You can do this with just one logical switch. Set L01 to 'OR', argument 1 to SH down, argument 2 to L01, and argument 3 to SB down. With another line you can add a throttle check for fixed wing. On L02 use a
Thanks Pawel, I've been looking for a long time to find out how to do the double cocking on my Traschan which has no "prearm" mode. it works, it's perfect.
I couldn't get it to work at first because I had another arming with switch F in the mixing function. I edited that function to include the source L02 and it worked!
Outstanding! Motors have the worst habit of turning on at the worst moments! This is a great ARMing method. Have it on my model now. I wonder if it can be set in global variables to be used on all models? Thank you for the effort you took to share this knowledge!
And learned another thing today from your channel! Thank you Pawel! Friday, I'll release my first drone video series and I mention your channel, so my subscribers can come here to learn from you. Great tutorials!
Useful stuff. I just cut my finger yesterday. Luckily on a 3". Cut was still surprisingly deep, tho it has already almost healed a day after. My own fault though, I armed the quad while holding it in my hand and shaked it around to get droplets off the props after a crash. Would never do this on a bigger quad, but it has also already happened to me to accidentally arm a quad when leaning over while having the controller on my lap.
Thanks. In betaflight there is a prearm in the modes tab that I always use for my betaflight quads. I was disappointed that it wasn't in inav. I'm definitely going to set up my radio like this now!
Thank You for this video! I did it in betaflight (prearm) always, but it is much easier if You have many copters and copy the settings from one to other. :)
thanks for the tuto. I did it and it's little bit safer than only one switch, but this is not safer than the double arm on BF. Imagine you SB is down and by mistake you push the SH.. your quad is arm. On BF: if your SB is down and by mistake you push the SH.. nothing happens. you need to have the SB in the desarm position then push the SH to arm. Or maybe is miss something
Hi, Good explanation. But: Accident arming is not my problem, but accident disarming 😉... I will try to find a sufficiant logic switch position for me. Your video will help me. Thanks!
Hi Pawel thanks for your videos. Can you do this with two "normal" switches so that you ARM with both in one position and you DISARM by flicking ANY of the two? I sometimes hit the wrong switch when wanting to disarm (SE and SF on my TX16s) and this perhaps would solve the problem.
Great video. I always feel uneasy when first connecting lipo to quad, I know how quickly those props can spin and the forces involved. Is there a possibility the FC/esc can glitch and cut me up? think about this everytime I fly! Cheers
Agree. I never accidentially armed my quads. But I have disarmed far to many times while flying, once even destroying a GoPro session in a crash. Since then, I use 2 switches for both arm and disarm.
dual switch for arming is the same, but instead of creating the L02, you just the L01 and input that on channel 6. that's my knowledge after this video because I came to learn here :)
I was very excited to watch this video as I tried to set-up this 2 switch arming procedure both on my Taranis X9D and Jumper T16 Pro (nice radio BTW) per YT vids by J.B. and other YT RC gurus. They simply do not work. I follow the instructions to the letter which isn't hard to do. Everything checks out per the channel 'monitors' but when I 'arm' the quad she'll fly if I touch the throttle regardless whether I flip the 'momentary' switch (SH) or not. What am I missing?
Well after thinking about it I decided to set-up 'turtle mode' on my Meteor 65 and while playing around with that and thinking about the "Safer arming" process. It then dawned on me that one important element was consistently left out of these videos and that was to make sure the 2nd switch (eg: SH) is working in BETAFLIGHT. The "SH" switch MUST 'ARM' in Betaflight when 'SF' is in the position you deem as 'armed'. Don't just rely on your transmitter channel monitors. That might have been obvious to many out there but it wasn't for me. Anyway NOW it works beautifully. To be clear, I flip 'SF' towards me (nothing happens in Betaflight) and 'Arm' using 'SH'. The 'SH'activates 'Arming' in Betaflight. I flip 'SF' away from me and the quad disarms in Betaflight which is what we want. So once you set-up your transmitter you MUST complete the set-up in Betaflight or else you'll experience my problem). Hopefully my stupidity helped others. Thanks for your videos Pawel as I do learn from them and appreciate your presentations. I'm subscribed.
Maybe you need to change your mixer to take the arming channel directly from the physical switch to the logical switch. In this video that would be L01.
Excellent video and idea. I'm using SF two position switch. When you move your switch, you have bars on both side of the Ch5 monitor. I have only one side. Did I miss something?
Hi, I set up the radio as per your instructions. However, my understanding of the logic for the move is lacking. I don’t fly drones. I’m assuming this setup is for a controller. I fly fixed primarily fixed wing with elevons. I managed to set the radio up with functional arming as per your video. However, when sb is down and sh is triggered the motor runs at full throttle with the stick in the full down position. Can you help?
Well, I did this on my Jumper 16. Worked well. However, due to poor quality control, I had a Jumper rx fail. A week later the multi module failed. I recently purchased the RadioMaster. I set it up as per the video, but could not get it to work.the only difference from the Jumper16 is that switch SA is assigned to channel 5 instead of switch SB. Any help would be appreciated.
CZesc Pawel. Mam taki problem z TX16S- a wydajesz sie znac na rzeczy. Ustawialem po koleji kanaly dla swojego radia na rozne przelaczniki i doszedlem do punkty gdzie mam: Arming motors, changing flight modes, beeper, oraz turtle mode i air mode na roznych przelacznikach. Gdy chcialem dodac jeszcze na kanale 9-tym przelacznik SA jako pre-arm - pojedynczym ruchem do gory okazalo sie ze kanal juz sie nie odzywa. W monitoringu go nie ma.. Co zrobilem zle bo nie moge dojsc jak zrobic zeby ten kanal 9ty dzialal w ogole. Wszystko inne dziala mi fantastycznie. Poprzednie kanaly ustawilem w Betaflight ale zorientowalem sie ze tego 9-tego juz nie moge skonfigurowac tak jakby go nie bylo. A radio przeciez jest 16-ko kanalowe..? Moglbys mi odpisac o co moze chodzic? Co mam sprawidzic lub zmienic w TX16s menu zeby dodac ten kanal? Oraz mam taki jeszcze mankament ze przy wlaczaniu radia za kazdy razem mam ostrzezenie: "throtle warning" chociaz gimbal przepustnicy silnikow jest na samym dole i przlacznik uzbrojenia silnikow w trybie disarm.. O co moze chodzic..?
@@FPVUniversity juz sam rozkminilem. Co innego bylo. :D A te pokretla co sa na gorze lub suwaki po bokach idzie jakos skonfigurowac zeby to byly jakies trimmery do akcelerometra w takim dronie (jak w tych kupnych) zeby go nie sciagalo na jedna ze stron bo np bateria zle zalozona srodek ciezkosci zmienia - tak z menu transmitera, a nie programem? Bo do uzycia zewnentrzych progamow jeszcze nie doszedlem.
is this video consecuence of the little cut you have on your finger on the left hand? Quads bites... it an universal fact I have experience on myself to many times. Adios amigo!
You can do this with just one logical switch. Set L01 to 'OR', argument 1 to SH down, argument 2 to L01, and argument 3 to SB down. With another line you can add a throttle check for fixed wing. On L02 use a
Thank you for the explanation of what the values mean. I have finally setup dual arm switches!
OpenTX never ceases to amaze me. Thanks for the info, Pawel!!
Thanks Pawel,
I've been looking for a long time to find out how to do the double cocking on my Traschan which has no "prearm" mode.
it works, it's perfect.
I couldn't get it to work at first because I had another arming with switch F in the mixing function. I edited that function to include the source L02 and it worked!
Thanks. This helped me. I had the same issue.
Outstanding! Motors have the worst habit of turning on at the worst moments! This is a great ARMing method. Have it on my model now. I wonder if it can be set in global variables to be used on all models? Thank you for the effort you took to share this knowledge!
And learned another thing today from your channel! Thank you Pawel!
Friday, I'll release my first drone video series and I mention your channel, so my subscribers can come here to learn from you.
Great tutorials!
Olha quem é ele 😂😂
Porra. 7 meses depois fui dar contigo de novo :)
Useful stuff. I just cut my finger yesterday. Luckily on a 3". Cut was still surprisingly deep, tho it has already almost healed a day after.
My own fault though, I armed the quad while holding it in my hand and shaked it around to get droplets off the props after a crash.
Would never do this on a bigger quad, but it has also already happened to me to accidentally arm a quad when leaning over while having the controller on my lap.
Thanks. In betaflight there is a prearm in the modes tab that I always use for my betaflight quads. I was disappointed that it wasn't in inav. I'm definitely going to set up my radio like this now!
Thank You for this video! I did it in betaflight (prearm) always, but it is much easier if You have many copters and copy the settings from one to other. :)
Excellent vid Pawel! Thanks for getting this out to people as it needs to be stressed as a commonsense precaution! :)
thanks for the tuto. I did it and it's little bit safer than only one switch, but this is not safer than the double arm on BF. Imagine you SB is down and by mistake you push the SH.. your quad is arm. On BF: if your SB is down and by mistake you push the SH.. nothing happens. you need to have the SB in the desarm position then push the SH to arm. Or maybe is miss something
Awesome, Pawel! Thanks a lot! 😃
Great video,..a must for newbies like myself...👍🏿
Hi,
Good explanation. But:
Accident arming is not my problem, but accident disarming 😉...
I will try to find a sufficiant logic switch position for me.
Your video will help me.
Thanks!
Hi Pawel thanks for your videos. Can you do this with two "normal" switches so that you ARM with both in one position and you DISARM by flicking ANY of the two? I sometimes hit the wrong switch when wanting to disarm (SE and SF on my TX16s) and this perhaps would solve the problem.
Is this option if you do not have betaflight? Otherwise you would be using pre-arm mode in betaflight right?
i use prearm also. i like this for disarm.
thank buddy your video helped me a ton
Just what I was looking for, and found you, thanks Pawel..
Glad to help!
Great video. I always feel uneasy when first connecting lipo to quad, I know how quickly those props can spin and the forces involved. Is there a possibility the FC/esc can glitch and cut me up? think about this everytime I fly! Cheers
Always be prepared, just incase. Like, ALWAYS unplug the saw before you change the bade...
@@airflowfpv7791 under slung lipo not easy to be out of the way, got double arm switch if it glitches it will hopefully fly away not towards
Can be actually good to apply the same logic for disarm to avoid accidental disarms
yes, that too
Good idea! I accidentally disarmed my plane the other day. Luckily got it rearmed before crash!
Agree. I never accidentially armed my quads. But I have disarmed far to many times while flying, once even destroying a GoPro session in a crash. Since then, I use 2 switches for both arm and disarm.
@@FPVUniversity Should work adding a new logical condition L03 AND SB_UP SH_DOWN and use it on L02 instead of SB_UP, right?
@@oli_flies_quads Me too, my wing has now a different nose shape....shit happens
Finaly i found help. ❤️
Must have missed the crucial, attaching the logical switch to the throttle? Seems like the Mixer page should be involved? Cheers
nice!!
I also make dual switch for arming
dual switch for arming is the same, but instead of creating the L02, you just the L01 and input that on channel 6.
that's my knowledge after this video because I came to learn here :)
was the cut on the index finger an inspiration for this video?
no. Propellers cut deeper ;)
Thank you very much for the information 👍
my pleasure!
I was very excited to watch this video as I tried to set-up this 2 switch arming procedure both on my Taranis X9D and Jumper T16 Pro (nice radio BTW) per YT vids by J.B. and other YT RC gurus. They simply do not work. I follow the instructions to the letter which isn't hard to do. Everything checks out per the channel 'monitors' but when I 'arm' the quad she'll fly if I touch the throttle regardless whether I flip the 'momentary' switch (SH) or not. What am I missing?
Well after thinking about it I decided to set-up 'turtle mode' on my Meteor 65 and while playing around with that and thinking about the "Safer arming" process. It then dawned on me that one important element was consistently left out of these videos and that was to make sure the 2nd switch (eg: SH) is working in BETAFLIGHT. The "SH" switch MUST 'ARM' in Betaflight when 'SF' is in the position you deem as 'armed'. Don't just rely on your transmitter channel monitors. That might have been obvious to many out there but it wasn't for me. Anyway NOW it works beautifully.
To be clear, I flip 'SF' towards me (nothing happens in Betaflight) and 'Arm' using 'SH'. The 'SH'activates 'Arming' in Betaflight. I flip 'SF' away from me and the quad disarms in Betaflight which is what we want. So once you set-up your transmitter you MUST complete the set-up in Betaflight or else you'll experience my problem). Hopefully my stupidity helped others. Thanks for your videos Pawel as I do learn from them and appreciate your presentations. I'm subscribed.
Maybe you need to change your mixer to take the arming channel directly from the physical switch to the logical switch. In this video that would be L01.
That should read, change it from the physical switch to the logical switch.
Excellent video and idea. I'm using SF two position switch. When you move your switch, you have bars on both side of the Ch5 monitor. I have only one side. Did I miss something?
Maybe we have different versions of OpenTX
Hi,
I set up the radio as per your instructions. However, my understanding of the logic for the move is lacking.
I don’t fly drones. I’m assuming this setup is for a controller. I fly fixed primarily fixed wing with elevons.
I managed to set the radio up with functional arming as per your video. However, when sb is down and sh is triggered the motor runs at full throttle with the stick in the full down position.
Can you help?
Well, I did this on my Jumper 16. Worked well. However, due to poor quality control, I had a Jumper rx fail. A week later the multi module failed. I recently purchased the RadioMaster. I set it up as per the video, but could not get it to work.the only difference from the Jumper16 is that switch SA is assigned to channel 5 instead of switch SB. Any help would be appreciated.
Nice thanks. I've had a kwad arm while holding it and I almost shit my pants 😂
I want to know how to do this in reverse so I can disarm safely with sticky. It's for long range wing. I've accidentally disarmed in flight before
Thanks for sharing...subscribed!
Very useful info
i'll probably use this for my disarm, i've disarmed accidentally a few times.
Can your setup procedure also work on the TX16S from RadioMaster?
Yes, it does!
CZesc Pawel. Mam taki problem z TX16S- a wydajesz sie znac na rzeczy. Ustawialem po koleji kanaly dla swojego radia na rozne przelaczniki i doszedlem do punkty gdzie mam: Arming motors, changing flight modes, beeper, oraz turtle mode i air mode na roznych przelacznikach. Gdy chcialem dodac jeszcze na kanale 9-tym przelacznik SA jako pre-arm - pojedynczym ruchem do gory okazalo sie ze kanal juz sie nie odzywa. W monitoringu go nie ma.. Co zrobilem zle bo nie moge dojsc jak zrobic zeby ten kanal 9ty dzialal w ogole. Wszystko inne dziala mi fantastycznie. Poprzednie kanaly ustawilem w Betaflight ale zorientowalem sie ze tego 9-tego juz nie moge skonfigurowac tak jakby go nie bylo. A radio przeciez jest 16-ko kanalowe..? Moglbys mi odpisac o co moze chodzic? Co mam sprawidzic lub zmienic w TX16s menu zeby dodac ten kanal? Oraz mam taki jeszcze mankament ze przy wlaczaniu radia za kazdy razem mam ostrzezenie: "throtle warning" chociaz gimbal przepustnicy silnikow jest na samym dole i przlacznik uzbrojenia silnikow w trybie disarm.. O co moze chodzic..?
masz pewnie ustawiony tryb 8 kanałów D8 w multiprotocol
@@FPVUniversity juz sam rozkminilem. Co innego bylo. :D A te pokretla co sa na gorze lub suwaki po bokach idzie jakos skonfigurowac zeby to byly jakies trimmery do akcelerometra w takim dronie (jak w tych kupnych) zeby go nie sciagalo na jedna ze stron bo np bateria zle zalozona srodek ciezkosci zmienia - tak z menu transmitera, a nie programem? Bo do uzycia zewnentrzych progamow jeszcze nie doszedlem.
is this video consecuence of the little cut you have on your finger on the left hand? Quads bites... it an universal fact I have experience on myself to many times. Adios amigo!
that one was from a drilling bit I think... or a knife? No idea...
I prefer arming with a knob
Auto subtitles.. Hi i'm pato szpakowski... :)) last time it was "hospital ski" :))
YT is very creative on that. One day I will make a video with the best ones :)
I use a single switch. Chicks dig that I'm dangerous.
:-))
It would be much safer to use triple, or quadruple arming. There is no security against stupidity.