Is this the BEST CPU for Budget Gaming PCs? Intel Core i7 4770
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- Is the i7 4770 a good choice for budget PC gaming? To find out if this is the case, I've tested it at 1080p to truly see if it's a good CPU!
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I have the 4770 and it plays most games you'd think of just pair it with a good gpu like a 1660 super or if your an a budget I recommend a rx 580 8GB
The RX 580 8GB is a sweet pairing for the 4770. In fact, I’d recommend that combo for the majority of budget gaming rigs!
@@ProYamYamPC Will it run Gta 6 at 30+ fps?
@@AstroDaddy12 no idea, GTA 6 isn’t even out yet
how about a 2060/2060s?
@@AstroDaddy12 it runs the isle with a 3060 at 40fps max settings.
My friend also has a 4770, it's still a good enough CPU for older titles and everyday use, obviously it won't run the latest AAA games smoothly but we've been playing on The Finals a couple of time and he tells me he's getting about 60fps.
I've got a 4790K but haven't tried The Finals yet, interesting to know the 4770 can run it.
thats a lie i have the 4770 and i play resident evil 4 remake with over 60 fps and its stable
@@xpkiller350 I'm not sure what you mean by "that a lie"
@@mrmerlin6287 😒👍 I have a Devil's Canyon rig too, its paired with a Red Devil 🔥😈😈🔥
5900x owner, i built pc for my father e3 1246v3 (4770),surprise me,very snappy,good performance in most games,the only thing,if you do multitasking the cpu saturate fast,but very snappy on windows, and good for most of games this cpu came out 10 years ago,amazing
Lol, funny because I just built my dad a 4770k system. Blew what hair he had left back, I got a motherboard off of AE that had M2 support for 89.99
Two of my PCs are based around Haswell Xeons, E3-1265L v3 (with a GTX 1660 Super) and E3-1285L v3 (with RTX 2060 Super). They work well with 1080p monitors. I recently upgraded to a Ryzen 5 5600 as my main rig, with marginal uplift in performance. These are the CPU-Z reports:
R5-5600 - 610.7 / 4845.4
E3-1285L v3 - 364.8 / 1821.0
E3-1265L v3 - 352.6 / 1648.5
cool, thanks for the comparisons, im picking up an old FX8350 rig from a local garage sale, mainly buying it for tinkering, i never had amd systems back in those days =)
that looks a lot more than "marginal"
@@MrSamadolfo how did that go? From what I understand the 8-core AM3 chips were on about the same level as the i5s of their day. Maybe less.
@@SeeJayPlayGames 🙂 Hi Jay, from other benchmarks it looks like it runs close to first gen i7-870, its definitely better than a Core2Quad cause Core2Quad is missing alot of cpu instruction sets. I7-870 is a bit cheaper tho cause theres just more of them plus u have X3470 Xeon which is the server variety, whereas on FX u dont have as many options so you have to pay more, the market punishes you for old school AMD ☺ its kinda like your itching to buy an old school porsche 911 or Ferari Testarosa
@@MrSamadolfo That's not awful. I do have a reference point for that kind of performance.
I built (well, refurb'ed) my roomie a PC that I got for basically free in a trade deal, a Dell Precision T3500. It had a Windows 10 on a 320GB HDD, 4GB of RAM (2x2GB) and a Xeon W3503 (2C/2T 2.4GHz). It had some horrible Fermi Quadro I think for display.
Switched the Quadro out with my old Radeon HD7770 GHz, upgraded it to 12GB RAM (3x4GB), and Xeon X5650 (6C/12T 2.66-3.06GHz). Asked him why he didn't use it... he said it lacked wireless peripherals, so I got him all the wireless peripherals (intel WiFi/BT card, mouse, kb, gamepad) and in exchange I'd get his guitar and amp because I had to go out of pocket for new gear... and he DOESN'T EVEN USE IT. I'm kind of offended, TBH. Was thinking at one point of giving him an SSD upgrade but WHY?
I've been using this for almost 11 years and simply upgraded my graphics card over time when needed. It still runs everything at playable framerates. Some cpu intensive games might be as low as 30 fps, but in general cpu intensive games aren't usually fast paced and it hasn't been an issue. Hearts of iron 4 after 1945 is pretty unplayable, but that's true for most computers.
I did finally order an upgrade though. it's going to feel good to finally get rid of the cpu bottleneck.
Daily driving on a 3rd Gen myself and unable to quite afford the 6th Gen, I would consider the 4th gen to be the sweet spot of budget CPUs.
Isnt a first gen ryzen kit cheaper? If u sell the old kit i mean
4th gen is amazing for budget PC performance! I would probably avoid 6th gen and jump to AM4. You can get a 2600 for the same price as an i7 6700. In the UK at least.
I'm still rocking a 5ghz i7 7700k and rx 6600. Not really all that different. CPU is a little long in the tooth. But at least I'll get my money's worth when I upgrade it. That's how I see it, at least. Ryzen 1 dropped a few months after I got my 7700k I think. We've come a long way since then. If we jumped to even a budget Ryzen 5500 we'd see pretty decent gains.
🙂 i have a Core 2 Quad Zero Gen Rig, a first gen i7, and fourth gen i7, a sixth gen i7, an 11th gen i7, and a 12th gen i7, right now for price and performance Im seeing the Fourth Gen 4core 8thread is sweet spot those chips are 30 bucks, First Gen is a bit cheaper on the chips but First Gen Asus Motherboard can be as high as 75 to 120 bucks. I also recommend checking out X79 and X99 if u like to tinker and experiment. Also if u see some of the older FX Chips on a nice Retail Motherboard pick them up if they are cheap.
give 6th (and 7th) gen a miss, they're only a marginal improvement over 4th... but AM4 is very viable as well as 8th gen intel (which was really the next "jump" because they went to 6-core i5 and 8-core i7)
A Xeon with a 5 as the last number has graphics, for example. E3 1245v3 👍
Ah I see, thanks for letting me know. How much more do they go for over the 1241? As they could be useful to people who would like an iGPU.
@@ProYamYamPC £20-35 depending on where you get them from.
The other decent Xeon is the 1270 v3. It can get pricey though compared to a 4790 👍
EDIT. just checked on Ebay and the 1270v3 is going for around £30
@@WTBMrGrey good to know mate. I appreciate it!
Extremely helpful information!
same for 6 but also with better TIM for the IHS
Good Video!
I have a XEON 1240v3, a H81M-A and a RX 580 and it run really nice, but i might upgrade soon to a ryzen 3600 or a 5500 just for better emulation.
I have it; i made a great pc ten years ago, still rocks.Use it H24 as server, gaming and it's amazing.
Just bought a 4770 for €12.50 for a 1080p build for a friend on a real tight budget. He already has a RX 5600XT 6GB and 16GB ram. Can't wait to test this.
Dude, I literally have the same...4770, 5600 xt and 16gb! 😂
@@nezabytes How do you like it? I was amazed with the performance myself. For a 1080p gaming setup it performs so well in most games!
@@fugzzi6942 It's decent but I'm ready for a 4k AMD rig.
🙂 it should be fine, i have something similar one TIER up from there: 4790K 5700XT and its feels pretty good, here the 5600 and 5700 series cards are priced similar which is kinda weird?
The 1241 v3 is an $18 CPU, i paired it with a 1070 ti for my kiddo and he loves it!! We foind a nzxt Apollo case in orange at GOODWILL of all places, still in the box unscathed. I kinda wish i had jot bought a $15 dell motherboard because I had to do alot extra to get it to post without the "f1" errors.
😊 i transplanted a Lenovo into a corsair case, i was lazy so i just left all the proprietary cables plugged into the motherboard so that I dont have to figure out all those F1 Setup errors
Something to note for viewers that maybe dont know about nvidia driver cpu overhead.
The 4770 or 4790 paired with an AMD gpu will perform much better than with similar range nvidia one.
It aint gonna compete with Ryzen 3 3300X or i3 12100f, the more modern 4 c 8t cpus, but when paired with an RX6600 or 5600XT you arent gonna miss out on much performance, as you would with a 3050 8GB or a 2060 6GB.
And never overpay for the quad cores. If its not real cheap jsut get a R5 3600 and a b450 mobo and ddr4 ram thats diret cheap now.
This^ I couldn’t have said it better myself.
🙂 neat, i didnt know that, the $180 RX 6600 8GB pretty much is all u need for older systems but of course you still have to worry and test if the card will BOOT with a particular old motherboard and/or old monitor, they are not as compatible friendly as a trusty GTX card which is 99% legacy compatible
i had 1231v3 (4770 without iGpu) for the last 10 years and now I am replacing it with 7500f
Got the 4790k on a Asrock 97z with 32gb of memory the day it came out now 10 years later i am still using it with a RTX3060 and it still does well. Make sure you cool these old chips enough to be able to boost non stop (no overclocking needed). I play the new ARK ASA on it without problems.
Certainly with the K SKUs. I know as I have a 13700K. Nice to see your Haswell CPU still serving you well!
Nice, have since 2013 the 4770k, and still working.
🙂 I have the same Devil's Canyon 🔥😈🔥 but on an Asus Z97, if you go into the bios you can turn off ASUS ENHANCEMENTS which prevents the cpu from overclocking overvolting, once you do that you can run Cinebench all day long on a simple Coolermaster 212 and the cpu will hover safely at 70C, its funny even today in 2024 we are still having problems with Intel and Motherboard manufacturers overvolting overclocking our CPU by default and most pc users are not turning down the cpu settings, poor cpus 🐢🐢🐢
I am still using a 4790 with a 3060 12GB GPU on triple 1080P Monitors and still runs the majority of games well, I have also dabbled in Lossless Scaling although I have mixed results game dependant but when it works it works well and will give this old PC some much needed help. I will probably upgrade though in the next 12 months to a Ryzen 7600X system and slot the 3060 GPU into that.
This CPU has been with me for over a decade.
I'm still gaming on an ancient i7 4770 + GTX 1070 and even though it still does pretty well with old games and recent low demanding games, it can't handle games like Squad, Ready Or Not, and Warzone on the lowest settings.
I've been postponing buying a new gaming PC for at least 4 years despite being very limited on the amount of games I could run on this build... But now that I want to get into PVE games this tech is just too old for new games. Plus GTA 6 it's comming out next year and sht...
IMO you should just save more money and buy a better CPU.
🙂 depends on your area, maybe see if anyone wants to sell their old rig for cheap, an old ryzen 7, an old i7 8700, some guys are going the X79 or X99 Route cause the china boards have come down in price and the multithread cpus are cheaper, u have options
Still one of my go to chips for budget gaming pc's
I think it will be for budget flips from now on. This PC sold insanely quickly😂
Nice video. I bought this to make a budget gamer with my old system. I had the top i5 in it but the 4 extra threads of the I7 should help with gaming performance. I have a gtx1070 in it. Might try to get it up to 4mhz but not sure yet.
This is the wrong video. You don't need to waste time with all this data. Anyone watching this stuff knows the chip is fine. The question is what it should cost. There are no bad parts, only had prices. I picked up a 4790(non-k) on an asus Z97, 16Gigs Ram and a GTX 980 for $110 shipped off ebay, of coarse that was a good option. If the entire build is $500... not soo great, this is entirely a question of price not performance
The 4770 / 4790 goes for about 25 to 30 bucks on eBay. The prices are so screwed because I see top rated sellers getting about $40 to $50 out of the 4770k, but then asking $10 less for the 4790k literally makes no sense!!!
Shut up man, there are people like me who need to know the performance of the chip so i can see if it's worth it
@@HardWhereHerojust get the Xeons for cheaper. E3-1225 V3 is $10 and E3-1270 V3 is $21
@@HardWhereHero the 4770 is very comparable but uses less watts and has much better thermals
Yep.. got the xeon e3 1246 v3 for just $10 lmao @@someguywithmtndew5691
I have one for years and it is totally excellent for many many games. For pure daily use you won't need anything else.
This was my first cpu for gaming, now I got a i5 11400.
Good, a better sound volume from your other vids 👍
Keep up the good work mate
Thanks mate! I've been playing around with the sound and noise reduction! Btw is that a Seiko diver's watch in your pfp?
@@ProYamYamPC yess, the iconic SkX009, u should get one mate 🤞
and remember to BREATHE!!! You tend to "croak" when you run out of air, and it's a little annoying. To me, anyway. Then again, who the hell am I? Anyway, I don't mind if you take a breath mid-sentence, but when you croak... ugh.
old 3rd/4th/5th gen Intel CPU's are still good if you want to build a console style PC running some version of Steam OS they are still perfect, pair it with 16gb ram & an old RX 580 8GB and 1TB SSD and you have a decent little gaming box.
Bazzite is the newest Linux console-like experience that I've heard of. Also I understand that Batocera 40 just released. You hardly need 16GB of RAM; 8GB or even 4GB should be sufficient for pure emulation. But for running Windows titles, of course you're going to want 16. Besides, RAM is pretty cheap now, especially DDR3, although it may be going up? IDK.
If you're not trying to emulate heavily 3D accelerated consoles (like PS2/GameCube/Dreamcast and later) but rather stick with the classics, then you can probably get away WITHOUT a video card. iGPU might be good enough for N64 and earlier?
Is there any way to make all cores boost to 3.9 GHz, but not set to a fixed frequency? I have 4771 on an MSI Z87 G43 board.
My son has used a 4790K and a 8gb 9970 strix for years !
the xeon counterpart is much cheaper, but this will do
I know, that’s what I said in the conclusion of this video
I currently have a 4770k and a geforce nvidia 770 with 10gb of ram. what would you recommend I should upgrade first?
Ram above anything you should run at least 16gb. 16gb kits are pretty cheap. Then GPU Rx 570 & 580 are pretty good value right now. At least in my area
@@mtzkustom7818 oke thank you
@@Fufu0478 You're welcome
@@mtzkustom7818 I got one more question. Would upgrading ram affect the frame rate I would get?
@@Fufu0478 yes, getting away from the asymmetrical dual channel setup you got there should improve things a little. You should try to have 2 8GB sticks at 1600MT/s (PC3-12800 unbuffered). I say that without knowing what exactly you have right now (other than 10GB - and there's a couple of different ways to get there).
But the GPU is going to make the biggest difference. RX 590 is about the same as a GTX 1060, which is a nice (~60%) improvement over a GTX 770. I'd actually go higher like an RX 5700XT or a GTX 1080, or maybe a 1660 Super or RTX 2060, if you want to feel a bigger difference. And honestly, anything higher than that will be bottlenecked by the CPU, so no point going faster than those.
would like to see how much gain from 3770.
49%
its pretty close
The vast majority of gamers will not notice much improvement once you get past 60 FPS. This is especially true in one player games. As some point, additional FPS is just a flex and nothing more. Presenter is spot on when it comes to budget GPUs: RX 580 8gb or the GTX 1660 super are both excellent choices, but the 1660 is better.
🙂 theres a whole bunch of gpus in that Tier that are pretty decent, prices fluctuate tho so it really depends on a day to day basis
tell me you've never used a high refresh monitor for e-sports titles without telling me. A framerate of 60fps comes to an update every 16.66ms, whereas 144Hz is 6.944 ms. A nearly 10ms difference, a hundredth of a second. That doesn't sound like much but when split seconds count for competitive gaming, then yeah, there's a difference. Not that my old ass is a competitive gamer, but I understand the need. Warning, though - I've heard that you can't go back. Once you upgrade, you're spoiled for 60Hz anymore. I have a 75Hz panel, so I'm not there really... but that's 13.33ms. Not a huge difference.
That being said, for single-player and/or slower-paced games, you are absolutely correct. In fact, if you're using a gamepad, you can probably be happy at 30fps, as long as the frame pacing is rock solid and not jumping around. Mouselook at 30fps feels horrible, 60 is better for that, and the higher the better, really.
i have a i7 4770 in my PC Paired with a Intel Arc A750. But my problem is that in any game it always LAGS. I Have Good internet, I have everything up to date, all drivers are updated. i have changed every setting that i could but nothing helps. I have probaly watched every optimezing and every how to video on youtube. i have a 650 WATT PSU. 16GB Ram. PLS HELP. what should i try changing or try doing first? Thank You
I7 4770 with gtx 1660TI can run well rpcs3 and ryuinjx?
My E5-2650v4 paired with a RX 480 works wonders on RPCS3 hammering on only 15% usage on the CPU
Given that the broadwell architecture that the V4 Xeons are based on is just a MARGINALLY improved Haswell architecture (4th Gen)
I reckon it'll work just fine so long as you manage your expectations, you've only got 4 cores so when emulating your multi-tasking needs to be kept to a minimum (if at all) even my 12 Core sees high usage when im talking with the guys on discord whilst having a few tabs and a emulator open
Which gpu will be best for i7 4770? I have 4770S though.
Any GPU at or below the performance of a GTX 1080. (btw you can lock your 4770S to it's max turbo frequency (3.8/3.9), effectively making it the same as the 4770.)
@@Silver-h4m it works great with the 4060
I've got a Machinist h81m pro motherboard with a i7 4770 and 8gb of ddr3 ram with 1300mhz and a EVGA GeForce GTX 780, would that be a solid gaming rig?
not bad, but NVIDIA discontinued driver support for the GTX 700 series a while ago so you'll have to get an older driver and that's it, that's all you get. Still should run games but there may be weird glitches in the newest titles (newer than driver). 16GB of 1600MT/s RAM is ideal for that processor but 1333 should *work*. Is that 2x4GB modules so it's at least dual channel? Or is it 1x8GB? If so I'd get another module because dual channel will help your framerate a bit; definitely want to have more than 8GB for best results, and so you don't have to shut things down to play a game.
I think a first gen ryzen will be the best choice for budget gamers,then you can always upgrade
Good point, it does cost more, but you get the benefits of the AM4 platform
🙂 they seem to be running 30 bucks all day long, there should be some Xeons too, depends on the motherboard you want to use, also kinda cheap right now is chinese motherboards that are X79 and X99. If you like to tinker check em out.
This is my CPU now and my GPU is RX 5700 8gb what should I upgrade
Your CPU. A GPU more powerful than your RX 5700 will get bottlenecked anyhow (at 1080p).
Omg I just upgraded my gfs family’s unusably awful win 7 Pentium g3250 4gb ram hard drive pc to an i7 4770 1660ti 16gb ram and SSD so this vid is incredibly timely 😂 I noticed most that in general usage this cpu can save those old systems like file explorer internet browsing life changingly faster
🙂 G3250 is Haswell, so were u able to update the bios and plugin the 4770 ???
@@MrSamadolfo no bios update needed just worked!
@@skarrerx8493 🍭🍪🍰 Sweet!
1080p is more CPU intensive, you have shown that a cheap Ryzen 3600 with ddr4 ram will be far better option for not much more and better support for nvme drives
That’s true, but it’s also much more expensive
Not to be picky, but there is a great degree between great value and e-waste, and i would rather call it a decent one instead.
What about i7-4771 ? Is it better ?
Great vid
I have it wih a 1660 super in ga b85md3h and goes well
Can you OC it using just h81?
Nah only on z97
windows 11 will kill it unfortunately... I still got a 4790k on a msi z97 gaming 5 board with 16gb of ram gathering dust, it will prolly end up as a server..
I don’t think so. People will probably use the workarounds.
So hi is good for gaming?
My pc shows random lines when i play fortnite is it bc of my cpu or what
Could be down to a lot of factors. But it's most likely down to either your display, display cable, or GPU. Have you tried using a different display cable?
I've had my pc for about 3 years now I have a i7 4770 and before even watching this video i'm gonna say that this processor is awful, for its time yes it was the best but now it doesn't compete with other processors in 2024, it's now been a struggle for me now since trying to run new games on a high framerate is just an awful experience, I can't even play Fortnite now since the games grapics keeps improving and my processor gets older, even rust I can't play that or call of duty, I don't like playing games on low grapics (except for fortnite) and this processor forces me to in some cases, if your reading this and you want a good budget processor check out the ryzen 5 5600 I have plans to buy that processor in a couple of months
You might want to go up to the 7600x as this seems to be the new sweetspot bang for buck for a gaming rig.
guys i need a fast reply, is an i7 4770S good?
sure, its the same price as the 4770 regular, look at youtube benchmarks for comparisons cause it looks to run just about the same
@@MrSamadolfo i did buy an 4770K nur thanks for the answer
@@Tatar- ok cool 😎👍
This is what i have, my hhd is failing so i went to micro center to see what i can do about getting my hhd replaced and windows 11 i was told that i could not run windows 11 so this cpu is 100% worthless today because you cant play on steam without windows11 now... Had i known i couldnt run 11 with this cpu i would have figured out something sooner now i am screwed until i save up the money to buy a new computer. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT best cpu for budget gaming the cpu is WORTHLESS!
This CPU is not worthless, as demonstrated today, it can still play games. You can also bypass the TPM 2.0 requirements of Windows 11 with this CPU.Stop using all caps, it doesn’t emphasise your point.
And Steam works fine on Windows 10? Valve have only discontinued 7, 8, and 8.1.
DO BIG LETTERS UPSET YOU? GETOVER IT DUDE. AGAIN I WAS AT MICRO CENTER TODAY THATS WHAT THEY TOLD ME SO I WAS GOING BY WHAT I WAS TOLD BY THE COMPUTER STORE SO YEAH. AND I THINK MY POINT WAS MADE WITH THE BIG LETTERS :p@@ProYamYamPC
stop drinking bro
Should i smoke meth like your mother?@@GAMenBoy
I use same cpu pair with 5500xt😮
The bottleneck is crazy
No brother both cpu and gpu perform great 0% bottleneck you also check pc built site bottleneck calculator
Problem with this older cpus that its high risk to die,i have it two and dies in three months
CPUs rarely die. Most CPUs will easily outlive the motherboard.
K versions dies, mine 2 dies so its not good deal to buy some old and expensive junk @@ProYamYamPC
indeed, my motherboard die first, change some moffets and he rebirth :D, now I have issues with my gtx 770 but is too old to spend money fixing it@@ProYamYamPC
@@ProYamYamPC this comment didn't age well in light of the 13th and 14th generation LOL but that's quite the exception to your mostly factual statement.
This is only good cpu if xou dont pay it more then 30$ just like mobo for it
Nice👍👍👍👍👍👍🫵🫵🫵
Na the 4790k is far better
They are almost the same, but this one can get away with stock cooler which why this one is better budget option.
@proyamyampc Can i pls know the beat gpu for an i7 4790 processor ?
Also is rtx 2070 too much for this cpu as everyone keeps saying its a bottleneck
I've paired an RTX 2060 with a 4770 and that was pretty fine at 1080p. Yes it will hold the 2060 back, but performance was more than acceptable
@@ProYamYamPC thank you brother
I mean im planning on using the rtx 2060 with the i7 4970 then moving to i7 10 th gen in a year so i think the rtx 2060 is the best option for me as it can bring out the best in both processors.
Can u recomend a good monitor resolution to use for the i7 4970 and rtx 2060
@@ProYamYamPC and this bottlneck wont harm the i7 4th gen right?
You aren't really this bad at computers this is just all the hardware you have access to right?
im confused - whats wrong with testing a i7-4770 in 2023?
What are you trying to say?
Comparing a 12400 and a 4770 with a mid range GPU is actually decent content, so get off whatever high horse you are sitting on because it just makes you look stupid.
Yeah what you tryna say?
"Bad at computers" 🙄😆
I have a few I7-4790's and got an I7-4770K recently to replace my I5-4670K. Haswell LGA 1150 stuff works for me at the moment. I'm slowly collecting newer parts like and I5-8400 and MB to match as the budget determines.
Are you a collector? Otherwise that seems like a waste of money
@@NamTran-xc2ip - I source affordable older parts and am building budget gaming PC's for my grandchildren. I also resell parts too.