Terrence Malick's The New World -- What I Love and Hate About This Movie
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- Опубліковано 24 лис 2021
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I just watched it for first time and am glad a history buff like you reviewed it. We need the cinematic beauty malik captures but a story that is gritty and realistic. 17th century colonial history is a vast untapped resource for movie makers.
One of the visual motifs that I love is how raw and wild nature is when you see the Americas, but when Pocahontas comes to Europe you see how controlled the trees are as they are trimmed and part of the Versailles gardens.
I think the key element of the movie is the contrast between Virginia and London. "New World" goes both ways.
Sir can you please make a video on a hidden life from Terrance Malick. I love this movie and want to know what you think about it.
yes, I intend to.
@@LearningaboutMovies Looking forward to it
Pocahontas performance was unexpectedly amazing
LOL @ "brooding hunk". Yeah, I agree with all the pros and cons you mentioned. First contact and colonialism to be an amazingly fascinating topic, so it's disappointing that Mallick didn't really doing anything wildly challenging with the topic.
I'm from Australia. If I had the chance I would depict the story of Bennelong -- an aboriginal man captured by the British and taught the English language to act as an interlocutor. From Wikipedia "Bennelong was brought to the settlement at Sydney Cove in November 1789 by order of the governor, Arthur Phillip, who was under instructions from King George III to establish relationships with the indigenous populations. At that time the Eora Aboriginals conscientiously avoided contact with the newcomers, and in desperation Phillip resorted to kidnapping." Like Pocahontas, he eventually travelled to England, and then back to Australia where he refused to rejoin 'polished society'. From here onwards, the relationship between White Australia and the Aboriginal population is non-existent to outright genocidal (see The Stolen Generation). It's an incredible and tragic story that says so much about our country. However, unlike Pocahontas, most Australians don't even know the name! I only learned about it in a recent trip to the Sydney Museum. Our Aboriginal population is so underrepresented that we only just barely trying to assuage our White Guilt with vague gestures of acknowledgement that we live on stolen land (somewhat influenced by the US's Black Lives Matter movement). But the hypocrisy (my opinion) is that while white people act like they care about aboriginal culture, there's very little actual appetite to learn anything about it. Too many Spider Man trailers about to drop! Anyway... Sorry... Off topic...
that sounds great. I have also wanted a film version of Cabeza de Vaca, which couldn't be anything but fascinating.
As for "brooding hunk," while all of the other colonials look dirty and emaciated, as they would've been, Farrell's Smith character looks like he's been enjoying daily trip to the gym.
As a Papua New Guinean and neighbour to Australia I think a movie of Bennelong would be an amazing undertaking. I hope someone looks at it seriously as a feature film soon
I second the vote for a video on The Thin Red Line.
As much as I love Days of Heaven and The Tree of Life, I tried watching the Thin Red Line once (watching what was admittedly a cheap DVD version) and couldn't get into it. I'm open to giving it another shot and would appreciate your insights.
On a totally different front, have you ever considered a recommendation video on the films that best capture the great works from American literature?
thank you. It's a good idea, though I bet that my list would be 50% noir/detective. Definitely will look into this!
Glad you liked it
Great review
My first time watching it and really enjoy it. Visually stunning .
I have only watched his The Thin Red line which I found to be worth watching .
The thin red line covers a different aspect of war .
It's about men who are also fighting a different war within themselves .
this is much the same, in its way. The movie follows The Thin Red Line in Malick's filmography. While the war scenes are brief, the same questions arise -- why is there war in nature? why are men kiling each other? for what? what's the purpose of existence? -- those kinds of big questions. All tied to the historical aspect of one civilization meeting another for the first time, and the question of colonization and settlements.
That is my favourite Malick movie. Even more than The Tree of Life.
Will you do a video on "The Thin Red Line" any time soon if you have not done so already?
I've been promising this one for awhile, just haven't gotten to it. I probably know this movie best out of all movies, so the question is how many videos will I do on it? Yes, for sure!
I have been a fan of Malick ever since I was totally captivated by "Badlands" upon its initial release. His subsequent "Days of Heaven" was just as impressive, though without the subtle humor that charmed me in "Badlands". I've rewatched them both many times. Nothing since then would I include in a list of favorites, and it seems that each successive film disappointed me more than the one before it. I still admire his intelligence and artistry, but I can't help feeling he does not give much thought to whether his audience is following the story or caring about the characters. Still, he is one of the few directors whose work will get me into a theater just for that big-screen experience.
excellent, thank you.
I certainly loves the movie (know little about the colonialism and history) but the middle portion sometimes bugs me. Beautifully shot (as all Terry films )and I really like how the beginning and ending forms some sort of parallels
Btw glad to here you loved song to song. I really loved the film and consider it as one of the best from mallick. Hope you'll do a video on it
thanks. yes, one day!
I thought Colin Farrell’s performance was the best part of the movie. If Hoffman didn’t win for Capote, it should have been Farrell for this.
interesting. I think he works best as a more charismatic character, ala In Bruges. As I said in the video, my mental image of the literary character of John Smith, and Farrell's performance of Smith, these do not match up at all. Which hurts my viewing experience.
in general, I have liked Farrell in multiple roles.
@@LearningaboutMovies I have never read the Pocahontas story, but the way Farrell conveyed the pain and emotion and restraint through his eyes was thoroughly inpressive
I like Colin Farrell in many movies especially In Bughes and The Lobster but not this. It is not really his fault, Terrence malick is not really an actor's director. Farrell seemed characterless and out of his element. There was no character development, I guess many of his scenes were edited out.
If Hoffman didn't win that year, the oscar should have gone to Joaquin Phoenix for Walk the Line or Heath Ledger for Brokeback Mountain. They were way better performances.
I like when they start walking like chickens 😊
I wonder what you think of this film:
ua-cam.com/video/iOy9WIEWOFc/v-deo.html
Liquid Sky - should this movie be considered a masterpiece like Eraserhead?
I"ll check it out. haven't seen it. thank you.
I am also conflicted about this film. It is very beautifully filmed as all Mallik Films are. But the whole middle part of the film is just dreary and tedious. The whispers going on and on and people dancing simultaneously, I don't know why everyone dances and whispers in Mallik films. It took me 3 attempts to complete it. The ending( last 5 minutes) are pure magic elevated by the Wagner Score. It is poetry on screen, a cinematic perfection. The film is worth watching for that alone.
I never took the plot and characters seriously.
thank you.
I enjoy this one more than you, but can appreciate your criticisms none the less. The historical inaccuracies and love centric plot never bothered me, of course I likely wouldn't notice many inaccuracies anyway. The noble savage trope is indeed on full display here and I'd have liked and expected a more thoughtful view on the subject, but it's not a show stopper for me. I will say, movies that push that trope to the extreme can come off as laughable to me, Avatar comes to mind.
Finally, I remember seeing your two reviews on Letterboxd a while back and found it interesting how much you had cooled on the film since your initial viewing.
I've probably warmed to it, really. It's likely that no other movie will attempt what's going on in New World, and who knows if we'll ever get another movie greenlighted that's set in 17th century Virginia.
This movie was a snooze fest 😴
yes, I didn't get through it the first two times I tried it.
Lol, I got this on dvd. Not sure if this is worth upgrading to the bluray