Cleopatra And The Shield Of Racism
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
- Netflix’s Queen Cleopatra Documentary series is absolute trash, but that doesn’t mean we can’t laugh at the craziness and controversy surrounding it.
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Cleopatra did the impossible. It managed to get worse reviews than Velma.
I'm not sure what are they going to do next, the score can't physically go lower than this
@Marco Genovesi they could do helena of troy dirty like this, but i don't think netflix could shoot another disaster without another country mad at them
Dylan is the upcoming challenger.
Now they already made Egypt angry, I'm sure they will target another country for the next "prank". Like making a "Latinx" documentary
It's a personal challenge for Hollywood right now how woke can they go even if it hurts and god does it hurt
Can you imagine the amount of entitlement & shamelessness required to plan, create and release the theft and cultural appropriation of another culture's history -- and then play victim and accuse them of racism for defending their own heritage. It's truly sickening
SMH LOL This comment is very funny and hypocritical at the same time when there are western museums with culturally appropriated(stolen) artifacts and history not to mention the mummies of desecrated tombs but there is absolutely no outrage from these "modern" Egyptians nor is there an attempt by these western(appropriators and/or thieves) to return this Egyptian culture and history to Egypt or to return these mummies back to their resting place. This selective outrage is the sickest, sanctimonious thing I ever seen before in my life.
@@moshe4787 seethe lol
@@moshe4787 "This comment is very funny and hypocritical at the same time when there are western museums with culturally appropriated(stolen) artifacts and history"
Yep and none of that shit would exist anymore if it was left in the hands of the people that created it. Sucks to suck, cope. You're butthurt that your own standards are being used against you after 10 years of attacking white kids for having dreadlocks and it's hilarious.
@@moshe4787 maybe read a dictionary and look up cultural appropriation you racist...Cultural appropriation is the inappropriate or unacknowledged adoption of an element or elements of one culture or identity by members of another culture or identity.
Museums aren't saying "look at this mummy from Dorset" you clown but this racist culture vulture claiming Cleopatra was black or princess Charlotte as black or making Anne Boleyn black is cultural appropriation...
But you're probably just an ignorant racist so it's understandable your stupidity
@@moshe4787they're physically in the wrong place, but no one is denying their origin and trying to appropriate them, I don't see an explanation on Aztec artifacts on British museums claiming that it doesn't matter what you were told at the school, these artifacts are British, and you are racist if you do not agree lol apples and oranges dude
Egyptians: Cleopatra was Macedonian Greek.
Greeks: Cleopatra was Macedonian Greek.
Historians: Cleopatra was Macedonian Greek.
Netflix Cleopatra team: Nah she wasn't
Netflix: my gran said she was black so she was... okay.
Adherence to Woke Dogma and racial pandering supercede all other considerations. This entire production is just an obscenity.
As a black brit I support the actress. Cleopatra is one if the earliest examples of multi-culturism. To the Egyptians she was depicted as Isis, to the Romans she was depicted as Venus. The white statues have long lost their colour. We all know you can have mixed heritage, the actress herself is mixed and probably is the right complexion, even as a Greek Cleopatra would not have been lilly white, let alone with an Egyptian grandmother!
@@David-ox7ps @David-ox7ps We have historical evidence that she was a Macedonian Greek and that her family was obsessed with blood 'purity' to the point they encouraged incestuous marriages (Cleopatra herself was married to two of her brothers before her affair with Caesar). It is highly unlikely that Cleopatra's grandmother was Egyptian but in the event that she was Cleopatra still wouldn't have had dark skin because native Egyptians aren't of Nubian descent.
@@suenzhong7891 Yes she was of Greek origin, but Cleopatra's father was Ptolemy XII, but he was illegitimate, his mother is not recorded. Cleopatra became Pharaoh upon his death. There is no definitive record of her mother or Grandmother, even if some historians say her mother was Cleopatra V. Egyptologist Sally-Ann Ashton who worked on the Netflix shows states, "Cleopatra ruled in Egypt long before the Arab settlement in North Africa", if the maternal side of her family were indigenous women, they would've been African, and this should be reflected in contemporary representations of Cleopatra".
She has a good point on "what bothers you so much about a black cleopatra?"
This has inspired me to make a WWII documentary starring
Indian Hitler
Arab Musolini
Hispanic Hirohito
Chinese Roosevelt
Black Churchill
Polynesian Stalin
and Native American DeGualle
They would love it unironicly
Especially emKay
Don't forget about a biography of jesus .
If your revisionism is hilarious enough, I'd gladly back your project.
Do you right-wing racists even realize that the majority of Hollywood productions and mainstream cinema EVERYWHERE are guilty of commiting whitewashing during these past 100 years or so?
I am afraid all those will be portrayed as black muslims. All will be Muslim, the Dirty Green Sun in the Sky I once Saw bouncing up and down.
Doing something racist while claiming to be the victim of racism is par for the course these days 🤦♂️
We're all just assholes trying to pretend we're not assholes and that we're better than the REAL assholes. Humans are fucking dumb.
Well said.
They accuse you of that which they themselves do or want to do. Ans they aren't sorry for being evil. They are sorry that they got caught being evil.
So fucking true. Fuck the modern racist woke retards.
If using a black actress to play Cleopatra is racist, what is using a white actor to play Jesus? A right?
I wonder if they showed 18-year-old Cleopatra marrying her 10-year-old brother. Which indisputably happened. As opposed to her training to be a warrior queen, which almost certainly didn't happen.
They did except her brother wasn’t 10 💀 pretty sure the only reason why they cast an older actor is to soften cleopatras image.
It was so cringy to watch her ‘training’ to be a warrior.
Black people don't want this woman anyway lmao
they did a girl boss move on cleopatra? Switching the race and color is not enough? Cleopatras beauty was her weapon
@@zeffmalchazeen3429 I mean there is more evidence to suggest she wasn't even that beautiful than there is the opposite.
Her brother was dangerously obese and had several health problems. (Didn't he drown in his own armor? Ive read that but I dunno how true it is)...
Oh yea my point! I think most directors try to avoid the brother/husband aspect when telling the story. Comparing this awful film to something like HBOs Rome can only lead to anger.
My favorite part about "The Mummy" complaint by all of those people defending things is that Brendan Fraser is literally playing an American in Egypt. Meanwhile, the characters that ARE Egyptian are played by actors of Middle-eastern descent, or Afrikaaner. The Mummy is literally more accurately cast than Cleopatra.
This reminded me of the time I used to watch it like every week just because I liked it so much when I was a a kid
The most tragic part of this is that Africa is so rich In it’s history and there were many rulers who WERE in fact black women. But instead of telling real African history they decide to retcon egypts history because the writers are lazy and entitled.
other than egypt what history? the mythical wakanda?
@@ronalddavis let’s see, I don’t know maybe Kush, the Kingdom of Aksum, the Benin empire, the Ashanti empire, Zimbabwe, the Kingdom of the Kongo?
@@antoniooliver7708
Yet he is right: those that pretend to represent Africa are not interested in its actual History but in their own idiocies such as Wakanda ...
Why show a Sub-Saharan African Empire, considered as such by all contemporary European Empires, defeating for the 1st time in history a modern Imperial British army, in open field, while using Assegai and hide-shields against Martini-rifles and field artillery (and one Rocket battery) ?
The truth is too glorious and they cannot play victim anymore ...
And by my own experience, this is why Zulus do despise the avrican-amuricans quite a lot... thus that is that .
@@ronalddavis Damn bro... You got Molly waped by Antonio....
because a lot of people don't know about them so it isn't that "profitable"
remember kids, companies care about money first and foremost
Calling Jada Pinkett Smith a film maker is like calling Netflix Cleopatra a documentary.
Or Jada being a good wife
She was about as faithful to historical accuracy as she was to her husband
It's like calling her a faithful wife
Omg, seriously funny 😁 😂
@@Rar830 Sloppy seconds?
This is not a docu series. Its a work of fiction concived from malice, juvenile , insecurity, and the lack of self worth these people have in their own lives.
That’s true. They hate themselves and try and change their environment to make themselves feel better and worthy, but obviously that won’t fix anything
And lack of hair, lol.
@@SB-129 omg , u just finish nailin the coffin shut 😂😂😂😂
Everything you all are saying is true, they are rewriting history but modern day Egypt is the most racist country on earth. Both things can be true.
@@SB-129 Omfg, like they all wear wigs anyway! Why doesn't Jada wear one? 💀
I don't think people would be as mad if they said this was historical FICTION instead of facts, they easily could have said this is a reimagining of Cleopatra's reign and not factual of the real person but was inspired by her story. The problem isn't that the actress is black, the problem is the misrepresentation of Egyptian culture and the skewing of the truth while claiming that it's fact.
Bill Maher called it perfect when he said “eventually you get so woke you come back out on the racist end.”
I had no idea the Egyptian government was straight up suing Netflix over this but that is goddamn hilarious to think about.
That's the only right way to handle this
An Egyptian lawyer not the government
It's ridiculous is what it is. There's no need to involve the court system in something like this.
They should, maybe they'll learn.
@@BiggieTrismegistus there is though
Calling Cleopatra black is like calling Jada a faithful wife who never slept around with other dudes. It's just not true.
Not even dudes. Her son's friends.
@@TheFourthWinchester🤢🤮 That is even worse!
If these are the options, I would sooner believe that Cleopatra was a proud trans Aboriginal woman.
😂😂😂 you REALLY think cleopatra was white in a country in AFRICA ..OOH you recessive idiots are truly stupid its like you all calling yourselves American coming from the caucasus mountains the stupidity of it all
It was an ENTANGLEMENT!!! 😂😂😂😂
The biggest problem, and why it’s getting criticized so hard is because it’s claiming to be a documentary.
Because like people are upset because she’s not Egyptian. If you’re doing a historical documentary you have to get all the ethnicities right. You can’t have everyone around Cleopatra be Egyptian… but then Cleopatra herself be black. It’s just taking the piss out of history.
Wdym? Cleopatra wasn't Egyptian she was greek Macedonian and was white alsowhat made her strong isn't fighting with sword but her intelligence and charisma wich is why Egypt was prosperous during her rule
I'm not upset that Cleopatra wasn't Egyptian! Why would anyone be upset by that???
It’s getting really hard to be black, embarrassing that so many of us have extreme victim mentality..
I remember my grandmother saying to me: I don't care what they tell you in school, the earth is flat.
“Vaccines are a lie, Covid was made up, the Moon Landing never happened.”
My 90 year old grandad
😂
Your comment is even funnier since it was the Greeks who proved earth was a sphere over 2000 years ago, and Cleopatra was Greek.
I remember my grandmother saying to me: "I don't care what they tell you in school. Hitler was right"
Yeah this is why we do historical research that aren't based on grandma's statements.
some drunk guy in a bar saying to me: I don't care what they tell you in school the Sun orbits the Earth.
the old cleopatra movie wasnt saying anything about being historically accurate. the new netflix documentary on the other hand is saying this crap is truth
Also the 1961 movie main pitch wasn't "Look Cleopatra is white" unlike this BS documentary which centers around her being black. That's aside from the documentary vs fiction argument even.
Exactly. Liz wasn’t even cast as some sort of middle finger to Egyptians or any other people group, either. She was cast because she was the “it-girl” of the time, and would bring in huge crowds. These people are absolutely delusional
The old Cleopatra was a good movie with fantastic performances from Taylor Burton and Toddy Macdowell as Octavian. This is shit
And Elizabeth Taylor had charisma and gravitas worthy of a Queen, such as Cleopatra. That movie is far more accurate than this crap.
Cleopatra was of Greek/Macedonian ethnicity. Elisabeth Taylor would have perfectly pass as a native to Greece/Macedonia, so she would perfectly pass as the same ethnicity as Cleopatra. The actress on the netflix show - not at all.
To those that pity and defend Adele James, she said that blackwashing doesn't exist and called the haters as racist so she DESERVES to suffer hate
Blackwashing most certainly is a thing Hollywood does these days.
Hollywood is just overcorrecting the steering of the ship right into another sandbar.
Not hate but some contempt and ridicule.
As an Egyptian we will never let anyone steal our history and we will fight to protect it forever and ever
Good for you. They got award for nonviolence that they copied from Mahatma Gandhi. We are with you Egypt. Stop the owning of other people's culture and hard work. Give honor where honor is due.
Too bad the Egyptians couldn't fight off the Muslims 1300 years ago from destroying the Great Alexander Library 😞
@@rgygduysdgyuygsduysdGreat Alexandrian Library was burned down by Caesar what are u talking about?
I don't care what they tell you in school, Michael Jackson was Scandinavian
He sure wished he was
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No, he was Korean 🇰🇷
@@marcogenovesi8570 how
@@GRANFRA99 surgery and skin bleaching procedures. Michael Jackson went on a journey of personal racial improvement
"I stole your thing because it's important to me and my daughter that this thing is ours now.
If you accuse me of theft, that means you're racist even though I totally stole it and I'm making it mine.
If you accuse me of theft, it also means that you must hate yourself."
-Jada, the director, and the actress
Has Netflix made an official statement about it yet?
Exactly!
I'm pretty sure Netflix don't care about this. The only thing what is important for them are the paying customers not if a production a successful one.
@@thynk-unlimited you're probably correct. Also, there is no way for Netflix to address the subject without getting a giant backlash from one group or the other.
we wuz kannnngz n shieeet maayynee
"I will steal your proven, historical thing and call you a racist if you contest it"
All plot from Cleopatra
"Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you." - Nitzsche
The difference between the Mummy and this movie Cleopatra, is that it’s fiction vs supposedly non-fiction. The mummy takes place in a fictional world, cleopatras’ trying to portray itself as truth and “what she was really like”
That feeling when asterix and obelix is more historically accurate than a documentary
dokumenteri
legendary
nice!!!
I love how the slaves in that are such eloquent speakers
@@colinvoorneveld this was not unusual in ancient world.
As an Egyptian, I am not responsible for the psychological problems that African Americans suffer from. 60% of Egypt's area is on the continent of Asia, the Sinai Peninsula, Port Fouad and Port Said, and the rest of Egypt lies on the Mediterranean coast. We, Albia, Tunisia, Algeria and Morocco, the African countries bordering the Mediterranean basin are not black. And Cleopatra was the queen of Egypt and cherished her, and she was a Greek Macedonian
Based on what afrocentrists from USA are trying to sell - you are a descendant of Arab invaders who did the racial cleansing of ancient Egypt and replaced the black people with Arabs.
That "historical" fact has one big problem - Arabs have conquered Persia and did not eradicate Persians because modern Iranians are proof of it, Arabs have conquered Berbers and have not eradicate them either because Berbers exist to this day... so why would Egypt be an exemption? Because it is not. Because this racial change in Egypt when Arabs came *did not* happen.
Actually, this is not correct. The Sinai is in West Asia, but the lands west of the Sinai is in Northeast Africa. That said the DELTA is 300 kilometers from West Asia (for example Damanhur), but Nubia is 1000 kilometers away from Damanhur. A lot of the ancient Egyptians came from the Middle East, West Asia, and also North Africa. Scholars say ancient farmer Middle East people came many thousands of years ago to Egypt, so long before Arabs came, people from the Middle East already came thousands of years ago. Also, the Canaanites settled in Egypt in the north.
@@QUINTUSMAXIMUS My brother, please review your information about Arish, Port Fouad, Port Said and Sinai in Asia, Africa, a multi-ethnic continent, a multi-ethnic continent, the multi-ethnic continent of Asia, the Mongolian race, the Turkish race, the Persian race, the Iraqi Iraq, the Arab race, the Caucasian race. We are the inhabitants of the Mediterranean basin, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, for a black year
Most black Americans love ghetto culture, so never take their criticisms seriously.
@@Mrsherefyou are right brother, Africa is the most genetically/racially diverse region on the planet. It's like a whole world in itself, but these stupid muricans don't realise that
I have worked in Hollywood on the creative side my entire adult life. Hearing someone say these things is balm to my soul. Yes, yes, a thousand times yes. I wish to God our industry could get its head around these simple truths. Thank you.
Your industry is race by jews, you'll never get the truth
Cleopatras father Ptolemy XII was illegitimate and only became Pharaoh after his father and then half sister had died. Being illegitimate meant he was probably not fully Greek and likely of mixed Greek and Egyptian heritage. Cleopatra became Pharaoh upon his death. There is no record of Cleopatra’s maternal line. Neither her mother (supposedly Cleopatra V) or Grandmother is confirmed. It makes sense that her mother was mixed (African and Greek) especially as she is the only Ptolemy to learn Egyptian.
@@David-hc4xh Egpytians aren't black tho.
Can't wait to use "Grandma told me" argument during college exam
Comparing a documentory to a fictional movie about a mummy says literally everything you need to know about the people involved.
It fails even more if you consider the fact that there WERE white Egyptologists in the late 1800's and early 1900's, such as Howard Carter, who discovered the tomb of Tutankhamun.
This video compares a documentary to a cartoon, actually 2 cartoons, one with a live action remake.
we wuz kangzzz n shiiieeeeet
blacks want to change history and feel entitled to every role
it's not even a documentary, how is this even close to one
Most other countries probably actually think America is a whacked out nutcase of a country because of our extreme politics, so hate our entertainment because we absolutely went full blown crazy on incorporating every little politically-correct, check-every-box, virtue signaling thing in what was supposed to be just entertainment… and they really aren’t that far off the mark…
Extreme politics and our military sticking it's dirty-ass finger in every cake in the bakery.
We didn't do anything. The judeo satanic pedophile banksters who all came here after WW2 are the ones who did this. Half of Joe Biden's cab is jewish. A quarter of white house staffers. The entire boards of every major media company. Donald Trump's entire family is jewish. Bill Clinton was best buds with Epstein. Obama was on Epstein's plane/island. Maxwell was an Israeli intelligence asset. The jews killed JFK for opposing their nuclear program and then killed his brother for investigating the first murder. The CIA is completely owned by Israel. US gives Israel $3 trillion a year in reparations for a holocaust that never happened after we sent 40 million white men to their deaths. For nothing. We killed all of our strongest men so these jews and their satanic devilry could enslave the human race.
If I didn't live here and only knew about Americans from TV and movies, I'd think that we were at least 50% or more black, and black male/White female was the majority of relationships, because that is what is shown by (((Hollywood))).
Yep, we do think your media are batshit insane. And your politics. The worst thing is that the PC shit follows the media and is lapped up by weak-minded liberal arts academia. Which then stinks up society. So thanks, I guess.
Yes, yes that is what those of us in other countries think. America is fu**ed. 🤡🤡🤡
I once heard someone complain that German TV show didn't have any African-Americans. In Germany.
Yeeeeeah, we should be just BURSTING with Americans.....in Germany....oh,wait
The amount of evidence that Cleopatra is black is the same amount as the hair on Jada's head
Original.
Damn...
Accurate
😂True.
Look out for a Will Smith shaped hand
“I remember my Grandmother saying to me ... I don’t care what they teach you at school, Cleopatra was black.” Granny off her meds again
I, too, base my PR response regarding obvious talking points and justified controversies on what my senile relatives said to me when I was a kid.
Grandma Said Egypt In Africa - She On Crack - We All Know Egypt Is Middle Eastern - 🧐(Middle 🌍 Eastern)
Of grandma said it! POOF! Instantly changes history.
@Slice & We All Know Greeks Originated & Birth Land Was Africa So When Alexander The Fake Got2 Egypt He Celebrated By Blowing The Noses & Mouth Of The Statues Because He Was So Happy 2Get Back Home 2 Mama Africa 🤣
@@Chaddron oh you are hilarious
The Movie Cynic: “If you’re ever in a relationship and you’re wondering if it’s toxic, compare it to how Hollywood handles criticism and if the tactics are similar….Get the f**k out! Run!”
That is 100 percent facts!
cleopatra was also a terrible queen. She lost her crown twice, betrayed her allies, was a huge coward, got passed around by the leaders of rome and made egypt a vassal of rome by the end of her reign.
This is not true Egypt thrived abundantly during her reign and the people loved her.
@@pom700 egypt had grain during that time but they didnt thrive. when you have multiple coups and are subsequently taken over by a neighboring rival, you arent a good leader. Her and her brother's poor decisions led to the ptlomey's losing egypt.... something they held onto since the since of alexander the great. she was the last ptlomey and was a bad leader. idk how you can even argue that. egypt lost its independence under her.
I remember when I was a boy my grandpa told me "Don't belive what they tell you at school Martin Luther King was Mexican" stunning and brave 👏
Of course because all North Americans are the same ! just like apparently all Africans are.
MOST EGYPITIANS ARE DECENDANTS OF TUTANKHAMUN. NUBIAN MIXED. ARABS LATER MIXED WITH MANY EGYPTIANS. EARLY EGYTPTIAN PHAROHS WERE NUBIAN AND ARAB MIXED PHAROHS. AT THE FALL OF EGYPT, THOUSANDS OF YEARS LATER, GREEKS MIXED WITH SOME EGYPTIANS SO DID ROMANS WHEN THEY TOOK OVER. CLEAOPATRA WAS LIGHTER SKINED BORN IN EGYPT , AFRICA. MAKES HER AFRICAN. THE BLACK NAME OR WHITE NAME CALLING STARTED IN 20TH CENTURY. STOP THE LIES. ALL THE RACIST AGAINST DARK SKINNED PEOPLE HAVE CAME OUT IN DROVES GOOD FOR NETFLIX TO EXPOSE THEM. EVEN IN EGYPT THE NUBIAN AND LIGHTER SKINED EGYPTIANS ARE MAD AT THEIR LEADERS FOR TRYING TO WHITEWASH THEIR EGYPTIAN PAST TO PLEASE EUROPEANS. CHANGE IS NOW HAPPEING, THANK YOU NETFLIX EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE WRONG, CLEAOPATRA WAS LIGHTER SKINNED MIXED GREEK WHEN GREEK TOOK OVER LATER ROMANS TOO OVER. SHE IS STILL EGYPTIAN AFRICAN.
Your grandpa was wrong.
He was obviously white🙄🙄🙄🙄
The people in charge of this show look exactly how you'd think they look.
😂🤝 absolutely spot on mate - I said this very thing to the wife today! 😅
That should say something for all the journalists who want to rationalize their intentions
Clean and tidy wearing formal office wear right and not a piercing in sight?
I miss the time when movie makers would actually do their research and physically go to other countries in an attempt to get accurate representation of the people and events in said country (provided that the film is set in a different, real world, country that would require such care in order to, you know, not be completely offensive towards the people they’re making a movie out of).
7:49 I hate owens face right here. You can tell hes seething because he can’t spread his lies and ideology when faced with facts by a person from that culture.
To quote Saint Bernard of Clairvaux, "The Road to Hell is Paved with Good Intentions". Way to represent a minority by misrepresenting an entire country. Well done Netflix, you pulled a Cuties on us again
Except they got away with the Cuties thing.
@@TheBlackThorneKnight I still can’t understand how they got away with that! “The people” truly are sheeple!
It’s been suggested that only one third of any nation is ever awake or mentally capable seeing the bs, governments literally bank on this knowledge- if the people ( the 2 3rds ) hear it from “their team” they will never question it! Utterly scary!
Ah, i keep quoting that and never knew who it was from, Thanks~
That quote translated today would goes like... ''Your intentions ain't worth sh*t compared to your actions'' because God knows you need to make everything simpler today
this "documentary" was definitely not made with good intentions lol
Off topic but I’m studying that bloke and that’s one hell of a quote to drop into essays and shit
Jada Pinkett Smith: *Cleopatra is a strong black woman*
History Fans: Where is the evidence?
Jada Pinkett Smith: *Some Senile lady told me she was like "Trust me Bro"*
My source is that I made it the fuck up!
No no no, her defense is "the vision I experienced while blanking out while cheating on my husband with a 6ft tall guy from the hood told me she's black"
it was a senile Black lady
@@lunanacomet it's "entanglements"
The David Guetta part was funny, considering that House Music originates with Black Americans, yes it’s Black American subculture! 😅
The second comical part is that this particular Cleopatra was not even an Egyptian, let alone African. She was a descendant from Macedonians. She maybe had some African admixture in her, which would appear to be a biracial look.
“Cleopatra’s racial background. It’s a little complicated, so do follow closely! She was born in early 69 BC as the descendant of a line of Egyptian kings in a dynasty that went back 250 years. Her ancestor Ptolemy I, a companion of Alexander the Great, founded the dynasty in the late fourth century BC. Ptolemy was Macedonian Greek in origin (he grew up at the royal court of Alexander’s father in Macedonia, the northern part of the Greek peninsula), and established himself as king of Egypt in the convulsive years after Alexander’s death. “.
(Source: Duane W. Roller)
For the second claim but also first claim, which makes it the third comical part. See Hollywood has been on the Egyptian bandwagon since the days cinematography. exists!
Since you wanted facts about ancient Egypt, here are the facts.
"Many of the sites reveal evidence of important interactions between Nilotic and Saharan groups during the formative phases of the Egyptian Predynastic Period (e.g. Wadi el-Hôl, Rayayna, Nuq’ Menih, Kurkur Oasis). Other sites preserve important information regarding the use of the desert routes during the Protodynastic and Pharaonic Periods, particularly during periods of political and military turmoil in the Nile Valley (e.g. Gebel Tjauti, Wadi el-Hôl)."
(Yale University Department of Egyptology, Theban Desert Road Survey and Yale Toshka Desert Survey)
*Some groups (using cemeteries E-01-2, E-03-1, E-03-2, and E-09-4) show some affiliation with sub-Saharan Africans, readable in the pottery assemblage and other grave goods, as well as some morphological features “
(Irish 2010; Kobusiewicz and Kabaciński 2010; Czekaj-Zastawny and Kabaciński 2015).*
*There is now a sufficient body of evidence from modern studies of skeletal remains to indicate that the ancient Egyptians, especially southern Egyptians, exhibited physical characteristics that are within the range of variation for ancient and modern indigenous peoples of the Sahara and tropical Africa.*
*In general, the inhabitants of Upper Egypt and Nubia had the greatest biological affinity to people of the Sahara and more southerly areas* [...]
Any interpretation of the biological affinities of the ancient Egyptians must be placed in the context of hypothesis informed by the archaeological, linguistic, geographic or other data.
*In this context the physical anthropological evidence indicates that the early Nile Valley populations can be identified as part of an African lineage, but exhibiting local variation.*
This variation represents the short and long term effects of evolutionary forces, such as gene flow, genetic drift, and natural selection influenced by culture and geography"
(Kathryn A. Bard, Egyptians, physical anthropology of Physical anthropology (2015))
“The process of the peopling of the Nile Valley likely shaped the population structure and early biological similarity of Egyptians and Nubians. As others have noted, affinity among Nilotic populations was due to an aggregation of events, including environmental, linguistic, and sociopolitical changes over a great deal of time. This study seeks to *evaluate the relationships of Nubian and Egyptian groups in the context of the original peopling event.* Cranial nonmetric traits from 18 Nubian and Egyptian samples, *spanning Lower Egypt to Lower Nubia and approximately 7400 years,* were analyzed using Mahalanobis D2 as a measure of biological distance. A principal coordinates analysis and spatial-temporal model were applied to these data. The results reveal temporal and spatial patterning *consistent with documented events in Egyptian and Nubian population history. Moreover, the Mesolithic Nubian sample clustered with later Nubian and Egyptian samples,* indicating that events prior to *the Mesolithic were important in shaping the later genetic patterning of the Nubian population.* Later contact through the establishment of the Egyptian fort at Buhen, Kerma’s position as a strategic trade center along the Nile, and Egyptian colonization at Tombos *maintained genetic similarity among the populations”*
(Godde K, A new analysis interpreting Nilotic relationships and peopling of the Nile Valley (July 2018))
“Post-Pleistocene climatic improvement in the Northern Hemisphere after ca. 9550 BC allowed human populations to recolonize large parts of North Africa in what is today the Sahara Desert. In the Egyptian Western Desert, the beginnings of human occupation date as early as ca. 9300 BC. Occupation continued until the middle of the third millennium BC when final desertification of the area no longer afforded human occupation. The settlement of the Neolithic cattle and sheep/goat herders developed along with the rhythm of alternating wet and dry climatic oscillations. One of the areas occupied intensively during the early and middle Holocene was Gebel Ramlah. Pastoral populations established their settlements around the shores of a paleo-lake adjacent to a rocky massif, to exploit the local savannah environment. During most of the Neolithic, they buried their dead dispersed outside of their settlements. Only during the Final Neolithic (after ca. 4600 BC) did they place them exclusively in cemeteries. Of six Final Neolithic cemeteries investigated at Gebel Ramlah to date, one is entirely unprecedented, not only in North Africa but also globally at such an early date. For just under 200 years (ca. 4500-4300 BC), it served exclusively for the inhumation of infants who died around (perinate) or shortly after the time of birth (neonate). Thirty-two burial pits contained skeletal remains of 39 individuals, not only infants but also at least two adult females accompanied by perinates/neonates. Older children (> 3 years) were interred at a nearby cemetery that primarily comprised adults.
[…]
The area around Gebel Ramlah was settled since the beginning of the Early Neolithic, and the density of settlement reached its maximum during the El Jerar phase (climatic optimum of the Holocene). Traces from the Middle, Late, and Final Neolithic are less intensive and random. In fact, for the Final Neolithic, we have more information on mortuary behavior than for the settlement pattern and subsistence. Between 4500 and 4300 BC, south-western fringes of the Gebel Ramlah lake served as an extended burial ground for different populations. Different ancestry and relationships of these populations can be followed on the basis of archaeological and, partially, bioarchaeological arguments.
“These people were certainly mobile, perhaps spending only a few months per year at Gebel Ramlah. The E-09-02 cemeteries for neonates and adults belonged to another, more sedentary group with limited mobility; however, we cannot trace their origins based on the available record. An almost complete lack of grave goods does not allow comparative analyses. On the other hand, peculiar characters of the skeletal remains at these cemeteries-numerous neonatal/perinatal individuals and poorly preserved subadults/adults-do not allow reliable studies based on craniometric or dental data. But, qualitatively, there are no obvious differences among all populations from Gebel Ramlah at the beginning of the Final Neolithic. Thus, the two groups, culturally different, were likely not much different biologically, possibly deriving from the same region of Africa.
[…]
Ethnographic data offer support by showing how radically different children are treated in various African societies (Gottlieb 2004a, b; Pawlik 2004; Kabaciński et al. (2018)).”
(Agnieszka Czekaj-Zastawny & Tomasz Goslar & Joel D. Irish & Jacek Kabaciński, Gebel Ramlah-a Unique Newborns’ Cemetery of the Neolithic Sahara,African Archaeological Review volume 35, pages393-405(2018))
not just they are disrespectful to other country's culture and history, now they are truly racist when claiming others who value the truth and correct them racist. That actress and director should also be sued, not just Netflix
"Whats wrong with hiring a black actress" ok please keep this same energy when they make a white black panther or static shock or a white blade.
The mummy was set in a fictional universe and kept to the lore pretty well. The curses, books of the dead and living. How the mummified the dead. And yet it was never advertised as a docu movie..
NOOOOOOO! That was real! My grandma said so!
And I'm trying to figure out what Brenden Fraser fault was? He portrayed an American who had knowledge of the area not as an Egyptian.
Even the language was based on how they think it might have been using Coptic as a guide.
It infuriates me how that tv show presenter mentioned that as some smug, enlightened gotcha-moment.
The guy who played the mummy wasn’t white, passed quite well as an egyptian.
What the hell has Brendan Fraser playing in "The Mummy" to do with ANYTHING really? His character is an AMERICAN, so he's cast perfectly... what am I missing here?
Nothing is just another Gaslighting Nothingburger by the Globalist Left and it's pro non consenting sexual perversions and sexual predators supporting Afrocentrism cultist minions.
They lost me at the bakery on that one...
Probably talking about Arnold Vosloo (South African) playing an Egyptian mummy. Never mind that it's a made-up magical character in a cheesy throwback to 1930s adventure movies.
Maybe she thinks Fraser played the Mummy himself instead of the hero.
Considering all the things they’ve been wrong about with Cleopatra, it’s possible.
That says more about US education and IQ level than anything else relevant
The mummy actually lines up historically though… it’s 1920s Egypt where the British had a heavy presence. And the main character was French Foreign legion…
Honestly if they made a documentary about Cleopatra this bad imagine the chaos that would happen if they tried to do this with a subject like World War 2.
This is just pure 'merica ignorance. I swear even if they had the actual Cleopatra back from the dead, and she told them "No, this is not what my culture looked like" they would call her a racist.
Indeed. This is just entitlement and arrogance to the highest degree. I hope Netflix loses nig time
They would
What you must understand is that the Pyramids have been standing there for over 30,000 years! The reason why the Eurocentrics tell you that the Pyramids is 3,000 years old, is to tie themselves into the story of them building the Pyramids! All we do is add an extra Zero to give you the correct dates of around how long the Pyramids have been standing there. Which completely removes the Eurocentrics from the story of who built the Pyramids, Bc there were No white ppl or Arabs at this point in time! There were only Negroid's walking around!!!!
They would claim she has been empirical brainwashed and try to gaslight her into thinking she is black
Yep, people these days are ignorant
Did she SERIOUSLY say a word in Brendan Fraser’s way?
Man struggled through shit, came back and is an icon of many people childhoods and adulthoods, ain’t no way she compares herself to him.
00:57
"Giancarlo Esposito is... ELON MUSK"
Can’t wait for MLK played by Owen Wilson or Malcom X played by Ryan Reynolds
Please, someone clip the scenes where she sword fights. I must have context for why someone who looks like she's never lifted a heavy object in her entire life is somehow an expert swordswoman.
Ironically, she is clearly using a Kopis, a Greek weapon. Which is another case of historical inaccuracy, at this point the Egyptian military was Roman controlled and Roman in structure and training, and supplied with standard Roman kit, meaning aside from the fact that Cleopatra would never have been trained to use a sword, she would most certainly not have been using a Kopis, she would of been using a Gladius or possibly a Spatha.
MOST EGYPITIANS ARE DECENDANTS OF TUTANKHAMUN. NUBIAN MIXED. ARABS LATER MIXED WITH MANY EGYPTIANS. EARLY EGYTPTIAN PHAROHS WERE NUBIAN AND ARAB MIXED PHAROHS. AT THE FALL OF EGYPT, THOUSANDS OF YEARS LATER, GREEKS MIXED WITH SOME EGYPTIANS SO DID ROMANS WHEN THEY TOOK OVER. CLEAOPATRA WAS LIGHTER SKINED BORN IN EGYPT , AFRICA. MAKES HER AFRICAN. THE BLACK NAME OR WHITE NAME CALLING STARTED IN 20TH CENTURY. STOP THE LIES. ALL THE RACIST AGAINST DARK SKINNED PEOPLE HAVE CAME OUT IN DROVES GOOD FOR NETFLIX TO EXPOSE THEM. EVEN IN EGYPT THE NUBIAN AND LIGHTER SKINED EGYPTIANS ARE MAD AT THEIR LEADERS FOR TRYING TO WHITEWASH THEIR EGYPTIAN PAST TO PLEASE EUROPEANS. CHANGE IS NOW HAPPEING, THANK YOU NETFLIX EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE WRONG, CLEAOPATRA WAS LIGHTER SKINNED MIXED GREEK WHEN GREEK TOOK OVER LATER ROMANS TOO OVER. SHE IS STILL EGYPTIAN AFRICAN.
If they really wanted to show her off as being a badass, show her off as a naval commander, which she actually seemed to have had a knack for. She even sailed her fleet to aid Octavian and Mark Anthony in the battle of Philippi, but was hindered by a storm and arrived too late to be of use. You can have your feminist power cake AND eat it too, by giving her an actual male dominated job and performing well in it. But instead they went for the swordfighting...
@@the_tactician9858 no they could not show brain muscles ,too trasgressive
Maybe we should ask that lady's grandmother about that one. She seems like a good source.
The funny thing is that Elizabeth Taylor in all likelihood looked closer to the real Cleopatra than the Netflix actress. The only real inaccuracy with that one is that the real Cleopatra was supposedly not all that pretty, unlike Liz Taylor.
Sandradiaz, you said what I was going to say about Liz Taylor's casting. 😊 Not too white for the role, but definitely too beautiful, if accuracy is the issue.
Not in all likelihood - she definitely was closer as can be seen by all extant depictions of Cleopatra.
As for her looks, Cleopatra was famous for being a great beauty, especially in her youth. She was compared to Helen of Troy.
@@stsk1061 If the depictions of her on coins and such captures her general looks, I'd say the standards of great beauty were quite different then than now.
But Cleopatra was unusual for a woman of her time and place. She was highly educated, spoke several languages, and was also clever and politically savvy. And apparently also quite charming.
I venture to say that her personality and gifts made her an enchanting woman, which could create an aura of beauty enhancement.
@@sydneykendall7125 I wouldn't put too much stake into the coins. They are about the size of your thumb nail.
In any case, the Romans knew how she looked. She lived there for two years.
Cleopatra had kind of inbred looking feature, esp the nose.
I find it laughable that another country thinks they can tell a nation that they know their history better than they do!
@the movie cynic just for info; this vid stops loading for me at 12s. I can refresh, restart, whatever but it dies at 12seconds each time. Meanwhile I can stream any other video without any problems. UK timezone. The ads load in fine and play for minutes if not skipped before your video runs.
It stops running for me a few minutes in.
"My grandma told me I dont care what anyone tells you in school cleopatra was black"...yeah well my grandad thought I was his daughter's husband (my dad) for the last 10 years of his life sooooooo
Another words, do what we say, don’t learn to read or question anything, that sounds right out of the f3minism indoctrination handbook lol
so grandma was racist as well, cuz all she cared was skin color.
That was weak 🗑️ little girl Egypt is in Africa 🌍 it was known as kemet civilization not Egyptian civilization period 💯 Ancient Egypt was pure African people not Egyptian and Mediterranean dark 🌑 skin bs 💯
Cleopatra is well documented as a Macedonian Greek including contemporary depictions of her as white with red hair. This is a very common feature of some people around the Mediterranean and even today in Turkey and Syria there are red haired freckled people. Also Cleopatra was not a warrior queen. She never fought a battle and was never trained in sword fighting. Eqyptians are rightly insulted at this travesty of historical inaccuracy. And as far as the Dylan Mulvaney like character on the right of the video, he/she is just a social justice princess. We have to make sure they keep losing money.
Why do these people keep making a need to make women as "manly" warrior?
Worse, they also make them unnecessarily toxic and rude
As a white, big nosed woman of Mediterranean and Turkish origin, I DARE these Hollywood cucks to cast a woman who looks like me. I fuckin dare them.
I don’t think she had red hair bud
She was French Canadian, specifically from the the booming metropolis of art and culture,Chicoutimi.
@@keankolodziejski1605You'd be surprised that it was possible to be red headed in thos areas back then.
"I don't care what they tell you in school, Cleopatra was black".
And we don't care what your grandmother told you in the past, Cleopatra was not black. Deal.
Greece needs to sue Netflix too.
Cleopatra came from a dynasty of conquering Greeks named the Ptolemaic dynasty. She was ethnically greek . She is probably the only one from her dynasty that bothered to learn egyptian. And I think it was her wit, charisma, and talent in various aspects that made her beautiful and not only her looks
The Seleucid’s were a Greek dynasty too (descendants of a different Greek general).
Seleucid's were definitely also Greek. And check out any familial lineage of Cleopatra. Obscenely inbred to keep to the norms of the the previously established Egyptian pharisees.
@@Nosliw837 interesting I didn’t know the seleucids were Greek.
@@letsunnahgoforth for about 250-300 years before, presumably ( I can't say to know their history perfect), before the Romans came along
I think it's funny that Black Americans are so desperate to claim an imperialist and colonizer as one of their own. Over the past few years it's become blatantly obvious that Europeans and white people in general are held to a vastly different standard and much more stringent standard when it comes to judging their historical actions.
Not like Nubia had its own Pharaonic dynasty they could've made a documentary for.
That demand research and that is to much work...
Or it’s own black Queen who went into combat against the Romans (at exactly the same time).
I totally agree with this although I think some of this backlash is rooted in anti blackness.
Fun fact: The Egyptian Minister of Antiquities goes out of his way to deny the existence of black ancient Egyptians and made sure than NONE of the Nubian pharoahs are represented in the Cairo museum....
@@allangibson8494 Don't, dude. Last thing we need is a documentary where Boudica was portrayed by a black actress. I mean, some spinless pricks already allowed a show with a black girl playing Anne fucking Boleyne to air.
Can’t wait for the Chinese Christopher Columbus show to come out on Hulu.
My favourite part was where Cleopatra got on all fours and started twerking for Caesar yelling "WE WUZ KANGS"
“Some people believe they’re Napoleon. Beliefs are neat, cherish them, but don’t share them around like they’re the truth.” - Bill Hicks
Jada’s real goal was to put mindy’s Velma scores to shame.. someone somewhere said it couldn’t be done and she said “Will, hold my beer.” 😂
Mirror mirror on the wall, who’s the most oppressed of all? Making anything anti white and/or anti male that bombs is like street cred for these idiots in LA
more likely she said "affair partner" hold my beer. Then she called will and told him she would be late because she was working.
Imagine their outrage if there was a documentary about Martin Luther king jr and he was played by Jim Carrey
The government of Egypt and the Director of Antiquities in Egypt formally declared their objection to this show as the show tried to distort their history....
"Remember kids, no matter whay they tell you in school, Cleopatra was a 17ft male transformer"...
🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬 Hello Egyptian here, the mummy you showed is queen tiye and she is not black
Please be care afrocentric movement are spreading lies about the origin of the ancient Egyptian civilization claiming it is black which is not correct, they claim that we modern Egyptians invaded our own country to cut the link between the modern Egyptians and the ancient Egyptian which is not correct, I myself is Coptic one of the oldest races in Egypt and no one in my family Is black
Finally I want to thank all the brave people who despite risking being called racist stood with us to protect my people's identity and heritage from blackwashing, god bless you all
Nefertiti and Nefertari were examples of Black queens, and that was actually the norm until invasions from Asia. Also, Sheikh Anta Diop is a scholar that found they were Black in ancient times. Additionally, the Afrocentrists say that these modern day Egyptians are invaders, but in reality, the average Egyptian has 67 percent original Egyptian DNA, though they are paler in color, so they are both originals and invaders or settlers mixed, mostly original, but they don't call themselves Black as they aren't usually that dark.
So, before you start with that bs about how we have no history in your country, check yourselves.
Man, you Egyptians really have a problem with having any relation to black people.
We African Americans don't give a rat's behind about Jada-Pinkett-Shakur who cheats on her husband and then gets her history wrong, but we are sick and tired of the Egyptian attitude regarding race and colour, though. We can look down on Jada and still check you all about your preference for white over Black, when the fact is Black people never did anything to Egypt and the british colonized you and left the nation in ruins.
How do you view the mummy movies? I'm curious about how egypt views the movies. The ones with Brendan Frasier.
Greetings from Athens. Greek people support 100% what you've said.
Black people are the original home people to all of Africa’s parts and predate all humans scientifically. So no, we were a part of Egyptian civilization and you’re in fact later settlers on that land (plenty of ppl have come and conquer and intermixed in Egypt over time) and minimizing us. Even the statues and art resemble African features and skin tones of brown.. so the evidence is also visual
I'm an Egyptian American as well. I'm 44 but only been to Egypt twice on vacation. I'm not an Egyptian Copt, as all my family is/was muslim as far as I know. Personally I don't do religion at all.. Anyway, recently I did a DNA test (23 and me) and to my surprise I found out that I'm 88% Egyptian Copt. The idea that Egyptians are now Arab invaders is utter disproven pseudoscience nonsense steaming from afrocentrism. Arabs invaded Egypt with 11 thousand soldiers, and the population of Egypt at the time was at least 15 times the entire Arabian peninsula combined. The idea that these invaders changed the demographics of Egypt which was one of the most if not the most populous countries in the area is comical. ALL modern DNA studies show that the overwhelmingly majority of Egyptians kept their hemomgeny. Arabs who reside in Egypt are mostly Bedieuns who kept to their own for the most part since being tribal is their thing.
This is one of the biggest and latest studies carried out by National Geographic
Geno 2.0 Next Gen findings: Modern Day Egyptians
"Northern African (68% of the Egyptian genetic pool),
Southwest Asia & Persian Gulf (17%),
Jewish Diaspora (4%),
Asia Minor (3%),
East Africa (3%),
Southern Europe (3%).
Afrocentric theory which is BS pseudoscience that is a threat to other cultures, and can not be allowed to spread without am intellectual fight.
Take out all the claims that she was black, remove the label 'documentary', and most would shrug and say OK but it's still shite because it's not just the casting that's wrong. Cleopatra was not a 'warrior'. She was a politician caught up in a time when whatever side you were on, you were likely to lose. She was incredibly smart, spoke several languages (with Greek being the dominant one in the palace and she probably spoke Greek with Antony and Caesar since they would have spoken it, too), she was interested in astronomy (and astrology, which were intertwined at the time), history, theology (she was the first of the Ptolemies to learn Egyptian and lead the services in some temples -- having the incarnation of Isis leading the show gave the chosen temple a lot of kudos). She practiced with poisons (on prisoners due to be executed) to find combinations that were effective and painless, suggesting she already had an idea what was coming and wanted to prepare for it. In other words she was extremely well educated -- a rarity for women at the time and probably what attracted men to her because, based on her busts and coins, it wasn't her looks. What she wasn't was a physical fighter, she had soldiers to do that for her. Yet this series makes her look like she comes from the hood, wielding swords and beating up the guys. No! This show is bad and wildly inaccurate on so many levels it's insane. To have the nerve to call itself a 'documentary' is to reveal the ignorance of its creators and their total lack of respect for ALL aspects of history. They're merely using Cleopatra as a tool to advance their personal agenda, and the one in this series and the one in reality bear as much relation to each other as I do to Abraham Lincoln (that is, none whatsoever). The only similarity between this version and the real Cleopatra is that they share the same name and some key events. If Cleopatra herself could rise from the dead, I have little doubt she'd use her knowledge of poisons to garner some revenge.
If all they did was cast a black actor as a badass warrior queen who was in reality not a warrior queen, with it abusing history, it would have been a modern equivalent of Troy. Horrible in accuracy to source material, but people would still watch it because it's badass.
You’re right. It’s pure tokenism. I still believe in equal rights, and yes, equal portrayals of race, identity and creed on screen, but not at the expense of the story, or in this case, its historical accuracy. These media companies think pandering is a replacement for good writing, and that acquiring new and more diverse audiences isn’t going to cost them the fans they already have; namely when recycling and rehashing classic stories with remakes and reboots that swap characteristics of their protagonists while butchering the original quality of the story.
My grandmother told the moon was made of cheese… but then I grew up.
The clip of the old black formerly-menstruating-person saying that her gran told her Cleopatra was black is literally everywhere and I love it. The level of retardation in that statement is beyond what I thought was possible
Clearly, the whole world must be wrong because granny said so.
@Donald Donald "Well folks, _Mama's_ wrong again!"
And some old people wonder why people don't listen to them.
I was also pretty bewildered by that seemingly female human was able to sprout this level of bullshit.
But you know what's EVEN MORE fucked up? THE FUCKING CLIP WAS PART OF A FUCKING DOCUSERIES AND NO ONE, NOT A SINGLE HUMAN ON THAT FUCKING TEAM THAT WORKED ON THE THING, NOT THE DIRECTOR, NOT THE SCREENWRITER, NOT THE PRODUCER, NOT THE EDITOR, NOT THE MARKETING GUY, NOT THE GUY THAT POSTED THAT SHIT TO UA-cam, NOT ONE OF THEM, THOUGHT IT WAS STUPID?????
Why would someone even say that, lol😂
It gets even better, she´s an actual professor that teaches "African studies" at college!
2:21 _"What's so wrong with casting a black actress to play Cleopatra?"_
Ok, let's explore this question, right after we make a documentary about Martin Luther King Jr. and hire Chow Yun-fat to play the role.
I'd pay to see that!
Real point is why do people associate Dr.king, with the excellence of Africa. As if African history began in the 1600s.
@@paulmahsahn1766 Yeah, that's not the point at all. I chose him because he was a beloved prominent black historical figure that nearly anyone who read my comment would know. The people asking what's wrong with switching the race of a person for a documentary are also black. I basically put them in the position of the Egyptian people to answer that ridiculous question for themselves. Not sure why this needs explaining...
Also, it's important to note that Africa is a continent, not a nation. We're talking specifically of Egyptian history here and changing the ethnicity of a well documented historical figure from that nation. Egyptian history; not Nigerian, Ethiopian, or Rwandan -- but Egyptian. I hope that clears that up.
I guess for commenters like yourself I should of swapped Dr.King with Mahatma Gandhi, George Washington, Henry V, or Rosa Parks, would that have made more sense to you?
@@paulmahsahn1766Especially considering that each country in Africa is very diverse with their own cultures and history. Ethiopia is one of the oldest countries in the world and they didn't think to draw from their history?
@@mish375 just as powerful as Egypt was. And Ethiopia gave birth to Egypt.
I'm Egyptian, A COPTIC CHRISTIAN EGYPTIAN, I shout that out loud because we are the most pure blooded Egyptians out there and that's not only my opinion that's what scientists and historians also agreed on , and i tell you that every word that Bassem Youssef said is right and i totally agree with him.
Yes Egypt had lots of mixed cultures throughout its history like Greeks, Romans and Arabs but the Egyptian blood didn't mix and change that much and that's because for centuries we Egyptians had a golden tradition rule to marry our cousins, and that tradition is still present until now especially in Upper Egypt(From Assiut to Aswan), although that tradition seems silly and bad from a scientific biological point of view, but that doesn't matter, silly or not we kept that tradition of marrying our cousins for centuries and that helped us to preserve our pure Egyptian blood not mixed as long as we could, and the result is what you see now and that is modern Egyptians looks typical to their Ancient Egyptian ancestors, just look at my skin color and Bassem Youssef's skin color we are almost the same although he is a Muslim who was born and lived in Cairo and I am a Coptic Christian who was born and lived in Luxor and there is almost 1000 km distance between us, doesn't that tell you a thing or two about who Ancient Egyptians were and what they looked like?
With all respect for all the black people and all the other ethnicities out there, but we Egyptians are special very special, we are not Black or White or Greeks or Romans or Yellow Asians or Caucasians or Europeans or Northern Africans or Arabs or even Middle Easterners.
WE ARE EGYPTIANS, WE ARE VERY UNIQUE!
Yeah there are people in America who think being born on the African continent makes you black. I guess northern Africans don’t exist then lmao.
Why am I having a problem trying to load this video, UA-cam? my internet speed is 248MPS and other videos loaded just fine?
Jada Pinkett Smith says she blames ‘white supremacists’ for the flop of her new Netflix docudrama series, Queen Cleopatra, which has one the worst audience ratings in U.S. television history. 🤣😂🤣😂😂
totally no other possible reasons...
Yeah it's weird because they show The Ten Commandments every Easter with a white Moses played by Charlton Heston, a white Nerfertiti played by Anne Baxter, and yes a Ramses played by a Russian, Yul Brynner. One of the top movies every Easter and considered a movie classic but no outrage. Is it hypocritical, racist, selective outrage? So many words come to mind.
@@moshe4787you’re racist towards Egyptians and it’s not a good look. More fake outrage🙄
@@moshe4787 In a fiction everyone does what he wants! This is a documentary here. Watch this historical film where the French king louis 15 is played by an American and his favorite by a North African Maiwen. It's a fiction and no one claims that the Louis 15 was American and Madame du Barry an Algerian!
ua-cam.com/video/6pyc9V-UJcI/v-deo.html
@@EutNehbethawetRuSat I can’t blame you, it’s cultural appropriation and historically inaccurate.
As a latin person all I can say is
Welcome Egypt to the "your country is a continent/all of you are black" club
1:56 I could really care less if it is about a fictional character they can make them look any way they want but historical figures no
Elizabeth Taylor would have passed for more of Cleopatra than Adele. As someone whom is Greek, I am not offended by Elizabeth’s role. What the supporters in this “documentary “ are doing is repulsive
I agree. Elizabeth looks more Greek than Adele.
She doesn't look like Cleopatra, but they chose a famously beautiful, sexual woman, which makes sense. I think most of the issues with Taylor's Cleopatra was the story itself, not the casting.
And some people have brought up John Wayne as Ghengis Khan ... but that was ridiculed in the 1950s, and that movie bombed because it was stupid casting.
And Elizabeth Taylor's "Cleopatra" was banned in Egypt. They don't care who plays the role..black or white. They want PROPER representation. That's FAIR .
@@elladeon Exactly. I think she could have pulled off playing the role of Cleopatra in a more or less historically accurate drama, or even a complete work of fantasy about Cleopatra. The issue isn't casting a black woman to play her, it's subsequently claiming that Cleopatra was black in order to justify their casting choice.
The only bad thing about this documentary is that they're claiming Cleopatra was historically Black. If they'd acknowledged that she was historically Greek or Macedonian while still casting a Black actress just because they thought the Black actress had the talent to portray her, y'all would still be angry because you simply prefer to see a white face over a Black face. It's just that simple. Elizabeth Taylor is neither Greek nor Macedonian, so it's just about looks to y'all and what's more visually appealing. If you'd taken issue with the actual historical revisionism being passed off as fact in this documentary instead of just the visuals, I would have more respect for that.
As an Egyptian, this series angered me a lot, and the worst thing is that it links racism to defending the facts
I think things have gotten out of hand an America and I'm an American this is absolutely ridiculous with what has happened and I'm so sorry that this happened I hope Egypt wins the case against Netflix.
Last I checked, mummy didn’t claim to be historically accurate.
Imagine a documentary about Martin Luther King played by Leonardo DiCaprio.
Excellent video. I'm black my ancestors were enslaved by the Dahomey who in the Woman King were portrayed as fighters against slavery, when in fact they were the slavers and it was the French who used military force to stop them enslaving us. That was insult enough but now they are using us to promote a message, a lie. They are using just another form of blackface. Cleopatra was Greek, white, red haired and spoke Greek. However, she was the first Cleopatra (there were 6 Cleopatras before her) who bothered to learn Egyptian. As for the possibility of her being part black was impossible as, disturbing as it is, the Royal family practiced incest in order to keep the blood pure. They knew nothing of genetics back then. Side note, regarding the Cleopatra in this mockumentary.....her first husband was her own brother...... A bit like İlhan Omar. 😉
Good points. I also think it's somewhat racist to assume that everyone in Africa is black... that's definitely not the case for Northern Africa. Africa is a diverse continent with many different cultures.
Shut up and stolen being a uncle Ruckus.
History lesson time, when Alexander the great conquered new land, he was very keen on his soldiers marrying the local women.
I don't know who ptolemy 1st wife was but I do know that for the first 77 years of the ptolemic dynasty, they never practiced incest.
good point ,thank you for sharing these .
Imagine my confusion when i read the book ”Barracoon” before seeing the movie ”The Woman King”. It was a bit perplexing. Interesting book though.
I agree Cleopatra was a Macedonian and the Egyptians were a Hamitic people so what better person to play a Hamitic, Egyptian Pharaoh is a Black woman they just chose the wrong queen
These corporations basically abuse marginalised people as a spear for marketing and a shield against legitimate criticism. Annoying as hell...
Great comment.
Kalergi-plan also ties into this. It's not a coincidence.
@@chinchilla415 As the daughter of a Jew living in germany... heard that before. And it's bullshit. Leftist ideology is no excuse to become as insane as them.
Egypt is suing Netflix for this.
11:15 yeah Bag Face knows exactly what he's talking about. I literally would not have known that the Little Mermaid was even being remade except for the fact that people on reddit were complaining about people complaining about the movie. I didn't even see or hear any of the complaints about the remake, I only saw redditors complaining about alleged "racism". Studios have really found the advertising cheat code with that one
I love the fact that numerous historians & egyptologists have called them out on their deliberate falsification of history, incl. the director of the Egyptian Antiquities Ministry, you know the people who spend years studying ancient Egyptian history, but the grandma of that old lady, told her "Cleopatra was black" and she doesn´t care.
Oh, btw. she´s supposed to be a professor that teaches "African studies" or something!
Actually that old lady is a classicist which means she in meant to be an expert on the world of ancient Rome and Greece.
@@mattm8870 No, she's not.
She teaches ''African studies'' and I doubt that she has any knowledge of Sub-Saharan history either.
Even the term "African studies" is kind of offensive. By woke logic, all Mexicans should be white/Caucasians. After all, Mexico is in North America, and North America is pretty much all white people, right? That's how it works, isn't it?
"African Studies" in universities is probably filled with so much nonsense. A lot of it is most likely just trying to push a narrative that isn't true.
Here in Argentina, after we won the World Cup, the New York Times published an article basically treating my country as racist because there's no color people in the national team no matter that we do have diversity (we are knows as the country of immigrants due to the millions and millions of people we received thru the last centuries), we are all mainly of European descent, and we have lot of Asians for example and we also have natives from our own country but no POC, and that was an issue to another country that knows nothing about mine. I perfectly understand what other countries (like Egypt) are going thru. The rest of the world is not the US, we have our own history, ethnicity, religions or lack thereof... just stop pushing your social mess to the world. We all deserve better than that.
I remember that article and still think was stupid as f. Italy cheered for you guys, I surely did! 🎉 Viva i campioni 🎉
Argentina also has Maria Resendo
Del Valle Black Argentine woman Independence. war army officer ?!.
@Angela Maddalena grazie! I have Italian citizenship (in my father's side they are all Italians, came here to escape Mussolini) and I visited Milano 10 years ago. Beautiful city and beautiful people 🇮🇹🇦🇷
@Tyman Ung doesn't ring a bell to be honest. Couldn't find it on Google either.
The vast majority of Americans aren't into the PC bullshit being pushed by the media and politicians. This is NOT a racist country like those lying assholes want everyone to believe.
" I don't care what anybody tells you, Cleopatra is black"
- Some old black lady
When Julius Caesar said "I am all the Romans" and Cleo answered "I am all the Egyptians" and kicking him inside a bottomless pit yelling "Wakanda Forevaaaaaa!!!" while twerking and finally saying "Yaasss Queen!!!" was an eye opening and truly emotional moment that made me shed a tear. This is what documentaries should be and not the lies we are fed from history books. 🤪🤪🤪
See this is what I hate. People unable to criticise black people without being racist. Grow tf up.
How is it racist? Twerking was/is very much involved in your african american culture. Wakanda aswel. So stop thinking african americans are united with all blacks, cause you are different than the beautiful people in africa. You have insecurity issues which we all understand looking back at your history. However, there are lines for everybody. Also for you. And dont tell me you aint american cause only you will react like this to this post
@Scrangle Mcjangle I'm so sad to not have the approval of Scrangle Mcjangle.
Yeaaa you took it a little too far there… I agree the show is ridiculous and history shouldn’t be tainted, but this comment is pretty embarrassing. It’s possible to criticize without being racist my friend
@@vikvondoom they're not being racist, the references were all American culture not the Black race, there are black people outside of America.
Society isn't stupid, just slow. Some people catch onto things more quickly than others, and those people tend to be the ones who are hated for calling it out. But then, ever so slowly, everyone else catches on.
Society Must Be Really Slow - Or Dumbed Down On Purpose
I love how the cry racism when they are scolded for their stupidity.
They cast mostly Mulatto Aframs as the ruling Greek elite in Alexandria. Cleopatra and her family did not have native Egyptian but Hellenic names. Hypothetically if these people were black why are they no Bantu or Igbo names?? Ironically Elizabeth Taylor is actually far more accurate as Cleopatra because she looks like a Southern European or Mediterranean woman which Cleopatra was.
There was once a (black) queen of Madagascar, her name was Ranavalona I. I'm curious if they would ever make a series about her. She killed thousands of people by the way.
A movie or show about 'Mansa Musa' would have been awesome
I honestly think Hollywood is afraid to make shows and movies about _actually_ black historical figures because an accurate portrayal of their times would show that Sub-Saharan Africa wasn't some idyllic paradise that was ruined by white devils. Almost every powerful person in the past regardless of where they lived behaved poorly by modern standards.
Let them try to do one our warrior/freedom fighter Queen Lakshmibai of Jhansi and show the truth of British Raj's torture and plunder. I DARE Netflix to try and make THAT docu.
Theres also wu zetian if we want to talk about female empresses
if you want to stay in the same time period and even want to cast the white romans as the villains (which they weren't really) then you just have to go a couple hundred miles up river from Alexandria to reach nubia where you would have perfectly fine black female leaders that you could make documenteries about, like amanitore.
There's also some tentative evidence that *could* point to Cleopatra being a ginger like myself. It's not solid, but it's more solid than the way they justify race swapping her. Basically, evidence for her being red-headed lies in couple of images that aren't confirmed but likely could be Cleopatra. These are some frescoes from Pompeii and Hurculaneum, as well as a cameo image made around her lifetime showing her with vivid red hair.
Descriptions of the Fresco from Dr. Joann Fletcher: Painted image from a villa at Herculaneum portraying a red-haired woman whose facial features, royal diadem and hairstyle adorned with fine pearl-studded hairpins suggest a posthumous portrait of Cleopatra VII.
There are many surviving likenesses of the Queen, including coinage she would have approved, Pompeiian frescoes, and Roman statues. We are fortunate she interacted so heavily with the Romans, because during this period they were big fans of creating accurate likenesses of rulers, including flaws and asymmetries. She had full lips, a strong Aquiline nose, and a small sloping forehead.
And yes, I do want to thank you for mentioning all the black washing of gingers. It's so annoying how often it happens.
I'm a redhead myself and I am all for pointing out historic redheads, but do you realize they wore wigs back then? So it could have been a wig as far as we know.
@@englishatheart Yeah, and I also said it wasn't solid, just more solid than their reasoning for black washing Cleopatra
why is it always the redheads that blackwashed? why is it never blonde or dark hair fairskins?
@@BlazingKhioneus I guess they just have a hate Boner for gingers
@@englishatheart The Egyptians also used hair dye, I believe they were the first to do so.
SPARE ME THIS MOCKERY OF JUSTICE, NETFLIX
Bright idea for Netflix: Cast an Egyptian actress
To play an Egyptian queen 🤯
13:14 I'm a white guy, and I've turned into exactly what Bag Face said about whites. Before all this crap started, I never thought about skin color when watching a movie. Axel Foley wasn't a black guy to me, he was just the main character in Beverly Hills Cop. Now all I see is skin color, and I get a knee jerk reaction when I see a black person on modern films, I automatically don't want to see it because i'm tired of virtue signalling.
And I was not like that before.
This is the goal of the globalists, divide and conquer, they want everyone to hate each other
Agreed. I watched The Patriot recently and the cheesy subplot about the slave and the racist white guy becoming best buddies was almost unbearable. They really have spoiled race relations in this country, possibly beyond repair.
Same
Yeah, pretty much that.
im not white and i agree.
Problem is that even IF Egyptians were black Cleopatra still wouldn't be, Greek Macedonian lmao.
There apparently were Nubian rulers who would have been black but by all accounts…she was not
@@billmcdermott9647 There were, for less than 100 years. But nah they have to pick a recognizable name.
@@kostasbiker9302 that’s thing as well….you could use other rulers but they also want the popularity so they go for the well known people
Their logic is she's mixed black because they don't know who her grandmother was (which automatically means she's black).