Moto America bringing us the king of the baggers changed everything for American motorbike road racing. I'm sure I can speak for alot of people that a couple years ago we really didn't pay much attention to motorcycle racing but KOTBs changed that. I've been to multiple races and currently waiting for my 2023 ftr 1200 carbon to be delivered all because of the hooligan racing.
Folks really think that the race bikes still weigh the same as a stock one, come on. You can get a stock ftr and do the bread and butter of exhaust, tail tidy, and a light battery and shed quite some weight. A little biased cause i have one, but seeing an American bike actually getting it and racing, bravo to them for trying to make the bike as good as it can be. Inspiring for people who have one or want one.
I saw the first Daytona race, did not get a super close look at the 890. But it seems like a superstock type of spec on the 890 versus a much more modified Indian with these front forks and brakes. The Indian is probably a lot more expensive. The 890 is a sportier road bike to begin with tho.
Extra weight is extra work at handling, braking, and Handling acceleration. Even the chassis fights you as not designed a race bike from ground up. Brave riders. Did you say no electronics on these bikes to race? That would really make it tough with the increased horsepower these race bikes must possess. Estimated horsepower? No wheelie control, no abs or TC with all that extra power!
I bought mine (a 2019) for E14.000 in Gelderland about 7 months ago.. never had any regrets.. I love it. Had it tuned on a dynamometer two months ago and it rides even better now. Keep on saving I should say. But yes, taxes on motorcycles (and cars) are way too high here in the Netherlands.
@@hymerr That sucks man.. and I forgot to mention that original OEM Indian parts are also more expensive than other brands. I recently wanted to switch my handlebar, because it's a bit too high (I have a protaper Rally handlebar). An original Indian handlebar was E250. I went for a Rizoma handlebar that has the same dimensions as the Indian handlebar, but is E150 cheaper. Great motorcycles those Indians, but they are indeed a bit overpriced. But all in all, I'm still happy as hell with my FTR.. big smile every time I go out riding.
I am in the u.s and found a 2022 carbon r, all I can say is I love mine, it's powerful, it likes to wheelie, it's fast enough and torque filled enough that I doubt you would get tired of it. Happy hunting!
I test rode a 2020 with 19" wheels .. A heavy bike lots of power I thought it was very stable .. for 2023 the HD Pan American is giving them some competition, As far as a lot of work to make it a race bike goes.. Look what you have to do to any Harley other than the Pan American ..to make it handle ..
I took a demo ride on the first Indian I've ever ridden. It was a Scout. Really didn't like it. Didn't have that much power. Vibration was terrible. Suspension was harsh. My middle aged back hurt after 20 minutes ride. Didn't like the sound that much for a Vtwin. I've been on cruisers before that I did like, within the cruiser ethos. This was not one of them. I was hoping it would be a lighter, more rippy, more agile cruiser than typical cruisers. Just wasn't.
Indian has single handily brought back interest in American racing
Hooligan Racing might be my favorite Moto series in the U.S.
Moto America bringing us the king of the baggers changed everything for American motorbike road racing. I'm sure I can speak for alot of people that a couple years ago we really didn't pay much attention to motorcycle racing but KOTBs changed that. I've been to multiple races and currently waiting for my 2023 ftr 1200 carbon to be delivered all because of the hooligan racing.
Folks really think that the race bikes still weigh the same as a stock one, come on. You can get a stock ftr and do the bread and butter of exhaust, tail tidy, and a light battery and shed quite some weight. A little biased cause i have one, but seeing an American bike actually getting it and racing, bravo to them for trying to make the bike as good as it can be. Inspiring for people who have one or want one.
Love the QUICKSHIFTER
Love my FTR with a full TOCE exhaust and retuned!!. A BEAST! I''d love to see HD get the new Sportster involved in this series.
I love my FTR but I wouldn’t put too much into those wins. The other bikes had to be heavily penalized with weight added.
Ikr the Duke 890 need a massive amount of extra weight to race...
I saw the first Daytona race, did not get a super close look at the 890. But it seems like a superstock type of spec on the 890 versus a much more modified Indian with these front forks and brakes. The Indian is probably a lot more expensive. The 890 is a sportier road bike to begin with tho.
@@Don8789 the duke needs almost 50 pounds of extra weight to race, that is a lot of weight....
I couldn't figure out why the 890 wasn't blowing them away. Thanks, this explains it.
This season they changed that. The weight restriction was removed and the 890 is down to what it should be. And they still got beat.
Extra weight is extra work at handling, braking, and Handling acceleration. Even the chassis fights you as not designed a race bike from ground up. Brave riders. Did you say no electronics on these bikes to race? That would really make it tough with the increased horsepower these race bikes must possess. Estimated horsepower? No wheelie control, no abs or TC with all that extra power!
Been lookin for a FTR1200S for 2 years, but in the Netherlands still to expansive.
Secondhand prices for a FTR1200S from 2020 start at €15.000.
I bought mine (a 2019) for E14.000 in Gelderland about 7 months ago.. never had any regrets.. I love it. Had it tuned on a dynamometer two months ago and it rides even better now. Keep on saving I should say. But yes, taxes on motorcycles (and cars) are way too high here in the Netherlands.
@@mauriesltry Sweden it's even more expensive. 😢
@@hymerr That sucks man.. and I forgot to mention that original OEM Indian parts are also more expensive than other brands. I recently wanted to switch my handlebar, because it's a bit too high (I have a protaper Rally handlebar). An original Indian handlebar was E250. I went for a Rizoma handlebar that has the same dimensions as the Indian handlebar, but is E150 cheaper. Great motorcycles those Indians, but they are indeed a bit overpriced. But all in all, I'm still happy as hell with my FTR.. big smile every time I go out riding.
I am in the u.s and found a 2022 carbon r, all I can say is I love mine, it's powerful, it likes to wheelie, it's fast enough and torque filled enough that I doubt you would get tired of it. Happy hunting!
Runchy twins are the best type!
I test rode a 2020 with 19" wheels .. A heavy bike lots of power I thought it was very stable .. for 2023 the HD Pan American is giving them some competition, As far as a lot of work to make it a race bike goes.. Look what you have to do to any Harley other than the Pan American ..to make it handle ..
The trail and rake looks horrifying
Man I’m hoping more of that race tec get backwards engineered into the street ftr’s
Are we going to get a review of the 6D helmet?
Love these monsters!
I took a demo ride on the first Indian I've ever ridden. It was a Scout.
Really didn't like it. Didn't have that much power. Vibration was terrible. Suspension was harsh. My middle aged back hurt after 20 minutes ride. Didn't like the sound that much for a Vtwin.
I've been on cruisers before that I did like, within the cruiser ethos. This was not one of them. I was hoping it would be a lighter, more rippy, more agile cruiser than typical cruisers. Just wasn't.
What kind of pipe
Where do I get a big ol chin fearing like that???
The Hooligan series could be really good if it was street triples, dukes, mt09s and the like all going at it instead of a series made for this bike.
There are Dukes, Ducati Monsters, Pan Americans, BMWs etc. it’s fantastic.
What he said 👆. The only restrictions is they have to be two cylinders, and can’t make more that 120hp in stock form
Badass, i want one 😂
I love the FTR, but imagine if they took the added weight off the Duke 890R or let the Superduke race.... not sure the FTR would be in the running
I want one so bad.
the lack of trail is the first thing I saw... lol. I want to rip that thing.
Sounds like Flat track on asphalt 2.0...😆😆
from this video I see different swingarm, subframe, triple trees, suspension, controls, exhaust… almost nothing in common with the production model
The same goes for pretty much every race bike ever built.
Ftr special offers and .
A 522 lbs lump stripped down to a "race bike"... In 2023... Oh, muricans, you silly little bunnies.
That’s kind of the point though isn’t it? Same with the baggers, it’s ridiculous but so damn fun.
Take a shot everytime he says bike