The New World: A Beautiful Mess
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- Опубліковано 2 лют 2021
- A review of the Terrence Malick film The New World, a lavish and beautifully shot historical epic that nonetheless falls short in a few important ways.
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CORRECTION: Well color me surprised! A few helpful viewers have pointed out that the suit of armor Colin Farrell wears in the movie is not only historically plausible for early 17th century America - it's also supported by archaeological evidence. Excavators have actually unearthed three close burgonet helmets at Jamestown, and while that sort of armor was old fashioned by our period, it was pretty common throughout 16th century Europe, and not "jousting armor" as I rather flippantly refer to it in this video. My 13 year old self would have been horrified by that remark, and I apologize both to him and to you guys for the error. Further reading: historicjamestowne.org/collections/artifacts/close-burgonet-helmet/
Helmets of this period are all over the place, they chose to equip him as a slightly out of date cuirassier, had they gone up to date with an English Savoyard harness it would have looked very odd indeed and detracted from the movie.
Your 13 year old self would have been happy about the swords.
I doubt colonists would have had the most up to date armor anyway 😐 please review Cold Mountain.
This man is a heretic! To the cross! For the lord!
@@craftpaint1644 That film probably has one of the most accurate portrayal of the Civil War battle to date.
I got freaked out because my name's Tyler. But I think I'm okay because I'm eating chicken salad, not chicken nuggets. Close call!
Ah you were eating healthy chicken nuggets
@@seanriedel8933 Not so much, haha. A chicken salad sandwich. Not a salad with chicken, lol!
@@perciusmandate still, much healthier than mcnuggets
@@robjones1328 stop trying to condemn this man!
But do you watch Knightfall tho?
I always thought that Rogue One had some serious historical issues.
yeah I highly doubt a Rebel strike team could destroy that much without some alarm being raised I mean come on you're telling me that not a single Imperial tech saw what was happening on an Imperial world with very tight security.
Solo is a poor imitation of history. Trench warfare didn't look like that!
Many Bothans gave their lives in the making of "The Making Of..." that movie.
@@euansmith3699 They all contractionally have to say they enjoyed the experience though.
@@jonathonrodriguezthomas6457 I completely. They treated the Imperials like they were completely blind. I get that the rebels are the heroes, but honestly I think the villains would've been more intimidating if they used any common sense like deploying the garrison
"shall I poop in the river?" This is the sort of high minded pretentious cinema that makes supporting you on patreon worth it.
Also it was so true to the movie it made me laugh
Don’t poop in the river !
That’s how Cholera starts !
💩 🦠 🌊🤢☠️
@@bmyers8356 That thought had crossed my mind.
Also, don't poop in the river right next to someone who's washing their crockery and cutlery in the river while a boatload of tourists with cameras is going by, unless you really want to be famous on the internet when they get home.
Yeah, that happened.
For the record, I was on the boat, not pooping.
@@Sableagle a likely story. (looks at you dubiously)
Tyler who watches knightfall sitting there eating his chicken nuggets be like😳
Siiiiighh. That would be me.
I like my chicken nuggets good sir and I saw one, ONE episode. I thought it had potential...
@@LadyTylerBioRodriguez getting real.
Top 5 worst humans:.
5. Stalin
4. Mitch mcconnell
3. Himmler
2. Hitler
1. Tyler who watches knightfall
@@taloob493 My aunt would probably agree. Plus I'm a papist. Real wretched sinner.
One thing that I think people miss when talking about Native Americans "living in harmony with nature" is that they relied a lot more on wild food sources than Europeans did; they didn't have livestock for the most part, so especially for protein they were mostly reliant on wild fish and game, and since their agriculture was generally smaller scale, they also had to supplement their crops with wild-gathered fruits and nuts and so forth. So of course they aren't just going to "steamroll over nature," for the same reason that a European shepherd wouldn't just slaughter all 500 of his sheep and then be left holding the bag (and lots of rotten mutton, presumably). It's not "spirituality," it's economics (though of course it did take on spiritual connotations as these cultures developed).
Tying into this, there's this perception that Native Americans lived in an "untamed wild landscape" and just adapted themselves to it, but in reality the forests of Eastern North America were carefully managed and manipulated by their inhabitants to suit their needs. "Wild untamed forests" look very different.
The scale of agriculture also varied by location and population. South and central america were much more heavily farmed than most realized. Many of the rainforests of today are not that old relatively.
I read something once about English settlers moving west, into lands that had not seen armed conflict between Europeans and Native Americans, but where the population had nevertheless been decimated by disease, and the English were amazed to find what appeared to be overgrown, untended orchards, with fruit trees lined up in rows, and they had no idea who could possibly have planted them, to the point where they speculated that they had grown that way naturally, like large-scale fairie rings.
The notion of the "untamed forest" might stem from the reasoning the settlers used to take Native Land - that the Natives did not "manage" it and thus had no right to it. We might still, collectively, believe the lies of our forefathers.
As for the more sustainable Management of nature being "economics", you're damn right. And while I'm Sure most of us agree that we don't want to live like the Native Americans in the 17th century (medicine, education, a State with a Monopoly on force, democracy and many other things are real nice to have), there are lessons to be learned on how to conduct our own economics. If not in Practice, then in "spirit", if you'll allow me that Joke. Sustainability is not a "nice to have" for our economies, it is an absolute necessity, and for that to become a reality we will need to downsize parts of it. And ya'll need to pick up small-scale farming/gardening. Calling it now!
If there were deer around, they consumed them...as the settlers learned to kill and eat as well. One good size buck could feed a family for quite a while if salt or smoke cured
I completely agree and I've often said the same thing. I'm certain if native Americans were given access to modern equipment in 1492 they would have done exactly what we did with it
Some of the best videos are when Atun-Shei brings the lofty back down to Earth. Something about realizing John Smith and Stonewall Jackson shit in the woods too makes it harder to church them up.
One day ago?!
Wait, does shitting in the woods not make me morally superior to you?
@@sebastiansullivan6450 I was about to say that
@@sebastiansullivan6450 he probably has videos available early for patrons. That happens a lot, apparently
I always think of Jesus with diaper rash. 😁
I can't wait for "The VVitchfinder General preacheth againft the pamphlet "Knightfall""
The pamphlet known as "Knightfall" is nothing but shameless Popery!
Now youve done it
@@danielt.9101 beat me to it
Damn, I would love that!
This literature is the work of the devil himself! Douglas MacKinnon, Rick Jacobson, Metin Huseyin, David Wellington, Samira Radsi, Thou art wretched sinners, utterly unworthy o’ God’s love. A fountain o’ pollution is deep within thy natures, and thou livest as winter trees; unprofitable, fit only to be hewn down and burned. Steep thy lives in prayer, and hope that God sees fit to show mercy upon thy corrupted souls.
"are there swords in this film?" fuck hes got me pegged
"Phrasing Mother!"
and they better go clang clang clang!
And don’t forget they gotta swish swoosh
I used to like swords in movies. Then I started getting into medieval history and now I HATE swords in movies. Nothing's ever period correct in terms of armor or weapons. Everyone's wearing various bits of leather "armor" of dubious efficacy, and so, so many random metal studs arranged in various patterns, and so, so many random smelly furs. Worse, it becomes painfully obvious how bad the fights always look when you know a bit about how swordplay was actually done. It's just really hard to not notice the actors are mostly just swinging at each other's swords rather than trying to kill each other- and sometimes if you freeze the frame their swings often miss by several FEET. It's understandable for safety's sake, but it doesn't make for a very immersive or authentic experience as an audience member. Worst of all is fire arrows. I hate fire arrows so much, I won't even start on fire arrows.
There's only a few movies I can think of that do swords some type of justice. Off the top of my head I recommend _Rob Roy_ and _The Duelists_ for some near-realistic sword fight scenes. If you like swashbuckling on the seas, I highly recommend _Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World._ It's the most historically accurate movie I've ever seen and it's also very entertaining. There are many swords, or at least upwards of several.
@@choronos I'm fine with close enough (long sword being too long, or something) or weapons, fighting/talking style, and clothing showing character (flashy man has shiny sword)
“Love is agreeing on a temperature for the thermostat.”
You sir, are a true and wise human.
"you're history nerds, and you're probably asking, are there swords in this film?"
Man knows his audience
He forgot the follow-up questions: "are the swords on display correct to the period? And are they used in a fashion that matches their design?"
Spoiler: the answer to those two questions is frequently "no." :-P
I'm a history nerd, I generally ask "Are there 16"/50 caliber Mark 7 guns in this film?
The answer is usually no.
And anyone who mentions "Battleship" is getting shot.
@@jamesharding3459 Under Siege
“Y’all are history nerds, so when you’re trying to pick something out for movie night, you generally ask yourself, ‘Are there swords in this film?’ and ‘Do the swords go ‘CLANG CLANG CLANG’?’ You might also ask, Does this movie do the history justice, or will I spend the next two hours pointing out the inaccuracies to my wife, who will then ask me to sleep on the couch tonight?’”
First of all...HOW VERY DARE
" love is agreeing on a temperature for the thermostat" this guy knows. This guy knows
This makes so much sense.
@@o0Avalon0o in my marriage the heating is always being bargained on
Quality is amazing in this one dude
I can literally watch him talk about anything while standing in the woods wearing historical clothing
Totally agree
ObesetoBeast you’re inspirational af
They actually painted parakeets to look like extinct Carolina Parakeets for this one quick scene 4:49 thats some crazy attention to detail. They even went out of their way to guess what they sounded like based on size and shape of living parrots
Ohhhh, they're *Carolina parakeets*! I was wondering what parrots were doing on the East Coast in the 1600s. I feel silly (but better informed)!
The New World is a masterpiece. I get that it’s not for everyone, but Malick really is a unique talent. I mean, what other director will stop filming his actors in a scene to capture footage of an osprey. Call it pretentious, but Malick at his best is something you just feel.
I used to work at Jamestown Settlement and as far as the history of this movie goes, it gets a lot wrong. Like, it’s barely a notch above the Disney Pocahontas. The Smith-Pocahontas relationship is ahistorical. Many real life figures are cut out or turned into composite characters. What it really does well is capture the feeling of the 17th century better than just about any film I’ve ever seen.
Naturalism!
I’m from Williamsburg and it was jarring to recognize background trees from the scenes on the chickahominy river
I have the utmost respect for any camera crew that bravely works in the hell that is the climate of SE Virginia. May their lenses rest forever in a non humid world
My parents live in South Carolina now. I visited them in August a few years ago, and I'm pretty sure that's what hell feels like. Hell is always traditionally depicted as fiery, but I personally think hell is disgustingly moist. Your socks are always wet, you're always soaked in sweat, and nothing ever gets dry- that's what awaits you in hell.
@@choronos Yeah it wasnt until i went to arizona that i realized i hate the humidity and not the heat!
I live a few minutes from the events portrayed in this film. I wonder how people then could hack it. On top of that, the first colonists didn't have mild winters. Much of Jamestown burned in early January 1608, during a time remembered as the Great Frost.
"Where shall I poop?" is probably the most modern question ever asked.
Modern? The most asked question in the history of mankind.
Each day it's asked around 8 billion times, give or take.
As Douglas Adams wrote: The three phases of civilization can be described by the questions, How can we eat? Why do we eat? and finally Where shall we have lunch? And if Terry Pratchett had written it perhaps it may have been: How should I poop, What does it mean to poop, and Oh god why are the toilets in this airport out of order?
21st Century person: The toiltet
Atun Shei: The riverside
Me: I see, a man of culture
@@mikaelleonbriones6356 Ah yes, the *T O I L T E T*
Deuteronomy 23:13 would indicate that it's actually one of the most fundamental questions of human society. Also, heh-heh, "fundament".
His description of today’s “Making Of” documentaries is more accurate than “The Patriot.”
That's not saying much.
The Patriot is a pretty low bar for historical accuracy, like a couple centimeters up from the ground low.
LMAO!
There are plenty of wildly stupidly inaccurate movies. I think the reason the Patriot gets singled out is that the cast is absolutely killing it the entire movie. It's just so well acted, and not in a pretentious arthouse way. Those people were clearly enjoying playing those roles. Especially Jason Isaacs.
I think the frustration is at what otherwise should be a very good movie.
Atun you forgot:
People like to complain about loosing touch with nature more than touching nature.
I've always looked at Terrence Malik's historical movies as historical fiction, he has his own story to tell using historic events as a backdrop.
I love how he makes historical figures feel like real people that you might know. We often think of them as quote spouting philosophical geniuses but they also took massive poops 💩
Well, even the ones who WERE quote spouting philosophical geniuses also took massive poops. Probably. :)
I hate that word. It's so gross.
Some of our best and brightest probably had some real moments of clarity while ensconced in the privy.
@@chrisbonin2174 Wasn't Martin Luther very vocal about how he had some of his greatest ideas/thoughts while sitting constipated on the toilet? Much to the embarassment of modern Lutherans.
I love how you defend Indians in a more honest way, by saying we were conquerors of our land as much as any other human tribe around the world.
You may love it, but it's not reality. Just a feeling you have. Plus you are too vague in your comment to even have any logical point. So, feel better?
@@earnthis1 Coockoo! Coockoo! Coockoo!
@@earnthis1 clown 🤡
@@earnthis1 🤓🤓
Indians were certainly conquerors and warriors at times. Some tribes were genocidal
I love how Atun-Shei always has cool skits in his videos
My favorite skit of his was the one where he is a nazi who is fighting a Russian soldier to not be taken but then an "aw shucks" American comes in and the Nazi instantly surrenders and asks for a great new life in the US as a rocket scientist :)
Such a drama kid it's beautiful
theatre kid I should have said
I read that as skirt at first...
He did say he was pretentious film student.
I do like when the swords go "clang clang clang"!
“An anachronistically woke white guy”. I love it.
Just like Kingdom of Heaven. Great film (when watching the Director's Cut) but GOD is the main character like a piece of wood because of his anachronistic anti-religious angst.
It's an easy claim to throw out there with no back up. He fit the time as much as anyone else.
0:53
Anyone watching this right now named Tyler eating chicken nuggets just choked on one of em, probably.
I did actually. Although I didn't have the nuggets this time. That was the blinkest cannibal episode.
And watching Knightfall.
I jumped, but I don’t watch Knightfall😂
A man walks in to a forest clearing in a hat like that, people know he's not afraid of anything. Tip-top millinery work by our lecturer.
David Thewlis is an ornament to any film graced by his presence.
You're gorram right, on both counts.
That comment had a Firefly feel to it. LOL
Your take on the privilege of feeling disconnected from nature is 🔥🔥
I've alway kind of hated that "technology/civilization vs nature" theme in many films, because technology and nature are inherently apathetic and are neither good nor bad. Nature is just as likely to give you berries to eat and fish to hunt as it is to give you a hurricane that destroys your small town. Technology is just as likely to allow you to increase the yield of your farm and allow you to move past farming for simple sustenance and into the realm of agricultural export as it is to burn down the forest to make more space for said farmlands.
nature and Technology can be beautiful in their own way, but they're also both cruel and uncaring, they act without morals or forethought because they are not human.
It seems like whenever a film tries to say we should live a more sustainable lifestyle, it defaults to "technology bad, go build a rock hut city slicker". I think the reverence for nature is very much a romanticization of the past, and it's the same reason that a lot of people portray Indian tribes this way, because they think Simplicity is better, but don't understand that life was just complex in a different way.
super big tangent, sorry for the rant
Excellent observation and case in point Star Trek is often beloved because it does the opposite of this film. Instead of being melancholic for a supposed simpler past, Trek is optimistic for a future where TECHNOLOGY makes our lives better.
Well doesn't technology cause more lasting to nature than nature does to technology, Idk maybe I'm wrong.
What I'm trying to say is that the romanticization of nature or technology/civilisation isnt without a grain of truth. One point being, is that nature while apathy like technology alot of what comes out of nature as a result of it is alive whereas anything that technology produces isnt (unless you count cloning and artificial cells but those aren't in abundance yet). Another point to bring up is that with technology comes people and with people comes ideas and with ideas comes conflict and maybe that's because of nature's apathy is exactly why its seen as purer and simpler than technology/civilisation cause dealing with nature is easier than dealing with people.
This idea isn't a modern one either so it goes back as far as the first civilisation with the epic of gilgamesh having a character that exemplifies this idea. So your point about it being a modern view with sentiment for the past isnt true.
@@lampad4549 conflict isnt human. Its found in nature too. Do you think apes and lions and ants and microbes livein perfect harmony? No, its a constant race to secure enough resources to propogate your existence. In fact, the fact we have IDEAS means weve risen above the need to spend every waking moment for survival.
If you seriously think nature is "simple", please just go outside and try to survive in it. No help. No nasty, evil technology. Just you. Tough isnt it?
The thing missing from this conversation is that ultimately, the tech v nature debate is just a placeholder for alienation v nostalgia for belonging.
Now you can ascribe alienation to whatever you want, but pining for the ability to shit in the woods wont help you escape it.
The romanticization of the natural world, at least in the American mindset, can be largely traced back to Thoreau's camping experience that he wrote a very dry book about... in which he was still close enough to civilization that his mommy could do his laundry for him.
The technology vs nature is false.
Technology and nature can coexist in harmony and I hope this will happen more in the future.
Nature can inspire technology...
And technology can protect nature...
From big rock from space for example...
Yeah, dinosaurs a pretty sour they whose in perfect harmony with that asteroid...
We can even use technology to protect nature from bigger disasters like the homo sapiens...
End I find the separation of technological from natural a little of arrogant and with too much religious flavor for my taste...
Human belongs to nature so everything humans do is natural eve the technology...
I don't hear anyone say termites nest at not natural or when other life forms cause distractions or even extinctions that are unnatural... To separate human from nature is wrong... end when you describe human "staff" as unnatural you do exactly that...
"Even you.........TYLER"
I'm taking that personally
To defend the fact that it seems like the Algonquin aren't doing any work: Civilizations that didn't do mass farming and urbanization actually did have a lot of free time. Research suggests humans of the upper paleolithic had way more leisure hours than us, spent socializing, creating artwork, and screwing.
Yes, in fact one of the most admirable subjects about hunter gatherers, was their leisure time. They didn’t do “back breaking work” as it was not an efficient way of life for them.
Also building massive monuments like the Cahokia mounds for a more recent example.
Has to be said, the working class could have the same standard of living working about 2 or 3 hours per weekday, it's just that there is a capitalist class extracting their wealth. Hunter-gatherer societies and small-scale agricultural societies of course do not have a capitalist class to extract wealth, so of course they only work as much as they need to sustain themselves, not also a lord of some sort.
@@Quintinohthree You are missing out the very important detail that hunter gatherer groups were very small and humans in general were in much lesser numbers. They could not sustain a big population, not physically nor governmentally. Imagine thinking there is no wealth extraction outside of capitalism, lol. Pray tell, what would you be doing during your 2/3 hours of allotted work? Feminist dance theory for the commune? Somehow the answer is never farming.
@@Quintinohthree This is blatantly untrue. Even if the value produced by the labor of all workers at a company was evenly distributed, life would not significantly improve for most individuals. This is because the wealthy, although rich on paper, are not a significant fraction of the aggregate demand of society. The 1% may have 50% of the wealth, but the only consume 5% of the resources. Your claim that the average worker could somehow reduce their working hours by up to 60% is therefore ridiculous. No society has ever done so, and until productivity further increases, no society ever will.
That rant about how they don’t make those “making of” stuff like they used to is so on point. The last time I saw one go so on depth with the technical stuff instead of just jacking off the producers and actors was The Dark Crystal stuff for the Netflix show. They went in on how they had to make the sets, the puppets and filming that it was a breath of fresh air compared to how they do those these days.
"King James, MA BOI" I spit my drink
The MA BOI reminds me of the MADA DUDE from the Gods and Generals review
Considering him mentioning Demonology in a previous vid I'm sure he's ridiculously immersed in King James.
That's one thing I hate as well, whenever they portray native societies as utterly harmonious or somehow free of the major and minor complications that stem simply from a bunch of people living together in a community. It's a genuine disservice and devaluation.
It's often about hating modernity more than loving or understanding those basic societies. That's why most are far less accurate than this good but imperfect movie.
I love the New World; it’s about as historically accurate as Pocahontas, but it’s just so beautiful. However, the set pieces, costumes and even the fort itself are very historically accurate.
Yeah it's a movie I'm mixed about personally. On one hand it's beautifully shot, superbly acted and one of Mallicks best film's. Yet it also perpetuates a lie about Pocahontas, of the monsterous things that actually happened to her and the countinued lie that european and native tribal relations were anything more than a protracted genocide. While I know this isn't Malicks intent the most pervasive lies are ones steeped in accuracy in parts that lead people to believe the whole and can be more damaging that just straight up fantasy. It's a strange middle ground that I find uncomfortable, like if the Nazis won the war and made an Anne Frank film where she falls in love with a German soldier.
@@danielyoung6778 yea, the whole writing a story about some princess that would've been really into you if you ever met is kinda weird, especially since you are racist against them at the same time
@@PropheticShadeZ racism amongst those who marry or go with or even have children with is not too uncommon ironically enough.
Legendary music producer Hans Zimmer(man) got his start as second cameraman on a historical movie set.
Happy to see another upload my friend! Your wardrobe and production quality never cease to amaze. Will watch with pleasure when I am out of school. 😂
Hay....
What I personally liked about this movie was the contrast between the two men and their love for Pocahontas. John felt only lust for her, it wasn't real love, but her husband loved her so much, he was willing to let her go to marry another if that meant that she would be happy. Her happyness was more important to him, regardless the heartbrake he would have to endure. And that is true love :selfless. A strong contrast with Winona Rider's character in the "Age of innocence".
Where else can you get the most thoughtful, insightful historical and film analysis while still enjoying good poop commentary? Brings a tear to my eye...
The fact that this movie has any historical accuracy makes it more commendable to me. I always view it as more of a fever dream than a movie (I look at Tarkovsky, Bela Tarr, Ingmar Bergman, etc. in the same way). Even if the historical accuracy weren’t there, I would still adore the poetry of the filmmaking.
The big problem with the whole "living in harmony with nature" thing is that it tends to leave out a few things... it assumes that the creatures living in "nature" some how negotiate (or even know) where the line of sustainability ends. The truth is that this line is solely dictated by nature -- and the "natural" way it enforces this limit is through death. Nature typically enforces harmony through starvation. Point being that nature is an uncaring bastard! And the goal shouldn't be to get back to nature but to find a way that isn't just about delaying nature's revenge. Anyway, engagement!
This is the key thing nearly everyone misses. Technology helps us fend off nature, and also protect it to some extent, but the way most of our technology is used currently makes it completely opposed to the well-being and sustainability of nature, the planet, and ultimately, us as a species. We need to find a way to live sustainability so that we do not decimate nature and take us with it.
I’m nicking the “Love is agreeing what the temperature is on the thermostat “
The fact that they made John Smith Irish is a sure fire way to get me watching this film
I'm gonna be honest, I read the title and thought you said The New World as a way of referring to the Americas and thought "yeah that's about right"
One of the most beautiful film scores ever. RIP James Horner.
This may be the world’s longest fart joke.
I litterally watched this in 4th grade to learn about my virginian state history course as a documentary, had to sign a waver to see it.
Side note: Saw you walking through the woods in that costume and for a minute thought I was watching Townsends video. Was actually looking at the knee breeches and wondering why he chose the wrong closures, not like Jon to get a detail like that wrong. lol I'd love to see you guys collaborate.
The wife and I still can’t agree on the thermostat setting after 19 years 😂
Man, imagine if there was a movie like this about how similar the English and Algonquian really were, outside of outward differences like clothes, culture, etc. Now that'd be a good message, I think. It'd be much more unifying than what they tried to do here, and much more true to life.
As far as I remember that was one of the themes in Disney's Pocahontas, the whole ''Savages'' song is how about they fear and hate each other for the exact same reasons, without realizing how similar they actually were.
Yeah but they should do it in a way that also avoids the false equivalency that Pocahontas made.
@@2122Hellfire nah
Thank you for putting the medieval world in the context of this period - so many people think it just *ended* and boy it didn't lol
The Early Modern period is not the same as the Medieval period, but I can see the confusion as much as people confuse the Medieval period for the Dark ages.
Early Modern period: Spanish Empire, Religous fracture in Europe again and most importantly Centralized power.
Medieval period: Decentralized goverment, Feudal wars and the increased power of the Church.
Dark Ages: Very decetralized goverment, Kingdoms establishing themselves on Romes corpse at least the Western one and a return to tribalism and local government.
The New World's opening sequence I think really is one of those Black Monolith moments. While a blackmonolith didnt spur our species to modernity, and while Jamestown was not the first encounter to the Powhatan, both does an incredible job of captivating that "groundbreaking" moment when we became more ourselves today.
Your rant about “making of documentaries” made me want to rematch the lord of the rings making of series for the 20th time.
4 commentary tracks on the Extended cut DVDs! Plus crap tons of mini documentaries on the film making. And with the death of DVD in favor of online streaming, I'm pretty sure that nobody will ever top Peter Jackson's achievement, do they even bother with director commentaries any more? I certainly never see any if they do, how would I?
movie magic was a great show in the 90s
I really enjoy the lively, sensible, and well reasoned commentary you bring to critical reviews.
I must say this may be one of your best videos yet, especially in terms of talking about films. It's both informative and hilarious.
"Mythical romance between pocahontas and john smith"
Oh i don't realize the obergruppenfuhrer time travelled to this era
Pretty much all the river shots from the Virginia scenes are filmed on the Chickahominy River from my grandpa's workboat, you can find "Colonial Harbor Marina" in the credits and I think you can see my uncle in the making of. Sadly the only tea I have to spill is that Colin Farrel was a dick to everyone on set.
I remember exploring the remnants of the Powhatan village as a kid that was on a bluff not far from the marina (the path up to it is steep, narrow, and entirely inaccessible to vehicles so getting all the material up there must have been a pain.
This video is marvellous, old boy. Your attention to cinematography, your commitment to nuanced yet hilarious comment, and that final parody. *Chef kiss* Really quite extraordinary. Thank you; thank you so much.
I love the joyous "YAY" at people eating each other
10:36 there is a scene where Raoul Trujillo's character begins to speak to a soldier in broken Spanish, while pointing out the parts of his Archibus using English and Spanish words intermittently. I'm not sure if this scene is only in the extended cut, but it is a really cool detail Raoul added on the fly.
3:12
Godammit I've never wanted to punch a voice so much in my life.
I can only think you've never heard the British MP, Jacob Rees-Mogg. (If you haven't heard him speak, keep it that way. You'll be happier).
Same applies to Kent Hovind.
@@Sableagle Ay! I was wondering if anyone else knew about inmate #06452-017.
And just as I sit down on the toilet, your channel releases a new video, impecable timing.
I have had so many people watch you since I discovered your channel. You are doing an amazing job with this channel
"it's called camping you numb nuts"
Sadly I think that needs further explanation since the rise of the term "glamping".
I had no idea that it was and then looked it up.
I had no idea that people larped as medieval nobles on a hunting vacay.
Had to look it up, too. That looks like way too much effort and not to mention, silly.
“Shall I poop in the river?” is unironically the content I’m subscribed for
Oh, God, I just realized how pathetic my life is....
...I always love it when people explains eloquently the things they love here on youtube 😍 - thanks for adding yet another movie to my (possibly neverending) to watch list...
another amazingly-made and hilarious video! thank you so much for sharing your art. it's been such a shining light in quarantine for me
I remember going to Jamestown on a class trip once (during the 2013 government shutdown) and someone asked our tour guide about the film, and he said "we were just really disappointed with the product", and the way he said it was just always kinda funny to me.
Back to the movie reviews I see and what a great way to return
By golly the absolute quality of your videos is getting better each upload!! Keep it up!!!!
This is a great channel. I just saw it for the first time today. Awesome work man!
Atun-Shei sir, you seem to have instantly read my brain when it came to the review of this movie. Last night in a hazy 3 a.m whilst indulging on a sandwich I was watching your Jamestown Vs Plymouth video where you briefly mentioned this movie, I was instantly transported to a distant memory in the back of the filing cabinet of my noggin to which I thought to myself " yes, Yes indeed that was an interesting film... wonder if he'll do a review" I then proceeded to take a bit of said sandwich as the witchfinder general gave me a look of disapproval... Then took a loooong luxurious drag from my pipe in loving memory of General Weed, knocked out and woke up to this movie review lol Great work sir!! Love your channel and your mind reading skills! I giveth thee 20 matchlocks of 20 :D
RIP Christopher Plummer who just happened to die two days after this released and was in this film
He hated working with Terence Malik. Publicly vocal about how the film had no storyline and he would never work with Malik again
Another great combination of historical accuracy and humor! Your description of being a history geek pointing out so many historical inaccuracies that we're sent to the couch is so spot on!(see American Outlaws!!!)
You channel is just incredible, man. Thanks for another great vid.
Gods above that review extract is the most pretentious thing I've ever seen. And that's coming from me.
I did love his response to that review.
Sounds like me making an English essay.
All he had to say was that it felt emotional and classical.
@@Sableagle
Sometimes the best response to pretentiousness is a smack in the face.
I'm a Terry Malick apologist. He has his vision and brings it to life. They're non-commercial projects made with commercial-grade production values. As far as the story goes, 'The New World' would benefit greatly from some heavy editing/reduction. The Pocahontas Saves Smith moment is intriguing, implying that she has designs all her own. The romance dimension of the story is weak and disposable. Just edit it away. The best part of the movie is the Natives' journey to England - THEIR New World.
Excellent review and analysis. And your filming location is gorgeous, great choice.
I recently discovered your vids and dig the content you bring to the table. Keep kicking ass!
"The movie just kind of shoves these two together and a few voice-overs just tell us 'Okay they're in love now!'"
I mean, Native Americans would likely say they got that part disturbingly right. Aside from how old Pocahontas was at the time.
Also funnily, or disturbingly, enough makes the “feels like a 15 year olds idea of love” comment he made more accurate.
Funny because thats what actually happened.
@@forickgrimaldus8301 Well, not really, but even if that's true, there's nothing wrong with that.
"Yall are History Nerds"
How dare you but aight
Classic old school Atun Shei essays, I love it!
You’re like perfect teacher. Well prepared, knowledgeable, condescending and self deprecating.
Because a teacher has to have some fun, too. A little edge keeps the peeps on their toes. Maybe sarcasm would have been a better word.
"Conquistadores are just crusaders with guns."
What an insult to crusaders. They weren't nice, but they weren't near as bad as the conquistadores.
The crusaders were just as brutal as the Conquistadors. This is what the Gesta Francorum (Deeds of the Franks), which was penned by a crusader, has to say about the sack of Jerusalem during the First Crusade:
"[our men] were killing and slaying even to the Temple of Solomon, where the slaughter was so great that our men waded in blood up to their ankles..."
"...when the pagans had been overcome, our men seized great numbers, both men and women, either killing them or keeping them captive, as they wished...
[Our leaders] also ordered all the Saracen dead to be cast outside because of the great stench, since the whole city was filled with their corpses; and so the living Saracens dragged the dead before the exits of the gates and arranged them in heaps, as if they were houses. No one ever saw or heard of such slaughter of pagan people, for funeral pyres were formed from them like pyramids, and no one knows their number except God alone. "
@@lycaonpictus9662 The first crusade and the sack of Jerusalem were horrific moment that can'treally be understated. However, there is an argument for the later established crusader states being much less horrific as a whole. As illustrated by the intermingling of west european and middle-eastern culture and politics. It's not something to get fully into in a UA-cam comment, but something which is illustrated by the accounts of the difficulty of generational Franks living in the levant explaining newly come Franks to the state of things.
Not really, in a basic surface level yes both were extremely brutal, engaged in local politics but the drive for the Crusades was less conquering more "reconquering" at least to them.
They were not out there conquering a foreign land for profit 1st and religion 2nd, it was just the opposite Religion 1st profit 2nd.
Not to mention the Crusaders were not out there to Convert the population and even later just copied the Islamic laws on Religious Subjects as there were so many non Catholics.
Nor were the Crusaders finding Cities of Gold in Mesopotamia or Egypt.
It was not oh new world stuff lets take it for our Kingdom, it was more the Crusader meme of we will take Jerusalem with extra steps and not enough planning or any real endgame other than take the Holy Land.
@@lycaonpictus9662 the Crusaders of the 1st crusade were not the same ones as the Crusader States.
Just like Saladin in that failed Crusader film said "I'am not those men"
The crusaders later adopted the tolerance of the Islamic World unlike when they were conquering the Holy land.
If Atun shi specified like the Northern Crusaders which were about conversion, conquest and colonization it would have been fine.
In fact the Slavs hated them so much they joined the Golden Horde Mongols (despite the Fact they were Eastern Orthadox and the Crusade of the Teutons was about pushing back the Mongols from the Slavs lands, keep in mind the Golden Horde were the same guys extorting Protection money from them like a Superpowered Medieval Mafia.)
But those crusades were the exception. (the Reconquista does not count as those were real Catholic lands and the whole conversion or be expelled thing happened after and was not the expressed Intention even if it lead to it.)
this film is incredibly messy, and I don't have any urge to rewatch/buy the film. But I was placed in a very interesting emotion while I watched. Films are inherently emotional, but when it's the same emotion over and over I stop caring. The New World was something brand new to me, it wasn't a romance or historical epic rather it was something completely different. A tapestry of ideas and history colliding to make the audience think about the early history of America. It was pretentious, but it has a lot of charm.
The Thin Red Line has the same effect. I watched it the same time as Saving Private Ryan and preferred it much more. A work of art compared to an entertainment.
I doubt it's pretentious
I always appreciate it when you push reality back into history and remind us all that these were people, with all the foibles and needs of people whatever the time period and culture.
Loved this one. One of your best videos so far.
I watched this back when it came out and I felt underwhelmed. My real introduction to Malick was The Thin Red Line, so I kind of knew what to expect and I appreciate the atmosphere he creates, but I may have to go back and give it a rewatch.
As Andrew says, get your hands on the extended edition.
Watched this on the toilet. Thanks for the inspiration!
Excellent video and especially your remarks in regards to this mythical primordial innocence which is so often pervasive in historical discourse even to this day. Great job
Omg I used to watch you videos like 2 years ago when you were a very small channel. So glad you're getting more popular!
Yeahp!! i had just finished watching your video on Stonewall jackson, and i was wondering when was the next video coming out . Good stuff
He see's through the internet it is witchcraft!. We must take him to the magistrate in the shire of which he dwells.
The magistrate of the Shire? That'd be Thain Paladin Took II.
I'm not sure if I've already commented this on another one of your videos but this channel is criminally underrated.
Great video. I like the long green grass in this intro to this movie, that's what I remember most about it. Top tier ending.
just like with these movie, at least once a year i just love watching the behind the scenes footage of the lord of the rings (yes all of it) like it was watching the movies itself. there is so much joy and fun in there.
I'm eating chicken nuggets while watching this and I was shook by him calling me out like that!
Your videos are incredible. Thanks! Keep em coming
I wonder when andy will talk about "The Messenger: The Story of Joan of Arc.
The best summary of that film was from France where it said, "Luc Besson (director) succeeds in doing what the English have tried to do for 600 years: Make Joan out to look like a crazed lunatic."
@@transrapide She was a Schizophrenic Teenager. I found the performance highly believable, I say that coming from a family that has issues with Schizophrenia. That doesn't mean Joan was "insane" but it does meaning she was in a state beyond reason with anyone else. That being said, she was absolutely herself regardless of her surroundings. In different circumstances she would have been made a nun given her visions.
@@transrapide I think most historical religious/zealot characters held in high esteem can safely be lumped into the crazy bin. That’s assuming if we look at historical events with skeptical, scientific lenses. That doesn’t diminish what they did
He already has, 2 years ago: "The Most Fµçкed-Up Scene in Movie History | Video Essay"
@@joelsmith3473 I mean a full breakdown of the film, not just a reference to the films opening. That was barely 5 minutes into the film. There are outstanding Inner monologue scene's throughout the film. What I love about the film is how it each individual is forced to find their own answer to her story.