Should pit bulls be banned? The BT panel debates
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- Опубліковано 14 чер 2024
- National Post columnist Barbara Kay, animal behaviourist Gaby Dufresne-Cyr, Nicholas Gilman from the Montreal SPCA, and pit bull owner Meira Frankl join Derick Fage to debate pit bull bans.
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Border collie- bred for herding
Bloodhound- bred for sniffing
Lab- bred for retrieving
Pit Bull- it depends on the owner!
Pitbull lovers are known pathological liars
Right these people are dumb!
Exactly. People who own a pit bull are endangering everyone who lives around them. Destroy the animal arrest the owner.
Lol ikr 🙄
Cap 🧢
As traumatizing to be bitten by a chihuahua as a pitbull.That may be true but the damage is not comparable.Beyond stupidity is her statement!
nibsvkh Beyond stupidity is your grammar.
@@chronicfemcel3620 But that doesn't change the substance of what he said.
Chihuahuas can bite but pitbulls bite to kill !!!!! There are many many owners that did everything right but stil their pitbulls attacked and killed dogs, children ect....
Its not the pitbulls fault ether, maby there meant to be out in the wild like wolfs. They are a lot like wolfs. I dont think they are meant to be pets.
Comparing bites with dogs is beyond stupidity. Dogs should never bite as pets from chihuahuas to Great Danes. Sure, her statement is stupid, but you’re using that to gaslight the narrative that pits are terrible dogs. Trained correctly, they are just like any other dogs. No dog after correct obedience training should ever bite with aggression.
Hate when people use an example against someone as if that was the main point. Gaslight and circle jerk liking this poor analysis comment
@@suntzu7727 yes, picking at grammar on YT is moot. However, that shouldn’t make what that person said more correct. It’s skewed data used to gaslight pit owners. It’s a joke. No correctly trained obedient dog should ever be biting strangers like this commenter is insinuating. Seriously, the past month, I feel like there has been a breed of humans that have taken a step back in logic, common sense, and overall intelligence. Probably years ago, but y’all are so on track minded, that you forgot how to take a step back and at least take 3 seconds to think in the other person’s shoes before Undermining them
"it's not the dog, it's the owner!" ok, then ban all pitbull owners.
Yeah we should because banning a dog and killing it is ok but the owners is not okay people like you are a waste of oxygen people where born humans by chance dogs where to nobody asked to be a certain someone idiot
Ban Ignorant people like you
@@honey-suckle3228 That's rich of you to call somebody an idiot when you can barely type English. I mean seriously, wtf did you just say? I've repeated this so many times but here we go...pitbulls only make up 6% of the US dog population, but are responsible for well over half of all FATAL dog attacks... That means that despite not having the numbers, pits still manage to kill over half of all people attacked by dogs. No argument for that
Correction. Ban all abusive owners.
@@lllaserfoxgaming8196 So are you saying that it is only abusive owners who have been attacked and killed by their own Pit Bulls ?
Lmao I love how when we are shopping for dogs you compare different breeds for natural tendencies that you want: guard dogs, family dogs, bird hunting dogs, shepherd type dogs for livestock.... but then pit bulls are the ONLY breed that seems to be a perfectly blank slate, with absolutely zero natural inclinations for any type of behavior
Christopher D Richardson Bull Terriers, English Bulldogs, and many Mastiff breeds were bred for fighting, but no one wants to ban those. Guard dog breeds tend to attack a lot too, no one wants to ban those.
Um... killing/fighting dogs?...
Lonnie Havard tell that to the dozens of dead children who had their faces ripped off by these fighting AND killing dogs. The the ringleaders who killed pit bulls for letting go of their victim after being hit so that future dogs would rather die than let go.
Raven Is A Lozer the difference is that pit bulls are responsible for about half of dog attacks while EVERY OTHER DOG COMBINED are responsible for the rest.
Lonnie Havard they were bred for blood sports. The best dogs moved on, the weaker dogs got killed.
I don't care to hear about the excuses or how many are vicious or not, the owner, etc ... any dog that attacks someone every 16 days needs to be gotten rid of
@@119jle 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
To me that goes to humans to why not start killing humans that do the same thing
Yeah, shitbulls are dangerous and a menace to any neighborhood
Pitbulls are still terrible and kill the most people.
So by your logic people in the inner-city cities who shot someone on a daily basis should be gotten rid of. Well said stupid
All things equal... I would MUCH RATHER be bitten by a chihuahua ... do we have to debate this?
Maurice湯 茂 林 but all dogs have the ability to bite and kill! Insert sarcasm
Pit creamers like to compare them to Chihuahuas. Last I checked there aren't a bunch of videos and news articles of them killing their owners and children in just the last few months alone
Austin Ayers that’s because the media doesn’t enjoy sensationalising chihuahua attacks as much as they enjoy sensationalising pit bull attacks. People like to argue that it’s the dog’s ability to inflict a lot of damage that matters, but in reality, there are so many more useful laws we can implement that would prevent ANY dog from becoming aggressive. For example, laws against chaining dogs (isolation is proved to be a factor in dogs becoming aggressive) is a much more useful law. Laws targeting specific breed have been known to be ineffective, and only provide the illusion (not the reality) of public safety.
Well they are physically powerful animals same with other medium to large dogs. Not every dog is for everyone either and a lot of people don't seem to understand that sadly.
Teddy Horta-Hopkins although conceptually your idea about the law seems effective. In reality, it’s just a law. There’s no actual person standing in your house waiting to arrest you for isolating or chaining up your pit bull. Pit bulls accounted for half of dog attacks in Canada in 2017. The other half was made up of ALL other dog breeds. Yes, it is the owners fault that a pit bull becomes aggressive and starts attacking people. But enforcing your proposed law reforms is unattainable. The only way to stop an individual from treating their dog like that, is for the act to already have occurred, and them be caught doing it, and they get out in prison. That would stop one person. Now ty doing that for all pit bull owners. It’s impossible. Sorry, but simply saying we must ensure that people treat the potential dangerous dog in a certain way will always rely on humans actually fulfilling this goal. pedophilia is illegal, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. Same with domestic abuse, robbery, assault etc. And yet humans still do these things. Making it illegal to chain a dog, or isolate a dog doesn’t mean that humans will stop doing this. If a dog is predisposed to violence, and that violence is solely dependant on the way a human treats it, it’s an uncontrollable situation.
The only safe way to stop these violent and gruesome dog attacks, is to remove the breed of dog that is predisposed to violence xx
What Barbara said wasn't opinion, it's fact.
No it wasn’t
@@willsherman8535 It was a fact. These monsters need to be banned world wide
@@TheMitchie21 HOW IF THEY ARE BANNED WORLDWIDE WHERE ARE THEY GONNA GO WELL NOT IN THE GRAVE IF THIS WAS IN PERSON I WOULD BE THROWING HANDS NOT MY PIT BULLS THATS DISCRIMINATION SEARCH IT UP I BET YOUR RACIST TO
@@willsherman8535 yeah its not
@@honey-suckle3228 You forgot your capslock you lunatic. And yes put them all in the grave. Get rid of these dangerous dogs. O and nice touch accusing me of being racist cause i think a dangerous dog breed should be banned. That really shows your intelligence
please ban those demon dogs!
@Bats I've yet to hear any of you pit nutter come up with a solution on how to stop them from attacking.
@@sherrytaylor5046 treat them like any other dog? That would be s good start...
Ah, what a dumb ass you are
GOJIFAN 64 you are a real “dog lover” aren’t you freak!
@@tracy4611 says the one who wants to ban a dog that ain't bad but miss treated by some owners
People act like this breed has a right to exist. What is the basis for this view? I'm not referring to specific dogs but the breed itself. Pit bull is not a species. It's not a race. It is a selection of characteristics chosen by humans primarily for violence. It is a human invention. It could be argued these characteristics are useful for working dogs(what kind of work, I don't know), but they are not useful for the kind of pets that most of society wants, and that most pit bulls are used for. If a toy manufacturer creates a toy that explodes in one of every 1,000 cases, doing serious harm, we would not hesitate to have that toy recalled, even if this only happened because of mishandling the toy. Why should a dog breed be treated differently? Recalling a dog breed would simply entail castration of all dogs in that breed. Not a single dog would have to be euthanized.
Do not ever compare demon dog pit bull to little Chihuahua.
Comparing a chihuahua to a pitbull, is like comparing a pocket knife to a shotgun. Sure more people get hurt by pocket knives than shotguns, but if you do get hurt by a shotgun....good luck.
Any dog can be aggressive and any dog can be loving. It depends on the owner.
@@lllaserfoxgaming8196 nature vs nurture. Both are essential components, to ignore basic biology and instinct automatically puts you on the path of being an irresponsible owner.
@@lllaserfoxgaming8196 again they have a point its not chis sending people to hospital its pits so why do many pits turn on their owner they were raised to kill them
@@lllaserfoxgaming8196 stop with this nonsense line. There have been hundreds of attacks by pitbulls on their owners or family members. These are dogs that were trained and seemed well behaved.
The problems with pitbulls is not just the fact they are more likely to attack, it's also the the severity of attacks. Most dogs will be easily stopped whilst attacking, pitbulls will fight to the death. Most dogs will lead to minor injuries or survivable ones but pitbull attacks lead to serious injury and death on numerous occasions.
If someone is neglectful of a golden retriever, it will likely become a barking nuisance that may nip it's owner or another dog. If someone raises a pitbull really well, there's still a chance it will kill a child.
@@lllaserfoxgaming8196 Chihuahua cause you a band-aid and pit bull cause you a toe-tag. Grow more brains and stop being degenerate.
Why should everyone risk horrific injuries just so someone can own a dog capable of causing them? The people putting sole blame on the owners are still missing the point, these attacks happen with enough regularity that by the end of the year dozens will have died from them and tens of thousands will need reconstructive surgery. How are someone’s personal feelings worth that kind of damage?
They aren't, shitbull owners are just selfish, mentally deranged narcissists who want to bolster their image with a "BaDaSs"-looking, dangerous dog
Exactly! I find it astounding that many people's safety is at risk in order to allow others to own a certain kind of dog. One that was bred for fighting. No amount of training can overcome powerful instincts.
No different then a gun its only as good or bad as the hands its in
@@darrellsomers5427 guns aren't a problem until the wrong guy gets ahold of one, dogs are a problem unless the right person can keep them under control.
@@sodapopjones260 my AR won't run out of the house and shoot someone if I leave the door open too long.
Like all yappy dogs such as a Chihuahua they nip at you not bite. They might nip at your fingers but they do not have the bite force to rip your head off.
So? ban all big dogs?🤣
@@breakfree1967
No dopey. I am referring to Pit Bulls and you know that. And yes they need to be banned. A pit bull is a bulldog that has been cross bred with a bull terrier in order to create an animal that not only has a strong bite force but also be fast and agile and do maximum damage when fighting.
They were specifically bred for animal fighting. They were never intended to be family pets.
Iron Phoenix were beagles intended to be family pets? Were golden retrievers? Or Labradors? You a clueless bastard🤗
Iron Phoenix educate yourself before you bark
@@breakfree1967 REALLY??? Did you just compare beagles and Labradors to pit bulls? That is your argument? This is why it is said that there are two kinds of people that own pit bulls. CREEPS and MORONS.
I think you might be both.
Beagles and Labs may have originally been bred as hunting dogs but anyone with common sense ( obviously not you) knows they make much better pets than a dog that is bred for animal fighting.
On my job as a repairman for 30 years I have encounters many dogs in customers homes and not once has any golden retriever or Labrador ever behaved in a threatening manner. SMH.
Don’t compare dogs with people when it comes to different breeds it’s so moronic
It's racist.
absolutely I mean we already know when it comes to humans we are all exactly the same it's not like certain races might be more aggressive or prone to crime than others and statistics would definetely confirm that
Pit Bulls Are The Official Dog of Mayhem. Here we go again and again and again. If we can’t have cougars as pets, then we shouldn’t be able to have pit bull type-dogs.
YES all dogs can bite. That's not the point! The issue with pit bulls is the degree of damage they inflict, and their attacks being more likely to result in fatality.
PEOPLE WAKE-UP AND LISTEN TO THE MEDICAL EXPERTS NOT TO NAIVE PIT BULL OWNERS!
18 Medical peer-reviewed studies that prove pit bull type-dogs are dangerous as pets. Level 1 trauma center dog bite studies from all geographical regions in the U.S. are reporting a higher prevalence of pit bull type dogs injuries than all other breeds of dogs. In many cases, the studies (2011 to 2018) also report that pit bull injuries have a higher severity of injury and require a greater number of operative interventions.
THE MEDICAL EXPERTS STATE TO KEEP CHILDREN AWAY FROM PIT BULLS!
Dr. Golinko, who did the largest dog bite study to date, states pit bulls are a danger to children.
Pit bull type-dogs make up 7% of the dog population, so they should be only responsible for 7% dog bite-related human fatalities. Instead they inflict 72% of dog bite-related human fatalities. This is enough proof they are dangerous in our neighborhoods.
VERY TELLING: Pit bulls do not lock their jaws, but due to their "gameness" trait, they would rather die than to let go. Every pit bull owner should own a wedge-shaped piece of wood used to pry open a pit bull's jaw during an attack called a break stick. When need a precautionary tool for your dog, it does not belong on a crowded airplane.
Be aware of their 'gameness' trait. The nicest pit bull's gameness trait can be triggered at any time.
Anyone who has ever witnessed Pit Bull aggression is usually shocked by the level of ferocity these dogs display. The come hard, with everything they have, and do not stop coming. It is called gameness. Only the Pit Bulls have gameness. Essentially, it is the undying determination to keep going despite pain, injury, or insurmountable odds. What many do not also realize is that gameness was bred into these for blood sports.
Common Sense: Pit bulls have been bred for centuries for illegal blood sports. They are the #1 canine killer of people, pets and livestock of all dog breeds combined. They have a genetically inbred trait for unpredictable explosive aggression that cannot ever be trained out of them. Simple noises and movement can trigger the pit bull's prey drive into a deadly attack. This is not a safe breed trait to have in a family pet. They were bred to be lethal and they are every day. We need breed safety laws to keep our communities safe.
@Enigma McC I would ban them all, small German shepards are okay though but if it gets aggressive kill it. Pitbulls are the 1st ones to go an mg country kills them
@Enigma McC Yes just stop breeding any dog that's intimidating , check my dogs in my videos, they're harmless an nice
"My baby would never hurt a fly, i don't know why it killed my baby. They were in pictures on Facebook together!"
Dog lovers are deranged degenerates.
“Pit bull defenders want you to think that it's normal for a dog to maul or kill thousands of children. It's not. The vast majority of dog breeds have never killed or mauled a child - no matter how they are raised.”-Statement from an American pediatric group
Probably to save him/her from your shitty parenting. So are you one of the idiots that would leave you baby unattended with a dog in the room?? Made yourself look real stupid on that one. Thank you come again. 😂😂
@Dogs are Evil That’s truly terrible.
@@laraantipova389 Yes. Pitbulls are the only breed that you have to train to not bite your throat out.
I’m going to get behavior training to have a pet lion. It probably the same as getting attack from a hamster
*yes*
Saya X how r things goin with ur grizzly 😉
@Black ICE I hate when people say "well chihuahuas are more aggressive that's like comparing a goldfish to a shark
Black ICE are you comparing a wild animal to a domestic animal🤦🏽♀️
@@retroyt6540 still has instincts
I just witnessed a pit bull kill another pit bull about an hour ago. Tired of these bs excuses from pro-pit bull advocates. Last year I also had to help a lady with her pit bull that no one could control.
In the end, it is always the neighbor that has to come and help when the owner of the pit loses control.
@@cernugaming shut up not all pit bulls disgusting waste of air
It's always some stupid 90lb incompetent woman who owns one of these damn shitbeasts and cannot control it when it inevitably snaps.
It should be illegal for a woman or a small statured person to own a massive dog like that
The older lady is the only one with any sense
The pitbull breed was originally bred for aggression, that should be all a prudent person needs not to keep one. If you own one and it attacks someone you will be going to court and paying whatever damages, if it rips a kids face off and the kid needs 20+ surgeries(which has happened) unless you are a millionaire it will likely destroy your financial standing. You could lose your house, cars, boats, college funds any assets that can be used to pay the victim. By NOT owning a pitbull you greatly reduce the risk of being sued.
I love when people say it’s the owner not the breed, that’s the most stupid thing I’ve ever heard! Please explain the fact that most bites and deaths by pitties are by family owned pets who never showed signs of aggression before ! Pitbulls were bred to fight and they show no warning signs before an attack!!
In our home town just over a week, ago a 5 month and 3-year-old baby was killed by two family pit bulls and the mother was badly injured and hospitalized. The story is that the family was heavily involved with these dogs, exercised them, loved them, and they were well taken care of. I see all the expert's sides to this and all had good points. We too had pit bulls in our family, and they lived in the home and were properly trained, loved, and well taken care of. One day, the red nose was lounging around in my bedroom as usual and while watching tv he decided to look at me and growl. I eased off the bed and went and told my dad. My dad thought I may have scared him. Two weeks later he charged me and one of my step-sisters. We had to stay locked up in my room until my dad got home from work. A few weeks later he growled and attempted to attack my dad and he had to put us outside while he try to tame him. After trying to get him under control the pit charged and leaped at my dad and he had to shoot and kill it. I see everyone’s point but at this point, I’m leaning more toward the lady in the gray. I always heard that the red nose pits are the most trouble but I don’t know, it could be another myth. However, the one we had was a red nose and the two that killed those babies were red noses as well. Again, I don’t know, to each his own. I love dogs but I think pit bulls should be in the hands of more experienced and knowledgeable owners. Most people I see with pits didn't treat them properly, leave them chained, don't spend time with them, etc. Even still, you have people who do right by them, and innocent people especially children are killed. I’ve had a dog since I was 14 but a pit bull I never desired because I simply don’t trust them.🤷🏽♀️❤
Those were not purebred pitbulls
The "it's how you raise them" talking point is bs. If you own a golden retriever and don't train it you have an undisciplined dog that sticks its nose in people's crotches and jumps on everyone, if you have a pitbull and don't train it you get dead toddlers.
@@pooney4262 yeah so they were mixed pitbulls which still makes them pitbulls, stop obfuscating.
@@nimbletimplekins7601 like I said they were not pitbulls what point is you trying to justify
@@pooney4262 "it's not a pitbull even though it looks and acts like one and is 90% pitbull genetics durrrrrrrrrrr I need my speshul helmet because I'm a dumb pit nutter who doesn't know how genetics works"
Barbara, the woman in the gray, absolutely crushes this panel discussion.
the only one who is unbiased!
No she said they should be bammed and if everybody had the same opinion where would they go but if you want them dead thats like saying well that person looks dangerous so bann them from everywhere its not fair anybody can be a victim of doscrimination in any way shape or form
@@honey-suckle3228 I always find the doggie racism argument to be super weird and offensive to marginalized groups of people. Humans aren’t selectively bred for a specific purpose
Yeah she fucked they ass up 🤣
Comparing Human races to Dog breeds is ignorant & disgusting.
Dogs are purpose-bred not people.
Lmfaoooo
i love how pitbull owners always say "you should blame the dog owners" like it's a viable argument, it's still a dangerous animal you can be a shitty owner to a labrador and it will still not bite your children by the neck and not let go until he does not move. Why on earth would you take the risk to have an animal that might snap at you at any moment ... look at videos where people have a pitbull for years and it just decides to attack them for no reason. don't be silly, these dogs have been bred to fight for years. although yours is a sweet dog, so many others are not ... human life is much more precious than to just have fatalities that might be children so that you can look badass.
I got sources regarding my defense of pitbulls if you're interested including CDC/Snopes/National Geographic/Smithsonian Magazine/Ohio State University/ETC also its about the dog as an individual and environment
@@blakewangler230 OK good for you, so let me ask you this : what's the solution ? just accept that some of them will have shitty owners and that eventually those dogs will severly injure other people or dogs and those are just casualties we have to accept ? .... OR ... make sure those dogs never get to shitty owners in the first place and yeah some will have to adopt other dogs but eventually no one will get hurt in the future ?
i mean even some owners of pitbulls change their tune when they have kids ... no one leaves a labrador because of a new baby
@@amokana any dog can pose a threat people should get a dog they can handle generally its best not to just leave children alone/out of sight,education/training/breed neutral legislation/teaching children how to treat and behave around dogs and ive heard breed neutral legislation has apperently shown to be quite effective and/or promising last i recollect any dog can be unpredictable though its both environment and the said dog regardless of breed as an individual,any dog right size/strength/power can pose a threat and if you dont mind me asking again do you want to see atleast some sources ive mentioned i got around 30 or more includes videos and articles and according to some things ive read dog attacks are atleast to a degree is a preventable situation lack of able bodied individuals being a factor breed apperently not being one of them
@@amokana people should take procations against any dog that can pose a threat get a weapon if your worried as a procation i suppose though some pitbulls like all dogs have good ones and bad ones in the category as i stated one could get a weapon for defense as well as previously mentioned methods
They say "it's the owner" and then never push for laws that would make owners accountable for the actions of their dogs.
Ok, to the argument that pit bull "type" dogs don't have any more inclinations towards aggression than any other breed : Hypothetical scenario, a low IQ person gets a labrador retriever (which would never happen because low IQ almost exclusively choose pit bulls), then,while not exactly abusing the dog, do not necessarily foster good behavior in the dog either. The result will be an annoying dog that jumps to much, shoves it's nose in everyone's crotch, runs off and doesn't come when called and barks unnecessarily. Now replace the retriever with a pit bull and you have a ticking time bomb.
While a pit bull might make a safe pet for SOME people, there is no good reason for this breed "type" to be so prevelant when the average dog owner isn't an expert in dog behavior.
I agree that people should know how to handle and train these dogs, they’re not for first time owners. But banning them is insane. I’ve been chased down by a Rottweiler before, been snipped at my them, but never once have I had an issue with a pit.
@@sammcgill5324 both pitbulls and rottweilers should be banned. They are both extremely dangerous. Pitbulls account for the vast majority of maulings and fatalities so the evidence is overwhelming. The fact is, random people should not be expected to handle a dangerous dog. They were bred for maximum aggression and maximum killing power. Only a fool thinks they are a good pet. Might as well get a pet bear or tiger.
@@Molotov_Milkshake comparing a pit or Rottweiler to a damn bear is idiotic
@@sammcgill5324 I agree. Bears are much nicer and only attack people for legit reasons (like their cubs being threatened). Dogs attack people for fun.
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Pitbulls are like the Ford Pintos of the Canine World, Sure, "all cars can crash" but when a pinto crashes, it results in much more serious injuries and/or death.
Farmer Fpv A Mastiff or Rottweiler can bite harder than any Pit.
Raven Is A Lozer Okay, tell that to the dozens of children killed because the pit would rather die then unclamp it’s jaw due to the hundreds that were selectively killed for letting go after being hit in a fighting situation, resulting in a dog responsible for the most deaths of children via mauling in the US.
The bite force of an average sized pit bull isn’t nearly as high as you’d think. But if you want a 120 lb pittie you know the bite force is really strong.
@@melodysimms4835 ok tell that to the dozens of children mauled an killed by Rotti's and Dobermans... Lmao. .
@@nickramey8324 Yeah look up the statistics. Pit bulls cause more deaths than both of those dogs.
I don't see how Canada can support gun control and not have more support on a pitbull ban. Both are lethal and both were created to do harm.
Except with proper education and vigilance, a firearm owner can be peaceful with any caliber of weapon.
A pitbull? No amount of training can suppress instinct. It's like walking around with your finger on the trigger of a Desert Eagle.
idiot gun ban is nazism.
@@randgrithr7387 false
@@001Khy Show us the data what you claim is false
One piece of evidence, anything with teeth can be dangerous. Cats can kill people. Pitbulls are not the only living being to blame for harm. I've raised pits from puppies to the grave all my life and they were all just big babies. It's not about the breed.
How nice, the lady in red, as a proud business owner, wants to « sell » that people need to be more informed and have mandatory dog-training classes, which of course, she can provide. (Eye rolling, $$ convenient)
Another thing : if it’s really always the owner’s fault that the dog is agressive (supposedly due to mistreating, negligence, inconstant discipline, etc.), then, where is the accountability for the deaths? Also, how do you explain family dogs, raised from the time they were puppies, having lived with children their own lives in good (non-negligent) homes, killing these same children? Isn’t overlooking that dishonest? Online, on youtube, the pitbull lobby takes all the space.
I don't trust the good family dog that snap randomly story it always sound fishy. Like did the child and dog were left alone without any kind of surveillance. Did the family know dog body language? Did the dog was already a bitter? Like too many question are simply newer answered.
Heck I saw a video were a woman was filming her child pulling the hair of a golden retriever, 3 second later the dog obviously snap and attack the child. If it was a pitbull will we heard the same old story of oh the dog was kind and stuff he just suddenly attack without warning.
No bringing it up is dishonest. They dogs do nit attack fir no reason... Unless trained that way...also she infirmed people that they need to learn to handle the dog, wich is true so keep rolling your eyes like a dumbass...
@@bobipineman pitbulls mauling kids happen so often and are almost always horrible for the children. Statically it’s always pitbulls that inflict the most damage, no other types of dogs do that. Who cares if the sneezed and it set the dog off ? What would a kid have to do for it justify the pitbulls actions ?
pitbull should not be bred
@@bobipineman Wow, what a coincident that pitbulls accounts for more attacks and deaths compared to ALL THE OTHER POPULATION OF DOGS COMBINED.
Barbara Kay is so much more intelligent than the rest of these panelists. It's like an adult talking to children. And in the case of the behaviorist: an infant.
yea, glaringly obvious
You came into this video with such a closed mindset that you couldn’t even see that she was arguing with dog experts. I haven’t heard one dog expert in my life say that pit bulls are inherently bad dogs
@@willsherman8535 and hilariously, these "experts" said literally nothing of substance whatsoever
@@monsieurmorin if you’re gonna act as though you know more than them, why don’t you explain
Yeah she should take her childish self and opinions home. This is a conversation for experienced dog owners. Not a statistic reading dumbass
The lady in the red has no idea what she is talking about.
agreed when she said pitbulls give "warning signs of aggression" every attack video iv seen they just are walking normal then casually walk up and maul somebody. Literally elevator doors open and its ready to maul
@@zansherkoti9919 dude just because YOU are ignorant to dogs doesn't mean the whole world is, remember that the next time you try to say something.
@@shadygaming6523 Doesn't matter whether the whole world is or not. If it happens well then that's proof that either a) the people that think they know dog behaviour don't or b) not everyone knows dog behaviour. In either case: ban.
@@LWT1331 is this how you people try to rationalize whatever goes on in your brain? i seriously have no idea what you just said except that you don't like dogs so you want to ban them
@@LWT1331 any dog can be unpredictable pitbulls do give warning also i have sources regarding my defense of pitbulls such as but not limited to national geographic ncbi articles and more
Why do they have three Pit Bull biased people vs one person to state facts and statistics? Where is the fairness in reporting? A person, or two, who was mauled or lost their child in the jaws of a Pit Bull would have balanced this panel out.
Because they don't want too may proving they are wrong at one time. Taking to Pit nutters is like talking to rocks.
if it was another breed that mauled the person the arguement itself will be simply destroyed
Shitbulls must be banned!! Yes
They are definitely to violent to have around children.
They don't just "bite". They go off like hyenas, mauling, shredding, dismemberment.
And they are basically unstoppable when they attack.
They are totally unpredictable.
Never let it of the leash ,that's irresponsible ,any dog can do damage some more then others some Pitts just like any breed some are more vicious then others just like people
Dogs are not people, no comparison.
@Sammy yeah neither is nitro glycerine. Not keeping that with my children either
B I N G O !!! 🎯
@@darrellsomers5427 Pitbulls can easily drag their owners and escape leashes all the time to attack. They need to be muzzled.
Until better laws are made for the adoption and possession of large or strong dogs, it's probably better that they stay illegal.
Hell no. nobody wants rat breeds!
any dog. fo you know how many owners have aggresive dogs becausw they dont know how to be an owner? dogs are more compicated , and theres plenty of things about dog behaviour the owners simply dont know.
I preffer my fluffy bois over your little, suffering dogs for fashion. Pugs literally can't breath because of people breeding them like crazy.
pugs at least dont maul children
I don't advocate banning the ownership of any animals. I think pitbulls need to be banned from open and free adoption. Just like a hyena or a tiger. I think having carnivorous and agressive animals around children and feeble adults should be illegal.
Also, having improper caging should be severely penalized.
Barbara Kay is a queen.
By phasing out one narrow band of dog breeds, you can reduce trauma injuries requiring surgery in children from dogs BY HALF. The cost benefit here is obvious.
That means banning even the good natured members if the breed. Why punish a dog if they didn't do anything bad?
@@lllaserfoxgaming8196 you obviously love animals more than humans
@@lllaserfoxgaming8196 because they are bred to be unpredictable, violent, and extremely damaging and bulwark dogs, you moron. we should get rid of the breed not because just some are bad, but because ALL of them are bad and predisposed to this violence.
@@lllaserfoxgaming8196 Why arrest a drunk driver if he did not crash into anyone yet?
And if you take cars away you can reduce traffic injuries by 100%🤯🤗
A fighting dog (pit bull) vs guard dog(Rottweiler, German Shepard). Pit bull makes a huge amount of deaths while german shepards make a small fraction
Gsd are not gaurd dogs they kill more ppl that pitbulls
When my pit sees peoples who where hoods or don't show there faces, he will be alerted. So pits can be guard dogs two.
@@elmoL650 Source please - because they absolutely don't. Just saying it doesn't make it true. Pitbulls account for ~50% of all dog bite fatalities, every other breed COMBINED accounts for the remaining 50%.
@@anarisbell7656 its 65% in the usa
@@elmoL650 there is a thing called statistic . Numbers don’t lie. You should check them, it’s called reality.
that older lady owned this debate
Anyone with half a brain should know pitbulls are killers. Plain & Simple.
They say "It's not the dog it's the owner." OK then, you're responsible for what your dog does.
The Pro Pit Bull Advocates in this debate made no sense what so ever it's ridiculous, they should be banned from working with any dog because of their ignorance. They even admitted the breed is dangerous because they say you need to have special training. Pitbull advocates are so blind to what they are saying.
"Pit bulls are the most misunderstood breed of dog" WTF does that mean, please explain? That answer doesn't make sense one bit, its complete ignorance talking! That dude brought up the ATTS dog aggression test which was done by amateurs, not professional dog phycologists, he is full of bullshit. The older lady is the only one that made any good points on the situation. I say ban the misunderstood breed!
It’s because they’re treated poorly. Have you ever been bullied at school? Most of the time, bullies are abused, so they take out their anger on you. That’s what happens to pit bulls.
Farmer Fpv it’s safe to say that Cesar Milan is good with dogs.
I’ve heard both the anti crowd, and pro crowd at the very least admit that he’s got a very unique way with dogs.
He’s a celeb, yes. He THE dog guys.. yes. But, if you know anything about the man, he’s extremely knowledgeable about dog psychology, and has a repoire with dogs that I have yet to see in another person. If this man sat in an interview, watched the news report about the man who was grieving for his 2 year old daughter who was tragically mauled by a pit bull (pulled out of the mom’s arms, etc... you know the one. You all cling to it like it’s your burning Bush,) and acknowledges the tragedy, but insists Onus should not be placed on the breed, but the environment and owners, while owning a half dozen pit bulls (and dozens throughout his life,) without incident and still advocates for the breed... I’m inclined to believe him, and the other millions of satisfied, and delighted pit owners who never have an issue.
You’re all disregarding the millions (perhaps even billions) of pitbulls owned in the past and owned currently that are docile, and perfectly pleasant family members/companions.
You all point at the small handful of incidences involving “pit bulls” and sweat that this paints the whole picture. You believe that joe, and Jane Schmo can be trusted to identify a dog’s breed, therefore all of the stats that you all SEEK OUT to confirm your bias must be a reliable indication of breed exclusivity.
Why bring up “objectivity, and facts, and logic, and ignorance,” when objectivity can be found on the other side as well, and there’s plenty of ignorance on yours?
They say that cause pit bulls are still used in dog fights and are sometimes trained to be aggressive, bad people can use that history to train a pitbull to bite and get away with it
"Oh!! My pitbull bit a kid?? Well I'm sorry, pitbulls where made to aggressive." "Not my fault."
People like that discussed me
If people can train sharks, whales, and dolphins to do tricks, I think we can train any dog to not be aggressive, we should not ban this dog breed, pitbulls are a misunderstood breed because of their background, you saying you don't get it but still want to ban them?? Don't get you dude
Gamer Moment plenty of beloved family pit bulls attack. Barbara, the woman in the gray, points out that half of maulings on children are by the family pit.
@@Diynim Dude, 65% of fatal dog attacks carried out by 6% of the US dog population....that's not mistreatment, that's a bad breed
Barbara, the woman wearing gray with really good points speaks at:
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Nobody want to here that ewww
@@honey-suckle3228 yeah and no-one wants to see their child having their scalp ripped off
She literally made all bad points, nothing was based on animal science and she had no idea what she was talking about
@@dinothepug6721 If you beleive that, then you're an idiot. Not just in my opinion, you're objectively a moron. The stats tell the truth, and the pitbull attack stats are jaw dropping to say the least.
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There are pits that have been raised from puppy and trained with nothing but love and they still turned on it’s owners. There are police dogs that have gone on attack but it never gets reported.
Old lady is right.
She made them look like idiots.
You look like an idiot for agreeing with that dumb old lady
Different races were not bred to be aggressive. Saying that singling out pit bulls is equal to racism is beyond fucked up
Dogs aren't Human races. They're Breeds.
Bred specifically for certain characteristics. Duh.
Pitbull is not a dog...stop comparing this 4 legged beast with other dogs.
I have a pitbull
There are so many breeds of dog, why would you want one that can inflict incredible damages? This education arguments, owner's fault are all inane since you can't tell if the owner is educated or not. Why are people getting rid of so many pit-bulls? They all realize at one point that they can take over their owner an become unruly.
François Guay Any large dog can damage someone severely.
I have a 185 lb boerboel and a 85 lb pitbull. I keep them for personal protection purposes and to keep my wife safe.
Dogs need to have some level of aggression in order to undergo personal protection training.
A human bing can easily over power a “pit bull”.
It is easy if you know what to do.
If people stopped this stupid positive only crap there wouldn’t be any more attacks, but noooo.
“ Ur AbuZing uR dog If Yiu CorrEcTtt It’s Bad BerHavur!”
RavenDaPunk nope. If so, then tell me why pitbulls have attacked and killed at least 120 people this year alone.
www.nationalpitbullvictimawareness.org/attacks/pit-bull-attack-database
DATVSL American pit bull terriers or other bully breeds?
There is a huge difference.
No such thing as a pit bull type dog.
She is putting down facts and you can't go against fact
Barry Allen which one are you talking about if you’re talking about the lady for the ban she didn’t use facts pit bulls were not only bred to kill they were actually used to be bread to be around kids get your facts straight
Mountain Wolf4050 lady i got my facts straight I can put down a fact you can't go against and it's real numbers and pitbull records of attacking they have
Mountain Wolf4050 and if you actually do anything it was the English Bulldog that was bred to be a nanny dog pit bulls were specifically made to fight
Mountain Wolf4050 34 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2015. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 700 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 82% (28) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up about 6.6% of the total U.S. dog population.3
Together, pit bulls (28) and rottweilers (3), the second most lethal dog breed, accounted for 91% of the total recorded deaths in 2015. This same combination also accounted for 76% of all fatal attacks during the 11-year period of 2005 to 2015.
The breakdown between these two breeds is substantial over this 11-year period. From 2005 to 2015, pit bulls killed 232 Americans, about one citizen every 17 days, versus rottweilers, which killed 41, about one citizen every 98 days.
In the year of 2015, the combination of pit bulls (28), their close cousins, American bulldogs (2), and rottweilers (3) contributed to 97% (33) of all dog bite-related fatalities. Both American bulldog fatalities occurred in Miami-Dade County, Florida.
Annual data from 2015 shows that 41% (14) of the fatality victims were children ages 9-years and younger, and 59% (20) were adults, ages 22-years and older. Of the total adults killed by canines in 2015, 65% (13) were ages 60-years and older.
Annual data shows that when combining all age groups, male victims (20) were greater in number than female victims (14). Amongst children ages 9-years and younger, males were excessively victims 79% (11), versus females 21% (3).
In 2015, nearly one third, 32% (11), of all dog bite fatality victims were either visiting or living temporarily with the dog's owner when the fatal attack occurred. Children ages 9-years and younger accounted for 82% (9) of these deaths.
50% (17) of all fatalities in 2015 involved more than one dog; 15% (5) involved a pack attack of four or more dogs; 21% (7) involved breeding on the dog owner's property either actively or in the recent past and 6% (2) involved tethered dogs.
In 2015, 9% (3) of all fatal attacks were inflicted by dogs rehomed by shelters or rescues. County operated shelters in Buncombe County, North Carolina and Madison County, Tennessee each adopted out a dog that fatally attacked a person.
Dog ownership information for 2015 shows that non-family dogs inflicted the majority of dog bite fatalities, 59% (20), up 12% from the 10-year average of 47%. Over two-thirds of all deaths, 71% (24), occurred on the dog owner's property.
In 2015, 15% (5) of attacks causing death resulted in meaningful criminal charges; down from the 10-year average of 22%.42015 also marked the first time a medical examiner ruled "suicide" as the manner of death in a fatal dog mauling
Mountain Wolf4050 According to DogsBite.org , a non-profit organization and national dog bite victims' group that tracks canine attacks in the USA, from 2005 to 2016, 392 Americans were killed by dogs in that 12-year period. 65% of those deaths were due to pitbulls, making pitbulls, by far, the breed responsible for the largest number and highest percentage of dog bite fatalities in the USA
The lady in grey is the only one with a brain
Uno reverse card
It is the breed,how many pit bull owners have been mauled or killed by them even though they were loved,trained well,and treated well. ? Victims of these maulers,like myself are tired of the excuses.I'm sure that more of us are going to get armed and take care of it ourselves because anyone who is supposed to help with these situations...Animal control,police,law makers,etc are not doing their job.
Barbra’s right! Good job Montreal you care enough about public safety.
I'm really not sure why people are so adamant to defend pit bulls. Dog breeders take breeding for characteristics and personality traits seriously. That's why if you want a good hunting dog (or whatever other kind of dog), you pay more for a good pedigree and want to ensure you get a purebred dog for the work you want it to do. For some reason, when talking about pit bulls, those who want to defend it completely negate anything about breeding and put it all on the owner. A bad owner for sure will not help the problem or make it worse, but pit bulls have been bred to have characteristics that make it a fighting dog. It's a complete contradiction. Either breed matters or it doesn't. If breed didn't matter, then these organizations would never have any info about the tendencies of any dog breed and would have the same advice for all dogs.
I'm not sure why there's such a big push to put pit bulls in homes when people end up believing these ideas only to regret it when they get attacked, their child or family member gets attacked, or a neighbor gets attacked. Trying to tell people that pit bulls are good dogs (or that "pit bull" isn't a breed) doesn't do anything but put people in danger. If they think pit bulls are loving family pets, then they don't take the precautions to prevent them from killing. So many people always believe their pit bull is good, then one day it attacks and kills someone or something and they never would have thought something like that would happen. They are dangerous.
The fact that there is even a debate indicates the answer is yes.
Pitbulls have higher muscle density and bone density, have you seen most pitbulls they look like roided body builders.
However they dont have the strongest bite but there good at weight pulling also majority of attacks by dogs are unreported also bsl can be ineffective
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globalnews.ca/news/2527882/torontos-pit-bulls-are-almost-gone-so-why-are-there-more-dog-bites-than-ever/
www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/canine-corner/201902/do-breed-specific-laws-reduce-the-number-dog-bites
I have a staffy, she's alot shorter, and thinner than most
These creatures are not worth the risk
"Its easy to legislate good dog ownership! We can give people ID tags in different colors!!" 🤣🤣🤣LOL
Unbelievable!! It's super easy!🙄
Pitbulls are the most mysterious breed in the world, an attack of aggression can occur at any moment, during the attack micro strokes occur in the dogs brain, what puts him in to blindness, it calls "game", that's what they was bred for, after he out of his mode he can be the sweetest dog in the world, it's crazy.
Is this true about the micro strokes? Source?
@@0Fallacy everything i wrote is 100% true, source?, scientific findings, im 12 years with amstaffs and i know these breeds very well, there is a tones of literature and years of practice in my experience in many different situations.
It's not mysterious lol their genetics is the reason why they're ticking time bombs.
@@edvinas111 amstaff is just a pitbull.
@@jamescaleb9676 yes buddy, it's a dog show pit version
Pitbull has the potential to kill somebody....he will make the most damage if got out of control compared to otherdogs.
Sup buddy. Enjoy your day
@@vishesh8746 he just greeted you. Uncultured swine.
You're racist to dogs AND americans?! *DOUBLE COMBO!!*
All dogs can snap. Also being racist. Good examples that your an idiot
That’s not true. There are 7 dogs with a higher bite force than your average pit bull. Not every pit bull is 110 lbs. Mine is 45 lbs. and isn’t capable of mauling me or anyone else
Pitbull can kill human but not chihuahua..chihuahua just nib or kay be bite but Pitbull can tear your head in two part so please dont compare .
A global consensus shows that many people don't take kindly to pitbulls.
You can’t always put the blame on the owners. That person acts like that statement changes everything.
Ban them! Save the people and like all other animals from them! WAY too dangerous and fatal
The pit bull propaganda is thick with the so-called trainer and beard man.
Oh so because she supports pitbulls she is a "so called trainer". Lmao.. Wow how pathetic are you. M
Yea they keep his pockets stuffed & his belly huge.
I dont agree with red tshirt girl ..if you ban this dangerous dog then atleast i will safe in my neighborhood while walking .Problem with pitbull can kill human not small dog .Dont wait people to get educated and to have owner because you cant train idiot owner and they will always be threat.I love gray T-shirt woman she has facts and know what she is talkin about .
Wonderful to hear Barbara speak the truth. So much respect for her. Thank you Barbara. ❤️❤️❤️
Yes. Why is this even a question.
This debate is so bizarre I can't believe we are still having this conversation. No reputable organization allows this mixed bag of nuts in the organization. Insurance companies refuse to insure them. Compare that to a crappy driver who is by law mandated to have auto insurance. So what did they do, created what is known as assigned risk, they pay higher premiums which is pooled with other premiums and most often limit them to basic coverage 15/30. Insurance companies know that this breed of dog accounts for more serious injuries than all other breeds combined but there is no high risk insurance mandated by any jurisdiction. I hate pitbull type dogs and they genuinely serve no purpose that another breed couldn't fill. Ban them all!
Why punish a dog if they haven't done anything wrong?
@@lllaserfoxgaming8196 So how do you feel about mandatory spaying and neutering (which would reduce aggressive behavior in itself) and banning the breeding of them?
Yes. Needs banned
You are a dunce
Yes they should.
Just stop breeding them and not allowing them in. Everyone's dog gets grandfathered in.
You know what? Just ban all dogs as pets. They suck.
Me and the fam had the opportunity to own a Pit Bull and other dog breeds in the past and I'll be very honest, owning a Pit Bull is a challenge and compared to the other dogs they were the most aggressive. Even though I had an outlier, in which the Pit Bull was a complete angel (The dog was so kind and affectionate, and it came naturally) but the dogs sibling was the complete opposite and me and the fam had to put in the work in order to make that dog sociable. As much as I love Pit Bulls, I do not see myself in the near future owning one, in my home country, South Africa, there has been a spike in Pit Bull attacks in the recent years and in 2022 I feel as if the country reached an all-time high in Pit Bull attacks. I'd rather just own a Boer bull, because owning a Pit Bull is just too risky and I send my condolences to everyone and to all the families who've had a negative encounter with this breed.
These dogs should've gone extinct when their purpose of bull baiting and dog fighting became illegal almost internationally.
As a dog trainer and owner of a pit who snapped, I can say these dogs are killers and ticking time bombs, and give very little to no warning beforehand. NOT a safe and reliable family pet.
What then where would the dogs go if tou don't like all dogs don't call yourself a dog trainer disgusting waste of oxygone
Absolutely not meant to be pets at all!!
@@honey-suckle3228 what's disgusting is any human that puts dogs before other human's lives. Sick.
I mean we can say that the bulldog should have been extinct as well since they were bred for the same thing but we changed them for a different purpose now I want to ask you a question do you think we can change their future by breeding the aggression out of them since it has been proven that genetics play a key role in behavior
@@kingsin5520 The Bulldogs of today are not the same functional dogs that they were when they were used in baiting but the Pits today haven't lost their dangerous characteristics ,either physical or mental.
I believe in strict liability for pit bull owners in both criminal and civil law. So anything the dog does, it's as if it was done by your own hand. If your dog kills a person, you would then be charged with homicide. If it's all about the owner, then put bull owners should have no problem with this.
There’re two kinds of people in this world. Those that understand statistics, and pitbull owners.
it's not "bitten" it's "mauled". They don't just nip at your toenails dammit - I f'ing get pissed when the word "bitten" is used in a playful dissolved way like this it's sickening. It is beyond stupidity
These people are disingenuous. Pitbulls are a breed and you can avoid a lot of problems if you don't get one.
Pitbulls should be banned
Yes, ban the pits.
r/banpitbulls #banpitbulls
A pitbull ran out of nowhere and almost killed my cousin, aunt, and their 2 dogs.
STORYTIME!!!!
This pitbull was not one bit provoked. They were about 80+ yards away from the neighbors/owner of the dogs house and their kid let the dog out the front door. The dog immediately ran down the entire street and tried to kill both dogs and attack my family members. My cousin now has a shattered ankle and broken arm because the dog jumped up on her and she tripped forward down a steep hill, and requires some extensive surgeries. Yes, multiple surgeries...(they live in a very hilly neighborhood). Another neighbor heard them screaming and came out and had to mace the dog TWICE before he stopped attacking. They would have been severely injured and possibly killed had the neighbor not frantically come mace the pitbull, 2 times. The dogs wouldn't eat for days no matter how hard my aunt tried to feed them, so the dogs also required medical attention at the vet so that they would eat. This all happened about 3 weeks ago.
The owners NOT ONCE CALLED TO CHECK UP ON THEM. My aunt hired a lawyer and are suing them for medical and vet expenses. If you want to own a pitbull I hope you're ready to risk losing money. You take stupid animal gambles, you win stupid prizes.
Doesn't mean all pits are bad. Stop Dog Whistlng
@@Eye_Que1725 No, but owning one is a lottery. They are risky dogs..and it's a lottery because you don't know which one will specifically attack..
@@Dana-ki6vs If you get them from a good breeder and train them well they are not any riskier than a Lab
MrMasonSqroggz
*Here is my solid argument*
Well, why do I have even more stories then? My moms friends 4 year old has a deranged face because their supposedly so well trained pitbull. From a great breeder, constant supervision, well trained, played with him, walked him, fed him properly, loved on him, and one night they were watching TV and all sitting on the couch and the dog came and attacked the 4 year old girl from nowhere. The kid wasn’t even playing with the dog. They did all of the right things.
Let me put it this way-
Sheep dogs were bred to herd.
Bichons were bread to be water dogs.
German shepherds were also actually trained to herd.
Cocker spaniels were bred to hunt birds for the rich in Spain.
Basset hounds were bred to find rabbits and badgers.
Collies were bred to be herding dogs.
Mastiffs were raised to be guard dogs.
Pugs were were bred to be companion dogs.
Greyhounds were bred to hunt deer.
St. Bernards are meant to withstand snow and were used for search and rescue.
Yorkies were used for vermin control and would rid of rats in manufacturing facilities.
Poodles were bred and used to go into the water and fetch waterfowl. (Ranked #2 most intelligent btw)
Dalmatians were used to clear paths and find fires.
Golden Retrievers were also used to retrieve waterfowl and would swim in the pond to get them.
Chihuahuas are bred as companion dogs.
And lastly:
“Today’s pitbull is a descendant of the original English bull-baiting dog-a dog that was bred to bite and hold bulls, bears, and other large animals around the face and the head. When baiting large animals was outlawed in the 1800’s, people turned instead to fighting their dogs against each other” -ASPCA
These dogs have certain things that they were bred to do that is in their DNA, and they enjoy doing it. So to think that owning a pitbull is not like a lottery is quite ignorant (in general). While the people who bred them and fought them against one another are responsible, it’s super ignorant for owners to repeatedly deny that it’s still in their blood to turn and do some solid damage...they were not nanny dogs! Can you not see the solid difference between what the other dogs were bread to do compared to the description of the pitbull? Seriously. While you might want to blame it on the owners, you “pibble” lovers cannot be so ignorant as to ignore what Pitbulls were actually bred for. Their bites will do 30x the damage of a Chihuahua bite, but I’ve witnessed many pit owners say Chihuahuas are more aggressive-and even if that were true, do you really think a Chihuahua is capable of biting someone’s face or limbs off? Pits are descendants of dogs that could hold down bears.
I’m not saying all pitbull’s are bad, but I feel like maybe the attacks are much more increased because owners won’t accept the simple fact that they were not nanny dogs...and let them have way too much free roam...because they refuse to accept these genetic factors. Due to turning a blind eye from these genetic factors, these owners do take complete fault and do not raise them right, because they think every pitbull is sweet and they think not a single pitbull is capable of damage to humans or other animals.
I wouldn’t be so frustrated making this argument if people would just admit this! And handle them as such! You can’t say “oh it’s how the owners raise them” and then understand why that if they aren’t raised right they attack more than any other dog. If more owners accepted the genetic bloodline, less owners would be at fault..
So when you say it’s the owners fault you must admit why it’s their fault. My neighbors small dogs were highly abused and mistreated before she adopted them and has never needed extra training for them not to attack.
Hope you are having a good day/morning/evening depending on where you are.
@@Dana-ki6vs The Pitbull attack statistic is about how often the MEDIA reports them. Also, only 3% of Pitbulls living today we're bred for fighting or have fighting ancestry.
I think a lot of pit bulls are good but I think the breed should be banned and the ones we have s
Hold be nurtured because of irresponsible people who can't control then to many humans have died
I re-posted this comment from a bloke below. Perfect comment.
PUBLIC SAFETY can't depend on people to maintain safety.
Ok, to the argument that pit bull "type" dogs don't have any more inclinations towards aggression than any other breed : Hypothetical scenario, a low IQ person gets a Labrador retriever (which would never happen because low IQ almost exclusively choose pit bulls), then, while not exactly abusing the dog, do not necessarily foster good behavior in the dog either. The result will be an annoying dog that jumps to much, shoves it's nose in everyone's crotch, runs off and doesn't come when called and barks unnecessarily. Now replace the retriever with a pit bull and you have a ticking time bomb.
While a pit bull might make a safe pet for SOME people, there is no good reason for this breed "type" to be so prevalent when the average dog owner isn't an expert in dog behavior.
So we should kill dogs because we think they are dangerous ughh people like you forget that animals are sould and not everybody is human or can speak
@@honey-suckle3228 Who said kill dogs? No, just stop the breeding of these pits. But I am an extremist when it comes to solving issues. At least make double fencing, training and licensing law and the penalty of not abiding a bit more severe.
The most humane thing to do is to ban all future pitbull breeding, issue MASSIVE fines for anyone who wants to backyard breed these dogs, and let individual cities decide what they want to do with existing pitbulls. Its cruel to keep breeding these animals when they don't have a place in human society due to the killer instinct that was bred into them
Yes they should be banned
Something absolutely needs to be done. Attacks/ Killings from this breed is Rising dramatically!!
Educate yourself before commenting next time.
Seems like a no brainer to ban a breed with a violent history.
Rottweilers?? German Shepherds??
@@alt-monarchist not even close to the death rate
@@aradiamegido7040 I guess you never hear of Mislabeling and Backyard Breeding?? APBT dogs from Professional breeders do not face the same problems as abused APBT dogs.
Can someone advice me if American Bullies are banned in Vancouver areas?
Thanks
Wow thanks for the video. Great content.
no person or group or business that has the welfare of all dogs as a priority would want more dog killing dogs to be produced, or to infest a community.
Those individuals and groupswho want more dog killing dogs to be born do not have dog welfare as a priority.
Their priorities lie elsewhere, as in income generation, job security, they're pathological needs to be needed similar to those suffering from munchausen's by proxy.
you would think the bull mongerers would want less suffering abused tortured pitbulls. But no, they seem to delight when they learn of another bludgeoned or battered pit bull. I suppose it makes them feel better about themselves, both as individuals and as a group, so they can hate somebody. And then try to rescue or rehabilitate a tiny percentage of pit bulls.
Proof that bully people do not care about Bully Dog welfare?
Their refusal to support the primary way of reducing the carnage that surrounds pitbulls, both suffered by pitbulls and also caused by pitbulls: mandatory sterilization of pits/bully dogs, any dog killing dog.
Come on folks there are 100s of dog breeds out there to love and care for. So why not statistically reduce dog attack deaths, and serious injuries by over 1/2 by eliminating the pitbull "breed"?
If not at least banned then alternatively all potentially dangerous deadly dog breeds, especially the most deadly like Pitbulls, Rotweilers etc. need to be licensed requiring rigorous tests that confirm they are not agressive. Plus rigorous tests of their owners, both tests as to owner's psychological make up, and as to their dog skill tests.
Any dog attack incidents that reveal dog aggression must require super rigorous retraining, or euthenization. No 2nd chances.
Come on folks there are all sorts of dog breeds available for family pets that do very little damage. So why not just allow only those less dangerous breeds for family pets?
Said another way to all you "pitbull lovers" who block pitbull bans you are knowingly blocking the otherwise statistical reduction of over 60% less dog caused deaths and serious injuries nationally. How selfish and ignorant of you to block that.
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Lol. I have a pit. I disagree with banning breeds amd stripping away choice through government decision. Give em a inch and they will take the entire interstate
@@randyj1988
Why so emotional, reactive, and ignorant of the facts?
2+2=4, not 3, not 5. The serious and fatal dog bite stats are quite accurate.
What is with you turning a debate about dogs into a political manifesto? Laws are to protect humans 1st and freaky dogs 2nd.
Let us guess. You have a Pitbull mutt you love who hasn't eaten your neighbor"s baby and poodle yet?
When you are done with your tantrum then below is your homework assignment Sweetee🤣
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@@rgcwow sir, im sorry but you are wrong! Pit bulls are not the evil man eaters people try to make them out to be
It's not even about skill level. Caesar Millan's pit bull killed another dog. I absolutely believe when people say their pit bulls are nice, loving etc. But it's not about whether they're nice. They are a terrier with its grip and shake instinct scaled up from mice, rats and rabbits to first bulls and bears, and then other dogs. If you've had a terrier before, and seen it lunge after a mouse behind a book case, or savage the mail when it comes through the letterbox, it's that instinct but scaled up to humans and other dogs. The pit bull terrier needs to be perfectly behaved for the entire 10 years or so that it's an adult dog, in order for it to not have a violent incident. That's so unlikely as to be effectively impossible. They're perfectly nice dogs, but they're also unsuited for life around humans, and it's irresponsible to bring them around people.
@@tysonvslewis12 mf's say this when irrefutable proof exists
I appreciate her bringing up that they’re *happy* when they attack. It’s not brought up enough and I always mention it. It’s why they’re so hard to separate from their target.
Yes. Ban this breed worldwide.
I live in cape vert and 50% of dog are pitbull
I live in the USA and it seems like pit bulls are the only dogs that people care about
Most misunderstood mistreated breed of dog. They deserve more respect!✊
Is that supposed to reassure you?
@@apbt067 please look into the breed and the history of dog attacks.
I’m sure they are lovely dogs, but if they have a bad day they can be lethal.
It is interesting that a breed, about 5% to 6% of the dog population in the US, is responsible for about 67% of dog attacks that end in a human fatality, in the US.
More than all the other breeds combined.
Guess which breed?
Two great vids on YT...show a major US dog show, both vids, two pit bulls attack other dogs at the show. One was a Husky, the other I can’t remember.
Takes years of responsible training, much love, and previous tournaments, to get to this level. But yet, these two pits attacked other dogs at the show. I have seen hundreds of tournaments and have never see a dog of any other breed, attack another breed in a show.
Go figure?
Hmmmmm
Oh also you a damn lie if you gonna say pitbulls is the only dogs you ever seen attack other dogs in shows.. Ither you lieing about seeing it or 2 shows is abunch to yiu
@@nickramey8324 read what i wrote....don't tell me what i have seen, that is the height of foolish ignorance.
And on that note, learn how to spell and then maybe we can have a proper conversation. I felt like i was a crypto-analyst in Naval Intelligence, trying to decipher your childish rant.
@@nickramey8324 Of course, you can't even string together a coherent sentence and you're a shitbull nutter. OF COURSE😆😆
Some people have no idea what artificial selection means and how it is achieved.
Also, I agree with Barb, how can we on one hand not know what a pitbull is, but on another hand give the exact history of it?
I KNOW THIS IS A YEAR OLD HELL YEAH BANNED THEM TOO MANY INNOCENT PEOPLE BEING HURT BY THOSE DOGS 💯💯💯
To many of those innocent dogs being hurt by people also. Goes both ways.
the best owner/trainer of these monsters cannot control or predict what these monsters will do, wake up people, these monsters need to be eradicated.
Pitbulls have killed 2 ppl but huskys have killed 52 soooo
@@elmoL650 Oh stop you sound like the biggest idiot that ever walked the earth. Did you google pit bull attack yet and watch all the news clips ? No you didn't because it would take you 8 hours a day for months. Stop with your lies you don't know how insane you sound.
OLD MAN, you need to realize that pit bulls are dog breed and not a monster, go watch the dog whisper, he has the most sweetis and loving dogs in the world and some of them are pitbulls
Pitbulls arent monsters
That lady is nuts. Any parent shouldn't leave there kids with dogs unattended
We can forget about the breed profiling and ban ALL dogs. Even better. The red haired lady said you'd have to ban Jack Russell Terriers. Ok. She thought that was a negative???
All of this is foolish !!!! if the owner of any breed of dog bites a person the dog should be destroyed and the owner should be charged with a first class felony punishable by a min. of 5 yrs ,depending on the case , if a human being is killed , a min of 15 yrs ( no parole ) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pit bulls weren't used in WW2 LOL. Today’s pit bull is a descendant of the original English bull-baiting dog-a dog that was bred to bite and hold bulls, bears, and other large animals around the face and head. for maximum damaged but the military used Alsatians, Belgian Shepherds, Airedale Terriers, Schnauzers, Doberman Pinschers, Boxers, and Labrador Retrievers.
You need to look that up .they were petty on the little rascals was pit bull. The armed service had a poster of one during ww2. They were america s dog back then
They were on posters all over the place .i have the dog and a poster. My dog i watch very closely . but he very loving as well . i dont need to say anymore
Yes they were. Quit being ignorant
We can’t trust ppl with these dogs
best gun-self-defence reason
Chase down slaves and tear them apart?! Now that's a myth, I think she's mistaking it for a Bloodhound or Fila Brasiliero.
goosegotweed that was a type of bulldog alapah blue blood