My favourite “secret sequel” is for two games that are vastly different from each-other: What Remains of Edith Finch, and The Unfinished Swan. In Edith Finch we learn through exploring the house and the family history how each family member over the last ~100 years died, with the exception of one who just straight up disappeared. Investigating their room shows that they loved to draw and paint, painted a story about a magic paintbrush that they used to draw a doorway and walk through it, and left behind not only yellow paint footprints (like the kind left by the titular swan in The Unfinished Swan), but also left behind drawings of the Kings logo from TUS. Unless you’ve played TUS before playing WRoEF you likely wouldn’t be able to put these two things together, but the suggestion is that it’s the missing brother from WRoEF who walks into his own painting and becomes the King in TUS.
Woah that's cool. I played WRoEF a while ago and it was such a different game compared to what I normally would play. I had a hard time enjoying it because of that. I need to replay it
@@kadenfauble the story that connects it to TUS is towards the end; it’s up in the tower portion of the house. I think it’s the second to last story before the end of the game.
DLC to Control was absolutely next level. Game was scary at first. I got used to it. Then the DLC comes along. Straight up turned into Horror genre. 10/10 would replay multiple times. Was amazing
@@pikybayl No it wasn't a horror game. The dlc was horror-esque. Dlc turned it to horror genre, is what I said. A bit of embillishment. It was the themes of psychological horror and darkness that were great. I mean, Alan Wake is literally a survival horror. Glad they took the approach that they did with the dlc, it was very fitting
@@pikybaylcontrol is horror adjacent. It's not a horror game but it is enough of a cousin to it to be discussed in the horror community. I mean the whole concept of objects of power and the FBC is based loosely on the SCP Foundation
@@OversoulGamingtrue, game has a lot of psychological logical horror elements. Sure it’s not a traditional sense of horror and it’s not necessarily designed for horror. But the elements are still there, if we tone down the power and knock down some lights. The theme can easily fit into the horror theme, I mean just look at the fungus side mission portion of the game that alone is scary as heck!
@@MakiseRumiHoffman in the DLC creeped me out. Control is definitely horror, walking around the bureau while they chant that poem raises my hair everytime.
I'm surprised you didn't mention how Doom is a sequel to Commander Keen, which is a sequel to Wolfenstein. The hero of Wolfenstein, BJ Blazkowicz, is the grandfather to Billy Blaze, aka Commander Keen, who is the father of Doomguy.
As a kid playing Jak II Renegade i was absolutely blown away by the time travel aspect and Although it tells you in the beginning that they are transported somewhere it isn't until later in the game when you see Samos' hut and realise that the beautiful green hills and beaches from the first game have been completely destroyed and it's now a barren wasteland. oh and somehow a younger version of Jak exists in that world which means that he is sent from the future to the past for protection only to get sent to the future in a never ending cycle. Man I love video games
Kind of reminds me of Lon-Lon Ranch being in Ocarina of Time & Breath of the Wild's Ruined Ranch in the Zelda series, just on a MUCH larger scale...I can't re for sure, but I think Broken Sword also had that "wait, THIS ruined heap used to be THAT beautiful/happy place?!?" twist, but I forget...it's been too lon-long~
I played control knowing absolutely nothing about Alan wake, though if I'm being honest I've looked it up since and it doesn't seem as fun or interesting to me as control was, maybe I'm wrong
I actually played and LOVED Project Snowblind as a kid, but as I got older I forgot the name and eventually decided the game was a fever dream inspired by my love for the Red Faction games. Thank you so much for solving a lifelong mystery ❤❤❤
I remember getting this from Blockbuster and playing the crap out of it for a whole month! (I rented it many times in a row) Loved the alt fire for the pistol!
I remember buying it cause it sounded cool and mysterious, lol. The OG Xbox days were amazing. First ever game I bought on it was Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3
When I first heard of nier automata I didn't think I would enjoy it but I finally decided to try it. I ended up enjoying it so much, especially the combat system that I gave myself acute carpal tunnel syndrome, and I loved every minute of it. 😂
I had a copy of Nier: Automata delivered to my address on launch day, under a random person's name. I hadn't heard of the game before let alone ordered it for my PS, I buy digital only. I asked my neighbours if it was theirs, it wasn't. I tried to return it but the company told me not to bother. And, I ended up having a mental gaming experience I never would have had due to it being a genre of gaming I had no prior interest in.
Hearing about Control, but not knowing it was a remedy game at first was crazy. Then finally buying it and seeing the Alan Wake stuff in it, I lost my mind 😩 I already have AW2 installed
I thought one of these may have been the fact that Surgeon Simulator is a sequel to I Am Bread because at the end of the game, the guy crashes his car when the bread comes to life which is something he suspected after a bit but finally saw it. That guy who crashed is who you operate on in Surgeon Simulator.
10: Control - Alan Wake 9: Drakengard - Nier 8: Project Snowblind - Deus Ex 7: Shadow of the Colossus - Ico 6: Marathon - Parthwasys into Darkness 5: Halo - Marathon (qustionable) 4: Code Vein - God Eater 3: Mother 3 - Earthbound 2: Vagrant Story & Final fanasty XII - Final Fantasy Tactics 1: Dark Souls - King's Field
@@CHESS-MAN2491deathloop connects through the world itself. The island it takes place on is said to be at the end of the known world in dishonored. Along with a dunwall sign that can be found as well as a couple weapons in deathloop that are in dishonored. Not sure how prey ties in though
fun fact: Cortana was actually featured on a marathon site in the form of the "Cortana Letters" and multiple sentences used in those letters became some of the more iconic quotes that Cortana says in the Halo games and trailers. an example of this is the monologue she has in the halo 3 announcement trailer
For the case of Code Vein being within the God Eater universe, is not just the fact that the mist around it is protecting the humans within from Aragami threats, there is a scene when the mist got temporarily disable with a group of Revenants nearby, where they apparently got mauled by the Aragami, Dythus Pita. There's also the DLC which features a boss Lost that has similar moveset with God Eater's Hannibal.
Awesome picks, especially appreciated the mention of Ivalice. Just one thing though - Code Vein is actually a prequel, not a sequel. We know this because the Oragami are still being referred to as "Horrors", and I'm fairly certain that there are other indicators as to it being shortly after the Crisis occurred - like a good century I believe before Fenrir is even established. Some people have even speculated that Revenants are the precursors to the Blood Squadron seen in GE2.
It could also just be a completely different timeline where they found an alternate method to fight the Aragami without making god eaters, in case the Revenants are actually able to fight the Aragami (which I still find questionable, with how bullshit oracle cells are... then again the parasite is also extremely bullshit)
I freaking loved Allan Wake when it was released. It's a pleasure seeing the game gaining the attention it deserves today and i hope we see more games in the future 'cos horror games are kinda vanishing, i miss that ps2 era when they were abundant.
Much like Final Fantasy, most of the Tales Of series are not directly connected to each other. However a very easy connection to miss is Symphonia being a prequel to Phantasia. The more recent Berseria and Zestiria connection isn't much of a secret though.
Symphonia was my first Tales game. For years, I wondered what the name of the tree was, but then I played Phantasia. In hindsight, of course it was "Yggdrasil".
Max Payne could be canon to Alan Wake and Control in a multiverse style. Dylan said in one of his dreams he saw a detective in two realities, one where he was fictional and one where he was real and went by another name. Sounds like a reference to Payne himself and his fictional counterpart in Alan Wake’s books that was recently made real and looks and acts exactly like Payne, Alex Casey.
I'm really glad that Kings field is in the number 1slot. KF IV is my favourite PS2 Game, and one of my favourites of all time, so I'm glad it's got even a little bit of light, considering it's pretty obscure.
Now i know why i like ff xii so much. I told everyone i knew about vagrant story. It was in my top 5 personal favorite games for a long while. I consider ff xii my favorite ff game, more so because of the mechanics that they brought, but also the art style and the story, though i know a lot of people didnt. Never crossed my mind they were related in anyway, but i now feel, i guess, nostalgic...ally...ish....knowing 2 games i enjoyed more than my friends are linked. This is why i watch this channel.
I absolutely love this channel, the games you have watched the credits roll on is just crazy ,I am 49 and have seen my share but my god your knowledge of all these deferent games is just amazing and a joy for me to listen too, I am fairly new to UA-cam ,only 10 months as I started PC gaming this year and it has really opened my eyes to just how amazing that platform is.
Shadow Hearts was a sequel to Koudelka... and I also have a vague memory that the Deception games were in the same Universe. Older series but my friends eyes would bug out when I told them that
Minor correction, there is no main character named Cain in any Drakengard or NieR game. There is Caim with an m and Kainé. Both pronounced completely differently and not even remotely close to Cain. However Caim is named after a demon in the Ars Goetia.
THANK YOU I was hoping someone would mention this. I was wracking my brain thinking, "Who the fuck is named Kainé in Drakengard?" It didn't even occur to me that they were mixing up her name with Caim's!
I LOVE the Ivalice Alliance project games. FFT, Vagrant Story, and FFXII are the three big ones, but there's more games in the series and I suggest people look into it if it interests them. Final Fantasy Tactics on the PS1 was my first Final Fantasy game, so I'm always excited when I see another game taking place in that world.
@@MashpumpkinWas given the impression that it was more like an alternate dimension/alternate timeline than directly part of the Ivalice cannon. It is my favorite raid series in FFXIV though, still working on getting all of the Ivalician gear sets for my glamour.
Sam Lake and team over at Remedy are DAMN good at worldbuilding. When you get down to the deetz with everything going on in those games, it's mindblowing. And Control is so fresh and original. Spider-Man 2 ended up being one of my favorite games of all time; a masterpiece, in my book. But Alan Wake 2 is my most anticipated game of the year and I cannot wait until Friday!!!
Alan Wake 2 is soooo good. I do have my complaints, but the originality and creativity blew me away. If I'm being honest, though, I had more fun with Spider-Man. I don't think it's necessarily a better game. AW2's creativity blows it away, hands down. But, and this is unusual coming from me because I almost always prefer drama over action, I wish AW2 had more straightforward third person shooter sections. Just a little more gunplay, like the first game, while keeping all of the new and fantastic survival horror elements for the rest of the game.@@crazziemonkke
Yeah me too.. And lore wise and in-universe logic wise they should because things have got waaay out of control ( pardon the pun ) at the end of first one there. It seems that the problem is much bigger and more dangerous than what one writer could handle.
It does, an FBC agent, Estevez, portrayed by Janina Gavankar, established in Control as the chief agent at the Cauldron Lake AWE monitoring station, has been announced in the cast list and shown in a couple previews of Saga's side.
Matthew Porretta VOICES Alan wake. The actor who portrays his physical model is Ilkka Villi. Also, Courtney Hope who plays Jesse in Control was in Quantum Break, another Remedy game and there's a photo on Control of Jesse speaking with someone dressed as her QB character, then there's the character Martin Hatch in that game is actually Mr. Door (hatch is a type of door) which was mentioned in passing in Control by Dylan Faden as someone who exists in all timelines/universes at once and he's going to be in Alan Wake 2. Would have been played by Lance Reddick once more, I bet, if he was still with us. 😭 Shawn Ashmore from QB will come back for AW2. I've played through AW, AW:AN, Control and QB these last few months just to refresh on the story and I still had to look for extra stuff online and even videos explaining whatever else I've missed (there's also a blog called "This House of Dreams" that's an easter egg in Control and hinted AW2 and was published in 2012). The way Remedy has kept a constant between all their games is amazing and there's very little deviation. They've always had all this mess planned from the start or at least have done so good with their world building you find references to NEW games in the OLD ones even before the new ones were even planned! Alan Wake 2 is the second game I've ever pre-ordered because of this. AND THIS IS IGNORING POETS OF THE FALL BEING A REAL LIFE ROCK BAND WHO ARE THE OLD GODS OF ASGARD IN-GAME AND APPEARING ACROSS ALMOST EVERY GAME WITH THEIR UNIQUE SONGS OR REFERENCES AND I ADORE THEM SO MUCH AND THEY WILL OFFICIALLY PLAY THE FICTIONAL BAND CHARACTERS IN THE NEW GAME! Oh and Ahti from Control went on vacation to Watery, RIGHT next to Cauldron Lake in Control and will be in Alan Wake 2 as well! AHHHH OK I'LL STOP GUSHING! It's not a lake of references and tie ins... it's an ocean... 😵
@@LordShrub By being obsesssed and looking for every single article and interview there is and every preview from the game which I would pause often to catch some clues. My only speculation (the bit I wrote "I bet") was about Lance returning to a role as that was simply a guess because of how Remedy has kept using the same actors all these years to represent similar characters across different games. But he passed away. 😢
Love how Bungie ties in game references to other titles it owns such as one of the Halo Flagships, the USNC Marathon-class heavy cruiser , and USNC Infinity. Tbh would love to see a modern dungeon crawler from them based off of Minotaur Labryinth of Crete.
I would actually love a full video explaining the connection between final fantasy tactics, and final fantasy XII. I loved tactics, it’s such an underrated gem
I setup music equipment for a small musician and I just have wait around in the van while they do their show, so I downloaded and emulator on my phone and I have been playing Final Fantasy Tactics again for the first time since I was like 13...I forgot how great of a game it was and I have been having a blast with it again...For some reason I remember it being an easier game when I was 13...But I have been getting my ass kicked! lol
Funnily enough Vagrant Story wasn’t supposed to be a part of Ivalice, but medieval Europe. The official strategy guide states that one of the armies you meet is a Christian one.
The connection is pretty sparse. The events of XII take place thousands of years _before_ Tactics. So, you know. Think about what that implies for Ashe's kingdom, and just how much humanity regressed if the flying airships and Magicka suits and all that technology eventually crumbled away into the scheming, political, religious-based medieval world that Ivalice is in Tactics.
One game that has a sequel that lots of people don't know about is BeamNG Drive, it's predecessor (Rigs of Rods) first came out in August 2005 and still gets updates to this day. And there's plenty of modders still making content for it (I am one of these people). :)
I don't know if it counts as a secret sequel but i really love turn based (j)rpgs since Final Fantasy VII. So years ago i found a pretty dark and challenging Entry in that genre: "Koudelka" for the PS1. A dark fantasy horrorgame set in an old castle about three strangers who needed to work together to solve the misteries or something like that. I was a child back then and as i said the game was difficult (internet and guides weren't a thing like today) so i didn't manage to beat it. Years later my favorite aunt made me a present and buyed me a PS2 Game "Shadow Hearts". Never heared of it but it was awesome. Still a turn based rpg but about a guy who could turn into his inner demons. Well while playing it turned out that the mainguy was the son of Koudelka the female protagonist from the PS1 Game.
It's hardly secret that Control follows on from Alan Wake. It's perhaps less known that it's also (albeit currently unofficially) linked to Quantum Break (with the events there potentially being another AWE). I love this shared universe, can't wait to see the next installment 🎉
Also Max Payne. Remedy sold the rights to Rockstar to make Alan Wake, but Alex Casey (the detective Wake writes about) IS Max Payne, just renamed for copyright purposes.
Indigo Prophecy and all the Quantum Dream games are precursors to Omikron. If you play them right and end them according to the Omikron time line you can connect the stories.
It seems odd to say Mother 3 is a SECRET sequel, though I might be speaking from a "knowing the series very well" pov here. I think you made it clear but just in case: They are all counted in the same series, written by the same person and have similar characters and gameplay mechanics. Either way, glad to see it being mentioned and getting recognition because it's such an underrated (except Earthbound, although somehow that one too) game series.
I mean Earthbound is the name of the series outside of Japan, where it is called Mother 2. They even released Earthbound first outside of Japan, then when it found an audience they released Mother as Earthbound: Beginnings, then decided they were done with meaningless renamings in the middle of the series and just released Mother 3 as Mother 3.
Funny thing about the Final Fantasy series. Yoshinori Kitase has confirmed in an interview that FFVII and FFX share the same world and timeline. FFX-2 introduces a character named Shinra, a little guy obsessed with technology, energy and spheres. He has been basically confirmed to be a long ancestor to Rufus and his father. Oh then there are the spheres themselves. Spherical doodads used for all kinds of magic and tech related stuff. Also known as Materia in FFVII.
While the Dormin did rampage against Emon and his knights, it's also meant to be up to interpretation of who was in the wrong in that situation. The Dormin upheld their end of the bargain with Wander, reviving Mono. But it is also questioned exactly what Emon had against the Dormin, we only have his word that they are evil, after all. And while possessing Wander's body, the Dormin specifically say they are borrowing it, not taking it. That's just another part of what makes Shadow of the Colossus such a memorable game, there was no clear line regarding who was good and who was bad
in my interpretation, Dormin was this one spirit being that's minding his own business. It was the human the captures him, split his souls into parts, to power these man-made robots (Colossus). They do this to fight their war with some other humans. So really our hero is doing a good deed by helping Dormin back to his true form.
I've never played any of the Final Fantasy games, but I recently finished Chained Echoes. That small segment on Final Fantasy Tactics made me realize just how much inspiration the developers drew from that game.
I still feel bad for Xenogears. I know that Xenosaga and Xenoblade Chronicles are different universes, but they do share elements from the first story, and it would've been amazing to see the entire 6 part story, but well, we have to wait and see how the Xenoblade story progresses
I don't think anyone forgets it came first, but to be honest red dead redemption wouldn't have existed if "Gun" hadn't came out around the same time or just after red dead revolver as redemption took alot from gun and gun took slow motion from revolver
@@Skakid789but it’s not. Revolver was developed by Capcom and R* bought the rights so they could release it instead of it being shelved. IIRC, there is no reference to Harlow in either RDR or RDR2.
I think I remember preordering Alan Wake for Xbox 360. I liked the game but never got really far and forgot about it. And a little bit ago Control was on sale on Steam and it had great reviews so I got it, but never got around to playing it. You made me want to go back and play both games now!
@@hawkingbishop Definitely Alan Wake first. Quantum Break was also a fun one, though it's not 'officially' part of the current RCU (Remedy Connected Universe) it has links.
Still waiting for code vein 2. Absolutely loved code vein, it fixed my main issue with dark souls which was a cohesive story without reading the descriptions of like 50 items
I don't think the story aspect of Dark Souls is an Issue, it's very intentional, They present a story in their own unique way, however it's understandable why some people wouldn't like it
Code vein is a pseudo-souls like & not a souls like so the design is suited to it. It's basically a OW version God eater prequel game rather than hub based game of God Eater. And soulslike games arent narratively driven but lore driven with repetitive gameplay loops which Code Vein doesn't fall under , then even monster hunter or GE or any roguelike would come under the same souls like based on this game design.
Control is definitely an excellent game on many levels. I especially like how you can (after the basic steps/few levels in the beginning) wonder around the building how ever you like. And if it get's tough you can actually upgrade to be better. So it's not completely banging your head to the wall (like in e.g. Dark Souls) even if you go initially to the "wrong" direction. And the game kinda hints where to go but not force (like in e.g. modern Tomb Raider)
While it's Fan Fic (supposedly!!), the idea that Elder Scrolls is the same world as Fallout always intrigued me. The story is that Elder Scrolls is the far off future from Fallout, given that the nirnroot is well known in Elder Scrolls, and that they just discovered it in Fallout 4.
Maybe not enough to call it a "secret sequel" but there's some speculation that Final Fantasy X is a prequel to Final Fantasy VII. It all boils down to a conversation in Final Fantasy X-2 where the Al Bhel engineer named "Shinra" speculates that given enough time it would be possible to harness the energy of the "Farplane" to be used as a source of power and seems to imply that the Spheres used in FFX are a kind of protoform of the Materia in Final Fantasy 7.
I still secretly hope Control gets a sequel. It wasn't perfect but it was fun and engaging throughout. Plus . . . love me some redheads. Even if she had a jaw line that could sink the Titanic haha
Control is supposed to have a sequel, that's more or less official. It's just that remedy was focused on alan wake 2 first. Also, regarding the video, control is not so much a secret sequel. Alan remedy games are in the same universe
They announced a Control 2 but all we have of it for now is a cryptic splash image depicting a daytime scene right outside the FBC entrance covered in containment nets and with weird floating bodies and-- yeah, the world outside the Oldest House did not survive the FBC lockdown unmolested. Whether it will be connected to Alan Wake's fiddling with rewriting reality remains to be seen - but he does visit an Oceanview HOTEL in the previews...
i've got one. Though im not sure if it technically counts as a sequel. Dark Sector and Warframe. The game made in the early 2000s where you play an agent who throws an alien glaive around while slowly becoming being consumed by an alien biotech armor is technically a spiritual prequel to Warframe.
It's been heavily worked up by DE themselves. Warframe 1999 is coming out soon as an update in Warframe (I believe). It's hopefully going to make more connections between the 2 series.
NieR didnt get enough love back in the day. Drakengard even more so. Great games that I was proud to play back in the day. Drakengard is rough today, but it's worth it if you have a ps2. NieR Gestalt is also kind of rough, but its not as bad as Drakengard. I'm amazed we got a sequel in Automata, and Drakengard 3. Both amazing games. These games are so damn good. My favorite has to be Replicant 1.22 for the beautiful and vulgar hussy, Kainé.
@@rodarollada yes. The west got Gestalt with dad, simply titled NieR. Japan got Replicant, or brother, on ps3 and Gestalt on 360. They remade/remastered Replicant for everyone with Replicant 1.22.
What about Final Fantasy VII being a secret sequel to Final Fantasy X (From what I read, some of the events that take place in X are spoken about in VII and considered to be historical events)?
In regards to Code Vein, so far the developers have only stated that the connections were intended as an easter egg. Though the background story does match what happend in the God Eater games. Other connections as mentioned in the video, it's revealed that there are monsters outside of the mist and the one you see is an aragami (the same one that can be seen on the box art of the first God Eater game) and the DLC bosses are all aragami variants as well. There is at least one more minor connection, one of the items you can give to the companions is a figure based on a fictional TV show, that show is the favorite show of one of the characters from the God Eater games. That said, if I'm not mistaken the game started it's development as a new God Eater game, so the connections and easter eggs might all be related to that. Another hidden sequel relationship in the Final Fantasy series, Final Fantasy X/X-2 are hidden prequels to Final Fantasy 7. A character named Shinra discusses in Final Fantasy X-2 the concept of extracting Mako energy and it was confirmed by the developers that they envisioned X-2 as a prequel to 7.
My favorite episode thus far. I still firmly believe, regardless of what devs say, that Dishonored is a secret Bioshock game. The character dynamics fit too well. Corvo is his reality's version of Andrew Ryan/Booker/Comstock. Emily is Jack/Elizabeth.
Subnautica is a prequel to the game Natural Selection 2, where the Kharaa has spread across a sector of space and a military force was sent in to try and suppress the infection. It's actually a really cool game, it's a mix of an FPS and a RTS.
I’m honestly surprised that death’s door and titan souls wasn’t mentioned in this video. I’ve never played titan souls, but when I collected all the tablets and the secret ending was revealed, I could tell it was a reference to another game.
Not a secret though. From the very beginning they make it apparent both games are connected. Plus, everyone knows all of Yoko Taro games are in the same universe.
Some have already mentioned it here and maybe it's more suiting of an honorable mention but I was surprised to see no mention of the Final Fantasy X-2 Final Fantasy VII connection with it strongly being suggested that Final Fantasy X-2 is actually a prequel to Final Fantasy VII with the Shinra in X-2 being connected to the organisation in VII
Something interesting to note is that Drakengard 3's E ending is very much a plot point in the Nier universe and is less of a secret prequel and more of an explicit one; The ending is the reason for the disease that turned humanity into Shades, a character from that game is referenced numerous times across the games, and Reincarnation even shows the events of the ending as well as what happened shortly after the disease started. You would not know anything of what's happening in these cases if you didn't play or know of Drak 3 beforehand.
Great list! I swear i thought I was the only one who actually played the Control DLC to the end where it revealed SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS The FBC was/is another creation or “story” being written by Alan still trapped in the darkness as a means to try and rescue himself. Hell it even explains that Alan is the one who created the hiss chant and even how he did it. My guess for AW2 is that the Oceanview hotel will be of some critical importance.
Also in the final fantasy series, theres a lot of evidence that final fantasy VII and X are actually the same world, particularly we can tell that Shinra in X actually grows up to found the Shinra Company, which has a long line of successors, leading to the corporate greed shown in VII
Well...never thought if it that way. Sharing a name doesn't mean he's linked to the company Shinra. It's possible but there are a Biggs and Wedge in most FF that are usually buddies. But yes, nearly all FF are from the same world. Including Bravely Default, Legend of Zelda, and the Mana series. Some may take place in a parallel universe though
@@elledotcom4437 I saw Rufus and his dad in the remake (annoyingly badass fight) but I don't recall the kid Shinra looking like them. Btw as a remake player, I hope you enjoyed suffering like I did by Shinra's evil boss mechs :)
@@shawntee1006 there's a photo you can find of the founding members of Shinra Corp, you can see the original Shinra himself in it wearing the original Shinra's Al Bed mask. That mask has only been seen in the entire series being worn by the 2 Shinra's, so if theyre not the same person, it's an extremely weird detail to put in the remake. Like it's not just a small little thing, its a HUGE picture, and they had to make an entirely new model for this guy just for this one thing. Rufus and the current president are likely decendants of him, but we don't really know how far down the line it is. As for the suffering, I was hoping that remake would feel more like crisis core, but the dodging was just like. A little off. The amount of times I died because cloud was just slightly still inside the range of an attack was rediculous
The connection between SOTC and ICO is even more cemented by the fact that if you go to the west edge of the map in Shadow, you can see a castle resembling the one from ICO.
The one exclusion that I think could plausibly apply to the numbered FF games being sequels is this. If you look at 10 and 7, they both share a common character known as Shinra. This may be a simple easter egg similar to the weapons shop in Alexandria in FF9 referencing Cloud's buster sword saying "I remember a spikey haired fellow carrying a sword similar to this" or something like that. I would love to know if anyone else thinks that FF10 and FF7 are connected in some way. If I'm wrong, I apologize and if anyone has any proof either way, I would love to see it.
They are. The farplane from FFX is the lifestream in FF7 and the Al Bhed Shinra from FFX developed a way to turn it into useable energy called Mako and created the Shin-Ra energy company.
Mentioning FF Tactics and Not Tactics A:2 which is also set in actual Ivalice (unlike Tactics Advance which is set in an imagined version) feels like a crime against gaming lol. But I can understand why it may be a little confusing if you aren't super deep into Ivalice lore. I love Ivalice though and wish Squareenix would go back to it more even if they don't go back to any other of their worlds
@@ExarchGaming Aren't all of the Xeno series games in the same universe? I'm not sure if they count as sequels, though. I think it's kind of like FF7 and FF10. 10 is in the same universe as 7, but a different planet. I don't know that it's a big secret these days, but in the far flung future of FF10, people leave the planet of Spira and travel through space and land on Gaia where FF7 takes place. It is even further in the future before FF7 kicks off. So long, in fact, that the denizens of Gaia don't even know they're decedents of space fairing people. One of the common connections is the name Shinra. The kid Shinra in FF10 is part of the lineage that eventually founds Shinra in FF7. Its kind of bonkers that his family name survived that long.
Matsuno is a god-tier writer and world-builder. We got a significant side-campaign in FFXIV from this guy that was based in new lore for XIV's isolated iteration of Ivalice and it ruled. It got discontinued because players reacted poorly to the related content for artifact weapon grinding, and we never got to officially complete it. Hilariously, we were returned to farming currency for the next expansion's artifact grind, and people started missing the stuff we had. And I'm not bitter about it at all... even though we got pages and PAGES of new characters and lore and Ivalice love from it!
Also because of COVID. I think the zone they wanted to add that linked to Delubrum Reginae was dropped because of it? Anyways really hoping we see more Matsuno in FFXIV, because they left very easy to piece breadcrumbs on what happened in the end of Save the Queen that leave a plot hook visible and waiting to be picked up.
The Final Fantasy series is intricately intertwined within an expansive and interconnected multiverse, where the concept of the void and rebirth reigns supreme. It's more like a Ragnarök concept than just related themes. UA-camr, Sheria 1010, talked about it on her channel. It's the explanation for why some are just old fantasy themes while others had modern or future-based tech. It's really fascinating.
A few years back I bought King's Field IV as I was focused on ps2 collecting and it popped up somewhere on the Internet for cheap. I chucked it in the console and after a few minutes I noticed that it reminded me of Dark souls, which I had beaten by that time. It also shows an enigmatic cinematic at the beginning and the game doesn't explain much at all. It is a game from 2002 and doesn't have this fencing fidelity like the soulalikes do, but it is a solid dungeon crawler, atmospheric, fun and a bit on the darker side of course. Really a must if you like what From Software does.
One of the Easter eggs in control actually does tie into Max payne. One of the documents you finds says something along the lines of "in one world there was a writer who wrote a story about a cop, in another, the cop was real." Essentially saying that max payne is a series of detective novels written by Alan Wake.
Got another one that people might not know about! Final Fantasy VII is a secret sequel to Final Fantasy X; though there are easily several thousand years between these two titles, but it's been "indirectly" confirmed by the director (by raising the green confirmation circle when being asked about this). It makes sense, though. In FFX-2 you get introduced to the boy named Shinra, who is obsessed with his study's of "Spheres", which are nothing else but Materia. He would later become the founder of the Shinra Corp and build a legacy wit that. We also get introduced by byproducts of the planets "Weapons"; there are also smaller references that helps with the future world building that will become Gaia eventually.
You don’t have to ask me if I like your videos Falcon. I love all GR videos, I see a GR video I click so fast. You and Jake are awesome my friend, keep up the great work.
Valkyria Chronicles could be mentioned in Honorable Mentions as taking place in the same universe as Skies of Arcadia, though that's only implied by the existence of the three core party members of Skies being available to recruit into Squad 7 in VC.
i bursted into laughter on the Control section,trying to tie Max Payne and Control via voice acotr being present...first thing coming to my mind was to say "So Saboteur really is a sequel to AC1 and to...because all three have Nolan North included...not mentioning the artifact Sean fetched in one mission can very likely be some Isu artifact." xD
For the 1st one (#10, Alan Wake & Control sharing a universe)...crazily this ALSO includes Quantum Break & Max Payne. The Quantum Break link is pretty obvious, but Max Payne is supposed to be the detective novel series Alan Wake writes/publishes (IIRC they had the copyright but lost it so the detective's name is different, but Max Payne IS the fictional detective Alan writes about).
*Fun Fact:* This is the first Gameranx video that appeared on my recommended feed since somewhere around the first half of this year. 😱🤯 _(Yes, I'm subscribed with all notifs turned on.)_
Atomi heart to Bioshock ? It even mentioned in one mission about " So...this is the infamous underwater city ?! " and it was a model very similar to Rapture
Funfact: The "parasite" image with embryo cutouts of Giygas in Earthbound (everybody is scared of, why ever?) is just Giygas from Mother NES flipped upside down and multiplied. If you know this and look at the picture, you can see the the multiplied silhouette of Giygas. Giygas became an inspiration for Mew and Mewtu from Pokémon.
For the record we didn't find out that everything was connected in Dark souls 3 first, we found all that out in Dark souls 2. In Dark souls 2 lore there are 5 named civilizations that have fallen, and more that we hear about, but there are no names for. The whole game pushes the narative of the length of cycles and memories. and even shows many things directly from the first game scattered and broken in various ruins around the world. The 3rd game is much more "direct" about it all being connected, while in 2 all they would really show are key items and relics that are reduced to rubble, but that led many dedicated fans into finding out the connection in DS2 first
My favourite “secret sequel” is for two games that are vastly different from each-other: What Remains of Edith Finch, and The Unfinished Swan. In Edith Finch we learn through exploring the house and the family history how each family member over the last ~100 years died, with the exception of one who just straight up disappeared. Investigating their room shows that they loved to draw and paint, painted a story about a magic paintbrush that they used to draw a doorway and walk through it, and left behind not only yellow paint footprints (like the kind left by the titular swan in The Unfinished Swan), but also left behind drawings of the Kings logo from TUS. Unless you’ve played TUS before playing WRoEF you likely wouldn’t be able to put these two things together, but the suggestion is that it’s the missing brother from WRoEF who walks into his own painting and becomes the King in TUS.
Woah that's cool. I played WRoEF a while ago and it was such a different game compared to what I normally would play. I had a hard time enjoying it because of that. I need to replay it
@@kadenfauble the story that connects it to TUS is towards the end; it’s up in the tower portion of the house. I think it’s the second to last story before the end of the game.
I loved edith finch! I believe the vanishing of ethan carter ie a prequal for edith finch as well. Could be wrong
As much as I love The Unfinished Swan, I ought to play Edith Finch. I feel like I started it at one point, but never finished.
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DLC to Control was absolutely next level. Game was scary at first. I got used to it. Then the DLC comes along. Straight up turned into Horror genre. 10/10 would replay multiple times. Was amazing
Wait , for you it was a horror game ?
@@pikybayl No it wasn't a horror game. The dlc was horror-esque. Dlc turned it to horror genre, is what I said. A bit of embillishment. It was the themes of psychological horror and darkness that were great.
I mean, Alan Wake is literally a survival horror. Glad they took the approach that they did with the dlc, it was very fitting
@@pikybaylcontrol is horror adjacent. It's not a horror game but it is enough of a cousin to it to be discussed in the horror community. I mean the whole concept of objects of power and the FBC is based loosely on the SCP Foundation
@@OversoulGamingtrue, game has a lot of psychological logical horror elements. Sure it’s not a traditional sense of horror and it’s not necessarily designed for horror. But the elements are still there, if we tone down the power and knock down some lights. The theme can easily fit into the horror theme, I mean just look at the fungus side mission portion of the game that alone is scary as heck!
@@MakiseRumiHoffman in the DLC creeped me out. Control is definitely horror, walking around the bureau while they chant that poem raises my hair everytime.
I'm surprised you didn't mention how Doom is a sequel to Commander Keen, which is a sequel to Wolfenstein. The hero of Wolfenstein, BJ Blazkowicz, is the grandfather to Billy Blaze, aka Commander Keen, who is the father of Doomguy.
Never knew that 👍
Doom (2016) is also revealed to be a sequel to Doom 64 in Eternal.
Yup yup. I love this. I've never played any Wolfenstein, but I love that he's a descendent of Doom Dude.
Doomguy Blazkowicz? Was his first name a 5 letter word that starts with a B? Ya I think I would rather be called just Doomguy too.
Insert blew my mind meme here. I never knew this.
As a kid playing Jak II Renegade i was absolutely blown away by the time travel aspect and Although it tells you in the beginning that they are transported somewhere it isn't until later in the game when you see Samos' hut and realise that the beautiful green hills and beaches from the first game have been completely destroyed and it's now a barren wasteland. oh and somehow a younger version of Jak exists in that world which means that he is sent from the future to the past for protection only to get sent to the future in a never ending cycle. Man I love video games
Kind of reminds me of Lon-Lon Ranch being in Ocarina of Time & Breath of the Wild's Ruined Ranch in the Zelda series, just on a MUCH larger scale...I can't re for sure, but I think Broken Sword also had that "wait, THIS ruined heap used to be THAT beautiful/happy place?!?" twist, but I forget...it's been too lon-long~
Control was my 2019 GOTY. With Alan Wake 2 coming out, do give Control a go! Cheers, Falcon and the GR Community!
Same, I've beaten it 3 times. I just can't get enough
Is it actually that good like a golden secret
I bought the game yesterday, was reduced on the ps4 for 9,99€.
I'm glad I tried that game cause it's fantastic. Easily made top of the list of favorite games
I played control knowing absolutely nothing about Alan wake, though if I'm being honest I've looked it up since and it doesn't seem as fun or interesting to me as control was, maybe I'm wrong
I actually played and LOVED Project Snowblind as a kid, but as I got older I forgot the name and eventually decided the game was a fever dream inspired by my love for the Red Faction games. Thank you so much for solving a lifelong mystery ❤❤❤
I'm happy for you bro
I remember getting this from Blockbuster and playing the crap out of it for a whole month! (I rented it many times in a row) Loved the alt fire for the pistol!
I remember buying it cause it sounded cool and mysterious, lol. The OG Xbox days were amazing. First ever game I bought on it was Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3
Cool!
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I know how that feels it took forever to remember lords of magic and I saw it on a video a couple months ago
When I first heard of nier automata I didn't think I would enjoy it but I finally decided to try it. I ended up enjoying it so much, especially the combat system that I gave myself acute carpal tunnel syndrome, and I loved every minute of it. 😂
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Carpal tunnel from playing the game, or 'thinking' about 2B...? 😛
I had a copy of Nier: Automata delivered to my address on launch day, under a random person's name. I hadn't heard of the game before let alone ordered it for my PS, I buy digital only. I asked my neighbours if it was theirs, it wasn't. I tried to return it but the company told me not to bother. And, I ended up having a mental gaming experience I never would have had due to it being a genre of gaming I had no prior interest in.
what keeps me away from Nier is the fucking female designs and the game always throwing asses in your face like you're a sick pervert.
@@peterwale6821nier automata changed my life and how I think. Absolutely loved everything about it and I love talking about it
Hearing about Control, but not knowing it was a remedy game at first was crazy. Then finally buying it and seeing the Alan Wake stuff in it, I lost my mind 😩 I already have AW2 installed
Haha great. Are you ready for part two tomorrow? :D
@@Casey093 you 27th
@@Casey093 YESSSS 🖤🔦 I have my flashlight ready 🥹
@@watcherdevFlashlight, good, but how many Energizer™️ batteries do you have on hand? That flashlight ate batteries like a hog!! lol
Enjoy the game!!
Huh? It literally looks like a Remedy game.
I thought one of these may have been the fact that Surgeon Simulator is a sequel to I Am Bread because at the end of the game, the guy crashes his car when the bread comes to life which is something he suspected after a bit but finally saw it. That guy who crashed is who you operate on in Surgeon Simulator.
10: Control - Alan Wake
9: Drakengard - Nier
8: Project Snowblind - Deus Ex
7: Shadow of the Colossus - Ico
6: Marathon - Parthwasys into Darkness
5: Halo - Marathon (qustionable)
4: Code Vein - God Eater
3: Mother 3 - Earthbound
2: Vagrant Story & Final fanasty XII - Final Fantasy Tactics
1: Dark Souls - King's Field
Deathloop, Dishonored & Prey being one connected universe is really amazing aswell. Similar to System Shock & Bioshock!
That's cool
Although I would love to see how tf they connect all of those unique games
And let's hope red fall isn't connected
@@CHESS-MAN2491deathloop connects through the world itself. The island it takes place on is said to be at the end of the known world in dishonored. Along with a dunwall sign that can be found as well as a couple weapons in deathloop that are in dishonored. Not sure how prey ties in though
@@sikeyouthought3887 I'll have to look out for that
Just started deathloop and I'm a pretty big fan of Dishonored so I'm enjoying alot so far
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I wish the original Prey was connected to that universe
fun fact: Cortana was actually featured on a marathon site in the form of the "Cortana Letters" and multiple sentences used in those letters became some of the more iconic quotes that Cortana says in the Halo games and trailers. an example of this is the monologue she has in the halo 3 announcement trailer
For the case of Code Vein being within the God Eater universe, is not just the fact that the mist around it is protecting the humans within from Aragami threats, there is a scene when the mist got temporarily disable with a group of Revenants nearby, where they apparently got mauled by the Aragami, Dythus Pita. There's also the DLC which features a boss Lost that has similar moveset with God Eater's Hannibal.
Interesting. I'll think about playing code vein again. I like GEB Better still.
And the Moon is blue, which is a major plot point of the first God Eater game
Awesome picks, especially appreciated the mention of Ivalice.
Just one thing though - Code Vein is actually a prequel, not a sequel. We know this because the Oragami are still being referred to as "Horrors", and I'm fairly certain that there are other indicators as to it being shortly after the Crisis occurred - like a good century I believe before Fenrir is even established.
Some people have even speculated that Revenants are the precursors to the Blood Squadron seen in GE2.
also Shadow of the Colossus with Icho, right?
It could also just be a completely different timeline where they found an alternate method to fight the Aragami without making god eaters, in case the Revenants are actually able to fight the Aragami (which I still find questionable, with how bullshit oracle cells are... then again the parasite is also extremely bullshit)
I freaking loved Allan Wake when it was released. It's a pleasure seeing the game gaining the attention it deserves today and i hope we see more games in the future 'cos horror games are kinda vanishing, i miss that ps2 era when they were abundant.
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The connection between the Unfinished Swan and What Remains of Edith Finch blew me away the first time I played Edith Finch.
Much like Final Fantasy, most of the Tales Of series are not directly connected to each other. However a very easy connection to miss is Symphonia being a prequel to Phantasia. The more recent Berseria and Zestiria connection isn't much of a secret though.
A person of great taste 😌
Symphonia was my first Tales game. For years, I wondered what the name of the tree was, but then I played Phantasia.
In hindsight, of course it was "Yggdrasil".
Falcon and Jake are like Marvel and DC, I would like to see a crossover one day. You both are great, keep up the good work.
Max Payne could be canon to Alan Wake and Control in a multiverse style. Dylan said in one of his dreams he saw a detective in two realities, one where he was fictional and one where he was real and went by another name. Sounds like a reference to Payne himself and his fictional counterpart in Alan Wake’s books that was recently made real and looks and acts exactly like Payne, Alex Casey.
Yeah I was thinking Alex Casey who is basically Alan Wake’s Max Payne 😂
Yeah, Remedy just can't use Max Payne without permission from Rockstar. They sold the rights to fund Alan Wake
Literally everything could connect to everything in a multiverse style.
That's what the multiverse is about.
I loved Control and long forgotten Alan Wake. Super excited to see the sequels for both!
I'm really glad that Kings field is in the number 1slot. KF IV is my favourite PS2 Game, and one of my favourites of all time, so I'm glad it's got even a little bit of light, considering it's pretty obscure.
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Now i know why i like ff xii so much. I told everyone i knew about vagrant story. It was in my top 5 personal favorite games for a long while. I consider ff xii my favorite ff game, more so because of the mechanics that they brought, but also the art style and the story, though i know a lot of people didnt. Never crossed my mind they were related in anyway, but i now feel, i guess, nostalgic...ally...ish....knowing 2 games i enjoyed more than my friends are linked. This is why i watch this channel.
I was expecting “Days Gone is a secret sequel to Siphon Filter”, I’m pretty shocked it wasn’t on the list
I absolutely love this channel, the games you have watched the credits roll on is just crazy ,I am 49 and have seen my share but my god your knowledge of all these deferent games is just amazing and a joy for me to listen too, I am fairly new to UA-cam ,only 10 months as I started PC gaming this year and it has really opened my eyes to just how amazing that platform is.
Shadow Hearts was a sequel to Koudelka... and I also have a vague memory that the Deception games were in the same Universe. Older series but my friends eyes would bug out when I told them that
Minor correction, there is no main character named Cain in any Drakengard or NieR game. There is Caim with an m and Kainé. Both pronounced completely differently and not even remotely close to Cain. However Caim is named after a demon in the Ars Goetia.
THANK YOU I was hoping someone would mention this. I was wracking my brain thinking, "Who the fuck is named Kainé in Drakengard?" It didn't even occur to me that they were mixing up her name with Caim's!
I LOVE the Ivalice Alliance project games. FFT, Vagrant Story, and FFXII are the three big ones, but there's more games in the series and I suggest people look into it if it interests them. Final Fantasy Tactics on the PS1 was my first Final Fantasy game, so I'm always excited when I see another game taking place in that world.
FFXIV is also Ivalice.... Fran and tactics crew does show up. Granted it is in a different region in the world!
@@MashpumpkinWas given the impression that it was more like an alternate dimension/alternate timeline than directly part of the Ivalice cannon. It is my favorite raid series in FFXIV though, still working on getting all of the Ivalician gear sets for my glamour.
Love Vagrant Story!
Sam Lake and team over at Remedy are DAMN good at worldbuilding. When you get down to the deetz with everything going on in those games, it's mindblowing. And Control is so fresh and original. Spider-Man 2 ended up being one of my favorite games of all time; a masterpiece, in my book. But Alan Wake 2 is my most anticipated game of the year and I cannot wait until Friday!!!
still think spider-man 2 is great? compared to alan wake 2?
Alan Wake 2 is soooo good. I do have my complaints, but the originality and creativity blew me away. If I'm being honest, though, I had more fun with Spider-Man. I don't think it's necessarily a better game. AW2's creativity blows it away, hands down. But, and this is unusual coming from me because I almost always prefer drama over action, I wish AW2 had more straightforward third person shooter sections. Just a little more gunplay, like the first game, while keeping all of the new and fantastic survival horror elements for the rest of the game.@@crazziemonkke
i’m hoping the Federal Bureau of Control shows up in Alan Wake 2
Yeah me too.. And lore wise and in-universe logic wise they should because things have got waaay out of control ( pardon the pun ) at the end of first one there. It seems that the problem is much bigger and more dangerous than what one writer could handle.
It does, an FBC agent, Estevez, portrayed by Janina Gavankar, established in Control as the chief agent at the Cauldron Lake AWE monitoring station, has been announced in the cast list and shown in a couple previews of Saga's side.
Matthew Porretta VOICES Alan wake. The actor who portrays his physical model is Ilkka Villi. Also, Courtney Hope who plays Jesse in Control was in Quantum Break, another Remedy game and there's a photo on Control of Jesse speaking with someone dressed as her QB character, then there's the character Martin Hatch in that game is actually Mr. Door (hatch is a type of door) which was mentioned in passing in Control by Dylan Faden as someone who exists in all timelines/universes at once and he's going to be in Alan Wake 2. Would have been played by Lance Reddick once more, I bet, if he was still with us. 😭
Shawn Ashmore from QB will come back for AW2.
I've played through AW, AW:AN, Control and QB these last few months just to refresh on the story and I still had to look for extra stuff online and even videos explaining whatever else I've missed (there's also a blog called "This House of Dreams" that's an easter egg in Control and hinted AW2 and was published in 2012). The way Remedy has kept a constant between all their games is amazing and there's very little deviation. They've always had all this mess planned from the start or at least have done so good with their world building you find references to NEW games in the OLD ones even before the new ones were even planned! Alan Wake 2 is the second game I've ever pre-ordered because of this.
AND THIS IS IGNORING POETS OF THE FALL BEING A REAL LIFE ROCK BAND WHO ARE THE OLD GODS OF ASGARD IN-GAME AND APPEARING ACROSS ALMOST EVERY GAME WITH THEIR UNIQUE SONGS OR REFERENCES AND I ADORE THEM SO MUCH AND THEY WILL OFFICIALLY PLAY THE FICTIONAL BAND CHARACTERS IN THE NEW GAME!
Oh and Ahti from Control went on vacation to Watery, RIGHT next to Cauldron Lake in Control and will be in Alan Wake 2 as well!
AHHHH OK I'LL STOP GUSHING!
It's not a lake of references and tie ins... it's an ocean... 😵
Haha! Last line gets a thumbs up! 👍🏻😄
Where are you getting all this "X and Y is going to be in Alan Wake 2" from?
@@LordShrub By being obsesssed and looking for every single article and interview there is and every preview from the game which I would pause often to catch some clues.
My only speculation (the bit I wrote "I bet") was about Lance returning to a role as that was simply a guess because of how Remedy has kept using the same actors all these years to represent similar characters across different games. But he passed away. 😢
Love your obsession with the franchise and universe! Appreciate the extra info about the games. I wish you a wonderful life.
Love how Bungie ties in game references to other titles it owns such as one of the Halo Flagships, the USNC Marathon-class heavy cruiser , and USNC Infinity. Tbh would love to see a modern dungeon crawler from them based off of Minotaur Labryinth of Crete.
Namco did it too. Ridge Racer, Pacman, ace combat, Tekken etc are all connected in the same universe
They have a couple of callbacks to Halo in Destiny as well.
UNSC, not USNC. It's an abbreviation of United Nations Space Command.
@@torgranael Thanks for that.
I would actually love a full video explaining the connection between final fantasy tactics, and final fantasy XII. I loved tactics, it’s such an underrated gem
My favorite game of all time along with Black ops 3
I setup music equipment for a small musician and I just have wait around in the van while they do their show, so I downloaded and emulator on my phone and I have been playing Final Fantasy Tactics again for the first time since I was like 13...I forgot how great of a game it was and I have been having a blast with it again...For some reason I remember it being an easier game when I was 13...But I have been getting my ass kicked! lol
Funnily enough Vagrant Story wasn’t supposed to be a part of Ivalice, but medieval Europe. The official strategy guide states that one of the armies you meet is a Christian one.
The connection is pretty sparse. The events of XII take place thousands of years _before_ Tactics. So, you know. Think about what that implies for Ashe's kingdom, and just how much humanity regressed if the flying airships and Magicka suits and all that technology eventually crumbled away into the scheming, political, religious-based medieval world that Ivalice is in Tactics.
Love this kind of connectivity between games and stories.
Surprised that Days Gone being a sequel to Syphon Filter wasn’t mentioned.
I was looking for this. Setting enemies on fire with the taser you get at the end of the game never gets old. Just like in Syphon Filter.
I said the same thing
One game that has a sequel that lots of people don't know about is BeamNG Drive, it's predecessor (Rigs of Rods) first came out in August 2005 and still gets updates to this day. And there's plenty of modders still making content for it (I am one of these people). :)
this is insane, thank you ^^
I don't know if it counts as a secret sequel but i really love turn based (j)rpgs since Final Fantasy VII.
So years ago i found a pretty dark and challenging Entry in that genre:
"Koudelka" for the PS1.
A dark fantasy horrorgame set in an old castle about three strangers who needed to work together to solve the misteries or something like that.
I was a child back then and as i said the game was difficult (internet and guides weren't a thing like today) so i didn't manage to beat it.
Years later my favorite aunt made me a present and buyed me a PS2 Game "Shadow Hearts". Never heared of it but it was awesome.
Still a turn based rpg but about a guy who could turn into his inner demons. Well while playing it turned out that the mainguy was the son of Koudelka the female protagonist from the PS1 Game.
It's hardly secret that Control follows on from Alan Wake. It's perhaps less known that it's also (albeit currently unofficially) linked to Quantum Break (with the events there potentially being another AWE).
I love this shared universe, can't wait to see the next installment 🎉
Yea, thats official.
Also Max Payne.
Remedy sold the rights to Rockstar to make Alan Wake, but Alex Casey (the detective Wake writes about) IS Max Payne, just renamed for copyright purposes.
Indigo Prophecy and all the Quantum Dream games are precursors to Omikron. If you play them right and end them according to the Omikron time line you can connect the stories.
It seems odd to say Mother 3 is a SECRET sequel, though I might be speaking from a "knowing the series very well" pov here. I think you made it clear but just in case: They are all counted in the same series, written by the same person and have similar characters and gameplay mechanics. Either way, glad to see it being mentioned and getting recognition because it's such an underrated (except Earthbound, although somehow that one too) game series.
It’s not very secret
I mean Earthbound is the name of the series outside of Japan, where it is called Mother 2. They even released Earthbound first outside of Japan, then when it found an audience they released Mother as Earthbound: Beginnings, then decided they were done with meaningless renamings in the middle of the series and just released Mother 3 as Mother 3.
Funny thing about the Final Fantasy series. Yoshinori Kitase has confirmed in an interview that FFVII and FFX share the same world and timeline. FFX-2 introduces a character named Shinra, a little guy obsessed with technology, energy and spheres. He has been basically confirmed to be a long ancestor to Rufus and his father.
Oh then there are the spheres themselves. Spherical doodads used for all kinds of magic and tech related stuff. Also known as Materia in FFVII.
This is actually not true. It’s a common misconception. The guy said he wast serious and wouldn’t believe people take it seriously
This is actually not true. It’s a common misconception. The guy said he wast serious and wouldn’t believe people take it seriously
This is actually not true. It’s a common misconception. The guy said he wast serious and wouldn’t believe people take it seriously
Deathloop is a secret sequel to Dishonored. Loved that reveal
The golden loop update made it more blatant.
Wasnt Sleeping Dogs also supposed to be a Sequel of True Crime Games ?
Yes
It was true crime Hong Kong before it was canceled and then revived.
But it doesn't play the same at all
You are correct sir
The true crime series walked so Sleeping Dogs could run. Such an underrated gem.
While the Dormin did rampage against Emon and his knights, it's also meant to be up to interpretation of who was in the wrong in that situation. The Dormin upheld their end of the bargain with Wander, reviving Mono. But it is also questioned exactly what Emon had against the Dormin, we only have his word that they are evil, after all. And while possessing Wander's body, the Dormin specifically say they are borrowing it, not taking it.
That's just another part of what makes Shadow of the Colossus such a memorable game, there was no clear line regarding who was good and who was bad
in my interpretation, Dormin was this one spirit being that's minding his own business. It was the human the captures him, split his souls into parts, to power these man-made robots (Colossus). They do this to fight their war with some other humans. So really our hero is doing a good deed by helping Dormin back to his true form.
Regarding the Control game, once I played, I was like spotting the Alan Wake vibes and references I was like - what? Then found the typewriter, etc.
I've never played any of the Final Fantasy games, but I recently finished Chained Echoes. That small segment on Final Fantasy Tactics made me realize just how much inspiration the developers drew from that game.
Subnautica is a secret prequel to Natural Selection 2.
I still feel bad for Xenogears. I know that Xenosaga and Xenoblade Chronicles are different universes, but they do share elements from the first story, and it would've been amazing to see the entire 6 part story, but well, we have to wait and see how the Xenoblade story progresses
Well, since the last Xenoblade 3 DLC, Xenosaga and Xenoblade are now connected.
@@Lirka_906 I am a happy man now, thank you
Shoutout to "Contract J.A.C.K." being a prequel to No One Lives Forever 2!
Red dead redemption is a secret sequel to red dead revolver
Is it really a secret when it’s name is barely changed? Seemed pretty clear to me even as a child lol
Yeah me too
People ALWAYS forget that revolver started it all.
I don't think anyone forgets it came first, but to be honest red dead redemption wouldn't have existed if "Gun" hadn't came out around the same time or just after red dead revolver as redemption took alot from gun and gun took slow motion from revolver
@@Skakid789but it’s not. Revolver was developed by Capcom and R* bought the rights so they could release it instead of it being shelved. IIRC, there is no reference to Harlow in either RDR or RDR2.
I gotta try Control again. I couldn’t get into it, but SOOO many people love it. I feel like I owe it another go!
I think I remember preordering Alan Wake for Xbox 360. I liked the game but never got really far and forgot about it. And a little bit ago Control was on sale on Steam and it had great reviews so I got it, but never got around to playing it. You made me want to go back and play both games now!
They're totally worth it - the lore is utterly fantastic.
@@LordMorbannaon Do you think I should play Alan Wake first or can I dive right into Control?
Control has stuff that spoils Alan Wake’s ending along with the 2nd dlc basically being a setup for Alan Wake 2.
@@BLeePrit thanks for the info!
@@hawkingbishop Definitely Alan Wake first. Quantum Break was also a fun one, though it's not 'officially' part of the current RCU (Remedy Connected Universe) it has links.
Control and Alan Wake series is
SO underrated I dont know how more people arent talking about Im currently going through Control again. SO GOOD
Still waiting for code vein 2. Absolutely loved code vein, it fixed my main issue with dark souls which was a cohesive story without reading the descriptions of like 50 items
I don't think the story aspect of Dark Souls is an Issue, it's very intentional, They present a story in their own unique way, however it's understandable why some people wouldn't like it
It's chock-full of cutscenes, which completely misses the point of Soulslikes, which is immersive storytelling through exploration.
Code vein is a pseudo-souls like & not a souls like so the design is suited to it. It's basically a OW version God eater prequel game rather than hub based game of God Eater.
And soulslike games arent narratively driven but lore driven with repetitive gameplay loops which Code Vein doesn't fall under , then even monster hunter or GE or any roguelike would come under the same souls like based on this game design.
No one talks about this one, but Madden , Fifa and the Skate series also shared the same world.
Control is definitely an excellent game on many levels. I especially like how you can (after the basic steps/few levels in the beginning) wonder around the building how ever you like. And if it get's tough you can actually upgrade to be better. So it's not completely banging your head to the wall (like in e.g. Dark Souls) even if you go initially to the "wrong" direction. And the game kinda hints where to go but not force (like in e.g. modern Tomb Raider)
While it's Fan Fic (supposedly!!), the idea that Elder Scrolls is the same world as Fallout always intrigued me. The story is that Elder Scrolls is the far off future from Fallout, given that the nirnroot is well known in Elder Scrolls, and that they just discovered it in Fallout 4.
Nirn roots can be found in Starfield. Company in-joke or shared universe?
Its shared universe not sequel. Elder scrolls doesnt take place on Earth.
No. Demon's Souls is the sequel to King's Field. Dark Souls is the secret sequel to Demons Souls
I don't think they're secret sequels, all those games are clearly connected to anyone who's played them, they are all part of a greater whole.
Dark Souls is an obvious sequel successor to Demons Souls.
Far less people know of the secret sequel of Demons/Dark Souls to Kings Field.
What about Elden Ring being the prequel?
Same developer, different genre
Demons Souls and Dark Souls are the same genre
Demon souls has nothing to do with dark souls. Vaati is clearly against this. I guess at the end u choose to believe what you want.
Control was an epic experience. Really hoping for Control 2 ❤
I knew half of those but Code Vein and God Eater surprised me
Maybe not enough to call it a "secret sequel" but there's some speculation that Final Fantasy X is a prequel to Final Fantasy VII.
It all boils down to a conversation in Final Fantasy X-2 where the Al Bhel engineer named "Shinra" speculates that given enough time it would be possible to harness the energy of the "Farplane" to be used as a source of power and seems to imply that the Spheres used in FFX are a kind of protoform of the Materia in Final Fantasy 7.
I still secretly hope Control gets a sequel. It wasn't perfect but it was fun and engaging throughout. Plus . . . love me some redheads. Even if she had a jaw line that could sink the Titanic haha
Control was awesome. Jesse was a badass and I loved the levitate and other game mechanics. I also loved looking through all the documents
Control is supposed to have a sequel, that's more or less official. It's just that remedy was focused on alan wake 2 first.
Also, regarding the video, control is not so much a secret sequel. Alan remedy games are in the same universe
They announced a Control 2 but all we have of it for now is a cryptic splash image depicting a daytime scene right outside the FBC entrance covered in containment nets and with weird floating bodies and-- yeah, the world outside the Oldest House did not survive the FBC lockdown unmolested. Whether it will be connected to Alan Wake's fiddling with rewriting reality remains to be seen - but he does visit an Oceanview HOTEL in the previews...
Another remedy banger, of course it's going to be fun.
I was sure I have seen control 2 poster or something before.
I could have just dreamt it tho
i've got one. Though im not sure if it technically counts as a sequel. Dark Sector and Warframe. The game made in the early 2000s where you play an agent who throws an alien glaive around while slowly becoming being consumed by an alien biotech armor is technically a spiritual prequel to Warframe.
It's been heavily worked up by DE themselves. Warframe 1999 is coming out soon as an update in Warframe (I believe). It's hopefully going to make more connections between the 2 series.
NieR didnt get enough love back in the day. Drakengard even more so. Great games that I was proud to play back in the day.
Drakengard is rough today, but it's worth it if you have a ps2. NieR Gestalt is also kind of rough, but its not as bad as Drakengard. I'm amazed we got a sequel in Automata, and Drakengard 3. Both amazing games. These games are so damn good. My favorite has to be Replicant 1.22 for the beautiful and vulgar hussy, Kainé.
Aren’t Gestalt and Replicant basically the two different versions of one game?
@@rodarollada yes. The west got Gestalt with dad, simply titled NieR. Japan got Replicant, or brother, on ps3 and Gestalt on 360. They remade/remastered Replicant for everyone with Replicant 1.22.
Honorable mention: Koudelka for the PS1 is a prequel to the Shadow Hearts series on PS2.
What about Final Fantasy VII being a secret sequel to Final Fantasy X (From what I read, some of the events that take place in X are spoken about in VII and considered to be historical events)?
Just hopped on here to say the same thing but I knew someone else already had to of lol.
In regards to Code Vein, so far the developers have only stated that the connections were intended as an easter egg. Though the background story does match what happend in the God Eater games. Other connections as mentioned in the video, it's revealed that there are monsters outside of the mist and the one you see is an aragami (the same one that can be seen on the box art of the first God Eater game) and the DLC bosses are all aragami variants as well.
There is at least one more minor connection, one of the items you can give to the companions is a figure based on a fictional TV show, that show is the favorite show of one of the characters from the God Eater games.
That said, if I'm not mistaken the game started it's development as a new God Eater game, so the connections and easter eggs might all be related to that.
Another hidden sequel relationship in the Final Fantasy series, Final Fantasy X/X-2 are hidden prequels to Final Fantasy 7. A character named Shinra discusses in Final Fantasy X-2 the concept of extracting Mako energy and it was confirmed by the developers that they envisioned X-2 as a prequel to 7.
My favorite episode thus far. I still firmly believe, regardless of what devs say, that Dishonored is a secret Bioshock game. The character dynamics fit too well. Corvo is his reality's version of Andrew Ryan/Booker/Comstock. Emily is Jack/Elizabeth.
Subnautica is a prequel to the game Natural Selection 2, where the Kharaa has spread across a sector of space and a military force was sent in to try and suppress the infection. It's actually a really cool game, it's a mix of an FPS and a RTS.
This was really neat! You should do a part 2!
Isn't Destiny a sort of sequel to Halo, Marathon, etc.?
I’m honestly surprised that death’s door and titan souls wasn’t mentioned in this video. I’ve never played titan souls, but when I collected all the tablets and the secret ending was revealed, I could tell it was a reference to another game.
Drakengard and nier? Yah
Not a secret though. From the very beginning they make it apparent both games are connected. Plus, everyone knows all of Yoko Taro games are in the same universe.
Some have already mentioned it here and maybe it's more suiting of an honorable mention but I was surprised to see no mention of the Final Fantasy X-2 Final Fantasy VII connection with it strongly being suggested that Final Fantasy X-2 is actually a prequel to Final Fantasy VII with the Shinra in X-2 being connected to the organisation in VII
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Something interesting to note is that Drakengard 3's E ending is very much a plot point in the Nier universe and is less of a secret prequel and more of an explicit one; The ending is the reason for the disease that turned humanity into Shades, a character from that game is referenced numerous times across the games, and Reincarnation even shows the events of the ending as well as what happened shortly after the disease started. You would not know anything of what's happening in these cases if you didn't play or know of Drak 3 beforehand.
Great list! I swear i thought I was the only one who actually played the Control DLC to the end where it revealed SPOILERS
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The FBC was/is another creation or “story” being written by Alan still trapped in the darkness as a means to try and rescue himself. Hell it even explains that Alan is the one who created the hiss chant and even how he did it. My guess for AW2 is that the Oceanview hotel will be of some critical importance.
Poor Quantum Break, always forgotten...
quite literally- the greatest most ambitious Time Travel storyline in gaming...
and nobody buyed it.
Also in the final fantasy series, theres a lot of evidence that final fantasy VII and X are actually the same world, particularly we can tell that Shinra in X actually grows up to found the Shinra Company, which has a long line of successors, leading to the corporate greed shown in VII
Well...never thought if it that way. Sharing a name doesn't mean he's linked to the company Shinra. It's possible but there are a Biggs and Wedge in most FF that are usually buddies. But yes, nearly all FF are from the same world. Including Bravely Default, Legend of Zelda, and the Mana series. Some may take place in a parallel universe though
@@shawntee1006 oh its not just name, it's appearance too
@@shawntee1006 like especially in the remake they call attention to it on purpose
@@elledotcom4437 I saw Rufus and his dad in the remake (annoyingly badass fight) but I don't recall the kid Shinra looking like them. Btw as a remake player, I hope you enjoyed suffering like I did by Shinra's evil boss mechs :)
@@shawntee1006 there's a photo you can find of the founding members of Shinra Corp, you can see the original Shinra himself in it wearing the original Shinra's Al Bed mask. That mask has only been seen in the entire series being worn by the 2 Shinra's, so if theyre not the same person, it's an extremely weird detail to put in the remake. Like it's not just a small little thing, its a HUGE picture, and they had to make an entirely new model for this guy just for this one thing. Rufus and the current president are likely decendants of him, but we don't really know how far down the line it is. As for the suffering, I was hoping that remake would feel more like crisis core, but the dodging was just like. A little off. The amount of times I died because cloud was just slightly still inside the range of an attack was rediculous
The connection between SOTC and ICO is even more cemented by the fact that if you go to the west edge of the map in Shadow, you can see a castle resembling the one from ICO.
The one exclusion that I think could plausibly apply to the numbered FF games being sequels is this. If you look at 10 and 7, they both share a common character known as Shinra. This may be a simple easter egg similar to the weapons shop in Alexandria in FF9 referencing Cloud's buster sword saying "I remember a spikey haired fellow carrying a sword similar to this" or something like that. I would love to know if anyone else thinks that FF10 and FF7 are connected in some way. If I'm wrong, I apologize and if anyone has any proof either way, I would love to see it.
They are. The farplane from FFX is the lifestream in FF7 and the Al Bhed Shinra from FFX developed a way to turn it into useable energy called Mako and created the Shin-Ra energy company.
Thanks for the video Falcon! Super cool to see these connections!
Mentioning FF Tactics and Not Tactics A:2 which is also set in actual Ivalice (unlike Tactics Advance which is set in an imagined version) feels like a crime against gaming lol. But I can understand why it may be a little confusing if you aren't super deep into Ivalice lore. I love Ivalice though and wish Squareenix would go back to it more even if they don't go back to any other of their worlds
They also missed one of the biggest and best too IMO, Xenogears and Xenosaga.
@@ExarchGaming Aren't all of the Xeno series games in the same universe? I'm not sure if they count as sequels, though. I think it's kind of like FF7 and FF10. 10 is in the same universe as 7, but a different planet. I don't know that it's a big secret these days, but in the far flung future of FF10, people leave the planet of Spira and travel through space and land on Gaia where FF7 takes place. It is even further in the future before FF7 kicks off. So long, in fact, that the denizens of Gaia don't even know they're decedents of space fairing people. One of the common connections is the name Shinra. The kid Shinra in FF10 is part of the lineage that eventually founds Shinra in FF7. Its kind of bonkers that his family name survived that long.
Matsuno is a god-tier writer and world-builder. We got a significant side-campaign in FFXIV from this guy that was based in new lore for XIV's isolated iteration of Ivalice and it ruled. It got discontinued because players reacted poorly to the related content for artifact weapon grinding, and we never got to officially complete it. Hilariously, we were returned to farming currency for the next expansion's artifact grind, and people started missing the stuff we had.
And I'm not bitter about it at all... even though we got pages and PAGES of new characters and lore and Ivalice love from it!
Also because of COVID. I think the zone they wanted to add that linked to Delubrum Reginae was dropped because of it? Anyways really hoping we see more Matsuno in FFXIV, because they left very easy to piece breadcrumbs on what happened in the end of Save the Queen that leave a plot hook visible and waiting to be picked up.
The Final Fantasy series is intricately intertwined within an expansive and interconnected multiverse, where the concept of the void and rebirth reigns supreme. It's more like a Ragnarök concept than just related themes. UA-camr, Sheria 1010, talked about it on her channel. It's the explanation for why some are just old fantasy themes while others had modern or future-based tech. It's really fascinating.
A few years back I bought King's Field IV as I was focused on ps2 collecting and it popped up somewhere on the Internet for cheap. I chucked it in the console and after a few minutes I noticed that it reminded me of Dark souls, which I had beaten by that time. It also shows an enigmatic cinematic at the beginning and the game doesn't explain much at all. It is a game from 2002 and doesn't have this fencing fidelity like the soulalikes do, but it is a solid dungeon crawler, atmospheric, fun and a bit on the darker side of course. Really a must if you like what From Software does.
Spinoff =/= sequel
But when the universe is literally the same and some of the plotlines continue?
bro i loved project snowblind so much. thank you for bringing that gem back to my memory.
One of the Easter eggs in control actually does tie into Max payne. One of the documents you finds says something along the lines of "in one world there was a writer who wrote a story about a cop, in another, the cop was real." Essentially saying that max payne is a series of detective novels written by Alan Wake.
I have a dream that someday this channel will post a video talking about a good game aspect while that doesn't contain a souls game
Got another one that people might not know about!
Final Fantasy VII is a secret sequel to Final Fantasy X; though there are easily several thousand years between these two titles, but it's been "indirectly" confirmed by the director (by raising the green confirmation circle when being asked about this).
It makes sense, though. In FFX-2 you get introduced to the boy named Shinra, who is obsessed with his study's of "Spheres", which are nothing else but Materia. He would later become the founder of the Shinra Corp and build a legacy wit that.
We also get introduced by byproducts of the planets "Weapons"; there are also smaller references that helps with the future world building that will become Gaia eventually.
You don’t have to ask me if I like your videos Falcon. I love all GR videos, I see a GR video I click so fast.
You and Jake are awesome my friend, keep up the great work.
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Valkyria Chronicles could be mentioned in Honorable Mentions as taking place in the same universe as Skies of Arcadia, though that's only implied by the existence of the three core party members of Skies being available to recruit into Squad 7 in VC.
Really suprised Death's Door isn't on here. The true ending reveals that this game is a sequel to Titan Souls.
i bursted into laughter on the Control section,trying to tie Max Payne and Control via voice acotr being present...first thing coming to my mind was to say "So Saboteur really is a sequel to AC1 and to...because all three have Nolan North included...not mentioning the artifact Sean fetched in one mission can very likely be some Isu artifact." xD
I really like how "DeathLoop" is heavily implied to be a sequel to "Dishonored" series
Alan Wake => Quantum Break => Control => Alan Wake 2
In case you didn't know. Control is not as secret a sequel as Quantum Break. I love all 3.
For the 1st one (#10, Alan Wake & Control sharing a universe)...crazily this ALSO includes Quantum Break & Max Payne. The Quantum Break link is pretty obvious, but Max Payne is supposed to be the detective novel series Alan Wake writes/publishes (IIRC they had the copyright but lost it so the detective's name is different, but Max Payne IS the fictional detective Alan writes about).
*Fun Fact:* This is the first Gameranx video that appeared on my recommended feed since somewhere around the first half of this year. 😱🤯
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Atomi heart to Bioshock ? It even mentioned in one mission about " So...this is the infamous underwater city ?! " and it was a model very similar to Rapture
Funfact: The "parasite" image with embryo cutouts of Giygas in Earthbound (everybody is scared of, why ever?) is just Giygas from Mother NES flipped upside down and multiplied. If you know this and look at the picture, you can see the the multiplied silhouette of Giygas. Giygas became an inspiration for Mew and Mewtu from Pokémon.
For the record we didn't find out that everything was connected in Dark souls 3 first, we found all that out in Dark souls 2. In Dark souls 2 lore there are 5 named civilizations that have fallen, and more that we hear about, but there are no names for. The whole game pushes the narative of the length of cycles and memories. and even shows many things directly from the first game scattered and broken in various ruins around the world. The 3rd game is much more "direct" about it all being connected, while in 2 all they would really show are key items and relics that are reduced to rubble, but that led many dedicated fans into finding out the connection in DS2 first