HOT TUB Sn Error Code / HOT TUB Not Heating Properly?
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- Опубліковано 26 гру 2020
- HOT TUB Sn Error Code / HOT TUB Not Heating Properly?
There's many reasons why a hot tub doesn't heat properly or just not working at all. Testing your hot tub high limit sensor or your hot tub heater probe sensor might be the problem.
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Comment below if you can't figure out a sensor or heating issue.
I have an m7 replaced both sensors and am now getting Snb code switched back to old sensors getting same code. Did I fry the board somehow in the process?
@@1upperformancegear439 why was the sensors switched in the first place?
@@1upperformancegear439 Sensor B is faulty. Look on the circuit board to see what one is sensor B . TURN POWER OFF.
If you have another sensor, try unplugging the one thats in there (unplug at the board NOT the heat tube) , plug in the other one, take water in a cup...from the tub....put the other sensor you just plugged in and put that sensor in the cup of water. TURN POWER BACK ON. Let me know what happens next. OK?
@@1upperformancegear439 Also. make sure water is up in the tub, the shut off valves are up, the flow of the water out the jets are normal.
@@VIPPoolsandSpas I have tried different variations with the old and new sponsors plugged in sitting in a cup all are throwing the same code. I was getting an OHH Code before after replacing the filter that would lock me out of the panel. I had to unplug both sensors and reset breaker each time to reboot the board. The hot tub was working before I brought it home. Since then I have burned up a motor and replaced that along with a filter and the 2 new sensors. Before swapping sensors today I was able to control the jets but wasn’t getting heat
Great info
Hello, Getting a SN-1 code on my Sundance Maxxus 880 tub with the Sentry Heater on the side of the control panel. Have you ever changed one of those High Limit switches out or know how to try to reset that? Just seeing if I have to completely drain the tub to get that one switched out. Thank you for any help you can give me on this.
There would be 2 sensors.. sensor 1 (SN1) and sensor 2 (SN2). Find sensor 1 and change that. But. Doesn't mean it's the sensor. Make sure no other code comes up before that one and make sure the circ pump is running. If the tub has no shut offs to isolate the sensor area, then you will have to drain the tub.
Robert! I will start with an apology for not
responding to the previous comments we started on my tub issue. My PC took the
room temperature challenge and committed suicide. (now a new project to be
worked on) in the middle of your invaluable advice! OK re-cap 2012 Cal Spa 4
man tub. 110V power, with a balboa control box, error code Sn and suction fault
LED is lit. No heat condition. I
replaced the heater, after testing it with a meter OL (Open Lead) was my meter
reading. 5.5kw replacement water heating coil purchased
and installed. I had heat for 10 minutes and error Sn again. That’s OK, I took
your advice and also purchased a new Temp sensor! Replaced sensor A! Following
manufacturer starting procedure. Fired it up again! I had heat for 10 minutes
and the stinking error Sn again. That’s OK again, I took your advice and
replaced the B sensor with the first on I took out! Temp sensor B was bad.
Start up once again, it worked took 8 hours to heat the water to 100°F. OK
flashing errors gone. The suction fault LED still lit. But dose not seem to be
effecting anything. I can live with it on. You did it! I did go a step farther,
I had the wire on hand and the disconnect was already on the wall. I configured
my 4 man tub from 110V to 220V. Woah! The heater now works in low and high jet.
The heater now is a fully functional 5.5Kw heater not the 1.3Kw in 110V. What a
difference the 220V makes. Well it will increase my water temp 12.5° per hour!
Thank you for your advice. It helped me redirect my focus to the errors and
issues I was having with my Tub! Couldn’t have done it without you Robert!
Glad everything worked out. Always cheaper doing it yourself. Give yourself the "pat" on the back for researching and doing it on your own. Good job !
Hi Can you help me, I am in South Australia, Spa retailer gone bust, I purchased a spa touch2 swim spa and have a message error 26 sensors out of sync ,. Can I repair this myself as I cant find a service technician here, still under warranty
Not sure the type of spa. If it shows a sensor issue make sure all is flowing well, filter is clean
Hi, i got cal spa 5000. It started showing OH when it reaches set temperatures (ie 98-100), and then just flashes oh and temp drops down to the 80s whenever I notice it and reset the breaker. So I got replacement balboa temp hi sensor, installed it and again it charged up to a 100 and went OH again, but now when I reset the breaker I have Sn flashing. The smaller of the two connected sensors goes into some metallic pocket on the back of the heater tube. I’m not sure if there’s some contact issue or what else could it be? Thanks
Replace both the high limit and temp sensor.
Great video
I have a tub with a balboa pack. Heater has it's on circular pump. The heater is about a year and a half old. Started when I noticed the water was cold and the controller said OHS. I killed the power and turned it back on, pump ran for a minute or two then OHS. Disables the tub.
Pump has good flow, and I just replaced both sensors thinking one was garage. Still getting the OHS. I'm starting to think it's a relay. Any thoughts or advice? Thank you
Normally I would say it's a flow issue or a sensor. BUT. You seemed to know this part. Funny how it comes on (OHS) when you power down then power back on. Any codes or anything before the start up programming?
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and taking the time to reply to comments. I'm getting my strong spa up and running after winter and it is now blowing the circuit breaker. It took about 20 minutes before it first tripped the breaker. When resetting the breaker it took from immediately to 10 minutes or so to trip. I accessed the circuit board and it smells like a electrical component failure. The transformer looks like it has gotten hot and since I removed one of the copper heater jumper straps it no longer trips the breaker. Could the heater have taken out the transformer? What would be your thoughts and suggestion? Thanks again for sharing your experience.
Sounds like a burnt heater relay.
@@VIPPoolsandSpas Thank you for your quick response. Just to correct and update my OP: both straps to the heater need to be removed or it will trip breaker immediately. With the heater disconnected it functions great as a room temperature tub. I do hear the heater relay click, verified 245v to the element when the heater is called for and tested the heater per Balboa. 14.6 ohm across the terminals, OL terminal to pipe. Do you still think it sounds like relay issue? Wish I could load test.
Thanks again for your help
@@brianwilson7203 it's going to be the heater element or relay. Cheaper to put a new element in and see. If it's the board, at least you have an extra element.
@@VIPPoolsandSpas UPDATE: Thanks again for your quick response and insight. I replaced the heater element for $55 and all is well again! Thank you
@@bdub562 glad it was just an element.
My balboa hot tub is saying heater to hot error even though the heater tube is cold
I cracked the pump nuts to check for air and all good.
I’m getting 20 ohms on the heater element.
No power to the filtration pump.
Filter is ok.
Any ideas please
Thanks
heater tube will never get hot to the touch. The sensor is picking up a temp issue. If your pump that pushing the water thru the heater tube isn't running, you need to figure out why.
Thank you for your informative videos, ive learned a ton but still cant get this spa to heat. We just bought a used 2005 hot springs sorrento ( great condition and worked before draining to move). It has the same pack as the one on the left inthis video it has the ribbon type sensor. Got it home, cleaned it, filled it and turned it on. All the jets seem to work fine as do all the functions on the lcd panel. I checked for air lock and no air just water came out. I turned the adjustment screw on the pressure switch and heard no relay ( .5 turn counterclockwise) though i can hear a relay when plugging in. I took the filter off and cleaned it (used a soft bristle toothbrush to clean each fin and rinsed with garden hose). Took a resistance measurement across the two black wires on the heater and got 16 ohms. Nothing seems to work. No matter what I still have those 3 blinking dots below the temp on the sceen (the blinking dots are there as soon as it is plugged in before the spa even turns on the jets). Im losing hair and sleep over this thing any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.
Did you try and jump the pressure switch? Disconnect the 2 wires, jump a wire across it and see if the 3 lights go away. If it goes away, change the pressure switch. Make sure the pump that pushes water thru the heater tube is flowing well.
Thanks for the quick reply, much appreciated. I jumped the pressure probe wires and got nothing. I was thinking it was probably a resistive on/off regulator so I measures resistance at off/hijets/lojets/nojets and got 47/1/1/47 ohms respectively (guessing that is correct). I also measured for continuity across the two metal tabs of the hi limit ribbon probe and got nothing. I then removed the ribbon probe and tested for continuity while hitting it with a hot air gun. No continuity there either (no idea if that is correct or pertinent but ive done the same to test temp switches before). As for the pump providing water to the heater, ill. Be damned if i can find it. I have a large pipe leaving (entering?) the heater to the large watkins pump impeller housing. The impeller housing also has a large pipe entering from the filter housing. I took adjacent panels off to see if the other pipe on the heater connected to a pump but it doesnt. Looking at the board it says that the metal connection tabs for pump #2 (no low or high settings) are p6 and p9: these are empty. I took one other measurement: the voltage across the heater at nojets/lojets/hijets and got 88/80/64 VAC respectively. Also noticed a capped hose running off the pipe frim the filter housing to rhe pump. Thanks again for taking the time to help with this.
Ok I have bilboa with code OHH. The flow is good. No difference with or without filter in flow. It heats up till about 35 36 degrees celsius. Then pannel shows OHH. Can it be the sensor? Can I measure the resistance of sensor?
It's probable the high limit sensor. You can test continuity and set for it to beep. if its bad, it will beep. OR. Set down to 95F and when it gets to 95F. test the volts on the element. The pump should be off and you will also get 0 volts on element. Then, set temp to 97F if it goes 3 degrees more, test the element. If you get volts, its the sensor.
Hi, learned a lot and hope you can help me!! I have the one on the right (Balboa) with two individual sensors. My issue is a OHH code, cleaned and then tried removing the filter, no help.. replaced the two sensors left and right with identical, no help.. reset power, no help.. Flow is good.. Once resetting it shows 100 and correlates to external meter then it heats and drives to over temp where OHH occurs?? whats wrong
Regards
Clueless
OHH could be a flow issue, a filter issue, or a relay issue. A sensor would say on a Balboa...most time. Say SN1 or SN3 or SNS.
So I have one with 2 sensors like pictured on the right. It was ran low on water then refilled nothing is air locked. Does that system have a flow switch also?
Not on any Balboa spa Packs. No Pressure Switches
Do you have any error code?
Dry code and sl1 will work if I run the pump on high. But not running heater kicks on then throws it into sleep mode with codes
@@dannywilliams2608 Change out sensor 1. The left sensor. The normal rule is to just replace both.
Lifesmart ls100 tub has sn and oh codes. Is this a temp sensor issue you think?
Its going to be whatever the first code comes up. The other error codes after that are affected by the first one. Have to check the filter all the way to the pump/spa pack. Pull filter and see what happens. Let me know. Is the pump that pushes water thru the heater tube on and running?
I just changed my heat sensor on my Sundance. I"m now getting and SN 3 code and a reading of 106 with cold water. I still don't get what the problem is.
change the other sensor. The high Limit. If you set the temp to 90F and it goes to 90F, does the heater keep heating or does it shut off at 90F?
I need to bench test a Balboa control board that doesn't energize the heater. Can I leave the two temp sensors unconnected from the board or do I need to short across each of them to fool the board into energizing the heater relays. (everything runs fine except not getting 240 across heater when heat is called for.)
Sounds like a relay. Test the 2 heater relays. I have a few videos on that, but it's in our paid member group.
@@VIPPoolsandSpas Thanks for the reply. It turns out one of the three heater relays clicked but failed to close it's contacts. I swapped in the unused pump 2 relay on the same board and that should fix the problem. That saved me from buying an expensive new spa pack. (the proprietary Marquis/Balboa circuit board is obsolete). Are these Zettler relays problematic or do heating elements start drawing too many amps as they age. I replaced the element?
The relays do fail over time. The old ones were "open" relays and you could see if they were working or not.
Hello!
I had my Hydropool Serenity spa turnd off during the winter and about a week ago I cleaned the tub, installed a new filter and filled it up with fresh water, everything was woking fine for a about 6-7 as I could see that my power consumption was above 3 Kwh (I have a 3kw heater, M7) during the time it was working, but the day after i got an SN code so I tested the volts on the heater connections on my Balboa pack (while turned On), and Im getting zero volts.
Ohms reading is around 19 but Amps are harder to measure on the copper leads so havn't tested that yet. However if there is no volts, I suppose the board or relay is bad, right?
It's just weird that the heater was working fine for a few hours and then died!
BTW, the pump is drawing current and working fine. And also there are no visual signs of any damage anywhere.
The SN error code is a sensor issue or flow problem. How is the circ pump or Pump 1 running? Air locks?
@@VIPPoolsandSpas I dont have a circ pump, only a pump with two speeds and there are no air locks or any other issues than no volts nor amps to the heater.
I watched another of your great videos testing the relays with a 9V battery and did the same test on all three relays related to the heater and two of them do make a click sound but there is no continuity, however the third relay seems to be working fine as it has continuity when the battery is connected.
So I guess that the SN code is due to no temperature difference between the sensors that are located on each side of the heater. I have a Balboa GS501 spa pack.
If No volts and no amps to the heater element and the temp is lower than the set point for heat, then its a board issue. Could be a relay, but would have to test further. Send a picture of the circuit board to info@vippools.ca and I'll show you what to test next.
2002ish Balboa with "SN5" error. Everything else seems fine. DO you suggest that I replace the sensor on the left side of the heat tube? Anyway to test/troubleshoot?
SNS maybe?
What spa pack do you have? Balboa ? What series?
@@VIPPoolsandSpas Yes. It's "SnS" and its coleman Maax. The heater is a Balboa, with two sensors.
Hi i just recently replace my pump 1, a hose let go and shorted the pump, i replaced the pump and it worked for a few days now says sns and wont heat, any help would be great, its a balboa system, i measured sensors and they are a few ohms different in readings
Most likely something is going on with pump 1. Turn power off to the tub and then turn back on. See if a different error code comes up before the SNS.
@@VIPPoolsandSpas i thought so, it is a brand new pump but has a bit less flow than the old one, i did reset it a few times it originally worked and got it heated, then it didnt then it worked now its flashing sns , are the balboa control boards reconfigurable to correct for the new pump?
Is the NEW circ pump the same volts as the OLD circ pump?
@@VIPPoolsandSpasyes its all the same, and for the update, local spa shop had a couple good test sensors, and I replaced them one at a time and it turns out it needed both sensors? Im not sure how a shorted pump and two sensors go all at the same time but its up an running fine as of 5 pm today
I drained my tub and left the power on . Now it won't heat. I've checked fuses and clogs. What do you think I did?
Its most likely you burnt out the element. Change the element. Test the volts and amps on the heater element.
Hello I have a cal spas tub with the system the 1 on the right but the heater wrapped around the metal pipe but the sensors on stuck to the outside like the high limit 1 on the left.i am getting a sn code and a lf and oh code on a couple different startups.i water is only 35 degrees out in Chicago now so heaters runs a couple minutes temperature set at 80 then I get sn code and shuts off heat.i can feel the heater and its warm ihave bleed the air at couplers and no air the tub has 2 filters 1 has suction and the other doesn't and on circulation pump no filter doesn't seem like alot of water movement but pump 2 jets flowing. I ohm metered the heater and got 16 ohms online said 9- 11 ohms but some go up to 200 so idk know what to do. I think tomorrow going to take out heat tube and check pump for blockage.at wicks end medically need it to work I just got it from a friend and he said it needed a few heater but I don't think so please help me
Sorry I have a cal spas 6100 with 5.5 xl heater
Wondering if I should buy to 2 new sensors or a heater or both thanks for your help
Is the pump in line with the heater tube pushing water thru it? Whats the error codes again? OH and SN. Whats the other one? IF ?
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Also. Pull the filters, shut power off, then turn power back on. Codes still there?
Hi I appreciate the great video, I have a question going on with my 2008 sundance certa 780 tub. I had a fl1 error code determined it was the circulation pump and replaced it. It cleared the code abd seemed to be working said heating but no hot water was coming into the tub. I decided to pull the heater wires and check for ohms and it was good around 10.2 ohms. The heater was only 18 months old so I suspected it to be okay. I reconnected the heater and now I am getting an sn1 and sn2 both flashing then 00 flashes. I replaced the high limit and temp sensor. Same issue sn1 and sn2 00 each flashing what is my next step? I noticed a very small drip coming from the heater housing and looking through the parts manual there is a high limit thermo disc inside the heater box could this be the issue. Everything else works pump 1 and pump 2 and the new circulation pump is pumping good into the tub.
A SN1 or SN2 is a sensor issue. SN1 is on the left of the heat tube and SN2 is on the right. (if its a Balboa spa pack) not sure why both are showing. Normally you would just see SN and thats it. What spa pack do you have and hot tub brand?
@@VIPPoolsandSpas I have a 2008 sundance certa 780, I have already changed out the high limit sensor and the temp sensor and still get the sn1 and sn2 codes. I let it sit for a day turned it back on you here a small click from the control pack then it blinks sn1 then sn2 then 00 on the control panel. I am lost it blinking both sensors and they both have been replaced. Control board is 6600-087. REV 3.56
Sounds like the circuit board.
@@VIPPoolsandSpas okay that is kinda what I was thinking next but was confused because everything else works pump 1 and 2 and circulation pump all jets and lights work. Top display eveything seems to function fine but not heat since there is the sn1 and sn2 code. Is there a way to test the board?
If you can find an electronics guy or maybe a computer repair guy, they might be able to test it. It's like the TV repair guy, there's probable not many around.
Hi there. I have a dream maker x-150 and just purchased a new Mach 7 board. Worked for a day, but now I have a SB code. The sensor is a 4 prong sensor in the board. 2 sensors then plug into a PVC elbow on the line side of the pump. When I take the sensor off, I get SN error. I can’t get the pump to turn on or do anything. It’s just stuck on SB
Any ideas ?
Disconnect sensor B from the circuit board
and plug back in. Make sure you turn the power off first before you do this.
I did this. Still SB. Brand new board too :/
change sensor B. Its telling you where the problem is.
So sensor A and Sensor B are tied in the same 4- position connector. I got a brand new sensor. Swapped out the old one with the new one and turned the breaker back on. Still says SB. Any ideas ?
What name is the spa pack and the model?
How do I balance my sensors
Cuz I jst replaced the pump cuz a bearing went on it n now it says balance sensor n it's not doing anything like jets r not turning on no sounds coming from it plz help
@@kriskros1976 depends on the spa pack you have. Try turning the power off, wait a few minutes and then turn back on.
I have an HL error and I have no idea how ro fix it, can anyone please help me?
The HL error code could be caused by a few things. A pump not working, Filter clogged, Sensor not working, board issue. What hot tub do you have adn year? Or, what spa pack do you have and topside?
@@VIPPoolsandSpas I have had the fc code a few times for the filter but I change the fliter regularly, it's a cleverspa waikiki 4 person, I don't really know what much about it
I don't know that hot tub very well at all. Contact the CleverSpa® Aftersales at 0151 318 6163
I emptied my hottub for winter and added antifreezer, it’s spring now I clean the tub added new filters and new water ! I plugged it and I don’t hear anything nor see any movement( no priming ) .
on the screen panel all I see it’s the temp fluctuate from 104 to 80 to 90 but the water doesn’t warm. Doesn’t matter what I press on the panel it won’t do anything ! Do you think I’ll have to replace these sensors? Would they be causing this ? I have a balboa 120v vs series
turn power off, unplug the topside (control buttons), then turn back on. If pump comes on, its the topside. Also, any sounds of a "click" when powered up? Humming noise or anything?
Also, see this video. Is it about the same thing? ua-cam.com/video/fr3_L9haMGw/v-deo.html
@@VIPPoolsandSpas when I plug it , I hear a click but that’s it no humming !! I will check what you mentioned above , thanks for the help and I’ll check the link you sent me as well.
I made a small video of my tub
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@@VIPPoolsandSpas no it’s not the same thing ! I press everything on the control buttons and it won’t do anything it’ll just continue showing me different temps !
@@VIPPoolsandSpas I disconnected the top side (control buttons) and plugged it to power , I hear the click (relay) but that’s it . No humming I don’t hear the pump
I have the heating tube and motherboard on the right “balboa”?
I have Sn code
I removed the filter thinking it was a flow issue and still got the code.
Initially when the tub is booted up i get:
18
60
06
24
Pr
Please help!
When you first turn on the breaker to power the hot tub up, it will go thru it's programming. Not sure what those numbers are but the PR is for PURGE. Could there be a error code right before the SN code? HR ? SN is a sensor issue but doesn't mean it's the sensor. Normally it will tell you if it's sensor A or B. Make sure nothing is blocking the filter from where the filters sit all the way to the pump. Flow issue or a sensor issue.
@@VIPPoolsandSpas nothing is blocking the filter. In fact I removed the filter for a few boot ups just to see if it was a flow issue.
No other codes before Sn
Any ideas?
@@bdeemter1234 change sensor. If it's the sensor, more then likely it will only one of them. Make sure to order the left one because it's longer and can be used on both sides. All info is on the sensor. White tag.
@@VIPPoolsandSpas thank you. One sensor is reading 33k ohms and the other is reading 29k ohms in same temp water. I just didn’t know the acceptable tolerance between them. Is that too much?
@@bdeemter1234 not sure how your testing the sensor. You can't test it where it plugs into the board and the other end there no way of testing to see if working or not. Change the longer sensor and if that doesn't work it will be a board issue.
I have a balboa pack all my pumps work after I start up manually when heat comes on it goes to DR error an turns off but not the breaker then when I reset the power and let it boot up by pressing the power button after about 2 minutes it trips the breaker… I’m confused please help
I also discontinued the heater I breaker still tripped
Could it possibly be the circuit board
Sounds like board.
Thanks for the reply thats what I thought do u think it’s a relay??
Not Sure. Weird that you would get the DR and then a trip and then no trip if the element is disconnected. DR is a sensor or flow issue and the trip sounds like the element. Always easier when Im right there testing it.
Hello
I got cal spa
Error message Sb , what does it mean?
Sensor “B” is not working. What hot tub do you have?
@@VIPPoolsandSpas
Cal spa model # L-07-E860LXMA-60
@@Daboob_Family Sensor B
Do you have a link or recommend one to purchase that sensor
@@Daboob_Family there's a tag on the sensor with the part number you'll need to order one. If there's no tag, let me know.
What about a Sn 3 code?
Sensor is staying open or is staying closed. Depends on the spa pack on with sensor you have (AKA: flow switch or pressure switch)
My hot tub heats to about 70 80 degrees but wont go any higher no error codes
test the heater element? does pump one run all the time? what is the temp set for??
@@VIPPoolsandSpas brand new heating element pump one does run and it's set for 104 degrees
It's a master spa the heat light is on until you turn jet 2 on and boost jet
@@brandonjohnson9340 can you test the heater element?
@@VIPPoolsandSpas yes 120 on each leg