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"Tallest Station In The World" - Smith - Ninth Sts | NYC's Mystical Stations
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- Опубліковано 12 кві 2022
- The Smith - Ninth Sts Station is the tallest rapid transit station in the world. Find out why that is so, in this video!
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Some more trivia concerning Smith-9th Street.:
1. Not only is it the highest station, it's the only one where the platform crosses a body of water.
2. The station, despite it's great height, didn't even get escalators until the mid 1970's!
3. Though popularly called the Culver Viaduct, it's actually a misnomer. Its proper name is the IND Smith Street viaduct, and the segment of the line from Bergen Street to Church Avenue is the IND Smith Street line. The actual Culver line starts south of Church Avenue, and that segment to Coney Island is the oldest segment of the F line, being completed by the BRT (later BMT) in 1919 to Avenue X, and to Coney Island in 1920.
I didn't know that it didn't get escalators until the '70s. That's wild. I can't imagine walking up all of those steps.
@@MysticTransit Growing up there in the 60s, there was not much ADA awareness in general nor was there a sense of "extras". We just dealt with the stairs. It was part of the deal for entering or exiting the station. Back then money was tight, in general, as well. Most times we took the B75 to relatives in Park Slope. Other times the train. And if things were tight, we walked it. If my father wasn't working, it was a car ride. And back then it was all R1-R9 cars.
Thought Singapore's Gul Circle station is taller (33m/108')
Well stated ! Why are there 5 track spaces south of the station on the Truss Spans, but only 4 to the north ?? Aarre Peltomaa
@@musicforaarre There was a pocket track between the express tracks at this elevated station.
This is my station, back in 2005 when i was a kid this place had graffiti all over it, it was rusty and had black tarps covering the outside. Now it's pretty clean, they paint over the graffiti daily.
Yeah, they've done well with fixing up certain parts of the system (bar Chambers St).
@@MysticTransitI heard the MTA is finally going to do something about Chambers Street. Apparently the MTA is going to spend at least 100 Million Dollars to renovate both 190th Street and Chambers Street. It might be slightly more ambitious then the Renovation projects they have been doing.
I have, like many other people, been to this station. I loved it! It was very scenic. It was pretty cool how we had to use stairs and two sets of escalators to get down. I wonder how many stations are taller than this. Definitely above ground level, but maybe not above sea level
@Kevin Crow Moreno I know that, but I thought there were other stations in other countries above sea level
@@transitimprover He was talking about "in the world"
Where the hell is the escalator bro I be walking from underground all the way up smh
@@flickarod8973 u get tired real quick going up them stairs right
Hey, greetings from Sweden. The Stockholm tunnelbana system uses a lot of incline elevators which I think would work well here, simply remove an escalator in each shaft and replace it with an incline lift.
Thanks for listening to what our favorite stations are and making a video it!
I was here on 9/11/01. Crystal clear view of the city 😢. Everybody was out with their camcorders.
Great station, beautiful view, one of my favorites in this city.
When I first seen this station I kinda shocked it was that high, because at the time I thought the 125th street station on the 1 was the highest to me.
Same.
Gun Hill Rd on the IRT White Plains Rd Line freaks me out coz that station is really high as well.
Also I think the 121st station on the j train is high also
I really love this station! It's very interesting that it's the highest nyc station and I once railfanned the station at night, one great place for railfanning I must say
I Recommend:
- Fulton Center (Complex)
- Astor Place
- Queensboro Plaza
Fulton Center has been on my list since the beginning of this series. The issue with that is the number of lines that pass through the station, it isn't just the (A/C/J/Z/2/3/4/5), but also the (1/E/R/W) & PATH.
There's like 15 different stations in one there. That would be a huge project, same goes for some other transit hubs, like Grand Central, Times Square, and Atlantic Avenue.
A scene from Goodfellas was shot underneath that station on Smith Street & West 9th Street. I lived there at the time. It was a very big deal!
Not West 9th-just 9th. There is a West 9th Street in Brooklyn, but it doesn’t intersect with Smith Street. :-)
Really loving all those SITRAC propulsion R160s in the background.
That propulsion is heavenly.
I fully agree.
Having a map on screen when you talk about these scenarios would be incredible, please.
A beautiful view of the Gowanus canal. A body of water where fish fear to tread. Its also cold in winter.
Great video! A couple of weeks ago there was a F train stalled on the Culver line and my F train ran express from Jay St to Kings Highway! We passed through this stop and 4th Ave at a pretty decent speed. I'm impressed with all the improvements they've done to this line it's literally one of the fastest. Definitely faster than the B train.
Fun fact: I've also been to the highest Amtrak station in the US, Fraser-Winter Park. It's on the California Zephyr and 8,561 feet above sea level.
Grew up using this station to get to school every day. What an incredible place.
I really love the Lower Manhattan view when the back of the southbound platform and the front northbound platform because I been to that station before and I was impressed by the skyline especially a sunny day. I give it a 10/10
Used this station and segment so much in my high school years. The view from such a seemingly random spot in Brooklyn are immaculate.
Wow what a coincidence that you did this video when you did. I live in Flushing Queens even though I've been up here at my mothers in New Hampshire for the last 2 years because of covid. Anyway I was back in New York a month ago just to clean my apartment and take a refresher class for my job through refresher class was postponed today so I figured what can I do considering I have a girlfriend in North Carolina who never saw or has been to New York City I decide to take a couple of pictures of Manhattan for her. Went to Smith and 9th Street and snap several pictures both of Manhattan Brooklyn and even the curve to Carroll Street.
Sadly this is the only station left on the entire system where one can get a good picture of Manhattan. The upper level of Queensboro Plaza on the 7 and N lines used to be great too but that's all been hemmed in by new high-rise Construction in Long Island City which is starting to look more like a Manhattan neighborhood than a Queen's one.
Finally! my fav station, great video
Thanks!
@@MysticTransit No problem
ahh, the station u can see from the ISS, one of my favorites
I've heard that you can even see it from Mars.
Outstanding video, top quality and informative. I remember as a former Brooklyn resident riding the GG train to the station from the Carroll station. It's a trip down memory lane. Thank you for posting & all the best.
I love this station because you can see the World Trade Center when heading uptown and it’s very nice. Fantastic video and I agree with the f going express and the g going local
Been to this station many times. The view of the city is amazing and it’s surprisingly a great stop to visit.
I remember walking up this station once...I lost 100 pounds!
😂
Lmao
I did knew the history of Smith-9 Sts but forgot them and now you made me remember about the service changes in the past
Also this is a nice video to learn about this station and how tall it is
I HAVE DISTANT(NO PUN) MEMORIES OF SMITH & 9TH OPERATING ON OVERTIME AS A MOTORMAN 1968 &
FORWARD. WORKED ON THE GG LINE, AND
I THINK, THE F LINE. IT WAS ALWAYS A UNIQUE EXPERIENCE TO STOP THERE.
SIGNED: OLD C/R, M/M, TSS.
My favorite station is Rockaway blvd on the (A) 2nd favorite parsons blvd on the (E) (F)
I really regret not visiting this station last time I was in New York, even more so after watching this!
Great video, found it very interesting! 👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi, great content, man. I would like to make a suggestion: when you do these videos featuring a station, it would be nice to start from a zoom into it on Google Maps or maybe even the Subway map for those of us who don't live in NYC.
I'll consider it in the future.
Love me some smith 9th street station bc of the design shiii fire af
You picked a nice day to take the video. Lived near the Avenue P station for two years. Always been in favor of express F service on the four track underground section of the line. Additionally, there should be some express service on the three track above ground section of the Culver Line. It should be similar to 7-Flushing express and local service on that line, as it has three tracks. At least have express trains during rush hours on the three track Culver Line with the express ending at Kings Highway.
I never even knew of this station but whenever I have time to do so when I return to NYC, it's on my To Do list fa sho!!
Crazy how it has No Elevators.
fr. You would expect a station of this height to have one.
Lol
It is tall but no elevator in it
@@MysticTransitThink that installing an elevator like I saw the mezzanines would bypass the ticket barriers and people would take advantage of it. Could you please do a part 2 of this named "More secrets about smith 9th sts" mentioning all these
I thank you for the history about the Smith-Ninth Street Station 👍
Well done. Thank you for posting.
This station has the BEST view
Agreed.
I LOVE watching this from South Carolina, BROOKLYN is my home. Carroll street station was my home station. Right up the block
I really love the series you've got going here! What would really be neat is if you could use a time machine to go back in time to do a piece on BOTH the inner and outer loop of the original South Ferry station in their heyday.
🤔 I'll see what I can do about the Old South Ferry Station (without trespassing). Not sure what I can do about the Inner Loop platforms tho.
Used to live on the G line and this station was one of the nicest parts of going down to brighton beach. We'd have to transfer to the F here since it was the G's final stop but we'd always get treated to the nice views of the city and statue of liberty while we waited.
Don't know if you can see it from Jersey but I *have* seen an excellent sunset silhouette of Lady Liberty taken from the platform end \m/
Wow so cool. How long does it take to get up to the train platform by stairs? Like how many stairways would you climb up?
It would take like 2 1/2 mins.
@@MysticTransit not too bad. They must have elevators too to get to the platforms
@@transittown7891 unfortunately they didn't have elevators, but yes there are escalators
@@m34tgaming16 gotcha
A correction. The viaduct is called 'The Crosstown Viaduct' as The Culver Line Elevated passed the Ditmas Ave Station was not yet connected to this section when it was first built. Keep up the good work though.
Cool 😎 Video 🎥 and I just subscribed to your UA-cam channel.
Thanks!
I literally just asked myself this question when I was at the West 8th station in Brooklyn and now I got my answer. Thank You for this bro!!!!!!!!!!
Nice video!
Thanks!
The quality of your videos is getting ever better 👍
Yes they should have all F trains run express cuz that’s what the G is kinda for as a gap filler if it’s possible for times a day then it’s possible all day except late nights and probably extend the G line
Haven't been to that station in years, I do remember there being a track that went down as you crested the viaduct heading towards Coney Island.
I DO LOVE THIS STATION
IN ADDITION TO THE VIEWS OF THE CITY, I LIKE THE IEW OF THE KINGS-QUEENS EXPRESSWAY (BQE) AS WELL AS WHEN YOU DRIVE ALONG THE BQE & SEE THE STATION FROM THE BQE
i love this station so much
Other than Smith and 9th Street the stations with the best views are Broadway Junction on the upper level (L train) platforms or Junction Blvd on the 7 Flushing line
I was at this station just once, and it was quite an experience.
Great info! Does the station get landmark status?
No, surprisingly.
According to Mayor Adams, that was on the list prior to him leaving as borough president
@@christopherglover3829 I guess we'll see...
I'm impressed with your research. I learned a lot here today
I'm glad you was able to learn from this video. I always love to teach the history of the system to my audience.
A lot of the stations in NYC are cool, but absolutely nothing could make me like the MTA
1:27 _"Don't point that camera at ME!"_
I’ve always seen this station from the BQE as a child only recently ever went there in person
It is so nice here, seeing this from the Gowanus or the Prospect Expressway or whatever it is lol is so nice
Yea the Gowanus
The view of lower Manhattan is just breathtaking and beautiful, I think you do Grand Central next
Fun fact about this station: it’s got some nice views of Manhattan if you go towards the front end of the station heading towards manhattan
Looks like there's room for a center platform here!
And would have been nice to see an exterior view of the station from a distance to see how high up it is.
The station is actually visible on the Brooklyn Queens Expressway Interstate 278 because most signs on that Highway exclude the Gowanus portion. This means the Brooklyn Queens Expressway runs from the Verrazano Bridge all the way to the Triboro Bridge used by M60sbs BxM5-11 buses. The correct name for the route is IND Crosstown Line because the BMT built the Culver Line, the section south of Church Ave, connection to B35 bus to 4th Avenue 36th Street. The connecting ramp was a 1950s build. Your idea is going to work. Basically, the F train ends up being Queens Brooklyn Express local Manhattan. Remember, the only trains to run two Boro express are 4,5 A,B,D & N trains trains
I gotta say that I miss the R46's rounding the curve from Carrol St but CBTC on QBL.
The view of Manhattan is excellent!
You should probably know that my favorite station is Coney Island
Then you should probably know that Coney Island will eventually be featured in this series!
(Not the next video lol)
Coney Island while a good looking terminal, is underused, both by people and trains. There isn’t enough capacity to handle trains that many F trains turn at Kings Hwy, B trains don’t go to Coney Island because of capacity problems at the terminal.
Cool vid. I'd like to see one about Chambers St. Or Aqueduct Racetrack, it'll at least be quick to film.
I remember coming to this station as a kid when I would go to the ikea near it. I never really thought about how high it really was, nice to think about now
cool video this station is very deep i did not know that the a train used to run smth 9 st
I've been to Smith 9th street before. I actually like the view and it's just so much more elevated. I Kinda think I can go see the whole view again.
G line stations were always my favorites, and Smith and 9th was the best of them.
Not only is it my least. favorite, but the Meer mention of Smith & Ninth St brings back bad memories as it reminds me of events leading up the the death/murder of my cousin in 85 in Red Hook PJ's
Sorry 2 hear that but it's the best of da rest.
@@shawnwhite2417 said nobody ever. The G-Line is the system’s worst!
@@mrg6424 I still love it.
imagine the NYC subway with BART rolling stock and infrastructure honestly it would be interesting to have the NYC subway be 5' 6" gauge and have it have BART rolling stock. many junctions and curves, especially on the IRT, would be a lot different with BART tracks and rolling stock.
it would take up too much space and not be as extensive as it is now.
Can you do a G train video.
I technically just did with this one.
@@MysticTransit there used to be an extention from court sqare to queens
For people that are going to comment that there are higher stations, note how he said, “Tallest *rapid transit* station in the world”
He did not say the tallest train station in the world.
Anyhow good video!
Exactly, some people don't pay that much attention.
Anyway, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. More to come in the future!
How often does the G train run now? I lived around there for a few years as a teenager and felt as if the G train took forever....so I can see why people who live there didn't want it as a F express stop...
It runs about 9 Trains Per Hour, or about every 7-8 mins.
@@MysticTransit that's not bad it felt like it was 15-20 min back then..but that was in the 90's...I agree with you having a daytime F train run express now shouldn't be an issue
@@MysticTransit Similar to the MBTA orange line
@@MysticTransit Please, please explain why any community would easily give up direct train service to Manhattan at 4 minutes between trains, and opt instead for a G-train that does not travel to Manhattan at all, and operates as you admit at 8-9 minutes between trains? What community any where actually chooses slower, less direct, and less frequent service? About half of the F-trains Brooklyn ridership exists from Bergen Street to Church Avenue, now why should the more populated section of the line get the less frequent service? Now go to any community board of a well to do area, and try to explain to them just why you want to give them less frequent, non-direct service. Good luck with that. You do remember how L-train riders almost lost their freaking minds concerning the repairing of the 14th Street Tunnel?
@@michaelsherrell6389 Just transfer at literally most G stops, it’s very easy to let G trains have more frequency.
The true tragedy of all this is that I don't know what it looks like from the ground or what it looks like to look out from the tallest metro station... 😥
Grow up in the Red Hook (boone docks not projects) section of Bklyn. Dont want to tell my age but im a former student of the late (can anyone relate?) Patrick Daily at PS 15. Never none till i seen this video this subway station (oppose to other choices 77 or 61 bus) that i passed through many many times was historic!
This is where I plan to jump to end it. I will just walk on the tracks past the station and jump to the street below
i like that ststion is cool vew of the skyline
Smith 9thST YEAH YEAH
PLEASE, MORE FREQUENT VIDEOS!!! 🥰🥰🥰😁😁
0:45 what is that sound? You hear it on every train when they pull out of the station, and its the exact same melody each time? If anyone would know it would be someone on this channel, great stuff
R160a alstom propulsion
That’s mine’s and my family stop.my childhood home.🤗
riding it everyday during commute makes it more fun
87 feet
GOD DAYUM
and good video
Thanks.
This is one of my favorite NYC subways stations! In fact, I been dreaming on thoughts which should have been done to make the Culver line more interesting. For example, this station should be considered as an express-stop station with two express platforms on the wide flat concrete places. Additionally, between Church Avenue and Avenue X, both local and express service could continue with the elevated line being changed from triple track to quadruple track - and make Avenue X be another stop be converted into an express stop. With all this said, I thought all G trains in both would make all local stops between Bergen Street and not Church Avenue alone, but be extended to Avenue X as the new destination stop, meanwhile all F trains in both directions run express not only between Bergen Street and Church, but also between Church Avenue, 18th Avenue, Kings Highway, and Avenue X with the existing elevated track route be fully quadruple track. And then between from Avenue X and Coney Island, it runs double track.
While I would love to see this become an Express station, and express service continue down the BMT Culver Line, it would be way too expensive to implement. I think just the simple reopening of Bergen St (LL) would allow us to run Express service properly.
Also, I'm not really sure if the demand is there for express service on the BMT Culver Line. If you want a faster trip, the Sea Beach Line is relatively close by, and you can always take the train to Coney Island and take the West End, Sea Beach, or Brighton Lines.
The station is the highest in the world from street to deck, but, it is not the highest in elevation above sea level.
The Tanggula Station in China is the highest in elevation at 16,627ft.
👀
Also a curiosity, I wonder how high Brightline's Miami central station is? I was on it the other day and it was 3 levels high from the street level.
Love it
I agree with everything in this video
I'm glad you do.
The funny thing is the people in Park Slope in the 1970's had both The F Local (which usually ran with R-1 R-4 & R-9 Subway Cars) & The F Express, (which ran with R-40 Slant Subway Cars) along with the G Crosstown Local to Church Ave, and they still complained with all of that service.
You wonder why the riders complained? By your own statements you note that the local stations (half of the BrooklynF-train's ridership is between Bergen Street and Church Avenue, it has been way for decades) serving the most riders were served by the non-air-conditioned trains, while the fewer riders further down the line get the air-conditioned trains. The G train does not go to Manhattan where the great majority of the riders want to go. There riders would hold the doors on the F-trains so that folks could race down the stairs at Bergen Street delaying trains. The folks in Park Slope were not stupid, and did not like the bad subway service, so they enacted changes. And they had, and still have the wealth and political connections to make sure there needs are met. Some eager Transit Fans for decades have proposed and dreamed about F express trains, and foam at the thought of using every set of express tracks that exist. The tough part is trying to convince a community (a wealthy and politically connected also) that they should accept inferior transit service when they do not have to. Good luck with that.
@@michaelsherrell6389 So because they got the non-air conditioned trains (R1-9) stopping at their stations they complained? Sounds like jealousy to me. Why did they feel in the 1970's that they needed the air conditioned trains (R 40 Slant) that ran express from & to Coney Island when the people from Coney Island needed them more do to the longer ride than Park Slope residents who were only 7 local stops away from Manhattan? Because there were fewer riders past Church Ave? The non-air conditioned trains (R1-9) went to and from Coney Island or Kings Highway too as locals along with the expresses (R40 slant) to Church Ave. So it is not like they were the only ones dealing with the older rolling stock.
@@amazing50000 This is not that difficult. What would you as a large well to do community with money, power and influence want - a) old slow not frequent trains that are non air-conditioned that not take you where you want to (Central Manhattan) in the case of the G/GG trains or old slow trains not frequent F-trains of the R1-9 vintage, or B) the newer modern air-conditioned trains that that come every 4 minutes during the highest ridership periods in the high ridership areas. It was not that long ago that L-train riders lost their collective minds at the thought of a service shut-down to repair the 14th Street Tunnel, something that had been discussed for 1-3 years in community boards and forums before hand.
@@michaelsherrell6389 Listen, The people in Park Slope at the time were not the only ones with high ridership at the time OK. Other communities at the time with high ridership also had to deal with slow, non air conditioned trains, especially on the IRT lines. So once again, yes you are right, the Park Slope community did use their money, power and influence, which is why I said it was out of pure jealousy, because any official with sense at the time knows that you do not put the old slow non-air conditioned trains on a route (F Express) that is going a longer distance when there are newer trains that can run on that route. As far as frequency, that was the MTA fault at the time because like I said the F Local & F Express lines had their own sets of trains at the time.
I've seen a type of escalator-elevator where an enclosed compartment with a flat floor runs diagonally along an escalator...perhaps this could be installed? It would mean losing an escalator and it would require enough height.
Quick fact you can definitely see the statue of 🗽 from the platform so as a new Yorker born and raise the. Been to smith Street like 1000s times in my life time probably more it's definitely one of the taller station's
Just asking how high is the platform at Broadway junction in east ny bklyn? Seems like it comes in a close 2nd. Poss the N TRAIN at Astoria is pretty high up too.
My favorite station because it has my last name and favorite number in the name.
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I didn't know A and E trains ran to Church Ave. on this line!!!
never been to this Station! I will check it out this summer. I thought #2 & 5 West Farm Sq / Tremont Ave in the Bronx was the tallest
Gun Hill Road & 125th Street (on The 1 Line) are Very Tall too.
Theres some elevated walls in Jersey City, NJ @ 5 & 6 Streets. Do yall know about that? What is it? Old decommissioned elevated train tracks?
the view is also amazing from the bqe
Wow
I understand the old Ninth Ave el had the tallest station. 110th Street and it had an elevator
Unrelated to this video at all... but do you know why on the 1 Train the 168 & 181 st stations are elevator only? How the hell is that safe? If you have a video on that already, let me know. Thanks!
They are deep
Would you rather an elevator or a very steep escalator.
@@Maunico0809 Escalator, wouldn't have to wait.
The #1 train has to travel to the Bronx, which is at a much lower elevation, and the deep stations allow for that passage. The A train which does not travel to the Bronx for this readon was built closer to the street level. Notice that the neighborhood is called Washjngton Heights, and Inwood Heights, that is for a reason.