RE DRAFTING The 2017 NHL Vegas Expansion Draft

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 115

  • @ohtristan_
    @ohtristan_ Рік тому +127

    should definitely do this again with Seattle, there were so many players that Seattle didn't take

    • @jonah.donohue
      @jonah.donohue Рік тому +9

      Way too early

    • @kiriyamathelama1809
      @kiriyamathelama1809 Рік тому +1

      Dude the player they did take from the caps ended up coming straight back what the hell were the kraken doin

    • @Tickleyourpickle420
      @Tickleyourpickle420 Рік тому +4

      ​@@kiriyamathelama1809acquiring draft capital. It isn't like the Kraken gave him away for free

    • @kabelguy70
      @kabelguy70 Рік тому

      yeah we traded vanecek and pitlick, then lost bayreuther for nothing@@kiriyamathelama1809

    • @isurrender3640
      @isurrender3640 Рік тому +3

      @@kiriyamathelama1809they had a plan that is obviously working pretty well. It’s not always as simple as taking the best player available.

  • @THELEAFSFAN
    @THELEAFSFAN Рік тому +33

    I had no idea that Joe Thornton was left unprotected in the expansion draft. I learned something new today.

    • @jonmendelson1104
      @jonmendelson1104 Рік тому +4

      That's really a technicality. The expansion draft took place June 18-20 and his contract expired on July 1st. I'm sure the Sharks had a handshake agreement with him that if he was taken in the expansion draft they'd sign him again once his contract expired a couple weeks later.

    • @Habsfan56744
      @Habsfan56744 Рік тому

      I had no idea the Darcy kumper was on Minnesota

  • @RevahsMada
    @RevahsMada Рік тому +26

    Engelland wasn’t captain for Vegas, they didn’t name one until Stone in 2020

  • @scottjordan5721
    @scottjordan5721 Рік тому +18

    I honestly learned a lot in this video. Never knew that Kuemper was a Wild.

    • @hello9592
      @hello9592 Рік тому +2

      Darcy Kuemper was a Wild but I don’t remember him being a Wild this late I could’ve swore that the Wild got rid of him pre 2016 replacing him with Devin Duebynik

  • @themarksman1313
    @themarksman1313 Рік тому +14

    Pretty sure Abdelkader had an NMC so they had to protect him

  • @BobbyLove4
    @BobbyLove4 Рік тому +10

    I believe Josh Manson was not selected because the Ducks gave up Shea Theodore to protect Manson. I think the Knights would make the same decision again.

  • @slasher1087
    @slasher1087 Рік тому +21

    There is a really weird group of people I have been seeing lately saying Vegas got nothing but 2nd line players when they drafted 😂😂. Funny thing is that not a single anylist, announcer, betting line, advanced stat, writer or youtube personality said Vegas would be any good after that draft. Some of those teams couldn't get rid of players fast enough. Teams like Minnesota and Florida who absolutely gifted Vegas MORE than anything they could have wanted. Seriously this is how the phone call went for the Florida draft picks.
    Vegas: Hey Florida we see that you left Marchessault unprotected even though he was one of your best players last season. Gallant really liked him so we will take him off your hands.
    Florida: yeah well if you want Marchessault you also have to take Smith!!! He had one down year so we hate him now!
    Vegas: But we are only asking for Marchessault.....
    Florida: YOU ARE TAKING SMITH TOO!!!
    Vegas:.......ok....we will take Smith too
    Florida turns away from the phone and starts talking to someone else in the room: I can't believe those idiots in Vegas. They fell right into our trap of leaving Marchessault exposed, don't they know hes only 5'9 😂😂. They also took Smith 😂😂😂. Man we are smart!!! Bjugstad is the future of this franchise!!!

    • @Leptitjeunehomme
      @Leptitjeunehomme Рік тому

      Yeah, second guessing is easy. Now tell me that you already knew how good marchessault was before vegas without lying. Tell me more about shea theodore and all the players. Like you said, they took all 2d liners, its better to have a load of 2d liners than a couple of superstars with nothing around, like edmonton

    • @Leptitjeunehomme
      @Leptitjeunehomme Рік тому

      Humble down, you didn’t they would be that good either

    • @slasher1087
      @slasher1087 Рік тому +2

      @Leptitjeunehomme exactly my point. Even the fans the first year thought well its a expansion team but its our first pro league team so we will just have fun with it. Nobody in the fanbase and especially nobody outside of the fanbase thought the Knights would be any good. Then they were good and everyone wanted to do revisionist history and say they knew they would be great.

    • @slasher1087
      @slasher1087 Рік тому +2

      @Leptitjeunehomme the point was that Vegas didn't get a bunch of 2nd liners and that nobody saw their success coming. Yet after they started winning, everyone online started talking about how the team was gifted, all the picks were 2nd liners (they werent), everyone knew they would be great (they didnt)

    • @ct-117
      @ct-117 10 місяців тому

      @@Leptitjeunehomme he scored 30 goals for the Panthers in 2016-17

  • @chadrichards6607
    @chadrichards6607 Рік тому +8

    I would have liked it more if he said who Vegas actually drafted on every pick instead of sporadically

    • @OhNyquist
      @OhNyquist  Рік тому +2

      I’ll keep this in mind if I do something like this again!

    • @BaneOfV
      @BaneOfV Рік тому

      Eh their actual draft was just okay, got their value from the trades

  • @mattgardiner744
    @mattgardiner744 Рік тому +2

    My boy Borocop, what a legend

  • @tyler_okamoto
    @tyler_okamoto Рік тому +1

    Maaaan, I’ve been wanting to do a video like this myself for some time now. Great list! Especially since you couldn’t make deals like with Minnesota, taking Haula and getting Tuch as well.

  • @nhl22sucks
    @nhl22sucks Рік тому +3

    Can you rank NHL teams by their defence core

  • @michaelb5119
    @michaelb5119 Рік тому +1

    Damn so many vids. The ohnyquist golden age

    • @OhNyquist
      @OhNyquist  Рік тому

      Time to start getting in mid season form

  • @radekdickinson5772
    @radekdickinson5772 Рік тому +3

    I wonder how the opening night lineup would look like with the roster you drafted

    • @martyrose97
      @martyrose97 Рік тому +1

      Exactly. I would’ve liked to see how he would roll out his lines and D-pairings. Wish he added that to the end of the vid.

  • @chadrichards6607
    @chadrichards6607 Рік тому +3

    You could do an all time team for all the nhl teams start with Detroit 4C LW RW 6D 2G I would love it ! 😊 big fan keep up the good work kiddo!

  • @darrellmackinnon1667
    @darrellmackinnon1667 Рік тому +1

    *DucksFan who's PTSD is still going nuts..no reason Manson should have been protected over Shea Theodore.*

  • @mitchellskene8176
    @mitchellskene8176 Рік тому +4

    Can you do something similar, with other expansion teams (whether Seattle or expansion teams prior to Vegas)?

    • @DarkLobster69
      @DarkLobster69 Рік тому +2

      I think it’s too soon to do Seattle but I agree with other expansion teams

    • @jonah.donohue
      @jonah.donohue Рік тому

      Way too early for Seattle😊

  • @macmillan_kai
    @macmillan_kai Рік тому

    Reunited coyotes goalie tandem with Kuemper and Raanta, love it

  • @undraftedhockeyfan
    @undraftedhockeyfan Рік тому +1

    It’s crazy to learn where some of these other players played at 😮

  • @LatinxGoyslop1994
    @LatinxGoyslop1994 Рік тому

    I love redraft videos.

  • @phanatic599
    @phanatic599 Рік тому +1

    gotta do this with seattle next!

  • @welcome2detroit800
    @welcome2detroit800 Рік тому

    This was probably one of the coolest vids

  • @chillantic.
    @chillantic. Рік тому

    this video idea is so clever

  • @SURVIVORkid23
    @SURVIVORkid23 Рік тому +1

    I’m pretty sure Radulov wasn’t signed with Montreal until after the expansion draft because he wanted to play for Montreal & Montreal didn’t want to waste one of their slots on him so that’s a wasted pick that wouldn’t happen, he wasn’t eligible

  • @melaneylane6805
    @melaneylane6805 Рік тому

    Great video.
    Just one thing i noticed.
    Mark Giordano was taken from the Flames. He was named first captain and then traded later.

    • @Mazkawaa
      @Mazkawaa Рік тому +1

      Bro 😂😂 its the Golden Knights not the Kraken

  • @michaelpostsstuff9958
    @michaelpostsstuff9958 Рік тому +1

    Some fun names Vegas could have selected: Shane Doan, Drew and Ryan Miller, TJ Oshie, Yanni Gourde, Nail Yakupov, Jaromir Jagr, Andrei Markov, Jarome Iginla, Joe Thornton, Patrick Marleau

    • @martyrose97
      @martyrose97 Рік тому

      I’m not sure about the rest of those guys, but T.J. didn’t sign his extension until right after the draft because it helped them protect and extra forward. He could’ve immediately left and signed back with WSH in free agency. Ovi did the same thing during the SEA draft. Nice little loophole they’ve used twice. 😂

  • @Bowlingsloth1982
    @Bowlingsloth1982 Рік тому +1

    Nick sazuki was drafted by Vegas then traded to Montreal Canadians

  • @SaltyLegion
    @SaltyLegion Рік тому

    good one -it was fun. Love your channel.

  • @colbykampman594
    @colbykampman594 Рік тому

    You should do a winnipeg jets one

  • @Imalesbianbutimale
    @Imalesbianbutimale Рік тому +1

    Do the Minnesota and Columbus draft next?

  • @father042
    @father042 Рік тому +1

    You should do video like this with Blue Jackets or Thrashers

  • @jonathanboivin9454
    @jonathanboivin9454 Рік тому

    Did not remember Rust was left unprotected. Would've really blossomed with vegas IMO

  • @richardlaporte7061
    @richardlaporte7061 Рік тому

    I thought that you would show a potential line up would have been great but still love it, still salty vegas beat jets in 5 that year tho

    • @OhNyquist
      @OhNyquist  Рік тому

      Ah I should have, will definitely if I do something like this again with other expansion teams!

  • @dominiclameboy1546
    @dominiclameboy1546 Рік тому +1

    Radulov was a free agent so it was risky

  • @VeikkausMaister
    @VeikkausMaister Рік тому

    This is good video

  • @miniperico4499
    @miniperico4499 Рік тому +1

    You should throw this team in NHL 17 to see how they do

  • @owenhillman1712
    @owenhillman1712 2 місяці тому

    anti raanta would’ve been cool, but they had a deal i. place with the coyotes

  • @beardedbeaut92
    @beardedbeaut92 Рік тому

    I believe the wings had to protect Abdelkader due to a NMC

  • @dukem991
    @dukem991 Рік тому

    That would have been a hell of a team

  • @Leptitjeunehomme
    @Leptitjeunehomme Рік тому

    Man, i didn’t even know shea theodore before vegas and i think he is probably on the first pairing with team canada, olympics or world cup anytime

  • @keepitlinyear
    @keepitlinyear Рік тому

    also remember jordan binnington was unprotected

  • @Smitie2000
    @Smitie2000 Рік тому

    Could you do a part 2, but do the Seattle kraken

  • @hockeycardcollecters
    @hockeycardcollecters Рік тому

    Can you do a redraft of the 03 6th round?

  • @samarthdoraiswami9484
    @samarthdoraiswami9484 Рік тому +1

    Radulov would have been ufa

  • @mikewharton469
    @mikewharton469 Рік тому

    With how you led up to it, I'm calling some red wings bias with picking Alex chasson

    • @OhNyquist
      @OhNyquist  Рік тому +1

      I promise you I have absolutely zero emotional attachment to Alex damn Chiasson lol

  • @deltagolavista1
    @deltagolavista1 Рік тому

    Boro probably would have been the pick from Ottawa if Phaneuf didn’t think he was god’s gift on the backend and waived his NMC allowing the Sens to protect Erik Karlsson’s defence partner in Methot. Still makes me angry to this day.

  • @yangionet8116
    @yangionet8116 Рік тому

    Now you can do Columbus and Minnesota 2000

  • @nicojestadt4520
    @nicojestadt4520 Рік тому

    Wait... Shea Theodore wasn't picked from the ducks?

    • @OhNyquist
      @OhNyquist  Рік тому

      He wasn’t available, he went to VGK as part of a trade.

  • @Alex_Eder
    @Alex_Eder Рік тому +5

    As a Panthers fan I would like to say please no

  • @WaybetterthanBron23
    @WaybetterthanBron23 Рік тому

    Was watching college football
    Saw this pop up though

  • @jackdrams3416
    @jackdrams3416 Рік тому

    What goalie are you losing on waivers? Can’t keep all of those guys. Shoulda grabbed a prospect that you can move to the AHL

    • @OhNyquist
      @OhNyquist  Рік тому

      Very good point, didn’t really think of that!

  • @gabrielkrzysiak7497
    @gabrielkrzysiak7497 Рік тому +1

    Anaheim traded Theodore to Vegas for Vegas to pass on Manson

    • @OhNyquist
      @OhNyquist  Рік тому

      Yes

    • @cranehook4715
      @cranehook4715 Рік тому +1

      And the Florida trade was Marchessault for Vegas to take Reilly Smith's contract. He had the right idea, just the names backwards.

  • @CheeseGrater69
    @CheeseGrater69 Рік тому +1

    bro forgot about the salary cap

    • @OhNyquist
      @OhNyquist  Рік тому

      This team is way under I made sure ;)

    • @CheeseGrater69
      @CheeseGrater69 Рік тому

      @@OhNyquist even in 2023? that's shocking

  • @ariccua6101
    @ariccua6101 Рік тому

    03:22 What's funny is that Chiasson won the Cup with WSH against VGK that year.

  • @G0lden-lu6by
    @G0lden-lu6by Рік тому

    The trades really made that team, that and absolutely strongarming GMs of cap strapped teams, who were doing pretty desperate deals that sort of looked good at that time for said GMs ie "look at the cap and scrubs we unloaded for some picks and B/C-prospects. The idiots, hahaa!".
    Obviously this does not include the Panthers, those deals were bad then and well... they gave up the 2023 Conn Smythe winner enough said.
    No fan of Vegas what so ever, hate that cutthroat wheelin and dealin they do with absolutely no loalty, but what they did in the expansion draft was so good the GMs around the league learned their lessons and gave Seattle none of those deals Vegas got. Absolute masterclass.

  • @NathanExplosion1989
    @NathanExplosion1989 Рік тому

    Weegar only had 3 games played in his career so he was exempt I believe

    • @OhNyquist
      @OhNyquist  Рік тому

      He was available! I’m not sure what the technicality’s where but he was on the list of players available.

    • @NathanExplosion1989
      @NathanExplosion1989 Рік тому

      @OhNyquist you're totally right I misread the rules, he had two ahl seasons previous and the rule was "two professional seasons" not "two nhl seasons"

  • @LilWeggies
    @LilWeggies Рік тому

    Why would you change anything? They got 3 wins away from a Stanley cup with that team they got from the 2017 expansion draft+ players traded to them because of it. I don’t think there’s any change you could make to make them better than that

    • @Something7348
      @Something7348 Рік тому +4

      He literally never said they would be better than what they got it’s just for fun 🤦‍♂️

    • @OhNyquist
      @OhNyquist  Рік тому +1

      ^^

  • @NorthernKnights
    @NorthernKnights Рік тому

    Shocking how poorly the established teams played this

  • @dghbbxd5379
    @dghbbxd5379 Рік тому

    Why go with Manson? Terrible

    • @OhNyquist
      @OhNyquist  Рік тому +1

      Who else would you have chose tho

  • @gimmick7389
    @gimmick7389 Рік тому +2

    ah the special privilege draft

    • @Something7348
      @Something7348 Рік тому

      WAAAAAAAH PRIVILEGE DRAFT WAAAAAAAAAAH, is everyone who hates Vegas just crybabies or is it just you

    • @jonah.donohue
      @jonah.donohue Рік тому

      YEP

    • @csharp48
      @csharp48 Рік тому +2

      You're right they should be trash for 20 years like Colombus and Minnesota. That's how you build a successful league.

    • @jonah.donohue
      @jonah.donohue Рік тому

      ​@@csharp48One sided league. Keep the known teams in the spotlight and dispatch everyone else

    • @csharp48
      @csharp48 Рік тому

      @@jonah.donohue what the fuck does that have to do with Vegas?

  • @ExplorationRandomDestination

    Expansion teams need to start at the ducking bottom not the top. Should take half a decade to build a playoff team not a theft draft.

    • @Something7348
      @Something7348 Рік тому

      Boohoo cry more Jesus Christ

    • @csharp48
      @csharp48 Рік тому +1

      They got absolutely STEAL top pair defensemen Luca Sbisa and Nate Schmidt. What team isn't clamoring for the likes of that?
      Which player on here is a superstar and a crazy unfair steal from other teams? Karlsson? He scored like 8 goals in 3 years before VGK.
      Marc-Andre Fleury? Everyone was saying he was washed up and Fleury literally ASKED his GM to trade him to Vegas.

    • @supermegaguy666
      @supermegaguy666 Рік тому +4

      They were supposed to be at the ducking bottom. Their success came as a surprise

    • @Something7348
      @Something7348 Рік тому +1

      @@csharp48 EXACTLY

  • @NHLMasterLikeAndSUBSCRIBE
    @NHLMasterLikeAndSUBSCRIBE Рік тому

    Creative video do one with other expansion teams throughout history

  • @gocanuckurself1
    @gocanuckurself1 Рік тому

    Do the Kraken draft next

  • @NHLMasterLikeAndSUBSCRIBE
    @NHLMasterLikeAndSUBSCRIBE Рік тому

    Creative video do one with other expansion teams throughout history