Kobe said himself that T-Mac was his biggest and most difficult competition. He said it was just something about T-Mac that pushed him. It's similar to boxing where styles make fights. T-Mac just had a style of play that pushed Kobe to his limits.
They had the same skillset. Especially on the offensive end. Only difference there was Mcgrady was 3 inches taller and just if not more athletic. Defensive end is another story. Kobe is one of the most underrated defenders ever.
@@SuperBeerbood yeah, Kobe was definitely more creative around the basket and setting up his own shot. McGrady kinda relied mostly on his athleticism to jump over guys.
McGrady was the only player I ever saw play live against Kobe that seemed to be on his level physically. The true separation between these two was in the subtle aspects of the game. This video does a fantastic job of showing the complexity of Kobe's game, and his arsenal of techniques. The shoulder fakes, footwork, ball fakes and all the other little cloak and dagger tricks he used on opponents are what allowed him to stay at such a high level even when his athleticism began to fade. McGrady, as freaky as he was, never had the "little things" as squared away as Kobe. Still loved watching him play though as he was a top-10 pure scorer of all-time.
Everything got removed i seen a monster dunk Richard Jefferson did on someone a couple weeks ago and they called a offensive foul ...nba is for sorriest nowadays
Rare as hell to see Hill AND T-Mac together since Grant was mostly in suits after he signed. Man, they could've been something! Not to downplay Shaq's importance, but as much as he helped Kobe, Kobe helped Shaq. They Lakers had ZERO dribble creators besides Kobe. Closest thing, Lue or George? LOL Shaq's greatest contribution to Kobe was he took up to 2 maybe even 3 defenders at a time and allowed Kobe to play what he is best at, 1 on 1 basketball. But at the same time, when Shaq needed a bail out out of triple teams, Kobe was there to either attack or dish to wing shooters like Fox, Horry, Rice.
there was a point where you could say t-mac was better than kobe, and best in the league, had he not gotten injured, we'd be talking one of the all-time greats, and certainly at least a top 10 scorer all time. He was simply amazing in his prime
***** he was never better then kobe. His best year in 2002 when he was averaging 32 6 and 6 kobe was averaging 30 7 and 6. and that was already when kobe was averaging 28 6 and 6 before
+Sam Yancy - leauge i built for shooters to exel and very untalented players like demar derozan and james harden , both are bums and get 35% of their points of free throws
I knew I wasn't the only one who felt their shots are just different. I think it has to do with them having such long arms so their natural release is much higher.
McGradu was right up there with Kobe in his prime no doubt. I remember as a kid being hella salty when I'd see how many points McGrady would get in a night/season avg. - wanting Kobe to up him. He was nasty. Orlando was prime T-Mac for sure too, once he went to Houston it was already the start of the decline. He could score with the best of them. Nasty pure scorer
Gosh, I miss Chick Hearn..... just listening to his voice calling the proceedings is amazing. Young T-mac Vs A young Dynasty Lakers... Beautiful........
I just came from a VC vs Kobe and Shaq video lol I'm going to miss these guys. That's why I think we should hold these guys close to our hearts. Because once they are gone. All we have are these videos.
TM was smooth as always and had great athleticism and is as long as Lebron. What's really noticeable to me was how fricken un-stoppable Kobe was that day..
No one is the same as Kobe. T mac has no ring no mvp both in regular season and all star I think he is not even close but I think he is close to Penny Hardaway.
***** If that's how you want to put it Jordan had Scottie and Rodman to get about 10 boards a night for him and defensive stops every player had a little help an Shaq didn't run that team every year and every game. Plus T mac had Shaq in Orlando for his first like what 7 years.
The only thing that brought Kobe's averages down was his rookie season when he only played 13 minutes a game. Allen Iverson, Lebron and MJ were all starters in their rookie season and averaged 35-40 minutes a game. So if kobe averaged 35-40 minutes in his rookie season his averages would be higher than Allen Iverson. And kobe is gonna be in the hall of fame and Allen Iverson is not gonna be in the hall of fame! Remember if kobe played 35-40 minutes in his rookie season his averages would be higher than Iverson and prob would have averages 28-29 points a game if he was a starter in his rookie season. But kobe was on the 3rd shift cause he played on the lakers
Haider Shakeel He gained 3 rings because of the Lakers and Shaq,Kobe is even the 1st all time in missed shots. Can you imagine if he didn't goes to LA,but stay in Charlotte? Iverson did what he did playing in bad teams,carrying one of them in Finals, when Kobe has a bad team he made it barely the PO.
***** Kobe is the 1st all-time in FG Attempts.. Without having teammates like Shaq,Odom or Gasol in his prime. Nobody think Kobe could be able to carry the '01 Sixers to the Finals like AI did,so.. Iverson>Kobe
Yes,the same Sixers with just one scorer against 2 Hall of Famers+ the best coach since Auerbach. Sixers '01 became worse since Mutombo arrive,but he was necessary since Ratliff was out for the season and no,he wasn't a factor against Shaq,the real winner of that series. You really think Kobe can receives what he got playing for the Hornets? I love Kobe too,but what he wins he did it with a big man inside the paint,that's a fact.He was lucky to find the Big Fella in his team. Put AI in LA and Kobe in Philly and at least Iverdson could be get a ring,but even if Kobe was amazing nobody think he could be able to carry those Sixers to the Finals. Again,nothing against him,but they don't play in equals situations.
You making a lot of stupid comments lol... Kobe wouldn't have avg more then Allen his rookie season if he played a full 48 min a game, his game was simply not polished enough yet... And you have to be a fool if you think Allen Iverson isn't going to the hall of fame...
McGrady was really good. He could score at will, but Kobe has better footwork fundamentals as well as the scoring ability and was better than McGrady defensively. Kobe was the more complete player but McGrady could really score that rock. This is like a modern day comparison between( Carmelo Anthony and lebron) or (Kevin Durand and lebron
Lebron is #3 with 25.9 today as we speak. Davis is #4 with 24.6 ppg. Westbrook and Harden both average 27 ppg. Kobe averaged 35.4 in 06...The NBA kinda sucks today.
sonofaballer96 George melo and kd were injured. not to mention that now a days teams push team basketball a lot more than the 2000's or whatever you want to call that era lol
Tmac was the original Kobe challenger not Lebron. If it wasn't for Tmac's injury that whole Kobe Lebron comparison would not come up. McGrady was a beast
Ladies and gentlemen! This is real basketball with real DEFENSE and HAND CHECKING #DifferentEra #Slashers #RealBasketBall #HandChecking #BeforeAnalyticsMatteredToYou
If tmac practiced regularly to keep away from injury. He would've been the greatest to ever play. Hands down. Better than kobe, jordan, Jerry west, magic, ANYONE. his time in the league healthy he was one of the best in the league and he was still young when he was healthy so he didn't hit PRIME TMAC, then with actual work and not just his PURE TALENT he would've been the greatest
I truly believe that had McGrady wouldn't have had those injuries, he could've played on an elite level for so many more years! Too bad surgeries and back injuries had to Ruin that :/ miss TMac and Kobe going head to head!
NBA Live was crazy as hell anyway, I created a player and didn't up the stats (all 50) and I always use him to fade away 3 pointer like it's a piece of cake.
I'll tell you a story. In dynasty fantasy draft mode of NBA Live 2001, I set my team to pick last on every round. I got Kobe in the first round. TMac was still available in the 2nd round as the 60th overall pick.
Young Kobe's cross over was so damn deadly tho!!!
Kobe said himself that T-Mac was his biggest and most difficult competition. He said it was just something about T-Mac that pushed him. It's similar to boxing where styles make fights. T-Mac just had a style of play that pushed Kobe to his limits.
They had the same skillset. Especially on the offensive end. Only difference there was Mcgrady was 3 inches taller and just if not more athletic. Defensive end is another story. Kobe is one of the most underrated defenders ever.
In terms of scorer I would say so, but we also couldn't deny the fact that Kobe was always better defender and playmaker than McGrady
@@SuperBeerbood yeah, Kobe was definitely more creative around the basket and setting up his own shot. McGrady kinda relied mostly on his athleticism to jump over guys.
Kobe said LeBron was his biggest competitor.
@@SuperBeerbood McGrady was the better playmaker and better ball handler.
McGrady was the only player I ever saw play live against Kobe that seemed to be on his level physically. The true separation between these two was in the subtle aspects of the game. This video does a fantastic job of showing the complexity of Kobe's game, and his arsenal of techniques. The shoulder fakes, footwork, ball fakes and all the other little cloak and dagger tricks he used on opponents are what allowed him to stay at such a high level even when his athleticism began to fade. McGrady, as freaky as he was, never had the "little things" as squared away as Kobe. Still loved watching him play though as he was a top-10 pure scorer of all-time.
+Herman Melville Agreed. T-Mac had the talent to be a Hall of Famer, no doubt about it.
Well said
Well this is simply not true at all
it seems that way because scoring came so easy for t-mac
The little things like Prime Shaq and no nagging injuries?
The SG era !!!
Kobe, TMac, Iverson, VC, Ray Allen, Allan Houston... yeeeeeesh
kg21mack and vince
VC = Vince lol
lol I'm legally blind ..lol mybad didn't see that
Now we're in a pg era
Kobe and tmac were so explosive off the dribble and excellent mid range shooters
Just by looking at this game, it looked much more physical than it does today
MrZahsome yeah but its harder for players to score 30 ppg while staying efficient, cough westbrook
they actually made contact
and this era was tame compared to the 80s/early 90s
25 ppg... 9th in the NBA. My goodness.
Good times my friend
This was the best some odd years in the league. So many amazing players.
A.i was number one all those years
Yup right after hand checking was removed. Guards and forwards who grew up on hand checking had feasts those early years
Everything got removed i seen a monster dunk Richard Jefferson did on someone a couple weeks ago and they called a offensive foul ...nba is for sorriest nowadays
Rare as hell to see Hill AND T-Mac together since Grant was mostly in suits after he signed. Man, they could've been something!
Not to downplay Shaq's importance, but as much as he helped Kobe, Kobe helped Shaq. They Lakers had ZERO dribble creators besides Kobe. Closest thing, Lue or George? LOL Shaq's greatest contribution to Kobe was he took up to 2 maybe even 3 defenders at a time and allowed Kobe to play what he is best at, 1 on 1 basketball. But at the same time, when Shaq needed a bail out out of triple teams, Kobe was there to either attack or dish to wing shooters like Fox, Horry, Rice.
Just Imagine if TMAC coulda stayed healthy..one of the premier talents of his era...HOF'er for sure..
Is isn't he a hof'er still tho? Yeah he was like the OG Kevin Durant /LBJ
samuel you could make the argument-BUT idk man..
Ole Boy about what? the nba, or the rest of the shit?
I don't see why the nba should let his injuries keep him out the HOF... He's basically the Bernard King of his era
Kev Houston Exactly.
there was a point where you could say t-mac was better than kobe, and best in the league, had he not gotten injured, we'd be talking one of the all-time greats, and certainly at least a top 10 scorer all time. He was simply amazing in his prime
Stop
Brandon Brooks no man, he was getting scoring titles and just lighting the league up
***** he was never better then kobe. His best year in 2002 when he was averaging 32 6 and 6 kobe was averaging 30 7 and 6. and that was already when kobe was averaging 28 6 and 6 before
Brandon Brooks you just proved his point you idiot. You contradicted yourself.
sonofaballer96 no, TMAC at his best was equal to not even prime kobe yet
@*2:58*
Goddamn McGrady's jumper was clean.
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*****
Indeed.
+HPM Royale TMac jumpr was always butter smooth. Thats why he was so cheesy in 2k
25 ppg is 9th in the nba? lol 25 ppg now is like 2nd in the nba
It was alot of scoring monsters back then
In the month of November in that season? Not too surprising
Caleb Lopez finally a sensible comment
Dat Kobe Fan This NBA was so much better so many great scorers
+DreDaDon__ It's not like guys becoming more versatile is a bad thing.
Notice how they foul hard when someone drives into the paint. Imagine curry driving in back then he would get destroyed.
why curry gotta be in it😂
+MICHEAL BLACKSON I'm just using him as example
+Sam Yancy - leauge i built for shooters to exel and very untalented players like demar derozan and james harden , both are bums and get 35% of their points of free throws
Imagine if Gilbert Arenas used a gun during games. #NBAIsSoSoft.
+EB123 did u just say demar and harden are untalented wtf 😂😂😂
Love watching Kobe pass... One of the greatest passers of all time, just never did it.
What?
I hope you're a troll lol
dumbass just trolling
So is Jordan
Never did it? Bro he’s 2nd all time in assists for shooting guards
man if grant hill would have been healthy this video could have been a finals game
How many games would it go to in the Finals
Wow!!!! He had won the championship
Use to love seeing them battle
Something about Tmacs shot was just so fluent. Durant has it down too.
+Tyson Rees Oh, and the goat of course
I knew I wasn't the only one who felt their shots are just different. I think it has to do with them having such long arms so their natural release is much higher.
McGradu was right up there with Kobe in his prime no doubt. I remember as a kid being hella salty when I'd see how many points McGrady would get in a night/season avg. - wanting Kobe to up him. He was nasty. Orlando was prime T-Mac for sure too, once he went to Houston it was already the start of the decline. He could score with the best of them. Nasty pure scorer
Ha I was the same way remember those days good times !
He was better than Kobe in the early 2000s tbh. During his prime he was unstoppable
+Nishanth Raj I wouldn't say better he was close tho. They actually played 1v1 with each other according to Kobe he smoked McGrady beat him 3-0
Nishanth Raj tmac wasn't better than Kobe
@@NishanthRajiwtbawlbBetter ?
Kobe could score and defend
Gosh, I miss Chick Hearn..... just listening to his voice calling the proceedings is amazing. Young T-mac Vs A young Dynasty Lakers... Beautiful........
7:17 I could be wrong, but could some1 tell me... isn't it goaltending if u "block" a shot after it hits the backboard?
yes
Someone show this to D angelo Russell
Tmac was like a 6'8 Kobe
I just came from a VC vs Kobe and Shaq video lol I'm going to miss these guys. That's why I think we should hold these guys close to our hearts. Because once they are gone. All we have are these videos.
Rip kobe
I love these throwback videos
I remember just about every one of these games
T Mac Looked like he had a tough time defending Kobe :(
+Delicate Beats believe me when i say this, A LOT! of people did.
Delicate Beats no
He was tired from tryna score every possession basically for them...Kobe was in cruise control cuz he had way more help...
Johnathan Bennett Sure helps with Shaq down low.
justin mercado no
Rest In Peace Kobe #8 #24
patrick ewing in a magic jersey wtf
Lol one of his last years in the league
Seeing these 2 go head to head back in the early 2000's were fun to watch
2k16 I beg of you. Please give me Orlando Magic Tracy McGrady
+Lord Swagimaru In these jerseys please
+Lord Swagimaru you get the VC and T-mac raptors..
Theres a 96 rated diamond magic tracy mcgrady but hes not out yet.
The Attitude Era of the NBA
i wonder who's jersey there gonna retire... #1 Hardaway or #1 McGrady
DJ Jon804 Remixes both will get retired #1
McGrady was better so it might be his.
sonofaballer96 tmac didnt do anything in the playoffs with the magic tho so who knows.
IWreckLobbies He still was one of their best players ever.
Domini478 Penny still went to the finals, got swept, but still got there
2 of the most talented offensive players to ever play
This is probably my favorite video
Kobe and Tmac Vs Wade and LBJ on their early age. Who will win?
+LetsPlayFair kobe and tmac
GDs Highlights dude u have to do the Kobe Arenas duel!!
Goodness, I didn't realize how lazy Tracy's defense was back then. It got way better, but in this game, it was completely lazy.
Kevin Jones He didn't make a single All-Defensive team. That's why Kobe was better than him. He was a more complete SG.
@@PeterJustGames Tracy was a good shot blocker
TM was smooth as always and had great athleticism and is as long as Lebron. What's really noticeable to me was how fricken un-stoppable Kobe was that day..
*everyday
2001 KOBE BEAST!
Dats why I admire Kobe's durability through out these years he can still compete in a high level.
R.I.P. Chick hern...Celtic fan here
My 2 favorite NBA legends.
damn i miss those years, long live mcgrady!!
there was a game where they both scored 38, someone needs to put that online
Kobe wope that behind he would of won that duel even without shaq.
No one is the same as Kobe. T mac has no ring no mvp both in regular season and all star I think he is not even close but I think he is close to Penny Hardaway.
***** If that's how you want to put it Jordan had Scottie and Rodman to get about 10 boards a night for him and defensive stops every player had a little help an Shaq didn't run that team every year and every game. Plus T mac had Shaq in Orlando for his first like what 7 years.
Natsu .D. Uzamaki FAIL!!!
I didn't know that but watever. Im out this B Román Yáñez Lol i know Im done
but they would've lost the game.. Shaq had 30+ pts but LA couldn't pull away..
Hands down the best year range of basketball. All of the legends were still balling and all of the fye niggas were young. Battle of the eras fr fr.
RIP...to the Great Chick Hearns.
Now this was a duel!
Tracy Mcgrady is a Hall of Famer no doubt.
Best one on one matchup this era
whats the name of that nba theme song in the beginning !?!?!?!?!?
Its a less instrument version of the NBA on FSN Theme
thank you sooooooooooooooo much, i have been looking for this shit for soo long.
damn kinda crazy how AI went through all that while driving to the rack. Kobe was a Bruiser Slicing through the D. Like a champ ngaf.
Kobe & T-Mac was only 22 & 21 years old here smh crazy how good they was already
Kobe said Mcgrady was the hardest player he ever faced and Mcgrady said Kobe was the hardest competition as well.
The only thing that brought Kobe's averages down was his rookie season when he only played 13 minutes a game. Allen Iverson, Lebron and MJ were all starters in their rookie season and averaged 35-40 minutes a game. So if kobe averaged 35-40 minutes in his rookie season his averages would be higher than Allen Iverson. And kobe is gonna be in the hall of fame and Allen Iverson is not gonna be in the hall of fame! Remember if kobe played 35-40 minutes in his rookie season his averages would be higher than Iverson and prob would have averages 28-29 points a game if he was a starter in his rookie season. But kobe was on the 3rd shift cause he played on the lakers
Haider Shakeel Keep dreaming.
Haider Shakeel He gained 3 rings because of the Lakers and Shaq,Kobe is even the 1st all time in missed shots. Can you imagine if he didn't goes to LA,but stay in Charlotte? Iverson did what he did playing in bad teams,carrying one of them in Finals, when Kobe has a bad team he made it barely the PO.
***** Kobe is the 1st all-time in FG Attempts.. Without having teammates like Shaq,Odom or Gasol in his prime. Nobody think Kobe could be able to carry the '01 Sixers to the Finals like AI did,so.. Iverson>Kobe
Yes,the same Sixers with just one scorer against 2 Hall of Famers+ the best coach since Auerbach. Sixers '01 became worse since Mutombo arrive,but he was necessary since Ratliff was out for the season and no,he wasn't a factor against Shaq,the real winner of that series. You really think Kobe can receives what he got playing for the Hornets? I love Kobe too,but what he wins he did it with a big man inside the paint,that's a fact.He was lucky to find the Big Fella in his team. Put AI in LA and Kobe in Philly and at least Iverdson could be get a ring,but even if Kobe was amazing nobody think he could be able to carry those Sixers to the Finals. Again,nothing against him,but they don't play in equals situations.
You making a lot of stupid comments lol... Kobe wouldn't have avg more then Allen his rookie season if he played a full 48 min a game, his game was simply not polished enough yet... And you have to be a fool if you think Allen Iverson isn't going to the hall of fame...
Kobe is the goat
At 1:05 the commentator said "It's not a wise idea to try to block a Shaquille O'Neal"... does that mean that there are more...then 1 Shaq...???
McGrady was really good. He could score at will, but Kobe has better footwork fundamentals as well as the scoring ability and was better than McGrady defensively. Kobe was the more complete player but McGrady could really score that rock. This is like a modern day comparison between( Carmelo Anthony and lebron) or (Kevin Durand and lebron
25ppg is 9th in the NBA. In today's NBA 25ppg is like 2nd or 3rd... Lame
Lebron is #3 with 25.9 today as we speak. Davis is #4 with 24.6 ppg. Westbrook and Harden both average 27 ppg. Kobe averaged 35.4 in 06...The NBA kinda sucks today.
sonofaballer96 It ain't that bad, KD averaged 32 just last year
Yeah... But Melo and KD who are the leagues best scorers have both been injured this season
Nick Harris KD is a scoring machine but he isn't the best I've seen. I think it's crazy that OKC has the two best scorers in the NBA.
sonofaballer96 George melo and kd were injured. not to mention that now a days teams push team basketball a lot more than the 2000's or whatever you want to call that era lol
avg 25 points was the 9th back in 2001 lol
I said the same thing, lol. It was really early in the season at that point though.
Demar is 9th at 23ppg so nothing's really changed
Chris Carter 25 is a pretty big difference than 23, lol.
t-mac and kobe = body and style,is the real basketball player (two player the best ever during NBA history)
rest in peace Chick Hearn. Glad I witnessed this NBA as a kid
T-Mac deserves Hall of Fame honors.... come on.
Awwwww dude. This is sick
The lakers commentators sound like they're in a boring class 😭😂
If only g hill was healthy they woulda had t Mac and hill and they had Ewing on this team. That's pretty good but hill got injured I feel bad for him
Anybody know a channel where they upload tmac highlights ?? Besides icesco
bmacpolland
T-Mac and Kobe were the best players to watch when they played against each other
My favorite Lakers team back when i just learned the sport called Basketball.
T-Mac should've never left Toronto. I know he regrets that.
At the 4:35 mark kobe made that same spin jumper in his 61 point game vs the Knicks
Pierce, Arenas, AI, Kidd, Kobe, T-Mac, Dirk, Duncan, Francis, Jason Williams, Marbury + Nash - those were the days :(
i use to love this two go at it t mac and kobe
Didn't want this to end this was epic and verryyy intense both players wanted to win?
Tmac was the original Kobe challenger not Lebron. If it wasn't for Tmac's injury that whole Kobe Lebron comparison would not come up. McGrady was a beast
The commentary 👍👍👍👍👍
They played this game on September 11th, 2001.
wrong November 11, 2001
Ladies and gentlemen! This is real basketball with real DEFENSE and HAND CHECKING #DifferentEra #Slashers #RealBasketBall #HandChecking #BeforeAnalyticsMatteredToYou
punching someone and holding isnt defense unc
Ill take. A tmac in his prime over kobe they should put t mac in 2k
Saul Carrasco they already have before you comment that but good new they good 2000 raptors and 2008 rockets
Congrats they did , the 2007 rockets is on nba 2k16
I'd take a healthy tmac over Lebron not Kobe or Jordan tho
+Peppa Pig Lebron brings more to the table than tmac
If tmac practiced regularly to keep away from injury. He would've been the greatest to ever play. Hands down. Better than kobe, jordan, Jerry west, magic, ANYONE. his time in the league healthy he was one of the best in the league and he was still young when he was healthy so he didn't hit PRIME TMAC, then with actual work and not just his PURE TALENT he would've been the greatest
nah
Kobe owned Tmac in one on one
what kicks are Kobe wearing
damn i dont know how they didnt call carry on kobe at 5:49
Dat Kobe Fan They didn't call carries back then
Trey Ingram players get away with all type of shit still
Dat Kobe Fan his hand was on the side of the ball anyway
Dat Kobe Fan carry is when the hand is under the ball
I truly believe that had McGrady wouldn't have had those injuries, he could've played on an elite level for so many more years! Too bad surgeries and back injuries had to Ruin that :/ miss TMac and Kobe going head to head!
I used to love using tmac on live 07 nigga was a beast
He was unfair.
NBA Live was crazy as hell anyway, I created a player and didn't up the stats (all 50) and I always use him to fade away 3 pointer like it's a piece of cake.
Back when the competition requires blood, sweat and tears.
A Young TMAC DAMN!!!!
I'll tell you a story. In dynasty fantasy draft mode of NBA Live 2001, I set my team to pick last on every round. I got Kobe in the first round. TMac was still available in the 2nd round as the 60th overall pick.
+Marv'n Aff I got Antoine Walker and Peja Stojakovic in the 3rd and 4th rounds
Nice and with Chick Hearn commentary!
Kobe is from the same era as T Mac Iverson Vince Carter Paul Pierce Kevin Garnett Ray Allen Steve Nash. Legend of Legends #BlackMamba
Goddamn kobe looking like a NFL receiver with those hops at 6:32 major ups.
Man I am not a Kobe fan but Kobe was VERY good and the closest player to Jordan imo (they are both scoring machines)
My 2 favorite players to watch go head to head
T-mac was something special he can score too easy on anybody too much talent when he was healthy
i wanna see kobe and shaq matched up against tmac and the great wall
Two of my fave and two of the best
Watching these 2 were like watching Sub Zero vs Scorpion
If Duncan and Mcgrady where together they would've given us some good highlights
THE BEST TIMES IN NBA HISTORY!!!!
We need more tmac
the problem with t mac is lack of physicality he is not used of being banged