Can we all have a moment of silence for Ben Tramer, who somehow managed to overcome debilitating arm mobility issues to become the star quarterback for Haddonfield High's football team?
@@fynnthefox9078 He'll come to Laurie's aid at the very end of Halloween Ends. She'll be too scared to face him so she ends up getting killed by Michael. THE END.
The way Dr Wolfula talks about Ben Tramer makes it sound like he and Ben were destined to be married, or that he secretly stalked Ben like Michael did Laurie.
Mine as well, i Rember watching H 2 when I was 6 and after that I always watched the original and part 2 back to back. In my opinion it's m7ch better then H 2018.
* Thank you. I couldn't believe my eyes for a second there. I was thinking "Wait a minute....someone else actually likes the original Halloween II?" I had gotten so used to people shitting all over this movie(including John Carpenter himself). I never understood what the huge problem was. It was only meant to be a scary Halloween horror film, that was supposed to keep you in suspense, give you an occasional jump scare, and every now and again throw you a Scooby Snack about Michael's origin, like a clue as to why Michael is doing all of this and what caused it. It kind of generated audience participation, and even encouraged us to do some research into Celtic folklore, etc.(For instance: When Dr. Loomis refers to "The Lord of the Dead", he is presumably referring to "Muck Olla", the original "Boogyman", and "Muck Olla" might even be the demon that possesses Michael's spirit.......who knows). It's that kind of stuff that intrigues certain audience members who know that they got that stuff straight out of actual Celtic lore, and Irish folklore, and that's what might make an audience member start wondering "Gee....I wonder if something like this could actually happen?". The only reason why Dr. Loomis made the connection between Michael and Celtic lore, was because he was given all of Michael's childhood drawings and writings. Some of which pertained to things like "Samhain"(pronounced "SOW - in"), the druids, the lord of the dead, and the Elder Futhark runic alphabet(like "Thorn" for instance). The reason why Dr. Loomis pronounced "Samhain" incorrectly, is because he was not an expert on Celtic lore. In none of the research that he did into those subjects during the 15 years that he was studying Michael did it mention the proper pronunciation of the Celtic word "Samhain".
@@Out-Cast75 ye, to me these two movies are the only ones that matter, and maybe season of the witch since this francize was going to be an anthology originally, all later instalments, the Rob Zombie remakes and the 2018 reboot in my eyes can be best left out, not forgotten but left out of the story
@@james739123 * Hey did you know that Halloween VI actually connects Halloween III to the series. In Halloween III Ellie Grimbridge mentions that her father had a meeting with a "Mrs. Blankenship". In Halloween VI, they introduce us to Mrs. Blankenship. She was a member of the cult, and she was supposed to be babysitting Michael Myers the night he made that sacrifice to Crom Cruach by murdering his eldest sibling(Judith) the night of Halloween in 1963. * It is believed that the main antagonist of Halloween III(Conal Cochran) made the Michael Myers masks specifically for Michael Myers. Probably because he had been informed about "The Legend of Enda"(Michael Myers original incarnation in 478 b.c.). Also, Conal Cochran mentions Samhain(pronounced "SOW - in"), just like they mention it in Halloween II and VI. * Cochran also mentions that the planets have to be in alignment, and in Halloween VI Tommy Doyle mentions the same thing, about the constellation of "Thorn"(probably an anagram of "Muck Olla"), which is a constellation that consists of not just stars, but planets as well. This is why this particular constellation is not always visible(like Ursa Major and Minor), but only when the planets are in a certain alignment(just like Conal Cochran said). * I know that in Halloween III, they show the original Halloween movie being shown on television on Halloween night, but it might've been a docudrama that was based on the events that happened in Haddonfield on the Halloween night of 1978. They've made movies about real-life serial killers. If there really was a Michael Myers for real, don't you think they would've made a movie about him, and what would they have called the movie.................."Halloween". * As far as Rob Zombie goes, he missed out on a wonderful opportunity. He could've had the movie taking place in the "real" Haddonfield, which is in New Jersey, but it looks very similar to the Haddonfield in Halloween I & II. Also, Debra Hill(the producer and co-writer of the original Halloween film) grew up in Haddonfield, NJ and this would've been Rob Zombie's opportunity to have "Smith's Grove" be located where the "real" Smith's Grove is located, in Kentucky.
Is there a more random scene in any horror movie than dr loomis chasing down Ben Tramer, Ben then being hit by a cop car and pinned to a van, then to be engulfed in flame, all while the layout of the street completely changes? The only other thing that comes close off the top of my head is the pancakes scene in cabin fever
What do you mean? The scene is blocked fine. Look at the filming location. Meridian and Magnolia in south Pasadena, Loomis exits the car from the north side of the intersection and chases Ben where he is hit and pinned on the south side of the intersection.
I LOVE how serious and stoic Loomis was when he looked at Micheal at the bottom of the grass CUT TO Halloween 2 with Loomis running down the road screaming “I shOT HIm sIX TiMeS!!!” Like a lunatic
His "I knew I was right" look when he sees Michael's gone at the end of the original was better because it proved everything he said was true. His shock in II makes no sense.
I especially love seeing Michael move through the labyrinth of alleys and back yards of Haddonfield on Halloween night. Its some of my favorite shots of the movies.
9:17 You'd think that after telling his wife their daughter had been murdered he'd want to go right after Michael to avenge her. But no he just disappears from the film after that. And Michael escaped Smith's Grove after letting the patients out as a distraction, forcing Marion out of the car and driving away so I never got why Brackett thought Loomis let him out.
that always bugged me too and i just assumed it was just me since ive never heard anyone else mention it. im glad its not iust me lol. I for some reason was always annoyed how not just bracket but others always wanted to blame lumis for letting him out when the movie clearly stated that lumis had tried to keep him locked up for the previous 7 yeara and moved to a higher security prison and lumis was the only one trying to find him and stop him. But what anniyed me most was how they didnt give lumis a reply line of how he was the only one begging to move him and keeo him locked up for rest of his life. They basically had lumis just take it without defending himself which for some reason always annyed me somehow lol. 0
He was likely in complete shock to really think about that. As much as I hated Kills at least Cyphers came back as Brackett and they made the scene where he sees Annie's corpse canon from this film so that was nice. He even finally went after Michael too even if it didn't turn out well.
I liked this movie a lot more that The Doc did, though all of his points are valid. One thing I feel like Doctor Wolfula's review didn't really take into account is this: I really feel like the version of Michael Myers we get in Halloween 2 is the version that really cemented his reputation as an unstoppable, insurmountable force. In the original first movie, we don't really get that from him until the climax of the movie with him taking the six shots and falling off the balcony, only to get up and leave. In Halloween 2, they really take that concept and run with it: moving about freely and effortlessly with six (or seven) bullets inside of him, drowning someone in scalding water with no concern about his own hands being maimed, stabbing the nurse and his ability to lift her off the ground one-handed (which is an supercharged callback to his Bob lifted against the wall knife kill in the first movie) , walking through the plate glass door of the hospital, taking even more rounds from Loomis, taking more kinda bullets to the head from Laurie, and his eventual emergence from the explosion walking methodically as he does (until his collapse.) While some may feel like it may have been best to leave him mysterious and undefined as he was in the first movie, Halloween 2 is the film that truly elevated Michael's unstoppable prowess in the eyes of a lot horror fans, flaws and all.
@@scottyj8655 but Jason wasn’t a Zombie yet in 1982. He runs in part 2-4, and doesn’t become a methodical zombie until part 6. If anything, by slowing Jason down in later movies, they made him more like Michael than before
John had the right idea for an anthology series, but people wanted more Michael so....let’s milk him!! My point is this series did serve as an influence to other horror films, and Myers is an icon, but it could have been so much better. H2 was basically John not giving a damn, and I sympathize with him. Evil took form of Myers one night and could have been something else keeping John’s world intact.
@@CarloisBuriedAlive yeah but, at the same time it also got a bit stale. You have great atmosphere, music, characters etc. yet for 4-6 you make Michael indestructible making any protagonist pointless. He’s a force of nature, and evil never dies, but come on now you’re making it way too obvious. When he’s more grounded it’s much more scary to see how he interacts with those around him. But as a overpowered Jason Voorhees (who lacks any depth whatsoever) it’s just a killer who obviously cannot be killed. And the more they explored Michael the less interesting it got. You might as well exit the theater, because it’s predictable who’s going to survive and everyone else is fucked. The mysterious suspenseful nature of 1 and maybe 2 was lost. It became more action focused (maybe less so in 4 which was the best of the trilogy). They should have ended it at four but Akkad got greedy and fucked it up in 5, and 6 was a joke because you didn’t have a fucking clue what was going on (don’t get that confused with good mystery, this is just pure confusion with no one wanting to know more). Whatever potential the other timelines had was squandered: h20 retconned in resurrection (ew), and fuck rob zombie. Halloween 2018, ironically categorized in the final timeline, is the only film that (despite some faults) got close to the original. The last two sequels, I hope, will improve upon the original formula that drew us to the series to begin with. Anyways that’s my take on it.
I really like that it's a same-night continuation of H1 - it kind of makes you sympathize with the exhausted Laurie - she's the only one who thinks Michael is still after her; kind of reminds me of being a kid and thinking there's a monster under the bed even though your parents say there isn't.
I know Halloween 4 gets a lot of love, and it is one of my favorites too, but 2 is my favorite sequel. It's the one that I think feels most like the original.
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I love the start of part 2, seeing the town waking to find the chaos of Myers killing spree, Loomis hysteria etc. I also love the ending but the middle part really drags around the hospital. I don't understand why they wrote the sheriff out. You'd think he'd be out for revenge hunting Myers.
@@spaceinvader8791 fr.. ugghh it isn't too late but I doubt they have interest in that. Michael is already established as the poster boy of the franchise. Damn shame .
Carpenter was correct with the word "Samhain" it was old Scottish and gaelic. Manx "Gaelic pronounced Samhain as "Sauin" Great review as always, can't wait for your "Halloween III" Review :)
Only recently discovered your channel a few months back. Been catching up on your past vids. Just wanted to say I really enjoy your reviews and riffviews.
Halloween 2 is my all-time favorite horror movie. I saw it for the first time on VHS, back in late '82 when I was nine years old and it scared the shit out of me! It was the first horror movie that I saw that legitimately scared me. I was convinced that Michael Myers could literally appear anywhere for at least three or four years. It is kind of ironic thinking about the twist of Michael and Laurie being siblings because Laurie never discovered that revelation in the movie.
the first is....H2 1981 is oddly the most nostalgic horror movie ever, it just gets a pass for everything....despite obvious flaws that are fixed in H4 and 2018.
Great video! I’m a big fan of Halloween 2. As a kid, I saw this one much more than the first, thanks to recording it off USA one Halloween. I watched that VHS quite often and when I finally saw the “theatrical” version a few years later, I was surprised at the differences...most notably the whole Jimmy thing. The good thing about the tv version is that last little scare of Jimmy sitting up in the ambulance. For a split second, you think it could be Michael. Anyway, nice video...can’t wait for more!
Great review Doc. This is one the best Halloween films, cuz it fit really well with part 1. Also a dark empty hospital always freaked me out... . Can you please do a review of Dolls. Sorry, I had to ask
I actually watched the first Halloween last night and my thinking was the killings must've happened between 8p to 10p because Annie picks up Laurie after 6:30p. So, technically, the events in this one wouldn't seem too far into the night. Great review.
Yup, exactly. Bc when the kids come up and tell Deputy Hunt that they're worried sbout Bennett Trammer. They say: "He left the party at 10!" Hunt replies: "Its only a little after 11, boys."
I think the whole "careful pacing" aspect of Halloween could only be a one and done. By H2 we know Michael intentions, know his modus operandi, and know he's more or less a literal bogeyman. Once that plot device is out of the bag, there's no going back to a slow buildup. Not a slow buildup that the audience won't see coming anyway. H2 has it's flaws, and H1 is certainly a better movie, but if I'm forced to choose I go with H2 because it hits the ground running and never lets up. Having Dean Cundey return was also a huge plus.
It's like the shark from Jaws. The idea to hide it for half the film to build suspense and show its POV only worked once. It couldn't be recreated for Jaws 2.
Another fine job Doc! One positive about the TV version, it rearranged some of the beginning scenes so it doesn’t seem like the news finds out about the bodies in the house before the police. So it’s got that going for it. Which is nice...
I feel like the film would've been much more organic if the story focused more on Laurie struggling over everything that happened that night and Sheriff Brackett was the one to stay by her side trying to protect her and comfort her. I like the idea of him trying to protect Laurie in a fatherly manner because he just lost Annie, while Loomis did more of the searching for Michael. I could also see Bracket also sacrificing himself to save Laurie, in a way where it feels like he's trying to protect the daughter he couldn't save.
Its a really good movie, the 1st person p.o.v is great and the music got scarier and more intense. The problem is the sibling reveal, I feel that really hurt the series in the long run. It took the boogeyman into a cat and mouse game.
@@ricosalvaje5802 it wasn't supposed to hurt the ''series'' in the long run cause it was supposed to be the ENDING of the michael myers story. it was the end for me..two great halloween classic movies 1978 and 1981. the rest doesn't exist for me.michael died in the hospital from the fire explosion.the end.all the bad sequels and the many timelines that came after halloween 2 were mess
Yes! The exit at 21:54 makes me laugh. It's almost like a subliminal image. If I were a real creep, I'd re-record the movie with that image popping up at various places to give it a more subliminal experience.
This is a movie where the ambience and tone do alot of the heavy lifting. The film is so pleasant to watch that you kinda forget that nothing is really going on. And that finalé, fucking **chef's kiss**
20:49 That's pretty spectacular targeting for someone who (1) has probably never handled a firearm before, (2) is sitting in an uncomfortable position, (3) is in pain AND heavily medicated for same, (4) is probably *urinating* adrenaline, and (5) wouldn't even be TRYING to make such a shot. I don't know which is more idiotic: the idea that she shot both eyes out deliberately, or did it by accident.
I love how Bud was just smokin' a doob in the break room of the hospital... as if it were allowed, or something. That's how I've always treated weed too.
I really do feel like the camera work for Michael was done quite well. In two kills, much of the focus is towards the victims before their eventual death, Michael is out of focus, which looks really good, and makes sense, because Michael looks out of focus in Haddonfield.
For something different, wife and I watched the "TV versions" of H1 and H2. Loomis only shoots 6 times in the TV version of H2 (rewound twice to verify). Guess they fixed the editing on that one. The shots seemed way faster too.
I gotta say im not personally a fan of the new opening and filter of the video. But I do love that you have improved so much quality wise over the years and prefer the way you review movies now. Ive only been watching since 2015 but I love your channel.
12:23 There also should have been more patients in there for Michael to kill as he looked for Laurie. Laurie and some babies in the maternity ward being the hospital's only patients makes no sense.
Aging like a fine blood red wine. I liked the over the top cartoonish voice of Wolfula being savage as fuck to movies but I am loving these more balanced reviews. I often give a dishwater performance in a dishwater wig.
It’s a lot I don’t agree with on this review. But this was the absolutely best sequel in the series and out of all the timelines. Is this film flawed? Yes in some ways, but the movie was still overall great
I love the Ben Tramer back story so much it's my head canon and I really fucking hope he gets the same fate in Halloween Kills, literally just splice the footage from two into it.
Halloween 2 is flawed but every time when I finish watching the original Halloween I have to watch Halloween 2. It's not perfect and I prefer Michael and Laurie not being related but in my opinion Halloween 2 is better than Halloween (2018). Halloween (2018) is really good though.
If you kept saying " This man is dangerous. " Again and again you would eventually get aggravated by a doubt full small town cop. He is very annoyed by this ineffective police force.
It’s crazy to me that you can tell the film had many cooks in the kitchen because you can tell where directing decisions and who directed what are clearly apparent. You can tell where Carpenter directed a scene and when Rosenthal directed a scene. Then of course you have Universal studios making complaints and wanting changes, Debra Hill and John Carpenter making complaints and decisions, Dino De Laurentis wanting changes, Irwin Yablans pitching his two cents so Rick Rosenthal truly had a lot on his shoulders to be able to complete the film and I commend him for it. I truly wish we got Rosenthal’s original vision where it played out like Carpenter’s original Halloween where it was slow burning and suspenseful as opposed to Carpenters vision where it was just make a bloody mess to keep up with Friday the 13th so people would go and see it. That hurts to say because Carpenter is all in all a true visionary with almost anything he has put to film in his career and I’m a massive fan of his but he practically tried to destroy this film and was being a notoriously grouchy jackass because he didn’t want to do the film at all but screwed himself trying to go behind Yablans back. On the by and by I love Halloween II for what it is and it’s still a solid sequel despite it being made out of a legal binding mess that no one wanted to make, it’s just sad to see that it had so much more potential to go on to be legendary like it predecessor.
Yeah he’s kind of a dickhead by going behind his back, but I completely empathize with him on making a sequel that literally goes against his vision of the original film. The original is a very cerebral in it’s ending, so Carpenter was probably like, “so you don’t want a cerebral ending I guess. Let’s make it gory”. He’s a visionary, but the idea of a sequel does go against his vision for the Michael Myers story. You can’t have visionary Carpenter on a whim, as that’s not really how someone like him works. A lot of people don’t realize that Carpenter probably would have made the original a bit more violent without Yablans who insisted that the film should have minimal gore, and Carpenter didn’t question that choice, but it explains why he was for the gore in the sequel and pretty much all of his other films. Gore does not make horror films less suspenseful, but taking away the gore makes the atmosphere of the original work as well as it does.
@@thomasffrench3639 Halloween 2 essentially became a film that no one wanted to make, and while the concept of the film taking place on the same night makes sense and does work as an idea, there was more potential for ideas. The used concept was just the easiest avenue to work with and got the script to the finish line. And boy does it show in the final product.
Can we all have a moment of silence for Ben Tramer, who somehow managed to overcome debilitating arm mobility issues to become the star quarterback for Haddonfield High's football team?
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He could have really heated things up with Laurie but eventually literally heated up.
I hope we get to see him in Halloween Kills or Ends.
@@fynnthefox9078 He'll come to Laurie's aid at the very end of Halloween Ends. She'll be too scared to face him so she ends up getting killed by Michael.
THE END.
@@dr.loomis4221 *spoiler alert* That didn't happen, but I sooooo wish it did. I like your ending way better than the actual haha.
I never thought anyone could show more grief for Ben Tramer than the Cinema Snob did in his review. Well done, Doc.
That's because Wolfula is actually The Snob in his fursona
Next to Ted Hollister's death, it's one of the greatest tragedies to ever hit Haddonfield.
Fuck Ted Hollister!!! lol Ted Hollister dont have shit on Ben Tramer!!!! lol
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The way Dr Wolfula talks about Ben Tramer makes it sound like he and Ben were destined to be married, or that he secretly stalked Ben like Michael did Laurie.
@suny123boy1 indeed Ben was the greatest in all hardenfield but sadly he was take to soon
Rip Ben, he overcame a debilitating arm mobility condition to become a star quarterback at haddonfield highs football team
RIP Ben Tramer and Ted Hollister.
Still my favorite direct part 2 to a Halloween film
I mean there’s not a whole lot of competition there.
Mine as well, i Rember watching H 2 when I was 6 and after that I always watched the original and part 2 back to back. In my opinion it's m7ch better then H 2018.
* Thank you. I couldn't believe my eyes for a second there. I was thinking "Wait a minute....someone else actually likes the original Halloween II?" I had gotten so used to people shitting all over this movie(including John Carpenter himself). I never understood what the huge problem was. It was only meant to be a scary Halloween horror film, that was supposed to keep you in suspense, give you an occasional jump scare, and every now and again throw you a Scooby Snack about Michael's origin, like a clue as to why Michael is doing all of this and what caused it.
It kind of generated audience participation, and even encouraged us to do some research into Celtic folklore, etc.(For instance: When Dr. Loomis refers to "The Lord of the Dead", he is presumably referring to "Muck Olla", the original "Boogyman", and "Muck Olla" might even be the demon that possesses Michael's spirit.......who knows). It's that kind of stuff that intrigues certain audience members who know that they got that stuff straight out of actual Celtic lore, and Irish folklore, and that's what might make an audience member start wondering "Gee....I wonder if something like this could actually happen?".
The only reason why Dr. Loomis made the connection between Michael and Celtic lore, was because he was given all of Michael's childhood drawings and writings. Some of which pertained to things like "Samhain"(pronounced "SOW - in"), the druids, the lord of the dead, and the Elder Futhark runic alphabet(like "Thorn" for instance). The reason why Dr. Loomis pronounced "Samhain" incorrectly, is because he was not an expert on Celtic lore. In none of the research that he did into those subjects during the 15 years that he was studying Michael did it mention the proper pronunciation of the Celtic word "Samhain".
@@Out-Cast75 ye, to me these two movies are the only ones that matter, and maybe season of the witch since this francize was going to be an anthology originally, all later instalments, the Rob Zombie remakes and the 2018 reboot in my eyes can be best left out, not forgotten but left out of the story
@@james739123 * Hey did you know that Halloween VI actually connects Halloween III to the series. In Halloween III Ellie Grimbridge mentions that her father had a meeting with a "Mrs. Blankenship". In Halloween VI, they introduce us to Mrs. Blankenship. She was a member of the cult, and she was supposed to be babysitting Michael Myers the night he made that sacrifice to Crom Cruach by murdering his eldest sibling(Judith) the night of Halloween in 1963.
* It is believed that the main antagonist of Halloween III(Conal Cochran) made the Michael Myers masks specifically for Michael Myers. Probably because he had been informed about "The Legend of Enda"(Michael Myers original incarnation in 478 b.c.). Also, Conal Cochran mentions Samhain(pronounced "SOW - in"), just like they mention it in Halloween II and VI.
* Cochran also mentions that the planets have to be in alignment, and in Halloween VI Tommy Doyle mentions the same thing, about the constellation of "Thorn"(probably an anagram of "Muck Olla"), which is a constellation that consists of not just stars, but planets as well. This is why this particular constellation is not always visible(like Ursa Major and Minor), but only when the planets are in a certain alignment(just like Conal Cochran said).
* I know that in Halloween III, they show the original Halloween movie being shown on television on Halloween night, but it might've been a docudrama that was based on the events that happened in Haddonfield on the Halloween night of 1978. They've made movies about real-life serial killers. If there really was a Michael Myers for real, don't you think they would've made a movie about him, and what would they have called the movie.................."Halloween".
* As far as Rob Zombie goes, he missed out on a wonderful opportunity. He could've had the movie taking place in the "real" Haddonfield, which is in New Jersey, but it looks very similar to the Haddonfield in Halloween I & II. Also, Debra Hill(the producer and co-writer of the original Halloween film) grew up in Haddonfield, NJ and this would've been Rob Zombie's opportunity to have "Smith's Grove" be located where the "real" Smith's Grove is located, in Kentucky.
I’ve been binging on Old Doctor Wolfula videos recently.
Same here. Dr wolfula and stitched together are my favorite horror reviewers.
@@ricosalvaje5802 if you like that may like Decker shadow he reviewed all the saw movies
@@dearsirdearyou4153 I've watched alot of Deckers stuff. I still think stitched together and dr wolfula are the best.
@@ricosalvaje5802 that's fine it's your opinion
@@dearsirdearyou4153 there all very good guys to watch and enjoy. You can't go wrong with any of those guys.
Is there a more random scene in any horror movie than dr loomis chasing down Ben Tramer, Ben then being hit by a cop car and pinned to a van, then to be engulfed in flame, all while the layout of the street completely changes? The only other thing that comes close off the top of my head is the pancakes scene in cabin fever
The floral shop scene in _The Room._
What do you mean? The scene is blocked fine. Look at the filming location. Meridian and Magnolia in south Pasadena, Loomis exits the car from the north side of the intersection and chases Ben where he is hit and pinned on the south side of the intersection.
No. None at all.
@@DistractedGlobeGuy that's not as horror movie
@@libertyprime619 have you seen the Tommy Wiseau sex scenes? That shit is as scary as the chest-mouth from _The Thing._
I LOVE how serious and stoic Loomis was when he looked at Micheal at the bottom of the grass CUT TO Halloween 2 with Loomis running down the road screaming “I shOT HIm sIX TiMeS!!!” Like a lunatic
His "I knew I was right" look when he sees Michael's gone at the end of the original was better because it proved everything he said was true. His shock in II makes no sense.
@@Xehanort10 It's definitely a bad continuity issue between the two films.
"You've fooled them, haven't you Michael? But not me." - Dr. Samuel Loomis
Yeah Michael just sat catatonic in a room for 15 years. That'll show em!
@@StanAlter The only time playing dead actually worked out cx
He knew he was too young. He would have to wait.
I especially love seeing Michael move through the labyrinth of alleys and back yards of Haddonfield on Halloween night. Its some of my favorite shots of the movies.
agreed im soo happy they showed some more in Halloween kills love those scenes the are soo eerie
Dean Cundey's cinematography is outstanding in those scenes.
Yes they are great shots. Such atmosphere!
"Julie's full of sugar".
That's the sweetest thing ever.
You don't have to swear
Every other word you say is either "sweet" or "sweet" or "sugar"...
The original Halloween and Halloween 2 were the best films of the series. They had a certain feel that was never captured again!
U sir said it right much love
4 is good as well
@@434444334 Halloween 4 was good but it was a different story
@@OscarHernandez-dm7hp if Halloween 4 had the mask from 1 and 2 would be legit perfect
@@thedarkroom6416 4 and especially the mask in 5 are just godawful.
9:17 You'd think that after telling his wife their daughter had been murdered he'd want to go right after Michael to avenge her. But no he just disappears from the film after that. And Michael escaped Smith's Grove after letting the patients out as a distraction, forcing Marion out of the car and driving away so I never got why Brackett thought Loomis let him out.
Gotta blame someone
that always bugged me too and i just assumed it was just me since ive never heard anyone else mention it. im glad its not iust me lol. I for some reason was always annoyed how not just bracket but others always wanted to blame lumis for letting him out when the movie clearly stated that lumis had tried to keep him locked up for the previous 7 yeara and moved to a higher security prison and lumis was the only one trying to find him and stop him. But what anniyed me most was how they didnt give lumis a reply line of how he was the only one begging to move him and keeo him locked up for rest of his life. They basically had lumis just take it without defending himself which for some reason always annyed me somehow lol. 0
He was likely in complete shock to really think about that. As much as I hated Kills at least Cyphers came back as Brackett and they made the scene where he sees Annie's corpse canon from this film so that was nice. He even finally went after Michael too even if it didn't turn out well.
RIP Ben Tramer.
I liked this movie a lot more that The Doc did, though all of his points are valid. One thing I feel like Doctor Wolfula's review didn't really take into account is this: I really feel like the version of Michael Myers we get in Halloween 2 is the version that really cemented his reputation as an unstoppable, insurmountable force. In the original first movie, we don't really get that from him until the climax of the movie with him taking the six shots and falling off the balcony, only to get up and leave. In Halloween 2, they really take that concept and run with it: moving about freely and effortlessly with six (or seven) bullets inside of him, drowning someone in scalding water with no concern about his own hands being maimed, stabbing the nurse and his ability to lift her off the ground one-handed (which is an supercharged callback to his Bob lifted against the wall knife kill in the first movie) , walking through the plate glass door of the hospital, taking even more rounds from Loomis, taking more kinda bullets to the head from Laurie, and his eventual emergence from the explosion walking methodically as he does (until his collapse.) While some may feel like it may have been best to leave him mysterious and undefined as he was in the first movie, Halloween 2 is the film that truly elevated Michael's unstoppable prowess in the eyes of a lot horror fans, flaws and all.
He acts to much like a zombie, feels like a knock of Jason.
@@scottyj8655 but Jason wasn’t a Zombie yet in 1982. He runs in part 2-4, and doesn’t become a methodical zombie until part 6. If anything, by slowing Jason down in later movies, they made him more like Michael than before
The marshall never shot Michael. It was Loomis again.
@@EntertainmentFan11 - yep. Fixed.
Him surviving is much more showing of him being unstoppable instead of dying at the end.
I love the slight redesign of the Doc (er I mean uhh...I love the new jacket, and the hand moisturizer you've been using Doc, it's great)
You realize if Laurie didn’t babysit and went out with Ben Tramer she would have gone out with someone dressed exactly like Michael. 😳
Justice for Ben Tramer
Wait, wrong channel.
Lmao.
Some crazy invest vibes going on here
John had the right idea for an anthology series, but people wanted more Michael so....let’s milk him!! My point is this series did serve as an influence to other horror films, and Myers is an icon, but it could have been so much better. H2 was basically John not giving a damn, and I sympathize with him. Evil took form of Myers one night and could have been something else keeping John’s world intact.
@@CarloisBuriedAlive yeah but, at the same time it also got a bit stale. You have great atmosphere, music, characters etc. yet for 4-6 you make Michael indestructible making any protagonist pointless. He’s a force of nature, and evil never dies, but come on now you’re making it way too obvious. When he’s more grounded it’s much more scary to see how he interacts with those around him. But as a overpowered Jason Voorhees (who lacks any depth whatsoever) it’s just a killer who obviously cannot be killed.
And the more they explored Michael the less interesting it got. You might as well exit the theater, because it’s predictable who’s going to survive and everyone else is fucked. The mysterious suspenseful nature of 1 and maybe 2 was lost. It became more action focused (maybe less so in 4 which was the best of the trilogy). They should have ended it at four but Akkad got greedy and fucked it up in 5, and 6 was a joke because you didn’t have a fucking clue what was going on (don’t get that confused with good mystery, this is just pure confusion with no one wanting to know more). Whatever potential the other timelines had was squandered: h20 retconned in resurrection (ew), and fuck rob zombie. Halloween 2018, ironically categorized in the final timeline, is the only film that (despite some faults) got close to the original. The last two sequels, I hope, will improve upon the original formula that drew us to the series to begin with. Anyways that’s my take on it.
The Halloween and Friday the 13th franchise reviews are the reason I subbed to Doc.
Glad to see these again. Would love to see more
I really like that it's a same-night continuation of H1 - it kind of makes you sympathize with the exhausted Laurie - she's the only one who thinks Michael is still after her; kind of reminds me of being a kid and thinking there's a monster under the bed even though your parents say there isn't.
I know Halloween 4 gets a lot of love, and it is one of my favorites too, but 2 is my favorite sequel. It's the one that I think feels most like the original.
That Ben Tramer bit was hilarious. Haven't laughed that hard in quite awhile. Kudos to you Doc for that.
Wonder if he's gonna mention Dick Warlock's head being slightly wider.
It's in poor taste to mention the girth of a Dick's head.
@@DoctorWolfula to quote Chuck Greene from Dead Rising 2, I saw what you did there.
Samhain Returns LOL! Yeah the mask rotted in 3 years, it had absolutely nothing to do with the different head shape... Who tf did tell you that!?
@@DoctorWolfula 😂😂😂
Doctor Wolfula I always wondered why the mask looked so tight 🤣
Can’t wait for the one with Tom Atkins
It makes me happy to see a creator I’ve been watching since 20,000 subscribers, who seemed to stop growing for a while, hit that 100k milestone.
I watched Halloween 1 to 6 last week so, your reviews make the experience a lot better ❤
Dang Doctor Wolfula! The new intro is amazing and the quality has skyrocketed. 2021 is going to be the year of the Wolfula!
Man I been around youtube your whole career and around horror never stumbled upon your channel I been binge watching reviews and die in theater good content keep it up hopefully eyes are starting to notice your channel very good sir👍👍..oh oh and I LOVE all the arrested development easter eggs u throw in LOL
I love the start of part 2, seeing the town waking to find the chaos of Myers killing spree, Loomis hysteria etc. I also love the ending but the middle part really drags around the hospital. I don't understand why they wrote the sheriff out. You'd think he'd be out for revenge hunting Myers.
Season of the witch is my favorite. Such a stand a lone. Plus it showed they didn't need Micheal to keep the Halloween name going.
True I love season of the witch and in my opinion I wish the series would have become a anthology series like in John Carpenters vision.
@@spaceinvader8791 exactly. Kinda like trick r treat did. Have Micheal do his own series. Call it myers memoirs or something lol
@@spaceinvader8791 or better example creepshow
@@KakashiHatake-jg6ok yeah or like tales from the crypt episodes made into movies that would've been awesome!
@@spaceinvader8791 fr.. ugghh it isn't too late but I doubt they have interest in that. Michael is already established as the poster boy of the franchise. Damn shame .
Carpenter was correct with the word "Samhain" it was old Scottish and gaelic.
Manx "Gaelic pronounced Samhain as "Sauin" Great review as always, can't wait for your "Halloween III" Review :)
Only recently discovered your channel a few months back. Been catching up on your past vids. Just wanted to say I really enjoy your reviews and riffviews.
Halloween 2 is my all-time favorite horror movie. I saw it for the first time on VHS, back in late '82 when I was nine years old and it scared the shit out of me! It was the first horror movie that I saw that legitimately scared me. I was convinced that Michael Myers could literally appear anywhere for at least three or four years. It is kind of ironic thinking about the twist of Michael and Laurie being siblings because Laurie never discovered that revelation in the movie.
Man, I've watched this and your Halloween 3 video like 20x each-cant wait for 4!
"Julie's full of sugar!"
That made me snort. 😆
The first two Halloween movies will always be the best 🎃🔪
No shit oh really I thought the last two were considered the best *sarcasm*
the first is....H2 1981 is oddly the most nostalgic horror movie ever, it just gets a pass for everything....despite obvious flaws that are fixed in H4 and 2018.
Great video! I’m a big fan of Halloween 2. As a kid, I saw this one much more than the first, thanks to recording it off USA one Halloween. I watched that VHS quite often and when I finally saw the “theatrical” version a few years later, I was surprised at the differences...most notably the whole Jimmy thing. The good thing about the tv version is that last little scare of Jimmy sitting up in the ambulance. For a split second, you think it could be Michael. Anyway, nice video...can’t wait for more!
Great review Doc. This is one the best Halloween films, cuz it fit really well with part 1. Also a dark empty hospital always freaked me out... . Can you please do a review of Dolls. Sorry, I had to ask
(Majority of people who watch slasher films should have this opinion) Michael Myers is always gonna be the best horror slasher icon ever
Im Truly The King Of New York um it is
Sorry, I gotta say that title goes to Jason.
@@electricfishfan You sadly right 😅
I actually watched the first Halloween last night and my thinking was the killings must've happened between 8p to 10p because Annie picks up Laurie after 6:30p. So, technically, the events in this one wouldn't seem too far into the night. Great review.
Yup, exactly. Bc when the kids come up and tell Deputy Hunt that they're worried sbout Bennett Trammer. They say: "He left the party at 10!" Hunt replies: "Its only a little after 11, boys."
What a great review! I always hoped wolfie would revisit these movies in a longer format. Thank you Doctor!!!
Easily one of my favorite channels on youtube. Keep up the good work Doc🤘
“Amazing grace. Come {sHOw mE} your face.” Amazing.
Right up there with "How'd you get a scar like that? Eating {pINeaPple}?"
God, the Ben Tramer bit is just the best, top tier Doc.
I think the whole "careful pacing" aspect of Halloween could only be a one and done. By H2 we know Michael intentions, know his modus operandi, and know he's more or less a literal bogeyman. Once that plot device is out of the bag, there's no going back to a slow buildup. Not a slow buildup that the audience won't see coming anyway. H2 has it's flaws, and H1 is certainly a better movie, but if I'm forced to choose I go with H2 because it hits the ground running and never lets up. Having Dean Cundey return was also a huge plus.
Definitely based off the premise the film has to be faster since know people know Myers is on the loose and have to catch him quickly.
It's like the shark from Jaws. The idea to hide it for half the film to build suspense and show its POV only worked once. It couldn't be recreated for Jaws 2.
We thoroughly enjoyed that review. Thank you.
Another fine job Doc!
One positive about the TV version, it rearranged some of the beginning scenes so it doesn’t seem like the news finds out about the bodies in the house before the police. So it’s got that going for it. Which is nice...
I watch all of these reviews every year after I watch the movies. Gracias DW!!!!
Another good scary sequel used to watch it all the time when i was younger on amc
Same I still watch it too lol on my dvd's
The last three years AMC hasn’t aired Halloween II and III during fright fest. I’m assuming they don’t want to pay universal for permission to air it.
@@gameroftheyear1000 i noticed that too . It sucks
I feel like the film would've been much more organic if the story focused more on Laurie struggling over everything that happened that night and Sheriff Brackett was the one to stay by her side trying to protect her and comfort her. I like the idea of him trying to protect Laurie in a fatherly manner because he just lost Annie, while Loomis did more of the searching for Michael. I could also see Bracket also sacrificing himself to save Laurie, in a way where it feels like he's trying to protect the daughter he couldn't save.
i know im in the minority, but halloween 2 is my favorite halloween movie
Its a really good movie, the 1st person p.o.v is great and the music got scarier and more intense. The problem is the sibling reveal, I feel that really hurt the series in the long run. It took the boogeyman into a cat and mouse game.
I’m with you, I love it to.
@@ricosalvaje5802 it wasn't supposed to hurt the ''series'' in the long run cause it was supposed to be the ENDING of the michael myers story. it was the end for me..two great halloween classic movies 1978 and 1981. the rest doesn't exist for me.michael died in the hospital from the fire explosion.the end.all the bad sequels and the many timelines that came after halloween 2 were mess
@@sakischaris5475 I saw Halloween 4 as my first Halloween ,I never knew that Halloween was supposed to stop after the 2nd movie until years later.
@@sakischaris5475 agree 100%
Yes! The exit at 21:54 makes me laugh. It's almost like a subliminal image. If I were a real creep, I'd re-record the movie with that image popping up at various places to give it a more subliminal experience.
This is a movie where the ambience and tone do alot of the heavy lifting. The film is so pleasant to watch that you kinda forget that nothing is really going on. And that finalé, fucking **chef's kiss**
You're take on Alice calling the cops on the Elrods is Hysterical
Can't wait for this. This month is gonna be great.
Another great video doc. Looking forward to Halloween 3 next.
My favorite horror movie reviewed by my favorite horror reviewer. Another great video Doc!
20:49 That's pretty spectacular targeting for someone who (1) has probably never handled a firearm before, (2) is sitting in an uncomfortable position, (3) is in pain AND heavily medicated for same, (4) is probably *urinating* adrenaline, and (5) wouldn't even be TRYING to make such a shot. I don't know which is more idiotic: the idea that she shot both eyes out deliberately, or did it by accident.
Love the Ben tramer backstory. Hope you do it for Bucky the plant worker.
I will say, it is probably my favorite Halloween 2
I love how Bud was just smokin' a doob in the break room of the hospital... as if it were allowed, or something.
That's how I've always treated weed too.
That review was so engaging and enjoyable
Doc, I love your videos. You still doing those live stream watch-alongs?
always one of my favorite halloween sequels great review doc it was very enjoyable as always :)
I like how the only patients in that hospital were Laurie, the razor blade mouth boy, and some babies haha.
My fav of the Halloween flicks,, flaws included. I love how claustrophobic & fast-paced it is when it needs to be..
You the man... uh you the man-wolf... uh you the man wolf-man doc! Keep it up, loving the vids
"it's a tribe, one of their numbers was butchered.... it's a Wake!" . Yeah, Maybe Loomis shouldn't have a firearm.
Honestly Halloween 2 (2981) is my favorite in the series
Is the Doc sporting the Fisherman coat from I know what you did last summer???
Doctor Wolfula have you seen the Strangers? The Family from the Strangers has the body language of The Shape despite them talking.
I really do feel like the camera work for Michael was done quite well. In two kills, much of the focus is towards the victims before their eventual death, Michael is out of focus, which looks really good, and makes sense, because Michael looks out of focus in Haddonfield.
Amazing review!
Halloween II while flawed, is always gonna be a classic to watch.
It's also great to learn a few fun facts from this video. 👌
For something different, wife and I watched the "TV versions" of H1 and H2. Loomis only shoots 6 times in the TV version of H2 (rewound twice to verify). Guess they fixed the editing on that one. The shots seemed way faster too.
I gotta say im not personally a fan of the new opening and filter of the video. But I do love that you have improved so much quality wise over the years and prefer the way you review movies now. Ive only been watching since 2015 but I love your channel.
Ive been Waiting For This Since I clicked to view all your channels videos
In the book adaptation. Loomis stays with Laurie till the ambulance comes
Nice pumpkin pin doc really puts you in the October mood
Hands down, my favorite Halloween sequel: Never thought is was an "abomination" as Carpenter claimed.
12:23 There also should have been more patients in there for Michael to kill as he looked for Laurie. Laurie and some babies in the maternity ward being the hospital's only patients makes no sense.
Aging like a fine blood red wine. I liked the over the top cartoonish voice of Wolfula being savage as fuck to movies but I am loving these more balanced reviews.
I often give a dishwater performance in a dishwater wig.
It’s a lot I don’t agree with on this review. But this was the absolutely best sequel in the series and out of all the timelines. Is this film flawed? Yes in some ways, but the movie was still overall great
Yeah, but Jimmy was important as he is Jamie Lloyds father!!
Was he in Jaws:The Revenge?
Depends on the canon. They didn’t write it as such when the film was made as Carpenter wrote it to be the end of the Haddonfield and Myers story.
there's a man with no life in his eyes
@Evil Doughboy Hey ,that character Rob from Friday the 13 The Final chapter,was a DOUCHE
@suny123boy1 Harry manfredini vs Jhon carpenter,Manfredini wins
Eyes so black!
A FAN of a A NewBegining I see/
Halloween II in my opinion gives me darker vibes in a dark hospital.
Haven't watched a Wolfula video in a long time, and it sounds like Cyd had been lifting weights or something because his voice is deeper. 😔
The seventh shot was Doctor Lummis going BANG!
I love you doc keep up the good work you are the best youtuber
I love the Ben Tramer back story so much it's my head canon and I really fucking hope he gets the same fate in Halloween Kills, literally just splice the footage from two into it.
Loving the weekly Halloween reviews👍
Love the new intro Doc
Oh lordie you had me at ''dishwater wig''!!!!!
Halloween 2 is flawed but every time when I finish watching the original Halloween I have to watch Halloween 2.
It's not perfect and I prefer Michael and Laurie not being related but in my opinion Halloween 2 is better than Halloween (2018).
Halloween (2018) is really good though.
I kinda like the idea of a slasher hacking their way up a high-rise skyscraper Game of Death style.
Re-watching these in preparation for the next Aahctober give me some of the best comfortable feelings ever.
If you kept saying " This man is dangerous. "
Again and again you would eventually get aggravated by
a doubt full small town cop.
He is very annoyed by this ineffective police force.
For some reason, when Loomis says ''You don't know what death is", it always makes me laugh. WTF is that even supposed to mean?
The Ben Tramer bit...😂
It’s crazy to me that you can tell the film had many cooks in the kitchen because you can tell where directing decisions and who directed what are clearly apparent. You can tell where Carpenter directed a scene and when Rosenthal directed a scene. Then of course you have Universal studios making complaints and wanting changes, Debra Hill and John Carpenter making complaints and decisions, Dino De Laurentis wanting changes, Irwin Yablans pitching his two cents so Rick Rosenthal truly had a lot on his shoulders to be able to complete the film and I commend him for it. I truly wish we got Rosenthal’s original vision where it played out like Carpenter’s original Halloween where it was slow burning and suspenseful as opposed to Carpenters vision where it was just make a bloody mess to keep up with Friday the 13th so people would go and see it. That hurts to say because Carpenter is all in all a true visionary with almost anything he has put to film in his career and I’m a massive fan of his but he practically tried to destroy this film and was being a notoriously grouchy jackass because he didn’t want to do the film at all but screwed himself trying to go behind Yablans back. On the by and by I love Halloween II for what it is and it’s still a solid sequel despite it being made out of a legal binding mess that no one wanted to make, it’s just sad to see that it had so much more potential to go on to be legendary like it predecessor.
Yeah he’s kind of a dickhead by going behind his back, but I completely empathize with him on making a sequel that literally goes against his vision of the original film. The original is a very cerebral in it’s ending, so Carpenter was probably like, “so you don’t want a cerebral ending I guess. Let’s make it gory”. He’s a visionary, but the idea of a sequel does go against his vision for the Michael Myers story. You can’t have visionary Carpenter on a whim, as that’s not really how someone like him works.
A lot of people don’t realize that Carpenter probably would have made the original a bit more violent without Yablans who insisted that the film should have minimal gore, and Carpenter didn’t question that choice, but it explains why he was for the gore in the sequel and pretty much all of his other films. Gore does not make horror films less suspenseful, but taking away the gore makes the atmosphere of the original work as well as it does.
@@thomasffrench3639 Halloween 2 essentially became a film that no one wanted to make, and while the concept of the film taking place on the same night makes sense and does work as an idea, there was more potential for ideas. The used concept was just the easiest avenue to work with and got the script to the finish line. And boy does it show in the final product.
@@gameroftheyear1000 there’s just not much story there to expand to another movie
Thanks for giving me something to do at work.