"... I was lucky when I was in that susceptible mode that I didn't hear a Rush or Grateful Dead record. Who knows how my life would've gone if I had." *Bob Rock* has entered the chat.
The first Ramones album explained so much to me, including what I liked about music and what my intentions in music would be. It defines punk rock along with the first NY Dolls. Perfect.
They - sorta - wanted to be a Pop Rock band. Their song structures are heavily influenced by the pop format. They just couldn't play music that way, as they weren't musicians, and they all tried playing different instruments until they found what they were "good" around. Their music, believe it or not, is based on the Early Beatles. Dee Dee was an army brat and grew up in Hamburg. He saw the Beatles very early on - they were known as the Silver Beatles at the time, and they went by stage names. McCartney's stage name was "Ramone." Dee Dee borrowed the name and basic musical formulas from them. All this is in Lobotomy: Surviving the Ramones by Dee Dee. After I read the book, I went down to the local record store, which is owned by this heavy duty Beatles fan. I asked him if any of the story was true, as Dee Dee is not a reliable source. The dude said, "it's all true." Then he took out a bootleg record "the Silver Beatles: Live in Hamburg." He spun it. Damn thing sounded exactly like the Ramones'
He got into the Ramone the same way I did. My older brother was coming home from a Van Hagar concert, and his friend put Ramones Mania on the tape deck. When he got home. My mother asked if he did drugs. My sister asked if the show was fun. Then , after bedtime, he came into my room, with his friend's tape and says, "you gotta listen to THIS."
As a teenager I was into Rush and Ramones. Still am. I don't think he's disrespecting Rush or GD, just that he would have been a much different producer if he had went down those paths. I had a similar experience with the band "Fear Of God"'s album "Within The Veil". Heard one song. Entranced. Had to order it from that catalog in a record shop and waited for two weeks to get it.
@@j_freed Nope, a random Shellac chord and video stutter aren't art, they just make it a really jarring watch. If it were a video of Albini talking about Jordan, Minnesota or Fish Fry or the cover of the Headache single then sure, jarring would work, but it doesn't here.
I remember laughing at Clifton Chenier, it sounded ridiculous. But then later I got into The Meters, and my friend thought that sounded comical, the fucking Meters who essentially gave birth to Funk and James Brown and all else to follow. To me Meters led to James Brown whose drummers deeply influenced John Bonham and then we know how broad Zeppelin's influence was on any band that played with a groove. I will have to go get all the Clifton Chenier stuff now that I like N'awlins stuff so much.
New York Dolls, The Stooges are massive early influences. Black Flag much later but VERY big impact for many. Actually have to give the Banshees and even Nina Hagen some early props too. Patty Smith basically helped create punk rock as a way to express her poetry... she was playing CBGB years before the Ramones were there.
Black Flag for me. But I was very young when Ramones and Sex Pistols were new, too young to get into any music never mind theirs. So there were more bands to get into by the time I was that age.
good on ya Steve that you applied an intelligence to a business rife with exploitation and stupidity---it set you far far apart from what was around you ----for all the pr--its a losers game- and you brought consciousness to it...
I honestly don't think he would have been intrigued by the Dead or Rush. He's too angry and quirky enough to not have liked them. The Ramones became my favorite band in 78 when I was 13 - used to sing I wanna be sedated on my paper route. Before that it was T-Rex. I think I wound up seeing the Ramones 11 or 12 times - always a great show.
I might feel that way if I had that experience also but to me, the Ramones are overrated. But I feel the Sex Pistols were really amazing and I'm sure this makes no sense.
@@1conor That's true. Don't get me wrong I love me some Ramones. Probably if I had heard them along with Black Flag, Husker Du when I was a teenager in the 80s I'd probably have loved them from the start.
Chris Nelvin albini seems unique to his generation in that he can articulate his experience... ok... he is ever self referential- but he can talk intelligently about what he has experienced...... a fact that seems to have eluded a good many of the bands he has recorded. you make a great point-he came along at the right point... the "do it yourself' rock era. and the punk period did attack the overly technical guitar driven bands of the 70's absurdities.
ColdChicago- I really think that's what he meant more than anything....the DIY thing. Rush were professional musicians. I'm sure Albini knew he couldn't compete with that. Doing your own thing on your own terms was much more beneficial for him.
Greg Pasquier my cathartic moment came listening to george bush perjure himself. how many of us have a meticulous recall of just when we got turned on to anything..... narcissistic total recall anyone?
This is awesome,Ramones is my all time favorite band and i didn't know that he was obssessive with Ramones like i am,great stuff!!!!
Just sad... I have Albini for this....
Agree
"... I was lucky when I was in that susceptible mode that I didn't hear a Rush or Grateful Dead record. Who knows how my life would've gone if I had."
*Bob Rock* has entered the chat.
Big Black is a great band.
The first Ramones album explained so much to me, including what I liked about music and what my intentions in music would be. It defines punk rock along with the first NY Dolls. Perfect.
I love the jumpscares
Lol
You had me laughing. I thought October was over.
I hate them
such poetic justicr that so many people went through the exact same process with surfer rosa...
What a great bloke. What a great clip. Thanks. Imagine Shellac if he’d heard Rush on that cassette tho 😂
Nothing like young ears being enveloped by the Ramones. Same experience for me as well.
I'm in my mid 30's and feel this way about 100 gecs - seemed like a joke meme but it is catchy bubblegum pop with wild noise influences.
Very good way to put it.
They - sorta - wanted to be a Pop Rock band. Their song structures are heavily influenced by the pop format. They just couldn't play music that way, as they weren't musicians, and they all tried playing different instruments until they found what they were "good" around.
Their music, believe it or not, is based on the Early Beatles. Dee Dee was an army brat and grew up in Hamburg. He saw the Beatles very early on - they were known as the Silver Beatles at the time, and they went by stage names. McCartney's stage name was "Ramone." Dee Dee borrowed the name and basic musical formulas from them.
All this is in Lobotomy: Surviving the Ramones by Dee Dee.
After I read the book, I went down to the local record store, which is owned by this heavy duty Beatles fan. I asked him if any of the story was true, as Dee Dee is not a reliable source. The dude said, "it's all true." Then he took out a bootleg record "the Silver Beatles: Live in Hamburg." He spun it. Damn thing sounded exactly like the Ramones'
This is an awesome testimony.
He got into the Ramone the same way I did. My older brother was coming home from a Van Hagar concert, and his friend put Ramones Mania on the tape deck. When he got home. My mother asked if he did drugs. My sister asked if the show was fun. Then , after bedtime, he came into my room, with his friend's tape and says, "you gotta listen to THIS."
Well, DID your brother do drugs?!
rip steve , great interview
such a
beatiful story
The Ramones are my favorite band too
One of the best bands ever, gabba gabba hey!
As a teenager I was into Rush and Ramones. Still am. I don't think he's disrespecting Rush or GD, just that he would have been a much different producer if he had went down those paths. I had a similar experience with the band "Fear Of God"'s album "Within The Veil". Heard one song. Entranced. Had to order it from that catalog in a record shop and waited for two weeks to get it.
be fun, then worry about being important.
Steve was a music nerd from birth!
Wtf is with the frantic cuts featuring guitar break?
You'd have to ask the editor
where is this from?
The edits and music on this video are insufferable
It sounds like musical Tourette's. lol horrible.
Visit more art galleries. Your ideas will get less stuck.
@@j_freed Nope, a random Shellac chord and video stutter aren't art, they just make it a really jarring watch. If it were a video of Albini talking about Jordan, Minnesota or Fish Fry or the cover of the Headache single then sure, jarring would work, but it doesn't here.
@@j_freed you must be a lot of fun at parties, mr. pretentious douche.
@@j_freed 😑
No gear sold from Albini’s studio can have the “non-smoking studio” description
Great story!
This is how I was with kids bop
“At some point it stopped being just a novelty & became the best music in the world….”
RIP
RIP Steve, and Joey, Johnny, Dee Dee, Tommy.
steve, thank your lucky stars you avoided rush and tgd
bruh rush is sick gtfo
@@dylonbangss2804 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
Dude listen to yes, already, and listen to a full rush album in one of their songs 🤣🤣
Steve produced WHiTEHOUSE's 7' Thank your Lucky Stars. Not sure if you knew you made a joke. Not sure if anyone else gets it either.
Rush fucking rules
@@Runes_and_Men 😂😂😂🤣🤣
I remember laughing at Clifton Chenier, it sounded ridiculous. But then later I got into The Meters, and my friend thought that sounded comical, the fucking Meters who essentially gave birth to Funk and James Brown and all else to follow.
To me Meters led to James Brown whose drummers deeply influenced John Bonham and then we know how broad Zeppelin's influence was on any band that played with a groove.
I will have to go get all the Clifton Chenier stuff now that I like N'awlins stuff so much.
Cool interview
I live in Missoula Montana
Izzy's Production Studio do you know about the “Fish Fry” murder in Frenchtown??
Cool, i live in Jordan Minnesota
tremeeendo
Ouch. Rush and the Good Ole Grateful Dead tossed unceremoniously into the same bin. Horrific, indeed.
Swap the Pixies and me in 8th grade in 1989
The editing here tho
What editing?
@@1conor The ridiculous audio snippets
lol people are so sensitive to like everything steve says.. jesus. reputation preceeds i guess.
+Jesse Cheshire They are?
Or it precedes..
Whichever 'comes first.'
Crazy how every punk always has that same story, either Ramones or Sex Pistols.
New York Dolls, The Stooges are massive early influences.
Black Flag much later but VERY big impact for many.
Actually have to give the Banshees and even Nina Hagen some early props too. Patty Smith basically helped create punk rock as a way to express her poetry... she was playing CBGB years before the Ramones were there.
Ramones is the best band ever
Nick Cave cited The Saints as his introduction to punk
Black Flag for me. But I was very young when Ramones and Sex Pistols were new, too young to get into any music never mind theirs. So there were more bands to get into by the time I was that age.
the Ramones are God, Steve Albini is Jezus
No Steve, you were on needles and pins
We'd have had Immaculate Dead.
But who'd want that.
that’s how i feel about annoying orange
dad....
He games his own tastes just like big labels do to the public with all their mediocre pop drivel.
dugfriendly do you mean in reference to to his enjoyment of the Ramones? I'm just a little confused.
good on ya Steve that you applied an intelligence to a business rife with exploitation and stupidity---it set you far far apart from what was around you ----for all the pr--its a losers game- and you brought consciousness to it...
The Tourette's edition.. Jesus.
Sort of
love you steve but you're wrong about the grateful dead
grateful dead blows
I honestly don't think he would have been intrigued by the Dead or Rush. He's too angry and quirky enough to not have liked them. The Ramones became my favorite band in 78 when I was 13 - used to sing I wanna be sedated on my paper route. Before that it was T-Rex. I think I wound up seeing the Ramones 11 or 12 times - always a great show.
you miss the point
@@RobJD yip,woulda went whoosh. BB&GD,in an imaginary top 5,that already contains 7.
They suck. They’re only good when the meat puppets cover them
I might feel that way if I had that experience also but to me, the Ramones are overrated. But I feel the Sex Pistols were really amazing and I'm sure this makes no sense.
Hard to compare them, Sex pistols released one album, The Ramones invented punk and lasted 20 years
@@1conor That's true. Don't get me wrong I love me some Ramones. Probably if I had heard them along with Black Flag, Husker Du when I was a teenager in the 80s I'd probably have loved them from the start.
What’s up with the stupid edits and sound effects?
Who knows
It was the early 90s
Editing is seriously annoying.
Don't blame me it's on the DVD
@@1conor What's the name of the DVD?
It's actually funny how many random band stabs come in.
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I don't think here really gets the Ramones.
Albini is a great producer but hearing him take pot shots at bands he didnt care for is so bush league. I've always heard he was kind of a jerk
the man "escaped" the dead and rush, and found the ramones? what began as farce now ends in trajedy.
Chris Nelvin albini seems unique to his generation in that he can articulate his experience... ok... he is ever self referential- but he can talk intelligently about what he has experienced...... a fact that seems to have eluded a good many of the bands he has recorded. you make a great point-he came along at the right point... the "do it yourself' rock era. and the punk period did attack the overly technical guitar driven bands of the 70's absurdities.
ColdChicago-
I really think that's what he meant more than anything....the DIY thing. Rush were professional musicians. I'm sure Albini knew he couldn't compete with that. Doing your own thing on your own terms was much more beneficial for him.
Greg Pasquier my cathartic moment came listening to george bush perjure himself. how many of us have a meticulous recall of just when we got turned on to anything..... narcissistic total recall anyone?
TBH I'm not overly keen on either Rush or the Dead myself. Always felt that European prog from that era was better.
🤔
Ouch. Rush and The Good Ole Grateful Dead tossed into the same bin. Horrific, indeed.