Here's What Liquid Metal Did To A PS4 Pro After 3 Years
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Just over three years ago I changed out the thermal compound inside the PS4 Pro for liquid metal, which is what Sony used for the PS5. Today I wanted to open it back up and see how the liquid metal is holding up years later.
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To clean "dried out" LM you apply a fresh drop of LM and that will liquify it again. Allowing you to remove it easily with cotton, If you use Alcohol it makes a reaction and the LM goes black.
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But LM shouldn't really dry out if the metals/surfaces are designed to it (inert) - right?
YOU SOUND LIKE THE DIRECTOR OF TERMINATOR 2 THE BEST TERMINATOR MOVIE LOL
@@tkermi That's correct.
I was here when you originally made the video putting LM in this. I'm pretty sure the copper reacted with the LM, it looks corroded and also like it caused a small reaction and started to fuse the metals. I wouldn't use LM in anything not designed for it, alot of people got excited to start changing their existing TIM when Sony started using LM. LM is not designed for the average user in anyway, and I knew when Sony started using it it would start some ridiculous craze where people ruin their tech. Here we are, luckily he caught this before it got worse...Big mistake and anyone that said they were doing it I would make sure to expressly state it is...
NOT RECOMMENDED.
Bro, just because you say it's bad doesn't mean it is. Recommended, no. But if you watched that video and decided to go the same route your not just some novice at taking things apart. I did it on my ps4 pro and it works just fine. I coated the outside of the apu with clear nail polish just in case there was any leakage. Look, I get that there's a chance you can mess it up, but if done correctly it can have a great effect at keeping the chip cool.
@@gamedad7336 He didn't say it was bad. Just that too many idiots were doing it without a second though and without considering the long term implications of using it on materials not expressly designed for LM application.
@@gamedad7336 Gallium diffuses into copper like it's a sponge. That copper layer on the heatsink is super thin, so once it slips through it starts attacking the heatsink itself.
Imagine all PS5s would be broken after 3 years because the liquid metal would dry up and they would overheat. That would be terrible for Sony.
Quick tip to avoid stripping threads: Screw in REVERSE while applying light pressure until you feel the threads "click", then screw FORWARDS and your threads will be perfectly aligned.
I use this for everything, even drink bottle lids lol.
People think I’m crazy doing that but it works perfect
This is genius
Also always use the screw that came from that hole. Even if its 10 identical screws. Put the same ones back from where they came from. But yeah, slightly backwards till you hear, feel it getting into its original thread and then put it in. Also always put in your screws in an X fashion. Don't start going round. Put one in top left, then bottom right. Top right, bottom left and so on. Tighten them a bit but not fully. Then go in the same X, alternation pattern again when tighening them down propperly secure. This goes from putting screws in a playstation to bolts when changing a wheel on your car.
I know for a fact drinking bottles help. You discover this pro tip lol. Lines up every time..
I've been doing this without really knowing I was doing it lol
As a materials scientist, I would like everyone to understand that the liquid metal did not "dry out" in the usual sense. It reacted with the metal of the heat sink (primarily, from the look of it. The surface of the chip looks basically ok) and what you see on the chip is a residual solid metal of a new composition. It will not be possible to remove the reacted material from the heat sink, as this is incorporated into the heat sink and is in fact an alloy of the heat sink metal and the liquid metal. It may still be possible to use another type of thermal paste to bridge the air gap. This should not be a problem with the PS5 system as it was designed with compatible materials or coatings to enable the use of a liquid metal for thermal contact.
One concern would be that as this reaction takes place the thermal contact should/could have been greatly reduced. It is a good thing that this PS4 wasn't used that much.
Silly question then - so I should not panic that my de-lidded Intel processor may be “dried out” underneath the IHS?
I’ve always heard that liquid metal was a bad idea to use on copper. Perhaps this is why.
@@FasuloA Most quality heatsinks are nickel plated, and that should protect the copper from reacting (alloying) with the liquid metal.
If you had just a bare copper heatsink, I'd suggest investing in a better quality heatsink, after all what's the point of using a cheap heatsink with liquid metal?
So can liquid metal be used then? Would a second application work since the reaction has already taken place?
Could one nickel plate the copper? Electroplating isn't that complicated
@@infopackrat In theory yes, you could plate the copper, but just buying one already nickel plated is way easier (and probably cheaper).
A second application will probably last longer, but you can tell that the reacted layer is not fully protective, the gallium in the compound will slowly diffuse into the copper and react with it over time.
I bought a used PS4 about 4 years ago and the prices are roughly the same or even more in some cases.
I thought about getting a PS4 Pro when I had my PS4 slim. I'm glad that I never got the PS4 Pro in the end and was happy to wait until I was able to get a PS5 late last year. It's great being able to access the PS4 Pro versions of the PS4 games that I own and the difference in picture quality between between what I can see whilst playing games on my PS4 compared to the PS4 slim I used to own is night and day. The boosted framerates for certain titles is also an added bonus.
ps4 pro is miles ahead of the slim
@@ThaexakaMavro I can imagine. I have a PS5 now so at least I get to access all the features that the PS4 Pro versions of the games had that I couldn't experience on the PS4 slim that I owned and I can also get to play PS5 games too.
I still have my slim going on for 5 years now and don't have any intention of upgrading to a pro. It's just not worth it for me. I mostly have all my PS4 library on PC for that added resolution and FPS boost.
@@TheOne0816 of course there's no reason anymore to buy a ps4 pro just get a ps5 lol
@@ThaexakaMavro Not worth it to me neither for the time being.
I feel like they made cooling or fan improvements over time, as my late generation PS4 Pro is remarkably quiet. Certainly not the jet engine I've often heard talked about (like my original model base PS4 with certain games, heh).
Your PS4 may be simply too new for the fan to be blocked by dust as of yet. This is the issue why other PS4 Pro's are soo loud. Once cleaned of the dust and they're back to whisper quit
@@Dr_Won_Hung_Lo They did improve the noise in the later PS4 pros. I remember picking up the RDR2 bundle specifically for that reason after a Digital Foundry video about it.
Red Dead Online is terrible on a standard PS4. I have the later model Pro and replaced thermal paste and quiet. Not silent but way quieter.
@@guitarboyjeff I run it on my PS5 now and it runs and looks GREAT!
Gamers often exaggerate about the noise of the PS4 pro
I remember when you put liquid metal in this thing! Can't wait to see how it turned out. I actually didn't think there'd be a follow up video lol
Liquid metal is pretty fascinating I'll admit that. Going on about the SSD though, I've had a 2TB SSD inside of my PS4 Pro for about three years now, and I could never go back to a mechanical hard drive that's sluggish. Samsung SSDs are definitely worth the money if you have it.
@@jonathansoko1085 I'm not a kid first of all I'm 22 and you can take that toxicity out of the comments thank you very much.
Put in an old 500gb ssd I had lying around and it was like night and day! Was gona play around with the jailbreak but ended up selling it for close to msrp!
Same I originally installed mine because people said it ran black desert better but never got around to playing it
@Cerus98 22 is a grown adult, dafuq you talking about.
@Cerus98 So their a kid because they talked about the diffrence an ssd makes on a console they use? I mean if playing on a ps4 is their console of choice then so be it don’t try to justify your pointless claim😭
One of the things I did to cool my ps4 pro was made a custom vent on the area where the fan is(similar to what xbox did with the xbox one and xbox one s) and it did help cool it down by 10+ degrees
Did you check actual temps via cfw? Console cases are typically designed to have a specific airflow pattern, drilling holes changes airflow characteristics. By modifying the air intake some components will run hotter while others run cooler…
Next time try putting twisted metal in it 😈
It dry out because of chemical reaction on copper, if you using heatsink that made of a nickel plated it will not dry anymore, thats why PS5 use liquid metal because its buid in nickel plated heatsink... If you use liquid metal on aluminium heatsink it will eat all the entire heatsink!
I recently did a full clean and repasting of my launch ps4, I replaced the thermal pads too. It went from sounding like a jet engine on almost every game to being quieter than my gaming laptop under load. I couldn't believe it. Performance didn't seem to change much but at least it isn't struggling to expell heat anymore.
What did you use bro
@@jormungandr8821 some leftover noctua thermal paste from a recent pc build and thermal grizzly minus pad 8.
I took the top cover off my ps4 pro and now the fan never revs up. Ive been contemplating drilling fan holes through the cover or cutting a square over the fan and attatching a vent.
So my question is, when the liquid metal is dried, would it not dry in a configuration that allows good heat transfer? Or once it’s dry it loses its efficiency?
Also I just sold my PS4 (launch day) for $325 with a few old games which boggles my mind.
Wow. It’s amazing that you were able to get it for roughly $75 less than originally paid for not including the price of the few games
the only reason that liquid metal dry was because they never use that ps4.
You gonna get a 5?
@@Joelda23 This is not true, I put it on my PC which I used almost everyday. When I took it apart it looked the same as here.
@@raj1n501 already have a 5
So in revisiting this PS4 mod, it became an experiment on the effects of Liquid Metal over time. As you stated, it went well for this instance, but potentially could have been worse.
If the entire heat sink was aluminum it definitely would've been a lot worse lol
It's kind of crazy how even a basic PS4 is still going for at least $200 and up on the secondhand market.
How is that crazy to you? The same thing happened with the PS4/PS3, Xbox one/Xbox 360
Yeah I hear you mate. PS3s were dirt cheap around 2017. PS3s were going for between £60 (fat) - £100 (boxed slim units) in the UK (CeX).
PS4s are going for £190 slim to £300 Pro - it's much more expensive on the second hand market (CeX)
They go for $70-$120 where I am.
The ps4 is still valuable because it’s hard for people to get the next gen consoles and there are still a lot of cross gen games that are coming out currently. So many games have been delayed that games that started development with the ps4/Xbox one in mind are coming out this year, and they’re gonna be on the old and new consoles. It might not be as good on the ps4, but if you want to play some of these games this is probably the easiest way right now. A lot of people are deciding to pick up a ps4 instead of getting a ps5 so the value has held up really well.
From my experience, copper seems to fuse , plated with liquidmetal . It's impossible to remove liquidmetal stain on copper using acetone or alcohol. When I googled about it I found out it is not so good idea to apply liquid metal(Gallium based) on bare aluminum or copper. It seems Copper heatsink would need to be coated with another metal (like nickel)
There is one USB port at the back of PS4 Pro which you can use without USB extender
Copper is strong, but it reacts with aluminum and can deteriorate the other metal. I'm not sure what liquid metal is made of, but maybe try something with neverseize
Its usually gallium with a bit of indium and tin added based on the manufactures specifications for longevity, viscosity, etc. it eats through aluminum. Copper is completely safe with it, but it will stain copper over time. So thats what you see on the heatsink, staining, but it doesn’t affect the thermal performance. It will completely eat away aluminum and destroy it though.
gallium
Liquid metal combines with copper, it didn't dry it became one with the copper and the solid copper became one with the liquid.
This got me thinking... What does this mean for future conservation of the PS5 consoles? Wouldn't it be safe to say that say 5+ years down the line the liquid metal would be insufficient for cooling due to crusting over, so without replacing it properly wouldn't pretty much all ps5's have a sort of death sentence almost like the CMOS issue? Because simply put not everyone will be able to replace their liquid metal. Thank you. Happy new years!
just keep your ps4pro it will outlive the first ps5s, and wait until sony release their second revision of ps5 before you buy.
Liquid metal works better, but often degrades faster. It does indeed mean there is a risk of overheating causing a degradation in performance and failure in a few years. Can't really comment on the risks involved though so it may be a non issue.
Well the drying likely die to people using liquid metal in setups not intended for it. The PS5 was designed for liquid metal so it will likely be setup in such a way to prevent or reduce drying
the main thing i expected from this video was benchmarking, 4 year old liquid metal temps vs stock or fresh regular thermal paste. video is what it is but I don't think that I was the only one anticipating those things.
I went upgrade to a SSD on my Pro... I haved upgraded the drive on my old PS3, they are Worlds! GTA loads in 1/3 of the Time. So much smother in the XMB. And faster startup from Applications. (not more frames per second!) And these both Consoles are not SSD optimized. SSD is better as an HDD
Spend the Money, is it me worth.
6:47 do you know what Else dry's out ,, Thermal Past .. lol
the Liquid metal is Still doing its job ( unlike a Dried Thermal Past Thats not Going to be As Good as new Paste)
and it Dried out cuz its on copper, if it was nickle Plate to Nickle Plate, it Wouldnt of Dried like this
Never EVER would use liquid metal in PC, console or anything else, COMPLETELY unrequired.
You really need to clean this console, look to him in this video make me cry!!! careful bro, so many people would like to have one of this and you just dont care about...
Great video Jon, I may find purpose for my pro again since I do not intend to fight for a ps5 as things stand currently! An SSD will be fun to install and feel a decent enough difference
Do it ! Best Buy sells 1tb SSDs for $80-90 now. It’s worth it and I’ve been doing it since I got my pro
Same thing happened to the IHS of my 3950X when I put liquid metal on it a year ago. After cleaning it as much as I could, I noticed that the etching of the model etc on the IHS was gone.
I bought a used one a month ago. I paid right about what they cost new. Took it apart and cleaned out the dust, and applied new Arctic 5 thermal compound and a 1TB SSD. I usually buy a console right at the end of the lifecycle, but they never went on sale and just disappeared from shelves suddenly this time.
Because nobody can get the PS5 or Series X and want to at least play some of these new games. And you can for the most part on a PS4 Pro. So why not get one.
@@WllKiedSnake
Especially since Sony's still releasing their big titles on it atm.
Otherwise, I'd say go for a Series S. Their availability has stabalized a fair bit and aren't hard to track down anymore at regular retailers.
Enthusiast are still getting bent over for anything else though
@@Dasaltwarrior Yeah! That's at least one good thing Sony are doing. Allowing those who are stuck on last gen to play some of these games. Shame they didn't get to be fully PS5 games. But these last 2 years have proven it was probably for the best Sony made a few of these games cross gen. Yeah! Series S us actually worth getting I think. I didn't used to think this as a a few of the OG Xbox, 360 and One X enhanced games are not enhanced on Series S. But Microsoft have been making these recent Xbox One or Series X games enhanced on Series S thankfully.
I just bought one for 200usd
@@Dasaltwarrior series s has been running everything great so far. Even runs cyberpunk more stable, loll
Imagine modifing a PS4 to play PS5 games 🎮 🤔🤔
We don't need to, Sony us already doing most of our work!
We don't need to, Sony us already doing most of our work!
@@SwitchStation insurance policies never hurt to have around
at a nice 2 fps
That's called a ps4 pro but can't use ps5 discs
This is the video I’ve been waiting for! I changed my compound because of your first video!
I simply just cleaned my PS4 Pro every few months with duster and a vacuum cleaner to get rid of dust. I never had an issue with the fan being too loud. Also, I kept my PS4 Pro in a well-ventilated area so the heat coming out of the back wasn't blocked.
SO old? its not old AT ALL, and the games are certainly NOT £70 either ;) they're pennies
Not as many have ps5 since scalpers and difficulty finding them out in the wild. With that people are still having to get the ps4 and the demand is high enough still.
I had to buy mine directly from Sony themselves. They picked a bunch of people out at random who haven't bought a PS5 and you would buy them directly from their PlayStation Store Direct.
Don't use liquid metal with a copper or aluminium heatsink. You want to use something that's nickel plated
Or better yet just use normal thermal paste lol
Why would you rub that dried metal with a q-tip like that? The sound made me want to eat my own ears!!
It's stupid you user Cooper with liquid metal. So wrong
"Do you think that sony has it all figured out on theirs in from the factory?"
It is Sony, so... no.
Next question.
A ps4 pro that barely got used.
Just saying
After you've done homebrew and what not ..can u make a video documenting ur use of it and how u been enjoying it
As a PC/Xbox gamer, I was drawn to a PS4 for Spider-man, God Of War, and Persona 5. It's a good console.
I recommend trying Bloodborne! Favorite PS4 exclusive by far.
Try Dark Souls 3 if you want to lose your mind
The ps4 is great I've just quit gaming though but kept my ps4, Xbox 360 and 360 slim. Sold off my series x PC monitor and just kept a 32-inch tv gotta upgrade my own life now not just my characters don't want to end up with a dead-end job and no accomplishments cause I was to distracted level up a make-believe game character.
If you make a career out of gaming or games and consoles then that's great but in the real world, it's tuff to do so. If youtube wasn't around I bet this dude would be working in a lab or at gamestop still.
No hate, to each their own. We all live different lives and choose different paths and have different opportunities
I only used my ps4 to play exclusives so it never got that much use but the hard drive started making noise around the 300 hour make. I just didn't care to change it
Are you sure it was the HardDrive? I changed out the fan to a brand new one and replaced the thermal paste, sounds quite again like it did out of the box, I play on my PS5 now but ps4 is fun for modding/homebrew games
@@jtree4204 yeah it's definitely the HD I unplug it and the sound stopped. But I do appreciate your input.. I was going to change it out but I was lucky enough to get a ps5
Damn i just ordered thermal paste for my PS4 that broke. It seems dry so i figured i should replace it. Wish me luck.
What's wrong the ps4 I can give advice base on the problem you may be experiencing
@@frosty212 thanks for letting me know. It kept overheating and shutting down. I opened it up and the thermal paste was dry and all over the place. I cleaned it up and put new paste. It seems to be working good now. I played like 5 hours of horizon.
I purchased a used PS4 Pro around December of 2020 for around $320 (ik that's too much but the PS5 costs around $700 where I live).
It's the CUH - 7016b model (stock HDD) and it still works fine. No performance issues, the fan is somewhat quiet and manageable. Ocassionally it's spins up and gets annoyingly loud lol.
Playing early life cycle/previous gen games like Infamous Second Son, UC4, Lost Legacy: the fan doesn't even spin up. Stays at the same speed that it would when your on the homescreen.
Playing mid life cycle games like Horizon Zero Dawn, it gets a little loud but I practically can't hear it due to my TV.
Only a select few late life cycle games stress it's hardware and spin up the fans really loud. Marvel's Spider-Man is an example.
But it's good enough for me and I'll continue using it this year, with games like HFW, GT7, GOW and many 3rd party titles, I'm gonna hold off on getting the PS5 till 2023. Not really interested in a next gen console due to the price and availability.
Edit: sorry if this is too long, you don't have to read it.
00:18 because all 2022 games are going to be on PS4 too
Well not all.
Where's Bloodborne?
@@WllKiedSnake Horizon, God of War, GT7. What am I missing for 2022 that’s confirmed?
@@cybunny25 Sony knows many players are stuck on ps4 so they gotta keep releasing some games on the ps4 to keep people happy
@@SoSickRick Stray? Uncharted Legacy Collection? I'm sure more are gonna get announced.
I solved the noise problem on my pro by getting rid of those tiny black pads pressing on the chips and replacing them with thermal grizzly thermal pads that covered each chip completely.
I imagine sandwiching a sheet between the two metal plates might help cool the RAM chips further.
Odd, he hardly used it and you get these results. But yeah, for the PS5 i'm sure Sony didn't just chuck some liquid metal on a setup that wasn't designed for it.
1:25 urgs... it hurts to see, if ppl touch the Disc this way. Already Fingerprints on it.
It's a blu ray disc, it can take way more abuse to actually damage them
Thought I was the only one thinking this. Never hold a disc like this
@@dragonfistX200 i don't say it's damaged, but i avoid touching the reading site, since DVDs exists(same for GC Discs), by just holding it with the hole and the side. Everyone knows that, so i wonder why Spawn Wave does that, especially because he's a Collector too.
I did mine in march 2019 (Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut Liquid Metal). In January 2022 my PS4 Pro was immediately in airplane mode (fan at full speed) when I loaded in my save game from Horizon Zero Dawn. I knew my cooling was compromised because normaly it stayed two sound levels lower (stock paste is only one level lower). Disassembled my Playstation 4 Pro and it looked just like yours: dry. I sanded it down (only slightly, to make sure the surface is flat) with some sandpaper 1000 grit. Reapplied Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut Liquid Metal and it's nice and quiet again.
If sony didnt make the PS4 pro, Sony just would have done the same thing they did to the PS3 a year later after the PS4 came out and lose all main tile support
I was very dissapointed with the PS5 in general. I sold that whale of a console and got myself a 4 pro again. I changed the thermal paste and attached some extra pads to the VRAM, heatsink & HDMI chip and its so silent that sometimes i even doubt if my fan is even working :)
If you get a PS4 Pro invest in an SSD (solid state drive) and change out the stock hard disk drive (HDD). There's plenty of guides on here and on the internet, its very easy to do it by yourself. Don't throw it out, stash it somewhere in case you sell the console later on. It'll improve load times by a good amount nothing miraculous but you'll see 👍
I'm not sure about other iterations of the ps4, but with the pro it actually has a third USB slot in the back that's a lot more forgiving in space when it comes to chunkier USB drives
The jailbreaking is a headache. Spent a few hours on it and got as far as fully downloading a game that I couldn't install :[
Noting the color of the heatsink on the die gives me an idea what may have happened. I keep hearing that liquid metal does not like copper, and that heatsink does look like copper. According to what I've been hearing, if the heatsink was aluminum, the compound would still be liquid.
Just got delivered my PS5 this morning with Miles and Ratchet bundled, got lucky and found one online here in the UK, been using the Series X and S for a few months, around Christmas I got the feeling a wanted a PS for some of their exclusives like Spidey, love the dual sense and funny looking at both the Series X and Ps5 standing vertically beside each other lol
so the PS5 has a 4 year lifespan then is what I am seeing
It won’t be a problem. Metal can’t “dry”. What you see happening is amalgamation. Just search UA-cam for gallium and aluminum reaction. The primary component in liquid metal thermal paste is gallium, gallium is highly reactive with some metals. It will turn aluminum into dust in a few hours, reacts slowly with bare copper, and won’t react with nickel plating. After a few years the gallium literally seeped into the bare copper and formed a new alloy, thus appearing “dried out”. This won’t happen with nickel plated heat sinks.
The PS4 slim has the same issue with usb plugs not fitting in the front. It’s annoying to say the least. Seems like a huge oversight on Sonys part.
and people say liquid metal doesn't dry up I actually used it on my PC for a year then noticed my temps were no longer OK and when I tried to pry off my WaterBlock it was like it's glued to the processor almost damaged it too when trying to force it out it took the processor right out the socket along with it almost fainted after that good thing my 2600X did not loose any pins. I had to put a hammer to my screwdriver in order to get the processor off my Corsair H100i water block and had to use sandpaper to make the block and CPU heat spreader flat again I ended up lapping the processor and the block. I sure ain't buying thermal grizzly anymore because of this.
Yikes! Thanks for the detailed recap.
Metal can’t “dry”. What you see happening is amalgamation. Just search UA-cam for gallium and aluminum reaction. The primary component in liquid metal thermal paste is gallium, gallium is highly reactive with some metals. It will turn aluminum into dust in a few hours, reacts slowly with bare copper, and won’t react with nickel plating. After a few years the gallium literally seeped into the bare copper and formed a new alloy, thus appearing “dried out”. This won’t happen with nickel plated heat sinks.
Dude, of your ps4 pro's taking off (and the thermal compounds been done), *do the thermal pads!* Ram chips & vrms need lovin too! :p
If it is fused, you are probably going to get better results TBH. A fused metal connection, is better then a liquid one.
I noticed the ssd helping with load times back on the ps3. When the ps4 came out I’d actually zone into instances and be on mic before ps4 users with my ps3. Never bothered with a ssd in the pro but I think I may have to now!
Ladies and Gentlemen, allow me to clarify. When you first apply liquid metal, then you WANT it to actually react with the copper plate!
When liquid metal reacts with copper, it creates a layer with conducts heat much more efficiently.
When the liquid metal reacts with the copper plate, it seems to “dry-out”. This is because the liquid metal “soaks” into the copper plate.
This layer (coating) is what people often describe as the STAIN. Do not remove it. Do not sandpaper it!
This is why you should re-apply the liquid metal 3 times every 2-3 month in the beginning.
After this period, the coating should fully be formed, providing the most heat conductivity possible.
From here on, if there is Gallium in your copper/heat sink/liquid metal, you can re-paste the liquid metal every 1/2 years.
If there is no Gallium involved, then you won't ever need to re-paste the liquid metal again. I hope this helps.
Ps3 still runs well vita psp as well
Had I known what I know now I would not have sold my ps4. I have had a lot of issues with PS4 games on PS5. Sony has done a crappy job with their backwards compatability. One thing you should know is PS5 was designed to use liquid metal the PS4 was not so the heat sink materials are probably different. I think it would be a good idea to check the liquid metal every 2 years to see if it had dried out and replace as necessary. That is a good idea even if your system has thermal paste.
Last night I was playing forbidden west and I was farming materials. Well I went to do a manual save and the screen went dark (as it does to transition to the save files) but it stayed dark for like 15-20 seconds and then my ps4 shut down. I've never had that happen. Did it overheat?? I'm currently looking into thermal paste, a new fan. Cooling pads but can someone shed some light on What happend? And what I can do for better temp controll?
The way that new consoles are engineered, it seems like systems such as the ps5 is not very future-proof. If that liquid metal goes, it's toast. Glad i didnt invest into this $800 system that may melt down over the next 3 or so years. Glad to stick with my Switch. Mine is the one from launch and still works great!
I wish I never used any console at all when I was a kid, back in 2008 I got a ps3 and only played on it, here is the thing with me, I like to keep savegames, with ps3 and 4, not really posseble to keep any save games properly. now most of my saves are useless beacuse of account linkage. Yes, a console is great beacuse you can play most to all tripple A titles without having to upgrade anything like a pc dose, and also play console exclusive titles, but if you are like me, I recomend you get a gaming pc first.
Bro never shielded those components next to the CPU. Wow, talk about lucky.
Nationwide PS4/PS4 Pro scalping....from 299.99 at Walmart to 567.98, or higher across affiliate websites....
The PS4 hasn't dropped in price because the PS5 isn't really that much better of a option plus nobody seems to be able to get a PS5. I actually don't know a single person that owns one. Honestly I'm happy with my Xbox series S
there is a usb port on the back if your stick is too big for the front.
The PS4 Pro is perfect for jailbreak and tons of games are available for free on the internet. Also a good quality SSD upgrade gives it a fast loading time from installing games to loading up in-game
Happy New Year
Happy new year too you
Im still using a ps4 pro , it's my streaming machine here in 2022!!
I just repasted it yesterday , with some tm-30 and it's running like a champ. I also have a Samsung 860 evo ssd ..thing is Years old and runs literally brand new still lol
4 years is a long time to leave any compound to heat up and cool hundreds if not thousands of times and then thinking it should be fine!?!?!?! I change my TIM at least once at the top of the second year of its life and then every 6 to 7 months after that
I put liquid metal on my PS4 pro and added a temp sensor with a small led screen modded into my case to read the temp of the cpu and then put a Samsung 2tb 2.5” ssd in it, and gave it a 1TB external hdd and it’s great. Looks like crap compared to my ps5 but yea honestly I could totally see someone gaming perfectly fine on a PS4 pro in 2022 if they can’t get a ps5.
The effect of time on the liquid metal does have me slightly concerned for the life of first gen ps5 owners. However I'd like to think Sony knew what they were doing....
I mean, what do any of us know compared to Cerney?
Yes, they do. A whole new bunch of hardware sales in 4 years will do wonders for Sonys bottom line
if you use a system with liquid metal you wont have no problem but if you leave it and dont use then is gonna dry
It won’t be a problem. Metal can’t “dry”. What you see happening is amalgamation. Just search UA-cam for gallium and aluminum reaction. The primary component in liquid metal thermal paste is gallium, gallium is highly reactive with some metals. It will turn aluminum into dust in a few hours, reacts slowly with bare copper, and won’t react with nickel plating. After a few years the gallium literally seeped into the bare copper and formed a new alloy, thus appearing “dried out”. This won’t happen with nickel plated heat sinks.
@@Joelda23 not how this works…
What are talking about having a PS4 in the closet? Mine is still in my entertainment center. I can't find a PS5 in my stores.
Why you got to grab that disc like that now if that game if it goes somewhere else it's potentially scratched or someone will scratch it trying to get your fingerprints off
I'm a bit curious as to whether the LM residue will reduce the thermal conductivity of the IHS and Heatsink assembly, at the interface point. even with fresh proper compound, it feels to me like the LM residue would interfere..
Any thoughts on this? any chance of a followup video?
bought an ssd for my ps4 pro yesterday hopefully it will load games slightly faster
Do you trust game company anymore on their research.
Look at joy con drift
Look at red ring of death and yellow ring of death
Spawn Wave talking about the ps4 pro like it’s old news. Meanwhile I can’t even find a ps5 😔.
How come I’ve never had my PS4 take off and get loud when I play games I change the heat sink paste every year 🤣 maybe the pro is just a jet
All this bullshit to cool a ps4. My pro sits on a laptop chill pad that automatically turns on & off with the system. Quiet as hell.
Since when do console manufacturers do homework? Failure is built into designs on purpose.
My Spider-man ps4 pro won't turn on and I don't know what I need to replace is it my ac cord pr power supply?
Moral or the story: annoying af people and needs will instigate a discourse over the most arbitrary crap.
Hey........ I thought you weren't supposed to move a console with a disc inside it .......
I got the latest model PS4 pro with small power cable and its not loud like the original PS4 pro
what highest ps4 support drive space i know ps3 going upto 15 tb i have tested 2 tb ion my ps3 didnt see it
No body mentioned this but if you keep your PS4 pro on 1080p rez it will be quiet.
Right before the PS5 release, say 3-4 months, prices for the PS4 had reached $100, and the PS4 PRO had reached $150. Now with the supply & demand issues, PS4 has reached $200, while PS4 Pro has reached $245-$320 used here in Japan. I'd assume homebrew is going to jack up the prices even further.
Has anyone removed the liquid metal and just used thermal paste on the PS5 yet?
That doesn't work and it shuts down the PS5.
Yes tronicfixs has done this and it's highly recommended to use LM on PS5 systems to avoid bending due to extreme Temps
I think like paste it will have to be replied in the future if you notice temps increase with fan noise.
so the PS5 has a 4 year lifespan then is what I am seeing