That's a different melody for Lost Lady Found that Granger set in Lincolnshire Posy, But all the others are quite fascinating to hear, knowing Grainger's band piece for so many years.
If you listen closely, you can hear that the rhythms are similar, if not the same, as Lincolnshire Posy. I do find it interesting that Grainger didn’t keep the original melody, though
Thank you very much. I was in the early stages of making a similar video, except that I planned to append each field recording with Grainger's own transcription - a "what Grainger did with it". Having now seen this excellent anthology, I'll think of something else...
These are amazing. Two things: 1) What freaking dialect is the singer of "Lisbon" singing in? 2) That's not the melody of "The Lost Lady Found" that Grainger set. What's up with that?
The "Lisbon" singer was practically dead by the time Grainger was able to record him. He was a VERY old man, and was laid up in a hospital bed after having fallen down some stairs. Read "A Source Guide to the Music of Percy Grainger" by Thomas P. Lewis.
Something to take into account in Lost Lady Found is even though it’s not the melody, it does sound strikingly similar to a horn/sax part that occurs in the middle of the movement.
The transcription of "Lisbon" in the video is a bit confused. It rather seems as if Mr. Deene sings different lyrics to the usual ones, and starts in the middle of the song. Maybe, being an old man, he rearranged it in his own way, which could make it even more interesting. :) Piecing together bits of the passed-on lyrics, I guess the following transcription comes closer, although the verses in brackets are still not correct...but I guess in some places, it suits reasonably well. Maybe someone is interested in getting it properly written down. A wonderful document, and a very interesting video, of course! "[Your pretty little fingers, they are both long and small, Your waist it is too slender to face the cannonball,]“ The wind did from the southwest blow, for Lisbon we were bound, That I should have to leave her, unto some foreign land She said, "My dearest William, these words will break my heart, Let you and I be married, love, before that you do part." "[For ten long weeks and better I've been with child by thee,] So stay at home, dear William, be kind and marry me."
Grainger recorded several versions of several of the songs - apparently there was an LP released of the recordings -neither words nor music were standardised even in Lincolnshire let alone the rest of the UK.
I get that the audio is old... but was it really necessary to emphasize that by making those still background images shake up and down like that? It's a bit nauseating
Does anyone know what the origins of these recordings are? Were they made by Grainger himself, or did he notate the songs without recording them? Are they of the same singers Grainger listened to?
Absolutely positive it was an Edison cylinder machine. Easiest thing for him to use at the time. Keep in mind, he collected these folk songs in the early 1900s, between 1906 and 1908.
It's so interesting how grainger set not only the thematic material, but the individuals who sang the melodies.
That's a different melody for Lost Lady Found that Granger set in Lincolnshire Posy, But all the others are quite fascinating to hear, knowing Grainger's band piece for so many years.
It's the same tune as has been used for Sweet Betsy from Pike!
If you listen closely, you can hear that the rhythms are similar, if not the same, as Lincolnshire Posy. I do find it interesting that Grainger didn’t keep the original melody, though
Thank you very much. I was in the early stages of making a similar video, except that I planned to append each field recording with Grainger's own transcription - a "what Grainger did with it". Having now seen this excellent anthology, I'll think of something else...
These are chillingly creepy, but really cool.
Thinking the exact samething
These are amazing.
Two things:
1) What freaking dialect is the singer of "Lisbon" singing in?
2) That's not the melody of "The Lost Lady Found" that Grainger set. What's up with that?
The "Lisbon" singer was practically dead by the time Grainger was able to record him. He was a VERY old man, and was laid up in a hospital bed after having fallen down some stairs.
Read "A Source Guide to the Music of Percy Grainger" by Thomas P. Lewis.
You're quite right. Grainger uses the tune often known as Green Bushes. This is the tune of Villikins and Dinah.
Something to take into account in Lost Lady Found is even though it’s not the melody, it does sound strikingly similar to a horn/sax part that occurs in the middle of the movement.
So fascinating.
The transcription of "Lisbon" in the video is a bit confused. It rather seems as if Mr. Deene sings different lyrics to the usual ones, and starts in the middle of the song. Maybe, being an old man, he rearranged it in his own way, which could make it even more interesting. :) Piecing together bits of the passed-on lyrics, I guess the following transcription comes closer, although the verses in brackets are still not correct...but I guess in some places, it suits reasonably well. Maybe someone is interested in getting it properly written down. A wonderful document, and a very interesting video, of course!
"[Your pretty little fingers, they are both long and small,
Your waist it is too slender to face the cannonball,]“
The wind did from the southwest blow, for Lisbon we were bound,
That I should have to leave her, unto some foreign land
She said, "My dearest William, these words will break my heart,
Let you and I be married, love, before that you do part."
"[For ten long weeks and better I've been with child by thee,]
So stay at home, dear William, be kind and marry me."
Grainger recorded several versions of several of the songs - apparently there was an LP released of the recordings -neither words nor music were standardised even in Lincolnshire let alone the rest of the UK.
Rob Williamson yea of course, but i think its nice to transcribe what you hear in this specific recording :)
Super! Thanks!!!
Good luck sleeping tonight y'all
Are these the recordings of the singers that Grainger first recorded?
Yes
Why is there no information about Brisk Young Sailor anywhere?
It’s Lincolnshire
I get that the audio is old... but was it really necessary to emphasize that by making those still background images shake up and down like that? It's a bit nauseating
is this in a different language?? is this Gaelic????????
No it’s lincolnshire
No it’s Lincolnshire
Does anyone know what the origins of these recordings are? Were they made by Grainger himself, or did he notate the songs without recording them? Are they of the same singers Grainger listened to?
You sure it was an edison recorder? wouldn't those be obsolete by the time Grainger went to record them?
Absolutely positive it was an Edison cylinder machine. Easiest thing for him to use at the time.
Keep in mind, he collected these folk songs in the early 1900s, between 1906 and 1908.
@@rareblues78daddy false. It was a phonograph
@@Lukas-oy1dp we need some sources up in here y'all we can't be doing this
Yo this shit is so unsettling. Especially a brisk young sailor