Canon 90D - Optical Focusing Problem SOLVED! & 3 More Problems w Suggestions
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The first 4 issues I am noticing in regards to the 90D are:
1. Optical Focusing Problems Under Certain Conditions (FIXED!)
2. Soft Video When Shooting with all of the Sensor (Improved!)
3. Disappearing Menu Items (How to Solve)
4. Undersaturated RAW Files + Weird Color Issues (I guess we can just complain a lot! :P )
The optical focusing problem is something that others have mentioned, and what I found has resolved it for me.
Let me know what other issues you are seeing and we will try to see if we can document it for Canon!
Thank you For your Support!
#Canon90D #Canon90Dfocusing #Canon90DTutorial
You have enabled me to solve an autofocusing problem that I've been struggling with for a long time. Thanks!
Awesome pointers. I currently own a 90D and found the information given worthy. Thanks a million!
Thanks for this video. I just bought my 90d yesterday (upgrade from a 70d) and I have three youth football games to shoot with it today . This video should help me stay focused.
Thanks a lot. Changing recently from 70D to 90D I was asking myself why I was always focusing the false place ... Deactivating iTR was giving me sharp action Photos of my dogs again.
Thanks Michael for the update to the 4 problems you found, and do really appreciate your letting people with the 90D know.
Good catch regarding turning off face detection. I usually turn off this feature when doing general photo as the focusing is not consistent. Face detection is good when you're shooting a group with lots of faces essentially in the same plane. RAW tends to be neutral in color and tone while jpg will add a bit of color for a more pleasing image. Thanks for the hints.
Excellent explanation of the focusing issue that many have experienced and described but which few/none save you tracked down and provided an explanation.
thank you for noticing Craig!
Hi Michael
Thanks for your very great tutorials about the 90d. I bought this gear two days ago and because of your videos i got very quick used of the handling. So please keep going, all 90d users will appreciate.
Greetings from Berlin in Germany
ORDERED MY 90D YESTERDAY SO CANT WAIT UNTIL IT ARRIVES
You're saving my life here today, Michael. Only had the 90D out a couple of times shooting wildlife and was really disappointed with the auto-focusing. Going to change some settings based on your videos and go out again. Cheers
Resolveu?
Thanks for taking the time to test. Eye AF is probably one of the most compelling features of newer mirrorless cameras. Turning it off to resolve this issue means you have to cripple the camera. I hope there's a firmware fix coming.
Well , whether eye af is so great or not can be debated, anyway, he talks about the itr algorithm, not eye af. Just set it on for portrait shootings and store at custom setting 1 and otherwise leave it off, if you do sports shooting and dont like the camera to take control of where to focus.
Thank you so much Michael for sharing the issues and the tips!
Thanks re the autofocusing recommendation. In respect of the raw files, they are meant to look flat. So no problem there in my opinion
Correct. I expect the RAW files (it's how I always shoot since I use Lightroom Classic for management and post processing) to always be more flat than the JPEG (I use the JPEGs to quick-view get rid of any shots that are out of focus/improper exposure (sports photography) and send to friends/family quick from the camera) but canon processes the jpegs almost immediately before flattening, but they lose a lot of data that is unrecoverable, which the RAW files retain.
Once I started using the RAW files to edit and Lightroom to batch process, I realized I can do 500+ images in less than an hour, with pretty solid results, and will not go back to only having JPEG files anymore.
A battery pack with some back up batteries and 3 or 4 256gb cards and if I snap 300 photos in a game, I usually come out with 80-120 that are usable and I don't mind showing to people! Haha.
Thanks for that, I haven’t used my 90d in anger yet. This will help!
Michael, thank you for your deep review. As an Electrical Engineer of 40 years it's clear to me that consumers of Canon are now the QC department. These issues should have all been caught in pre-release so I can only conclude a lot of older (knowledgeable) Canon employees have been let go with recent sales downturns. Also, with this many issues, there are likely others you have NOT caught yet.
Man, I have to agree with you. Sometimes I wonder how they can miss these things we find or make crazy decisions like removing 24 p (which is coming back soon). I believe there are many issues not yet identified. Thank you for your support!
Very good info. I will try once I get my 90D.
Thanks a million I just hoped I would had found your video earlier, so many pictures have went wrong due to face priority focusing. I have had my 90D just for few months. As an example, shooting photos of dogs and it take only one person to be behind the dogs, yep focus which I selected is on the dogs but final focus appeared to be on the person behind the dogs, frustrating 😑 next picture the person face is more hidden behind the dogs and yes this time the focus went correctly. But now with help of your video I'll have more accurate focused photos. Thanks 😊
Thank you! So incredibly helpful!
Very useful information ..thank you
Kind of a workaround for the difference between raw and jpeg is using Canon's own DPP software for processing, the camera profile used in DPP just applies the jpeg settings the raw file.
Definitely great point. I just don’t like it 😂😂😂
Thankyou for this michael !!
I was afraid my older Canon 70 - 200mm L lens wasn't going to work, The fix solve it,. Whew !!! Thank You sir, I will buy your crash cruse .for sure.
yes things seem to be running a lone fine now after removing this. with i looked at this before 2 events i had this week :(,,, changed my lens like 5 times to see if it was lens sharpness . but this has helped
I actually have no problem with iTR, I even use it for birds in flight as the subjects I most often photograph. However, this works only when choosing [iTR Enable], not including the face recognition. Even though the AF works slower a bit on locking the focus, it's more accurate. That's the only trade off I found and I willingly choose this for the sake of accuracy 🙂
I learned, by trial and error, that the menus also change with the lens you choose. I put a Tamron lens on the 90D and some of the menu items were gone. They came back when I put a Canon lens on. Some of the focus modes are disabled, if I use the Canon 1.4 teleconverter.
Thanks
I never would have found that autofocus face priority. Mine was surely turned on and I surely turned it off. Had some shooting issues outside with my grandson. Some of the photos of him Easter egg hunting are soft and not focused sharply.
This is awesome information
JUst "joined" your group, waiting for approvasl :).
I cant wait to learn more about my 90D
@Michael, Thanks for your video !! Can you tell me which is better, Nikon D7500 or Canon 90D ? I find it difficult to select between these two.
Thanks for the advice. I suspected this on day one and disabled the face searching (iTR).
Ken Parks how to disable the Auto Focus ITT?
@@joseleon7444, Mike the Mavin has a video on this iTR, as to disable it. Watch the video of this thread.
Thanks for the video.
Very excited to see the full review... The iTR on 5D Mark IV works so damn well, strange to see happening on 90D
xDGuilherme Yeah I’m not sure what’s going on typically it’s on for other Canon cameras but I think it’s the face detection algorithm that screwing things up
It's the first thing i turned off on my 5d4 😂
Dear micheal. Please make a video lens calibration on Sony a99 and a7iii ?
I noticed the RAW colors for the 90D was very bland compared to the JPEGs but when I got my 5D I was blown away with the difference. The 90D is extremely low on color in RAW files. It did take me a while to learn to adjust color correctly on these images but I learned it and really like my 90D now and use it a lot with my 5D for car/race photography and sports.
About that raw color profile problem. I read somewhere that it's because the color profile of the camera (so basically the ICC of the camera, I suppose) are stocked in a proprietary format in the raw file and neither Lightroom or CaptureOne can extract informations from it. But if you use the canon's equivalent, Digital Photo Professional 4, the raw looks perfectly fine. Some people are using that tool to export the raw in tiff with correct colors and imports tiff in to lightroom, but it generates 200-300 mo by picture so for me it's a no-go. I found an approximative bypass, creating my own color profile in lightroom with the "camera calibration" tab in order to match the canon's colors. It works pretty well in my opinion, I created 4-5 presets that I can share. I suppose Canon will publish more accurate camera profile like they did with older gears.
Thanks for your video :)
I'm here for the video focusing issue. It's two years since this video, is the 4K cropping still the best solution? I'd hate to have to have that crop permanently just to get decent focus!
Thanks. Made the change of turning off eye focus. Lots of small issues still. Adobe Photoshop Elements 2020 doesn’t support the Canon 90D CR3 raw files. Requires Camera Raw 11.4 but Photoshop Elements 2020 came with Camera Raw 11.3. Not sure if there will be an update or whether we will have to wait for Photoshop Elements 2021. Using DPP4 from Canon to process the CR3 raw files.
Another issue is the buffer size with 40Mb raw files. Fills up really quick, and writing 40Mb files to a good SD card is slow.
Work around is to switch to using the new CRaw file format. Similar image quality with 20Mb CR3 files.
Great comment, thank you
Does Lightroom read the CR3 raw files?
Thanks Mike! Auto focus solved!
I just watched this video. Good info, BUT your camera has focus issues. Is that the 90D issue or did you leave it on auto?
YOU DA MAN. Just to give you a thumb up. Your 90D AF solution is great.
Did the 80d start off with many issues too? I got mine late and had no issues.
Thank you !!!
The 90d can shoot the external flash in liveview mode?
Your videos are terrific! Just bought a 90d for my grandson and am trying to learn about it before giving it to him. I would like to fix the focusing issue but my camera does not have the orange or star tabs shown in your video. Any idea why not? Thanks in advance.
John
if you haven't figured it out by now the camera mode wheel has to be turned to one of the special modes (other than "auto"). Go back to the menu and you should see all the tabs.
A DSLR Camera reminds me of a RC Nitro car very fun to use but your always tuning it !!!
I looked at this in my menu but neither enable or disable was selected. The top row with the name of it was blue. See the menu at 2:25 in the video, the line numbered 0 was blue. What does this mean? Was it on or off? I set it to where 2: disable is blue now but what was the default? I had a lot of focus problems with it in default but neither enable or disable was selected.
@ Michael The Mavin..i just got my 90d and took some photos using A+ mode of still images.. can of san marzano tomatoes using both the 50 1.8 and the 100 2.8 macro and the images were all fuzzy...Switched these lenses back to the 70d and using the same can of tomatoes both the 50 1.8 and 100 2.8 macro were sharp. Very troubling and thinking of returning the 90d but I thought I would ask advice..I am NOT on FB...
Devolveu ?
Thank you for update appreciated
Could you please show slowly how to use rear button focus thanks
Should I use facial recognition for wildlife photography?
Every picture starts as a RAW file, so the issue is not that the RAW file is bad, but that the in camera jpg processing is good. If you are using Lightroom the building a preview may fix that. Not sure that is possible yet.
What I was referring to is that typically camera companies issue the right information to Adobe that allow the processors to handle those raw files and it doesn’t look like these raw files are playing very nice right now
Thank you
Does the Itr option on video mode as well?
Any way you could delve a little deeper in help with focusing through the view finder? I'm still having quite some trouble. Can't seem to nail focus like through the live view for the life of me and I hate shooting through the live view... much rather prefer using the view finder.
Canon 90D Tutorial Optical Focusing System ua-cam.com/video/byddI8vtem4/v-deo.html
About menu desapear, in the 650d is the same, and its not a problem
I use a 9 square cluster for motor cross and it tends to focus on faces not in the cluster, even if that face is turned away from me
Is you itr turned on?
Canons have always had different menu options depending on which mode you were in. I agree that it may not be the best method for some users, but it's nothing new for Canon.
HELP!!!! My Canon 90D shooting Raw uncompressed and Base ISO is very noisy. Lens Sigma 18-35 Art F/1.8 what’s happening? If anyone has any information I would be grateful thanks.
Shooting with a canon 70-200mm f2.8 (Version 1) and Canon 90d...and man oh man its missing focus and when it finally hits, its soooo soft!! Is it possible the lens is too old? Is this a thing? The exact same lens worked sooo good with my 80d! SEND HELP! lol
I only have the leftmost 4 icons at the top of my menu screen, the rightmost being the wrench icon, so I can't do the face detection fix. Any ideas? Do I need to download new firmware? If so, how do I do that?
never mind i figured it out.
I’m noticing when I use the viewfinder I get soft af, just about every shot. When I use the screen I get sharp af. I know they use different focusing systems... is there a fix for this problem. I tried step one of this vid and it wasn’t it.
Did you try micro-adjusting the focus? You can calibrate the OVF to focus better.
Thank you for this very nearly got rid of the camera
Awesome as I have been struggling coming off my 7D MK II.
but would it really improve focusing on something like wildlife? Sounds like the focus tracking is more or less the same as the 80D and some reviewers have tried different settings already...
Of course it would. It’s searching for facial patterns and giving them priority over everything else. I mention this in the video and even posted my retesting percentages.
@@MMaven but does it exceed the live view AF or that of the M6 Mark II. I would like to see more tests on moving wildlife and compared to competitors.
Frank Lin M6ii buffet is about 19 raw images, 1.3 seconds. It’s about 3 in jpeg. At 14fps the buffer can’t handle it. There are different reasons to go with optical vf over EVF or back monitor when shooting sports. I’ll try to get some tests
very important for me
Quick question. I have been shooting JPEG and I have it set on large 32mb but when I up load and see the file size it’s only 8-10 MBs... is this correct??
Também acho estranho !
I do not have an orange button, I have the 90D, the AF-ON says it cannot turn on, I am so frustrated. I wish I can do what you are recommending. I want to fix these problems, but do not know how. I have just joined the fb page. and will comment there. thank you,
same here. no orange menu. any updates?
Fixed my problem
Thanks so much for this Michael. I just purchased a 90D in mid March and immediately turned the ITR off. What I find frustrating now like many others is on high speed burst mode the camera seems to sputter and falter. A buffer too small appears to be the explanation. I don’t know if there is a work around for this.
Are you shooting in JPEG with a high performance card?
Hi Michael, I am shooting Large JPG with a Lexar High-Performance Blue Series card. Although this morning it was working much better, no hiccups at all. I will do some more tests with it. One more thing, I am shooting with a Tamron 18-400 zoom. I am getting some remarkably sharp images with it. More so than with my 80D. Take a look at my recent posts.
Thanks for the speedy reply.
Sometimes the Lexar cards can glitch up but usually the high speed ones are ok.
How I solve, tokina 11-16 autofocus
So should we invest in 90d
How to solve Auto focus problem in 4k video shooting ????????
Thanks Michael you just talked me out of buy this camera, sound like quite a few issues. This was 2019, its now 2021 dont know if any of this got fixed by canon ?
No!
Compre a RP e seja feliz em foco e cores!
Hi sir, I have a canon 80D with 18-135mm IS USM Lens. It struggles to focus in low light even with af assist beam firing on. Very often it ends up in out of the focus images. I noticed it recently. It was good earlier. However it works like a dream in bright light. Is there a fix for this drawback?
Your lens. If you are looking for solid low-light shooting then you need an f-stop of 2.0 or less. I have a prime that is 1.4 and a sigma 18-35 that is 1.8 through the range. However, your focal point will be very narrow. You have to find that sweet spot and it will work like magic with the right lens.
@@brandonb.288 or you could adjust the iso range up a bit
I need help with a current problem with my Canon 90D. It has happened once or twice before that when I am putting on my 18-135mm lens it gets jammed in the camera and I am having a hard time getting it out. At first I thought it was not inserted properly but I am pretty sure that is not the case. I have placed the lens properly and still right now it is currently jammed. What I notice is that the only time I can take it out ( and hardly) is to play around with my lens and zooming it in and out a few times until the lens budges and loosens up a bit and eventually get it out. It is a challenge and I would like to ask anybody here who may know why this is happening and how to fix it? Thanks.
Ignore my previous question. I did not have one of the custom positions selected.
Great video, what camera and lens combo were you using to film this?
I typically use an A7iii with face tracking for the stuff I shoot in my living room- But it looks like it’s about to change
@@MMaven yeah it was struggling a little.
Did you shoot this video on the 90D? Your focus was going in and out of blurry. I shot an interview today and had the same issue. Is there a fix for it besides going manual? Thanks for making these videos they are very helpful :).
A Video Design it was A7iii and I had the focus square in the wrong place. It was my fault lol
A Video Design go with face detection in video mode for these kinds of videos - it’s solid
Hi Michael - love your video on the EOS90D - I kept watching but unless I missed it, I cannot see how I can obtain the grey screen with vertical stripes in the LCD touchscreen when you first power up. Can you help me out here please. I thought that function was very useful. TIA
Are you talking about pushing the info button? I have a free tutorial on the 90D here: ua-cam.com/video/d2yZSLmEUAk/v-deo.html
@@MMaven Hi Michael - thanks for your reply. I came to this video because I thought I'd get the answer by watching it but I did watch the other video (the one I referred to in my question) to see if I could find the answer. I powered up my 90D and on the LCD screen get a picture of what is in front of the lens unlike what you appear top get, a grey screen with vertical lines. That's the screen I'd like to get but have been unable to - can you help me with this please?
@@paullucas9221 Do you mean my blinds?
@@MMaven Yes, Michael - just that! Great description!
@@MMaven Hi Michael - feel so stupid now!! Finally dawned on me that it was how the camera was set up on the tripod, lens cap off . . . . . . duh!! Thank you.
Hi Michael,
I am about to buy the Canon EOS 90D. In your opinion, is there a better Canon APS-C camera than this one?
Thanks a lot in advance!!!
Canon APSC? Better? No- 90D is the best in my opinion. I do like the M50 too, but more value in the 90D
@@MMaven How about Nikon D500 if switching brands isn't an issue? Wildlife and BIF being the primary type of photography kept in mind.
Michael thank you so much for this info Bro .....My 90d is focusing better. Canon shame on you for not having Micheal part of your development team : )
Lol right? Most camera companies hate me but if they realize what I could do for them I could be a full-time camera consultant I think 😂😂
HI Michael i did get a chance to shoot with my 90D at the Chicago Marathon i think this camera is capable of shooting sports events with ease : ) Also i was able to get great results using my Tamron 70-200 F2.8 vc G1 lens with excellent Results .
What about in burst mode through the viewfinder? People are saying it's not as accurate as in liveview
Literally because of what I mentioned in this video. Please watch carefully
@@MMaven i watched it all, but do you think the iTR can really cause that?
Something I just found out: 4K Timelapses are recorded in "ALL-I" compression while regular recording in 4K and 1080p is "IPB" compression. Have you run into this yet?
That sounds about right all I basically means the frame is compressed individually so what’s happening is for the time lapses is taking individual frames and converted into a video
@@MMaven Oh okay, thank you for the explanation!
90d vs RP which is better for an upgrade for a T6I?😂 for photography and video
RP em foco e cores ! Já vídeo a 90D é melhor !
can you tell me why Canon chanched the Cr2 in a Cr3 extention. The problem is that you can not see the Cr3 preview thumbnails in Windows like before in the Cr2. I can't also open the Cr3 files in Lightroom like the Cr2 before. Why Why Why Canon chanched that? Now I must convert the Cr3 files first with a DNR converter. Do you know WHY? Nobody can tell me. Can you tell my? You can leave a reaction at my Facebook (name ) in messenger.
Focus probl. With tamron 100-400mm & canon 18-135mm. AF corrections with the eos90d fully ineffective. A workaround (not a solution) is setting OFF all the lens correction parameters. Then the AF microadj are correctly working. Canon and Tamron service gave no help on this .
Bom saber !
Hey man, so iv had to watch this again just to make sure i was testing correctly,
you have most likely seen my last video as im on the FB group.
I have had my iTR turned of the whole time and it hasn't resolved the problem for me sadly 🙄
Do you see it for non moving subjects as well? Are you able to recreate the circumstances of the missed shots? Without a way to recreate the circumstances it’ll be tough for me to try to help you trouble shoot. I know some users in the group are getting it working correctly, so I’m not ready to label it as a camera only problem. If we can recreate the issue, I’ll make a video about it & canon likely would address it. Without that, they will likely assume user error / lenses.
I’m Also assuming you have micro adjusted you lenses as well.
Michael The Maven yes I had the problem with a deer who was standing still, I showed it in my latest video, the images would catch focus then go out on each photo and suddenly back in again. Sadly I can’t recreate it now as I don’t have the camera. And yes I had my lens set to -14
CJamesPhoto I’ve not seen the tracking issue for non moving subjects. Sounds like something else was going on.
Curious though, it sounds like you aren’t shooting with the 90D anymore. Are you getting another one? If not why the interest at this point?
Hi don't think your link for fb is working?
It seems to be working please join us thank you
I was unable to get Focus bracketing. What am I doing wrong??? I shoot Macro
Are you in live view?
Canon iTR has been in their cameras for years. It is standard practice to disable it for action photography.
really ?
I do only bird photography.I am was using 80D. 3 days agon i brought 90d. But 90d is out of my control yet :(. I cant take sharp photos at all. :((
Só conseguir com obturador eletrônico mas muito limitado !
I do not think Adobe has the Camera Profiles for the 90D yet. You can use the "Adobe Profiles" but not the "Camera Profiles" This is why there is still a huge difference.
Hi Maven Is there similar thingy in Nikon iTR?
Please suggest does it exist in Nikon?
Its there, it's called 3D Tracking. Actually it's know to be very good, at least as per the reviewers
I came home from a forest and i was convinced i took at least a few good shots... and guess what .. deleted them all... I am new to this camera and also to canon.. worked with Olympus, Nikon, Sony.. wtf.jpeg all my forest shots where out of focus.. focus was on a random leaf or branch. I am used to photograph super fast and never ever have I had this issue b4..
Hi. Would you use spot focus or single point point for sharp action photos and also what would your JPEG sharpness settings be for the sharpest SOOC JPEG files. I’ve tested the 90D today before buying it and I was quite dissapointed in the results with my canon 70-200 F2,8 combo. All the photos was taken at default jpeg settings with single spot focus and high speed continues and it were softer than my 70D combo and needed more than the usual post sharpening resulting in noise . Other than that I’ve enjoyed the 90d , however due to the soft photos I am in two minds between the 90d and 7d2 to replace my water damaged 70d
Try a zone square cluster with itr turned off
3:11 Silver bullet?
Do you disable the optical focus only for sports or all the time? Bought the 90D (upgraded from T3i) I have lots to learn!
Are use the optical focusing for sports in almost everything else I use the live view monitor and that’s what makes the 90s such a great hybrid Camera- it can do both very well
*I have a definitive solution for the 90D, let Canon remake it from scratch!!*
Color profile mismatch was present even before 90D, goes way back to canon 400D era
The focusing issue is real. I used a 1 point AF dead on the center using the viewfinder. 5 out of 5 the image is not in focus. When I used the live view same 1 point AF in the center, 5 out of 5 the image is crisp and sharp. Using 18-35 1.8 sigma. When using zone AF at the center, as long as the focusing points selected is not the one point in the center at the time of focusing(half-press) then the image will be sharp. Also if using a one point AF and you select any point but the one in dead center, image likewise will be sharp. I think the issue here is that one focusing point right at the very center. In Live view mode, this is not applicable maybe because the one point in live view has a bigger square (looks more like a zone af) than that in viewfinder. Do this experiment and find out for yourself.
Não usar o visor não têm graça!
That is a very interesting observation. I will test this out
Well... wish I had found this video before returning my newly purchased 90d which I believe was not focusing on intended subjects due to the ITR being enabled! The camera was driving me insane even using single point or spot focus. It was all over the place. Brought it back to the dealer and they pulled another new one out of the box and it did the same thing. The staff member could not get focused images of almost anything in the store. Even stopping it down by changing the aperture from say, 3.5 to 16 made zero difference in the focus depth. He pointed the camera with an 18-55mm kit lens at a wall of product, got focus confirmation and not one thing in the image was clear. Not sure what the camera is attempting to focus on with this feature enabled but this is a big issue that in my opinion renders ITR useless for anything I would be doing.
There is also a real possibility the new 32.5 MP sensor is out resolving certain lenses. Basically means they are not sharp enough for the MP is has. It is lens dependent.
@@MMaven This could be... We tried multiple lenses on the body, Tamron 24-70mm f2.8, Canon 70-200mm IS 2.8, Canon 24-70mm 2.8, Canon 10-18mm EFS, Canon 55-250mm EFS STM Kit. The shop staff member tried two kit lenses, an 18-55 and something else I didn't pay attention to because I had lost all interest in the camera at that point. All the lenses of course performed as expected with good focus on older camera bodies such as the T7i so I just ordered one to replace the 90D because I could not keep apologizing to my colleagues for turning in soft focus event photos. It was very frustrating and I hope they release some info on the camera to assist folks like me with using the thing. All the issues I had came up whether I was in Live view or using the Optical Viewfinder to take shots. I thought the thing was back or front focusing randomly so I tried micro adjustments for each lens and of course that would make you crazy because it would just focus on what seemed to be random things or perhaps nothing at all.
I did email the dealer last night to have them try using the camera with ITR disabled so we could find out if that resolved the autofocus issue. I've not yet heard back so hopefully they will do that soon.
At the last event i shot with the camera, I resorted to Manual focusing on moving subjects and got way better results!