Dear Rabbit: Stop Threatening 14 Year Olds

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  • Опубліковано 4 тра 2024
  • After seeing how awful the Rabbit R1 and Humane AI Pin were, I knew I'd have to talk about it.
    When I saw how brain dead Jesse was, I realized it was time.
    I'm so sorry to put you all through this.
    SOURCES
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    • Rabbit R1 on phone
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    / 1786037498507853852
    Edited by Ph4se0n3
  • Наука та технологія

КОМЕНТАРІ • 613

  • @sekerhalithamza
    @sekerhalithamza Місяць тому +889

    AI is in it's Juicero era

    • @TomNook.
      @TomNook. Місяць тому +11

      Prime said this

    • @user-hl7ic7wc1r
      @user-hl7ic7wc1r Місяць тому +68

      ​@@TomNook.* The verge wrote it and prime read it.

    • @Greeem
      @Greeem Місяць тому +19

      @@monad_tcp so you know what it is. why ask what it is

    • @Adrot
      @Adrot Місяць тому +4

      ​@@monad_tcpAnd you failed.

    • @Florian_Kiel
      @Florian_Kiel 29 днів тому

      LOL

  • @JohnMcclaned
    @JohnMcclaned Місяць тому +1192

    hardware gpt4 wrappers are wild

    • @dingus1720
      @dingus1720 Місяць тому +143

      according to the r1 though, it's not even gpt-4, it's a fine-tuned gpt-3 lmao

    • @Emayeah
      @Emayeah Місяць тому

      @@dingus1720 LMAOOOOOOOO they don't even have the money for gpt4 and they market it with complex words to make it look like it is powerful
      this is truly a snake oil salesman moment

    • @firstnamelastname2971
      @firstnamelastname2971 Місяць тому +13

      Absolutely savage

    • @rethardotv5874
      @rethardotv5874 Місяць тому +16

      @@dingus1720gpt4 costs 10 times as much as gpt3

    • @ccash3290
      @ccash3290 Місяць тому

      ​@@rethardotv5874the gpt3 API is $0.50 vs $10 gpt 4 per 1 million tokens. For an enterprise company openai can sell them a server for unlimited usage.

  • @aenguswright7336
    @aenguswright7336 Місяць тому +479

    I mean, the CEO literally says if you read between the lines, “this product could exist as an app, but if we did it as an app, someone else could too, and then we couldn’t force everyone to use us”

    • @sarthak-ti
      @sarthak-ti Місяць тому +57

      They’re literally a gpt4 wrapper. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s an app that already does it better

    • @MEHLOW
      @MEHLOW 29 днів тому

      @@sarthak-tishare an app that’s better, then without having to pay ai subscription.

    • @incription
      @incription 29 днів тому

      there is, but like you said, a gpt4 wrapper will always be as bad as gpt4, which means you will always get hallucinations and stuff@@sarthak-ti

    • @ReigoVassal
      @ReigoVassal 26 днів тому +9

      So they want complete monopoly. Got it

    • @neolordie
      @neolordie 26 днів тому

      Every company want monopoly duh, the only reason Microsoft isn't one in multiple industries is because they can't just buy everything without prior agreement with countries and such​@@ReigoVassal

  • @WyrdieBeardie
    @WyrdieBeardie Місяць тому +314

    If we only had some rectangular device, with a camera... No, a camera for forwards and one backwards... With a speaker AND a microphone... Yeah... And a screen... No... No wait... A TOUCHSCREEN!!! And can communicate ✨ wirelessly ✨
    With sensors that can detect shaking and stuff...
    And runs android!
    Where else are you going to get all that?!

    • @Soraking007
      @Soraking007 28 днів тому +45

      Truely a device does not exist. Thank goodness these clowns made one! Praise rabbit!

    • @tezcanaslan2877
      @tezcanaslan2877 18 днів тому +21

      On the craig tablet from cashies

    • @mattplays3824
      @mattplays3824 14 днів тому +4

      Wow! This is SUCH a great idea! Thank you rabbit for totally being the first to do this!!!! 😊😊

    • @TheCommanderTaco
      @TheCommanderTaco 10 днів тому +2

      And a button on the side to raise or lower the volumes...no wait a complicated amount of movements because we want to save people time.

    • @lady.foxpoint
      @lady.foxpoint 10 днів тому +4

      ​​@@tezcanaslan2877oh mate.. at this point we just gotta understand the old mate craig is leagues above everyone else
      it's not surprising they have made it! AND to top it all off a cool blue disc with the silver ring around it

  • @fake172
    @fake172 Місяць тому +730

    "I don't think its worth shaming for using android as a starting point.... because they have soo much other stuff that we can make fun of."

    • @DryPaperHammerBro
      @DryPaperHammerBro Місяць тому +17

      Look, the AOSP is there for folk to fuck with, and thus, it's fine to start with it

    • @ilonachan
      @ilonachan 29 днів тому +36

      It's fine to use as a starting point, but it's embarrassing if you literally don't go beyond that in any way whatsoever while pretending you are.

    • @kenzie4217
      @kenzie4217 28 днів тому +24

      ​​@@ilonachan Agree. It's moreso the fact that they're pretending it's different. Like it's literally just a small android box that can only run a single app, and if wanna run more than 1. Prepared to get harassed... Just call it what it is.

    • @TheCommanderTaco
      @TheCommanderTaco 10 днів тому +1

      Feel he said it best with going over the Marquis stuff " we want something that hasn't been done before".
      Asides from accepting criticism and having good PR. Humane at least has a reason to need their hardware to get the full experience ( assuming things worked as intended). You ( at least not yet) can't get a laser projection working from your phone, and as a wearable it should save you time without having to go through a screen, and if you need a screen for something lol.

  • @TempoFino
    @TempoFino Місяць тому +477

    Remove the scroll wheel and enable the touch screen and it becomes a phone. 2024, start up reinvents the phone.

    • @hrdcpy
      @hrdcpy Місяць тому +41

      That would have been a better plan. Market it as a hybrid dumb phone in the sense that it is not optimized for social media and content consumption yet could cover basic phone features.

    • @TempoFino
      @TempoFino Місяць тому +5

      @@hrdcpy Even better, market it as a kids toy.

    • @murk959
      @murk959 Місяць тому

      That's a great idea
      Many people try to download minimalistic apps towards social media or add ad blockers where instead they could just have a phone without any pre-built apps and social media​
      Like the iPod for kids without the sim card option and without social media @@hrdcpy

    • @sp123
      @sp123 Місяць тому +14

      ​@@TempoFinoA $200 toy is a hard sell

    • @firstnamelastname2971
      @firstnamelastname2971 Місяць тому +4

      hardware gpt4 wrappers are wild

  • @TheLolz404
    @TheLolz404 Місяць тому +211

    I really hope people realize the company that didn't secure their own server endpoints probably is not good at protecting any of the data you are sending it.

    • @moamber1
      @moamber1 26 днів тому +6

      That's why we don't trust Google, Facebook, etc.

    • @dizzylilthing
      @dizzylilthing 5 днів тому

      to be fair, I just don't know what that is. I think people tend to forget there are a lot of us who just don't know these things. for the most part I just kind of have to have faith when I'm dealing with technology because I'm not going to understand what everything means. granted I never believed that this was at all realistic but even if I did and I tried to do my due diligence there's a good chance I wouldn't know to look for that. I don't know anything about steam or windows but I use them.

    • @TheLolz404
      @TheLolz404 5 днів тому

      ​@@moamber1 I do not trust Microsoft or Google but to function I have to utilize their services. As for Facebook Instagram and the other wonderful social media giants I have not had them for years. They are just ad machines. Choose wisely what you give your information to is the point.

  • @blar2112
    @blar2112 25 днів тому +67

    If your "device" functionality can be replicated with an app then you dont have a device, you have a gatekeeped app.

  • @slob5041
    @slob5041 Місяць тому +241

    Tony Fadell, the inventor of the iPod said in his book that he won't even look at the hardware of a startup until he's convinced it can't be done any other way.

    • @pikkyuukyuun4741
      @pikkyuukyuun4741 28 днів тому +8

      werent there plenty of options when it came to music players back then. seems like there were plenty of other ways. that quote kinda comes off snobbish ngl

    • @TimeLemur6
      @TimeLemur6 28 днів тому +17

      @@wojtek-33 Creative wasn't exactly a startup. I'm no Apple fan, but I think his point still stands; hardware startups are most likely in search of a problem.

    • @whydoineedagoogleplusaccou442
      @whydoineedagoogleplusaccou442 23 дні тому

      @@wojtek-33 that was a BS software patent on hierarchical menus on MP3 players. how else would you make an MP3 player UI?

    • @clementpoon120
      @clementpoon120 10 днів тому

      @@pikkyuukyuun4741 apple isn't a startup though

  • @dstick14
    @dstick14 Місяць тому +102

    "Cloud Verification" === "Checking your user agent"

    • @monad_tcp
      @monad_tcp Місяць тому +22

      "R1" hardware == checking your device serial number for a thing that should have been an App

  • @mx338
    @mx338 Місяць тому +111

    The same critique would still apply, if they built the Rabbit R1 on top of embedded Linux, or if they built "RabbitOS" from scratch entirely. It could still just be an Android App, there's no reason to create extra e-waste for this.

    • @bnorrish
      @bnorrish Місяць тому +9

      But then you have to give Google all your codes...

    • @CorsaMaster
      @CorsaMaster 29 днів тому +2

      That's now how it works

    • @TriflingToad
      @TriflingToad 10 днів тому +2

      @@bnorrish what?

  • @davidwhatever9041
    @davidwhatever9041 Місяць тому +64

    I had the misfortune of working for a manager who was very much like this CEO. He had a background in technical sales and was 'that' kind of salesman... you know the ones who only care about closing a sale... with not a care about whether what they sold is deliverable. Some people seem to constantly be recreating a reality that was good for them and then gaslighting everyone and themselves into believing it. The ones you mean in employment have amazing manipulation skills, seem to be shameless and incapable of learning from their mistakes....pp In the case of my manager, he had got the company to invest millions into an app, putting the business into serious financial problems, for an app that was a wrapper over opensource and barely better than a proof of concept prototype....
    the lessons i remembered from this, never work for a manager or a small company owned by someone with a sales background.... And most importantly buy anything from a business that engages in gaslighting marketing techniques like rabbit...

    • @monad_tcp
      @monad_tcp Місяць тому +13

      My life lesson is : never trust sales person, they're paid to lie.
      I only trust word that come from the engineers (whenever I buy product I try to find the engineering manuals for details or even talk to the engineers).

  • @28holes
    @28holes 12 днів тому +14

    After the recent Coffeezilla video exposing the "LAM AI" as just some ChatGPT scripts along with Playwright, an existing non-AI browser scripting tool, this looks even worse on their part. What a disaster.

  • @SammyForReal
    @SammyForReal Місяць тому +157

    About the first point. I think that people arent making fun of it because haha "funny crappy android app they are so bad" but because this whole device is useless and easily could have been a paid app in your phone. Especially considering all its weaknesses (like being not performant on this weak hardware), this whole idea of an extra device just seems pointless.
    Now, you made the example of e.g. your camera also running android. Or the human AI Pin. But for those two, I'd argue it does make sense having an extra device. Because they all have something your phone doesnt. E.g. an extra OP camera with a lens and such or an projector, etc.

    • @shamringo7438
      @shamringo7438 Місяць тому +29

      Exactly. The main problem is that the Rabbit app works with 100% compatibility with an Android phone. This is the reason the R1 is a laughing stock
      If your app requires specialized hardware (or unique enough that a phone doesn't have it) to get it working, then it doesn't matter even if it runs Android.
      Like an Android TV box, I can extract all the apks and install it on a phone. It will run, but the experience sucks because your phone doesn't have an HDMI port, nor does it come with a TV remote.
      By the way I just rolled my eyes with this LAM bullshit. I bet this is just some system message telling the AI what actions it can do, with the actions have to be manually coded in. Something the regular ChatGPT 4 can already do.

    • @LoneWanderer905
      @LoneWanderer905 Місяць тому +14

      Let's not forget the Rabbit also has terrible battery, and being an app, it would at least last as long as your phone.

    • @rigen97
      @rigen97 Місяць тому +1

      @@shamringo7438 The LAM was supposed to be like "universal API" to communicate with apps without modifying the apps themselves.

    • @shamringo7438
      @shamringo7438 Місяць тому +5

      @@rigen97 I highly doubt they are doing that at all. If they are doing this right now then why is it only right now limited to 4 “apps”?
      If it’s truly universal it should be able to use a lot more services than just those 4. Heck, it should be able to google search a timer to add a timer functionality. No, I strongly believe this is just some system message for GPT that triggers Spotify’s API, or Midjourney’s API, etc.

    • @rigen97
      @rigen97 Місяць тому +4

      @@shamringo7438 shrug, that's what they _wanted_ it to be. they clearly talk big. we knew from their past project that they knew how to make things sounds plausible and then just...not do it.

  • @LWatson
    @LWatson Місяць тому +49

    “Hopping back and forward and suddenly the name rabbit makes sense” 😂😂

  • @hermitgreenn
    @hermitgreenn 13 днів тому +8

    The trend that really bothers me is people treating companies like they're their friends. "Oh it's okay it's their first product, give them some slack". NO. As a customer that bought a product that promises functionality you are in your right to expect that functionality.

  • @throwaway3227
    @throwaway3227 Місяць тому +44

    Electron is not a good thing. Apps leaking a lot of memory (especially commit size, which is a huge issue on Windows), and separate runtimes with developers of each individual application being responsible for updates, which means that a vulnerability in Electron is a huge issue. This is a problem with browsers too, of course, but they are a lot better at pushing out updates when ACE vulnerabilities are found. This gets extra scary when people write chat applications, where you can push exploits without user interaction, and use Electron.
    /IT security specialist who is stuck on Windows and sick of having to pay for RAM sticks, just to literally be idle for "committed memory"

    • @john.darksoul
      @john.darksoul 29 днів тому +15

      Electron is one of the worst things that ever happened to desktop imo

    • @arnabbiswasalsodeep
      @arnabbiswasalsodeep 28 днів тому +4

      the only good thing ive ever found of electron without ever being in web development is that is for some home automation or game that has html, launching via electron is much easier.

    • @KiraSlith
      @KiraSlith 13 днів тому

      I have to wonder what apps people are using that do this, I've used a grand total of 3 electron-based apps and none if them leak like that.

    • @hgbugalou
      @hgbugalou 13 днів тому +1

      Agree. I hate electron. Its lazy development.

    • @Interpause
      @Interpause 11 днів тому +1

      what do yall think of tauri tho

  • @sleepingcattv
    @sleepingcattv Місяць тому +42

    I‘ve been following „AI“ developments for a while now and there were some really cool projects i tried. One i vividly remember was a project from Facebook Labs where it could take a single picture and make a 3D model from it. Impressive stuff!
    Nowadays every „AI“ is just the same API from OpenAI with a fancy skin on it. It’s disappointing and frustrating.
    With the Facebook Model thingy it was an actual engineer behind it who put his heart into the project. Actually when i posted the results i got from running his algorithm to twitter he liked my post pretty much right away.
    I want to see cool innovative projects like that again, not everyone packaging an API and calling it a day

    • @ten-faced-carrot
      @ten-faced-carrot 28 днів тому

      Yeah ikr? There's so many exciting things AI can do, contrary to what apparently everyone is thinking, AI doesn't mean to just get some text from ChatGPT lol

    • @justinwatson1510
      @justinwatson1510 25 днів тому +3

      Contrary to what is commonly repeated, capitalism doesn't reward innovation. If you want to see more passion projects, join a communist party and help build an economy that will give people enough free time to pursue their passion projects.

    • @sleepingcattv
      @sleepingcattv 25 днів тому +2

      @@justinwatson1510 i mean yeah, you are right on that one. sadly there is no communist party in my country, and it doesn't seem we'll get a UBI any time soon

    • @shinyrayquaza9
      @shinyrayquaza9 12 днів тому +1

      I think the issue is big ceo man sees ai is the hip new trend and wants to hop on it but ooga booga spend money bad, use openAI

    • @deadturret4049
      @deadturret4049 4 дні тому

      Facebook/Meta has been doing some crazy stuff with their computer vision tech tbh.

  • @Illandren
    @Illandren Місяць тому +52

    I've watched several of these kind of videos, but this is the one that made me cancel my order.

    • @daqwan
      @daqwan 25 днів тому +1

      I've watched several of these kind of videos, but this is the one that made me regret my order. (Too late to cancel I already have it)

    • @jasonjennings8465
      @jasonjennings8465 24 дні тому

      You can cancel orders? I am batch 6. Was still kind of excited, but this just really annoys me too much.

    • @daqwan
      @daqwan 24 дні тому

      @@jasonjennings8465 i mean i have my device I was batch 1

    • @daqwan
      @daqwan 24 дні тому

      it does work as a good toy for kids so my nieces' and nephews like it

    • @alexrogers777
      @alexrogers777 23 дні тому

      based

  • @adamsavard535
    @adamsavard535 Місяць тому +103

    CEO seems like they don't actually understand the tech and all they want is some sort of patent/to sell to some other company.

    • @No-you-are-wrong-stop-LARPing
      @No-you-are-wrong-stop-LARPing Місяць тому

      The left creates nothing and understands nothing. Full on parasites.

    • @habilterserah4075
      @habilterserah4075 Місяць тому +3

      they sell nft too

    • @thewhitefalcon8539
      @thewhitefalcon8539 29 днів тому +6

      They understand marketing. People get more invested in physical devices.

    • @neolordie
      @neolordie 26 днів тому +4

      That's actually a lot of companies business plan, build something that will get you bought up by one of the big tech corporations

  • @kwisatzsawyer
    @kwisatzsawyer Місяць тому +14

    I suspect the real reasons for releasing the hardware and not the app is to:
    1. Get more money and hype from a physical AI device.
    2. Avoid paying 30% of subscriptions / usage fees once they have to pay for their clunky LAM system.

  • @orbatos
    @orbatos 19 днів тому +9

    A correction. OS/2 was not an experimental joint project it was a multitasking operating system that also hosted Win 3.1 and DOS applications natively. While it did die off it was mostly due to cost as you were also buying a Windows licence. After 4 major versions it saw lots of use on non-consumer systems where stability was important.

    • @theodorgiosan2570
      @theodorgiosan2570 9 днів тому +1

      Still even sees use today. I encountered POS systems using it in 2016 which are probably still running today and now I see industrial machinery running it in 2024. But of course I see industrial machinery running CP/M in 2024 as well so there's tons of old stuff out there. Somewhere in one of the stairwells of my father's old office building, on the 5th floor, there is an Altair 8800 running a rooftop weather station that has been operational since the 1970s (the campus has its own power plant and is not on grid power, so the 8800 has presumably been running since the 1970s).

  • @TomNook.
    @TomNook. Місяць тому +41

    There is no shame in using AOSP for the underlying architecture for your new product. It has software for the screen, wireless connections, touch...why bother reinventing the wheel?

    • @iuse9646
      @iuse9646 Місяць тому

      Agreed

    • @pierrotA
      @pierrotA Місяць тому +15

      Then why reinventing the smartphone ?
      I think it's the point of the video: if it run on Android, on a cubic object with a touchscreen, then why not make an app ?

    • @mojoxide
      @mojoxide 5 днів тому

      Yup, that’s exactly what he says in the video.

  • @bpadres
    @bpadres 29 днів тому +14

    When I saw this video on Sunday, I immediately submitted for an RMA to return my Rabbit R1. I received a response Monday morning stating: "Your email is important to us, and we want to ensure that we address your inquiry promptly. Our team is working diligently to provide you with the assistance you need." ... As of late Wednesday, no RMA or any other information has been provided. IMO it should not take longer than 24 hours to provide an RMA to return a device. It will be interesting to see how long it takes or if I will get one at all.

    • @bpadres
      @bpadres 28 днів тому

      This gets deep. In 2018 Bidu and Teenage Engineering released a similar project with Jesse Lyu (working at Bidu). Look up The Raven H. It’s a real thing!

    • @Josh1EWawa
      @Josh1EWawa 9 днів тому +1

      Any updates?

  • @TomNook.
    @TomNook. Місяць тому +35

    More proof (Elizabeth Holmes, Web3, NFTs, anyone) that scammers have strong sway over investors.

    • @adamrak7560
      @adamrak7560 Місяць тому

      - technology gets genuinely hyped (computers, internet, lab-on-chip, crypto, AI)
      - scammers arrive first, (because it is the easiest to pivot if you are not actually doing anything useful)
      - we are swimming in poop and can barely see the actual real good products
      This cycle is so bad for crypto that I literally cannot name anything that is not somehow scammy.
      Elizabeth Holmes made lab-on-chip infamous, but never actually (mis)used the technology.
      AI scams are just beginning, at least there are some products which are usable, we should mentally prepare for a big avalanche of AI scams.

    • @sws212
      @sws212 28 днів тому

      Nah, Holmes at least wanted to make something that benefited people, her screw up was when she doubled down instead of just shutting the company down when research doesn't pan out like the rest of healthcare / biotech start ups. Web3 and NFTs are just morons chasing trends against business fundamentals, it's the same nonsense as the Dotcom bust when people buy internet stocks even if the companies had nothing to do with the internet.

  • @ProgrammeerMeneer
    @ProgrammeerMeneer Місяць тому +23

    Good video! We managed to get the updated app working with valid details now, so yeah they still can't do proper server restriction and as long as they don't charge a subscription or completely revamp the os, there will always be ways around this.

  • @skull7083
    @skull7083 Місяць тому +13

    I do understand why they went the hardware route as yes, an app can't lock people in for apple or google to replace with their own. But it's just a bad idea especially if it's that fragile it should have never been considered to be made

  • @userre85
    @userre85 Місяць тому +47

    These devices are getting more attention than they should. Didn't we learn anything from the NFT era?

    • @Gestersmek
      @Gestersmek Місяць тому +9

      I don't know what is to be learned. NFTs were relentlessly mocked as well and now they're all worthless.

  • @user-xj5gz7ln3q
    @user-xj5gz7ln3q Місяць тому +18

    Their comment section is turned off. That's telling.

  • @jannikmeissner
    @jannikmeissner Місяць тому +14

    Thanks for the video… Personally I got into deep learning 11 years ago, focusing a huge part of my life on solving really hard engineering problems, and it is unfathomable how many low effort grifts these days seem to be showered in VC money…

  • @hermdude
    @hermdude Місяць тому +32

    Jesse's reply sounds like chatGPT, just that he made all of it lowercase so that it "looks" like it's not, together with the "its" and "it's" mistypes.

    • @mjdevlog
      @mjdevlog 29 днів тому +2

      lmao yeah. Weird af if he types on his phone but the auto capitalize didn't turned on.

  • @thomassynths
    @thomassynths Місяць тому +20

    Just to be clear: Jessie is a board member of Teenage Engineering. So when you say "its nice that they didn't try to make their own sht hardware", that doesn't actually hold much weight.

    • @theorants
      @theorants  Місяць тому +12

      Wait what?? This is news to me, ty for sharing

    • @everyhandletaken
      @everyhandletaken Місяць тому

      @@theorants "SANTA MONICA, Calif.-(BUSINESS WIRE)-Today, Santa Monica-based AI startup rabbit inc. has announced the appointment of Jesper Kouthoofd, founder of teenage engineering, as Chief Design Officer at rabbit. Together with rabbit founder and CEO Jesse Lyu, Kouthoofd will guide the future product design for rabbit while maintaining his roles as head of design / CEO at teenage engineering.
      Lyu and Kouthoofd first met more than 10 years ago and immediately connected over their shared passion for synthesizers, music and product design. Their collaboration officially began when Lyu’s previous company, Raven Tech, engaged teenage engineering to help design award-winning products like the Raven H and Raven R speakers. Lyu joined the board of directors of teenage engineering in 2020 and continues to serve in that role."

  • @meta7gear
    @meta7gear 28 днів тому +5

    Honestly if what comes from these junk AI in a box devices is Apple pulling their finger out and making Siri decent then it will have been a positive in the end.

  • @AminaFilms
    @AminaFilms Місяць тому +5

    I want this AI thing to turn into the pin from star trek but Im guessing Ill never get that in my lifetime.

  • @fluffycritter
    @fluffycritter 25 днів тому +19

    The original iPhone didn't even have a flash that could be used as a flashlight - the original flashlight app just turned the screen white. Which you could do with the web browser.

    • @Houshalter
      @Houshalter 11 днів тому +2

      IIRC it was also spyware.

  • @IRWBRW964
    @IRWBRW964 Місяць тому +6

    You forgot to mention that the LAM is not currently used for the 4 apps. It's a research model that they intend to use in the future.

    • @monad_tcp
      @monad_tcp Місяць тому +2

      because it doesn't exist probably ?
      "for future use", yeah, sure, meanwhile lets use OpenAI chatbot version 3

  • @Belgabor
    @Belgabor Місяць тому +4

    The thing that had me worried pretty much right from the start is when Marques mentioned there is no subscription in contrast to the Humane Pin. Given that AI has running costs, how can that ever be a sustainable business model if you're not one of the big ones and this is just a side project?

  • @SinisterSpatula
    @SinisterSpatula Місяць тому +5

    Canceled my preorder, I agree, this needs to be an app and not a dedicated hardware device. One in which I have to carry, and keep charged, etc. This combined with their shitty behavior, I am done.

    • @MartinDlabaja
      @MartinDlabaja 25 днів тому

      Its called ChatGPT, it does everything Rabbit does

  • @VXFluff
    @VXFluff 10 днів тому +2

    I just realized something...
    The Rabbit R1 is made by Teenage Engineering... So it makes sense that a teenager reverse engineered it lmfao

  • @memetech-
    @memetech- 6 днів тому +2

    The problem is not the fact that it is an Android phone, it's that they act like it isn't

  • @allegrostein
    @allegrostein Місяць тому +4

    What if the old type of software development is still followed, first build is the final build🤔

  • @euanmeston
    @euanmeston 29 днів тому +2

    I work at a robotics automation scale-up and one of the best things we did was move away from manufacturing our own hardware product. The sheer monetary and personnel overhead required to start manufacturing even the simplest product, heavily outweighs the margins on selling the product itself. I could speak at length on those tweets from the CEO but this is a comments section and nobody actually cares.
    This is a CEO that has been sold a dream by a Product Manager that doesn't own a smartphone.

  • @joe_ferreira
    @joe_ferreira Місяць тому +1

    Basically they want to become a if this then that alternative with a voice assistant frontend. You can do the same thing with node red.

  • @hldfgjsjbd
    @hldfgjsjbd Місяць тому +23

    Petition to consider word “cringe” as cringe

    • @arcuscerebellumus8797
      @arcuscerebellumus8797 Місяць тому +3

      Petition to consider a petition to consider word "cringe" as cringe as cringe superior in magnitude to using the word "cringe".

    • @hldfgjsjbd
      @hldfgjsjbd Місяць тому

      @@arcuscerebellumus8797 congratulations, currently you are number 1 in cringe competition

    • @arcuscerebellumus8797
      @arcuscerebellumus8797 Місяць тому

      @@hldfgjsjbd 1 of?

    • @dbluare
      @dbluare Місяць тому +2

      Cringe much?

    • @arcuscerebellumus8797
      @arcuscerebellumus8797 Місяць тому +1

      @@dbluare much cringe, very good.

  • @andyhu9542
    @andyhu9542 Місяць тому +3

    I want to rephrase the first point here: An App is hard to build but easy to copy. To make a good App you need two versions and maintaining both well is a challenging task, as stated. But your competitor can make a crappy App and claim to do everything you can do and undercut you in price to a point that users are not trying your App anymore. They would get the competitor App, have a bad experience and go, 'well, that's bad, why should I spend even more money giving this other one a shot?' Result: in the end, your great idea fails and the bad actor gets more money out of it than you.

  • @randomperson-nq7nk
    @randomperson-nq7nk 26 днів тому +1

    there is still a subdomain from their old website that is still accessible I commented it but i think youtube took it down

  • @Lampe2020
    @Lampe2020 21 день тому +2

    3:48 Well, I have used that fact to customize my user experience on my Samsung Galaxy A5. I use Taskbar as my home screen and GBoard as my keyboard.

  • @brodo9919
    @brodo9919 Місяць тому

    has anyone seen the "quarterly update" video they just posted? I cringed so hard about the cross device Spotify part, they are showing the "change track from my rabbit while playing on pc" as it is their functionality lol

  • @NateBear
    @NateBear 9 днів тому +1

    Calling it cringe hits so much harder than simply calling it a bad product.

  • @monad_tcp
    @monad_tcp Місяць тому +2

    15:45 he created the design of a mug ? or the color of nail polish the guy is using ? I don't get it
    the mug is cool thou

    • @KiraSlith
      @KiraSlith 13 днів тому

      I think it's supposed to be the stack of colored squares. Kinda fugly ngl, but I don't like their company's design aesthetic anyway so... 🤷

  • @Kane0123
    @Kane0123 Місяць тому +2

    So they have a public endpoint which was publicly accessible but if you interact with it you’re breaking rules.
    Can I sue WebScrapers for even landing on my website? Did they accidentally find the infinite money glitch?

  • @king5327
    @king5327 19 днів тому +1

    This man does not remember the days of the flashlight app setting your brightness to max and filling your screen with white because hardware flashlights didn't exist back then.

  • @webjoeking
    @webjoeking Місяць тому +2

    Is there a case for Rabbit “OS” to be able to access lower level functions that Android OS doesn’t permit?

    • @monad_tcp
      @monad_tcp Місяць тому +1

      there's only one reason : accessing the serial number of the hardware for the purpose of doing license validation, so you can sell a service that should cost $5/mo for hundreds of dollars.
      no other "lower level" function would ever be needed for anything, they're not running the models locally anyway to ever have any custom hardware for the solution.
      and on Android you literally don't need lower level access to anything, everything on Android is done by IPC, you only need the adequate permissions, unless you're trying to diverge audio from the RLINK API used by the "phone app" that runs the telephony service, there's no reason for ever need lower level access.

  • @FluffyAngelUwU
    @FluffyAngelUwU 7 днів тому +1

    The issue isn't that it is an androip app, is that it could have been android app with no issues

  • @rogersowers9837
    @rogersowers9837 5 годин тому

    A camera that doesn't take pictures is like a phone that doesn't make phone calls.

  • @hereallyfast
    @hereallyfast 27 днів тому +1

    There's a UA-cam short that makes fun of the phrase, "Think about it". I can't believe I saw it in real life.

  • @bitman32x
    @bitman32x 12 днів тому

    This is the first time I came your channel and by accident, I really like the way you deliver your content, unrated and straight to the point talk. Now I'm subscribing and eagerly waiting for new content from you.

  • @MarcCastellsBallesta
    @MarcCastellsBallesta 6 днів тому +1

    I'm not a genius. I will never develop a genius device, nor a genius app.
    That's why I don't seel genius promises to other people.
    People nowadays should:
    a) Accept their limitations
    b) Take responsibility for their actions
    c) Be held accountable for their mistakes
    Scamming people shouldn't be so easy.

  • @memetech-
    @memetech- 6 днів тому +1

    LAM is actually the same functionality OpenAI has had for a long time

  • @RandomGeometryDashStuff
    @RandomGeometryDashStuff Місяць тому

    02:38 electron apps don't looks like os theme tho (except window border, menu bar, some dialogs)

  • @HoopyAmero
    @HoopyAmero 11 днів тому

    that flashlight he was referring to was literally a white screen with the brightness on max. Because the first iPhone didn't have a flash led on the phone to function as a flashlight!

  • @ustav_o
    @ustav_o Місяць тому

    what a nice video. maybe you could try making video from some stuff that happened on the past that you find interesting (like the os2)

  • @R-A-W
    @R-A-W Місяць тому

    what is the app your using to have all your tabs it looks good, is it a twitch app
    Also the only reason they can Patient something is if they have a user press a button (at least here in Australia) You can't patient software code that has no user input.

    • @digitalnorth
      @digitalnorth 28 днів тому

      @R-A-W if you are asking about the browser its called Arc Browser by The browser company Its really good

  • @IDNHANTU2day
    @IDNHANTU2day 5 днів тому +1

    I hope someone starts a Class Action Law suit.

  • @TheGuillotineKing
    @TheGuillotineKing Місяць тому +1

    Fun Fact it had to be hardware because anyone can make that a app and they would have no moat around them so they made it hardware because you can't compete with them

  • @hrdcpy
    @hrdcpy Місяць тому

    This video and Emily's Twitter thread will be the script for all the tech explainer channels. I can hear Logically Answered rn.

  • @LuisMan123
    @LuisMan123 Місяць тому

    the thing is, if they put in a tiny bit of work this could 100% run on Android without root etc. they could use a lockscreen overlay to bypass the default android UI, and could make the app work as an assistant app so holding the power button would work like the push to talk button, and they could use the "write system settings" permission to toggle stuff like wifi Bluetooth yada yada
    all with no native hardware, but then the problem would be that no one would pay 200$ for an app that restricts your phone and is essentially just gpt on your lockscreen

  • @KiraSlith
    @KiraSlith 13 днів тому +1

    I'm impressed they've managed to jank their way to getting GPT-4 to talk to a back end on a remote device. But due to the nature of prompt engineering with extremely large LLMs like GPT, the moment OpenAI moves on to GPT-4.5 or whatever, it's going to break possibly forever. Worse, they implied the reason the Rabbit r1 even needed a dedicated device was to make use of a Qualcomm chip with it's own tensor processing unit to run some component of their app locally, which now the specs and app are out there and working on other devices, was obviously a lie.
    Worse still, the hardware there is about $80/device, after losses on shipping, tax, and etcetera, there's maybe $25 of income left on their end, how are they paying the fees for GPT-4 access for more than a year for every one of these little Android doodads? I smell an incoming rug pull again.

  • @rajarshikhatua100
    @rajarshikhatua100 Місяць тому +3

    I use nova btw

  • @supermonkeyqwerty
    @supermonkeyqwerty 7 годин тому +1

    11:37 - for the non-technical people watching, the researchers and experts and hackers have actually become much better at reading this compiled, obfuscated bundle of letters and numbers and turning it back into actual code
    but still, submitting compiled code to an app store is not even a moderately significant problem in the grand scheme of things... whenever a user recieves software, whether it's through an app store or through firmware installed on hardware or otherwise, they'll receive that compiled package

  • @user-tz6nn8iw9m
    @user-tz6nn8iw9m Місяць тому +1

    His way of selling reminds me of the CEO of Vercel selling edge serverless

  • @naturegoggle
    @naturegoggle 28 днів тому +2

    Love these spicy rants 😆💕

  • @madebyjonny7637
    @madebyjonny7637 Місяць тому

    I wasn't sure if this was real, but the source code (that i saw) seemed to point at them using playwright for they "action model".

  • @_Neopolitan
    @_Neopolitan Місяць тому +2

    Although AI is incredibly useful, everyone is so focused around making it a product they can make money off of, rather than making a tool that can actually better society and vast amounts of work force, there is only so much an any form of AI can do, at some point down the line, a human is going to have to be overseeing everything.

  • @Ezra411st
    @Ezra411st 21 день тому +1

    Yea I don't use the Default Samsung Keyboard app but I use the Google Gboard one that I can change the background and have translate on it by default, and I don't use the default background app but a different one

    • @theairacobra
      @theairacobra 10 днів тому

      use openboard, it's like gboard but less spooky and googleified

  • @SimonDevScr
    @SimonDevScr 19 днів тому +1

    0:47 Wait, what was that pop up? It is like an extension or something?

  • @benmeehan1968
    @benmeehan1968 Місяць тому +2

    The business model is so clearly unsustainable, it's either a ruse to make some short term profit on the hardware, or it's a bait-and-switch exercise. The problem is that there are investors happy to look past this just to be in the AI space. Welcome to the next generation Dot Com bubble.

  • @LWatson
    @LWatson Місяць тому +1

    Tbh the thing with it being android based is just funny and kinda ironic *because* everyone has been saying for a while that these AI hardware devices could just be an app. It’s not that surprising it’s built off base android. Then bundled with the fact the app they built is actually (to an extent) compatible with android phones with not too much tweaking - is also pretty funny.

  • @ttrev007
    @ttrev007 Місяць тому

    the first thing i thought when i saw the Rabbit was 'this should be an app' and then 'i don't want more crap in my pocket'. You have to have a REALLY IMPORTANT use case to create more junk for my pocket. having to put more crap in my pocket and remember to charge it is just not worth it. This should have been a an app or i can live without it just to avoid the clutter.

  • @luckylanno
    @luckylanno Місяць тому +1

    The CEO should've said "AI will change the way humans will use computers. The rabbit is that change."

  • @phdonme1
    @phdonme1 25 днів тому +2

    I saw some dude hyping this up a couple weeks before it came out.
    And immediately I thought this is going to fail
    Google lens is a far superior product
    And it's free

  • @TempoFino
    @TempoFino Місяць тому +2

    This should be on your main channel!

  • @Palmtop_User
    @Palmtop_User 8 днів тому +1

    I have seen your face in my feed a few times and i expected a gruff, JJJ like voice. I did not expect your voice to be so gentle

  • @trajectoryunown
    @trajectoryunown 8 днів тому

    Wow, that response from the Humane guy makes me want to learn more about their products.

  • @deathsyth8888
    @deathsyth8888 Місяць тому

    Rabbit R1 & the Humane AI Pin are pre-Beta/Alpha products sold for full price.

  • @SamuelMM_Mitosis
    @SamuelMM_Mitosis Місяць тому +20

    I don’t understand why nobody compares these to the Meta smart glasses. I think Meta is the only one making new unique hardware that is actually useful.

    • @murk959
      @murk959 Місяць тому

      What about apple vision pro

    • @SamuelMM_Mitosis
      @SamuelMM_Mitosis Місяць тому +1

      @@murk959 I just think that’s a different category

  • @404maxnotfound
    @404maxnotfound Місяць тому +1

    That Jesse Lyu thread is basically: "if we me make it an app no investor or customer will pay us an insane amount of money and we don't want that. Of course that's bad to admit outloud that it's basically a scam so here's a bunch of barely thought out excuses."

  • @ToniMorton
    @ToniMorton 8 днів тому

    they didn't want to make an app because they knew how badly they would be roasted for it and likely would also have been denied from appstores for data collection policies

  • @unruler
    @unruler 13 днів тому +1

    Obviously both of these "AI in a box" projects are a way to make a quick buck on AI hype. They don't need to be a separate hardware, but if they release as an app they would have to compete with millions of other apps and they just would get overshadowed by Siri or Google voice assistant. And they know that they don't have anything worth of value to offer with their service, because the app model is more sustainable in a long run and if they were confident in their service they would release it in as many forms as possible (like app, web, PC client program, etc) like any other big service does.

  • @jack_lion
    @jack_lion 16 днів тому +1

    Teenage engineerings not that great either. I bought an OP1 when it was at 1400. A year later it would not power on. I was quoted 800 for a repair and upon inspecting it myself and reseating the connections I couldn’t identify any obvious problems. They make overpriced trash in my opinion.

  • @JPlexer
    @JPlexer Місяць тому

    19:50 I think OS2 is actually more a reference to OS1 from the movie "her"

  • @KAIZENTECHNOLOGIES
    @KAIZENTECHNOLOGIES Місяць тому

    A device would have been justified if it was a smartwatch + smartglasses combo, something similar to brilliant lab's frame.

  • @mielole
    @mielole 10 днів тому

    At 14:49 the "even if we built RabbitOS as an app..." is discussed. Theo reacts to it by giving an Uber example. To be fair to Jesse, he has a point. He's basically saying: "If RabbitR1 was an app, rather than a separate minimalist hardware product, the experience would be way worse, as in comparable to Siri". What he means is that as an app, you would have to launch it, be interrupted by the notifications from other apps on your phone, etc. He's arguing that by giving you a hardware thing without notifications the UX is better as the assistant could be immediately available and not get its volume reduced every time a notification comes in etc, distracting you from the assistant / intended UX.
    All other points made by Theo are valid, just being fair to Jesse here

  • @Morbuto
    @Morbuto 28 днів тому

    I love the flashlight analogy. Maybe they should have made a flashlight startup 😅

  • @404maxnotfound
    @404maxnotfound Місяць тому

    Its wild they are admiting it's AOSP and then in the same breath claiming they invented and entire OS.

  • @overra_dev
    @overra_dev Місяць тому

    pairing open interpreter and frame by brilliant labs, would be more open and useful than both

  • @ChristopherCricketWallace
    @ChristopherCricketWallace Місяць тому

    So you can't load your own software on a device you bought? We don't own anything anymore, I guess.

  • @Patches33001
    @Patches33001 19 днів тому

    This is sounding like a repeat of juicero.... are we in a time loop?

  • @user-ve9he1cn1u
    @user-ve9he1cn1u Місяць тому

    os/2 was important for those with IBM PCs but did die because of windows

  • @grimm_gen
    @grimm_gen Місяць тому +1

    Imagine if Apple sued people for jailbreaking their ipod touch back then