To be fair though, they did kill a boatload of Chaos worshippers, denied the planet's munitions to the enemy, and it's not like they can't repopulate the planet afterwards with the excess population from nearby systems. And it's not like the entire planet is gone, just a small couple hundred square miles turned into a poisonous cursed bog.
Context is important. If the imperium hadn't done what they did it would have been a disaster on a larger scale. This was a pyrrhic victory, but even so, one that was necessary.
Inquisition: Alright men, today we are going stomp this drawn out rebellion once and for all in- Cadian: Here it comes... Inquisition: massive waves of His Holy Emperor's most devout guardsmen. Cadian: Knew it... Krieg guardsmen : ( excited gas mask noises) Cadian: How are you all not dead yet?! Squat: That's it, next time I'm asking for a post at Armegeddon...I rather face the Tyranids again than this shite!
Krieg Guardsmen: We are dead. Hell, every guardsman's mom gets ten minutes to mourn when they go to training. Why do you think we have numbers instead of names?
@@ejedwards988 kriegsmen have moms? Pretty sure a grand majority these days are birthed from artificial vagina'/wombs. Being born is kind of a stretch as they are more grown and harvested more than anything else if I remember my lore correctly.
@@Arphalia yes a large majority are born from artificial wombs but every krieg guardsmen starts as a egg from a over fertile women whose whole life is dedicated to breeding ^_^
i would say that they dont want to drop into a position where the walls can fire upon them and end up 'wasting' some of their precious knights fighing some lesser deamons in such inopportune circumstances. especially if its only to aid mere guardsmen
If I remember correctly, its about one out of ten million candidates that actually makes it through the initial trials on the road to becoming a grey knight and the imperium being galaxy wide and daemonic threats all around, there ain't too many grey knights to go around so I can understand them being deployed only when strictly necessary.. what I do not understand tho, is that in this level of operation lead by a lord inquisitor of a sector, there aren't more "regular" astartes deployed in greater numbers.. they have been used in greater numbers against small bands of ork pirates ffs.. edit: yeah I wrote all that before 37:40 and the opening of the great gate.. so.. yeah..
My main takeaway from this episode is, that Strategic genius apparently doesnt matter on Vraks, since the tactics of Lord commander Zhulka and the Inquisitor dont differ that much
Kagori's plan is actually quite solid. Digging all the way to the citadel's mines and fight all the way up. However, it's understandable that Lord Hector Rex had to use Zuehlke's plan as his political opponents will keep sabotaging his efforts if the siege kept going for so long.
@@imgvillasrc1608 yet another instance of Politics&Politicians fucking over Billions for their personal gain.....I'm surprised that after over 40,000 years of that bullshit Humanity *still* has not learned to never have Politicians&Politics involved in important shit
@@kostakatsoulis2922 and we never will unless we start teaching how shitty we can be to each other in schools. But that would be to 'real' and 'traumatizing' in some peoples eyes so will never happen
Krieg Guardsmen: *Adrenaline Rush Knowing you've made it to the last Boss Level* Deamonic Army: Is that... what is that we're hearing.. is that giggling? Where is it comin from? It's so loud! Deamonic Army: By Chaos! It's those gas masked little freaks! Kill them! Kill the creepy bastards! Krieg Guardsmen: *Giggling sounds increase in intensity*
Imperial envoys meeting with the government of Krieg for the first time Envoys: what will you give as tribute ? Kriegsmen: (ECSTATIC, GAS MASK NOISES PLANET WIDE)
"Outfitted with special climbing equipment and weaponry"... Equipment AND weaponry... Climbing claws used in melee... NOW you're thinking like a Kriegsman !!
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Can I just say, after a literal year of videos on the siege, hearing about the men of Krieg facing down horror after horror without so much as a flinch, hearing the Death Korps break and flee made me feel a whole new emotion. I swear these videos are better than most movies.
Gamma-943 walked through the tunnel, scouting far ahead of the main unit. The series of booby traps in the tunnels so far have caused massive cave ins FAR behind the one triggering the blast, so it payed to have a few solo scouts out ahead to make sure that if there was a trap, it wouldn't get everyone. Gamma-943 was fine with that. In fact, he was eager to do this. He had gotten sent to Vraks over a year ago. He didn't know that it was politics that caused him to be rerouted through multiple "sanitation" lay overs. Boy was he confused when he was asked if he had any fruit he wanted to declare. So he got here late to the party. The battle was already over. Still, someone had to go into the maze of tunnels under the Citadel. They had to make sure that the tunnels didn't have some sort of cultist cell or something. Every nook had to be checked. Gamma-943 practically jumped down his commanding officer's throat for the chance. Now he was wandering a series of hand carved tunnels that went down... and down... and down... He didn't mind. This was what he was trained for. This is what he wanted. He was pumped. He was primed. And little surprise he was caught completely unaware when the butt of a lasgun smashed him in the face. He came to sometime later. Lasgun pointed at his face. He looked up at the gas mask before him. He blinked and thought, ~Why is a fellow-~ But he cut himself off. It was obvious now, judging by the way his captor's armored uniform was torn open in several places and rotting flesh was exposed underneath. The both remained still for quite a while. Eventually Gamma-943 started to speak. The rotting guardsman make a quick gesture that was Krieg silent shorthand for silence. Then it pointed its' lasgun at the ground. Gamma-943 turned to look. There was a messenger's satchel lying next to him. it gestured again, and Gamma-943 slowly picked it up, opened it up, pulled out the first page on top, then started to read it. he just glanced at first, but quickly became transfixed by what he was reading. He looked up to ask, "is this true?" but the rotting guardsman was already down the tunnel and preparing to step out of sight. It turned to look back. Gamma-943 stared as it held up a device. It was hard to tell in the half light, but it looked like a heavily modified remote detonator. Wires stuck out of it at odd angles. It paused long enough to make a point of letting Gamma-943 see the device, then it turned and disappeared into the darkness. Gamma-943 was left alone in the tunnel. He would later report the most terrifying part of the encounter was that it didn't make a single sound as it walked, despite how much gravel was underfoot. Gamma-943 looked into the satchel and found a rusty and corroded shoulder plate. He cleaned it off with his thumb, and stared for a full minute before he shoved it back into the satchel. Throwing it over his shoulder he began to call out for the rest of his squad. He picked up his pace as he went. When he heard a reply from his squad he broke into a run. He arrived at his squad, breathless. His squad leader was about to chew him out for making noise when Gamma-943 raised a hand and said, "No Time. We have to get out of here. NOW." He coughed then drew in a long breath, "AND we need to get in contact with Lord Inquisitor Rex." He held up the satchel, "Not only does he need to see this, but the rest of these tunnels are all rigged to blow. I suspect we don't have long until this entire area comes crashing down." The squad leader eyed Gamma-943, then nodded once. Dying didn't bother him, but if the Inquisitor needed this military intelligence, well, they could come back later. You can get more men from Krieg, but you can't always get more information. He gave the signal, and the entire group turned and broke into a march, double time, and proceeded back the way they came. The rotting guardsman watched from a distance and thought about how long it would take for them to be clear of the tunnels. It figured it wouldn't be long before they made it back up to the safe zone. It turned and began the long hike back down to the bottom of this maze. Along the way it fingered the detonator. As tempting as it was to set it off now, it knew it couldn't. It needed to get a warning out. Which is what Gamma-943 was doing right now. It also had to make sure that the door didn't open in the explosion. It needed to be standing next to said door to be safe. It picked up the pace letting the distance between it and the other Krieg Guardsmen widen... and widen...
Inquisitorial Archivist Dammer closed the book labeled "The Confession of Epsilon-228". He slowly ran a finger over the old tome. Nearby Lord Inquisitor Navod sat, watching impassively. Eventually Dammer looked up at Navod and... ...said nothing. After a rather long period of silence, Lord Inquisitor Navod spoke, "You are the one who agreed to this." Inquisitorial Archivist Dammer let out a long breath and nodded slowly, "Indeed. I brought this down upon myself. I knew there would be knowledge I didn't wish to know, but this..." He gestured to the book then turned back to Navod, "If this is true, then the heart of Segmentum Obscurus could become corrupted at any moment. It hangs by a thread and it is only by the actions of one man-" Navod interrupted, "One man of Krieg. Do not underestimate the people of that world." Dammer's eyes slid off of Navod and stared into the distance in contemplation. After a time, he nodded in agreement, "Still... Are there any contingencies?" Navod shrugged, "We have an inquisitorial outpost that is hidden among the orbital debris. They know what what signs to look for and if needed, as a matter of last resort, they will deploy a planet cracker." Dammer looked shocked, "But the confession-" Navod held up a hand, "Might be wrong. If it is, then the planet cracker might put an end to the threat once and for all. If Epsilon-228 is right... well... that would be why we haven't deployed the planet cracker... yet." He sighed and leaned back against a towering book shelf filled with dusty books. As it creaked, he contemplated how many secrets were contained here. True, it'd be simpler to keep it all in electronic files, but those could be corrupted. Chaos had demonic computer viruses. No. It was safer to keep such damnable knowledge on hard copy in vaults such as this one. Dammer leaned back himself, but was no where near as philosophical as his counterpart, "And it will be up to me to decide when... or if... the planet of Vraks could ever be reclaimed... or if I'm just going to kick this down the road even further." He leaned forward, the legs of his chair connecting to the floor far harder than he intended. The sound of contact echoed throughout the vault. Dammer winced briefly before he continued, "You know I have already been approached by interested parties who have offered large sums of wealth and power if I but open up access to Vraks again." Dammer raised a hand and moved it over the tome. He left his hand hovering over the confession as if afraid to touch it again. For a moment he felt like something leaped from the book into his very flesh. As if the knowledge inside that book was infectious, leaving him... tainted. Navod stood up, leaned over, then scooped up the Confession of Epsilon-228 by sliding it out from under Dammer's hand. Navod cradled the book as he walked away, his robes rustling softly, muffling his foot steps across the cold, stone floor. He approached the shelf where from hence it came and lifted it up to the empty space of its' former cradle. Dammer noted that the light behind the book shelves streamed through that void, silhouetting Navod's face in the process. The light was yellow and harsh and seemed to age Navod before Dammer's very eyes. Navod paused, then spoke to Dammer without looking away from the light, "I do not presume to tell you what to do with this information. It is for you to decide. After all-" Navod slid the book back into place blocking the light... and in the process... cast his face into darkness. "-you are the next lord inquisitor of Segmentum Obscurus."
@@TheEldritchGod It is a good day, lore video with the bonus of the continuation of the story from you. Yes a very good day all and all. Poor 228, still rooting for the....uh..rotting Krieger...seems he is still loyal to the Emperor.
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@@lonniebenenhaley2482 Entirely fan created. I compiled everything into one PDF and called it, Tales from the trenches. if you google it and add 40k, it should show up on archive of our own. However, that's an earlier version. I should get around to the final re-edit sometime. If you care, let me know and I'll see about getting the final edit up somewhere.
Navy Officer: They're aiming *all* of their orbital lasers at the infantry? Quick, tell the ground troops to take down their void shield while we get into position to bombard them from orbit!
@@captainpuffinpuffinson4769so they might hate the death core, but that just means that they don't have to be as precise as usual when firing as they won't care about friendly casualties.
@@bloodlove93 *calms in inquisitor* They're a backwards people from a backwards world. They worship the Emperor in strange ways but after *extensive investigation* we have determined that this is indeed Emperor worship.
@@ejedwards988 Aww and i was just about to drop my great company on top of them. Oh well i'm sure their are some orks near by my men, wolves, and dreadnoughts are starting to get hungy
Video suggestion. Battletech Lore, the Battle of Tukayyid. Where Space AT&T kicked the clans' ass. I think the Death Korps would appreciate Comstar's dedication to their version of Tera.
*Daemons arrive from the warp* Normal guardsman: *Panics* Cadian: *Flinches but open fires* Death Korps: *fixes bayonets as “At doom’s gate” begins to play*
The Imperium confuses me... Inquisitors arrive on a planet and find a sect of chaos worshipers under a city - Exterminatus! Full on rebellion, open war for years, several adeptus chapters report the population is being sacrificed and greater demons are being summoned... - "Meh, send in some more guardsmen"
@arch warhammer I got started with your videos with the cursed founding lore, got into the rp's and the 3 story lores (horus heresy, armageddon, and vraks) and I can honestly say I love your content. You may very well be the best 40k lore youtuber, i hope that i can learn to be half as good as you one day.
Pfft. This is what you get for drinking the meme kool-aid. You assume the Death Korps would be unstoppable, unshakeable! They're _human._ Of course they'll flee. It'll just take longer because their sense of self-preservation is close to non-existent thanks to a quasi-religious cult brainwashing them to make them think they need to redeem themselves from sins _that aren't even theirs!_
Kriegsman: Ok guys this is the last mission, this end here... We fight more years in this planet that living in our own so... If one of your want to die before going home this is your last chance. Krieg: We can panic before diyng? Kriegsman: If there are Demons yes, if not regular death like always.
What it takes to break a death korps regiment: -March into prepared positions. -Lose all your transports. -Lose your armoured support. -Have no access to reinforcements. -Get charged by daemons. -Suffer casualties in extend of 70% of total strength in a single day, including all officers. God emperor bless you glorious bastards.
@@MaximusAquilas Greentext posting immediately disqualifies you from ever having an opinion of merit. I at the very least, still have a choice. You, however, forfeited that a long time ago. Go back to your Mongolian cave-painting board.
Someone singing "war what is it good for" that foolish person would be stabed simultaneous by a khorn worshiper and Krige guard men whom would then pressed to stab each other until a mountain of dead would remain. Some where in the warp khorn would smile for the first time in his existence.
Given the scale and extent of warfare in the 40K universe, Khorne has had ample reason to be smiling, if not pissing himself laughing for the last 40 millennia. There has never been a shortage of blood, skulls, and glorious or pathetic deaths to sate the blood god's insatiable appetite.
Was that plateau outside the gate not good enough for a bit of Grey Knight teleportation. I mean seriously its the Inquisitorial Death Corp and they're forgetting about the fact its Chaos calling the shots. There's plot armour, and then there's a plotline clad in wraught iron that drags just a tad.
this might be ever so slightly late (siege of vraks the grey knights not dropping into some bloodletters when the krieg guardsmen were getting fucked by them) i would say that they dont want to drop into a position where the walls can fire upon them and end up 'wasting' some of their precious knights fighing some lesser deamons in such inopportune circumstances. especially if its only to aid mere guardsmen
I'm not gonna lie, the method and means of attack of the 261st against the gate is kind of reminiscent of the 54th Massachusetts assault on Fort Wagner in the American Civil War. At least, to me it seems so.
@@TypeZeta2 Commissars assigned to Death Korps units have a thankless job- they have to wrangle the men and women of Krieg to for when the Big Push happens.
The 1d4 chan wiki puts it well enough: "Kriegers will leave a Commissar a wreck because they have to keep convincing the men that while it's laudable to die for the Emperor you have to do so while trying to kill His enemies. It's like herding sheep: if you keep your eye off of one for too long it'll be gone. Except this sheep wears a gas mask, digs a trench, bombards the enemy with mortar fire, then goes over the top and gets gunned down without achieving anything. Oh, and there's millions more like it."
The Commissars of the Death Korps have to convince their charges to make their sacrifices worthwhile. Not just sacrifice themselves pointlessly at the first possible opportunity. And they have to be more Gung ho and zealous than the Kreigers in the process to get their respect, because their usual tactic of fear- blamming people- doesn't work. More than one commissar has been executed Death Korps guardsmen for cowardice when they were in fact just acting in a militarily intelligent way.
And the Grey Knight do diddly ding dong.... sitting in orbit.... waiting some more weeks befor taking the ALL the glory. Gotta love the emperor "finest".
That's what happens when you lack intelligence on the enemies defenses. If they would have known Demons were involved an Astartes Chapter would have led the assault into the Citadel.
Well the idea was that there would not be hundreds of thousands of guns shooting at us if we attack from 3 sides... but that kinda failed... also it was only infantry and sadly some armor that was blown, so minor loses.
It feels like the start of that mission in Battalion Wars 2 where as the Tundrans you must rely heavily on your infantry while supporting them with Artillery, knowing full well that you can't replenish your infantry.
I'd love to have a video about another primache next!! Magnus the red or Lorgar maybe The one blamed for shit, or the one that actually aimed the shit towards the galactic sized fan
Where were the Gray Knights? The main gate was opened. Demons were flowing out of it in an unstoppable wave. The Citadel had no AA support do to the defenders using them to kill infantry. Could someone explain why the Gray Knights were not deployed to take the citadel?
Lord Inquisitor Rex took a play from the Zulkur Playbook and threw a glass against the wall "Where were the Gray Knights? The main gate was opened. Demons were flowing out of it in an unstoppable wave. That would have been the ideal time to jump in!" He paused to press both fists against his desk causing it to creak in protest, "Could someone explain why the Gray Knights were not deployed to take the citadel?" From the shadows a Grey Knight who just teleported in steps out, "We were still oiling up." He then teleported away. Lord Rex Spun around looking at the empty space, "What?" The Grey Knight teleported back in, "It takes time to oil my manly space marine pecs, Bro. Important stuff." He teleported away, but then immediately reappeared, "And I'm still working on my hair. I have to let these luscious locks sit in conditioner at least an hour a day." He held up a hand to fluff out his hair for Lord Rex to observe, "Gift from the Emperor's Gene seed. Awesome Hair." Lord Inquisitor Rex face grew red with rage, until he saw the hair, then his rage dissipated, "Oh. Well. Yeah. That is awesome hair. I get it now." The grey Knight then lifted his chin to look down at Lord Rex, "We'll jump in at the last minute when we look suitably awesome because the God-Emperor Gene seed makes us unmitigated drama whores." Then teleported away. Lord Inquisitor Rex stared at the empty space, and sat down with a sigh. He proceeded to spend the rest of the afternoon writing, 'Grey Knight Hector Rex' over and over, putting a little heart over the 'i' every time.
Butcher's Bill? Are you sure that's right? | 8:40 - So they aren't THAT barking? Although who cares if they were?! They can do it. | 14:50 - Ultrasmurf lucky? (as they wear blue) | 34:15 - Where are the Daemons of the 5th Chaos God, Matt Ward?...Friendly fire is that which doesn't hit you. | Break down? Finally, the Commissars have something to do! Deserters!
Hey arch what do we have to do to get you to this style of video for historical battles e.g. Toburk or Kursk. Would be amazing to get history with the Arch flare
So I would build a the mighty Siege Ramp! A Siege Ramp is a ramp build by laying down a mesh and then cover it with dirt and then repeating this to building layers. This is how the The Romans build the 200 foot high ramp they use at Mashada. So why Ramps? One they could be started in areas not covered or not well covered by the towers. Two, once compete the men do not have follow a long path to walls that is overlook by the towers and full of mines. 3, the ramp could be made to allow armor to move up it. They could the use the prisoner to build it. It least 3 ramps should be built started from 3 difference directions. As the work is underway, long range lasguns for Grenadiers and Guardmens and artillery firing on top of the wall to suppress the defenders. Once the ramp done demolition vehicles should be used to blast open the wall. Once that is done the Grenadiers and Guardsmen should move up to the breach ,but, not thought it yet. Because we are waiting for the demon counter attack. This is were the Spacemarine come in they will made into 4 groups. Each Group will be drop on top of the breaches when the the counter attack comes. The 4th Group will be use to help the breach that hit the hardest by the counter attack. If and when the counter attack is defended then they should move inside in 2 waves. The 1th wave is moves through breach and hold the other side. The 2th wave will start capturing the walls. This is to keep the defender from turn the inside area of the citadel into a killing field by firing from the walls and towers. Once the walls are captured. 3 Building be choosing as starting points for undermines. The mines should start from 3 difference directions and aimed reaching the last strongpoint inside the citadel. Once completed the mines will filled explosives. As the mines are being dug, artillery will fire on top of the strongpoint hoping to cause an enough noise to cover the digging of the mines Note : I am not an Iron warrior
Can't you have a second regiment do a diversionary attack along the central section of the southern wall? Yes, that's basically cliff climbing, but US army infantry proved on D-Day of WW2, that you could climb cliffs with enemy forces above you. Steep cliffs can provide cover and concealment, not just enemy made avalanches. The two month bombardment could be time for tunnel engineers to dig into the southern cliff, and under the southern gate, with the artillery bombardments explosions providing possible cover for the tunnel engineers from motion detectors. Even if the cliff was covered by a shield generator, then the diggers would easily be able to run in half an hour across to the cliff face, the first time that the shields went off line.
Even the infantry line cores laser weapons, if it really is just concentrated laser light heat as we know in the real world, then surely the line cores not fighting in this battle could at least point their weapons at the top half of the wall and keep firing from miles away? The sheer volume of laser light hitting over two months, particularly when the shield generators are down, could presumably add to the artillery bombardments? Spotters, scopes, aiming cameras, might all be vulnerable if they behave like they do in the real world to concentrated light energy hitting them, like sunburn from sunlight threw a window is worse then direct sunlight, what do you think a thousand lasers light from miles away going threw your scope and into your eyeball or camera does? If they have laser weapons and space travel but no bipod rest mounts to rest their weapon in a steady position while firing, then surely they can rest it on some terrain like a wall, or rubble or make a makeshift weapon mount. Again, this is to reduce fatigue and keep the weapon steady. Anyone that's had to keep something steady for a long period of time might understand...try keeping small weight like a 500 milligram milk carton in your hand at arms length for ten minutes and you'll see how fatigue sets in.
probably be ineffective. these are fortifications holding up a great deal of artillary bombardment. a bunch of lasgun fire would likely be nothing even over two months
@@NocturnalNugget2 Someone has to look out somewhere, like an aeroplane pilot being dazzled by some that with a laser pen. The lazer does not shoot down the plane directly, but can blind the pilot to potentially crash during landing and takeoff. Similarly on Vraks, the aim is not to destroy a bunker with the lazguns. Instead to blind whoever is keeping watch, and maybe burn away camouflage also.
@@davidodonovan1699 range is still an issue. lets really lowball it and say they are 5 kilometers from the walls in order to not be permanetly under a barrage of heavy artillery fire. their lasguns do not have scopes on them. good fucking luck trying to accurately shoot just a little above the walls from 5 kilometers away with ironsights.
@@NocturnalNugget2 This is where numbers comes in. It's about the volume of fire directed at the enemy positions. The light required to kill someone is far more then the light required to blind them. So as the light presumably disperses over distance, like a lazer pens light does, it covers a far greater area. Now imagine a hundred of those things all aiming in the general direction of the enemy position, and imagine how much light that would spread over a section of the front line. Now imagine a thousand, or ten thousand, of these lazguns, all aiming roughly towards to enemy positions. Accuracy isn't an issue when you can hit everything at the same time in a general area. Plus I imagine some ammunition inside weapons might cook off at that rate. Like the light it takes to kill a man at short range, dispersed over kilometres, hitting the ammunition belt of a machine gun repeatedly, by multiple lazguns. The death core probably wouldn't mind that the round in the chamber is heading their way, as long as the belt or magazine in the gun explodes as a mini grenade inside the enemy fighting position. And that's just the light weapons cooking off. Some heavy guns will have their guns in direct line of sight of the death core, and with the shear volume of lazer fire from massed lazguns, they will hit a heavy gun with its breach open for reloading or maintenance at some point.
So how prevalent tech void shields are in 40K and how portable is such devices, like titans have them and cities have them.. could you not put one on the heavy transport with power source on another, put them on edge of the cliff next to road to citadel and expand the shield to cover the way in.. if nothing else, it would give relative short period of time to infantry move in, drive and prep the transport with big ass breaching charge on it.. drive it to gate and blow it, witch would probably take the shield out as well, but allow then infantry to rush in from relative short distance needed to back out from the blast. Other question comes to mind, is it possible to move asteroids and comets with ships and use them to take out if not all citadel, least its shields? How about using those krieg engineers to dig from friendly area towards the cliff hidden by the two months of artillery fire. Getting close start drilling small holes on night to find the edge. One guy stick head out and tells to go 20 meters right, plugs the hole with rock and then start digging one man wide tunnel under the road leading to gates.. this is then expanded under the gate, stuffed with explosives and blown moment last shield is about to fail, or right when first shield goes on to overload them again rapidly. Then using same tunnel.. or whats left of it and confusion few guards men can start pouring in from the hole with teleporter beacon, placing it on the what use to be gate and few astartes start to materialize into battlefield. Moment the explosion goes off main force starts their assault. Also why not use teleporter to drop in just regular infantry when shield went down, with teleporter beacons, to place them and then let astartes to safely jump in. I'm not familiar how the beacon works, but i assume it scans the environment and makes it so people wont materialize where something solid is, so there can be several of these beacons and even though the tech is from dark age of technology, i assume more beacons can be still produced even if small numbers, as its just sensor to scan the environment and then send the data to ship. Even if few guardsmen is lost inside the walls just pump enough them and they should be able to take out least some of the defenses from the inside. Also when fucking orbital defense laser was turned into ground based weapons, the fleet was not given go ahead to swoop on place to start orbital bombardment and swoop out when time limit is up, given its turning time and charging time is known, or how long it takes to get into geo syncronous orbit and start bombarding? If nothing else this would take lasers attention away from infantry for a bit. There is so many ways to take the citadel i'm kinda appalled why lord inquisitor would use mass infantry charge as the main form of breaching method.
To break it down in order of ideas: 1. There is nothing, to my knowledge, about void shields being put on anything smaller than a titan, even if there were void shields are very expensive and require a lot of energy that you would need a titan at minimum if you want a mobile one. 2. Yes it is possible but, as noted in some of the old lore, they do not do that because it is a waste of time, ships, and resources when you have better ordinance, as noted at the time "rocks are not cheap citizen". Plus if any of the orbital defense lasers are still active and pointing at the sky they can shoot the asteroid or comet being thrown at them out of the way, its course would be a predictable one after all. 3. Not a bad idea actually 4. Teleporter technology is extremely rare, the Astartes would have it of course. Further I am going to presume that the Vraksian defensive structures are all more then 5 meters thick when it comes to walls meaning they will wind up teleported into those walls since 5 meters is the limit. Probably the teleportariums the Space Marines would have here are not large enough to teleport more than a squad or two at a time and teleporter use without teleport beacons being put in ahead of time can wind up with the people being teleported all over the place randomly (including into objects) and the beacons only work with Astartes terminators so likely the regular infantry will be massacred before they can set anything up. 5. That presumes the Navy is still there actually besides supply ships and a guard for them, Navy ships are worth way, way, more than half the 88th Siege Army and they are needed elsewhere all the time. Especially ships with the kind of ordnance needed to take down these shields. Even if they are there "swooping" is not something ships that (depending on lore) are in the range of tens of kilometers can do, they are slow, cumbersome, especially until they manage to get out of orbit. Also it presumes that they were not smart enough to still have more orbital defense lasers pointed at the sky. Really he should have just declared exterminatus and got it over with.
One problem with orbital bombardment you are forgetting is that it is typically *not* a pinpoint process, at least not from the Imperial Navy. (Astartes strike cruisers may be able to initiate more accurate bombardments, but with weapons nowhere as powerful). Regarding the idea of dropping orbital debris on the Citadel, I guess that the Imperial forces are under orders to take the place as intact as possible--it is the property of the Ecclesiarchy, so simply pounding it completely into dust isn't really acceptable... Also, teleport homers are _not_ something that can be made like circuit boards. As you pointed out, those things are from the Dark Age of Technology, so even the Mechanicus barely understand how they work, and they certainly *don't* know how to actually make one anymore. They are rare enough that taking one apart to figure out its workings would be seen as the worst of sacrilege. Remember that the Imperium's relationship with technology can be somewhat analogous to equipping a medieval kingdom with modern-day military equipment. You can probably train the men on how to operate said weaponry and vehicles, and even to perform some basic maintenance, but they aren't going to be able to produce a new M4 carbine or M2 Bradley on their own. Especially not when they are convinced these things work by beneficial magic that they'd rather not screw around with too much. One more point on teleport homers: they are not 100% necessary for teleportation, but they help _a lot_ with accuracy. You don't want to accidentally teleport a squad of the Emperor's finest inside a wall, as that would end up merging the poor Space Marines with the structure of the wall permanently. According to the lore, teleportation overlap has agonizing consequences, enough to make a Space Marine scream in ungodly registers. A strategy that _would_ work better in this scenario is to call in air strikes from the Marauder bombers. In fact, why not have them based on the planet itself so they don't need to expend as much fuel returning to orbit? As for undermining the citadel gates, it's likely that the gates themselves were constructed on ground that is extremely difficult, if not impossible to tunnel through.
I hope that the last video on Vraks is a loyalist Alpha Legion focus. Arch has said on a few occasions how the Alpha Legion are loyalist and I'd like to see a video explaining the motivations and goals on Vraks.
Loyalist angle: They pump a ridiculous amount of Chaos reinforcements, including space marines and titans, into the relatively minor battle at Vraks and they get killed. At least that was the angle Arch presented for Vraks in his, if I remember right, traitor geneseed video a couple years ago.
Google vraks and maybe even Arch and vraks together. Yielded for me results for most of the Artwork. Maybe he'll make the Artwork available Fully once the series is done...
Hey Arch, are you going to continue the Rogue Trader RPG with Kyle, Old Dog and the rest? I've listened to all of them and i want to know what happened with the guy who donated $300 to join your group... and i want to know how things end up for the characters.
for those asking about why the grey knights are being bitches i would say that they dont want to drop into a position where the walls can fire upon them and end up 'wasting' some of their precious knights fighing some lesser deamons in such inopportune circumstances. especially if its only to aid mere guardsmen
The bunkers on the approach hadnt been knocked out... Didnt you just say the attack had been proceeded my engineers making sure the approches were passable? Did none of them think to check the bunkers lining the route?
Planet - ruined.
Population - slaughtered.
Friendly casualties - billions.
Cost in equipment - incalculable.
Imperium: "Ah, the sweet taste of victory."
Just a Average day in the imperium of man.
well, at this point i think not having a DEMON WORLD connected to THE EYE OF TERROR on the middle of the sector IS victory enough
To be fair though, they did kill a boatload of Chaos worshippers, denied the planet's munitions to the enemy, and it's not like they can't repopulate the planet afterwards with the excess population from nearby systems. And it's not like the entire planet is gone, just a small couple hundred square miles turned into a poisonous cursed bog.
Context is important. If the imperium hadn't done what they did it would have been a disaster on a larger scale. This was a pyrrhic victory, but even so, one that was necessary.
Death of Traitors and Heretics - Priceless.
"You only need good men" but having competent commanders wouldn't hurt either!
Ehh, you need men. As long as you have more bodies than they have bullets, victory is assured.
@@McbrideStudios But knifes can be sharpened, stones can be picked.
@@fan9775 Endless demonic entities from the darkest reaches of the humanities gestalt consciousness can be summoned.
Badasses like Tyborc never die, they're just missing in action.
he's a Spartan
Found his skull, it as at Khorne's footstool
SPOILERS: tyborc lives he becomes part of army staff and later in an inquisitor retinue after the war
@@Marinealver hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha that's what he wants you to think.
Pavle Kobilarov Kreigsmen never truly die... they just go to hell and regroup
The hidden catch phrase of the war is "A little light shelling never hurt anyone."
Except the people it killed...of course. LOL
Which is precisely why the Imperium used a lot of heavy shelling instead.
@@pretzelbomb6105 and it still didnt hurt anyone.
Vraks on a sunday?
Very happy gas mask noises.
Inquisition: Alright men, today we are going stomp this drawn out rebellion once and for all in-
Cadian: Here it comes...
Inquisition: massive waves of His Holy Emperor's most devout guardsmen.
Cadian: Knew it...
Krieg guardsmen : ( excited gas mask noises)
Cadian: How are you all not dead yet?!
Squat: That's it, next time I'm asking for a post at Armegeddon...I rather face the Tyranids again than this shite!
Krieg Guardsmen: We are dead. Hell, every guardsman's mom gets ten minutes to mourn when they go to training. Why do you think we have numbers instead of names?
@@ejedwards988 kriegsmen have moms? Pretty sure a grand majority these days are birthed from artificial vagina'/wombs. Being born is kind of a stretch as they are more grown and harvested more than anything else if I remember my lore correctly.
Some of us do indeed have human birth mothers
@@Arphalia yes a large majority are born from artificial wombs but every krieg guardsmen starts as a egg from a over fertile women whose whole life is dedicated to breeding ^_^
@@trenchgaming2166 and they do indeed get their ten minutes of mourning
You know things are bad if you have to use a Zuehlke plan even partially.
*Khorne Daemons charge out of the giant gatehouse*
Grey Knights: i dont see anything down there
Grey Knights : Union rules say I am on break
i would say that they dont want to drop into a position where the walls can fire upon them and end up 'wasting' some of their precious knights fighing some lesser deamons in such inopportune circumstances. especially if its only to aid mere guardsmen
If I remember correctly, its about one out of ten million candidates that actually makes it through the initial trials on the road to becoming a grey knight and the imperium being galaxy wide and daemonic threats all around, there ain't too many grey knights to go around so I can understand them being deployed only when strictly necessary.. what I do not understand tho, is that in this level of operation lead by a lord inquisitor of a sector, there aren't more "regular" astartes deployed in greater numbers.. they have been used in greater numbers against small bands of ork pirates ffs..
edit: yeah I wrote all that before 37:40 and the opening of the great gate.. so.. yeah..
Just remember: it took *literal Khornate daemons of the warp charging at full speed* to finally break the Death Korps’ morale.
Khornate Daemons: Banzai!!!
Kriegers: Kark this! There's no chance in hell at beating THAT!
My main takeaway from this episode is, that Strategic genius apparently doesnt matter on Vraks, since the tactics of Lord commander Zhulka and the Inquisitor dont differ that much
Kagori's plan is actually quite solid. Digging all the way to the citadel's mines and fight all the way up.
However, it's understandable that Lord Hector Rex had to use Zuehlke's plan as his political opponents will keep sabotaging his efforts if the siege kept going for so long.
@@imgvillasrc1608 yet another instance of Politics&Politicians fucking over Billions for their personal gain.....I'm surprised that after over 40,000 years of that bullshit Humanity *still* has not learned to never have Politicians&Politics involved in important shit
@@bjornthefellhanded5655 i mean we've had over 2,000 years ourselves and we still haven't learned that
@@kostakatsoulis2922 and we never will unless we start teaching how shitty we can be to each other in schools. But that would be to 'real' and 'traumatizing' in some peoples eyes so will never happen
Krieg Guardsmen: *Adrenaline Rush Knowing you've made it to the last Boss Level*
Deamonic Army: Is that... what is that we're hearing.. is that giggling? Where is it comin from? It's so loud!
Deamonic Army: By Chaos! It's those gas masked little freaks! Kill them! Kill the creepy bastards!
Krieg Guardsmen: *Giggling sounds increase in intensity*
Dam that's somewhat creepy and hilarious 🤣🤣😆😆
Imperial envoys meeting with the government of Krieg for the first time
Envoys: what will you give as tribute ?
Kriegsmen: (ECSTATIC, GAS MASK NOISES PLANET WIDE)
seeing a GamesWorkShop tv series about the siege of Vraks with no censors goory brutal and misereble as the 41st millenium is would just be wonderful
The Budget needed for thay would be on par with Game Of Thrones
@@mariluzgallardo24 dreams are free...
I would love to see something like "Band of Brothers" but based in the Siege.
@@DeadRobit29 Don't know if I would, the entire cast of the first season would be dead or crippled by the end of the first season; 'tis 40k after all.
Listen kid I'm from the future, your closer then you thought when you said that. . . But oh boy did it age poorly.
"Outfitted with special climbing equipment and weaponry"... Equipment AND weaponry... Climbing claws used in melee...
NOW you're thinking like a Kriegsman !!
Well, likely also weapons better suited to fighting on a cliff face. Carbines and the like, that are less likely to get in the way of the rigging.
@Zev Wilhite Including within the enemies themselves ;7
"NOW you're thinking -like a Kriegsman- !!" 👌
@@pierre-mariecaulliez6285 They make trenches within their enemies while their enemies are still alive to witness the process from start to finish.
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That's a lot of damage!
The aftermath of this assault reminds me of Pickett’s charge. “General Pickett, you must look to your division.” “General Lee...I have no division.”
I thought he said what braged I have no braged
Guardsman: I can still stand
Legs fall of
Guardsman: I can still fight
Arms fall of
My body can still be used as a sandbag.
*Disintegrates*
"...Pave the road with him"
"Come back here you yellow BASTARDS and GET WHATS COMING TO YA!
I'LL BITE YOUR LEGS OFF!!!"
Thousands of demons Space Marines and Millions of Vraksians facing the 88th *Sly Marbo Arrives on the Battlefield* Now it's a fair fight
Only if the entirety of the 88th,the inquisition,the space marines and the grey knights withdrew and left Sly Marbo alone
Irate Inquisitor: I told them! I told them! I told them to just Exterminatus this place and be done with it, but, did you listen? Nooooooooo!
A broken clock is right twice a day as well. Now sit down next to your Red Button and don't Touch it!
Thank you, Lore Daddy.
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Can I just say, after a literal year of videos on the siege, hearing about the men of Krieg facing down horror after horror without so much as a flinch, hearing the Death Korps break and flee made me feel a whole new emotion. I swear these videos are better than most movies.
Gamma-943 walked through the tunnel, scouting far ahead of the main unit. The series of booby traps in the tunnels so far have caused massive cave ins FAR behind the one triggering the blast, so it payed to have a few solo scouts out ahead to make sure that if there was a trap, it wouldn't get everyone.
Gamma-943 was fine with that. In fact, he was eager to do this. He had gotten sent to Vraks over a year ago. He didn't know that it was politics that caused him to be rerouted through multiple "sanitation" lay overs. Boy was he confused when he was asked if he had any fruit he wanted to declare.
So he got here late to the party. The battle was already over. Still, someone had to go into the maze of tunnels under the Citadel. They had to make sure that the tunnels didn't have some sort of cultist cell or something. Every nook had to be checked.
Gamma-943 practically jumped down his commanding officer's throat for the chance. Now he was wandering a series of hand carved tunnels that went down... and down... and down...
He didn't mind. This was what he was trained for. This is what he wanted. He was pumped. He was primed. And little surprise he was caught completely unaware when the butt of a lasgun smashed him in the face.
He came to sometime later. Lasgun pointed at his face. He looked up at the gas mask before him. He blinked and thought, ~Why is a fellow-~ But he cut himself off. It was obvious now, judging by the way his captor's armored uniform was torn open in several places and rotting flesh was exposed underneath.
The both remained still for quite a while. Eventually Gamma-943 started to speak. The rotting guardsman make a quick gesture that was Krieg silent shorthand for silence. Then it pointed its' lasgun at the ground. Gamma-943 turned to look. There was a messenger's satchel lying next to him.
it gestured again, and Gamma-943 slowly picked it up, opened it up, pulled out the first page on top, then started to read it. he just glanced at first, but quickly became transfixed by what he was reading. He looked up to ask, "is this true?" but the rotting guardsman was already down the tunnel and preparing to step out of sight.
It turned to look back. Gamma-943 stared as it held up a device. It was hard to tell in the half light, but it looked like a heavily modified remote detonator. Wires stuck out of it at odd angles. It paused long enough to make a point of letting Gamma-943 see the device, then it turned and disappeared into the darkness.
Gamma-943 was left alone in the tunnel. He would later report the most terrifying part of the encounter was that it didn't make a single sound as it walked, despite how much gravel was underfoot.
Gamma-943 looked into the satchel and found a rusty and corroded shoulder plate. He cleaned it off with his thumb, and stared for a full minute before he shoved it back into the satchel. Throwing it over his shoulder he began to call out for the rest of his squad. He picked up his pace as he went. When he heard a reply from his squad he broke into a run.
He arrived at his squad, breathless. His squad leader was about to chew him out for making noise when Gamma-943 raised a hand and said, "No Time. We have to get out of here. NOW." He coughed then drew in a long breath, "AND we need to get in contact with Lord Inquisitor Rex." He held up the satchel, "Not only does he need to see this, but the rest of these tunnels are all rigged to blow. I suspect we don't have long until this entire area comes crashing down."
The squad leader eyed Gamma-943, then nodded once. Dying didn't bother him, but if the Inquisitor needed this military intelligence, well, they could come back later. You can get more men from Krieg, but you can't always get more information. He gave the signal, and the entire group turned and broke into a march, double time, and proceeded back the way they came.
The rotting guardsman watched from a distance and thought about how long it would take for them to be clear of the tunnels. It figured it wouldn't be long before they made it back up to the safe zone.
It turned and began the long hike back down to the bottom of this maze. Along the way it fingered the detonator. As tempting as it was to set it off now, it knew it couldn't.
It needed to get a warning out. Which is what Gamma-943 was doing right now.
It also had to make sure that the door didn't open in the explosion. It needed to be standing next to said door to be safe.
It picked up the pace letting the distance between it and the other Krieg Guardsmen widen... and widen...
Inquisitorial Archivist Dammer closed the book labeled "The Confession of Epsilon-228". He slowly ran a finger over the old tome. Nearby Lord Inquisitor Navod sat, watching impassively. Eventually Dammer looked up at Navod and...
...said nothing.
After a rather long period of silence, Lord Inquisitor Navod spoke, "You are the one who agreed to this."
Inquisitorial Archivist Dammer let out a long breath and nodded slowly, "Indeed. I brought this down upon myself. I knew there would be knowledge I didn't wish to know, but this..." He gestured to the book then turned back to Navod, "If this is true, then the heart of Segmentum Obscurus could become corrupted at any moment. It hangs by a thread and it is only by the actions of one man-"
Navod interrupted, "One man of Krieg. Do not underestimate the people of that world."
Dammer's eyes slid off of Navod and stared into the distance in contemplation. After a time, he nodded in agreement, "Still... Are there any contingencies?"
Navod shrugged, "We have an inquisitorial outpost that is hidden among the orbital debris. They know what what signs to look for and if needed, as a matter of last resort, they will deploy a planet cracker."
Dammer looked shocked, "But the confession-"
Navod held up a hand, "Might be wrong. If it is, then the planet cracker might put an end to the threat once and for all. If Epsilon-228 is right... well... that would be why we haven't deployed the planet cracker... yet." He sighed and leaned back against a towering book shelf filled with dusty books. As it creaked, he contemplated how many secrets were contained here. True, it'd be simpler to keep it all in electronic files, but those could be corrupted. Chaos had demonic computer viruses. No. It was safer to keep such damnable knowledge on hard copy in vaults such as this one.
Dammer leaned back himself, but was no where near as philosophical as his counterpart, "And it will be up to me to decide when... or if... the planet of Vraks could ever be reclaimed... or if I'm just going to kick this down the road even further." He leaned forward, the legs of his chair connecting to the floor far harder than he intended. The sound of contact echoed throughout the vault. Dammer winced briefly before he continued, "You know I have already been approached by interested parties who have offered large sums of wealth and power if I but open up access to Vraks again."
Dammer raised a hand and moved it over the tome. He left his hand hovering over the confession as if afraid to touch it again. For a moment he felt like something leaped from the book into his very flesh. As if the knowledge inside that book was infectious, leaving him... tainted.
Navod stood up, leaned over, then scooped up the Confession of Epsilon-228 by sliding it out from under Dammer's hand. Navod cradled the book as he walked away, his robes rustling softly, muffling his foot steps across the cold, stone floor. He approached the shelf where from hence it came and lifted it up to the empty space of its' former cradle.
Dammer noted that the light behind the book shelves streamed through that void, silhouetting Navod's face in the process. The light was yellow and harsh and seemed to age Navod before Dammer's very eyes. Navod paused, then spoke to Dammer without looking away from the light, "I do not presume to tell you what to do with this information. It is for you to decide. After all-"
Navod slid the book back into place blocking the light...
and in the process...
cast his face into darkness.
"-you are the next lord inquisitor of Segmentum Obscurus."
@@TheEldritchGod It is a good day, lore video with the bonus of the continuation of the story from you. Yes a very good day all and all. Poor 228, still rooting for the....uh..rotting Krieger...seems he is still loyal to the Emperor.
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Is this an actual short story? Or entirely fan based?
@@lonniebenenhaley2482 Entirely fan created. I compiled everything into one PDF and called it, Tales from the trenches. if you google it and add 40k, it should show up on archive of our own. However, that's an earlier version. I should get around to the final re-edit sometime. If you care, let me know and I'll see about getting the final edit up somewhere.
Funny how they didn't expect the defender gonna roll out daemon , seeing that traitor legions are having a field day on Vraks.
Traitor Patrick "why don't we take the orbital laser and aim it at the death core?"
...
*laser blasting noises*
"hey dave are they shooting the god dam orbital laser at the death core up there what was that noise?"
Navy Officer: They're aiming *all* of their orbital lasers at the infantry? Quick, tell the ground troops to take down their void shield while we get into position to bombard them from orbit!
@@brightblue6184
That is false ... the navy HATEs the death core
@@captainpuffinpuffinson4769so they might hate the death core, but that just means that they don't have to be as precise as usual when firing as they won't care about friendly casualties.
*corps
Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase, "Poor Bloody Infantry". Hail the fallen of the Death Korps.
The art that was shown at the 4:09 mark was incredible. It was visceral, and beautifully created
Just because you're incorporeal doesn't mean I can't SPIKE YOU ON THE END OF MY BAYONET!
*MMMPH MMMMMMMMMMMMMMPPPPPPHHHHHHHHHHHH!*
Bayonet stabs through air as if the daemon doesn't exist.
YOUR SKULL WILL BE MY GIFT TO MY LORD KHONE!!!!!
proceed to decapitate you*
*Faith in the Emperor harmlessly deflects blade as bayonet impacts anyway, shearing you in half.*
No u.
@@mannofdober873 uni reverse card
Edit: *Uno
*Sees Uno card*
*Confused MMMMPHs*
*Shears you into quarters just to make sure*
DK Guardsman in trench: "By the God Emperor I hope that barrage didn't kill all of them. That would suck."
i paused my daily emperor worship for this
*screams in inquisitor* HERETIC!!!
Dude, this is emperor worship, don’t even sweat my dude
@@bloodlove93 *calms in inquisitor* They're a backwards people from a backwards world. They worship the Emperor in strange ways but after *extensive investigation* we have determined that this is indeed Emperor worship.
@@ejedwards988 Aww and i was just about to drop my great company on top of them. Oh well i'm sure their are some orks near by my men, wolves, and dreadnoughts are starting to get hungy
@@spacewolfblackmane19
I thought that there weren't any wolves on Fenris
“Alright men this is the final time we fight and die on this God Emperor forsaken planet. Now men FOR THE EMPEROR!”
qtreis *exhaustingly affixes some random sharp item to end of gun*
And the enthusiastic response proceeds to blow out the eardrums or everyone within a radius of 500meters.
upon hearing the words final time to die, every Kriegsman in a 100km radius angrily chokes down disappointment behind gas mask
Video suggestion. Battletech Lore, the Battle of Tukayyid. Where Space AT&T kicked the clans' ass.
I think the Death Korps would appreciate Comstar's dedication to their version of Tera.
Arch you helped me thru a hard time in my life with these stories. I wish you all the best and much more success.
Noooo! By the emperor, Arch releases a Vraks lore video and I can’t watch it for the next 4 hours. Pure heresy
LETS END THIS HERESY
*Daemons arrive from the warp*
Normal guardsman: *Panics*
Cadian: *Flinches but open fires*
Death Korps: *fixes bayonets as “At doom’s gate” begins to play*
*Slow Heavy Metal plays in the distance shotgun loads*
you forgot: excited gas mask noises
That’s a given by now.
@@Fulgrim2 there is always room for: excited gas mask noises
You forgot
*Mordian:* waiting on new orders eighty miles back. Their commanding officer has been dead for a year.
The Imperium confuses me...
Inquisitors arrive on a planet and find a sect of chaos worshipers under a city - Exterminatus!
Full on rebellion, open war for years, several adeptus chapters report the population is being sacrificed and greater demons are being summoned... - "Meh, send in some more guardsmen"
The use of exterminatus really depends on the temperament of the Inquisitor in question. Seems like Rex doesn't like using it.
@arch warhammer I got started with your videos with the cursed founding lore, got into the rp's and the 3 story lores (horus heresy, armageddon, and vraks) and I can honestly say I love your content. You may very well be the best 40k lore youtuber, i hope that i can learn to be half as good as you one day.
Whoa bro, you don't think onemindsyndicate on his level!?!!??!
@@davinciscode7745 I like many 40k youtubers but arch brings the right amount of personality and information to me.
I know I was just kidding :D @@LudusInfinium
"The Deathkorps of Krieg fled."
Holy shit.
Pfft. This is what you get for drinking the meme kool-aid. You assume the Death Korps would be unstoppable, unshakeable!
They're _human._ Of course they'll flee.
It'll just take longer because their sense of self-preservation is close to non-existent thanks to a quasi-religious cult brainwashing them to make them think they need to redeem themselves from sins _that aren't even theirs!_
@@housecoatgaming even without the meme status, the fact that this happened says millions
@@housecoatgaming welcome to most of the imperium, also welcome to most religions. original sin isnt unique to DKoK by any means.
we would not expect non-kreigers to understand
First onto the breach, in a sucidial charge against a fortress the Imperial Fist would nod approvingly at?
*Happy Gasmask Noises*
Kriegsman: Ok guys this is the last mission, this end here... We fight more years in this planet that living in our own so... If one of your want to die before going home this is your last chance.
Krieg: We can panic before diyng?
Kriegsman: If there are Demons yes, if not regular death like always.
What it takes to break a death korps regiment:
-March into prepared positions.
-Lose all your transports.
-Lose your armoured support.
-Have no access to reinforcements.
-Get charged by daemons.
-Suffer casualties in extend of 70% of total strength in a single day, including all officers.
God emperor bless you glorious bastards.
not a true "break". the grenadier stood their ground, remember?
Arch please give us a lore video on the Praetorian Guard! Great video btw as usual!
The only condition is that he has to do it in a highly exaggerated Victorian-English accent
@@marcusaustralius2416 I'd be down for that xD
Stop begging.
@@DragonHammer45
>Have an anime profile pic.
>Have an opinion of any worth.
Pick one
@@MaximusAquilas Greentext posting immediately disqualifies you from ever having an opinion of merit. I at the very least, still have a choice. You, however, forfeited that a long time ago. Go back to your Mongolian cave-painting board.
Someone singing "war what is it good for" that foolish person would be stabed simultaneous by a khorn worshiper and Krige guard men whom would then pressed to stab each other until a mountain of dead would remain. Some where in the warp khorn would smile for the first time in his existence.
Given the scale and extent of warfare in the 40K universe, Khorne has had ample reason to be smiling, if not pissing himself laughing for the last 40 millennia. There has never been a shortage of blood, skulls, and glorious or pathetic deaths to sate the blood god's insatiable appetite.
Was that plateau outside the gate not good enough for a bit of Grey Knight teleportation. I mean seriously its the Inquisitorial Death Corp and they're forgetting about the fact its Chaos calling the shots. There's plot armour, and then there's a plotline clad in wraught iron that drags just a tad.
this might be ever so slightly late (siege of vraks the grey knights not dropping into some bloodletters when the krieg guardsmen were getting fucked by them) i would say that they dont want to drop into a position where the walls can fire upon them and end up 'wasting' some of their precious knights fighing some lesser deamons in such inopportune circumstances. especially if its only to aid mere guardsmen
I'm not gonna lie, the method and means of attack of the 261st against the gate is kind of reminiscent of the 54th Massachusetts assault on Fort Wagner in the American Civil War. At least, to me it seems so.
99% Casualties, just another tuesday for the Death Korps, must be truly a nightmare for Commisars.
They have commissars?
@@TypeZeta2 They do, that is, if they didn't execute them for cowardice
@@TypeZeta2 Commissars assigned to Death Korps units have a thankless job- they have to wrangle the men and women of Krieg to for when the Big Push happens.
The 1d4 chan wiki puts it well enough:
"Kriegers will leave a Commissar a wreck because they have to keep convincing the men that while it's laudable to die for the Emperor you have to do so while trying to kill His enemies. It's like herding sheep: if you keep your eye off of one for too long it'll be gone. Except this sheep wears a gas mask, digs a trench, bombards the enemy with mortar fire, then goes over the top and gets gunned down without achieving anything. Oh, and there's millions more like it."
The Commissars of the Death Korps have to convince their charges to make their sacrifices worthwhile.
Not just sacrifice themselves pointlessly at the first possible opportunity.
And they have to be more Gung ho and zealous than the Kreigers in the process to get their respect, because their usual tactic of fear- blamming people- doesn't work.
More than one commissar has been executed Death Korps guardsmen for cowardice when they were in fact just acting in a militarily intelligent way.
This is your best series yet. More prolonged war stories please!
Thanks, Arch. Appreciate the Efforts. Much respect.
I've been waiting for this for so long, been a hell of a week, glad to see I can bury myself in some death and carnage for a bit
Tyborc doesn't die, he just goes to hell to regroup.
And the Grey Knight do diddly ding dong.... sitting in orbit.... waiting some more weeks befor taking the ALL the glory. Gotta love the emperor "finest".
Still curious about what the Hell happened in the swamp that has them signalling reinforcements, that's never a good sign.
I just realized that trying to take the citadel is like trying to take fort Wagner in the fact only one regiment could assault at a time
That's what happens when you lack intelligence on the enemies defenses.
If they would have known Demons were involved an Astartes Chapter would have led the assault into the Citadel.
"Forward, you dogs! Today is a good day to die!"
These videos remind me of the WWII history videos i loved when the history channel actually showed history. Excellent work!
UA-camrs do it better then the history channel
Yes. New maps. Send more maps
*Excited gas mask noises*
Let us drive up one narrow road with thousands of guns shooting at us.
Genius.
Well the idea was that there would not be hundreds of thousands of guns shooting at us if we attack from 3 sides... but that kinda failed... also it was only infantry and sadly some armor that was blown, so minor loses.
It's sunday and we are blessed with Archs lore video, such hapiness
It feels like the start of that mission in Battalion Wars 2 where as the Tundrans you must rely heavily on your infantry while supporting them with Artillery, knowing full well that you can't replenish your infantry.
Shouldn't the Marauder Vigilants have seen the bunkers on the 7th company's approach?
You sir are the master of cliff hangers and teases. Give just enough to make us keep coming back.
you'd come back regardless for this crack don't lie
"Would finally be over."
Disappointed gas mask sounds
You would THINK the krieg guardsmen would start to catch on to potential trap areas after so long.. But NUUUUPE
Or the fact that nearly every time the artillery fails to knock out significant portions of the defenses. Every single time.
Gotta love the only way chaos allways wins is plot armor so thicc not even adamantium can penetrate it.
Ah, the sound of heavy ordnance on a Sunday afternoon.
Yay! New Vraks!... Perfect timing! I got my headphones, and I am in a Waiting Room...!!!
I'd love to have a video about another primache next!!
Magnus the red or Lorgar maybe
The one blamed for shit, or the one that actually aimed the shit towards the galactic sized fan
Where were the Gray Knights? The main gate was opened. Demons were flowing out of it in an unstoppable wave. The Citadel had no AA support do to the defenders using them to kill infantry. Could someone explain why the Gray Knights were not deployed to take the citadel?
They were still limbering up.
Takes time to oil my manly space marine pecs bro. Important stuff, y'know?
Lord Inquisitor Rex took a play from the Zulkur Playbook and threw a glass against the wall
"Where were the Gray Knights? The main gate was opened. Demons were flowing out of it in an unstoppable wave. That would have been the ideal time to jump in!" He paused to press both fists against his desk causing it to creak in protest, "Could someone explain why the Gray Knights were not deployed to take the citadel?"
From the shadows a Grey Knight who just teleported in steps out, "We were still oiling up." He then teleported away.
Lord Rex Spun around looking at the empty space, "What?"
The Grey Knight teleported back in, "It takes time to oil my manly space marine pecs, Bro. Important stuff." He teleported away, but then immediately reappeared, "And I'm still working on my hair. I have to let these luscious locks sit in conditioner at least an hour a day." He held up a hand to fluff out his hair for Lord Rex to observe, "Gift from the Emperor's Gene seed. Awesome Hair."
Lord Inquisitor Rex face grew red with rage, until he saw the hair, then his rage dissipated, "Oh. Well. Yeah. That is awesome hair. I get it now."
The grey Knight then lifted his chin to look down at Lord Rex, "We'll jump in at the last minute when we look suitably awesome because the God-Emperor Gene seed makes us unmitigated drama whores." Then teleported away.
Lord Inquisitor Rex stared at the empty space, and sat down with a sigh. He proceeded to spend the rest of the afternoon writing, 'Grey Knight Hector Rex' over and over, putting a little heart over the 'i' every time.
Huzzah! My drunken outbursts are cannon now! Happy gas mask noises.
Butcher's Bill? Are you sure that's right? | 8:40 - So they aren't THAT barking? Although who cares if they were?! They can do it. | 14:50 - Ultrasmurf lucky? (as they wear blue) | 34:15 - Where are the Daemons of the 5th Chaos God, Matt Ward?...Friendly fire is that which doesn't hit you. | Break down? Finally, the Commissars have something to do! Deserters!
Imagine a fps shooter of this battle made by a very well funded developer who cherishes the wh40k universe.
Do you enjoy respawning?
@@hectorandem2944 respawn simulator the game
War. War never changes.
Hey arch what do we have to do to get you to this style of video for historical battles e.g. Toburk or Kursk. Would be amazing to get history with the Arch flare
Siege of terra lore series next???
So I would build a the mighty Siege Ramp! A Siege Ramp is a ramp build by laying down a mesh and then cover it with dirt and then repeating this to building layers. This is how the The Romans build the 200 foot high ramp they use at Mashada. So why Ramps? One they could be started in areas not covered or not well covered by the towers. Two, once compete the men do not have follow a long path to walls that is overlook by the towers and full of mines. 3, the ramp could be made to allow armor to move up it.
They could the use the prisoner to build it. It least 3 ramps should be built started from 3 difference directions. As the work is underway, long range lasguns for Grenadiers and Guardmens and artillery firing on top of the wall to suppress the defenders. Once the ramp done demolition vehicles should be used to blast open the wall. Once that is done the Grenadiers and Guardsmen should move up to the breach ,but, not thought it yet. Because we are waiting for the demon counter attack. This is were the Spacemarine come in they will made into 4 groups. Each Group will be drop on top of the breaches when the the counter attack comes. The 4th Group will be use to help the breach that hit the hardest by the counter attack.
If and when the counter attack is defended then they should move inside in 2 waves. The 1th wave is moves through breach and hold the other side. The 2th wave will start capturing the walls. This is to keep the defender from turn the inside area of the citadel into a killing field by firing from the walls and towers.
Once the walls are captured. 3 Building be choosing as starting points for undermines. The mines should start from 3 difference directions and aimed reaching the last strongpoint inside the citadel. Once completed the mines will filled explosives. As the mines are being dug, artillery will fire on top of the strongpoint hoping to cause an enough noise to cover the digging of the mines
Note : I am not an Iron warrior
Can't you have a second regiment do a diversionary attack along the central section of the southern wall?
Yes, that's basically cliff climbing, but US army infantry proved on D-Day of WW2, that you could climb cliffs with enemy forces above you.
Steep cliffs can provide cover and concealment, not just enemy made avalanches.
The two month bombardment could be time for tunnel engineers to dig into the southern cliff, and under the southern gate, with the artillery bombardments explosions providing possible cover for the tunnel engineers from motion detectors.
Even if the cliff was covered by a shield generator, then the diggers would easily be able to run in half an hour across to the cliff face, the first time that the shields went off line.
"The Hammer Started Its Strike, But The Enemy Parried. The Sword Is Yet To Be Seen."
Arch love this series! Btw starting watching the video, and then I got the notification.
Even the infantry line cores laser weapons, if it really is just concentrated laser light heat as we know in the real world, then surely the line cores not fighting in this battle could at least point their weapons at the top half of the wall and keep firing from miles away?
The sheer volume of laser light hitting over two months, particularly when the shield generators are down, could presumably add to the artillery bombardments?
Spotters, scopes, aiming cameras, might all be vulnerable if they behave like they do in the real world to concentrated light energy hitting them, like sunburn from sunlight threw a window is worse then direct sunlight, what do you think a thousand lasers light from miles away going threw your scope and into your eyeball or camera does?
If they have laser weapons and space travel but no bipod rest mounts to rest their weapon in a steady position while firing, then surely they can rest it on some terrain like a wall, or rubble or make a makeshift weapon mount.
Again, this is to reduce fatigue and keep the weapon steady. Anyone that's had to keep something steady for a long period of time might understand...try keeping small weight like a 500 milligram milk carton in your hand at arms length for ten minutes and you'll see how fatigue sets in.
probably be ineffective. these are fortifications holding up a great deal of artillary bombardment. a bunch of lasgun fire would likely be nothing even over two months
@@NocturnalNugget2 Someone has to look out somewhere, like an aeroplane pilot being dazzled by some that with a laser pen.
The lazer does not shoot down the plane directly, but can blind the pilot to potentially crash during landing and takeoff.
Similarly on Vraks, the aim is not to destroy a bunker with the lazguns. Instead to blind whoever is keeping watch, and maybe burn away camouflage also.
@@davidodonovan1699 range is still an issue. lets really lowball it and say they are 5 kilometers from the walls in order to not be permanetly under a barrage of heavy artillery fire. their lasguns do not have scopes on them. good fucking luck trying to accurately shoot just a little above the walls from 5 kilometers away with ironsights.
@@NocturnalNugget2 This is where numbers comes in.
It's about the volume of fire directed at the enemy positions.
The light required to kill someone is far more then the light required to blind them. So as the light presumably disperses over distance, like a lazer pens light does, it covers a far greater area. Now imagine a hundred of those things all aiming in the general direction of the enemy position, and imagine how much light that would spread over a section of the front line.
Now imagine a thousand, or ten thousand, of these lazguns, all aiming roughly towards to enemy positions.
Accuracy isn't an issue when you can hit everything at the same time in a general area.
Plus I imagine some ammunition inside weapons might cook off at that rate.
Like the light it takes to kill a man at short range, dispersed over kilometres, hitting the ammunition belt of a machine gun repeatedly, by multiple lazguns.
The death core probably wouldn't mind that the round in the chamber is heading their way, as long as the belt or magazine in the gun explodes as a mini grenade inside the enemy fighting position. And that's just the light weapons cooking off. Some heavy guns will have their guns in direct line of sight of the death core, and with the shear volume of lazer fire from massed lazguns, they will hit a heavy gun with its breach open for reloading or maintenance at some point.
Arch, please do a lore video on the Iron Warriors also known as "what if DKOK were space marines"
“WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE” standard guardsman. “WHOOHOO!” Standard Krieg Korpsman
Thanks Arch
Gonna be listening to this while weeding my garden lol
So how prevalent tech void shields are in 40K and how portable is such devices, like titans have them and cities have them.. could you not put one on the heavy transport with power source on another, put them on edge of the cliff next to road to citadel and expand the shield to cover the way in.. if nothing else, it would give relative short period of time to infantry move in, drive and prep the transport with big ass breaching charge on it.. drive it to gate and blow it, witch would probably take the shield out as well, but allow then infantry to rush in from relative short distance needed to back out from the blast.
Other question comes to mind, is it possible to move asteroids and comets with ships and use them to take out if not all citadel, least its shields?
How about using those krieg engineers to dig from friendly area towards the cliff hidden by the two months of artillery fire. Getting close start drilling small holes on night to find the edge. One guy stick head out and tells to go 20 meters right, plugs the hole with rock and then start digging one man wide tunnel under the road leading to gates.. this is then expanded under the gate, stuffed with explosives and blown moment last shield is about to fail, or right when first shield goes on to overload them again rapidly.
Then using same tunnel.. or whats left of it and confusion few guards men can start pouring in from the hole with teleporter beacon, placing it on the what use to be gate and few astartes start to materialize into battlefield. Moment the explosion goes off main force starts their assault.
Also why not use teleporter to drop in just regular infantry when shield went down, with teleporter beacons, to place them and then let astartes to safely jump in. I'm not familiar how the beacon works, but i assume it scans the environment and makes it so people wont materialize where something solid is, so there can be several of these beacons and even though the tech is from dark age of technology, i assume more beacons can be still produced even if small numbers, as its just sensor to scan the environment and then send the data to ship. Even if few guardsmen is lost inside the walls just pump enough them and they should be able to take out least some of the defenses from the inside.
Also when fucking orbital defense laser was turned into ground based weapons, the fleet was not given go ahead to swoop on place to start orbital bombardment and swoop out when time limit is up, given its turning time and charging time is known, or how long it takes to get into geo syncronous orbit and start bombarding? If nothing else this would take lasers attention away from infantry for a bit.
There is so many ways to take the citadel i'm kinda appalled why lord inquisitor would use mass infantry charge as the main form of breaching method.
To break it down in order of ideas:
1. There is nothing, to my knowledge, about void shields being put on anything smaller than a titan, even if there were void shields are very expensive and require a lot of energy that you would need a titan at minimum if you want a mobile one.
2. Yes it is possible but, as noted in some of the old lore, they do not do that because it is a waste of time, ships, and resources when you have better ordinance, as noted at the time "rocks are not cheap citizen". Plus if any of the orbital defense lasers are still active and pointing at the sky they can shoot the asteroid or comet being thrown at them out of the way, its course would be a predictable one after all.
3. Not a bad idea actually
4. Teleporter technology is extremely rare, the Astartes would have it of course. Further I am going to presume that the Vraksian defensive structures are all more then 5 meters thick when it comes to walls meaning they will wind up teleported into those walls since 5 meters is the limit. Probably the teleportariums the Space Marines would have here are not large enough to teleport more than a squad or two at a time and teleporter use without teleport beacons being put in ahead of time can wind up with the people being teleported all over the place randomly (including into objects) and the beacons only work with Astartes terminators so likely the regular infantry will be massacred before they can set anything up.
5. That presumes the Navy is still there actually besides supply ships and a guard for them, Navy ships are worth way, way, more than half the 88th Siege Army and they are needed elsewhere all the time. Especially ships with the kind of ordnance needed to take down these shields. Even if they are there "swooping" is not something ships that (depending on lore) are in the range of tens of kilometers can do, they are slow, cumbersome, especially until they manage to get out of orbit. Also it presumes that they were not smart enough to still have more orbital defense lasers pointed at the sky.
Really he should have just declared exterminatus and got it over with.
One problem with orbital bombardment you are forgetting is that it is typically *not* a pinpoint process, at least not from the Imperial Navy. (Astartes strike cruisers may be able to initiate more accurate bombardments, but with weapons nowhere as powerful). Regarding the idea of dropping orbital debris on the Citadel, I guess that the Imperial forces are under orders to take the place as intact as possible--it is the property of the Ecclesiarchy, so simply pounding it completely into dust isn't really acceptable...
Also, teleport homers are _not_ something that can be made like circuit boards. As you pointed out, those things are from the Dark Age of Technology, so even the Mechanicus barely understand how they work, and they certainly *don't* know how to actually make one anymore. They are rare enough that taking one apart to figure out its workings would be seen as the worst of sacrilege. Remember that the Imperium's relationship with technology can be somewhat analogous to equipping a medieval kingdom with modern-day military equipment. You can probably train the men on how to operate said weaponry and vehicles, and even to perform some basic maintenance, but they aren't going to be able to produce a new M4 carbine or M2 Bradley on their own. Especially not when they are convinced these things work by beneficial magic that they'd rather not screw around with too much.
One more point on teleport homers: they are not 100% necessary for teleportation, but they help _a lot_ with accuracy. You don't want to accidentally teleport a squad of the Emperor's finest inside a wall, as that would end up merging the poor Space Marines with the structure of the wall permanently. According to the lore, teleportation overlap has agonizing consequences, enough to make a Space Marine scream in ungodly registers.
A strategy that _would_ work better in this scenario is to call in air strikes from the Marauder bombers. In fact, why not have them based on the planet itself so they don't need to expend as much fuel returning to orbit?
As for undermining the citadel gates, it's likely that the gates themselves were constructed on ground that is extremely difficult, if not impossible to tunnel through.
I hope that the last video on Vraks is a loyalist Alpha Legion focus. Arch has said on a few occasions how the Alpha Legion are loyalist and I'd like to see a video explaining the motivations and goals on Vraks.
Loyalist angle: They pump a ridiculous amount of Chaos reinforcements, including space marines and titans, into the relatively minor battle at Vraks and they get killed.
At least that was the angle Arch presented for Vraks in his, if I remember right, traitor geneseed video a couple years ago.
so did colonel tyborg survive i saw an article online saying he did?
he ended up on the inquisitor's staff, i think
You should be on the History channel doing warfare documentaries
Might as well just have blown up the planet at this point.
Death Korps commanders have worse luck than love interests in the TV show Bonanza.
This made my day much better.
Kreig guardsmen must hear about how things always get worse on Vraks and jump gleefully when picked to serve there.
Also, do you have a folder or website with all the custom artwork you've used in this series?
I'm looking to use a couple as screensavers
Google vraks and maybe even Arch and vraks together. Yielded for me results for most of the Artwork. Maybe he'll make the Artwork available Fully once the series is done...
And to think the atmosphere would normally dissipate the beam if shot upwards.
Nah mate, not this time lol
Do the Damocles gulf next
Hey Arch, are you going to continue the Rogue Trader RPG with Kyle, Old Dog and the rest?
I've listened to all of them and i want to know what happened with the guy who donated $300 to join your group... and i want to know how things end up for the characters.
Uh oh, sounds like the space marines will get all the glory while the lowly guardsmen bleed out in the vrakian clay without ever firing a shot again.
I see Vraks vid, I watch Vraks vid.
*Ecstatic gasmask noise galore*
Daemons, Hellbeasts and a side helping of extra devils - where in the Emperor's name where the Grey Knights?
Praying. They're definitely praying. They'll be done in another three years or so.
Waiting for their shipment of Sisters of Battle grade paint to arrive.
for those asking about why the grey knights are being bitches i would say that they dont want to drop into a position where the walls can fire upon them and end up 'wasting' some of their precious knights fighing some lesser deamons in such inopportune circumstances. especially if its only to aid mere guardsmen
my friend stephen loves the siege of vraks
The bunkers on the approach hadnt been knocked out... Didnt you just say the attack had been proceeded my engineers making sure the approches were passable? Did none of them think to check the bunkers lining the route?