Theories in Swimbaiting: Consider it Gone

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  • Опубліковано 5 сер 2024
  • A rant with Mike Gilbert about the idea of considering your bait already gone in order to fish it effectively.
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  • @tim1309
    @tim1309 6 років тому +16

    Man, this is awesome. Really struck a chord with me, I feel like I pussy foot around with certain baits trying not to lose them causing me not to catch fish. I'm gonna keep all this in mind while fishing next time.

  • @seantobin8547
    @seantobin8547 Рік тому +1

    I was just telling my 11 year old son this today. I was slamming them today and he wasnt catching much. I told him if you wanna catch fish you gotta put your lure where the fish are at and that might mean you get hung up. Eventually he got tired of watching me catch fish and he put his bait where it needed to be and caught fish. Only got hung up once but got it back.
    Just found your videos tonight. Keep up the good work, and thanks for the info

  • @kg6qzx
    @kg6qzx 3 роки тому +2

    Looking at some old videos and found this one, this is the best advice I’ve heard in a long time. None of us want to lose our prized baits but that’s what they’re for. Clearly, ALL baits catch more fishermen than fish and I love my lures and don’t want to lose them. But my chewed up ones have such a special place...like you said...some of those do get retired. One way to solve this is to always buy two if you can and put one away. Then you always know you have at least one backup. I know...Easier said than done, especially w the super high end ones. Great video, great advice!!! I’m going to remember this, and “consider it a blessing” each time it comes back to the boat!! Perfectly said Bro!!
    Thanks!!!
    Pat

  • @bassinterceptor9634
    @bassinterceptor9634 6 років тому +3

    Gilbert, your BASS knowledge and understanding of techniques an philosophies is insane. So much knowledge, given to us.
    Thanks dude

  • @bdsimi
    @bdsimi 6 років тому +2

    Clear and to the point with no BS....Another outstanding video Mike!!

  • @michaelgruber616
    @michaelgruber616 6 років тому +1

    Understood, I've been losing a lot lately and have been gun shy with what I have left, I needed to hear this, thanks Mikey!

  • @charlieblanchard4968
    @charlieblanchard4968 6 років тому +1

    Simple thought, yet it can totally change the outlook on how you purchase and fish the baits. Great advice, thanks.

  • @redfishross
    @redfishross 6 років тому +2

    I heard something along the same lines as this from another Swim Baiter that like you said opened my eyes to catching more fish , he said treat the really expensive Swim Baits like you would a 20 $ Swim Bait. Good stuff Mike.

  • @matthewbaver9859
    @matthewbaver9859 6 років тому +1

    Your perspective is to the T as real as it gets the fish game needs that nice work sir

  • @rookiecardsandmore
    @rookiecardsandmore 6 років тому +1

    keep the vids coming brother, always good stuff!

  • @xMILKISx
    @xMILKISx 6 років тому +1

    Completely agree Mike! Came to this conclusion after losing my first Deps 250 and has completely changed my swimbait game since! I like the challenge of getting my bait back to me let alone a fish on it!

  • @creedecentko469
    @creedecentko469 6 років тому +2

    love these glimpses into your philosophy

  • @Unkownsector
    @Unkownsector 3 роки тому +1

    This is awesome . Just what I needed to hear

  • @jakehamilton9352
    @jakehamilton9352 6 років тому +1

    What an intelligent angler. Love watching these videos.

  • @bassattitude3577
    @bassattitude3577 6 років тому +3

    Now that's Bass Attitude! I scare myself and get nervous almost every cast.

  • @Afishermanstale
    @Afishermanstale 6 років тому

    Love your thoughts on this Mike👍 Gokng to think about this tomorrow morning when I am fishing on my local river👍

  • @DouglasSubbs
    @DouglasSubbs 7 місяців тому

    Very good advice. So glad i was pointed to WCZ. Very much looking forward to getting my first Citizen

  • @the_swimbaitguy8570
    @the_swimbaitguy8570 3 роки тому

    This video completely changed my swimbait game. Started making my own glides to lessen the pain. Most definitely catching alot more and bigger bass than before.

  • @adamwinterton2512
    @adamwinterton2512 11 місяців тому

    Thank you!!! New to chucking big baits, had been thinking along the same lines but wasn't comfortable with it, foul hooked a crocodile the other month with my fav deep diving hard body, thought I'd just snagged the bottom, but when I got the bib back it came from 80 feet to the left of the troll run...lure retrievers are worth there weight in gold, normally use a pole type, works well chasing Barra..thanks for the tips 👍

  • @joshknight9208
    @joshknight9208 4 роки тому

    Love everything you do👌👌👌thank god i found you,as will learn alot for targeting murry cod in my impoundment

  • @bobsmith1841
    @bobsmith1841 6 років тому +5

    Lure retrievers are a must... Carry two!!!

    • @SacredGter
      @SacredGter 6 років тому +1

      bob smith I think hes talking more about when the bass eats it and then snaps off because it was in an area that most wouldn't throw in to because of that. I've learned to worry about that after I get the bite.

    • @WorkingClassZeroFishing
      @WorkingClassZeroFishing  6 років тому +3

      Lure retrievers! Peace of mind... I think you are both making points about different things I've mentioned. Good stuff though

  • @toddpossum
    @toddpossum 6 років тому +2

    Thanks Mike👊

  • @TheCichlaKeeper
    @TheCichlaKeeper 6 років тому +1

    well said. i been rolling with that train of thought the last few years. i fish/cast where most wouldnt and 90% of the time it pays off.

  • @ryanmiranda3695
    @ryanmiranda3695 6 років тому +1

    Absolutely true. When I first started using jigs I was like that. Now I don't care I get out I get it out. I wish I had the quality of Bass to throw giant swimbaits where I live. Love your vids.

  • @Unkownsector
    @Unkownsector 3 роки тому +1

    Now I’m going to take my WCZ x DRT joyride and get uncomfortable throwing it in some sketchy spots

  • @kingofskate08
    @kingofskate08 4 роки тому

    just bought 300 bucks in glide baits and soft swimbaits today for the first time after buying 10 dollar lures my whole life thinking that was expensive haha. I like how youre preparing me for heartbreak unlike other guys with line sponsors lol "just buy ___ and youll never lose fish" great vid mike, much respect from Charlotte NC

  • @galva777tx
    @galva777tx 6 років тому +1

    Exactly....well said Mike.

  • @AddictedAngler
    @AddictedAngler 6 років тому +1

    You are 100%correct on this one...

  • @mouafishing559
    @mouafishing559 6 років тому +1

    This is the way I fish most of the time. Yes loosing an expensive bait is never easy but throwing it in the most snaggiest place is most likely gonna get you bit. Still need to put this method of fishing to my hard baits.

  • @logicalrationalfishing7481
    @logicalrationalfishing7481 6 років тому +1

    This is a very interesting way to think about lures. Seems to me I catch more fish on certain jigs and lures (that I am not scared to lose) than ones I am ultra careful with. Have caught tons on the Nichols Finesse Flippin jigs because they are only $3.5 and I guess I fish them with less worry (at least maybe subconsciously because I don't realize it with others). Same goes for cheaper cranks I am willing to fish more aggressively.

  • @garym2293
    @garym2293 6 років тому +1

    Good advice Im never afraid to lose broke 2 baitsanity trout explorers in two days bummed but thats fishing Cheers!! :))

  • @KeifersReelPlanetBass
    @KeifersReelPlanetBass 6 років тому +1

    Just ordered the muted gill ,Looks Killer man! Hope I don't lose them But I'm definitely willing to put them in the dangerZone!

  • @KeepinItReelFishing
    @KeepinItReelFishing 6 років тому +4

    Good advice Mike. No coincidence you first two baits are weedless! I learned this lesson a few years back. I had to adapt my "system" of rod power and line type to compliment fishing solely the 8" weedless Hudd instead of the exposed hook models. I found that going up one rod power, and using braid to a leader (copoly or mono), along with giving the fish a 2-count to fully swallow the lure was the formula for extremely high hookup ratios when running the truly big weedless baits. Just like you said, I too found that putting that super real looking, truly large bait, right into the thick of places was the x-factor. Also, as you state....its gotta be soft baits. Because this particular philosophy is for targeting fish in or next to serious cover, the 'drawing' power of many of the big glides is negated. These fish fall into the ambush classification vs their 'cover water and flush'em out peers' (drawing from John Hope's research in Trackin Trophies).

    • @mikewilder6121
      @mikewilder6121 6 років тому

      i belive your Carl? love your vids, love this comment

    • @steve4321able
      @steve4321able 6 років тому

      KeepinItReelFishing, your still alive! No videos, no nothing. Whats been going on?

    • @KeepinItReelFishing
      @KeepinItReelFishing 6 років тому

      Check my channel. JUST uploaded one on a cool new bait.

  • @rogervang273
    @rogervang273 6 років тому +1

    Exactly! Spot on.

  • @crunchtv3821
    @crunchtv3821 6 років тому +1

    Awesome thoughts

  • @mikewilder6121
    @mikewilder6121 6 років тому +1

    Incredible, Thanks

  • @FilipinoBMW
    @FilipinoBMW 6 років тому +1

    Preach brother!

  • @garym2293
    @garym2293 3 роки тому +1

    Still the best advice its what I use Thank You!!! Cheers!! :))

  • @reelsickfishing2227
    @reelsickfishing2227 6 років тому +1

    Great advice! I will keep this in mind for sure!

  • @lonestarswimbait9068
    @lonestarswimbait9068 6 років тому +1

    Good stuff man, enjoy this topic!

  • @swimbassin6196
    @swimbassin6196 2 роки тому

    I agree I use to be worried about loosing baits and it would kill my fishing

  • @foreignbeggar3783
    @foreignbeggar3783 4 роки тому

    this video is old as fuck, but if you and your wife are still shipping out every order yourselves, you guys are top notch. both times i’ve ordered, they literally shipped the next day.
    and they’ve helped me slay some giants, for me anyways.

  • @burntcrispycorpse
    @burntcrispycorpse 4 роки тому

    Cant find a bad shad 7.5 out here in Arizona to save my life. Hopefully they come back in stock.

  • @hpjardav598
    @hpjardav598 4 роки тому

    That's real I agree with you that's goes to all fishing from swimbaits to texas riging plastics

  • @nickcavazos5718
    @nickcavazos5718 6 років тому +5

    Good point. I realized this first with jigs. If I'm not getting hung up & losing some then why fish them bc they're not in the right place if I don't have to focus on working that bait out. After I learned that with a jig I started applying that to cranks and all other baits. I throw a glide bait in a place full of coontail and laydowns. People look at me crazy when they see what I catch fish on. Lol

    • @MakinHicks
      @MakinHicks 6 років тому

      Nick Cavazos amen. I was basically gonna make the same comment. Your gonna be more conservative with say a 100$ swimbait, but don’t be afraid to throw a jig into anything.

    • @slimetime4668
      @slimetime4668 6 років тому

      Nick Cavazos yeah same here had days where Ive snapped 5+ jigs off but most of those days I catch really quality bags

    • @henrymangabat5139
      @henrymangabat5139 2 роки тому

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  • @pelagicprincesses6123
    @pelagicprincesses6123 5 років тому +1

    Perfect Timing! Lost 4 big swimbaits over the weekend! Oh well! Just like entering a Casino! Already GONE! Thanks and keep up the great content!

  • @frybrothersfishing611
    @frybrothersfishing611 5 років тому

    Man I love swimbait theories. Would love to see this series continue.

  • @mr.m_kusicki6223
    @mr.m_kusicki6223 6 років тому +1

    Agree 100%

  • @MistaGrim
    @MistaGrim 6 років тому +1

    Glad you made a video about this particular subject. I always throw my lures into some gnarly stuff or close to it. Gotta take the risk if you want the reward!

  • @SacredGter
    @SacredGter 6 років тому

    What I've learned from doing it like this is to throw the cheapest in the areas most wouldn't. If I lose that then no biggie. But if I get a bite then the next time I know it's worth it to throw in to that area again.

  • @makcatchem9614
    @makcatchem9614 3 роки тому

    Wish I could buy some WCZ baits now adays

  • @azscout9071
    @azscout9071 6 років тому

    Awesome advice. And the truth. Sad thing is I only worry about losing your stuff. Lol. I can't replace it tomorrow when I do. That's why the citizen is my new favorite. Comes in a 3 pack. Lol. Any other soft bait recommendations? It would be appreciated if you have any. Thanks

    • @WorkingClassZeroFishing
      @WorkingClassZeroFishing  6 років тому +1

      Rago makes some really cool looking stuff with what I consider to be the best soft plastic pours. Nates Baits is also producing some rad stuff in both the 7 in and 9in sizes.

    • @azscout9071
      @azscout9071 6 років тому +1

      Working Class Zero thanks Mike

  • @TheDruxlol
    @TheDruxlol 4 роки тому

    Its worse fishing these things up north where every lake has muskys and you cant really fish them effectively with a leader :\

  • @SacredGter
    @SacredGter 6 років тому

    This has been the first thing people tell the new comers to the big swim bait world. And being that most start from the banks we already know this going into it. We can't see where we throw it. It could look clear as glass and still get hung up or lose the lure and the fish because of that. But I dont think it has helped me get anything that a guy that was more cautious about where he throws these big lures.

  • @kvmiswhoiam
    @kvmiswhoiam 6 років тому +1

    This is the first time I’ve seen your videos. I’m going to be completely honest. For some strange reason I thought Shia Labeouf was going to talk about swimbaits.

  • @riverhound9649
    @riverhound9649 5 років тому

    It's so true about not worrying about losing a bait...there's one thing to throwing a bait in a tree which is a newb move and a totally other thing to snagging a bait where you can't retrieve it...I've been afraid to lose a bait in the past and it kept me from fishing it correctly...so true dude...well said

  • @christianelias623
    @christianelias623 5 років тому +1

    Speaking gospel brother keep up the good work stay busy doing good stuff like you been

    • @christianelias623
      @christianelias623 5 років тому +1

      As a man much wiser than me once said "I don't like it, I don't agree with it, but I accept it"...
      Lando Calrissian

  • @rowenvandergriff3471
    @rowenvandergriff3471 6 років тому +2

    this is what is struggle with being 14 and not having a job to work a real job losing a bait can take me awhile to replace or get a new bait

    • @connergrant7113
      @connergrant7113 6 років тому +1

      rowenvandergriff i feel you man that 1 single hudd i have is my baby and i can deal with loosing it if it happens but id rather i dont loose it until i get a replacement

    • @WorkingClassZeroFishing
      @WorkingClassZeroFishing  6 років тому +1

      Is there a way you can work out doing chores or something with your parents to earn payment. Something in addition to what you should already be doing just to help out around the house.

    • @rowenvandergriff3471
      @rowenvandergriff3471 6 років тому

      i do stuff for neighbors and i have a few baits soft and hard just some times after i get a new bait i dont want to lose it ofcourse but i get over that fast after a few casts

    • @connergrant7113
      @connergrant7113 6 років тому

      rowenvandergriff yeah i accept ill loose it eventually

  • @alexnicholson1010
    @alexnicholson1010 4 роки тому

    I do it with soft baits but I’ll be damned if ima do it with my glides

  • @SacredGter
    @SacredGter 6 років тому

    But y would u take off the mojo bait? Mojo means that bait that's getting the job done.

  • @gunnersfishing6986
    @gunnersfishing6986 5 років тому +1

    I would die if I lost my Hinkle though! But, you are so right...

  • @adamrondeau6630
    @adamrondeau6630 6 років тому

    I'm sure this has been said and I know your busy but you need a pos cast asap

  • @chriscook1589
    @chriscook1589 6 років тому +1

    Truth

  • @jeromythomason9134
    @jeromythomason9134 6 років тому +1

    🤯

  • @mojondro
    @mojondro 6 років тому +1

    Unfortunately bro this is part of the game and if you don't want to loose a bait please don't go fishing

  • @gunnersfishing6986
    @gunnersfishing6986 5 років тому

    Lost my Hinkle today. Guess I should have kept my mouth shut.

  • @stevemcmahon4954
    @stevemcmahon4954 5 років тому

    Boring