There was a heartbreaking story in Canada, where a woman, who had two pitbull dogs since they were puppies, and raised them with love and care. She was also a babysitter. One day her dogs killed the baby she was taking care of. Just ripped him from her arms. The story I saw about it ended with her saying; no not all pitbulls will attack. But until you can tell me which ones will, and which ones won't. They should be banned. And I couldn't agree more
took a fucking BABY'S LIFE for this dumb woman to find that out? little bit of google woulda done miracles. ignorant human beings. hope they all die from their useless mutts.
Thank you Kenneth Phillips for speaking out against these dangerous dogs. People want to draw up the most asinine excuses for what these mutants do,but there is no good reason why. There is only ONE solution and that is to ban the breed!
I would love to see a Pitbull advocate have a formal debate with Kenneth Phillips. That would be really interesting and I think Kenneth Phillips would expose the pitbull lobby really effectively that way.
Why has nobody defined the definition of "pitbull? The British PM intends to ban all American Bully XL dogs by the end of the year and these are truly dangerous. But it seems that my seniors building in Toronto, Canada is being used as an experimental and breeding station building for these. The owner of several of these dogs, who is very antagonistic towards me, has allowed them to jump all over me several times, but I was never bitten. I believe the dogs did not bite me because they could sense no fear from me. Or, was I just lucky?
I worked in a county shelter and I remember at least 5 pitbulls who were brought in to be euthanized because they mauled or killed people, including two children under six. The county coroner had to pick up the euthanized pits so they could be cut open to retrieve a child's body parts. And guess what? The shelter still adopted out pitbulls to families. Sometimes the pits would get into fights in the kennels and a water hose, being hit in the head with hard object, pepper spray, would not break up the fight. I only lasted there for 9 months before I got fed up. I've noticed a pattern in the people advocating for pitbulls: criminals and tatted up leftwing childless adults. They project their victimhood mentality on these vicious dogs.
Unfortunately, there is a certain demographic that is over represented in owning pit bulls. What's more, as was shown by the Michael Vick case, this certain demographic also continues the tradition of dog fighting and breeding pitbulls for dog fighting. So on top of everything else, the sort of people who defend pitbulls, even if they're proud of their dog for ripping out another dog's throat last weekend, are also the sort of people that like to cry racism when they're caught running out of Target with a stack of free sneakers.
I know soooo many right wing folks that have pits, especially in the South. It’s part of the ‘I’m rough and tough’ mantra. There’s a whole shirt line with the rebel flag and a pit bull.
Rest in peace Hollace Bennard and Lily Bennard. Two sweet babies gone from this earth because of their parents' reckless disregard for common sense. Arrogant delusional people who thought it was more important to be pit bull "woke" than make responsible choices for their family.
He speaks the honest truth here, totally. Most pit bull owners are very ignorant people. They like living risky and that's okay but they shouldn't risk other people and their property with their decisions. I don't think many of them actually know different breeds of dogs very well, that's why they don't know the difference between breeds. Some claim that they do but often they're pretty young people and there's no way they could know this in the time they've been alive.
@Dustin Baker, I know personal accounts of pit bulls attacking people and their pets. It's happened to my own son, one of my own dogs as well. I personally know people who have had their animals mauled by by pit bulls. You need to live in reality. Today it's hard, some of us still do manage to.
@Dustin Baker Stop the inbreeding of pitbulls, I agree. Too many of them in shelters. Pretty sad for a breed people claim to love. That's telling in itself about this breed is seeing how easily they're abandoned.
I completely agree, there are reasons why pitties attack just like any other dog is because mainly how the owner treats it or if inbreeding happens thats how a dog becomes messed up. People don't have a right to be in this conversation unless they actually had the breed itself, its like a rumor. Don't just assume until you met the breed itself and had one on one time with it. Literally there are many many many pitbulls out there because people don't wanna give them a chance, I literally sleep perfectly fine with my sisters pitbull Max in the same bed as me. The only thing I hate is when he decides to sleep on the blanket im covered up with lol
The main reason for bad pit bulls and bad dogs in general is bad ownership. Pit bulls are harder to own than labs. Not because they’re bad dogs, they just take more effort than some other breeds. Owning a pit bull isn’t risky, at least not if you know what you’re doing
The only real life argument I’ve ever had about pit bulls was me presenting statistics and evidence that they are inherently dangerous, he said to stop talking about or he’d punch me in the face. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you a pit bull advocate.
They want his law license taken away? lol the guy's specialty is dog attacks and he just noticed an alarming pattern and pointed it out. Pit advocates never cease to amaze lol.
I believe a lawyer who has see it all, versus pit apologists. I’ve seen 5 pit bull attacks and 7 pets killed by them. I’ve never seen another breed maul, other breeds bite, not maul.
I have seen other breeds attack you just aren't looking hard enough I saw a video of a Rottweiler that tried to attack a vet. Understand this 90% of when a dog attacks is not because it's mad or vicious it's because it's afraid. Biting is a dog's only way of self-defense how would you act to defend yourself if you were afraid would you bite someone if you were being held down against your will.
The Wingless one Fowler : Sadly, Pits do not attack because they’re scared. They run across parking lots, school play yards to kill a child. Other dogs attack because they’re scared. Pit bull breeds love the kill. That’s why they always wag their tail while killing.
If it matters how the dog was raised, why are shelters allowed to adopt out pit bulls? If the history of the dog is unknown, as is the case with the majority of shelter pit bulls, it should be illegal to adopt out ANY pit bull from a shelter.
Again get it through your heads these dogs are not bred to be vicious they're not born with that ability they are given that ability through bad people who use them for their own selfish reasons haven't you ever heard of pit bull rings those are events made that are illegal in the animals are trained to be vicious and nine times out of ten the animal does not want to do it they are forced to do it against their will so learn about where the dog was actually bred and how it was invented before you jump to conclusions about one individual animal because of the way it looks and because of some history of a person who raced it wrong.
@@thewinglessonefowler8604 yeah we never breed dogs for their attributes...oh wait yes we do that is why we have sheepdogs,water dog(for retrieving ducks) hunting dogs, search dogs oh yeah and fighting dogs.
Really 8 kids killed...... I know of 3 kids injured by Pit bulls one was a baby they took the dog to the top of 3 story building and thru it off the roof........ The father of the baby boy would have a lot to say about how dangerous Pit bulls are.... You are not playing with all your marbles if you own a pitbull
That's sad. The dog died when they threw it off the roof? I understand being mad at the dog, but it's not his fault. Hope it didn't suffer. I am no pitbull fan.
People stop by to pop off with out hearing what the man has to say. Stop a moment to think. Ken Phillips is an attorney for attacked by dogs and has been doing it since the 1990's. The man makes his living off of dog bites, so he has first hand knowledge of what happens with them. At some point people have got to have respect for the man saying what he is observing is dangerous, even though that stance is not conducive to him earning a living. Thank you Rover's Morning Glory and the radio station, along with Mr. Phillips in allowing this message to go out.
No. What he is saying is purely biased and ignorantly flawed logic based. He's not a dog expert. Look what you said; "He deals with dog bites at a Law Firm." That is like taking one side of a graph, and ignoring the rest of information on a graph. Dog trainers like Caesar Millan, and many others (animal behaviorists) and veterinarians have proven Pit Bulls are perfectly fine. Of course he is going to have a large variety case of Pit Bull attacks, because most people who own Pit Bulls only want them because of their bad stigma ("Oh, they'll fuck someone up!") / ("They're scary bad dogs! Nobody will fuck with me!") - You got ghetto people owning these breeds, who have no interest in dogs, or knowledge of dogs in general. They end up being tied up with lack of socialization, nor exercise, etc. That's the type of people whom walk into his law firm. Notice how the media is filled with stories; "Neighbor's Pit Bull Attacks..." / "Family Friend's Pit Bull Attacks..." These almost always happen in ghetto, and or low income neighborhoods, owned by problematic Pit Bull. A dog like a Pit Bull isn't going to attack someone when properly raised and socialized. They are not for first time owners type dogs. They require knowledge, and experience. People who own them, do not have any of that. Get real. His argument is an actual joke - people only hate these dogs, because of media fuel. Simple as that. You're more likely to die in a car accident then ever coming across a Pit Bull and getting mauled.
As a dog lover and an attorney who also represents victims of dog attacks, Kenneth is ABSOLUTELY correct about pit bull breeds. They need to be banned.
I live in the UK where they have been a banned breed for decades and yet there are numerous Pits and their various mixes in society. Other breeds that have recently killed people in the UK are American Bulldogs and Bully XLs and yet there is no mention of banning these breeds !
I recommend people watching the UA-cam video by Invictus "pit bulls are inherently more dangerous". There the stats are 53% of unprovoked attacks by dogs are committed by pit bulls. Of that pitbull's account for 64% of fatal attacks. That's more than all the other breeds combined. And pitbulls only represent 5% of dog breeds. I'm not sure of the Freudian psychosexual dynamic of why people defend psychopathically violent and unpredictable dogs like pit bulls. I assume that it has something to do with vicarious toughness and, more specifically, it's a tiny peener thing.
Wild animals are labeled dangerous because of their strength and ability to do severe damage to people and other animals........ A lion is still a lion even if its raised by a loving family...... The lion is incredibly strong and attacks by instinct its natural for a lion to attack but its not the attack that's the problem the thing is that the lions strength is the problem..... It doesn't know its own strength and will kill someone not meaning to kill that person........ Same thing with a shark its way to dangerous strong and powerful to be a family pet..... A pitbull is incredibly powerful and has the strength of a wild animal on that basis alone it is dangerous to have as a pet..... That is why the government needs to step in and change the laws making it illegal to own a pitbull.........
Joan Marie right on. People don't want to acknowlge this. Doctors that treat pitbull attack victims compare their injuries to shark attacks...just think about that.
crasher xero you’re clearly the typical pit nutter. I’m gobsmacked that you’ve actually edited that comment and it still sounds like the ramblings of a smooth brain.
you are trying to translate dog mentality into human mentality. You can't just can't understand another species in "human" terms. Retrievers view retrieving as "fun and engaging", Greyhounds view running and chasing and speed as "fun and engagin" unfortunately once in the mode which is very easy to enter pit bull breed will view incessant chase and attack and return and attack as "fun and engaging" they don't view it as evil they view it as "fun and engaging" since it was bred to do just that kind of behavior. You see dogs don't view "bad" or "good" they view what they are programmed to do. Therefore we are not compatible with such mentality, humans are just not compatible
About the Pitbull issue, regarding people who defend Pitbull ownership: -People dont understand statistics or dont want them in the conversation or dont care what precludes certain statistical figures. Period. For them it only counts a sample size of n=1. -People dont understand science (breeding, genetics (phenotype and genotype) -People dont want to be wrong about the breed they chose to "love".
Pittbulls are a minority owned breed, yet. They represent 66% of fatal dog attacks two folds more than the rest of all other breeds combined. And yes, I am a dog owner. Getting a pitbull to stand down without use of force is almost impossible as opposed to other breeds. Irresponsible owners of less dangerous breeds rarely make it to the tragic headlines. Irresponsible owners of pitbulls often do . There's your answer.
This! They don't stand down. The woman telling the story of her boxer attacking her, as awful as that is, is not the same as a pit attacking. Other dogs will abandon the victim if they're challenged or injured. I was attacked by my brothers boxer years ago and a swift punch to the face got him to let go and back off. I've seen pitbulls get kicked 5 feet away by a horse and still go back. Hell, the recent video out of the US where firemen are hitting them with axes and they don't care. Tunnel vision. They don't give up until they are killed.
@@Liannabelle8 Genetics trump training. Bully breeds (even though the bully advocates say they are not breeds) were bred to fight so it is kill or be killed for them. I actually don't blame these dogs for behaving what they were bred to do. Yes, they are extremely dangerous but I blame the breeders, the owners and their advocates more. They exist because of these humans.. I am sure there are some docile bullies who never hurt a family from their birth until their death. However, it is a risk because you'll never know if you got the docile one or the one that will suddenly get triggered out of nowhere and then attack and kill you down the road.
Amazing our public laws tolerate violent dogs kept as pets in our neighborhoods. Home owner insurance companies have bans on certain breeds but the bans are ignored by owners and renters, who remove the dog for inspection and bring it back when all is clear.
Why do these people completely ignore statistics ?? It feels like banging your head against a brick wall when trying to get through to them, they just repeat the same things
I've had 2 pitbulls, both territorial. I put both to sleep. One attacked both of my other dogs, unprovoked. The other nipped by daughter. The next time she could have went for her throat. I hate pitbulls
The lawyer must be able to identify by fact what a pitbull is before he can even conduct research for his other points. The Lawyer claims the pitbull is the American Staffordshire terrier then later claims the Pitbull is every dog or dog breed that has a Blocky head and a big chest. So The lawyer in one breath sets the foundation for comparison’s between American Staffordshire to other dog breeds, then changes the foundations for comparison, classifying the Pitbull as 10 or more different dog breeds vs every other dog breed as a singular dog breed individually, 10 vs 1 is disingenuous misleading & rigged. The English bulldog, English Staffordshire terrier, American Staffordshire terrier, American bully, bullterrier, American pittbul, Boxer,Old English bull dog, Connie Corso, Bullmastiff, are all recognised as different breeds & each breed can be identified by DNA. The guy on the phone is not playing semantics he’s Point is a fact, the lawyer Point in response is only his subjective truth. The lawyers Salt water point only disproof his own point because once salt is added to water it is no longer Salt or freshwater it is salt water, this method is the reason we have different drinks & recipe’s, medications ect & why Coke & Fanta are not the same drink just because they both have sugar, they both have a combination of different ingredients that create a different outcome in taste. Many medication will use a ingredient but the combination overall create a different outcome,I wonder if he thinks spaghetti is salt.
@@deansmith230 I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here. A lawyer doesn’t have to identify anything. They’ll call expert witnesses when they need to. For example. A lawyer isn’t go in front of a judge and explain an autopsy or medical findings, he’s going to call the Coroner or a doctor to the stand. If identifying dog breeds, they’re going to call a veterinarian or breeder to the stand. Other than that, a lawyers whole job is to spin the story to make a judge or jury side with them.
A pitbull attacked and killed a stray dog walking up my street in 1996 The pitbull grab the stray dog by the neck and ripped his neck out....... The men had to hit the pitbull over the head with a bat numerous times before it let go of the stray dog.... The cops took the dog and the dog was killed by injection..... Kids where playing on the street lots of kids we got lucky the pitbull didn't attack one of the kids....
A pitbull & pitbull mix mauled a young lady in Texas, Dec.2021. ATE her face & ears off, tore all her clothes off, 800- 1000 bites, dragging her through the house. Shelters adopt these "pets" out everyday? WTF?!?
@@train_go_boom2065 Shut uuuuuuup. you have no idea what ur talking about. When a dog gets mad you can tell. Stop commenting "are you f'ing stupid" when you have absolutely no idea what ur talking about
@Dustin Baker he isn't the dumb one trying to use mental gymnastics to support a breed of dog that is known to be violent no matter what facts and stats you are shown. Pitnutters are just as gullible as antivaxxers, no matter how many facts you give em they still insist that their precious little pibble is the sweetest little thingy in the world until it kills/seriously injures their kid or another child.
Anyone...doctor or lawyer who gives advice against the ownership of dangerous animals ....with nothing but a motive to help prevent injury, disfigurement or death.....should NOT be criticized, threatened or attacked. Such people should even be thanked, helped and massively heard. Shame on those who threaten these well meaning folk.
lmao this man is the realist bro he said its like saying i voted for such and such they should be president the person he choose i dont even want to pretend someone voted for lmao
Children mauled by pit bulls. I love dogs but there's no way in hell I would have a pitbull around my kid because there's something my kid can do to trigger that dog and I'm just not willing to risk it
Dogfighter slang is "lockjaw." It's not a lock and key. It means a pit bull can latch on and not let go. Why are "bulldog clips" called "bulldog clips?"
there is no mechanical locking mechanism, but their jaws are so wide that they do not need to release in order to breath. And they have 'gameness', meaning they would literally rather die than release their target once their prey drive has been triggered.
I know another guy in my Seniors' building who was started when the resident American Bully XXL suddenly lunged at him, hitting a clipboard which he was holdng up. Although that contact did no harm by itself, he was so startled by this that he had a heartattack. I just learned to-day that he has been returned to the hospital for more treatments.
Bird dogs point. Cattle dogs herd. Pits kill. XL Pits are being bred, 130-150 lb. The lawyer is spot on, expert. And sadly, pits are horribly abused, used for fighting, ppl get other dogs to feed to pits. A “never been aggressive” pit/mixed pit are easily triggered by sudden noises, a shriek, sudden movement. A family had a newborn, 3 days old, wife baby husband pit in bed watching TV. Mom coughed, pit turned made eye contact w the baby & killed the infant. So the 1st woman caller wants to wait until the dog attacks, maims or kills before it’s deemed dangerous. They’re bred to kill. Mr Phillips has accurate information that can save lives. I’ve read info by Doctors, Phillips has knowledge by experience. Any dog can bite. But it’s much more severe with the power, jaw strength, tenacity of a pit/mix/large headed dog. The trauma is horrific, amputations, flesh torn off, maimed for life, or killed. They kill pets, easily triggered, high prey drive. Ppl need to take heed.
If there are 5 million pit bulls in the United States that means, even if we go cheap with .22 long rifle at five cents a bullet, it will take at least $250,000 to solve the Pitbull problem.
I have a friend that will fight over ‘that’s not really an American pit bull terrier!’ I don’t care. Like he said- it’s a TYPE of dog. Just like saying mastiff or shepherd.
And if you ask that friend to define an APBT, I doubt he can give a sound definition because words can't truly define the different breeds properly. And it is actually "describe' and not define which that AH caller used as if he could define a pitbull himself LOL. Heck, how can someone define a German Shepherd or a shih tzu properly or even describe them without also describing a similar looking dog.
1. yes we can tell a pit by sight 2. If pits arent dangerous why do they have to be "trained properly" not to maul infants and kill smaller animals (pets) 3. If theyre so lovely why are pitbulls the #1 nost returned breed to adoption agencies? 4. Why are pit rescues constantly caught reselling dogs that have been returned after a bite or scare from aggressive behavior under a different name 5. Why are pit rescues constantly exposed for using deceptive practices to "save thes dogs".
Rescue centers lie about their bully dogs so they could get rid of them as you mentioned. I watched a video about Blue who killed this old woman a few days after she volunteered to foster him. Looking at his pics, he had this nice face with the big grin and the caption under his pics (from the shelter) depicted him as a very loving dog. Imagine, killing someone who wanted to rehabilitate him just days after she got him.
The problem with Pitbulls is that they are an aggressive race of dog, and yes they can be breed to be calm and good but you have to be a special kinf of person to do that the average joe is not going to raise them well they should be at least mandatory licence for owners making sure you get the right péople to adopt them.
@@sammy9103 Pit Bulls have been banned in the UK for the last few decades and yet there are many still at large, including many pups plus Pit Bull mixes.
@@sammy9103 I just found out yesterday that there are still a lot here in Australia, which just makes me sad. In all my life I have only ever come across one Pitbull, and the owner was a very responsible owner. Kids aren't allowed anywhere near that dog, and he takes very special precautions with that dog.
Most cases of death or mauling is of family members and a dog that was raised from a puppy in a loving home. One woman sneezed with her dog and baby on the bed and the Pit Bull reacted by instantly killing the newborn. Because of a sneeze. That dog was never abused and like switching on the light it killed a baby.
They are not a breed for everyone. You have to know how to handle agressive dogs with dominant personalities. My best farm k9 was half working line GSD and half timber wolf. She was a dangerous animal but that is what you need on my farm. It takes 2 good dogs to replace her. We have a coyote problem. Everyone says coyotes do not pack up but I am a biologist and I am.seeing it happen. I need k9s who can take out a coyote in one bite.
Rover whenever you get a caller like that pakistan guy who wont be repsectful and hes talking over the guest then mute them or end the call they can get corrected off the phone
I know what a pit pull is. They are the dogs that are killing children in all these UA-cam videos I watch over the past 2 days. I have a really good idea of what they look like.
Read how Michael Vick "selectively bred" his Pit Bulls. he killed the dogs that lost their fights or refused to continue fighting and bred the dogs that were relentless fighters that fought and won. What kind of dogs do you think you get from this kind of breeding program? This is not something that Vick invented, he got it from the existing fighting dog culture.
That is why I hate these evil breeders and those who love blood sports for entertainment more because these dogs couldn't help what they are. Their breeders made them the killing machines that they are today and also the mixed ones. Breeders could have chosen to breed out the ferocity out of this bully breeds. I learned that the English bulldog used to be massive but breeding out its ferocity through the years made it smaller now (but I don't know how dangerous still).
I was mauled by a retired police dog when I was 10 or 11. Bruce was a German Shepherd, as were nearly all police dogs in that era. I had played with Bruce for years before the attack, but he was always off chain. This time he was chained to a doghouse while the owners and my family woked in the garden. I had never been warned that when Bruce was on a leash or chain, he considered himself on duty. Lucky for me his chain was short and as he jumped on me, biting me, I was propelled backwards and eventually I was out of reach . I don't think Shepherds should be banned, but I do think Pits should. My daughter took in a pit from a rescue. Within one month, he grabbed the best friend of my granddaughter, by the forehead and pulled her off the sofa. At least 6 people (4 adults) in the room, all watching a movie. No sudden noise or action. That bite tore her open to the skull. They immediately surrendered that dog to the pound.
I’ve had a pitbull while growing up and don’t hate the breed but how is it even a debate over a dog and human safety. It is sad there is many pit’s that won’t hurt or be aggressive but we can risk human life when we can’t differentiate them from the lethal weapons. Do we have to Wait till the people advocating for them lose their child or pet to have a change of heart?
This is similar to the case involving Sandra Herold, Charla Nash, and Travis the chimpanzee. Sober risk assessment is always in order when dealing with unpredictable/unstable animals.
Pitbulls have natural high game drive & high pain tolerance which makes it hard to stop them & loose cannons they were never bred to be in family home around pets or children
When people want to be stupid and deny facts, your wasting your time on them until their child is attacked and some are so stupid they will still deny the facts!
Hi Ken thank you for this video....... Pit bulls have mechanical jaws that lock when they bite down their jaws are incredibly powerful the callers are trying to compare Pit bulls to other breeds of dogs but the FACT is that Pit bulls are in a category all alone..... They are dangerous by nature not by lifestyle.... The reason drug dealers or low income people have pittbulls is to intimidate everyone and scare people but then they say Pit bulls are harmless but if they were harmless they would not own a pitbull.... Drug dealers lived across the street from my boyfriends apartment for 4 months they had Pit bulls for the very reason that they are so strong and vicious its a fact....
To the female caller saying it's any animal: WRONG. A beagle does not have the size nor the jaw strength a pit has. Lady you are clueless. You were bit by your beagle.... I was bit by A POLICE DOG... and we are BOTH still alive lady. It is about the jaw strength, the size and weight of the dog.
I've posted comments about the dangers of pitbulls on some pro- pitbull utubes, and they take the comments down. They don't want to hear anything that contradicts their narrative of the cuddly family friendly pup who sleeps with their children and loves everybody.
Dogs do what their genetics tell them to do. Mastiffs, GSDs, Malis etc guard, border collies herd, greyhounds chase etc etc but according to the pit bull advocates, game bred fighting dogs are the exception to breed speific behaviour which seems to me delusional.
It seems to me they are just more mentally committed to bite down and not let go and this comes from strong instincts bred in to them over the last few centuries. You can see their is a diffence in how breeds of dogs tend to bite by watching an Australian cattle dog work compared to a border collie; the cattle dog will nip more because it was bred to chase cattle rather than sheep.
As an attorney, KEN KNEW that called NEVER said that people were training their dsogs to kill specific people. The caller was making the point that many owners of pitbull type dogs encourage GENERAL agression and fail to properly socialize and train their dogs.
I don’t get it. If you have a choice between the 20 cal or the grenade launcher, which one you think is gonna do the least amount of damage?. Why do these people have to have this particular breed and why are they so adamant that they must have this particular dog. Even if the risk is tiny why would you put your child around that? I wouldn’t put my child around any large dog but a pit Bull? Doesn’t that defy maternal instinct? What am I missing?
i do my research and dude had that one point of the pitbull not being a pitbull after testing but to me that doesnt change shit the dude was just trying to side track the coversation
I've done heaps of research myself and the one thing he did get wrong is the lock jaw. That's actually part of the gameness trait that only Pitbulls have.
There is great mix of true and misinformation here, it is sad. The attorney makes some points but makes a lot of loose comments, like “John P Colby invented the American Standforshire terrier” that’s so wrong, also the standfoshire bull terrier, it’s a whole different breed. Also dogs in England that were baiting bulls where literally old English bulldogs and the dog fighting ones where bulldog terriers mixes, not defined as APBT. Human aggression is highly uncommon among “Game/ sports/ hunting” APBT. The actual description of what he says is a Pit-bull type dog is so wrong in deed because is so vague, so we can say ( all thick dogs with big head and muscular complexion who bites a kid is a Pitbull) this is so wrong. But I agree when he says Pitbull type dogs or dogs who have lineage of an American Pitbull terrier shouldn’t be in the hands of just any owner, any powerful breed as a matter of fact should have the right owner.
Dog aggressive, yes but yet proving more & more with each increasing attack that they're also Human aggressive Even legendary breeder, John Colby's pitbull, fatally mauled his own nephew back in the day & he did not cull the mauler. He went on to Breed it.
So define a pitbull. It is hard to define some animals clearly because of the variety. We can only go by description that sometimes approximates certain aspects that my also describe other dogs because we are using words and not picture. Like how does one define an old English bulldog vs the English bulldog we have now aside from the difference in size? Or define a French bulldog or a bull mastiff. Define a German Shepherd. That caller was an arrogant AH since I doubt he could define a pitbull himself. And the better wording should be 'describe" because you are supposed to describe the features and traits of the dog but then the words alone may also describe another dog with similar features,
@@Sammy-mp9xn That is not a definition of a pitbull and that is why that arrogant AH caller should have been asked to define a pitbull himself. Sometimes, mere words can't define or describe (which the lawyer did) an object, event, animal, etc properly that a picture is needed. If I hadn't seen pics of those dogs you listed (so you gave me a list and not a definition), then I wouldn't have an idea of what those dogs look like. That is why many people don't have any idea of the other rare breeds and even some breeds that other know because mere words can't fully define nor describe them and won't give a clear picture in one's mind.
Apbt is a breed not a type of dog. Just because see the akc doesn’t recognize it as a breed doesn’t mean it’s not. UKC recognizes it as a breed and has for a while now. People also breed that’s what makes kids. One of the dumbest attorneys I’ve ever seen or heard.
He meant breeding for traits and not just breeding to produce kids as the natural outcome of mating. This interview was years ago and he was fighting with people who will say pitbulls were not breeds. Even now, some vets will say that the pitbull is not really a breed
The caller needs to ask himself WHY are other dogs not killing LEFT RIGHT AND CENTRE if he’s right about it being the owners fault, because ALL breeds of dogs are mistreated and abused
@@The_ScapeGoat Official Standard of the Chihuahua General Appearance: A graceful, alert, swift-moving compact little dog with saucy expression, and with terrier-like qualities of temperament. Size, Proportion, Substance: Weight - A well balanced little dog not to exceed 6 pounds. Proportion - The body is off-square; hence, slightly longer when measured from point of shoulder to point of buttocks than height at the withers. Somewhat shorter bodies are preferred in males. Disqualification - Any dog over 6 pounds in weight. Head: A well rounded "apple dome" skull, with or without molera. Expression - Saucy. Eyes - Full, round, but not protruding, balanced, set well apart-luminous dark or luminous ruby. Light eyes in blond or white-colored dogs permissible. Blue eyes or a difference in the color of the iris in the two eyes, or two different colors within one iris should be considered a serious fault. Ears - Large, erect type ears, held more upright when alert, but flaring to the sides at a 45 degree angle when in repose, giving breadth between the ears. Stop - Well defined. When viewed in profile, it forms a near 90 degree angle where muzzle joins skull. Muzzle - Moderately short, slightly pointed. Cheeks and jaws lean. Nose - Self-colored in blond types, or black. In moles, blues, and chocolates, they are self-colored. In blond types, pink noses permissible. Bite - Level or scissors. Overshot or undershot, or any distortion of the bite or jaw, should be penalized as a serious fault. A missing tooth or two is permissible. Disqualifications - Broken down or cropped ears. Neck, Topline, Body: Neck - Slightly arched, gracefully sloping into lean shoulders. Topline- Level. Body - Ribs rounded and well sprung (but not too much "barrel-shaped"). Tail - Moderately long, carried sickle either up or out, or in a loop over the back with tip just touching the back. (Never tucked between legs.) Disqualifications - Docked tail, bobtail. Forequarters: Shoulders - Lean, sloping into a slightly broadening support above straight forelegs that set well under, giving free movement at the elbows. Shoulders should be well up, giving balance and soundness, sloping into a level back (never down or low). This gives a well developed chest and strength of forequarters. Feet - A small, dainty foot with toes well split up but not spread, pads cushioned. (Neither the hare nor the cat foot.) Dewclaws may be removed. Pasterns - Strong. Hindquarters: Muscular, with hocks well apart, neither out nor in, well let down, firm and sturdy. Angulation - Should equal that of forequarters. The feet are as in front. Dewclaws may be removed. Coat: In the Smooth Coats, the coat should be of soft texture, close and glossy. (Heavier coats with undercoats permissible.) Coat placed well over body with ruff on neck preferred, and more scanty on head and ears. Hair on tail preferred furry. In Long Coats, the coat should be of a soft texture, either flat or slightly wavy, with undercoat preferred. Ears - Fringed. Tail - Full and long (as a plume). Feathering on feet and legs, pants on hind legs and large ruff on the neck desired and preferred. (The Chihuahua should be groomed only to create a neat appearance.) Disqualification - In Long Coats, too thin coat that resembles bareness. Page 2 of 2 Color: Any color - Solid, marked or splashed. Gait: The Chihuahua should move swiftly with a firm, sturdy action, with good reach in front equal to the drive from the rear. From the rear, the hocks remain parallel to each other, and the foot fall of the rear legs follows directly behind that of the forelegs. The legs, both front and rear, will tend to converge slightly toward a central line of gravity as speed increases. The side view shows good, strong drive in the rear and plenty of reach in the front, with head carried high. The topline should remain firm and the backline level as the dog moves. Temperament: Alert, projecting the 'terrier-like' attitudes of self importance, confidence, self- reliance.
In the first place even that arrogant caller won't be able to define a pitbull. The best thing is to describe the dog but even then it is not so easy given that descriptions of each breed will be similar with others of the same lineage. So pictures are better. Try using words alone to describe the other dog breeds and let a friend guess what you are describing. So can you define a pitbull?
How can you 'extrapolate' your own biases without saying your biased? Your username is a joke. I doubt you have ever spent days Philosophically thinking because if you had you wouldn't claim such baseless facts. You cannot know what makes these dog types act the way they do. What makes a bad owner? In my mind it is one that doesn't think about the possibilities that dog ownership entails, the dogs most likely to attack are ones that are treated with 'love' and spoilt. I remember a time where real dog trainers would physically discipline dogs when they acted inappropriately and now with the new wave of byb many people don't bother doing it because it makes them feel bad and feel like an abusive animal owner so the dogs psychological placement is at the top and so of course they take charge and dominate over the weakest animals around them. Quite frankly your claim disgusts me. I could go on all day about this and destroy your pathetic arguments. Go sleep with dogs flea boy.
So, you support dogs that must be trained to be not dangerous? Really? You've just destroyed your own argument. These mutts are dangerous by nature... that's why they need training, right? There's no way out. The dog nutter argument destroys itself. It's about the breed. It's genetic.
There was a heartbreaking story in Canada, where a woman, who had two pitbull dogs since they were puppies, and raised them with love and care. She was also a babysitter. One day her dogs killed the baby she was taking care of. Just ripped him from her arms. The story I saw about it ended with her saying; no not all pitbulls will attack. But until you can tell me which ones will, and which ones won't. They should be banned. And I couldn't agree more
yess! 14 month old baby Daxton. may he rest in peace and his family find some peace. her last statement that you wrote here...spot on
Exactly .
These idiots do not want to admit how dangerous these dogs can be .. not even when confronted by facts & real evidence
@@antera77 Yes! That is the one I watched
took a fucking BABY'S LIFE for this dumb woman to find that out? little bit of google woulda done miracles. ignorant human beings. hope they all die from their useless mutts.
Thank you Kenneth Phillips for speaking out against these dangerous dogs. People want to draw up the most asinine excuses for what these mutants do,but there is no good reason why. There is only ONE solution and that is to ban the breed!
I have a shark in my pool he's a great guy he hasn't eaten anyone since last summer
@Pringles CAn i started to downvote you then I kept reading and got a really good laugh.
@@r00st3r11 Man this is some good mockery of pitnutter logic.
@dan nice Dan, your shark sounds like a real nanny.
bro good training on that shark. its not the shark, its the owner!!!
How do you know it's a shark? It could be a salmon or a goldfish, ya know.
I would love to see a Pitbull advocate have a formal debate with Kenneth Phillips. That would be really interesting and I think Kenneth Phillips would expose the pitbull lobby really effectively that way.
Agreed. I’d enjoy watching that debate
Why has nobody defined the definition of "pitbull? The British PM intends to ban all American Bully XL dogs by the end of the year and these are truly dangerous. But it seems that my seniors building in Toronto, Canada is being used as an experimental and breeding station building for these. The owner of several of these dogs, who is very antagonistic towards me, has allowed them to jump all over me several times, but I was never bitten. I believe the dogs did not bite me because they could sense no fear from me. Or, was I just lucky?
Pitbull problems in our neighborhood. They are killing our pets and wildlife here. I am afraid for the people/children here now.
Lay out some poison or hire an enforcer and pay him 300$ a Pitt bull head
I worked in a county shelter and I remember at least 5 pitbulls who were brought in to be euthanized because they mauled or killed people, including two children under six. The county coroner had to pick up the euthanized pits so they could be cut open to retrieve a child's body parts. And guess what? The shelter still adopted out pitbulls to families. Sometimes the pits would get into fights in the kennels and a water hose, being hit in the head with hard object, pepper spray, would not break up the fight. I only lasted there for 9 months before I got fed up.
I've noticed a pattern in the people advocating for pitbulls: criminals and tatted up leftwing childless adults. They project their victimhood mentality on these vicious dogs.
Unfortunately, there is a certain demographic that is over represented in owning pit bulls. What's more, as was shown by the Michael Vick case, this certain demographic also continues the tradition of dog fighting and breeding pitbulls for dog fighting. So on top of everything else, the sort of people who defend pitbulls, even if they're proud of their dog for ripping out another dog's throat last weekend, are also the sort of people that like to cry racism when they're caught running out of Target with a stack of free sneakers.
American leftwig, saviour complex gus, left is different here in Europe
Excellent points @laura
Thanks for waking up and sharing your story.
I know soooo many right wing folks that have pits, especially in the South. It’s part of the ‘I’m rough and tough’ mantra. There’s a whole shirt line with the rebel flag and a pit bull.
Rest in peace Hollace Bennard and Lily Bennard. Two sweet babies gone from this earth because of their parents' reckless disregard for common sense. Arrogant delusional people who thought it was more important to be pit bull "woke" than make responsible choices for their family.
They called the pitbulls their " House Lions " & their own "little security system".
Wonder how they feel now about pitbulls?..
The Nanny dog strikes again!
(RIP Holly amd Lily)
He speaks the honest truth here, totally. Most pit bull owners are very ignorant people. They like living risky and that's okay but they shouldn't risk other people and their property with their decisions. I don't think many of them actually know different breeds of dogs very well, that's why they don't know the difference between breeds. Some claim that they do but often they're pretty young people and there's no way they could know this in the time they've been alive.
Character attack? Is that all you got? You feel better now?
Good for you!
@Dustin Baker, I know personal accounts of pit bulls attacking people and their pets. It's happened to my own son, one of my own dogs as well. I personally know people who have had their animals mauled by by pit bulls. You need to live in reality. Today it's hard, some of us still do manage to.
@Dustin Baker Stop the inbreeding of pitbulls, I agree. Too many of them in shelters. Pretty sad for a breed people claim to love. That's telling in itself about this breed is seeing how easily they're abandoned.
I completely agree, there are reasons why pitties attack just like any other dog is because mainly how the owner treats it or if inbreeding happens thats how a dog becomes messed up. People don't have a right to be in this conversation unless they actually had the breed itself, its like a rumor. Don't just assume until you met the breed itself and had one on one time with it. Literally there are many many many pitbulls out there because people don't wanna give them a chance, I literally sleep perfectly fine with my sisters pitbull Max in the same bed as me. The only thing I hate is when he decides to sleep on the blanket im covered up with lol
The main reason for bad pit bulls and bad dogs in general is bad ownership. Pit bulls are harder to own than labs. Not because they’re bad dogs, they just take more effort than some other breeds. Owning a pit bull isn’t risky, at least not if you know what you’re doing
The only real life argument I’ve ever had about pit bulls was me presenting statistics and evidence that they are inherently dangerous, he said to stop talking about or he’d punch me in the face. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you a pit bull advocate.
In a nutshell. Empasis on 'nut'.
Pitnutters aren't dealing with a full deck, imo.
They want his law license taken away? lol the guy's specialty is dog attacks and he just noticed an alarming pattern and pointed it out. Pit advocates never cease to amaze lol.
I believe a lawyer who has see it all, versus pit apologists.
I’ve seen 5 pit bull attacks and 7 pets killed by them. I’ve never seen another breed maul, other breeds bite, not maul.
I have seen other breeds attack you just aren't looking hard enough I saw a video of a Rottweiler that tried to attack a vet. Understand this 90% of when a dog attacks is not because it's mad or vicious it's because it's afraid. Biting is a dog's only way of self-defense how would you act to defend yourself if you were afraid would you bite someone if you were being held down against your will.
The Wingless one Fowler : Sadly, Pits do not attack because they’re scared. They run across parking lots, school play yards to kill a child.
Other dogs attack because they’re scared. Pit bull breeds love the kill. That’s why they always wag their tail while killing.
Wow you know how statistically rare that is?? Way rarer than to be hit by lightning
@@thewinglessonefowler8604 Dogs don't attack when they're afraid. They tuck tail and run. That's where the expression tuck tail and run comes from.
@@cassiebennet4262 have u seen what a cornered dog does in that situation? If they can't escape then they do the only thing they can do attack
If it matters how the dog was raised, why are shelters allowed to adopt out pit bulls? If the history of the dog is unknown, as is the case with the majority of shelter pit bulls, it should be illegal to adopt out ANY pit bull from a shelter.
Again get it through your heads these dogs are not bred to be vicious they're not born with that ability they are given that ability through bad people who use them for their own selfish reasons haven't you ever heard of pit bull rings those are events made that are illegal in the animals are trained to be vicious and nine times out of ten the animal does not want to do it they are forced to do it against their will so learn about where the dog was actually bred and how it was invented before you jump to conclusions about one individual animal because of the way it looks and because of some history of a person who raced it wrong.
@@thewinglessonefowler8604 yeah we never breed dogs for their attributes...oh wait yes we do that is why we have sheepdogs,water dog(for retrieving ducks) hunting dogs, search dogs oh yeah and fighting dogs.
IKR?? pit nutters contradict their own points in so many kinds of ways that it would be super overwhelming to list them all at once
@@ceceliamacintosh2295 yeah lol
Because the Pit Bull lobby is strong. They are responsible for the barrage of lies
The pitbull is high-risk, low-reward at best.
The "poor abused Pit Bull" propaganda does not apply to Pit Bulls who were raised from puppies by loving, intelligent people.
Lies they still attack
Really 8 kids killed...... I know of 3 kids injured by Pit bulls one was a baby they took the dog to the top of 3 story building and thru it off the roof........ The father of the baby boy would have a lot to say about how dangerous Pit bulls are.... You are not playing with all your marbles if you own a pitbull
That's sad. The dog died when they threw it off the roof? I understand being mad at the dog, but it's not his fault. Hope it didn't suffer. I am no pitbull fan.
@@lizwheat1680 Yeah. It should have been humanely euthanised instead.
I am fully against pitbulls and think they should not be bred ever again, let them die off. But throwing an animal off a roof to die is fucking evil.
Should've just shot it
@@lizwheat1680 Not the best way to kill a vicious dog but the important thing is that it's dead and can't hurt anyone else.
People stop by to pop off with out hearing what the man has to say. Stop a moment to think. Ken Phillips is an attorney for attacked by dogs and has been doing it since the 1990's. The man makes his living off of dog bites, so he has first hand knowledge of what happens with them. At some point people have got to have respect for the man saying what he is observing is dangerous, even though that stance is not conducive to him earning a living.
Thank you Rover's Morning Glory and the radio station, along with Mr. Phillips in allowing this message to go out.
No. What he is saying is purely biased and ignorantly flawed logic based. He's not a dog expert. Look what you said; "He deals with dog bites at a Law Firm." That is like taking one side of a graph, and ignoring the rest of information on a graph.
Dog trainers like Caesar Millan, and many others (animal behaviorists) and veterinarians have proven Pit Bulls are perfectly fine. Of course he is going to have a large variety case of Pit Bull attacks, because most people who own Pit Bulls only want them because of their bad stigma ("Oh, they'll fuck someone up!") / ("They're scary bad dogs! Nobody will fuck with me!") - You got ghetto people owning these breeds, who have no interest in dogs, or knowledge of dogs in general. They end up being tied up with lack of socialization, nor exercise, etc.
That's the type of people whom walk into his law firm. Notice how the media is filled with stories; "Neighbor's Pit Bull Attacks..." / "Family Friend's Pit Bull Attacks..." These almost always happen in ghetto, and or low income neighborhoods, owned by problematic Pit Bull.
A dog like a Pit Bull isn't going to attack someone when properly raised and socialized.
They are not for first time owners type dogs. They require knowledge, and experience. People who own them, do not have any of that.
Get real. His argument is an actual joke - people only hate these dogs, because of media fuel. Simple as that. You're more likely to die in a car accident then ever coming across a Pit Bull and getting mauled.
Water Boxes till a pit bull rapes your child, and walks out of the House with the child still locked up.
#Genocidepitbulls
Water Boxes Pitbull in Lockport NY raped a 2 year old in 2007, get fucked.
#Genocidepitbulls
Water Boxes Pitbull kill, I've never heard of any other breeds owners lining to defend their killer beast the way pit bull owners do.
I hate to tell you Water Boxes, but partytyme1000 is correct. That did happen. The child sustained some terrible injuries because of it.
As a dog lover and an attorney who also represents victims of dog attacks, Kenneth is ABSOLUTELY correct about pit bull breeds. They need to be banned.
I would love to see more interviews with Kenneth Phillips and other attorneys like yourself on this topic - the issue deserves more coverage!
I live in the UK where they have been a banned breed for decades and yet there are numerous Pits and their various mixes in society. Other breeds that have recently killed people in the UK are American Bulldogs and Bully XLs and yet there is no mention of banning these breeds !
I find it interesting that American XL are legal there because they were bred from pitbulls
all dogs need to be banned. they re all disgusting, shit and vomit eating, killers. fuck em all. kill them all. no rest till they rest.
2965 that's a bully mutt its not a real American pitbull it does share some of the DNA but its like a watered down alcohol drink
I recommend people watching the UA-cam video by Invictus "pit bulls are inherently more dangerous". There the stats are 53% of unprovoked attacks by dogs are committed by pit bulls. Of that pitbull's account for 64% of fatal attacks. That's more than all the other breeds combined. And pitbulls only represent 5% of dog breeds.
I'm not sure of the Freudian psychosexual dynamic of why people defend psychopathically violent and unpredictable dogs like pit bulls. I assume that it has something to do with vicarious toughness and, more specifically, it's a tiny peener thing.
"ill trade credentials with you anytime." mic drop. poor kid on the phone tried but is a mouse against a lion.
😅😅😅😅😅😅 real talk shut his feelings ass right up quick. 😅😅😅😅
I'm in Ocean County NJ. Our shelters are filled with PB. It is a tragedy.
Wild animals are labeled dangerous because of their strength and ability to do severe damage to people and other animals........ A lion is still a lion even if its raised by a loving family...... The lion is incredibly strong and attacks by instinct its natural for a lion to attack but its not the attack that's the problem the thing is that the lions strength is the problem..... It doesn't know its own strength and will kill someone not meaning to kill that person........ Same thing with a shark its way to dangerous strong and powerful to be a family pet..... A pitbull is incredibly powerful and has the strength of a wild animal on that basis alone it is dangerous to have as a pet..... That is why the government needs to step in and change the laws making it illegal to own a pitbull.........
Joan Marie right on. People don't want to acknowlge this. Doctors that treat pitbull attack victims compare their injuries to shark attacks...just think about that.
@Enigma McC this dog bite lawyer just said they're responsible for 75% of dog attacks. Listen to him, moron.
@@cho6140 ANIMAL ATTACKS read the comment and shut up
@@riptile3088 Stop using your pitbull as a weapon fight your own battles...
crasher xero you’re clearly the typical pit nutter. I’m gobsmacked that you’ve actually edited that comment and it still sounds like the ramblings of a smooth brain.
you are trying to translate dog mentality into human mentality. You can't just can't understand another species in "human" terms. Retrievers view retrieving as "fun and engaging", Greyhounds view running and chasing and speed as "fun and engagin" unfortunately once in the mode which is very easy to enter pit bull breed will view incessant chase and attack and return and attack as "fun and engaging" they don't view it as evil they view it as "fun and engaging" since it was bred to do just that kind of behavior. You see dogs don't view "bad" or "good" they view what they are programmed to do. Therefore we are not compatible with such mentality, humans are just not compatible
About the Pitbull issue, regarding people who defend Pitbull ownership:
-People dont understand statistics or dont want them in the conversation or dont care what precludes certain statistical figures. Period. For them it only counts a sample size of n=1.
-People dont understand science (breeding, genetics (phenotype and genotype)
-People dont want to be wrong about the breed they chose to "love".
This man is absolutely spot on !!
Just saw a video of a Pitbull at a dog show in China attacking a husky.
Dustin Baker resource guarding. They don’t want anything else to get a hold of their toys.
@@canadablake they got to protect their food. It's only natural.
It was a dog show, they weren't eating or guarding food.
Pittbulls are a minority owned breed, yet. They represent 66% of fatal dog attacks two folds more than the rest of all other breeds combined. And yes, I am a dog owner.
Getting a pitbull to stand down without use of force is almost impossible as opposed to other breeds.
Irresponsible owners of less dangerous breeds rarely make it to the tragic headlines.
Irresponsible owners of pitbulls often do .
There's your answer.
This! They don't stand down. The woman telling the story of her boxer attacking her, as awful as that is, is not the same as a pit attacking. Other dogs will abandon the victim if they're challenged or injured. I was attacked by my brothers boxer years ago and a swift punch to the face got him to let go and back off. I've seen pitbulls get kicked 5 feet away by a horse and still go back. Hell, the recent video out of the US where firemen are hitting them with axes and they don't care. Tunnel vision. They don't give up until they are killed.
💯 There’s your answer! AMEN!!!
@@Liannabelle8 Genetics trump training. Bully breeds (even though the bully advocates say they are not breeds) were bred to fight so it is kill or be killed for them. I actually don't blame these dogs for behaving what they were bred to do. Yes, they are extremely dangerous but I blame the breeders, the owners and their advocates more. They exist because of these humans..
I am sure there are some docile bullies who never hurt a family from their birth until their death. However, it is a risk because you'll never know if you got the docile one or the one that will suddenly get triggered out of nowhere and then attack and kill you down the road.
Amazing our public laws tolerate violent dogs kept as pets in our neighborhoods. Home owner insurance companies have bans on certain breeds but the bans are ignored by owners and renters, who remove the dog for inspection and bring it back when all is clear.
Why do these people completely ignore statistics ?? It feels like banging your head against a brick wall when trying to get through to them, they just repeat the same things
I've had 2 pitbulls, both territorial. I put both to sleep. One attacked both of my other dogs, unprovoked. The other nipped by daughter. The next time she could have went for her throat. I hate pitbulls
Thank you Ken you have saved numerous lives with this video All the best
Unfortunately, the pitbull attack fatalities have gotten worse..😢
The last guys whole argument was “I know you are, but what am I”.
The lawyer must be able to identify by fact what a pitbull is before he can even conduct research for his other points. The Lawyer claims the pitbull is the American Staffordshire terrier then later claims the Pitbull is every dog or dog breed that has a Blocky head and a big chest.
So The lawyer in one breath sets the foundation for comparison’s between American Staffordshire to other dog breeds, then changes the foundations for comparison, classifying the Pitbull as 10 or more different dog breeds vs every other dog breed as a singular dog breed individually, 10 vs 1 is disingenuous misleading & rigged. The English bulldog, English Staffordshire terrier, American Staffordshire terrier, American bully, bullterrier, American pittbul, Boxer,Old English bull dog, Connie Corso, Bullmastiff, are all recognised as different breeds & each breed can be identified by DNA. The guy on the phone is not playing semantics he’s Point is a fact, the lawyer Point in response is only his subjective truth.
The lawyers Salt water point only disproof his own point because once salt is added to water it is no longer Salt or freshwater it is salt water, this method is the reason we have different drinks & recipe’s, medications ect & why Coke & Fanta are not the same drink just because they both have sugar, they both have a combination of different ingredients that create a different outcome in taste. Many medication will use a ingredient but the combination overall create a different outcome,I wonder if he thinks spaghetti is salt.
@@deansmith230 I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here. A lawyer doesn’t have to identify anything. They’ll call expert witnesses when they need to. For example. A lawyer isn’t go in front of a judge and explain an autopsy or medical findings, he’s going to call the Coroner or a doctor to the stand. If identifying dog breeds, they’re going to call a veterinarian or breeder to the stand.
Other than that, a lawyers whole job is to spin the story to make a judge or jury side with them.
@@canadablake yes he needs to utilise expert‘s to have a factual basis to his argument, he fails to produce that.
@@deansmith230 So can you define what a pitbull is?
@@whatevergoesforme5129 pitbull is most commonly known as a American rapper but Pitbull can extend to anyone that identifies as a Pitbull.
He is right! I have seen that video of the pit hanging from the tire. These dogs are NOT family pets,nor should they ever be!
Bully and silence.
That's all these Pit nutters know how to do.
Nanny dog debunk @ 19:42
Blind man created the nanny dog and that same nanny dog killed his nephew
god bless this lawyer!! finally some sense.
1909 Dog Bite Fatality: John P. Colby's Fighting Pit Bull Kills Nephew
A pitbull attacked and killed a stray dog walking up my street in 1996 The pitbull grab the stray dog by the neck and ripped his neck out....... The men had to hit the pitbull over the head with a bat numerous times before it let go of the stray dog.... The cops took the dog and the dog was killed by injection..... Kids where playing on the street lots of kids we got lucky the pitbull didn't attack one of the kids....
i had to fend off my neighbors pitbull with my metal bat when it attacked my dog. only time in my life where i considered if i should own a gun or not
Pit mauled to death a cat 3 weeks ago. The dog ate lead in the head. It could have been a child.
A pitbull & pitbull mix mauled a young lady in Texas, Dec.2021. ATE her face & ears off, tore all her clothes off, 800- 1000 bites, dragging her through the house.
Shelters adopt these "pets" out everyday? WTF?!?
It's the fact that they're so unpredictable is what makes them so dangerous !
Actually they are very predictable
Are u fucking stupid
@@train_go_boom2065 Shut uuuuuuup. you have no idea what ur talking about. When a dog gets mad you can tell. Stop commenting "are you f'ing stupid" when you have absolutely no idea what ur talking about
@Dustin Baker he isn't the dumb one trying to use mental gymnastics to support a breed of dog that is known to be violent no matter what facts and stats you are shown. Pitnutters are just as gullible as antivaxxers, no matter how many facts you give em they still insist that their precious little pibble is the sweetest little thingy in the world until it kills/seriously injures their kid or another child.
@Dustin Baker wow who are you trying to convince here me or yourself?
This Attorney is a Hero !
Anyone...doctor or lawyer who gives advice against the ownership of dangerous animals
....with nothing but a motive to help prevent
injury, disfigurement or death.....should NOT be criticized, threatened or attacked.
Such people should even be thanked, helped and massively heard.
Shame on those who threaten these well meaning folk.
Gotta have Ken. He know what he saying. 100% expert❤
I trained my dog to kill my son is the greatest comeback ever heard
lmao this man is the realist bro he said its like saying i voted for such and such they should be president the person he choose i dont even want to pretend someone voted for lmao
Continue to speak the truth attorney Kenneth Phillips.
Children mauled by pit bulls. I love dogs but there's no way in hell I would have a pitbull around my kid because there's something my kid can do to trigger that dog and I'm just not willing to risk it
Agreed. What is wrong with a Collie or a Doxon as a family pet? PB are fearfully made but like a landmine.
@@Gentilejedi absolutely.
Pits can be a family pet also
Pitbulls aren’t for everyone if you’re afraid they might attack your kids or any other pets you might have then don’t get one
@@train_go_boom2065 No they can't.
Dogfighter slang is "lockjaw." It's not a lock and key. It means a pit bull can latch on and not let go. Why are "bulldog clips" called "bulldog clips?"
lock jaw is a myth you didlo
@@user-em6yy2do6t It's worse they bite down and won't let go, so the dog chooses to keep the bite locked.
@@r00st3r11 thats fake news, no such thing as lock jaw
there is no mechanical locking mechanism, but their jaws are so wide that they do not need to release in order to breath. And they have 'gameness', meaning they would literally rather die than release their target once their prey drive has been triggered.
@@user-em6yy2do6t thank pitrump read my comment, it literally says there isn't ,but it's worse they are bred to bite down and not let go.
Perfect dog for gamblers, you take one home you're rolling the dice.....
I know another guy in my Seniors' building who was started when the resident American Bully XXL suddenly lunged at him, hitting a clipboard which he was holdng up. Although that contact did no harm by itself, he was so startled by this that he had a heartattack. I just learned to-day that he has been returned to the hospital for more treatments.
Bird dogs point.
Cattle dogs herd.
Pits kill.
XL Pits are being bred, 130-150 lb.
The lawyer is spot on, expert.
And sadly, pits are horribly abused, used for fighting, ppl get other dogs to feed to pits.
A “never been aggressive” pit/mixed pit are easily triggered by sudden noises, a shriek, sudden movement.
A family had a newborn, 3 days old, wife baby husband pit in bed watching TV. Mom coughed, pit turned made eye contact w the baby & killed the infant.
So the 1st woman caller wants to wait until the dog attacks, maims or kills before it’s deemed dangerous.
They’re bred to kill.
Mr Phillips has accurate information that can save lives.
I’ve read info by Doctors, Phillips has knowledge by experience.
Any dog can bite. But it’s much more severe with the power, jaw strength, tenacity of a pit/mix/large headed dog.
The trauma is horrific, amputations, flesh torn off, maimed for life, or killed.
They kill pets, easily triggered, high prey drive.
Ppl need to take heed.
Thanks for being honest Kathryn.
If there are 5 million pit bulls in the United States that means, even if we go cheap with .22 long rifle at five cents a bullet, it will take at least $250,000 to solve the Pitbull problem.
I have a friend that will fight over ‘that’s not really an American pit bull terrier!’ I don’t care. Like he said- it’s a TYPE of dog. Just like saying mastiff or shepherd.
And if you ask that friend to define an APBT, I doubt he can give a sound definition because words can't truly define the different breeds properly. And it is actually "describe' and not define which that AH caller used as if he could define a pitbull himself LOL. Heck, how can someone define a German Shepherd or a shih tzu properly or even describe them without also describing a similar looking dog.
Look at the stats. The answer is pretty clear: yes they are. And they should be stamped out.
1. yes we can tell a pit by sight
2. If pits arent dangerous why do they have to be "trained properly" not to maul infants and kill smaller animals (pets)
3. If theyre so lovely why are pitbulls the #1 nost returned breed to adoption agencies?
4. Why are pit rescues constantly caught reselling dogs that have been returned after a bite or scare from aggressive behavior under a different name
5. Why are pit rescues constantly exposed for using deceptive practices to "save thes dogs".
Rescue centers lie about their bully dogs so they could get rid of them as you mentioned. I watched a video about Blue who killed this old woman a few days after she volunteered to foster him. Looking at his pics, he had this nice face with the big grin and the caption under his pics (from the shelter) depicted him as a very loving dog. Imagine, killing someone who wanted to rehabilitate him just days after she got him.
TOTALLY AGREE WITH THIS LAWYER, I DO NOT TRUST PITBULLS AT ALL BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN ONE WILL SNAP!
The problem with Pitbulls is that they are an aggressive race of dog, and yes they can be breed to be calm and good but you have to be a special kinf of person to do that the average joe is not going to raise them well they should be at least mandatory licence for owners making sure you get the right péople to adopt them.
The problem is they're still being bred. Need Sterilization& letvthe breed die out. Dogfighting was outlawed in the 70's, the dogs should've been too.
@@sammy9103 Pit Bulls have been banned in the UK for the last few decades and yet there are many still at large, including many pups plus Pit Bull mixes.
@@TheHumbuckerboy I know, it's a problem everywhere it seems, Australia & Canada too.
We need good breeders who will work on breeding the aggression out of them.
If that happens, then I'm happy to advocate for them.
@@sammy9103 I just found out yesterday that there are still a lot here in Australia, which just makes me sad.
In all my life I have only ever come across one Pitbull, and the owner was a very responsible owner.
Kids aren't allowed anywhere near that dog, and he takes very special precautions with that dog.
Well, as a retired barrister i can say with certainty, Kenny just got a lot of free publicity.
Thanks for this video, very engaging.
Pitbulls need to be banned in this country.
What parents should be telling their kids starting at a very young age, "Never put your face close to any animal".
Most cases of death or mauling is of family members and a dog that was raised from a puppy in a loving home. One woman sneezed with her dog and baby on the bed and the Pit Bull reacted by instantly killing the newborn. Because of a sneeze. That dog was never abused and like switching on the light it killed a baby.
America has a hard time distinguishing between emotions and objective truth.
A lot of Americans don't just lack in intelligence but emotional maturity
They are not a breed for everyone. You have to know how to handle agressive dogs with dominant personalities. My best farm k9 was half working line GSD and half timber wolf. She was a dangerous animal but that is what you need on my farm. It takes 2 good dogs to replace her. We have a coyote problem. Everyone says coyotes do not pack up but I am a biologist and I am.seeing it happen. I need k9s who can take out a coyote in one bite.
Rover whenever you get a caller like that pakistan guy who wont be repsectful and hes talking over the guest then mute them or end the call they can get corrected off the phone
I know what a pit pull is.
They are the dogs that are killing children in all these UA-cam videos I watch over the past 2 days.
I have a really good idea of what they look like.
Read how Michael Vick "selectively bred" his Pit Bulls. he killed the dogs that lost their fights or refused to continue fighting and bred the dogs that were relentless fighters that fought and won. What kind of dogs do you think you get from this kind of breeding program? This is not something that Vick invented, he got it from the existing fighting dog culture.
That is why I hate these evil breeders and those who love blood sports for entertainment more because these dogs couldn't help what they are. Their breeders made them the killing machines that they are today and also the mixed ones. Breeders could have chosen to breed out the ferocity out of this bully breeds. I learned that the English bulldog used to be massive but breeding out its ferocity through the years made it smaller now (but I don't know how dangerous still).
My homeowners made me disclose the type of breeds I own. The Jack Russell was a menace NOT dangerous just a menace.
I was mauled by a retired police dog when I was 10 or 11. Bruce was a German Shepherd, as were nearly all police dogs in that era. I had played with Bruce for years before the attack, but he was always off chain. This time he was chained to a doghouse while the owners and my family woked in the garden. I had never been warned that when Bruce was on a leash or chain, he considered himself on duty. Lucky for me his chain was short and as he jumped on me, biting me, I was propelled backwards and eventually I was out of reach . I don't think Shepherds should be banned, but I do think Pits should. My daughter took in a pit from a rescue. Within one month, he grabbed the best friend of my granddaughter, by the forehead and pulled her off the sofa. At least 6 people (4 adults) in the room, all watching a movie. No sudden noise or action. That bite tore her open to the skull. They immediately surrendered that dog to the pound.
I’ve had a pitbull while growing up and don’t hate the breed but how is it even a debate over a dog and human safety. It is sad there is many pit’s that won’t hurt or be aggressive but we can risk human life when we can’t differentiate them from the lethal weapons. Do we have to Wait till the people advocating for them lose their child or pet to have a change of heart?
This is similar to the case involving Sandra Herold, Charla Nash, and Travis the chimpanzee. Sober risk assessment is always in order when dealing with unpredictable/unstable animals.
They are a higher risk
Yes
bro is my guy phillips good he looks like he did a gram of concentrate
Pitbulls have natural high game drive & high pain tolerance which makes it hard to stop them & loose cannons they were never bred to be in family home around pets or children
it is not "bitten" please stop saying "bitten" it's destroying
its murdering.
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When people want to be stupid and deny facts, your wasting your time on them until their child is attacked and some are so stupid they will still deny the facts!
Hi Ken thank you for this video....... Pit bulls have mechanical jaws that lock when they bite down their jaws are incredibly powerful the callers are trying to compare Pit bulls to other breeds of dogs but the FACT is that Pit bulls are in a category all alone..... They are dangerous by nature not by lifestyle.... The reason drug dealers or low income people have pittbulls is to intimidate everyone and scare people but then they say Pit bulls are harmless but if they were harmless they would not own a pitbull.... Drug dealers lived across the street from my boyfriends apartment for 4 months they had Pit bulls for the very reason that they are so strong and vicious its a fact....
Pitbulls were bred for lots of things but non of them are agresiveness
Maddison Pharis you are delusional
@@PariahQuail how?
Their jaws don't lock lol thats a myth. They are just hardwired to not let go...
Waylon Mercy madison pops up on all these anti pit videos. She’s a top tier nutter.
To the female caller saying it's any animal: WRONG. A beagle does not have the size nor the jaw strength a pit has. Lady you are clueless. You were bit by your beagle.... I was bit by A POLICE DOG... and we are BOTH still alive lady. It is about the jaw strength, the size and weight of the dog.
The last caller is a typical aggressive pit bull owner who talks 💩💩and blames everyone else 😊
Yeah, he was damn annoying and wrong.
Do you of a Canadian lawyer who does what you do. please?
I've posted comments about the dangers of pitbulls on some pro- pitbull utubes, and they take the comments down. They don't want to hear anything that contradicts their narrative of the cuddly family friendly pup who sleeps with their children and loves everybody.
Chris Heben
THEY BEEN RAISED FOR GAMENESS FOR OVER 100 YEARS.
The Ben Shapiro of pit bulls
Farmers insurance will insure trouble horses and mules
Dogs do what their genetics tell them to do. Mastiffs, GSDs, Malis etc guard, border collies herd, greyhounds chase etc etc but according to the pit bull advocates, game bred fighting dogs are the exception to breed speific behaviour which seems to me delusional.
There is no lock jaw. It's a strong massater and temporalis muscle in the head. I'm a vet and we study this in vet school
It's their gameness trait.
It seems to me they are just more mentally committed to bite down and not let go and this comes from strong instincts bred in to them over the last few centuries.
You can see their is a diffence in how breeds of dogs tend to bite by watching an Australian cattle dog work compared to a border collie; the cattle dog will nip more because it was bred to chase cattle rather than sheep.
Good for you.
There is a certain thing called karma too
As an attorney, KEN KNEW that called NEVER said that people were training their dsogs to kill specific people. The caller was making the point that many owners of pitbull type dogs encourage GENERAL agression and fail to properly socialize and train their dogs.
I don’t get it. If you have a choice between the 20 cal or the grenade launcher, which one you think is gonna do the least amount of damage?. Why do these people have to have this particular breed and why are they so adamant that they must have this particular dog. Even if the risk is tiny why would you put your child around that? I wouldn’t put my child around any large dog but a pit Bull? Doesn’t that defy maternal instinct? What am I missing?
i do my research and dude had that one point of the pitbull not being a pitbull after testing but to me that doesnt change shit the dude was just trying to side track the coversation
Yes exactly.
I've done heaps of research myself and the one thing he did get wrong is the lock jaw.
That's actually part of the gameness trait that only Pitbulls have.
There is great mix of true and misinformation here, it is sad. The attorney makes some points but makes a lot of loose comments, like “John P Colby invented the American Standforshire terrier” that’s so wrong, also the standfoshire bull terrier, it’s a whole different breed. Also dogs in England that were baiting bulls where literally old English bulldogs and the dog fighting ones where bulldog terriers mixes, not defined as APBT.
Human aggression is highly uncommon among “Game/ sports/ hunting” APBT.
The actual description of what he says is a Pit-bull type dog is so wrong in deed because is so vague, so we can say ( all thick dogs with big head and muscular complexion who bites a kid is a Pitbull) this is so wrong.
But I agree when he says Pitbull type dogs or dogs who have lineage of an American Pitbull terrier shouldn’t be in the hands of just any owner, any powerful breed as a matter of fact should have the right owner.
Dog aggressive, yes
but yet proving more & more with each increasing attack that they're also Human aggressive
Even legendary breeder, John Colby's pitbull, fatally mauled his own nephew back in the day & he did not cull the mauler.
He went on to Breed it.
So define a pitbull. It is hard to define some animals clearly because of the variety. We can only go by description that sometimes approximates certain aspects that my also describe other dogs because we are using words and not picture.
Like how does one define an old English bulldog vs the English bulldog we have now aside from the difference in size? Or define a French bulldog or a bull mastiff. Define a German Shepherd.
That caller was an arrogant AH since I doubt he could define a pitbull himself. And the better wording should be 'describe" because you are supposed to describe the features and traits of the dog but then the words alone may also describe another dog with similar features,
@@whatevergoesforme5129 There's 4 types
APBT
American Bully
Bull terrier
Staffordshire terrier
XL Bully in the UK was just Banned.
@@Sammy-mp9xn That is not a definition of a pitbull and that is why that arrogant AH caller should have been asked to define a pitbull himself. Sometimes, mere words can't define or describe (which the lawyer did) an object, event, animal, etc properly that a picture is needed. If I hadn't seen pics of those dogs you listed (so you gave me a list and not a definition), then I wouldn't have an idea of what those dogs look like. That is why many people don't have any idea of the other rare breeds and even some breeds that other know because mere words can't fully define nor describe them and won't give a clear picture in one's mind.
I hate dogs.
Dognuts will hate me while they pick up dog shit 😂. While I watch in disgust.
I try to rescue the meanest pitbull manbiter anybody had ever seen
U gotta know when to put one down
He is wrong if its a game dog it goes after anything that moves
I'm not dangerous 🤣
Apbt is a breed not a type of dog. Just because see the akc doesn’t recognize it as a breed doesn’t mean it’s not. UKC recognizes it as a breed and has for a while now. People also breed that’s what makes kids. One of the dumbest attorneys I’ve ever seen or heard.
He meant breeding for traits and not just breeding to produce kids as the natural outcome of mating. This interview was years ago and he was fighting with people who will say pitbulls were not breeds. Even now, some vets will say that the pitbull is not really a breed
Last dude is seething so hard
The caller needs to ask himself WHY are other dogs not killing LEFT RIGHT AND CENTRE if he’s right about it being the owners fault, because ALL breeds of dogs are mistreated and abused
Wow.I was on board but not being able to define it is very shaky ground.
Define a Chihuahua.
@@The_ScapeGoat Official Standard of the Chihuahua
General Appearance: A graceful, alert, swift-moving compact little dog with saucy expression, and with terrier-like qualities of temperament.
Size, Proportion, Substance: Weight - A well balanced little dog not to exceed 6
pounds. Proportion - The body is off-square; hence, slightly longer when measured from point of shoulder to point of buttocks than height at the withers. Somewhat shorter bodies are preferred in males. Disqualification - Any dog over 6 pounds in weight.
Head: A well rounded "apple dome" skull, with or without molera. Expression - Saucy. Eyes - Full, round, but not protruding, balanced, set well apart-luminous dark or luminous ruby. Light eyes in blond or white-colored dogs permissible. Blue eyes or a difference in the color of the iris in the two eyes, or two different colors within one iris should be considered a serious
fault. Ears - Large, erect type ears, held more upright when alert, but flaring to the sides at a 45 degree angle when in repose, giving breadth between the ears. Stop - Well defined. When viewed in profile, it forms a near 90 degree angle where muzzle joins skull. Muzzle - Moderately short, slightly pointed. Cheeks and jaws lean. Nose - Self-colored in blond types, or black. In moles, blues, and chocolates, they are self-colored. In blond types, pink noses permissible. Bite - Level or scissors. Overshot or undershot, or any distortion of the bite or jaw, should be penalized as a serious fault. A missing tooth or two is permissible. Disqualifications - Broken down or cropped ears.
Neck, Topline, Body: Neck - Slightly arched, gracefully sloping into lean shoulders. Topline- Level. Body - Ribs rounded and well sprung (but not too much "barrel-shaped"). Tail - Moderately long, carried sickle either up or out, or in a loop over the back with tip just touching the back. (Never tucked between legs.) Disqualifications - Docked tail, bobtail.
Forequarters: Shoulders - Lean, sloping into a slightly broadening support above straight forelegs that set well under, giving free movement at the elbows. Shoulders should be well up, giving balance and soundness, sloping into a level back (never down or low). This gives a well developed chest and strength of forequarters. Feet - A small, dainty foot with toes well split up but not spread, pads cushioned. (Neither the hare nor the cat foot.) Dewclaws may be removed. Pasterns - Strong.
Hindquarters: Muscular, with hocks well apart, neither out nor in, well let down, firm and sturdy. Angulation - Should equal that of forequarters. The feet are as in front. Dewclaws may be removed.
Coat: In the Smooth Coats, the coat should be of soft texture, close and glossy. (Heavier coats with undercoats permissible.) Coat placed well over body with ruff on neck preferred, and more scanty on head and ears. Hair on tail preferred furry. In Long Coats, the coat should be of a soft texture, either flat or slightly wavy, with undercoat preferred. Ears - Fringed. Tail - Full and long (as a plume). Feathering on feet and legs, pants on hind legs and large ruff on the neck desired and preferred. (The Chihuahua should be groomed only to create a neat
appearance.) Disqualification - In Long Coats, too thin coat that resembles bareness.
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Color: Any color - Solid, marked or splashed.
Gait: The Chihuahua should move swiftly with a firm, sturdy action, with good reach in front equal to the drive from the rear. From the rear, the hocks remain parallel to each other, and the foot fall of the rear legs follows directly behind that of the forelegs. The legs, both front and rear, will tend to converge slightly toward a central line of gravity as speed increases. The side view shows good, strong drive in the rear and plenty of reach in the front, with head carried high. The topline should remain firm and the backline level as the dog moves.
Temperament: Alert, projecting the 'terrier-like' attitudes of self importance, confidence, self- reliance.
In the first place even that arrogant caller won't be able to define a pitbull. The best thing is to describe the dog but even then it is not so easy given that descriptions of each breed will be similar with others of the same lineage. So pictures are better. Try using words alone to describe the other dog breeds and let a friend guess what you are describing.
So can you define a pitbull?
He’s extrapilating these figures are about the breed and they’re not. They’re due to bad training and bad owners.
How can you 'extrapolate' your own biases without saying your biased?
Your username is a joke. I doubt you have ever spent days Philosophically thinking because if you had you wouldn't claim such baseless facts.
You cannot know what makes these dog types act the way they do. What makes a bad owner? In my mind it is one that doesn't think about the possibilities that dog ownership entails, the dogs most likely to attack are ones that are treated with 'love' and spoilt. I remember a time where real dog trainers would physically discipline dogs when they acted inappropriately and now with the new wave of byb many people don't bother doing it because it makes them feel bad and feel like an abusive animal owner so the dogs psychological placement is at the top and so of course they take charge and dominate over the weakest animals around them.
Quite frankly your claim disgusts me.
I could go on all day about this and destroy your pathetic arguments.
Go sleep with dogs flea boy.
So, you support dogs that must be trained to be not dangerous? Really? You've just destroyed your own argument. These mutts are dangerous by nature... that's why they need training, right? There's no way out. The dog nutter argument destroys itself. It's about the breed. It's genetic.
No such thing as a bad owner. Only bad dogs