I know right, this makes me want to put my MPCNC back together (though I think I will need to do some upgrades ie: looks like OP has larger belts, and possibly bigger steppers than I used).
Each time I watch your videos I can't help admiring your MPCNC, a great achievement indeed. Amazing that a relatively "cheap" built-from-scratch CNC meets such level of precision... left me speechless. Thank you!
@@brandonsmoot4056 Actually, I did. Cut some wood and plexi and made a clock. Then, wanting to cut aluminum, I started to add a compressed air/dust collection system but life intervened and I didn’t get back to it for months. Coincident with your comment, I just finished the new hardware last night and it seems to work. The air blows and the vacuum sucks, at least. However, to really test it I need to relearn the software because it’s been months since I touched that side of things. Hopefully, I’ll be cutting again soon (and fight the urge to rebuild the whole thing with the new primo parts).
Reminds of my first 3d printer, a prusa clone, a wooden frame of 6mm plywood. After many months of tweaking I got a single perfect print. Then it got out of alignment again and gave up. Got a corexy now of my own design and without much tweaking just prints excellent prints every time. You must've spent many days adjusting and experimenting to get it to this level, better than my ox cnc build. That has now been replaced with a much more rigid design of my own using linear rails bought from aliexpress with some reinforcements here and there, with 20mm thick aluminium tooling plates and steel tubing. Incredible results anyway you slice it!
I have tried several different end mills from aliexpress and didn't noticed any difference. Just search for "single flute carbide end mill 6mm" and go with the cheapest one.
You mentioned a Chinese brand. The flute section seems long on yours can you list the single flute bit so we can find it. thanks. I found a ton of them but hesitant as they tend to break easily. Great video!
That is good accuracy for 6mm belts and NEMA17's. I happen to have at least a dozen of older NEMA 17's I bought from ebay quite a while ago, maybe I can finally put them to use on a lowrider 2 version I'm designing. I like the concept, but I see room for immediate improvement.
An often overlooked measurement that can affect your CAM accuracy is the diameter of the bit(s) being used. If the actual diameter is different (usually smaller) than the nominal diameter, using the nominal introduces inaccuracies into your CAM.
Wow, awesome CNC mill! You have enough aluminum wool to make a sweater. 1 dislike at this point? Must be Sarah Connor wanting to stop all automated machines before they become sentient. Awesome video.
Honestly when I read the title i was no way this can be.. And now.. .that is insane.. how are you getting the rigidity to do that depth of cut? Plus hats off to your feeds and speeds.. they must be spot on.
Is there a reason everyone recommends single flute bits for the MPCNC? I haven’t had many problems with 2 or 3 flutes, so I’m just wondering if I’m missing something… This video is great btw!
I've heard other people say chip evacuation is difficult. I think it has to do with having to run at a high RPM because most of the cheap spindles don't have great torque at lower RPMs.
I read on the comments that you removed the 15mm belt on an angled iron. Right now I am confused on what I am seeing.I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A VIDEO SUMMING UP what you have made with this MPCNC.
Great results! One question though. I remember an older video where you modified your MPCNC. Those modifications don't seem to be present here. Am I missing something or did you not end up keeping them for some reason?
I published an update on thingiverse as well as on the v1engineering forum about that: The glued belt started to curl up. Instead of fixing it I took the chance and switched to a single belt. As I didn't notice any difference, except that it's easier to set the right belt tenison, I am keeping it.
Would love to understand why you don't use the dual belt system anymore on your MPCNC. I'm building my own soon and was thinking of using your mods. Why did you remove them? ( I see you kept the 15mm belt though, seems like a good idea)
I'm so sorry to ask, at 4:30 Your talking about doing a Helical cut and you say something at the end, "I'm just not able to avoid some..." Was that "Shadow" Cuts or "Shallow" Cuts? I just really want to be sure I understand what you were talking about here because The whole Helical cuts setup is still a little confusing for me. Thanks :)
Mal wieder super Video. Was hast du für ein Ausblassystem ? Suche auch was, was mich an diese Standard Schnellkuplung eines Kompressors anschließen kann. Hast du da ein Tipp für mich ? Vg
Sau cool, ehrlich dein Video hat mich dazu inspiriert, mich auch zum Bau einer MPCNC durchzuringen. 😀 Welche Maße hat denn deine MPCNC? Ich möchte meine auch lieber etwas kleiner, dafür aber verwindungssteifer und präziser bauen. Deine Abmessungen sehen mir nach einem guten Kompromiss aus.
Do the collars you have around you axis reduce slop? At 3:03 you have a closeup on one of your axis's and it has a supplemental black bit. I ask because I just cant seem to get rid of my center gantry slop
👌 Ich habe ja selber eine MPCNC gebaut mit vielen vielen Erweiterungen und Änderungen genauso ähnlich wie Deine Optimierungen. Ich hoffe es kommen noch ein paar Videoa vom Fräsen mit der Mostly. Mein Abo hast Du schon lange. Viele Grüße von Michael (vom Kanal BASTEL MICHL) 👍
for me the reason im looking at a mpcnc is I dont really have a reliable way to cut metal and id like the additional capabilities that a cnc offers for woodworking as im not artistic in anyway so using a computer and a machine to turn wood into a design is a amazing option for me
Is there anything that makes your mpcnc so capable compared to some other ones? I saw your build video but it does look like you are using your double belt system so I don't know what it is.
Hello Brauns, Ive been reading for months now about both the MPCNC and the LowRider2. I am planning on using it for Aluminium milling. Based on your experience, should i go for the MPCNC or the LowRider2?
Wenn ich es richtig gesehen habe, dann hast du die AMB FME-P 1050 Spindel in Verwendung. Macht es Sinn die paar Euro für AMB FME 1050 DI zu investieren? Die FME-P soll ja eine bis zu 3x höhere Rundlaufgenauigkeit haben, es steht aber nirgends welche Rundlaufgenauigkeit die FME 1050 DI hat Wenn du dir nochmal eine Spindel kaufen würdest, würdest du wieder die FME-P nehmen und warum?
You seem to use something beefier than the usual GT2 timing belts. Care to lose a few words about that, or a link if you described that somewhere else already? Your setup seems to be exceptionally sturdy and stable. Any special tricks you might want to share? Thanks in advance!
There are some modifications to the original MPCNC like a different foot design or 9mm GT2 belts instead of 6mm. I guess using a high quality spindle also makes a huge difference.
I never thought that MPCNC is capable of cutting aluminum with that finish and THAT precision!
You have my respect and an instant sub, sir!
I know right, this makes me want to put my MPCNC back together (though I think I will need to do some upgrades ie: looks like OP has larger belts, and possibly bigger steppers than I used).
Ok, I'm impressed .
nice Johnny bravo hair.
Thanks for providing all settings, this is one of the most helpful videos I've seen so far.
Each time I watch your videos I can't help admiring your MPCNC, a great achievement indeed. Amazing that a relatively "cheap" built-from-scratch CNC meets such level of precision... left me speechless. Thank you!
Für mich als Anfänger, habe gerade mit dem Bau der MPCNC begonnen, ist das was Du hier zeigst beeindruckend und Hilfreich. Danke dafür, Abo hast Du
Very, very impressive, and the finish is also very good. That is one amazing MPCNC.
Finally someone giving actual feeds and speeds instead of some "it all depends on several factors" bs I read all the time.
This has inspired me to stop watching videos tonight and get back to work on my 1/2 finished MPCNC.
True story
Same here. Mine is assembled and I have cut foam with it, time to move up to some wood!
Did you finish it?
@@brandonsmoot4056 Actually, I did. Cut some wood and plexi and made a clock. Then, wanting to cut aluminum, I started to add a compressed air/dust collection system but life intervened and I didn’t get back to it for months. Coincident with your comment, I just finished the new hardware last night and it seems to work. The air blows and the vacuum sucks, at least. However, to really test it I need to relearn the software because it’s been months since I touched that side of things. Hopefully, I’ll be cutting again soon (and fight the urge to rebuild the whole thing with the new primo parts).
@@modern_DIY what air blast system did you use? I'm working on mine myself
Reminds of my first 3d printer, a prusa clone, a wooden frame of 6mm plywood. After many months of tweaking I got a single perfect print. Then it got out of alignment again and gave up. Got a corexy now of my own design and without much tweaking just prints excellent prints every time.
You must've spent many days adjusting and experimenting to get it to this level, better than my ox cnc build. That has now been replaced with a much more rigid design of my own using linear rails bought from aliexpress with some reinforcements here and there, with 20mm thick aluminium tooling plates and steel tubing.
Incredible results anyway you slice it!
Awesome, the final push I needed to actually try and build one of these. Subscribed 👍
What you need now is a furnace to cast all that swarf into new parts or blanks
my god...
but how?
what?
very impressive! thank you for sharing your experience with us!
Excelent, thanks for your tips, sooner i will build my own, your information really gonna help me.
Amazing video.🔥
What spindle are you using?
Wow this cuts like butter... can't believe how easy this performs without any problem.
Cool! Excellent info. I really appreciate the specs and details!
Can you link the endmills you used? Aliexpress? I really need this ability. Excellent video!!
Also interested.
I have tried several different end mills from aliexpress and didn't noticed any difference. Just search for "single flute carbide end mill 6mm" and go with the cheapest one.
@@leonbrauns so single flute does that nice cutting and finish ? What's the feed and rpm ?
@@OperationAllOut man, just watch the video
@@AlanHerrigCreations ya got it bro, just commented early ..
Many have said it already, but very impressive. Keep the vids. coming. Very enjoyable.
id love to see you do a video on the software you designed this program on as im having a right head ache would be insightful thanks
I like the tube wipers to keep the chips out of the bearings
I very much appreciate this. Nice knowing just how far one can push the MPCNC.
Amazing result for this kind of router. Very god job there!
Thanks for sharing your awesome results!
You can also use tabs to keep your part in place at the end of your cut. Of course, it will require some manual finishing of your part...
You mentioned a Chinese brand. The flute section seems long on yours can you list the single flute bit so we can find it. thanks. I found a ton of them but hesitant as they tend to break easily. Great video!
you can also use small tabs at the bottom to keep your part attached to the rest of the stock, and cut it later
That is good accuracy for 6mm belts and NEMA17's. I happen to have at least a dozen of older NEMA 17's I bought from ebay quite a while ago, maybe I can finally put them to use on a lowrider 2 version I'm designing. I like the concept, but I see room for immediate improvement.
The real info is at 3:42. Still, it should have been in the description. Great results man. Subscribed.
how did you get rid of spindle deflection? its almost like i printed mine with ninja flex instead of PLA.
Woooooow ! Now I want to test it on my 3d printed cnc...
Same! Just finished my upgrade to Nema 23 too! :-D
FINISHING LOOKS NICE FOR SUCH KIND OF MACHINE !!!!
Did you ditch the upgrades? where is the double belt setup?
Nice! Is this real run speed? Or is it sped up?
An often overlooked measurement that can affect your CAM accuracy is the diameter of the bit(s) being used. If the actual diameter is different (usually smaller) than the nominal diameter, using the nominal introduces inaccuracies into your CAM.
That is seriously impressive!
Verdammt cool, alle Achtung! Wie schaut's denn mit der Präzision (Fertigungstoleranz) aus?
Beautiful... what spindle it is?
Where did you get the files and what spindle are you using? I’d love to be able to do this but not sure where to start
It's Amazing what you Can Do with ! Respect !! I learn many things from your vidéo !! Thank you
Wow, awesome CNC mill! You have enough aluminum wool to make a sweater. 1 dislike at this point? Must be Sarah Connor wanting to stop all automated machines before they become sentient. Awesome video.
Honestly when I read the title i was no way this can be.. And now.. .that is insane.. how are you getting the rigidity to do that depth of cut? Plus hats off to your feeds and speeds.. they must be spot on.
Awesome video, good info. The only thing I'm really curious about now is what kind of projects you're making! :)
Didn't you have videos showing angle iron upgrades on your MPCNC?
Amazing ! What are the dimensions of the CNC ?
Work area is roughly 600x300x50mm.
Is there a reason everyone recommends single flute bits for the MPCNC? I haven’t had many problems with 2 or 3 flutes, so I’m just wondering if I’m missing something… This video is great btw!
I've heard other people say chip evacuation is difficult. I think it has to do with having to run at a high RPM because most of the cheap spindles don't have great torque at lower RPMs.
Wait, this is REAL TIME??? I thought it was sped up!
I read on the comments that you removed the 15mm belt on an angled iron. Right now I am confused on what I am seeing.I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A VIDEO SUMMING UP what you have made with this MPCNC.
What tool you used sir? Very impresive
Great results! One question though. I remember an older video where you modified your MPCNC. Those modifications don't seem to be present here. Am I missing something or did you not end up keeping them for some reason?
Was curious about that too. He had the dual reverse belt setup.
I published an update on thingiverse as well as on the v1engineering forum about that: The glued belt started to curl up. Instead of fixing it I took the chance and switched to a single belt. As I didn't notice any difference, except that it's easier to set the right belt tenison, I am keeping it.
@@leonbrauns ah I see. Thanks man. Great vids btw! Keep it up!
Brauns CNC. Great work and great videos. However i can not find your posts on the V1 Engineering forums.
@@leonbrauns Hello, this looks very nice. I would like to build a cnc just like yours. Maybe can you add a link to the infos? Thank you, bye bye
I couldn’t find it mentioned in your build series, but what is the build size? Thanks!
Do you have a video on your air hose set up? If not can you please post that Info. Thanks.
thanks best vid so far on this topic!
any recommendations for cheap endmills to cut plywood?
Would love to understand why you don't use the dual belt system anymore on your MPCNC. I'm building my own soon and was thinking of using your mods. Why did you remove them? ( I see you kept the 15mm belt though, seems like a good idea)
How is this block of aluminium held in place?
What spindle do you have?
this is amazing. What spindle and end mill?
Are you using a specific grade of aluminium?
Would milling guitar necks with it give acceptable results? (1")
I'm so sorry to ask, at 4:30 Your talking about doing a Helical cut and you say something at the end, "I'm just not able to avoid some..." Was that "Shadow" Cuts or "Shallow" Cuts? I just really want to be sure I understand what you were talking about here because The whole Helical cuts setup is still a little confusing for me. Thanks :)
It’s “chatter” ;) (by the way, subtitles are available for all of my videos)
@@leonbrauns didn't even think to check the subtitles. Thanks man 🙃
Is there a project page or building details page?
Great tool btw. Congrats!
Impressive. Please what cutting tool you use?
Mal wieder super Video. Was hast du für ein Ausblassystem ? Suche auch was, was mich an diese Standard Schnellkuplung eines Kompressors anschließen kann. Hast du da ein Tipp für mich ?
Vg
wow! i was thinking that is a tormach :) :) do you have a link of the used bit???
Great work, my compliments ! How do you release the part from the waste-board, since you use double side tape.
Thanks! Either with a spatula and some force or by heating the part.
Can you do a video on how you did your set up in Fusion? I have been struggling with mine.
Could you tell us what feedrates, rpm, doc etc your using? This is really impressive
Watch the whole video ;).
What kind of "dremel" you are using in your cnc?
What your use to fixture aluminum plate in BED ?, congrats, nice jobs!
Sau cool, ehrlich dein Video hat mich dazu inspiriert, mich auch zum Bau einer MPCNC durchzuringen. 😀
Welche Maße hat denn deine MPCNC? Ich möchte meine auch lieber etwas kleiner, dafür aber verwindungssteifer und präziser bauen. Deine Abmessungen sehen mir nach einem guten Kompromiss aus.
Hi. Is that 6061 alloy?
Thanks
It's EN AW-5083.
Do the collars you have around you axis reduce slop? At 3:03 you have a closeup on one of your axis's and it has a supplemental black bit. I ask because I just cant seem to get rid of my center gantry slop
Those are wipers to keep the chips away from the bearings.
It does help that he is using a good dedicated router spindle from AMB-Elektrik.
Warum hast du dein Zahnriemensetup wieder zurückgebaut? Hat der Breite Riemen sich nicht bewährt?
Very impressive. Thanks for sharing!
Good job👍👍👍
What milling rotor did you use. Can you share the model and spec?
AMB FME 1050P
Looks great @Brauns CNC!
What kind of aluminum is that?
It's EN AW-5083.
Hallo, wo beziehst du das Material?
Any updates on the machine performance todate?
Isn't this more attributed to your Kress spindle?
The frame is probably the limiting factor. A more rigid machine could probably push that spindle much harder, but this is still very impressive.
👌 Ich habe ja selber eine MPCNC gebaut mit vielen vielen Erweiterungen und Änderungen genauso ähnlich wie Deine Optimierungen. Ich hoffe es kommen noch ein paar Videoa vom Fräsen mit der Mostly. Mein Abo hast Du schon lange.
Viele Grüße von Michael (vom Kanal BASTEL MICHL) 👍
@Brauns cnc würdest Du uns mal deine Maße XYZ / Höhe deiner MPCNC verraten ?
Etwa 600x300x60mm.
WOW!!! JUST WOW!!
That's some very good mechanical engineering.
for me the reason im looking at a mpcnc is I dont really have a reliable way to cut metal and id like the additional capabilities that a cnc offers for woodworking as im not artistic in anyway so using a computer and a machine to turn wood into a design is a amazing option for me
Are you doing conventional or climb milling?
Climb milling. I tried conventional but it creates a lot more chatter.
@@leonbrauns thank you very much for that answer. I will try that out because I have a lot of chatter even with slower settings than you
Warum nutzt du den "Double Belt" nicht mehr ?
hi what is the model of your router thanks
Is there anything that makes your mpcnc so capable compared to some other ones? I saw your build video but it does look like you are using your double belt system so I don't know what it is.
Hello Brauns, Ive been reading for months now about both the MPCNC and the LowRider2. I am planning on using it for Aluminium milling. Based on your experience, should i go for the MPCNC or the LowRider2?
I have zero experience with the LowRider so I can't give you any advice on that.
Thank you. So far the mpcnc has been the most nodded, used one.. Since I am a begginer, best thing will be to start with that..
Thanks again
beautiful chips
Formidable deco for the presentation of the Christmastree!
Wenn ich es richtig gesehen habe, dann hast du die AMB FME-P 1050 Spindel in Verwendung.
Macht es Sinn die paar Euro für AMB FME 1050 DI zu investieren?
Die FME-P soll ja eine bis zu 3x höhere Rundlaufgenauigkeit haben, es steht aber nirgends welche Rundlaufgenauigkeit die FME 1050 DI hat
Wenn du dir nochmal eine Spindel kaufen würdest, würdest du wieder die FME-P nehmen und warum?
What types of things do you make with your MPCNC?
Aus welchem Grund hast du dir Double belts wieder demontiert?
Watching it is so satisfying! :-D
You seem to use something beefier than the usual GT2 timing belts. Care to lose a few words about that, or a link if you described that somewhere else already?
Your setup seems to be exceptionally sturdy and stable. Any special tricks you might want to share? Thanks in advance!
There are some modifications to the original MPCNC like a different foot design or 9mm GT2 belts instead of 6mm. I guess using a high quality spindle also makes a huge difference.
Krass was du so raus knallst mit dem Teil! Echt beeindruckend. Sogar Tom hat ja direkt aufgegeben.
you should have listed the feeds and speeds and type of end mill