DUNE | Movie Reviews | 2021 | Frank Herbert
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Director Denis Villeneuve brings Frank Herbert's beloved sci-fi novel Dune to life telling the story Paul Atreides who travels to the most dangerous planet in the universe. Chris Gore and Alan Ng take a deep dive and review Dune.
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The new Dune was a welcome surprise. I've lost all faith in hollywood making good movies anymore, but this was exceptional.
Well, I just watched it for the first time now as a grown ass adult, never read the books and I left the theater OBSESSED! The story is so different, so weird, so bizarre, just so up my alley!
I need an SnL skit called: Arakkis Spelling Bee. First word: Quizzachsaderach
I never read the books. I never saw the previous movies/shows. This whole "they did not explain the shield/knife thing well in the movie," is accurate. I think we need give the audience more credit. Watch the film, pay attention, get off your phone.
Gurney literally says "the slow blade penetrates the sheild" while training Paul. Then if they go fast, visually it bounces back. When it is slow, the shields go red.
same with me, i didnt know anything about previous source material or other works, coz im in my 20's and was never really exposed to it.
But i think they gave a brief enough explanation of everything, which is good because if they spent too much time on specifics it'd bore the audience
This is what the harry potter series excelled at as well. They gave just enough info about the wizarding world while still allowing the film to progress naturally
These ppl lack basic common sense or media literacy &it's sad to see because they seem to be the ones most inclined to populate the social media critic-sphere
I've been living with these books and adaptations for 35 years, maybe more, so I've wondered how stuff like that landed with people less familiar. So thanks for commenting, I guess it did come through!
I do think there are things in the book, relationships and themes, that could have been developed more in the movie if Villanueve hadn't been so in love with the scenery, but apparently that is not one of them.
Never read the books, only know some of it's features from the C&C Red Alert style strategy game from somewhere in the 90's. Haven't watched the movie yet, but I'm gonna. Saw some scenes of it and it really looks great. I'm careful with movies these days coz 90% of Hollywood movies are pure human excrement. The quality has gone down so much that where watching a movie in 2000's and even early 2010's felt like entertainment vs now it feels like a fucking waste of time and an annoying unnecessary and flawed lesson of marxism. If equality was so great, go visit North Korean hospitals where a pile of human bodies eaten by rats that died of starvation is just another Tuesday or practically any other society that adopted it where the horror stories are plenty, from starvation to Gulag concentration camps to genocide and executions. Fuck Hollywood.
"I still don't understand the allure of Dune" - spoken like somebody who hasn't read the book. Basically we are force fed so much scifi and superhero effects garbage we can no longer tell what's good and what's bad like when they made so many westerns in the 50s and 60s. What makes Dune stand out is the strong source material of the books which were heavily ripped off for Star Wars. Dune starts out as the Hero's journey and then morphs into so much more with the original 6 Frank Herbert's books. At ever turn author Herbert avoids putting bombastic action on the page instead focusing on the hidden plots of the characters, factions and the mysteries of the world building and the wider universe. It's written as a literary novel, not a popcorn thriller. It's up to the reader to figure out how the battle plays out and solve the mysteries.
I hadn’t read the book when I went to the theater and left OBSESSED!
Exactly what did Star Wars rip off from Dune? They are massively different.
The Star Wars movies did have throwaway references to spice, and at times were set on a desert world.
Spice doesn’t play an integral role in the Star Wars universe or films, and the desert planet was a backwater instead of the most important planet in the galaxy. It was a place to escape rather than a place to control.
The messages, themes, plots, protagonist’s arcs, and factional structure of the 2 franchises are very different.
@@bobsmith5185 A few more things that were ripped from Dune and given worse / vague lore: lightsabers, the Jedi and their mind tricks, the false messiah who turns out to be a tyrant, the desert planet, the hostile sand people, Jabba the Hut.
I'm sure there are others; but those are just the ones off the top of my head.
@@Cybrix These examples (but one) are completely surface level things, and I’m not sure if they’re even all true. I don’t recall lightsabers in Dune. And how is Jabba from Dune? He’s not a sandworm, and he’s not a guild navigator. If you want to be so broad; then I bet that Dune ripped off Flash Gordon, Buck Rogers, and historical monopolies on things like salt. As to the one significant supposed similarity of a false messiah that turns out to be a tyrant, it’s completely wrong. First, Anakin does bring balance to the Force after being redeemed by Luke, so he isn’t false. Second, his arc wasn’t deliberate. Paul’s arc was deliberate because he saw the future. I don’t know about subsequent Dune “messiahs”, if any, because I gave up I think part way in the third book.
Star Wars did not rip off dune. Not the same story. It ripped off Flash Gordon and Kurosawa's The Fortress. Especially the Fortress.
I think the beauty of Dune is that it feels familiar and otherworldly at the same time.
I’m here because Chris said it uploaded it.
The Atreides saga continues in the 5th and 6th book. The Bene Gesserit are still using the Atreides genes for their purposes.
inner monologues were good enough for Shakespeare.
When a movie is really oblique at first, but so well done that the producers know that fans will watch the film again and again, and again..... and again....
All of the Dune novels are technically part of the Atreides saga. Darwi Odrade is Atreides and so is Miles Teg and they prominent characters in Heretics of Dune and Chapterhouse: Dune. The one thing that was missing in the new movie is a good explanation of why AI's were banned, why the technology seemed outdated for being 20 000 years into the future (it is not in the year 10 191 but 10 191 of the Guild Era which is a little over 20 000 years in the future).
If you are going to insist on that much detail being laid out in the movie get ready for another David Lynch whisper exposition festival. The books are so thickly layered that no movie is going to be able to touch on all of the points and it is more important to get the story across. Sometimes that means parts of the book have to be sacrificed in order to allow for the proper flow of the story in the movie.
That's why the official dinner was sorely missed, it's the perfect opportunity to show Liet-Kynes motivations, the world of poison snoopers and legal machiavellian schemes. However, it would have wrecked the pace of the film, so I'd be happy if we could get those things in a director's cut or even BluRay extras.
i haven’t seen it yet, but my god do i hope it does well. we need a win for the more nuanced, story driven films. i feel that every year we’re losing more options for stories that you can tell are fresh, anabridged depictions of creators’ visions.
I’m a Star Wars fan, more importantly a prequel fan, & i just wish people could get more behind slower paced, in depth, world building elements in movies
Fan of the books here. I went to see it with the wife and another couple, none of whom were familiar with the story. I had given them a brief synopsis. All three of them fell asleep through it! I couldn’t believe it. I saw it later with my kids, made them watch the original movie for reference. They loved it. Can’t wait for part 2.
So to expound a little bit on the new Dune movie. It is a very faithful reflection of the book, and that is why it's so good. Villeneuve has subtly rammed it with dense references to the source material. Couple bits left out (the dinner party for example) Bombadil style, but he can be forgiven for that. 2.5 hours is a long time and whilst there was a pleasing amount of exposition it literally flew by. My friend sitting next to me (who hadn't read the book) felt the same. I will say perhaps the emotional connection wasn't quite what I'd hoped for - the first half of the book is meant to be quite harrowing, but it is a great and unique movie, that relegates the Lynch version to its deserved place in the dustbin of history. ‘The same feeling as when I saw A New Hope or Fellowship of the Ring?' possibly not, but that could just be the fact that I am older and more jaded. In my opinion however it is the best sci-fi movie since Return of the Jedi in ‘83. But this is different - with Star Wars the source material was thinner and more childlike, here you are adapting what is effectively literature, the pinnacle of the genre and the themes are deeper, darker and more adult - and that's the reason non sci-fi fans should also see it. I don't particularly like RomComs but I love ‘When Harry Met Sally.' Bladerunner 2049 was a visual treat but lacked the resonance of the and source material of the original. Game of Thrones went slowly downhill when it veered from the books. The source material for Dune is arguably best in class and the movie does it justice. It's always good to experience the best in class even if you're unfamiliar with a genre. Villeneuve deserves a lot of credit for this movie.
The audible version is great I listen at least once a year as well 🙌🏼
Is there another version? I was listening to the audio while reading a long and was shocked when it skipped a whole page of the story.
I’m reading the books because I loved the movie that much
Great conversation guys!
Finally watching this video. I wish I had seen it when you first posted. Another DUNE super-fan here and I absolutely LOVED Denis Villeneuve's film. Easily my favorite adaptation of the source material and instantly one of my favorite films of all time. I haven't been this excited about a film (and its upcoming sequel) in years!
Inner monolog is a KEY aspect of the book. It should be in the movie. The character's inner thoughts don't match their outer dispositions. That can't be acted.
I found the movie to be a stripped down version of the book where we didn't get deep in the weeds into the politics, just that these two Houses are pitted against each other because one is deemed a threat to the Emperor. I think Villeneuve did a great job of transposing the weight and seriousness of the book into the movie. From the buildings to the vehicles, everything looked heavy. Finally, actual ornithopters that reminded me of art work published in Omni magazine back when Lynch's movie came out. And thank God the blue on blue eyes didn't glow. I don't remember seeing Gurney's inkvine scar, and while I understand the omission of the banquet, it would have been nice to see-one of my favorite scenes from the book-and I was waiting to hear dream Chani say "Tell me about the water of your homework, Usal," if I'm remembering the quote correctly, and she never says it. Overall, an impressive adaptation. Nice Col. Kurtz/Apocalypse Now nod by the Baron running his hand over his bald head.
This was a wonderful review. I thought this movie is so brilliant,the spice does flow.
Hollywood always has, and always will, have a problem adapting novels that rely on interior monologues. "Dune" is a great example of this; the Travis McGee mystery series by John D. MacDonald is another. One of the allures of the McGee books is McGee's frequent disquisitions on environmentalism, consumerism, monogamy, etc, that are at best tangential to the plot but essential to understanding McGee and why he lives the way he does. Those were always my favorite part of the McGee books and the mystery/adventure/action came second. There IS an imaginative way to translate that onto film (as a voiceover onto silent action), but if there's one thing that Hollywood has a shortage of these days, it's imagination.
I am interested because it is an entire universe created from scratch. In order to understand the alure you have to appreciate the detail in everything created.
The religion, the geopolitics, the demographics, the technology. It is alien compared to what we know in our world.
There is a complex canon within the Dune universe that remains intact with how the governments and the characters all interact and the rich history behind each faction.
This is not a story of a mesiah coming to power, but a story of watch out what you ask for...
I think that Alan's question about the budget for future movies is very important.
Correct. Question the budget of No Time to Die as well... we're seeing the end of giant "theatrical" movies in favor of more Squid Games.
Sorry, I disagree, I loved hearing the thoughts of the characters in the Lynch Dune. It helped me a lot with following the movie.
I'd love see a complete official David Lynch Director's Cut of "Dune" 84'. Lets see all the footage and special effects cleaned up. I'm sure Lynch would feel better about the final product as well.
I went from the David Lynch movie -- which I saw on a B&W TV sliced into two parts, with paintings and a narrator at the start of part one explaining things -- to reading the novel. I thought the movie was so brilliantly weird that I had to read the book. The new movie had the handsigns Lynch mysteriously deleted. OTOH, Lynch kept intact some of the lines from the book. I never watched the SciFi (now SyFy) TV adaptation because I figured the budget would be too low to do it justice. I still favor the Lynch version but the new one has its points too. The more Spice, the better.
Oddly enough I have never much been into GOT, but a friend at work lent me some of the books. My reaction to it was 'this reminds me of a fantasy version of Dune'.
I was right where Alan was the first time I watched Dune. Now I’ve watched it three times and I love it! I understand everything more than the first view and I think it’s everything that superhero movies try to be in terms of spectacle. Phenomenal movie.
I think Alan nailed it in the 3rd minute or so when he said he didn't see why people were so taken by the book. Alan had never read the books. The movie simply isn't as profound. Maybe no rendition ever could be. But my niece and her partner were very taken with it as it was something they've never seen before. Total escapism, a completely novel experience.
I stopped watching the review at about 3 and a half minutes. I got enough out of it. I wonder if Alan Ng will ever read or listen to the book? Would it change his view of the movie? Would the book be profound for him now?
Warner Brothers was kind enough to send me a copy of the book. I will read it with my kid.
The voice over in the Lynch movie was the only thing that worked!!!
it was brilliant. The voice over is such an important aspect of Herbert's book and it is the only thing I liked about the Lynch movie. I really missed it in the new film.
I love the books and I love the new movie, it's stunning and is faithfull to the book while having it's own flavor.
Read the books and enjoyed the film. Only problem was the sound design as I experienced it in IMAX. It was relentless and wore me down.
I'd love to see theScreenplay for Buttlerian Jihad
I have a soft spot for '84 Dune, actually like the asmr inner monologues, it fits Dune well, though I get that it's not really a thing in cinema.
Ultimately I've come to the conclusion that art and films are a relationship, and in relationships we don' t always need logic to appreciate something or someone (still have to keep an eye out for unhealthy ones though.)
Therefore in the Dune family, I like that old kinda imperfect one that introduced me to the story, though the book is really where all the meat is and the new film has its things.
I liked it that Cris pronounced “HarConan” instead of “Harkernun”!😂
I still have the 80's dune on recorded from cable on vhs. rewound and watched many times.
6:15 Yes, it has been done before, and in the exact same way. In 1970's "Waterloo", again produced by Dino de Laurentiis, and I think it worked perfectly when you look at the film as an augmented theatre play. Certainly Lynch had Shakespearean atmosphere in mind when he set up key scenes ... "THE PAIIIIN! - Silence ... SILENNNCE" wonderful interaction between Kyle MacLachlan and Siân Phillips.
the illusion of depth, and reversal and deconstruction of a lot of fantasy tropes. plus the palace/court intrigue thing has always been appealing to people.
I am as much a dune fanatic as anyone else, my answer to anyone who doesn't understand Dune after watching the first two movie attempts is that they don't understand it because the movies got it wrong.
I think i have watched dune four times by now...
It is a solestanding piece of art on its own, and a stunningly aethetically beautyful film.It is like Bladerunner, which i also enjoy to rewatch all few years justbto enjoy the athmosphere and beauty.
And i read all the original Dune Books!
I've read all the Dune books. It didn't date well, when it was first published he was dealing with so much cutting edge stuff in the sciences and philosophy and beliefs in how religions were formed, and because it was so cutting edge over time research in genetics and belief systems and philosophical ideas have gone way beyond what Frank Herbert understood at the time, so they haven't aged well. I always call this the Bram Stoker problem, Bram Stoker makes use of a cutting edge medical technique of blood transfusion but he does so before the medical profession realizes there are different blood types, and Stoker has four men transfuse Lucy, a procedure that probably would have killed her, not saved her. Then it also turns out that everything the Bene Gesserit have been doing has been for nothing, and that it is not even the story of Paul Atreides but someone else. Similar to how Star Wars is not the story of the skywalkers but that of Palpatine. In fact the whole thing about Dune is self inflicted, they need the kwizat Haderach because of the machine war in which some machines escape destruction and they believe the machines will return. Very disappointing compltion to all the books to be honest. Its also supposed to be a bit of a feminist tome but the women are the worst people in these boohs from the way the bene gesserit operates to the honored Matres in the later books. Still I loved the new Dune movie.
This film was the movie equivalent to a dumb blonde, being good to look at but not having anything of interest in it, and as a result ended up being no more faithful than Lynch's abomination. Key scenes were removed, major characters such as Gurney or the Baron suffered no characterisation, the former being a generic angry guy, the latter being an empty shell. The Mini-Series remains the most faithful of the three. You simply cannot do Dune justice in anything less than a trilogy and it wasn't helped by Villeneuve focusing on all the wrong things.
Honestly - and I know people will disagree - I think the new movie is not that much better than Lynch's version. Yes, visually it was nice but there were so many weak and ridiculous scenes in it that it destroyed the movie for me. Like Paul escaping the onslaught of Harkonnens and Sardaukar and fleeing to the cave. 5 minutes later someone says, 'you don't wanna be known as the boy who just hides in a cave'. The cave he literally just stepped into. In the book this remark is made after years of guerilla warfare against the Harkonnens. So, yeah, let's just skip years and put a completely useless remark in the movie because nobody even yet knows he hides in a cave so he cannot be 'known as the boy who hides in a cave'. Or the scene where Duncan Idaho sacrifices himself so the others can escape - makes no sense, as they literally just stand there and wait for a while before fleeing. So his sacrifice bought them like 10 seconds. Ridiculous. I was really annoyed watching those scenes. And when I watched it, it wasn't even announced that it will be more than one movie so the end was another unpleasant surprise. Didn't like the movie really. I'll rather read the novel again.
I completely agree. The Dune 2022 movie feels like someone read the book, made a checklist of dialogue and scenes, then realized the movie was too long. So they chopped it up and condensed it together in a way that seems very stilted.
Duh-ni Viyenev is the closest approximation I can think of pronouncing his name in English.
Ya one of my favourite books ever is Dune. I was the same with the Lynch movie. Big expectations. The first half was genius then it all fell apart. It’s mid 2022 now and I’m waiting for the new Dune part deux before I watch part one. Hail FT 🤟
Absolutely loved Dune 2021. Can't wait for a sequel
God Emperor could work really well as an animated series. There is so much scope to do wild visuals, Jodorowski (the animal sadist) could do this and it would work.
The guy on the right saw an adaptation on the first half of the first book of six, and said " I don't get why people like Dune" . that's like watching Lord of the Rings to Rivendell and saying "i'm out ".
It's his opinion. If the first book doesn't grab your attention, why would you buy the other 5? 😂
The point was that based solely on watching the movie, he didn't get the sense of why the books are so amazing. The films didn't capture why books garnered such a vast fanbase.
@@FilmThreat and that is a fair point, a well done movie will act as an inspiration for someone to read the book. In the case of dune, you could almost consider the movie to be an advertisement for the book. If you thought the movie was interesting and intriguing, turn some pages and see what you think.
The original Dune was the best even named my son Atreides. The new one was O.K. but...turning it into a trilogy really just annoyed the hell out of me. Also I felt like the original movie had 100 times more emotion in the characters than the new one.
I could not disagree with you more! The first Dune was so bad it was laughable. I'd actually forgotten quite how bad it was until watching it again recently. The new Dune is packed with character building and emotional connection between the characters. Wow! Not picking on you particularly but I just don't get how anyone rates the Lynch Dune highly. Even recognising we all perceive things differently.
@@beccymay701 "packed with character building"? I don't think we watched the same movie. The "Skipper/Gilligan" relationship between Paul and Idaho was particularly laughable. "Hey Little Buddy, you need some meat on those bones!" or whatever the line was. Leto was barely there as a presence and was completely uninspiring, Charlotte Rampling as the Reverend Mother was about as wooden as a 2x4, Thufir, the great Master of Assassins was a hapless buffoon holding a parasol, Gurney froths at the mouth about how the Harkonnens are animals, but we never really are SHOWN...I could go on
Lynch's Dune may have it's issues, but even without the questionable VO's, you learned everything you need to know about the Dune universe to understand the plot in ten minutes, what the spice is, it's importance to the plot, the animosity between Houses, etc, the emperor's telegraphed plan notwithstanding, whereas Villanueve's must be baffling to the unititiated. If I have to reference a UA-cam video after the fact to understand what the hell just happened I think is a failure in storytelling (not that I did, as a longtime fan, just saying) Also Villanueve's worms look like anus's on a garden hose.
"It's a good action-adventure.." Let me stop you right there Alan, no, no it f*ng is not. #readtheffingbook
What the hell movie did you watch Chris? This Dune movie was hollow and empty. It was very pretty. It looked amazing. It also stripped everything out of the Dune story that makes the Dune story great.
I've not read Dune but would have really like more world building in this movie. I think a series like GoT would have been better
Not gonna lie I cried so many times during this film. And felt hugely emotionally connected to the characters, especially Mum, dad and Paul. I've watched it about 10 times in the cinema now and there are still so many scenes that give me chills. Amazing world building, character and relationship building and acting from the Atreides
It's hollow and empty to SOME book readers. And that's completely understandable. But other book readers are okay with the stripped down and streamlined version as long as it's still faithful and not disrespectful to the source material (like something that TLJ is.) Lastly, this is a FILM and Chris is a FILM fan. As far as films go, this movie was DEEP for a big budget action adventure Hollywood story. Comparing Dune and it's themes to almost any other big films....and it's not close. Dune vs modern Marvel and Star Wars films? No contest. A space opera about strange worlds, mysticism, religious themes, warring families, political intrigue, fantastic strange and giant imagery? All delivered with maturity and sincerity in a time when most films have tones that are constantly undermined with bad humor and modern jokes? This is a "deep" film. Feels like classic Hollywood instead of modern Hollywood. It's not perfect, but you're looking at it from s hardcore book fan's perspective. Not as a big budget Hollywood story that still retains the essence and reverence to it's source material. Which I think it did.
@@Biggiiful well said. Completely agree.
@TheRealScience86 100%
"Game of thrones" is "Short Bus Dune"
The "shield+laser gun = atomic boom" explanation for why the year 14000 has sword play introduces a bigger problem.
"So you're saying a laser gun lets a suicide bomber take out anyone they want, at range? Someone tell all the Harkonnen stay-behinds on Arrakis."
Good observation, but not really a problem: The Harkonnens need spice as much as anyone else. Why go through the trouble with wiping out the hub of spice production when they can manipulate a traitor and spare all the infrastructure? Also, the hundreds of other Great Houses wouldn't take too kindly to the Harkonnens for such a stupid act. The issue is addressed in the books however, just cant remember which one.
There is a convention against the use of atomics and the lasgun/shield interaction falls into that when used systematically. Other houses would nuke you as retaliation.
In the book Duncan buries an active shield in the desert to stop the Harkonnens from lasing the dunes trying to dig out fremen and Atreides alike. That deliberate use is explicitly forbidden, so Duncan breaks the convention when all seems lost.
Visually Brilliant, but the story was left on the Page. If you don't have previous exposure to the story by reading the book or seeing the 1st Dune, you have little to no Idea of what is happening. one of the worst remakes in modern history !
Willynoof? Really? What's wrong with Americans? It's Villnöff, simple as that!
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to this day, I still feel like Alan, don't get how dune is such a fenomena. I found the movie bland and boring
It was the bloody pacing and editing....I feel like they dragged out the first third of the book for the whole movie 3 hrs for him to get to the fremen c'mon man
Hot damn son
What makes Dune so intriguing especially as a juxtaposition to Star Wars is, Star Wars the power is gained threw Religious and Mysticism. While all the powers of Dune is gained threw a hallucinogen drug. And all of this universe's politics, Commerce and Society revolves around being addicted to this one drug. Soma and steroids. Only a few have the discipline and ability to become a Jedi. Anyone can get stoned.
The 1970 film Waterloo, also exec produced by Dino DeLaurentis, uses the same technique of characters whispering their thoughts as in Lynch's Dune, and it's awful in that film too.
God these actual books are early woke propaganda and they are about as exciting as watching Obi-Wan sit around and talk about how we going to protect Padme
Dune woke propaganda 😂?
That is the most stupid thing i have EVER read the last few months!
there's politics there's religion there's Frank Herbert's wife standing behind him with a rolling pin🤭🤭 women need to be more important 😁😁
THIS IS PATHETIC HYPORCISY OF A FILM THAT IS A MONIMENT TO MEDIOCRITY That makes me think that Chris Gore Gore has a bias that that loses his credibility on other issues.... Because this film violates many of the premises.
The excuse of this film being a set up film is ridiculous. The problem with doing the book is that it is a novel that includes a lot of internal dialog perception rather than external Revelations of character That are necessary for filmmaking in a visual aspect in general.
While Herbert tried to incorporate the inner dialog the I walked the new film just has an obnoxious, Is boring and passive Person set forth as a protagonist that doesn't act like a protagonist at all.. Even in a coming of age archetype.
There is no illustration of why the Harkonens are evil.... Just the fact that there are rival houses with the only expositional references to their being evil... Overlaid on top of the Freman acting like terrorists.
There is nowhere in the film depicting them as evil and like most of this boring, wide angle lens, drawn-out stilll shots of people with emotionless faces acting like a picture book for Dune readers Able to think think despite being deafened by deafen by the ridiculous soundtrack.
The plot and advancement of applaud and character is nowhere in the film and simply superimposed by people who've read the book And inject it into this picture book that's pretending to be a movie.
Jeez.
The movie is FULL OF VIRTUE SIGNALING.
How could you not have grasped their underlying political correctness agenda?
Care to clarify what you're referring to exactly?
The vast majority of scenes are straight out of the book, often down to to exact dialogue. You have a problem with a text published in 1965.
Pretty much the only thing approaching virtue signaling I can think of in the movie is the race and gender-swapping Liet Kynes, and in the sequel film they're supposedly giving Chani a much bigger role (gotta have their lead female, after all). The ironic thing is that they took the most cunning and capable female from the book, Jessica, and made her a nervous wreck for most of the film.
I doidnt know anything about Dune going into the 2021 movie and absolutely loved it. Made me start diving into lore videos
There was no reason for this to be 3 hrs just for paul to make it to the fremen... Thats it .... I enjoyed it but the pacing and editing were at a snails pace there can easily be a under 2 hr cut of this movie. 3 hrs of set-up?! And still missing cool lil tidbits like the spacing guild the minutia is what's missin it just glossing over set up
God these actual books are early woke propaganda and they are about as exciting as watching Obi-Wan sit around and talk about how we going to protect Padme