Woodland Mills vs Woodmizer sawmill comparison

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
  • HM130max and LT15wide sawmill comparison. We talk about the differences between mills, what we have found after a year running each. Ran the mills side by side all day cutting pine and black walnut logs. There will be videos on Nate's Channel of the black walnut and tons of footage of both mills @BissellMapleFarm Nate and crew are a riot, I have so much fun every time we get together. Hope you enjoy the video.
    Nates Director's cut version, lots of new footage • Woodland Mills Vs Wood...
    (it's better than my video by far!)

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  • @TheDigitalsawyer
    @TheDigitalsawyer 6 місяців тому +4

    As a 130Max owner this is quality content. No BS about the magical attributes. I couldn’t be happier with my mill but sometimes you get videos that aren’t exactly accurate. Great work

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  6 місяців тому +2

      Thanks! We aren't trying to sell anything, just giving folks information about our mills.

  • @jamesroettger3824
    @jamesroettger3824 Рік тому +5

    love the sawdust bucket catchers.

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  Рік тому

      Lol why am I not surprised?

  • @robertreisner6119
    @robertreisner6119 Рік тому +4

    My 2003 Hudson Oscar 36 handles 35+ inches wide and 25 foot lengths. Powered by a Vanguard 23 hp V Twin engine. No hydraulics and manual drive it is a great mill for me. Bought it new, restored in 2017 and ready to go again. Sawdust no problem, logs rolling in on a lifted rail system which eliminates the logs rolling on the ground. It is a fixed type not portable but many spruce and hemlock trees of 32 to 35 inches wide. I plan on constructing a saw mill shed over it to cover the infeed deck, the mill, and the trailer to haul the cut lumber to my drive thru lumber shed. Dual chain lifts with overhead tracks that can move the lumber from the trailer to any of the 16 lumber bins in this shed. All designed to be a one man operation who is a grandpa, that's me. Welcome to an old school Alaskan.

  • @kiheidude
    @kiheidude Рік тому +120

    Six months ago I called Woodmizer to see about ordering one of their sawmills. The salesman arrogantly told me the wait was at least a year. He acted like I was bothering him by even calling him. I hung up and called Woodland Mills and ordered the 130Max. It was delivered to my farm in Virginia 7 days later.

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  Рік тому +12

      There is no excuse for that, not for the attitude nor for the delivery times.. I waited a year for my mill, on the day I picked it up a guy walked in to woodmizer wanting a mill, they told him 18 months, he said how did this guy get a mill today and they said I waited. He turned to me and said I'll give you $5000 more than you paid for your mill if you sell it to me today.

    • @kiheidude
      @kiheidude Рік тому +37

      @@mcsawmill I would have pocketed the $5,000 and bought a HM130 Max. The logs don’t know the difference. 😁

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  Рік тому +3

      @@kiheidude the log I sawed into 9 4x8 in the video?

    • @geraldcroft9020
      @geraldcroft9020 Рік тому +2

      Me too. I got mine right away last fall. I finally set it up last week. Haven’t tried it yet. I am so excited to take these big oak logs I have and make lumber
      Oh by the way, Woodland Mills I’m short one nut for one of the bolts but I have five extra nuts for some other bolts. Not bad I can live with it.

    • @anooseholay
      @anooseholay Рік тому +3

      It’s too bad you had a bad experience but I’ve owned another brand of mill prior to my Woodmizer and nothing I’ve seen yet even compares.

  • @papabear746
    @papabear746 5 місяців тому

    Nice work😊

  • @dmwi1549
    @dmwi1549 10 місяців тому

    Very helpful comparison. That tip for the trailer manufacturer is excellent.
    I see Woodland now has a 136 max.
    But, the depth of cut or throat looks shallow.
    I had same experience with Woodmizer vs Woodland. Better availability and less superiority complex from Woodland.
    And comparing small mills, Woodland has the highest standard engine horsepower. The others only offer similar hp as an added cost option to make there standard prices seem more affordable.

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  10 місяців тому

      the woodland mills is a great home sawmill, the woodmizer is worth the wait. Buy what is right for you. Harbor freight has a $3k sawmill, if all you want is to cut 2x4 and 2x8 it'll do the job. We just wanted to show what to look at when deciding.

  • @donchristie420
    @donchristie420 11 місяців тому +3

    For me: hydraulic log lift, turning and moving- no manual nothing and definitely not going to walk with cutting

  • @MitchellKennedy-j8i
    @MitchellKennedy-j8i 3 місяці тому

    Will the power feed system work on the woodland?

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  3 місяці тому

      No it's a woodmizer feature but there is a power up down for the woodland

  • @richardbritton5280
    @richardbritton5280 Рік тому

    Interesting ty 👍💪👏🏆🏆👴🐕🚜😎🤠🙏🙏

  • @michaelwhiting3673
    @michaelwhiting3673 9 місяців тому +1

    You should use an impact driver instead of a drill

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  9 місяців тому

      That doesn't work, tried that first.

  • @EricMosegard
    @EricMosegard Рік тому +2

    I use a funnel instead of making a mess lol

  • @garysexton344
    @garysexton344 Рік тому +1

    Sounds like yall waisted money if the rig is already falling apart...

  • @xhefriguitars7946
    @xhefriguitars7946 Рік тому +20

    I was going to buy a Woodmizer this last Jan but they were backordered like 9 months. So i bought the Woodland Max with the woodlander trailer. Been super happy. I have the throttle set so it runs with no water unless you give it a little more squeeze and then the water flows. I really like this as i can control when i want water or not. Some wood is wet/green and does not need water. After watching this video, the Woodmizer has a few things i like, such as the controls. But the log locks being screws, well the Woodland clamp system is fast once you get the hang of them. Glad i got the Woodland. Very happy. Also, blades sure dull quickly if there is any dirt on the log. Thanks for your gracious interaction. Looked like a fun day sawing!

  • @lloydpowell1056
    @lloydpowell1056 Рік тому +14

    So glad I decided on my 130Max! WOW!

  • @TheMakersMarkTSF
    @TheMakersMarkTSF Рік тому +21

    Great video; I loved the side by side comparison of the two mills. You were simply pointing out the different characteristics of the two; not bashing either one.

  • @Solidbuildingcorp
    @Solidbuildingcorp 11 місяців тому +6

    This was fantastic boys! We’re a timber frame company and about to invest in a mill. The woodland and the mizer are the two I was looking at. Super helpful!!

  • @johnnybrace
    @johnnybrace Рік тому +5

    I have an HM126 Woodland, been using it steadily for last 2 years, very happy with it. Dealer has been excellent and helpful. 14 hp Kohler.

  • @southernadirondackoutdoors
    @southernadirondackoutdoors Рік тому +5

    Good video guys! Looks like alot of fun! For Nate/Austin...there's videos out there on puttin a drill on the up/down crank...might have been a 126 however.

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  Рік тому

      I'll make sure he knows. Thanks!

  • @MrPDGee
    @MrPDGee Рік тому +8

    Nice comparison. Thank you guys. I appreciate the comment "no matter which mill we get we push it to the max". Yep. Nature of man vs machine. No matter which side-by-side comparison you do, the contenders will have pluses and minuses. Nobody makes the "perfect mill", and if they did I couldn't afford it. For the money, the Woodland Mills is a great homeowner/homesteader sawmill that will more than satisfy. I have a 130Max and couldn't be happier. Yes, with only 7.5 above the blade (it's due to how/where they mount the engine) you do have to cut thicker boards by cutting in from both sides. But so far that hasn't been a deal breaker. I did add the power head for raising/lowering the blade. My arthritic shoulder is much happier. What I'm trying to cobble together now is a debarker that will run just in front of the blade on the entry side of the cut to improve blade life by getting rid of the bark with the dirt and grime that gets embedded in the log bark from dragging them around. In my spare time...

    • @BissellMapleFarm
      @BissellMapleFarm Рік тому +3

      I've been dreaming up something similar. I was thinking of an angle grinder with carbide inserts. And controlling depth with a guide wheel or a disc that is slightly smaller diameter thank the cutting wheel.

    • @hpw59
      @hpw59 Рік тому +2

      Great❤video ...anymore info on the rpm gauge? I also have the hm130max

    • @BissellMapleFarm
      @BissellMapleFarm Рік тому +2

      @hpw59 Absolutely! We have a few more videos to make, and we can absolutely show how we did this.

    • @Royal-xh8db
      @Royal-xh8db 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@BissellMapleFarmthere are several on the market, you could copy one of the existing ones but your idea sounds pretty close. Use spring tension on it so that it will follow the contour of the log. I ran an LT30 for about two years, all sizes and lengths from six feet to 18 ft. When I got up to like 10 ft long and probably 12 in I could average a thousand board feet an hour working by myself. That was a fully automated wood-mizer. Also I never used water.

    • @BissellMapleFarm
      @BissellMapleFarm 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Royal-xh8dbgood stuff.

  • @DaleBircket
    @DaleBircket 11 місяців тому +2

    I use a scissor jack for a toeboard sitting on a piece of metal the width of the mill. Nothing is bolted so can put anywhere depending on length of log. Only have $25 invested in toeboard and with jack down, sits below the bunks.

  • @SpencerLawnCare
    @SpencerLawnCare Рік тому +3

    That was cool to watch! Great job fellas.

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  Рік тому +1

      Thanks Shawn, Nate's is fun to UA-cam with.

  • @brianwestveer9532
    @brianwestveer9532 Рік тому +9

    Woodland Mills dose have a power up and down kit to add on

    • @billrichardsjr
      @billrichardsjr Рік тому +2

      Bought it. Pricey but well worth it. Saved my shoulder.

    • @BissellMapleFarm
      @BissellMapleFarm Рік тому +1

      I'd like to add one. Isn't it like $900?

    • @billrichardsjr
      @billrichardsjr Рік тому +2

      @@BissellMapleFarm Yes it is.

    • @robh1789
      @robh1789 4 місяці тому

      @@billrichardsjr It's currently $549 CAD (May 2024)

    • @51sicboy
      @51sicboy 3 місяці тому

      @@BissellMapleFarm Got mine for $550 and totally worth it.

  • @andysmith8544
    @andysmith8544 Рік тому +6

    Great firsthand insight on these mills, nice job guys.

  • @sethwarner2540
    @sethwarner2540 Рік тому +2

    Dang! Time for a funnel! So, the second cut is 3/4" to make stickers? Great comparison! So, you can cut quarter-sawn lumber? Seems, with this grade of saw mill, NO!!

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  Рік тому

      Yes outer cuts are for stickers. I don't quarter saw pine lol

  • @delmanicke9228
    @delmanicke9228 Рік тому +5

    Good comparison, I have 126 woodland. The 126 makes me keep the log size down, which is ok with me. I'm a one horse operation, I use the tractor if I have to. 👍 a lazer would be nice and electric start, and being able to raise one end of the log conveniently, these are the 3 things I've wished for. 👍

    • @Grunt49
      @Grunt49 Рік тому +1

      Check Sawing with Sandy.He added lasers.

    • @bryansaunter4124
      @bryansaunter4124 8 місяців тому

      Woodlands have toe boards, I have lifted 28 in 16 foot log. With 12 volt driver. It sits in the rails easy to move an use. On my hm130 max

    • @bryansaunter4124
      @bryansaunter4124 8 місяців тому +1

      Watching them turn the log was painful. I installed a hand crank boat winch. Used to load and turn big logs one person.

  • @countryflyer4536
    @countryflyer4536 Рік тому +3

    I had a timberking 1220 and we built our own trailer, we could saw 20' and used mobility scoter motors for feed and up and down with pulse modulating to control the speed. It worked perfect. you just have to use 24 volts and have to charge the battery's at the end of day as your motor only puts out 12 volts. i got the idea from another youtuber....

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  Рік тому

      @tcsawmills has a nice timberking mill but you'll have to go back a ways to find a video where he uses it.

  • @galendirks5269
    @galendirks5269 Рік тому +2

    I have a wood mixer Lt15 wide with a 10 hp electric motor. I have put about a 1000 hrs on it and it has worked pretty good. I put an amp gage on the motor because I couldn't tell how hard I was working the motor and kept stalling it. Put a electric solenoid valve with a switch on the control panel for the water. I don't like the log clamps because when you are sawing a square cant and the clamps is laying down it doesn't hold and the cant can roll over when sawing. The cross bunks are thick enough steel but the main frame is not as thick and is too light to handle the weight of big logs. I like the way the woodland log clamps work and that they slide up and down. I am going to check out the thicker blades because for cutting wide slabs the 45 blade is to thin. I have owned a Lt30, a Lt50, and now this Lt15 and have liked Woodmere pretty well.

  • @Dede-dw4oj
    @Dede-dw4oj 10 місяців тому +1

    Thise welds should be fulld welds thats why stuff is letting go… to bad they spend a bit more time welding at the price these guys are oaying these machines it’s actually pretty sad to work hard like that and then getting jewd so the owner can make 200$ more per mill…. Quality control should not pass this… if the piece is 3 inch long well the ful 3 in should be welded not 1/2 in at both ends with a tac in the middle

  • @chrissheathewoodguy
    @chrissheathewoodguy 5 місяців тому

    even our woodmizer lt40 won't cut over 23.5. they claim 24 inchs. now way do to some bolts in the way.

    • @acossaw
      @acossaw 4 місяці тому

      Might want to check your manual about your blade guide assembly . My 89 lt 30 will cut 28" ,my 97 lt 40 cuts 28", and my 2012 lt 35 will only cut 26.5 wide.

  • @gradycaldwell8912
    @gradycaldwell8912 Рік тому +2

    If you turn your c channel over you could put jack what every way you won't

    • @BissellMapleFarm
      @BissellMapleFarm Рік тому

      True! But it does keep everything in the channel so we don't lose it.
      I wonder if we'll have enough clearance. I'll have to look at that.

  • @arnegerhardsen3755
    @arnegerhardsen3755 11 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for your show. I'm impressed, and It's of course more difficult to get the band saw blade to cut straight without vibrations with narrow saw bands in big twisty logs with such large twigs as in the big log on the orange mill, so that's not the skilled sawmasters fault. I think both saw mills would work well for people that want to use their own timber in a better way and make wood materials for own use, and if possible do some extra for others with the same needs. In addition it's pleasant work😊. And as you know the 4-6" wide band saw blades which are more accurate and can handle big twigs better are normally used on large commercial saw mills.Thanks for the video.

  • @CalebForMN_MNMillling
    @CalebForMN_MNMillling Рік тому +2

    Cool video. I use a Norwood HD38 and I love it. Might have to run a comparison video myself for my channel.

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  Рік тому +1

      I'd like to see a Norwood compared like we did, cut width, space above blade, hp, steel thickness, water system, etc.

  • @mooseguyable
    @mooseguyable 5 місяців тому +6

    Woke up this morning with a plan in my mind,
    Gonna mill my own lumber, gonna work that grind.
    Got my chainsaw roaring, and my mill set up right,
    Turning logs into lumber, by the morning light.
    Milling my own lumber, it's a labor of love,
    From the forest to the workshop, it's like hand in glove.
    Every cut and every plank, tells a story so true,
    Milling my own lumber, it's what I love to do.

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  5 місяців тому +3

      Awesome!

    • @dennisbeam199
      @dennisbeam199 2 місяці тому

      How much do you charge per board foot to saw lumber

    • @mooseguyable
      @mooseguyable 2 місяці тому

      @@dennisbeam199 $12 per hour 20 hours per week. His time total is about $70 per hour.
      $1400 in 20 hours

  • @MrJoRobb
    @MrJoRobb 6 місяців тому +2

    Great review and comparison video! This along with the availability of equipment helped us make our decision to get a sawmill. We ended up going with the Wood-Mizer LT15 standard sawmill with a 19hp Kohler. With the added bonus of starting a UA-cam channel at the same time has made this an absolute blast so far.

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  6 місяців тому

      Oh cool, I'll check out your channel!

    • @MrJoRobb
      @MrJoRobb 6 місяців тому

      @@mcsawmill We appreciate any advice you can give. Humility is a strong suit if you want to improve!

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  6 місяців тому

      After you hit 1k subs, shorts hurt your channel. You want people who watch yt on a TV because they are the ones who watch 20min videos. Second don't listen to what anyone else says, including me lol... Do it your way and have fun doing it.

    • @MrJoRobb
      @MrJoRobb 6 місяців тому

      @@mcsawmill Very sound advice! I appreciate it a ton.

  • @Grandpa82547
    @Grandpa82547 Рік тому +3

    If you were running a production operation for profit, I can see the need for a $45,000 mill.

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  Рік тому +1

      Definitely, even multiple machines if they pay for themselves.

    • @danietkissenle
      @danietkissenle 2 місяці тому

      If you want to go for production profit id try to go for an old circle saw mill with a proper set works

  • @kenashton32
    @kenashton32 Рік тому +3

    Excellent review of both mills guys!!! Thank you!!!!!

  • @heyseuss2201
    @heyseuss2201 Рік тому +3

    Nice vid. The lesson I'm learning is I can 1) shell out the extra bucks for hydraulics and automation or 2) keep a couple teenage boys around. I've looked into the cost of feeding them - I think the hydraulics will be a lot cheaper.

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  Рік тому +1

      Hydraulics are worth the money, so is the wide feature.

    • @Royal-xh8db
      @Royal-xh8db 9 місяців тому

      ​@@mcsawmilla wood-mizer with a log loader and hydraulics is an impressive machine. Working by myself I could put out 5000 ft in 6 hours making 4 x 6 cants, plus about a thousand feet of lumber.

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  9 місяців тому

      @@Royal-xh8db one of the things we didn't mention is these are portable, so these mills are made smaller and lighter than fixed mills. You pay extra for portable so if you don't need it look at the fixed mills, many are bigger and faster.

    • @Royal-xh8db
      @Royal-xh8db 7 місяців тому

      ​@@mcsawmillthe one I was running started Life as a portable, it was then set up inside a building.

  • @mastermind7864
    @mastermind7864 10 місяців тому +1

    If a fella can't figure out how to pour water, I'm not interested in hearing his opinion about anything.

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  10 місяців тому

      Lol.. Nate and Austin are really good guys, dont judge too quickly.

  • @dougjones9493
    @dougjones9493 8 місяців тому +1

    They make a thing to assist pouring fluids I think it's called a funnel 😂😂

  • @jacksimmons60
    @jacksimmons60 2 місяці тому

    That log ain't over 20 years old look at the rings that lumber will walk off barrel hoops in a day or so not fit for lumber maybe if you cut it in 6x6s I bet the rings are 3/8 of and inch a part

  • @glennwilck5459
    @glennwilck5459 Рік тому +3

    Watching you guys with the toe boards I would say use a long lever seems like it'd be quicker and easier... I work by myself quite a bit with huge logs in a manual lt15wide and I made an 8' peavy that is my best friend.

    • @loghog4392
      @loghog4392 10 місяців тому +1

      Same mill here. My toe board is a Hi-Lift jack. My big log rotator is a Hi-Lift jack. My 12" x 12" beam mover is a Hi-Lift jack. I too work alone. Well, me and my Hi-Lift jack. LOL Oh, and I'm 65 years old.

    • @ryanfair9354
      @ryanfair9354 8 місяців тому

      @@loghog4392 I just bought a 15 wide after having a 130 max. I’m curious how you put the jack in for the Woodmizer to lift the log and rotate it. Can you tell me more about how you’re using the jack?

  • @cancelchannel3394
    @cancelchannel3394 8 місяців тому +1

    I guess if they solved all your issues, then you would want them to mill the lumber for you "/ quit complaining and learn to get the work done with what you're working with "/

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  8 місяців тому

      Hey, it's not like we bought hydraulic mills lol...

  • @hpw59
    @hpw59 Рік тому +2

    The Woodland Mills toe board that they offer is pretty nice

  • @andrewslagle1974
    @andrewslagle1974 Рік тому +3

    Great video .Get the rear tires on the tractor loaded with liquid ballast it will make a big difference !

    • @BissellMapleFarm
      @BissellMapleFarm Рік тому

      They are loaded with Beet Juice. It makes a HUGE difference.

    • @hpw59
      @hpw59 Рік тому +1

      Watching your video now.....on that corded drill, put it on 1 and it'll have more torque

  • @jacksimmons60
    @jacksimmons60 2 місяці тому

    Old field pines ain't fit for lumber and I would go crazy watching them work they work so slow

  • @johngilbert572
    @johngilbert572 Рік тому +2

    When filling up... a funnel is very helpful, they have been around for decades.

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  Рік тому +1

      I think that's a great idea, even better would be to use one of those long tube things that attach to the water spigot...

  • @thomaslindroos1667
    @thomaslindroos1667 Рік тому +1

    Toeboard? You mean wedges! We have the norwood mill and it was a little finniky in the beginning but now when everything is set up it works well. And some toe oard mod will have to be made at some point. And hey make some T shaped measuring devices to find the centers of the log so you dont have to mess with the measuring tape

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  Рік тому

      Tees? Tees? We don't need no stinking tees! Lol...

  • @thebradleysoncatbirdhill6849
    @thebradleysoncatbirdhill6849 Рік тому +1

    Great video!!!! I just started featuring my Woodland Mills HM 130 Max on my channel as well. I love it. I really appreciate how you all seem to have a really great time making this video. The comraderie is outstanding! I just subbed your channel.👍

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  Рік тому

      Nate's video of the comparison and the black walnut footage should be out soon. I'll check out your channel.

  • @davidadamson3664
    @davidadamson3664 25 днів тому

    There's this thing called a funnel, makes it easier to pour fluid into a tank fill hole without spilling it..

  • @Ramdodge582
    @Ramdodge582 Рік тому +2

    17 then, 20k now compared to 8k

    • @BissellMapleFarm
      @BissellMapleFarm Рік тому

      Are they really $20,000 for an LT15 Wide with Go package?

  • @ZurdiAnirmawan
    @ZurdiAnirmawan 5 днів тому

    Remarkable! I learned something new and interesting. The way you handle those massive logs is impressive. The video quality is top-notch. Looking forward to your next upload. Keep producing such great content!

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  5 днів тому

      @@ZurdiAnirmawan thanks, folks like you motivate me to make more videos!

  • @qlogic2002
    @qlogic2002 Рік тому +2

    This like watching "Sawing with Sandy" vs "Fall line Ridge". Fantastic video and comparison, thank you!

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  Рік тому

      Wow, Thank you, I watch both those channels and to me that's an awesome compliment.

    • @BissellMapleFarm
      @BissellMapleFarm Рік тому

      Wow! That's an honor! Two great channels that we watch!

  • @MatWalter-q3h
    @MatWalter-q3h 28 днів тому

    This is a 1 % of the time video. Why you bothered to show what never happens is beyond me/ Had you put a 14" butt log on there and did the same thing the comparison would have meant something. All you showed was no matter what they say the mill will cut 20% smaller is all that is practical. An engine and blade cut every log. I man moves them.
    Oh and that Woodmizer is clearly over priced if the green one was near 1/2 the price of the W.M. I will admit the cost comparison was appreciated.

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  28 днів тому

      @@MatWalter-q3h not everyone has perfect saw logs, we saw what we have. Everyone who doesn't have a woodmizer says they are overpriced. But you won't find a woodmizer owner who wishes he bought a different brand.

  • @charleswilliams5729
    @charleswilliams5729 7 місяців тому +1

    I use a farm jack like they use off road with a spike on the lift to roll the logs on my home made sawmill

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  7 місяців тому

      That's a good idea.im making a cable with a hook on the end for skid steer forks.

  • @brisbanekilarny6212
    @brisbanekilarny6212 Рік тому +2

    Need to get a welder and put some extra metal on the bed to handle the heavy logs.

    • @BissellMapleFarm
      @BissellMapleFarm Рік тому

      That's probably true.

    • @danietkissenle
      @danietkissenle 2 місяці тому

      Get some 20' angle and make a proper ground track for that woodland andyou have a proper beast right there

  • @slimhuckleberry5884
    @slimhuckleberry5884 9 місяців тому +1

    Welcome welcome every day and see how many motors you replace

  • @adadventuresontimbermounta6764

    On (A&D Adventure on Timber Mountain) , i have the hd130max from woodland mills
    great machine ,small motor for the size of cut but motors along just fine ,and i like the feel of the cut as pushing
    the only thing that i wood have liked on the woodland mills is the bunk raise
    great comparison !!!

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  Рік тому +1

      Are you cutting all the lumber for that cabin build? I just subbed, I want to watch that, good videos!

    • @adadventuresontimbermounta6764
      @adadventuresontimbermounta6764 Рік тому

      @@mcsawmill yes we are cutting all our lumber for our build ,but we have to send out the planks to get dried and planed, this will be a new project on our video program , meaning will be planing to build our own wood kiln.cheers Anne and Dean

  • @user-yc9bv9sl8k
    @user-yc9bv9sl8k Рік тому +1

    The cameraman is not only smart ass he might as well be a girl

  • @LloydMorgan-l8w
    @LloydMorgan-l8w Місяць тому

    I wish I saw the rest of the log cut up by the woodland sawmill

  • @beepbeepbeepgo2122
    @beepbeepbeepgo2122 Рік тому +1

    The Wood-Mizer sets up in 2 mins doesn’t need to be level no comparison

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  Рік тому +1

      Not a chance, not even on a flat concrete slab could you unhook it from the tow hitch and set it up that fast. Heck it takes me longer than 2 min just to get the water jug from the truck and hook that up.

  • @slimhuckleberry5884
    @slimhuckleberry5884 9 місяців тому +1

    Come back in 5 years and show me those sawmills

  • @TwoGuysTimberframing
    @TwoGuysTimberframing 2 місяці тому

    Nice comparison guys! We run a Woodland Mills 130 max also. We almost bought a Mizer but there was almost a two year wait. Not good sales service. I am extremely happy we got our Woodland Mills instead. The 7” throat at first I thought it would be an issue. We just learned to cut down to our 8x8 like you are cutting bigger like an 8x12. Found that the amount of time you actually need to cut 8” is so rare that it makes no difference. Thanks Guys! 🤠👍

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  2 місяці тому

      @@TwoGuysTimberframing there are things I like about each.

  • @royramey5659
    @royramey5659 6 місяців тому

    I love mw Woodmizer wide and have had it for years and cut thousands of board feet of high quality lumber. I also have cut lots of slabs for furniture , tables , bars ect.. We sell 98% of our lumber. Because of shortage of steel and covid there ended up being a 1 year back log .Here in the western states we have lots of big logs our Woodmizer sells people here in Northern Ca are very polite and professional . I've been a very satisfied costumer.

  • @simon__aslund
    @simon__aslund Рік тому +2

    Nice comparison! 😃👏👏

  • @canadianjester6118
    @canadianjester6118 Рік тому

    176" blade on the LT15W.
    If they sold you .042 they did you a disservice..045 or .055 only way to go, thinner blade for more sharpenings, thicker for less chance of deflection, but you haven't be good with 2, maybe 3 sharpenings before they snap.

  • @sawdust3537
    @sawdust3537 Рік тому +1

    I own a 2006 woodmizer LT15 gas. I’ve milled aprox 3 of those stacks shown at beginning of video (combined), hard and soft wood.
    I don’t have the stainless steel bung covers but only now wish I had them, it will protect the mill structure and maintain accuracy.
    Since I bought the mill in 2006, I’ve only had to call for more blades, and I think Woodmizer is “Made in America”, so….. 🇺🇸!
    No disrespect to the other mill🙏

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  Рік тому

      I have friends with old sawmills, all them are woodmizer. That's why I spent the extra money. Bunk covers make it easier to roll the logs too, they're slippery.

    • @robcarter2891
      @robcarter2891 9 місяців тому +1

      Made in Poland

    • @Jesusistheonlyway549
      @Jesusistheonlyway549 5 місяців тому

      @@robcarter2891 the US models are made in the US. The European models are made in Poland.

  • @tomcogger2132
    @tomcogger2132 Рік тому +1

    Very interesting comparison. I have an HM130 Woodland Mills band saw, 2016 vintage. My son and I share the mill and move the saw head between our farms. I built a very heavy duty deck for the saw and can saw 22 ft. logs. My son has the deck that came with the mill and can saw up to 16 ft. logs. We both saw A LOT of lumber and have not had any serious problems with it. The only real maintenabce was replacing the clutch this spring. A bit of a job. I had to cut it off with a torch since it was siezed to the drive shaft. I tried using a puller but there is not much purchase on the clutch. I used thread ease on the shaft before I installed the new clutch. If I need to replace it I think a puller would work since there may be enough to grip puller jaws on and apply some pulling force. I am in the process of mechanizing my mill. I have log dogs powered by a DC actuator and have almost completed installation of a DC hydraulic log dog. Still figuring out how to install the DC hydraulic log turner.
    I really enjoyed your honest evaluation by some guys that have obviously milled plenty of lumber.

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  Рік тому

      I would love to see your dc log turner! thanks for the comment!

    • @BissellMapleFarm
      @BissellMapleFarm Рік тому

      This was some good info. I'm pretty sure you've milled more than I have!!

  • @IonmilianDorofteiu-d9z
    @IonmilianDorofteiu-d9z 10 місяців тому +1

    Cât costă un asemenea utilaj

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  10 місяців тому

      Green $5000, Orange $9000 without wheels

  • @geraldcroft9020
    @geraldcroft9020 Рік тому +1

    All those look like wood Mizer thumbs up

  • @jammiedenley8721
    @jammiedenley8721 Рік тому +1

    Would like to see same log size and new blades on both for a real comparison

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  Рік тому

      for cutting speed? The woodmizer would win, it's got double the horsepower, that's why production mills have great big engines. Doesn't even matter if it's a band mill or a circle mill, horsepower = speed.

  • @johnbisset5395
    @johnbisset5395 Рік тому +3

    A little less jaw jackin and a little more work will get the job done. Talk to much...😂

  • @wilmamcdermott3065
    @wilmamcdermott3065 Рік тому +1

    I have a 26 inch range road mill wishing i had bought a Woodland

  • @Terry-z2j7l
    @Terry-z2j7l 10 місяців тому +1

    Four men and 15 minutes to turn a log. There goes a most of your profit. Automated log turner would pay for itself in less than 6 months.

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  10 місяців тому

      Show me a log turner on a portable mill that can roll a 36" dia x 16ft log.

    • @Terry-z2j7l
      @Terry-z2j7l 10 місяців тому +1

      You can add an overhead slide about crane with a hanging push button control. Add a dog hook to the hoist chain, you can add removable stops on the home side of the deck to keep the log from rolling off deck. Wrap chain and lift with crane. I am just trying to help and hope this doesn’t anger you.@@mcsawmill

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  10 місяців тому +1

      @@Terry-z2j7l adding dogs is a cool idea! I like that.

  • @jeffholm9086
    @jeffholm9086 Рік тому +2

    Bought my HM130 Max over a month ago. Called and ordered it and picked it up at the warehouse in Portland a week later. I bought 2 extensions so I can mill 20' lumber. Very happy with the mill so far. However, there are a few tricks I'll need to learn about milling flat and keeping the cant square. Time is the best teacher and I've got plenty of that. So glad I didn't spend over twice as much on the LT15 wide, and then wait forever to get it.

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  Рік тому +1

      I think if you talk to anyone who has run both they will tell you the price difference is justified. The wait is the killer..

    • @sherimatukonis6016
      @sherimatukonis6016 11 місяців тому

      What's the price tag on these?

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  11 місяців тому

      @@sherimatukonis6016 as they sit in the video, Green one was $7K and orange one was $16k

    • @sherimatukonis6016
      @sherimatukonis6016 11 місяців тому

      @@mcsawmill seems like the $7k is comparable and half the cost. Unless I missed something.

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  11 місяців тому +1

      @@sherimatukonis6016 harbor freight has a $3k sawmill, it's comparable too...

  • @danietkissenle
    @danietkissenle 2 місяці тому

    I own a woodland 130 mill, one of the big problems ive had is the track sections were bent slightly from the factory, the other is the siding attachment is a pain to deal with if you not using it so dont bother with it if you dont need it

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  2 місяці тому

      @@danietkissenle bent rails, did they replace them?

    • @danietkissenle
      @danietkissenle 2 місяці тому

      @@mcsawmill nope

  • @dmwi1549
    @dmwi1549 10 місяців тому

    I’ve seen others add a OEM style car scissors Jack for a tow board. Same kind used t charge spare tire. Manual or drill operated.

  • @jerrytalley802
    @jerrytalley802 7 місяців тому

    A small scissor Jack with a long handle would work well to Jack up logs. Excellent video, thanks

  • @magnuscircle
    @magnuscircle 2 місяці тому

    Thank you to all of you lumber dudes. Very informative and entertaining. Saw you soon!

  • @shelbyadams9955
    @shelbyadams9955 2 місяці тому

    What is the value of what your crew cut in one day verse there average wage of 15-20 $ an hour and expenses to operate

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  2 місяці тому

      @@shelbyadams9955these are homeowner mills not production mills. If you want to make money you have to get a hydraulic mill. That said, live edge slabs can sell for anywhere from $75 to $1500 each once dry.

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  2 місяці тому

      @@shelbyadams9955these are homeowner mills not production mills. If you want to make money you have to get a hydraulic mill. That said, live edge slabs can sell for anywhere from $75 to $1500 each once dry.

  • @googleboy7
    @googleboy7 Рік тому

    If you buy a $15 clip-on guitar tuner it will "listen" to the engine and you can translate the key to rpm.

  • @russelldelamotte6255
    @russelldelamotte6255 11 місяців тому

    In depth walk around of the GT26 Australian designed portable sawmill ,this one better to watch

  • @barrypurves4524
    @barrypurves4524 10 місяців тому

    73 Deaf as a post from machinery, happy to see everyone wearing proper PPE's Great non competition!

  • @sergeystrizheus3368
    @sergeystrizheus3368 Рік тому +1

    I have woodmill 126 and it's garbage let me tell you that. Yours is 50 h.and it's falling a part.

    • @BissellMapleFarm
      @BissellMapleFarm Рік тому

      Austin is a beast. He doesn't mess around - he gets work done! I would blame our learning curve and our desire to push the limits on our sawmill constantly - more than the construction. We put that mill through its paces! I would buy it again.

    • @snickersberet4792
      @snickersberet4792 Рік тому +1

      Why is it garbage? You are the only negative I've heard about the woodland mills 126 14hp. I have a 126 14 hp and so far it's been fine. Slung a blade or two until I figured it out and just look her over and make some lumber. It's no baker mill but it didn't cost 40thousand either.

    • @BissellMapleFarm
      @BissellMapleFarm Рік тому +2

      @@snickersberet4792 preach.

  • @alanlyons1195
    @alanlyons1195 Рік тому +1

    Great comparison! Thank you.

  • @beepbeepbeepgo2122
    @beepbeepbeepgo2122 Рік тому

    I think in comparison with mills need proper specs need to be researched the 172 is 176 and 16’ is 17’8” the $32 is for bigger blades his shocks the gas leak out was actually a vendor problem .

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  Рік тому

      everything you said is right. I realized the 172 thing after I published the video so... The length of the woodland mills was extended with a bed extension, we didn't mention that either. Sorry.

  • @matthewjohnson363
    @matthewjohnson363 Рік тому +1

    this is the shootout i wanted. thanks guys.

  • @fricknjeep
    @fricknjeep 6 місяців тому

    hi there interesting show john

  • @jamesa5720
    @jamesa5720 5 місяців тому

    The LT15-Wide is approaching three times the cost and isn't three times better or two times better, if better at all. Power to Woodland Mills for keeping the cost down.

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  5 місяців тому

      LT15wide is $12,700, HM136max is $8000

  • @jacksimmons60
    @jacksimmons60 2 місяці тому

    Them little band mills are so slow I built a circle mill years ago took two belsaw mills put the carriage on hdy that run the dogs manual 54 inch inserted teeth blade 671 Detroit power I could cut that log up in less that ten minutes

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  2 місяці тому

      Circle mills are definitely faster. They are also much harder to take over to your buddies house so you can compare sawmills.

    • @jacksimmons60
      @jacksimmons60 2 місяці тому

      @mcsawmill and why would I want to? Because if I had a circle saw mill my buddy would want to see it and his friend would want to see it and his friend and on and on and if you ever had one it would make you tired to look at a little band mill my son has a small band mill if you cut very much you will have to change the blades alot ran mine for years changed the inserted teeth once lol

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  2 місяці тому

      @@jacksimmons60 you may as understand, I love circle mills but different needs different saws.

    • @jacksimmons60
      @jacksimmons60 2 місяці тому

      @mcsawmill I was commenting on the text you sent about your friend would want to see it

  • @inspectr1949
    @inspectr1949 Рік тому

    Having an impressive Timbering 1220 mill owner for over 10 years to compare, the Woodland HM 130 max is the best saw for the money but I'll leave it at that, however, the 14HP motor is undersized my advice is to go bigger if its an option.

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  Рік тому +1

      You got it right, for the money it's an awesome saw. Probably should not have compared it to the LT15, it's competition is the EZ boardwalk 40, Hudson, etc. But we just showed the differences.

  • @426superbee4
    @426superbee4 Рік тому +1

    Lets cut some logs

  • @TheJkstylin
    @TheJkstylin 6 місяців тому

    great vid helped my decision to buy woodlands thanks guys

  • @garysexton344
    @garysexton344 Рік тому +1

    I mean I can hand slit logs faster...

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  Рік тому

      It's not about speed it's about having fun.

  • @russellbenton444
    @russellbenton444 10 місяців тому

    Ive had a timberking 1220 for 15 yrs. I use the timberwolf blades in .045, 10 degree for sinker cypress logs. They are great cutting blades. Send all my dull blades to Cooks for resharpening. Keep up the good work.

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  10 місяців тому

      I have carbide blades on order, will be another month before they come in but I plan to try them because they are supposed to be much nicer cutting really wide cuts. I'll make a video on it once I get them.

  • @sherimatukonis6016
    @sherimatukonis6016 11 місяців тому

    These are only 5k? I was expecting 15k or something. Make 1 or 2 good quality tables and it pays for itself.

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  11 місяців тому

      The green one is 5K without the trailer, the woodmizer is a little over 15k. You could easily spend $40k on a sawmill and make it back the first year selling lumber.

  • @user-yc9bv9sl8k
    @user-yc9bv9sl8k Рік тому +1

    The cameraman's a smartass

  • @sirwallygator565
    @sirwallygator565 Рік тому

    EZ Boardwalk 40 is way better then both these saws and for $1200 you can put WoodMizer power feed on any saw

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  Рік тому

      That what Adam from Hometown Acres has isn't it, they are blue? Seems to cut pretty well but I've never seen on in person.

  • @scor440
    @scor440 5 місяців тому

    That China mill cuts way smoother

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  5 місяців тому

      The big vertical one?

  • @marcsimard2723
    @marcsimard2723 Рік тому +1

    Ancient aliens used funnel technology

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  Рік тому +1

      Austin has an NIH complex lol..

  • @stevencarlson5029
    @stevencarlson5029 9 місяців тому +1

    You fellas ever hear of a funnel?

    • @mcsawmill
      @mcsawmill  9 місяців тому

      I heard of funnel cake, is it like that? Lol...