In the 1980s, stationed in Germany, I got to shoot one with the holster/stock 3 round burst feature. The trigger and sights still sucked, but the burst capability made up for a multitude of sins. It was not just the progenitor of the polymer pistol, it was also arguably the original PDW (or at least the second in that lineage after the broom handle Mauser.)
It wasn't the first PDW, I think it was more designed to be a crank them out mass production, almost volkspistole mass distribution weapon in case shit hit the fan with the Soviets so arguably fit for purpose even if it is trash. It would probably be going to people who would be getting a " point this end at the bad guy " crash course and wouldn't know better anyway
I snagged one of these for $280 with no magazine and an extra $75 for a magazine a few years ago. The gun looked like someone carried it in a purse full of loose change so I had it cerakoated. The gunsmith took it upon himself to paint the "front sight post" black while the rest of the slide was OD green and it made a hell of a difference getting on target.
Blowback, plastic frame, striker fired, it was probably quite economical to produce, but in return it wasn't a very attractive pistol for the consumer.
Back in the late nineties my local gun shop had one hanging on the wall, I had become a bit of a regular customer so was allowed to handle it. That trigger reminded me of the trigger on those toy disk firing guns, only longer. If I recall, the price tag was somewhere near $1000. It was there for months.
That's exactly what I was thinking. I had one of those disk-firing toy guns as a kid. I remember the trigger was so long and stiff my 10 year-old fingers could barely manage it.
When I was in college we would have disk gun fights. Me being an engineering student modified mine with a better trigger and heavier spring. When the VP70 came out I thought it looked like my tracer disk gun until I handled it and tried the trigger. Then I was realized that my tracer disk gun had a better trigger. To this day it is the worse trigger I've ever pulled. Far worse than even a Hi-Point.
Leon showed up to work with this on his first day. I don't want to imagine the insults that would have been thrown at him by all the S.T.A.R.S. members. Leon Kennedy dodged a bullet by having Raccoon City get wiped out. He ditched that gun in the sequel, so at least he came to his senses.
"12-shot capacity 9mm polymer frame handgun. Non-standard issue gun with problems that make it impractical for the general public." Even Japanese game devs knew it was a PoS. Who knows how Leon got his hands on this thing
I worked in a gun shop back in the 80s during my youth. The VP70z, Uzi Pistol, Desert Eagle all came through. I asked one of the older/wiser gunsmiths about each; he replied “I’m not interested in crew served weapons.”
OMG! Sinistral is human after all! Shocking. Makes me feel a lot better about my struggles with that devilish target. Karl and Russell are two of the best practical shooters alive. If they can't beat a spinner with 18 rounds, it truly is a Dixie Waste dumpster gun, sci fi cool factor notwithstanding.
And zombies. It was used to fight zombies as well in resident evil 2. Also if I remember right the other 9mm you get in the game, a Hi-Power, did a bit more damage than the VP70 so maybe the game designers knew about the lower power you get out of the pistol.
I highly doubt it, it was probably to balance out the fact that the hi power only held a 13 round magazine but that is an interesting thing to think about
Finally! After 40 years someone else has the same opinion of this European Hi-Point! I have never like this gun. The price they get for them is criminal. Thanks guys.
Even thou it had practically no competition capacity wise HK practically had to give them away in the end, dealers ended up dumping them for around $200 back in the day. With the shoulder stock and burst capability it was still not likeable.
@@CCW1911 you took the words right out of my mouth. The prices were so cheap but the gun was so ugly I never got one. Guess who has a used Hi-point? Lol
Haven't heard of them breaking like hipoint. Also this was made in 1970. A double stack 18 round capacity. Polymer frame, spring loaded striker. It was more of an experiment that some ideas caught on and some didn't. Miles ahead of its time in some ways. I'm more forgiving of people trying to innovate. Even if customer buying an reliable experimental product effectively.
Eh, I'd use this over a hi-point. 18 rounds, unkillable, and has better ergo Trigger is bad (though a lightened striker spring helps with this), and sights aren't designed for precision beyond short range, but these don't tend to crack in half like the hi-point
I carried one of the beauties for exactly one (1) day on patrol in the mid 80s. I, of course had to qualify with it first which meant a lot off practice. I amm soooooo glad I never had to use it during that shift. Went back to my trusty S&W 686 stainless 6" revolver the next day.
Remember this was made originally as a machine pistol, in the 70’s when the fear was the Soviets would roll through Europe. The thought was it could be mass-produced and given to the masses to fight against the invading Soviets.
Yes. It's a 18 round very safe "double action revolver" designed to be used by a kind of volksturm troop with almost no training, that is why it was called volks pistole. The gun is ok.
An interesting insight about the sights I never heard was from Jonathan Ferguson. Apparently, the "shadow ramp" system was designed such that you would use the shadow when using the gun as a pistol, but the entire ramp/front sight when using the stock to account for the different eye position. I have one, and yeah the trigger sucks. But it's more shootable than you'd think given the trigger and sights.
This is definitely speculation on my part, based entirely on shooting with/without the stock. We have some HK guys visiting that I plan to ask about it...
It was a step in the right direction for polymer pistols. Glock really appreciated the H&K VP70. Although the first plastic (stock) gun was made by Remington via the Nylon 66 (1959) and even earlier using Tenite by the Stevens 22 .410. Murica baby!
@@Devin_Stromgren and the sights. 2 color contrast easily seen 3 dot with fully adjustable rear and free optional ghost ring. it's a lot more than what most do at that price range. and not even Hi-Point triggers are that bad.
Awesome video! I gorilla glued a red Fiber optic rod into the front sight troth. 600+ Rounds later and it’s still there!Also put the Wolf spring to help with trigger pull. Made the 30lb trigger a 28lb trigger lol. RPD Rookie Officer Leon S. Kennedy could spin that thing! I use mine as a history / teaching tool for people that say they’re trigger sucks. “Don’t suck as bad as this!”
VP70 = VolksPistole 1970 (Folks Pistol) This thing was never intended to be a "good" gun. It was meant for cheaply arming the German people in the face of a Russian invasion. It had an attachable buttstock to use as a carbine for that purpose.
Neon orange on the front sight, and soften the firing pin spring for an inch at one end. Allows the take-up on the trigger to be much more tolerable while still giving the firing pin enough inertia to pop the primer. Have been shooting one since 1986.
"Trigger like a staple gun" is exactly how I describe the trigger on my Volunteer enterprise commando mark 3 Tommy gun clone. "Worst trigger ever". But it's so fun to mess around with. 😂🤣😂
(Silver Sharpie to the front sights) Russell: It’s better. Me: well, it couldn’t be any worse. I must say I keep a bottle of fluoro orange nail polish in my range box just for this very purpose. My Browning BLR has a front post with a round ‘dot’ on the top. VERY low visibility in poor light conditions, but a ‘bead’ of orange shows up beautifully.
+Got one NIB with 2 extra mags, back in the 90's. The original trigger pull was 17+ lbs. Even with the Wolf trigger spring kit, it was over 14. I really wanted to like it, because of the excellent function and accuracy. Even with that funky sight. But just couldn't get past the crappy trigger. If only H & K had sold it in the states with a 6 lb trigger, it would have been a winner.
There are after market springs to reduce the trigger pull, and the team is correct that you have a long pull back on the trigger. The sights take some training. The original weapon had a cold war purpose to arm partisans ( the name VolksPistole is a give away). The design was for a sub gun with three round bursts. The semi is a spin off. I like mine.
The gun club I belonged to in Burnaby, BC, Canada, back in the late 1980s had one of those for rent, so I had to try it. The one my club rented, was an "army green" colour, and higher mag cap than any other 9mm handgun I had ever shot (which was Canadian Army High Power, S&W Model 39, and a luger) at that time (I've shot many, many more 9mm pistols since then). Being an indoor range, I don't remember how bad the sights were, but I do remember that POS trigger! Also, I found the balance bloody bizarrely top heavy.
As an 80’s kid, and a huge fan of Aliens, the cool factor is enough for me to like it. I’m happy plinking with my airsoft replica. And it looks like they have similar ballistics.
HK had an interesting idea at the time, with making a super fast shooting stabilized automatic pistol made primarily from polymer. Unfortunately that doesn't mean it's a good gun, especially without the stock. Still see these for a grand at gun shows and have a perverse temptation about it just because of it being a historical oddity.
The sharpie pen is a clever expedient solution to silly sights. But yeah, it's always been clear why the Glock caught on and this thing didn't, it's a cool collectible, that's its value.
Huge props to Russell for giving a second try. And I knew that he was eager to try in a condition of modifying the sights or getting extra mag. Good job. :)
It kind of looks like the German version of the Hi-Point. Small bit of trivia. This is the gun that Leon Kennedy's (Resident Evil Series) gun was based on. It was called "The Matilda" in the game.
In the original Resident Evil 2 from 1998 they actually called it the Hk vp70 but in the remake it was the Matilda. I believe the first 3 games used real gun names but after that they were made up names based on real guns. Probably didn’t want to pay for the licensing to use them.
Looking at Karl shooting in from 10 yards I could swear that at one point it seemed like the spinner was SLOWING down with every projectile hitting it.
I remember when those first became available...and I gave it a hard pass for all of the reasons you guys experienced. But...having one (or similar with terrible trigger) in the safe is good for training, because lots of people can shoot an excellent pistol well....but the real measure is how well you shoot the worst guns.
Karl is a real trooper when it comes to testing out these crappy designs and failed firearms. He’s like the guy who talks with the fat chick so you can move in on pretty one at the bar. I salute you sir.
The original Hi-Point. Made cheap for mass production. Allows gas flow around the bullet to reduce recoil. Effectively makes it a .380 Auto. I'd love to own one so I could put it on my sci-fi prop wall and keep it away from my usable firearms.
I wonder what the Raccoon City PD would have said if they ever got to see their new rookie officer turned up with a VP70. Leon S Kennedy probably asked "what pistol should i get" "Oh doesn't matter, just get a double-stack polymer framed 9mm and you can't go wrong" Then again, in RE4 I'm pretty sure he used a Ruger P89 and a Mauser Broomhandle. He is truly the hipster of pistols.
I was wondering if this was a 380. Glad you mentioned that oddity of the chamber. Also, I've done the front sight nub of my P3AT with bright orange nail polish so it is actually visible like a bead sight.
This is also the gun Leon Kennedy uses in Resident Evil 2, but it makes sense as he's a new hire police officer during a zombie outbreak, I like to imagine he got issued whatever was laying around the store room lol
Enormous price!!! It had an enormous price when it came out and probably still commands an enormous price because it is HK! Doesn’t matter how it shoots!
Russel hated this so much, he almost broke character and smiled
Who is Russel?
@@pripjatyfighter3786 russel these nuts
Crazy to think you can literally imbue a weapon with +5 accuracy just by hitting it with a silver Sharpie
Orange-red nail polish is the old school preferred buff
Looking up it's spec the sights are supposed to be polished sights. So basically they put it back with the pen to factory.
A very Orky solution, but if it works...
Its gonna be the new attachment option in the lastest gen of realistic mil sim shooters
@@Mario_bland Yeah, but it consumes the Sharpie upon crafting.
Ah yes, Leon's handgun during his first day in the RPD.
That's it's only claim to fame
I've alwayse been curious about the backstory on that
@@gideonschlen4022 you dishonor the USCM that died at Hadley's Hope
Thought it looked familiar
VP-70 and tank controls, that's true horror
In the 1980s, stationed in Germany, I got to shoot one with the holster/stock 3 round burst feature. The trigger and sights still sucked, but the burst capability made up for a multitude of sins. It was not just the progenitor of the polymer pistol, it was also arguably the original PDW (or at least the second in that lineage after the broom handle Mauser.)
Arguably, the M1/M2 Carbine was a PDW in terms of service use.
It wasn't the first PDW, I think it was more designed to be a crank them out mass production, almost volkspistole mass distribution weapon in case shit hit the fan with the Soviets so arguably fit for purpose even if it is trash. It would probably be going to people who would be getting a " point this end at the bad guy " crash course and wouldn't know better anyway
Nope not the first or second even third PDW ever
There's also the Stechkin machine pistol, pretty much fulfilled a similar role 20 years earlier.
Beretta 93R
"Look at that Hi-Point trash"
Dude, it's an HK.
"Man, that thing is so cool!" 😂
It really is like that.
That's the first thing I thought when I saw the thumbnail too.
I snagged one of these for $280 with no magazine and an extra $75 for a magazine a few years ago. The gun looked like someone carried it in a purse full of loose change so I had it cerakoated. The gunsmith took it upon himself to paint the "front sight post" black while the rest of the slide was OD green and it made a hell of a difference getting on target.
Any interest in selling it?
@@kylewhite8434 uh no lol. No sell, only buy
@@baronobeefdipyes5181 that's the spirit
HK's engineers were asked to find ways to decrease production cost, out of spite this was their response....
malicious compliance at its finest.
@@ChoChan776, I will not comply... ok, fine... I will, but you won't like it.
I don’t know if this is a joke or not but if that’s true it’s hilarious.
Blowback, plastic frame, striker fired, it was probably quite economical to produce, but in return it wasn't a very attractive pistol for the consumer.
tbh I think the VP70 is just an off product of the VP70M which is a burst fire pistol with a plastic stock
Back in the late nineties my local gun shop had one hanging on the wall, I had become a bit of a regular customer so was allowed to handle it. That trigger reminded me of the trigger on those toy disk firing guns, only longer. If I recall, the price tag was somewhere near $1000. It was there for months.
That's exactly what I was thinking. I had one of those disk-firing toy guns as a kid. I remember the trigger was so long and stiff my 10 year-old fingers could barely manage it.
Gosh, the VP70 my buddy had in his shop on 1994/5 was around $400 with no takers for a good year and a half🤣🤣
The trigger is basically another safety.
Kendo’s gun shop?
When I was in college we would have disk gun fights. Me being an engineering student modified mine with a better trigger and heavier spring. When the VP70 came out I thought it looked like my tracer disk gun until I handled it and tried the trigger. Then I was realized that my tracer disk gun had a better trigger. To this day it is the worse trigger I've ever pulled. Far worse than even a Hi-Point.
Hey man, sometimes in the midst of a zombie apocalypse you don't have an option on what you can find to defend yourself with...
pretty sure swinging a blunt object would be less tiring than pulling that trigger.
Leon showed up to work with this on his first day. I don't want to imagine the insults that would have been thrown at him by all the S.T.A.R.S. members. Leon Kennedy dodged a bullet by having Raccoon City get wiped out. He ditched that gun in the sequel, so at least he came to his senses.
@@SuperSunnyB210 isn't the one in RE6 based on the VP70?
@@Joshua_N-A never played it
@@SuperSunnyB210 Since they were gifting him attachments for it, I think they were okay with it.
That's why you had to wait for reticle to shrink for extra damage.
Accuraci*
@@joe125ful you have to play RE2remake to understand.
@@EcchiRevenge I play most of those games i say acuuraci....same thing in Silent Hill 1 you just need wait to aim better.
@@joe125ful RE2remake is a straight damage boost.
@@EcchiRevenge That not make sense...
"12-shot capacity 9mm polymer frame handgun. Non-standard issue gun with problems that make it impractical for the general public."
Even Japanese game devs knew it was a PoS. Who knows how Leon got his hands on this thing
Probably a present. Leon is a nice guy and probably kept his mouth shut.
@@SaraphDarklaw that actually is the lore; iirc Leon got it as a graduation gift from his dad and uncle when he completed police training
@@noraye2500 yeah he stopped using it because he didn’t want to wear and tear into it. I would imagine he most likely framed it.
@@noraye2500 I can imagine Leon looking at the pistol in disgust and forcing a fake smile as his Uncle and Dad handed it to him.
.380ACP ballistics, sights worse than a Ring of Fire pistol, and a staple gun trigger...
I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you.
Yeah, but it can fire 3rd burst faster than pretty much any other handgun.
Plus it was used to kill zombies.
@@Isenlyn yea but the accuracy in 3 burst is almost useless.
@@darrengarcia4937 yup ^^
I worked in a gun shop back in the 80s during my youth.
The VP70z, Uzi Pistol, Desert Eagle all came through. I asked one of the older/wiser gunsmiths about each; he replied “I’m not interested in crew served weapons.”
OMG! Sinistral is human after all! Shocking. Makes me feel a lot better about my struggles with that devilish target. Karl and Russell are two of the best practical shooters alive. If they can't beat a spinner with 18 rounds, it truly is a Dixie Waste dumpster gun, sci fi cool factor notwithstanding.
Maybe he just have bad day...you know Monday can affect your shooting accuraci a lot!
Auspex enhancement required for success
@@SinistralRifleman My go to for a crappy front iron sight is fluorescent yellow model paint or nail polish. Helps my 50-+ eyes considerably.
I remember when he was
@@theshocker4626 I remember when your mom was too
"French Inspired BUOUL SCHIET"
ahh once again the French tally another scar within Kaiser Karl's death-note
Well he has to counter point Iain's love of french firearms
And zombies. It was used to fight zombies as well in resident evil 2.
Also if I remember right the other 9mm you get in the game, a Hi-Power, did a bit more damage than the VP70 so maybe the game designers knew about the lower power you get out of the pistol.
I highly doubt it, it was probably to balance out the fact that the hi power only held a 13 round magazine but that is an interesting thing to think about
@@largestloads Yeah most likely it was a balance thing. But neat how it kinda worked out with the guns actual performance.
Samurai Edge... Beretta M9ish
@@jbloun911 Barry's custom Beretta 96 .40 cal with/ extended mag ,rail and compensator is cooler.
Finally! After 40 years someone else has the same opinion of this European Hi-Point! I have never like this gun. The price they get for them is criminal. Thanks guys.
Even thou it had practically no competition capacity wise HK practically had to give them away in the end, dealers ended up dumping them for around $200 back in the day. With the shoulder stock and burst capability it was still not likeable.
Well was designed to be cheap mass production
@@CCW1911 you took the words right out of my mouth. The prices were so cheap but the gun was so ugly I never got one. Guess who has a used Hi-point? Lol
Haven't heard of them breaking like hipoint.
Also this was made in 1970. A double stack 18 round capacity. Polymer frame, spring loaded striker.
It was more of an experiment that some ideas caught on and some didn't. Miles ahead of its time in some ways.
I'm more forgiving of people trying to innovate. Even if customer buying an reliable experimental product effectively.
At least with the Hi-Point it's heavy enough to use as a bludgeon if you run out of bullets.
When HK makes a Hi-Point and somehow it's worse than a real one
Eh, I'd use this over a hi-point. 18 rounds, unkillable, and has better ergo
Trigger is bad (though a lightened striker spring helps with this), and sights aren't designed for precision beyond short range, but these don't tend to crack in half like the hi-point
HK is better at anything, even making trash pistol I guess 😁
Parts far better quality and reliability than a hi point
You need a stock, three round burst, extended mag & laser for this to be effective
Glad someone mentioned this.
There is version with this stuff but not legal one.
This is the comment I was looking for…
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I carried one of the beauties for exactly one (1) day on patrol in the mid 80s. I, of course had to qualify with it first which meant a lot off practice.
I amm soooooo glad I never had to use it during that shift.
Went back to my trusty S&W 686 stainless 6" revolver the next day.
VP70 is an example of how even the best of the best can fail and do so spectacularly.
Remember this was made originally as a machine pistol, in the 70’s when the fear was the Soviets would roll through Europe. The thought was it could be mass-produced and given to the masses to fight against the invading Soviets.
Like some sort of modern liberator pistol
@@Lucidius134 lol, imagine if the US dropped these instead of the liberator
Yes. It's a 18 round very safe "double action revolver" designed to be used by a kind of volksturm troop with almost no training, that is why it was called volks pistole. The gun is ok.
An interesting insight about the sights I never heard was from Jonathan Ferguson. Apparently, the "shadow ramp" system was designed such that you would use the shadow when using the gun as a pistol, but the entire ramp/front sight when using the stock to account for the different eye position.
I have one, and yeah the trigger sucks. But it's more shootable than you'd think given the trigger and sights.
Interesting insight.
'More shootable than you'd think given the trigger and sights' - straight from the contemporary H&K ad copy!
This is definitely speculation on my part, based entirely on shooting with/without the stock. We have some HK guys visiting that I plan to ask about it...
@@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouriesYou ever get an answer?
Leon should have gone with the Browning Hi-Power and put this in his glove compartment instead.
Yes, may as well go with the nicer gun with a terrible but shorter trigger pull.
This just confirms that High Peezy needs to make a double stack double feed. It would surely fit.
Honestly the sights on them aren't that bad they are just bricks
It was a step in the right direction for polymer pistols. Glock really appreciated the H&K VP70. Although the first plastic (stock) gun was made by Remington via the Nylon 66 (1959) and even earlier using Tenite by the Stevens 22 .410. Murica baby!
Literally a last ditch German gun made in peace time.
Now use a Zip-22!
Pls try!:)
The silver sharpie helped sinistral channel the spirt of Leon Kennedy.
This weapon also saw action in the mean streets of Raccoon city back in 1998!
Given that these are direct blowback, I really wish Hi-Point would give their Yeet Cannon an Aliens makeover.
I would argue the Hi-Point is an objectively better gun, if only because of the price.
@@Devin_Stromgren and the sights. 2 color contrast easily seen 3 dot with fully adjustable rear and free optional ghost ring. it's a lot more than what most do at that price range. and not even Hi-Point triggers are that bad.
I actually appreciate Fagan when he's frustrated disappointed, he actually has a shift in tone when speaking!
Imagine having to fend off zombies with this POS lol, sorry Leon.
I massively underestimated how bad this gun is lol
Awesome video! I gorilla glued a red Fiber optic rod into the front sight troth. 600+ Rounds later and it’s still there!Also put the Wolf spring to help with trigger pull. Made the 30lb trigger a 28lb trigger lol. RPD Rookie Officer Leon S. Kennedy could spin that thing! I use mine as a history / teaching tool for people that say they’re trigger sucks. “Don’t suck as bad as this!”
Take it to a gun show, casually stroll by an unsuspecting vendors table and surreptitiously slide it in amongst his wares. Walk away whistling.
VP70 = VolksPistole 1970 (Folks Pistol) This thing was never intended to be a "good" gun. It was meant for cheaply arming the German people in the face of a Russian invasion. It had an attachable buttstock to use as a carbine for that purpose.
Neon orange on the front sight, and soften the firing pin spring for an inch at one end. Allows the take-up on the trigger to be much more tolerable while still giving the firing pin enough inertia to pop the primer. Have been shooting one since 1986.
Sinistral Rifleman shooting the VP70:
I can't see the sights!
Me shooting the VP70 (in RE2):
I can't see the sights!
"Trigger like a staple gun" is exactly how I describe the trigger on my Volunteer enterprise commando mark 3 Tommy gun clone. "Worst trigger ever". But it's so fun to mess around with. 😂🤣😂
(Silver Sharpie to the front sights)
Russell: It’s better.
Me: well, it couldn’t be any worse.
I must say I keep a bottle of fluoro orange nail polish in my range box just for this very purpose. My Browning BLR has a front post with a round ‘dot’ on the top. VERY low visibility in poor light conditions, but a ‘bead’ of orange shows up beautifully.
Not one misfire, jam or misfeed...impressive.
Karl: these sights suck
Obi-wan: Use the force!
Russel: Let me try a silver sharpie 🤣
Hey, it's a double-stack HiPoint!
This explains why the zombies took so many headshots
I love that you also compare the trigger to a staple gun.
It'd be interesting to do a gunsmithing experiment to see how much of an improvement you could make to the VP70.
Karl: "French inspired bullshit"
Somewhere in Narnia: HON HON HON INTENSIFIES
+Got one NIB with 2 extra mags, back in the 90's. The original trigger pull was 17+ lbs. Even with the Wolf trigger spring kit, it was over 14.
I really wanted to like it, because of the excellent function and accuracy. Even with that funky sight. But just couldn't get past the crappy trigger. If only H & K had sold it in the states with a 6 lb trigger, it would have been a winner.
Picking one up for my brother . As others mentioned, very nostalgic and cool looking to those who grew up playing Resident evil 2 .
M41A Pulse rifle against the spinner, when?
What about flamethrower vs spinner????
Iam curious what happend:)
amazing how the best ironsights in games are unusable irl and otherwise
all aperture sights are the worst because games keep them in full focus
I knew in the first 10 seconds you would mention it’s use on xenomorphs lol! 👍
Silver Sharpie to the rescue! Who says you need skill and good trigger discipline. *:P*
If it can’t save Alex Murphy it can’t save your life
There are after market springs to reduce the trigger pull, and the team is correct that you have a long pull back on the trigger. The sights take some training. The original weapon had a cold war purpose to arm partisans ( the name VolksPistole is a give away). The design was for a sub gun with three round bursts. The semi is a spin off. I like mine.
Absolutely love the VP70
The gun club I belonged to in Burnaby, BC, Canada, back in the late 1980s had one of those for rent, so I had to try it. The one my club rented, was an "army green" colour, and higher mag cap than any other 9mm handgun I had ever shot (which was Canadian Army High Power, S&W Model 39, and a luger) at that time (I've shot many, many more 9mm pistols since then). Being an indoor range, I don't remember how bad the sights were, but I do remember that POS trigger! Also, I found the balance bloody bizarrely top heavy.
As an 80’s kid, and a huge fan of Aliens, the cool factor is enough for me to like it. I’m happy plinking with my airsoft replica. And it looks like they have similar ballistics.
Spin the spinner with multiple muzzle loaders lined up on a table.
After the video: Karl: hey, do you have that registered machine gun buttstock?
HK had an interesting idea at the time, with making a super fast shooting stabilized automatic pistol made primarily from polymer. Unfortunately that doesn't mean it's a good gun, especially without the stock. Still see these for a grand at gun shows and have a perverse temptation about it just because of it being a historical oddity.
How long is the waiting list for the KE Arms Enhanced VP70 custom front sight?
Pros: Cool burst fire
Cons: Everything else
The sharpie pen is a clever expedient solution to silly sights. But yeah, it's always been clear why the Glock caught on and this thing didn't, it's a cool collectible, that's its value.
Huge props to Russell for giving a second try. And I knew that he was eager to try in a condition of modifying the sights or getting extra mag. Good job. :)
It kind of looks like the German version of the Hi-Point. Small bit of trivia. This is the gun that Leon Kennedy's (Resident Evil Series) gun was based on. It was called "The Matilda" in the game.
In the original Resident Evil 2 from 1998 they actually called it the Hk vp70 but in the remake it was the Matilda. I believe the first 3 games used real gun names but after that they were made up names based on real guns. Probably didn’t want to pay for the licensing to use them.
H&K VP70. Manufactured by H&K, Germany. It uses 9mm parabellum rounds.
Yes, that's all correct. Curious as to your point? :)
*Looks like the love child of a High Point and a Remington R51 lol*
A lot of science fiction firearms were selected for looks and can’t outperform today’s mainstays and ‘highly recognizable’ firearms.
The HK VP70
Magazine Capacity: Nice
Aesthetic: very nice
Functionality: no
This is the gun used by Leon Kennedy in the Resident Evil 2 Remake. Leon calls it “Matilda”.
Sharpie enhances most historical firearms of course
Yes, the sights are French and they insist that you immediately surrender to your attacker.
Whatever the drawbacks, the H&K VP70 was the first polymer pistol in the world the austrian Glock was only made 10 years later
You should've greased the spinner.
Looking at Karl shooting in from 10 yards I could swear that at one point it seemed like the spinner was SLOWING down with every projectile hitting it.
The first half dozen shots on target, then only misses, oh my, those sights are... great...
I remember when those first became available...and I gave it a hard pass for all of the reasons you guys experienced. But...having one (or similar with terrible trigger) in the safe is good for training, because lots of people can shoot an excellent pistol well....but the real measure is how well you shoot the worst guns.
Interesting. What are your other training guns?
@@tamlandipper29 DA revolvers mostly with a few DAO auto's. Some have pulls around 12-14 lbs and are great exercise for the trigger finger.
Seems like a great training tool for trigger control and sight picture acquisition.
Karl is a real trooper when it comes to testing out these crappy designs and failed firearms. He’s like the guy who talks with the fat chick so you can move in on pretty one at the bar.
I salute you sir.
The original Hi-Point. Made cheap for mass production. Allows gas flow around the bullet to reduce recoil. Effectively makes it a .380 Auto. I'd love to own one so I could put it on my sci-fi prop wall and keep it away from my usable firearms.
Unbelievable how Leon made it out of Raccoon City with this thing
I wonder what the Raccoon City PD would have said if they ever got to see their new rookie officer turned up with a VP70. Leon S Kennedy probably asked "what pistol should i get" "Oh doesn't matter, just get a double-stack polymer framed 9mm and you can't go wrong"
Then again, in RE4 I'm pretty sure he used a Ruger P89 and a Mauser Broomhandle. He is truly the hipster of pistols.
No wonder the zombies in Raccoon City were so hard to kill
This is an excellent demo of why this gun never caught on.
The plastic not-so-fantastic. 😂
I was wondering if this was a 380. Glad you mentioned that oddity of the chamber.
Also, I've done the front sight nub of my P3AT with bright orange nail polish so it is actually visible like a bead sight.
those sights are rough for sure
Three round burst is where this pistol will shine with it’s stock attached. Awesome for killing zombies in Resident Evil
the trigger reminds me of the trigger on my 9" goose neck BBQ lighter... so does VP stand for " Value Pistol" or " Very Pathetic" ?
This is also the gun Leon Kennedy uses in Resident Evil 2, but it makes sense as he's a new hire police officer during a zombie outbreak, I like to imagine he got issued whatever was laying around the store room lol
If it's good enough for Lt. Gorman, it's good enough for me.
It's a poor carpenter who blames his...plastic spork.
The VP70 strikes me as a really good pistol to issue to other people rather than one to actually shoot.
Damn, watching you display the trigger pull really does give that Stapler Gun vibe.
Enormous price!!! It had an enormous price when it came out and probably still commands an enormous price because it is HK! Doesn’t matter how it shoots!
Own a pistol that will make you hate the spinner as much as Ian!
that trigger reminds me of one of those toy disc shooters.
That dry fire does sound exactly like my trusty old staple gun.