Can an I7-4770K Match A Modern CPU For Gaming | Does an I7 4770K Bottleneck a Modern GPU?

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  • Опубліковано 7 вер 2018
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    In this video we test out the veteran intel I7-4770K and put it up against an I7-8700, a Ryzen 2600X and a Ryzen 2700X. We overclock the Haswell based processor and find out how well the Intel I7-4770K handles modern games and if you're going to be bottlenecked with a gtx 1080 or similar graphics card.
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  • @mapesdhs597
    @mapesdhs597 5 років тому +137

    Please do NOT use graphs that have a non-zero origin. This is a terrible practice to employ when presenting visual data. The whole point of a graph is to give an *immediate* impression of difference based on the graph structure alone; this is ruined if one has to check text somewhere on the graph to determine what the data is actually revealing. Many of the graphs here are not effective at imparting information, they exagerate the differences far too much. People use statistics as a drunk uses a lamp post: for support rather than illumination. :)
    Other than that, good video! One thing btw, couldn't care less about 200fps. Why people are so obsessed with mental frame rates these days is beyond me. We'll never have another Crysis moment if people have become that sensitive to frame rate expectations.

    • @TheRealJohnHooper
      @TheRealJohnHooper 5 років тому +6

      True.. absolute no go..

    • @shaynegadsden
      @shaynegadsden 5 років тому +3

      Well you can get 240hz monitors so i guess fps up to that is important to atleast some people

    • @wing0zero
      @wing0zero 5 років тому +7

      You miss the point of high fps, it's not just fps that improves input latency improves with the fps and it's the 2 together that give the experience, say input latency at 60 fps is 30ms at 120 fps it's 15ms so at 240 fps it's 7.5ms, it's a pretty liner scale.

    • @420f37
      @420f37 4 роки тому

      i guess people who care about immense amounts of fps have high refresh rate monitors, like myself.

  • @keokio7
    @keokio7 5 років тому +37

    impressive in a sense that the 4770k is holding up well. Unimpressive in a sense that in all these years Intel has basically done nothing

    • @DrxSlump
      @DrxSlump 5 років тому

      Totally agree. Also AMD doesn't make that much of a difference either. I have high hopes for the Zen 2 series though.

    • @keokio7
      @keokio7 4 роки тому

      @Space from Alien games dont require the best cpu I agree I'm still on my 4770k but I dont game anymore. I like how AMD is changing the cpu market and moving things forward. Nowadays gaming alone is not enough.. you're gonna game, stream, record, edit videos all at once and it's made possible now because of what AMD has done

  • @dark666105
    @dark666105 5 років тому +16

    Kinda misleading when you use different scales for similar charts, one chart for deus ex at 1080p you have it going from 0-120 and for 1440p you have it going from 65-68.5 which makes the 1440p one look like a much bigger difference than it is. Please be consistent with displaying similar data.

  • @Najvalsa
    @Najvalsa 5 років тому +108

    Start your charts at 0.

    • @eolle43
      @eolle43 5 років тому +2

      Why? It adds nothing. :)

    • @musclesmouse
      @musclesmouse 5 років тому +13

      Starting at zero to compare between numbers is important. Comparing graphs where some start at zero and some 90 is bad. Makes the difference look way exaggerated. 5:24 --> . Do you see a difference between 93 to 98 FPS? No, but that damn graph looks like 4770k is 1/3 speed of 8700. Can be a manipulation for TL;DR type people to say 4770k just blows after just glancing at that graph

    • @eolle43
      @eolle43 5 років тому

      @Tom Ho WTF? We are not comparing "in between" the numbers. We are looking at a discrete end point of average frame rates that could have been displayed with a table. This is standard graphical display of information. To include the 0 just because adds zero information in this case is not necessary.
      Based on your own comments a whisker or IQR plot would not be useful because the bar doesn't' extend a bar to zero? That is just crazy. Do you actually think that a card that can do 60 fps cannot by definition be de tuned to do worse? By posting the avg.framerate as an comparison point it is understood that the card could display at lower but why would you? Do you think you can a game is playable a 0 FPS? Would 0 fps be a useful measure for a GPU? Only time mine does 0 fps is when it off.

    • @cekseh
      @cekseh 5 років тому +9

      You do not understand why charts by all professionals should start at zero. It's about scale, and making the chart actually be representative of any useful information.
      If you are comparing 2 sports cars one goes 120mph and the other goes 120.8mph, and you display it in a chart starting and ending at 119-121mph........ that .8 difference is going to look fucking HUGE. If you make another chart with it displaying 100-122mph it will look insignificant. If you make another chart from 0-160mph the bars will look damn near identical. This is why scale matters. Because when you fuck it up your charts and graphs become meaningless.
      That chart would be useless to anyone able to think about the numbers, much like what paul did in this video.

    • @eolle43
      @eolle43 5 років тому

      @cekesh Are you an expert in the field? I don't think so since I can show you thousands of peer reviewed papers that have graphs that do not include zero. Next, E. Tufte's book on Visual display of quantitative information directly disagrees with your comment. But then I guess you can show me your book.
      Finally, this is why most professional avoid bar graphs when a table will suffice. It cause untrained individuals to think that there is information between zero and minimum frame rate.
      Have you even had HS physics yet?

  • @sandberg1006
    @sandberg1006 5 років тому

    Do you expect a similar situatio with the 3570k? I'm planning on upgrading to the third generation of Ryzen processors next year

  • @J0niex
    @J0niex 5 років тому

    In this exact situation Paul, thanks for the video :D

  • @brinosacheryl4348
    @brinosacheryl4348 5 років тому +10

    i still love my i7 4770k + sapphire nitro+ rx 580 8gb. no reason to upgrade yet!

    • @jaquenhgar4251
      @jaquenhgar4251 5 років тому

      I have the same gpu and a i7 4771, 32 gb ddr3 1600mhz... i dont need to upgrade anything. Still running my games full hd + 200fps

    • @king15060
      @king15060 5 років тому +1

      I'm a half step back. i7-4770 (non-k) and a Rx480 8gb. Just came here to confirm I'm still in a good place. lol

  • @WittyGooseRacing
    @WittyGooseRacing 5 років тому

    I'm on a I5 4690K, thinking of going for a I7 4770k or a 4790K. Do I need the upgrade for 1440P above 100 fps?

  • @vladimirmarinov6730
    @vladimirmarinov6730 5 років тому +3

    Starting graphs at 90... Do you understand the entire point of "visual representation"?

  • @mackay250
    @mackay250 5 років тому

    Great video!! A worth while watch for all of us wandering if we should upgrade or not.

  • @freddyc2378
    @freddyc2378 5 років тому

    I'm running a Intel Xeon e3 v 1231 and want to buy the rtx 2060
    What do you think about it?

  • @goddess_hylia_
    @goddess_hylia_ 5 років тому

    I have the Intel 4770K too and was wondering if a RTX 2080 Ti would bottleneck it? Just wondering before I buy the card. I currently run 2 Titan X Maxwell cards in SLI. Should I upgrade to RTX 2080 Ti or upgrade my CPU like a Ryzen Threadripper 2950X?

  • @shiros4ki-1
    @shiros4ki-1 4 роки тому

    So what does it mean? It’s better to upgrade the graphic card and keep the i7 4770k OC even for newer game ?

  • @jeffmorse645
    @jeffmorse645 5 років тому

    Helpful! I have an old PC with a G3258 in it and am eyeing this CPU to upgrade it to get back into gaming after a long break. I was wondering if it was worth it or if I should just get a new PC. I think its worth $120 for a used i7-4770k instead.

  • @anlozmerdivenli6730
    @anlozmerdivenli6730 5 років тому +1

    i7 4770k overclocked yes I could understand it. But it overclocked @ ? Ghz. I want to know it. Can you help me?

  • @Yozzeus
    @Yozzeus 5 років тому

    Question for you. Build: Maximus VI Gene .Gpu GTX 770 Sli .64Gb Ram ddr3-4 I cant remember Corsair. And I cant pull more than 65 fps AT BEST in most games.....also my I7 4770K heat up very quickly and I'm running it with the ROG turbo Boost...around mid 80 to 91-93

    • @Yozzeus
      @Yozzeus 5 років тому

      Ahh btw forgot to mention I changed and carefully applyed an high density Silver thermal compund to the cpu and gpu's ( but the gpu remain at around 60C degrees) .what's wrong with my setup?

  • @henningot2
    @henningot2 5 років тому +1

    i got also a 4770k (@4,2 ghz ddr3 2000 mhz) and a RTX 2080 Gaming X Trio and get some time fps drops , in some games there are havy after loading the map but few secounds later every thing works just fine. I play in 1440p

  • @Superb_Legend
    @Superb_Legend 5 років тому

    Wish overclocking my cpu did anything I don't see any difference. Plus after a year of no issues my 4.4 oc from 4.0 started crashing every game after 10-20min.

  • @fabiusmaximuscunctator7390
    @fabiusmaximuscunctator7390 5 років тому

    The faster memory does the trick in CPU bound scenarios. That's why the changed to DDR4 on Skylake because DDR3 wasn't fast enough.

  • @Aint1S
    @Aint1S 5 років тому +3

    You know, Haswell i7 was the first generation for the current cores that Intel is running... Micro code for how it handles memory is about the only thing that has been changed, other than extremely minor optimizations in architecture. Intel's on that treadmill that AMD was on before Ryzen, they're stuck.
    I still have mine and use it, but I'll about to jump ship for the 3900X or more than likely it'll just be the 3950X with the 8 core dies being more optimized than the 6 core counterpart in the 3900X. I need more cores for things other than gaming and setting core affinity is a must for me.

  • @Kirinketsu_
    @Kirinketsu_ 4 роки тому +1

    I have been having motherboard or ram issue and man I just can not get myself to upgrade to even the 3600x over my 4770k I would have to go with 9700k and at that point I am spending what $600 for an upgrade that is good but not next gen like I would like it to be. Maybe I will upgrade to the i3 or i5 10 series if they really are 4/8 or 6/12 if not Ryzen 4000 until then I think I will just try deliding the 4770k so I can OC it at 4.5/4.6 24/7 and not the 4.2 it is running at.

  • @vipermonkey8
    @vipermonkey8 5 років тому

    just what i was looking for as i have 1080 with a 4470k thanks for the info

  • @TechWizMaster
    @TechWizMaster 5 років тому +7

    4770K @4.2ghz with GTX 1080 OC here i game at 2560x1440p 144hz Gsync and also Oculus rift and the CPU is still flawless.

  • @ThomasPotato
    @ThomasPotato 5 років тому

    I have an i7-6700k OC and a GTX 1070 OC and run a bunch of games at 1440p Max settings, really happy with my setup, it'll need upgrading eventually, but for now, I think I'll be good at least another 2-3 years.

  • @Wrugoin13
    @Wrugoin13 4 роки тому

    This was a very helpful video. I have an i5-4670k OCd to 4.5GHz with a 980ti. From this, I would conclude a CPU upgrade would give me little performance improvement at 1440p unless I also upgrade the GPU.

  • @browaruspierogus2182
    @browaruspierogus2182 5 років тому

    I don't know how even cpu power affects gpu performance... There should barely be any differences. Could it be that some stuff is software emulated or precomputed on CPU? That just doesn't make sense

  • @Zarcondeegrissom
    @Zarcondeegrissom 5 років тому

    That is a good test, very nice. Despite what some are saying about a graph, the results are in line with what some were saying about the 2600k a year or so back. If you had a lucky CPU that could do 4+ GHz, the cost of DDR4, and a new motherboard, and a 7700k or 8700k, really pushed the envelope of what the gains would have been for the cost. well over a grand for a CPU+MoBo+Ram for only a few FPS, vs much less for a new GPU that would give you a lot more FPS, well, lol.
    Great vid Paul and Crew. B)

  • @OllieW501
    @OllieW501 4 роки тому

    Anybody running a 4770k with ultrawide?
    I have a 1080ti, overclocked 4770k (4.6) on air, just ordered an Alienware ultrawide with g sync.
    Conscious this might struggle to push the frames at 1440p and 120hz?
    Anyone got a similar setup?

  • @masonsnyder8975
    @masonsnyder8975 5 років тому

    I've been stuck on my PlayStation. This entire year! Zero Horizon Dawn god of war and now Spider-Man I really haven't played s*** on the computer but I want to do a new-build soon. I have a Sandy Bridge I5 k. With a 1070 TI how much bottleneck you think I'm getting?

  • @Marco-tb5dc
    @Marco-tb5dc 4 роки тому +2

    Hi bro!!!
    It was very useful! I was about to upgrade my CPU, but making that test, maybe I'm gonna wait for DDR5 RAM to come
    Thanks!!!!!!

    • @robw7381
      @robw7381 4 роки тому

      Next gen consoles not out until late next year will be 8c 16t zen2 so not worth upgrading your cpu for a few years.

    • @robw7381
      @robw7381 3 роки тому

      @dapper patto I'd stick Nvida even though you can get more bang for buck with AMD their drivers suck and nvdia has a special nvec codec for streaming built in. I have a 1660 super for mid range 60fps gaming so either that or 2060 you should be fine. AMD I'd get a 5600XT. If you need cheaper 1650 super is also a good card.

  • @dawgzofwar6674
    @dawgzofwar6674 5 років тому

    which mis aero is that..is it any good?

  • @alferret1969
    @alferret1969 5 років тому +1

    This is why I still rock my i5-4690k @4.4 with a GTX1080 it still worls bloody well.

  • @maydaygoingdown5602
    @maydaygoingdown5602 5 років тому

    Great video and still a fantastic CPU.
    Much better than the usual Ronnie Rumours.

  • @EscapeVelo
    @EscapeVelo 5 років тому

    I gave two Dell Optiplex i7 3770 units to my brother and father, one with a GTX 750 Ti and the other with a GTX 1050 Ti, both with 500 GB SSDs. Great budget rigs.

  • @pr0xZen
    @pr0xZen 5 років тому

    If you're already on a 4770k/4790k, one thing to consider with an upgrade is that you won't just need to buy a CPU and a motherboard, but you _have_ to buy new RAM too. 4790k and z97 is it, thats the end of the road for DDR3. A decent GPU however, you can take with you to "any" system with a later upgrade.
    If you're willing to delid and squish some liquid metal in there, 4770k usually do around 4.7GHz before they start needing heavy fiddling and loads of voltage, but they slso run at least 20°C cooler too.

  • @TheCgOrion
    @TheCgOrion 5 років тому

    This is great. I've been thinking about upgrading my i5 4690 to a i7 4790k. This is a secondary system, (we have a Ryzen 7) but I wanted to breath a little more life into it. The pricing is nuts though. You can get a better Ryzen and board for the same price. Admittedly I would need Ram too, so it might be a good idea.

  • @raf1760
    @raf1760 4 роки тому

    does my 4770k bottleneck my 1080Ti ? i have FPS issues with CS:GO for example, but not others games

  • @fffUUUUUU
    @fffUUUUUU 5 років тому +42

    Finally something besides the rumors ranting on this channel

    • @HAHA.GoodMeme
      @HAHA.GoodMeme 5 років тому +2

      It's a good video, gives me some insight that makes me happy about sitting on my current build. But also makes me salivate for 7nm...need to max out this 240hz monitor

    • @LovemitE4DiscoMusic
      @LovemitE4DiscoMusic 5 років тому

      ikr xD

  • @joewheelar
    @joewheelar 5 років тому +1

    Moar sick graphz muzick.

  • @Pillokun
    @Pillokun 5 років тому +7

    I am using an i7 3770k as my daily system, but I also have or rather had an i7 6700(non-k) oced to 4.8 and a r6 1600 oced to 3.9/3200-3333 cl16 and my good old ivy still can keep up especially when my ram is running at 2133 cl 12. No need to get anything more right now as in practice I only get about on avg 5-10fps more with the skylake i7(osd figures with afterburner which is always on when I game.)

    • @Pillokun
      @Pillokun 5 років тому

      @@ronald666mcdonald just search techpowerup and overclocking non k cpuz pn z170 boards

    • @9manny99
      @9manny99 5 років тому

      Skylake had a BIOS on Z boards that let you overclock non-K chips.

  • @Hxarh
    @Hxarh 5 років тому

    Appreciate most of your work, but today, some of the graphs are really bad. Like Arkham night max.

  • @paper_warrior
    @paper_warrior 4 роки тому

    I'm using 2560x1080. In a couple of days I'm gonna swap 1660Ti for 5700xt. 4,3ghz for now. Maybe new psu will let me push it further. I'm in love with 4770k. Bought it for 120$ and delidded. 55° after OC. Air Cooled with Scythe Mugen 5 pcgh. Still worth it if you ask me.

  • @MrAmalthejus
    @MrAmalthejus 5 років тому

    You made me feel better about my 4700. Thank you😛

  • @Pototoes949
    @Pototoes949 5 років тому +1

    I love my 4770K, @4.2ghz with 1060 3GB it runs all my games very well. I won't upgrade till 2x performance is hit with a 300ish dollar cpu. The charts are all messed up and misleading, some are zoomed in and some look like they start from a zero base.

  • @SikSlayer
    @SikSlayer 5 років тому

    I have a 4771 at 3.5GHz and it’s still good enough for me. Had it since 2013.

  • @Republic3D
    @Republic3D 5 років тому +8

    My old computer was an i7 4770k with a GTX 770, 16GB RAM bought in 2013. I swapped the 770 out with a used 1060 6GB and it was able to run every new game at 1080p at high FPS. Sold it for 600 pounds. I think they got a good purchase.

    • @indescribableemptiness4104
      @indescribableemptiness4104 5 років тому

      Wow my pc is the exact same as yours when I built it 6-7 years ago. And that’s really nice that you sold it for a great price 👍

  • @pandemon1o
    @pandemon1o 5 років тому

    how i can overcloak my cpu i7 4770k

  • @MarcParisTV
    @MarcParisTV 5 років тому

    Well, ready for core i9 9900k or r7 2800x?...:) Again... Big cpu are not meant for gaming.. :) Battlefield or assassin's creed series are able to use more cpu cores.. :) By the way, i'm still keeping my 4770k undervolted at 3.5ghe on my htpc... :) My only concern is core 0 is always higher than others cores, something related to presence of ram controller as far as i remember.

  • @boss351gt6
    @boss351gt6 5 років тому

    I'm excited to see what happens to gaming performance when multi threading is more widely utilized.

    • @Lightitupp1
      @Lightitupp1 5 років тому

      It already is widely utilized, the thing with gaming is that most games use 1 core for the main game loop hence why Intel is winning in gaming due to better single core performance. Games are not really comparable with synthetic tests which Ryzen does really well in.

    • @boss351gt6
      @boss351gt6 5 років тому

      @@Lightitupp1 which is why it will be interesting when games utilise more than one core.

    • @Lightitupp1
      @Lightitupp1 5 років тому

      They already do to a large extent

  • @orwa475
    @orwa475 5 років тому

    Hey dude im planing to buy i74770 and pair it with 1060 6gb will it hold a log like 5 years from now ? Or i will need a sooner upgrade?

    • @Matthew-no4dn
      @Matthew-no4dn 5 років тому

      That's kinda what I'm thinking about doing, you'd defi tiely need to overclock

    • @kustu
      @kustu 4 роки тому

      @@Matthew-no4dn 4770 can handle RTX 2060 OC...

    • @Matthew-no4dn
      @Matthew-no4dn 4 роки тому +1

      @@kustu well my reply is 1 year old lmao don't think that card was released then and if he wants it to last for 5 years he probs will need to overclock near the end

  • @jasonking1284
    @jasonking1284 5 років тому +5

    GOTO 5:20 TO SKIP ALL THE WAFFLING....

  • @adam346
    @adam346 5 років тому +1

    my non 4770k was about 60% as good as my oc'd 8600k and does not bottleneck a gpu in any way... unless your looking for 144hz at 1080p.

  • @10649chris
    @10649chris 5 років тому

    I have an I7 4770K (@4,3Ghz, 1.280V) with a 1070 and have no problems playing rainbow with my 1440p 144hz screen. However, I noticed that Battlefield V Beta is very CPU demanding and overclocked a little bit. All in all i think the 4770K is still a great gaming CPU. But I am not sure what difference the RAM makes (using 16GB @ 1600mhz CL9)

    • @Lightitupp1
      @Lightitupp1 5 років тому +1

      Faster ram eleviates a CPU bottleneck

  • @darkwizard9027
    @darkwizard9027 5 років тому

    smeagol is that u ?
    nice video btw ..

  • @bwm9637
    @bwm9637 5 років тому

    Please do it again with the RTX2080TI I have a 4790K on 4400Mhz on all cores but doubt to buy a RTX because bottleneck Gpu with that processor.I realy ask myself if the 1080TI is the max for this Cpu

    • @wing0zero
      @wing0zero 5 років тому +1

      My friend has a 4790K and a 1080Ti, his 4790K is at 4.7GHz I think, I have a 8700K with a 1080Ti and my 8700K is at 5.2GHz, your already at the limit but it's game dependant, games like driving where there not too CPU heavy we get similar fps but in CPU heavy games I can get quite a few more FPS out of the 1080Ti, so yeah if you want a 2080Ti build a new system, 9700K out soon would go nice with it, you will get some more FPS in some games if you go for a better OC if your cooling is up for it.

    • @leeoloughlin9249
      @leeoloughlin9249 5 років тому

      To be honest why would you wNt a 2080ti sure theres a performance uplift of around 35% at 4k anything less than 1440p is a waste of money. The 1080 ti will do all the above. Plus its half the price for 35% less. If you were buying a 2080 ti you wouldent be pairing it with a 4770k m8 as if your spending 1200 noted on a gpu u can afford at least a basic 4k monitor. Im using an 8700 with a 1080ti and its good enough for 4k all day long. Ive a 4790k @4.8 with 2x fury cards and that will do 4k too

    • @bwm9637
      @bwm9637 5 років тому

      I’am running 3 40 inch screens ultra HD @ 7600 x 1440 resolution
      With everything on medium/low settings on a Gtx970 on 85 frames
      So its not to CPU demanding ( 40% )but i want it al maxed out
      In VR its more demanding so when I buy a card I want to be future proof if I upgrade and no 2 year old hardware

    • @leeoloughlin9249
      @leeoloughlin9249 5 років тому

      @@bwm9637 i doubt that a 2080 ti will push your res maxed everything with the bling on youll prob need 2 , hello 2.5k bank balance

  • @fayainz
    @fayainz 5 років тому

    I'm running a 4670K @ 4.8Ghz (a lot of voltage yes), and I ended up getting a 1080Ti to replace my GTX770 and it's held up, I'm super impressed considering it has no HT on the i5. Im able to play most games at 4K and over 60fps! So when in doubt, just upgrade the damn GPU

  • @ZimbabwayZ
    @ZimbabwayZ 5 років тому +36

    paul looks like shrek when he turned into a human

    • @Kcimor78
      @Kcimor78 5 років тому

      😂😂

    • @Herbert2892
      @Herbert2892 5 років тому

      More to Halloween's Michael Myers...

    • @anonresistance4149
      @anonresistance4149 5 років тому

      Well Shrek is sexy AF so thats like a compliment

    • @xpodx
      @xpodx 4 роки тому

      That was mean, hes dope af.

  • @RiskyBRiskyB
    @RiskyBRiskyB 5 років тому

    video actually starts at 3:10, the rest before is just exposition dialogue.

  • @jaster9870
    @jaster9870 5 років тому

    What about when it comes to multi GPU's how does this effect performance on an older CPU like this, and running higher Rez monitors like 1440, and 4k?
    I have 2 1080ti's and a 4790k would there be much performance difference if I upgrade to say the upcoming 9900k?

    • @Lorten369
      @Lorten369 4 роки тому

      so what did you end up doing? i only just upgrated to 4770k 4.5ghz and it rocks. now my gtx 970 is halting behind. but i do fiddle a lot with everything so my system is running super nice no background proccesses or anything. like killed of windows snooping also. so with that clean system it's not worth buying new for me for the next few years. before the industries settle the fued :P

  • @drunkrdm
    @drunkrdm 5 років тому

    wow your keyboard and mouse are loud...

  • @praveenbhat5392
    @praveenbhat5392 5 років тому

    Does 4770k gets hot ?? I heard it gets quite hot .

  • @teko7076
    @teko7076 4 роки тому

    So: if i overclock my 4770k i dont have bottleneck whit a 1660ti?

    • @OllieW501
      @OllieW501 4 роки тому

      Not with that card I don't think

    • @kustu
      @kustu 4 роки тому

      I have 4770 and rtx 2060, and no bottleneck

  • @mesicek7
    @mesicek7 5 років тому

    Those graphs lmao. If i was blind i'd be thinking damn that cpu is almost half faster :D

  • @rimax82
    @rimax82 5 років тому

    my 4770k @4.2 GHz with 1080ti still rocks! =) waiting for the new ryzen 3xxx...

  • @williamcrooksii9139
    @williamcrooksii9139 4 роки тому +1

    Miss those days when the question was simple as "Can it run Crysis. Now people freak out when your not doing over 9000 fps 😆

  • @leowalter6138
    @leowalter6138 5 років тому

    actually with intel K line u need to be able to have ur money back, if the processor isn't able to overclock u just loose ur money!

  • @mrdeathgaming1457
    @mrdeathgaming1457 4 роки тому

    vulkan appy?

  • @timcarpenter2441
    @timcarpenter2441 5 років тому

    Not a 4790K? I have that beauty and reluctant to upgrade.

  • @stefanbrigantini6834
    @stefanbrigantini6834 5 років тому

    Upgraded from 4670K to 4770K
    Your video made me feel relieved :-))
    Also upgraded GTX 1070 to RTX 2070
    no difference but feels "mentally" better ...

    • @indescribableemptiness4104
      @indescribableemptiness4104 5 років тому +1

      Nice! Could you have also just bought another 1070 and run it in sli? The 1070’s are still holding up very well even by today’s standards

    • @kustu
      @kustu 4 роки тому

      @@indescribableemptiness4104 Don't buy SLI in 2020...

  • @AlexanderKalish
    @AlexanderKalish 5 років тому +10

    Paul, start your graphs at 0! Your way of representing the data is misleading for a person that doesn't actually read all the numbers but rather just looks about the relative line length and there's a lot of people that do that. Stop it!

  • @fayaflai
    @fayaflai 5 років тому

    I have a 1080ti and an overclocked 4770k. I notice that i'm bottle necked on certain games, but not all. Mostly the shitty optimized games are the one with a bottleneck.

  • @blackknight50277621
    @blackknight50277621 5 років тому

    Pairing a 4.5ghz 4790k with an oced 1080
    Perfect couple

  • @DomRivers67
    @DomRivers67 5 років тому

    3770k is fine up to GTX1070, 4770k fine up to GTX1070ti, or even (with some bottlenecking in some games) GTX1080, using 16gb in dual channel, start getting faster GPU's though you are going to be really holding things back.

  • @AshleeSmithDJ
    @AshleeSmithDJ 5 років тому +2

    1/10 Graph ability
    1/10 Hairstyle
    8/10 Video

  • @xylotism
    @xylotism 5 років тому

    That monitor is bigger than my house

  • @VaderWhoop
    @VaderWhoop 5 років тому +1

    I've got an aio cooled i7 4770k that I run at 4ghz on an Asrock z87 pro3 board with 16gb gskill ddr3 1600.
    Been using an old evga gtx750ti on it but I'm getting an msi 1660ti ventus xs oc card in a few days.
    This video gives me confidence that things will go well at 1080p considering my tv/monitor is limited to 60fps and HDMI input.

    • @HurricaneMike513
      @HurricaneMike513 4 роки тому

      Did you ever upgrade the card? I have the same cpu on the same board but with a evo 212. Playing Gears 5 with a 1060 on half ultra/half high settings and I’m surprised how long this build has lasted me

  • @alexthesniper1952
    @alexthesniper1952 5 років тому

    Tbh my i7 3770 is fine without even being a k model anyways I got like the highest clocked non ocable ram in my machine when you factor in cache latiencies tbh my 1050 ti holds it back,

  • @Tekagi502
    @Tekagi502 5 років тому

    I hate the creative lengths of the bars used. The bar for the 8700 at 68.3fps is more than twice the size of 4770k at 66.3 .... wtf? Guess showing the true comparable differences would be too boring if all the bars look almost the same, but subconsciously your brain see's a large difference.

  • @xpodx
    @xpodx 4 роки тому

    I agree bro.
    A nice solid cpu, and beefy gpu(s), cuz i like higher res and at least 60fps ultra high settings at 5k!!
    I7-4770K/1080ti (sli, next year)

    • @jz2927
      @jz2927 4 роки тому

      And which motherboard would you suggest for such set up

    • @xpodx
      @xpodx 4 роки тому

      @@jz2927 for my cpu or a different cpu?

    • @jz2927
      @jz2927 4 роки тому

      @@xpodx for i7-4770k /1080ti/32gb ddr3- it's exactly what I have, however, motherboard died yesterday and I'm searching for a replacement. I'm still unsure it's it's better/cheaper(in the longer run) to get a mobo that fits ddr3- and i7-4770k or to get DDR4 16gb, new mobo, and a new processor

    • @xpodx
      @xpodx 4 роки тому

      @@jz2927 dang.. well.. you'd have to find a buyer.. but let me look real quick for you on ebay

    • @xpodx
      @xpodx 4 роки тому

      @@jz2927 rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F323948914463

  • @BorealSine
    @BorealSine 5 років тому

    I own i7 4770 non K 3.7ghz and its terrible, in BF 1 I get the same fps as users with 8700k + GTX 1060, but I have 1070. In watch dogs 2, AC Origins, BF 5, Mirrors Edge Catalyst, Ghost Recon Wildlands I see almost 80-100% cpu usage all the time which causes bad frame times, micro-stuttering. Fps can be 55-100 in those games but the gameplay isn't smooth at all and every time there is an explosion or smth fps can drop from 80 to 53 and cause those stutters. Overclocking would help I guess but it's non K cpu. And by looking at youtube videos of other people having overclocked quad cores I definitely see that they are dying quickly. So 80 fps on i7 8700k and 2700x are most likely to be very smooth with great frame times while old quad-cores especially i5's will struggle a lot. For those who don't get what I'm saying then try to run 1080p 60fps stream while playing intensive cpu game and you will get what I mean. i7 8700k can't stream certain games very well but can maintain like 90fps in GTA 5 no problems but the gameplay is very choppy, laggy, while on Ryzen machine we might see 78fps but very smooth gameplay.

    • @BorealSine
      @BorealSine 5 років тому

      In haswell Intel has blocked ability to overclock through BCLK, you can only run it up to 3.9 ghz, but all you do is you lock the ghz instead of it being in Turbo mode which does nothing. Cannot imagine running 1080 ti when my gtx1070 is being used by 60%-80% in most games with this cpu, must be bottle-necking hard.

    • @BorealSine
      @BorealSine 5 років тому

      Have you played Watch Dogs 2, AC Origins ? Try those games and tell me your cpu usage / gpu usage and fps you get. Even if your chip is 200 mhz faster it doesn't change much. BF 1 multiplayer 64players during heavy scenes fps can drop to low 50s from 70-80s, its a very sharp drop and causes some stutters. 1080 ti is 2 times faster than my GTX 1070, if you play games in 4k maybe difference between newer processor is smaller but in 1080p and 1440p its huge. 8700k + GTX 1060 is faster than my i7 4770 + 1070 combo according to the benchmarks. When cpu is being utilized by 90%+ its time to upgrade and new games tend to use 100%, especially BF 5, AC origins, Oddysey, etc.

  • @joaogrrr
    @joaogrrr 5 років тому

    Most important thing you missed. If you OC a 2600k, you'll get above stock 4770 results.

  • @adrianperez-ei6qz
    @adrianperez-ei6qz 5 років тому +4

    My 4790k is still holding strong

  • @peszq
    @peszq 5 років тому

    Charts start at 0

  • @beavas776
    @beavas776 4 роки тому

    My i7 4770k (4.5Ghz OC) + RTX 2080 still awesome for all games, no need more

  • @TheCooperman666
    @TheCooperman666 5 років тому

    bench marks start @ 5min 20sec

  • @teggsy2165
    @teggsy2165 5 років тому

    4770k@ 4.2Mhz, MSI, Z87 AND MSI Mobo,980TI i will not upgrade due to my Asus Nvidia 3D Vision monitor being 120hz and i do not care about a 4k panel yet!

  • @leowalter6138
    @leowalter6138 5 років тому +2

    i had 4770k that wasn't stable at 3.9hz with v core voltage lower than 1.29v & temp of 78C & it was going 4.1hz at a 1.55v with temp 90~98 all of this under heavy load, a terrible processor & the worst generation lottery of all times IMO...
    I gave it back to the shop the second day)))
    & yes another one that i took to test was a nice 4.7hz with 1.27v that was at the highest temp of 70C~66C under heavy load.
    This one i purchased.
    In both chases configuration was the same with different processors.

    • @Sob3r777
      @Sob3r777 4 роки тому +1

      I totally agree I still have the 4770k and it's prone to the famous BSOD autoshutdowns when overclocking with a decent water cooling. Considering to buy the Zen2 3900x next year and NO Asus mainboard.

  • @gertjanvandermeij4265
    @gertjanvandermeij4265 5 років тому

    2nd Gen to 8th Gen , it doesn't matter ! Only clock speed matters !

  • @suiton20
    @suiton20 5 років тому

    When it comes to WoW, my ryzen 7 1700 falls apart compared to my i5 4670k even with an r9 390.

    • @Lightitupp1
      @Lightitupp1 5 років тому

      Yea, WoW is single core dependent

    • @suiton20
      @suiton20 5 років тому

      Light wish blizzard would fix that problem with their games. Dx12 apparently didn’t do shit to threading besides improving.1% on amd GPUs. Maybe the FPS did go up. My ryzen is probably the bottleneck since my gpu usage stays at 75-85%

  • @Ukyo82
    @Ukyo82 5 років тому

    Can hold but what this old games you test..... go AC origins see whats up ;) and there is at least 10 more heavier games, Doom is very light in this days compare new ones...

    • @mesicek7
      @mesicek7 5 років тому +1

      Mate AC Origins like every other ubishit game has optimization issues. Has been covered many times + there's a lot of really bad history when it comes to Ubisoft and their pc games

  • @user-qe7bt9dz1l
    @user-qe7bt9dz1l 5 років тому +1

    Doom is proof that other developers suck donkey balls in optimization compared to ID. Look at Doom's graphics and look at Tomb Raiders graphics and look at Doom's performance and then Tomb Raiders performance. Doom is literally double the framerate on average over Tomb Raider and Doom LOOKS better than Tomb Raider graphically I'd say. Sure Tomb Raider has more foliage but clearly there could be better optimizations regardless. Most games don't come close to Doom's graphics AND performance. Insane.

  • @Vanessinha91Pucca
    @Vanessinha91Pucca 5 років тому +1

    what? 4770k is still a beast! wtf, who would think that it would bottleneck? Intel may launch new CPUs every year, but it actually evolve for real every 3 or 4 years just

  • @ezeruz1
    @ezeruz1 4 роки тому

    Playing Red Dead 2 with high settings, 4770K with Radeon 580 RX.

    • @OllieW501
      @OllieW501 4 роки тому

      What resolution ?

    • @aefas1975
      @aefas1975 4 роки тому

      @@OllieW501 640x480 😂

  • @xinox73
    @xinox73 5 років тому

    I have a I7 4770k with a 1080, works exellent...^^. This video just prove that i did the right thing.

  • @selohcin
    @selohcin 5 років тому +8

    There's a lot of irrelevant explanations in this video. The first four minutes are just rambling. We don't need to hear all this stuff! Also, why are there no Ryzen benchmarks in Deus Ex? Please be more concise and consistent.

  • @marcasswellbmd6922
    @marcasswellbmd6922 5 років тому

    I have a Delid 4770K 4.8Ghz it's an Older Build, But still Kicks ass!, That I'm trying to sell!! But I will tell U that in games it Matches both the latest Intel and AMD offering's in Gaming, But only in Gaming!!! Some will say The 4770K has Better IPC than Ryzen 2700X That I own, (NOT) It just clocks higher so it will sometime appear to have better IPC, But that's just not true!! I have both chips, And I benched Both at stock and The 2700X won Most of the time in games especially when both chips were clocked at 4.2Ghz on all cores, And 2700X won all of the Time in Productivity Benchmarks, So it's time for My 4770K to go!!!!

  • @Roman9441
    @Roman9441 5 років тому

    Thank you , I guess my friend cannot sold me 4770 XD since it not worth upgrade from 4460 , May be save for Ryzen

  • @Mammothtruk
    @Mammothtruk 5 років тому

    yes, OCing an older CPU can get close to a modern CPU at stock settings, only modern CPUs can also be OCed... notice the lack of AMD CPUs on some of those graphics? might be because they are considerably above the old OCed and Intel modern for those games, not sure why else they would be left out and then suddenly be added to others that are showing it close. just no reason to do that at all if you are trying to put together a legit review piece.

  • @jtgamer-nintendo-xbox
    @jtgamer-nintendo-xbox 5 років тому

    Not for me that looks beautiful I am coming up from Xbox one s

  • @LQ-gaming
    @LQ-gaming 5 років тому

    ofc it can, what kind of silly question is that? !?!?