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“If the world is against the truth, then I am against the world.” -Saint Athanasius
I’ll be praying for my Presbyterian brothers in Christ. May God protect His church from Satan and his forces who seek to corrupt and destroy it
Athanasius contra Mundum gotta be the most based motto ever
Is prayer the only weapon we have?
@@IanRomErv certainly the best one
@@LeviThoughts Then I guess the rest of us will sleep easy
@@LeviThoughtsI want a crusade.
I’m praying for my Presbyterian brothers I hope that you can push back against this heretic agenda and restore the true faith 🙏🙏🙏
There is no heretic agenda. The belief that gay people are somehow born wicked deserving to be punished for being them selves. Is bigotry. It doesn't matter if you think it's not. It is by definition
Heretic agenda? Why should I belive someone is innately evil just for being gay? Where is the evidence? Is this what your religion teaches? No wonder conservatives are losing.
Amen!
Is it really an agenda if it's the majority stance of a group?
@@noneofyourbusiness7965If think it is because It explicity contradicts the believes of the Church which are in its confessions. The confessions remains the same, they just don't follow it.
God will not abandon a just cause. For God and Christendom. No surrender. Love from a Catholic ✝️🇻🇦❤️✝️
So God hates gay people? Got it.
Im a former member of PCUSA and I swear there are so many more Catholics on this channel than Presbyterians.
-a new Catholic
based Catholic
@@hoosas5998 Even if most are unaware of it, I actually think it's quite simple
The more people have Catholic values, the more people join the Church or consider joining it. At some point, even a union might be possible and since the Catholic Church has a higher "power", we'd become the defacto Church
I will pray for your cause 🙏 The same progressive forces are at work in my Catholic Church too, but we must both hold firm to the Truth ✝️
Fervent Catholic, but I hope the Reconquista can stand strong against these heresies we both face.
Baptist here. I can't believe how far some of the leaders of the PCUSA are going. I'm praying for you brother and to continue keeping your movement alive to stop this heresy.
Though are confessions may be different, Baptists must stand with our Presbyterian brothers against the tide of corruption and Wickedness. Glory be to God and to His Kingdom!
If you're actually a Baptist then you shouldn't be calling this heretic "brother". He believes baptism and communion save, rather than faith alone in Christ.
@@wisdom1611 There are things we can disagree on but won't affect the overall beliefs. Some would argue that you only need belief (aka faith), while others would argue that action is fruit of your belief, no action = no belief. Both are rooted in the Bible. Ultimately, "do you have faith in Christ" should be the only test to consider whether you are a follower of Christ, Christian, or not
@@wisdom1611 In the end, it comes down to whether they believe Jesus Christ saved them from eternal punishment. Based off this guy's videos, he has been fairly consistent in pointing out how Jesus died for our sins. Even though he might believe that baptism saves, it doesn't mean he isn't a Christian. As long as you believe that Jesus Christ is Lord and that he saved us from our sins your saved and are written in the eternal book of life even if your views change over time. I don't agree with a lot of things that Redeemed Zoomer has said in his videos, but it doesn't stop me from supporting a fellow Christian to rid this evil.
@@wisdom1611Looking at your past comments you seem to leave a lot like these. I know you have the right intent as you want to ensure that everyone is on the right path. I understand where your coming from as God calls us to correct other Christians for what they say and do. But I question you, is this really worth the battle? It's not a heaven or hell issue and sure there may be differences in what we believe, but I think that we should let God work through others minds with the Holy Spirit. We shouldn't push down on other Christians to make ourselves appear more righteous. Otherwise we're just like the Phrases who follow legalistic rules, and have no compassion for those who might have the slightest different thought.
How does the church make something legal? What’s the punishment for illegally disobeying? They don’t control the biblical canon. They can’t retcon entire churches from heaven. I pray you’re able to stand your ground. You’ve helped me a lot in understanding my faith.
Man has no authority in this issue, only what we can cite from God's word itself.
I believe in some cases where the PCUSA (or whichever denomination) owns your church building they can basically evict you for not complying with their doctrines, I believe there was some drama of this sort featured in a Ready to Harvest or some similar channel's video.
Perhaps public protests should he done
@@kriegjaeger "Do not judge" - the only passage we will ever cite about sexual morality while ignoring all the other passages
@@danshakuimo I heard that was in the United Methodist Church, but I haven't heard about that in the other denominations.
As a Roman Catholic, I fully support what you are doing with the reconquista. Stay strong, you are in my prayers. Goodness will prevail
As an Evangelical, we are praying for you too. The enemy is coming for Rome like he is coming for us. The enemy looks for any weakness to exploit.
@@golvic1436 Thank you and God bless. Theological differences aside, nothing is more important than making sure Christianity always teaches the true Gospel of Christ’s death and Resurrection
@@Kenny-mu2xb Yes
Wonder when they will turn Catholic. Sad they ban them in their server
They should not be using the word reconquista the reconquista was a fight for Christendom this is backwards evolution
The conservatives must remain strong in the face of this evil. This cannot be allowed. In the words of Martin Luther: "Here I stand; I can do no other, so help me God!"
Irrelevant, but: I love your profile picture!
So conservatives must remain strong by being discrimatory and bigoted?
The conservatives should save the church the old fashioned way.
The conservatives here must yield in the face of goodness, they must open their hearts and see people.
I hope you take the L.
@@IanRomErv What do you mean?
This basically means it’s a “secular” church. I pray that you are successful in your reform efforts. RC from WI
Question. Why should I believe someone is innately evil just for being born gay? It just seems you're using God as an excuse to be bigoted. Is God a bigot then?
@@mantispunchBecause we believe that everyone (well, except Jesus) is born a sinner.
@mantispunch intentionally evil? no, a sinner? yes, just like everyone. Sex before marriage, masturbation, porn are all sins, its not just homosexuality
@@mantispunch It's not that gays in particular are evil, it's that everyone is a sinner, gay or straight. And while the church shouldn't affirm homosexuality, it shouldn't reject gay people from the church because we are all sinners, and gay people are no different.
@@maxxiong Couldn't God just make everyone without being born a sinner?
Good luck Presbyterians us Baptists are praying for you✝️🙏
Darn right we are. 🙏💪
Yep! No matter what the LORD will be by your sides!
Amen
Fellow baptist that stands beside you
Amen
From a PCA Presbyterian (sorry, I have kids), I really believe in you guys and think you’re doing an amazing thing for the church. I hope the PCUSA, my former church, isn’t beyond saving. Best of luck gentlemen.
lol...what makes you think PCA is safe? It took nearly 12 years or so to finally say firm "NO" to Greg Johnson's efforts. However, the damage had been done already. He already gained support from several churches.
@@thomasc9036 every PCA church near me is unequivocally against sin and preaches the Bible every Sunday. My own church takes a firm stance against modern culture in the ways it clashes with a Christian, biblical lifestyle. That’s more than enough for me.
@@bravesfan714 lol... PCA and other Presbyterian churches are governed through presbyteries and the general assembly. Your "local churches" matter very little when it comes to policies. You may want to read up on how presbyterian churches are governed.
@@thomasc9036 I’m well aware of how presbyteries work, and it’s part of the reason my local churches are so great like they are. Also, local presbyteries and congregations actually have a lot more individual authority than you might realize, unless you just have a naive and shallow understanding of how the Presbyterian structure actually works. You’re pretty clearly here to try and condescend and stir up an argument, so I’m gonna just let you be. 👍🏻
@@bravesfan714 If that was so, then how did PCUSA end up like this? You think PCA is safe from being liberalized? Read the Epistles. You think Apostle Paul left churches he founded in shambles?
It is absolutely ridiculous that this has become a serious problem in modern day churches, God help us all, and God bless you RZ for fighting against the tide
@FilioquistI don’t think it’s funny. The way they leave the Word outside and keep the building
I am a baptist but I fully support this movement to restore biblical Christianity in the world, may God bless you all and help you to stand firm on the rock of faith, where no storm of heresy and evil can knock over
I pray for my brothers in the PCUSA
Stay strong! As a conservative Catholic who suffers from the same problem, I pray for your success!
At least with us its just an abusable document, with them its the real deal
@@igorlopes7589yeah Fiducia Suplicans is literally a nothing burger next to this. And Fiducia is a huge deal.
Oh come on, same problem? You comparing Fiducia Supplicans with literally being kicked out of your church for not affirming and attending gay "marriages"? I'm all for sympathy, but it's so different in scale it may come across as mocking to those who know.
FS is a perfectly orthodox document with the one and only critique that it's ambiguous at parts. Which allows what? Confusion and scandal at best, which though pretty bad, it's not outright heresy.
Our critiques of the Church at large involve it being too soft on heretics, or too silent on topics of the week.
There's zero indication the Church is going anywhere except where it stands. Rome has made clear that there won't be any deviations in teaching.
Dude, we will never have this issue in the Curia.
@@FlyingGospel FS is just an attempt to stop the Germans from going into schism. Its not going to work obviously.
As a former United Methodist who fled that church I can totally sympathize with your situation. Only repentance and revival will save the church and our nation.
You’re doing a great job. Keep up the work no matter what they say!
The Orthodox Church will continue to stand until Christ's return.
Don't bet on it. The Russian Orthodox church is run by a Putin stooge. Other branches are in different states of goodness or badness.
It seems that Church is one of the few who will.
Correct.
They are many orthodox priest that support LGBT they fly LGBT flag up in the air in their churches
Nope. It will be home gatherings completely underground
Straight from Satan. Deceived because they know not the truth and do not want to go by God's word. Praying for all. Jesus, rescue, wrath is coming
I pray for His swift return. I can see the sharp decline into apostasy and the suffering of this generation is so severe, but can we even begin to imagine the next? Or the one following?
All of it fell apart in one generation it seems.
@kriegjaeger if you look closely, it wasn't accidental. Hidden behind the guise of righteousness, it was a calculated plot. Ever listened to Yuri Besminov? He was a propaganda specialist for the kgb that defected to Canada. He explained it all. The school was the church of liberalism.
The good news is this isn't the first time satan has tried this trick and God has changed things at the last minute it would seem in generations before. Like the Jesus revolution, no body talks about the 1000s of hippies saved in the 1970s, it is practically completely unheard of now, but it happened. It is calculated and evil, but Don't give up hope is what I am saying
Christians need to become crusaders.
Can you please explain to me this. I was told gay people aren't bad but gay acts are bad but some heterosexual acts are bad if they aren't in the context of marriage but then gay people can't get married accoring to your religion Which means you are making it so THE ONE thing that makes it okay, they can't have? How is this fair?
@@mantispunch
Marriage is between a Man and a Woman to produce children and have families.
I just asked the head pastor at my church, Presbyterian Church of the Master, what PCOM's position would be if this passes. His response was "The session and pastors maintain and affirm the biblical understanding of God’s intention for human sexuality and standards for leadership in the church. "
awesome, tell him to email me at gospelfortheleast@gmail.com
A standard non-committal answer that even a gay pastor will give. Notice the vague phrase "God's intention". A gay-affirming pastor will say "God's intention is for two people who love and are committed to each other".
I guarantee you that if you press the pastor to be clear on what "God's intention" means and he will get upset.
@@thomasc9036That two people will eventually grow to two or more at this rate
Praying for you guys! From the Brazilian Presbyterian Church🙏🙏
I’d love to see what the presby church is like in Brazil. Anywhere I can get a glimpse at ?
@@bryanbaez4412it is mostly conservative like the pca, not even close to the liberalism and progressivism seen in the pcusa and other mainline denominations in the US
@@bryanbaez4412 the problems around here are that we have some churches that are not that ortodox in reformed tradition, sometimes being influenced by pentecostal and non-denominational churches
@@gabriellucas9194 you know the Pentecostal influence I figured. South American countries are known for that. Thank you for the info
@bryanbaez4412 They also have a special love for freemasons.
"We must not mind insulting men, if by respecting them we offend God." -Saint John Chrysostom
Liking comments already, what a legend.
God bless
@@redeemedzoomer6053 lots of love from your Catholic brethren. We’re also starting to see the beginnings of some of this (Just look at what’s happening in Ireland), and hope we can prevent it before it truly damages His Holy Church. You are an inspiration to us all, keep fighting.
I'm so glad I found this video. I've been a Presbyterian for 70 yrs, and have been fed up with my PCUSA church for over 20 yrs. You guys are so right, and I agree with you on everything. At my age, I'm ready to just quit, stay home and read my Bible every Sunday. I get 100 times more inspiration doing this than watch pastors read their sermons, prayers, and even the benedictions. Calling God she, her and heavenly parent. I'd be glad if they kick me out. John Calvin and Knox would turn over in their graves. But I love your video, and good luck and God bless you. And thanks for seeing this problem! My church, if one would jump off the roof, everyone would follow!
Deuteronomy 20:19-20
“When you besiege a city a long time, to make war against it in order to capture it, you shall not destroy its trees by swinging an axe against them; for you may eat from them, and you shall not cut them down. For is the tree of the field a man, that it should be besieged by you? Only the trees which you know are not fruit trees you shall destroy and cut down, that you may construct siegeworks against the city that is making war with you until it falls."
Could I please have an explanation on what this means in relation to the video? God bless you.
@@laurentroland6847 It's certainly not the literal meaning (rules of warfare), but the secondary meaning (not intended by the human author, but revealed by the Spirit)
Unfortunately, I also don't know what it's meant to be in relation to the video.
These verses reminded Israelites that they were there to conquer the dens of evil, and to make these lands prosper. Collateral damage (even when it comes to trees) should be toned down to zero. Those good trees had the potential to give good fruit for the future.
The only trees that could be cut down are those that won't ever give anything productive. That's an exception, not the rule, and it's only while the battle is ongoing.
You COULD draw parallels to certain situations. Non-negotiable respect for the innocent, reverence to Creation, to be temperate our battles.
But I can't think of anything that I could draw upon this particular situation. Redeemed Zoomer isn't going scorched earth on anyone, in fact he's saving the "good trees" through his strategy, and if he ever cuts anything(anyone) out it's the ones that "don't give fruit"
Was this God exercising my Biblical analysis skills? Showing me an irrelevant passage and get my obsessive self to analyze it to death?
Or did I miss something?
God have mercy...
I wouldn't say the passage relates to this and the fact that the church has already conquered these people and that these people are now trying to change their Church
@@alonsoACR Its likely meaning to not be angered or vengeful of those in the church that played no hand in causing this dilemma as Philo, a Jewish scholar of the first century, cited this law, explaining that Yaweh (Yaweh being the name of god) thinks it "unjust that the anger which is excited against men should wreak itself on things which are innocent of all evil," as Yaweh is still waiting for the sheep like ones (Matt 25:32) to be found before the end comes.
@@laurentroland6847 ^
i attend a fairly conservative catholic church in a politcally liberal and wealthy suburb of an american midwest city. our church is thriving but we are right next to methodist, presbyterian, and liberal lutheran churches which i doubt will be open in 25 years....very sad...but they have lots of nice flags
Lord have mercy on the leaders of the PCUSA. I hope they open their hearts to Christ and stop pushing the progressive heresy.
As a Lutheran I’m praying for you guys I love the incentive and the whole move in general.
God is on your side, do not be discouraged. Prayers.
We got to stand tall
As a Catholic, all I can say is Godspeed, boys.
I'll pray for our brother in christ for the salvation of the christians in America
Salute from a Brazilian Lutheran 🇧🇷✝️🤝🇺🇸✝️
Even though I’m not Presbyterian, I’ll be praying that God will strengthen you in this fight, and that the heresy of theological liberalism will forever be crushed like so many heresies throughout Church history. God bless you, my brother in Christ. Deus vult.
Praying for you Brother Zoomer, Brother David. Godspeed.
Fyi zoomer’s name is Richard
Catholic here, praying for you guys. Is there anything we can do to help with this?
How could we help? Only the Vatican itself could have any influence in PCUSA, and that only through ecumenical dialogue
@@igorlopes7589we could pray
Francis is on the same page as the PCUSA.
I'm so proud of your fight, God willing the heretics and wolves will be revealed and removed. It's sad to see the state of your church, but it's incredibly inspiring to see you refuse to fold.
"The ultimate tragedy is not the oppression and cruelty by the bad people but the silence over that by the good people."
You are the oppressors
@@bananewane1402 Hmm... those who lable others without arguments are terrorists.
@@bananewane1402R u zure 'bout dagh?
@@bananewane1402 "You are the oppressors" - the moloch worshippers, to Josiah, probably
The doors to the Orthodox Church are always open my friend☦
I would go there, I like a lot of it's wisdom and standings. If they would behave biblically and would let go of all of the Roman idolatry and witchcraft ("transforming" bread and wine, for example).
this saddens me, may christ be with you presbyterians.☦
ex PCUSA Catholic here, I hope you guys can pull this off
This action tells me they are scared. Stay strong and you are in my prayers. Us traditional anglicans stand with your efforts. Have the courage of Peter, Paul, Athanasius, and Luther to stand for the truth!
I’m not a Presbyterian but have love for my Christian brothers and sister worldwide. In my country of England the very same progressivism is taking control of our mainline Churchs. I stand with you in faith and prayer for your success in recapturing your church and prey also that we can do the same. Glory be to God.
On the behalf of the First Presbyterian Church of Lambertville, New Jersey. We support your mission in trying to correct the PCUSA. May God bless and lead you.
I thank God fhat our church (shoutout to all Pentecostals) none of the centries trends have affected our church and I prophesize that these churches will make a comeback, will be freed from this agenda and will be joyful and have faith in the lord throuought the process
Activism is their salvation. Activism is their messiah.
Our Lord shall not abandon you, if you remain faithful. Prayers from a Catholic. God bless. ✝️🇻🇦✝️
Us, the Presbyterian Church of India-Mizoram Synod used to have a partnership with PCUSA since 1999, but unfortunately that partnership came to an end back in 2012 because of this particular reason.
As said by one of the member, "Members of the SEC said the ordaining of gay ministers and consent to same-sex marriages were the principal reasons behind the fall out as it is was “against the Biblical truth”.
“…We are in complete disagreement over such decisions that have serious practical ramifications. We hence have decided to end our partnership with them,” said Rev Malsawmtluanga, a member of the Mizoram Synod Executive Commitee.
God bless you all
@btssupreme921 cute bait you got over there
You are fighting a very uphill battle. You have my prayers.
Even though I'm a Baptist, I pray for your success and that these radicals against Christ are prevented from their agenda.
I am in the Church of Scotland, and I feel this type of thing will be coming for us soon. We are in a very similar position to the PCUSA.
Pray for Anchor ⚓️ Presbyterian in Bucks County Pa USA! 🇺🇸
Praying for you all. I’m happy to see my church listed in your map you posted recently
Of all things, I didn't expect the liberals to ACTIVELY combat the reconquista... I guess they don't know that's not what Christianity is about.
I did, they hate the light so they'll fight tooth and nail to stay in the darkness
@@potatoheadpokemario1931
How do you know you are not the one in the dark? Or is that an assumption because you believe God agrees with you?
@@mattd398 I believe God agree with me because his Bible agrees with me, if you don't agree with the Bible you have rejected Christianity and shouldn't pretend to be a Christian
@@potatoheadpokemario1931
Or you assume that what you believe aligns with 'the Bible.'
So if you don't agree with the Bible, then a person isn't a Christian. That sucks since the Bible doesn't want to agree with itself, and should I agree the Bible and be able to beat my slaves/servants or whatever you want to call them? Or I can go buy slaves from the other nations?
@@mattd398Descriptions of slavery in the Bible are just that: descriptive. They are not proscriptive.
"Marriage is not just any relationship between human beings. It was established by the Creator with its own nature, essential properties and purpose. No ideology can erase from the human spirit the certainty that marriage exists solely between a man and a woman, who by mutual personal gift, proper and exclusive to themselves, tend toward the communion of their persons." Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger as Prefect for the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith
never liked the guy
Sending prayers from a non-dom brother in Christ. I pray that this wont be discouraging rather it will only shine Gods truth brighter.
But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly of my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may rest upon me. For the sake of Christ, then, I am content with weaknesses, insults, hardships, persecutions, and calamities. For when I am weak, then I am strong. 2 Cor.:9-10 ESV.
Peace be with you and your ministry. God bless yall because you hold true to what the Holy scripture teaches and don't give way to the worlds distractions. I hope my encouragement goes a long way, all glory to God.
1:26 Ouch this hits hard. Can confirm, older left-wing folk (e.g. JK Rowling) and even myself as someone in gen z, even in a non-religious sense, we've been finding ourselves being called "alt-right" and the names that come with that for the exact same beliefs we were called "SJW" for only 10 years ago. And ironically, despite us not being true right-wing, only right-wing spaces accept us at all.
I've tried my hardest to stay on the progressive train, but I simply had too many questions and seen how it affected both myself and others (e.g. with gender ideology, being encouraged to be anything other than normal, if you're just a tomboy it's a sign you're actually trans). But you're simply not allowed to question anything, or disagree with _one_ thing.
RZ is wrong when he says Leftism is a religion at this point it's a cult
The tomboy/trans thing is incredibly real and incredibly sad. As much as progressive rhetoric likes to proclaim itself a champion of diversity, it often slams walls around people who behave in ways it deems discordant to its own set of dogmas (if a girl behaves in ways that aren't traditionally feminine, she must actually be a boy!).
Also interestingly, the first thing you brought up happens a lot, and I find it actually has the effect of taking people who hold positions that are realistically moderate, and effectively forcing them into radicalization. A person who holds opinions that were normal 20 years ago would now be considered right-wing, and alienated from non right-wing spaces accordingly. Eventually, as the progressive ideology grows farther and farther from normalcy, the only groups that will even accept once-moderates will be extremists.
Already, by holding the position that homosexuality is a sin according to Leviticus, you will find yourself rejected by leftists and moderates alike. And once you're a part of those groups, pretty much everything is on the table, including legitimately extreme positions.
Regardless of any moral value judgement, a rejection of transgender people is in fact a conservative position.
@@FriarJoe66 Problem is though, the meaning of that has went under extreme changes. Now, if you even disagree that someone is a cat, you're accused of being conservative.
@@cheese-bg1xq I wouldn’t say the meanings have gone through extreme changes, they’ve just been forced to consider new developments. What progressive/conservative means is broadly consistent across time, so long as you’re not referring to specific groups that adopt those names.
I have no doubt you will succeed, you got this.
May God give the strengh needed for you to stand and prevail!
Put on your armor boys. Things are just getting started.
If you can do it in the PCUSA, I’ll bet the rest of the mainline will follow. Praying for your efforts! Let’s continue in a Christlike manner!
Praying for you my brothers,
God bless you from germany🇩🇪
Germany ain't better sadly
@@kingsoftheeast yea, its even worse to be honest
@@Mohler41 Even most Catholics are heretics here
Glory to God for all things. Continue fighting the good fight. Victory is inevitable through Christ ☦
As a Baptist(basically non denominationalist) I’ll be praying for you guys and your mission to help bring the kingdom of God! you guys are literally doing the Lord’s work. Keep going. Your faith will manifest into the fruits of the Holy Spirit.
Praying for my reformed brothers from Indonesia
Praying for my Presbyterian brothers and sisters! Now is the time to stand up strong for God's truth and not give in! The Lord is with you!
I'm from Europe, so sadly i cannot join you guys in this important fight for the churchd directly, but i will support you all by means of prayer!🙏✝️🕊 "Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be filled" Matthew 5:6
I think it's the wrong angle to say "it's not effective" or "we're fighting for tradition." It doesn't matter how effective or traditional it is or isn't; we're fighting for the truth. God defines marriage. God defines sin. It isn't ambiguous. The "moderate" position on this was the progressive one all along.
Presbyteries and Congregations need to remain in the PCUSA and ignore or nullify any Unbiblical actions of their Presbytery or the General Assembly.
The Presbyterian Church (USA) voted to allow same-gender marriages on 19 June 2014 during its 221st General Assembly, making it one of the largest Christian denominations in the world to openly accept same-sex unions.
God bless them
Praying for you guys. Keep fighting the good fight. You’re not alone!
We Orthodox and Catholic brothers await you guys with open arms.
As disturbing as this turn of events is, I have to admit it's kind of cool seeing you getting a bit fired up! This channel and movement have played a key part in helping ground my faith. You'll be in my prayers and I hope to be so bold when the day comes I must stand for my faith.
Stand Strong! Don't give up!
Praying for you and the universal Church to stand strong for biblical truth and the gospel
God Bless! I’ll pray for y’all.
I will say that it is not a minor theological problem… it strikes at the core of the image of God and what that means. There is a reason it effects other doctrines in a 1:1 correlation.
Our church switched from RCA to PCA due to progressive Christianity. Praying for your movement to take hold.
shouldn't have run away
As a catholic, their actions are disgusting and I fully support your guys cause. I pray for your success✝️🤝✝️
Praying for you❤️☦️
@btssupreme921 “🤓”-🤓
@btssupreme921 Imagine getting really irritated from nothing lmao.
@btssupreme921 🇰🇵>🇰🇷
@@btssupreme921 Kim Jong-Un created BTS as a joke for the South.
You have an ally here in the Anglican Church, I will 100% be praying for the PCUSA!! God is sovereign, much love my brothers from here in Australia ❤️✝️📖❤️🔥
As a Roman Catholic, I am praying for your victory.
As a Lutheran, I will certainly be praying for my Presbyterian brothers and sisters! The truth will prevail! 🙏🏾
Did not realize there were people in your denomination fighting this. So happy you are. Keep up the good fight.
Although I'm not reformed (Conservative Methodists) I hope you will win. Stay strong brothers!
Prayers headed your way. Love from Southern Baptist. You guys are doing great work.
Hey, Redeemed Zoomer I attend a PCUSA church at home (I am away at college). I believe my church is on your map as well. One of my best friends was recently confirmed as an elder and I talked to him about this. I really hope this doesn't pass. I will continue the fight until I am kicked out.
I haven't been in the PCUSA since my family left almost a decade ago and the church we moved to went to ECO (the pastor got railroaded out over some nonsense by the synod I think, coincidentally it was the final straw for the church we moved to and made them join ECO). Our leaving wasn't related to anything that we're seeing now, but even then we were hearing the beginning rumblings. It saddens me that things have fallen this far. The church we moved to is getting more and more members as Presbyterians and Methodists flee their churches, which is one of the last ways I want it to grow. I worry that if PCUSA keeps going down this road, it'll lose so many members it collapses in on itself. But if that happens, I'm not sure there's anyone to blame but themselves. I'll be praying for you all. If other PCUSA churches are losing members like the ones in our area are, it's going to be all the more hard to get numbers to fight against this.
'if you are not inclusive by our definition, we will exclude you'
Problem is: Your definition excludes people, if we are inclusive about your definition we'll be including exclusion
@@etruscanetwork the church does not need to be inclusive by cultural standards, it needs to hold to biblical ones. Jesus said not all would be saved, not all will know Him
@@etruscanetwork A church that concedes the word of its God worships nothing.
@@etruscanetworkwhat’s the point of being in the church if you’re not going to follow its teachings? You can go be gay and “inclusive” but don’t force the mainline church to follow your beliefs when they don’t represent Christianity
@@Fede_uyz This seriously misreads the passage regarding the Bereans.
The context for the Berean incident is found in Acts 17:1-10. When Paul and Silas initially visited the Macedonian city of Thessalonica, they began preaching and making converts, which led to conflict with some in the Jewish community: “And taking some wicked fellows of the rabble, they gathered a crowd, set the city in an uproar, and attacked the house of Jason, seeking to bring them out to the people” (Acts 17:5).
They then dragged Jason and some of the new Christians before the city authorities, charging them with sedition against Caesar (Acts 17:6-7). The situation was so alarming that the Thessalonian Christians hurriedly sent Paul and Silas away by night (when traveling was not safe) to the nearby city of Berea. The non-Christian Jews in Thessalonica remained so opposed to Paul that they sent men to pursue him to Berea and incite the crowds against him, forcing him to flee at once to Athens (Acts 17:13-15).
That is the background against which the statement that the Bereans were more “noble” (other translations: “open-minded”) than the Thessalonians. The contrast is not between credulous Thessalonians, who accepted whatever Paul said without evidence, and skeptical Bereans, who demanded proof from Scripture. It is between actively hostile Thessalonians and Bereans who “received the word with all eagerness” (Acts 17:11).
This is no prooftext for sola scriptura. Paul’s message did not include merely things found in the Old Testament Scriptures. It included the many new elements of the Christian faith. What the Bereans did was confirm the basic elements of his message (i.e., the fact that Jesus fulfilled messianic prophecy) and then proceeded to accept all the new, unwritten teachings that were part of it (e.g., baptism, the Eucharist, the inclusion of Gentiles in God’s people without circumcision).
Not a Presbytarian, but as a Lutheran I salute you and will have you in my prayers. I hope you succeed in your mission to push back against these lunatics doing the evil one's work. May God protect his church and lead you to victory in restoring the true faith.
Keep up the good work! Love from a Catholic brother🇻🇦
Praying for all who profess faith and want to serve the Lord and love truth over the world. May your efforts turn away those who strive to glorify sin.
Me when I have to love thy neighbor
Don't worry, the Catholics will welcome you with open arms
As will the Eastern Orthodox, stronger united than divided ☦️🤝✝️
Praying for you here from Australia!
Good luck! I'll be praying for you guys.
This sort of thing (being successfully implemented and enforced) is the reason I left The Episcopal Church. I think a layman can still be a faithful Christian and an Episcopalian, but you can't be a faithful Christian Bishop, and you're probably going to be compromised even as a priest or a deacon.
Yeah, at this point GAFCON stands a much better chance at succeeding.
Please consider coming back home to the Catholic Church. Your strength can help make us stronger. We must stand together. I truly in my heart believe Martin Luther would approve. Much love my Christian brothers.❤
I don't think we need to "come back", after all, any denomination that follows the one true faith is part of God's big family, we never really "left", we're all one in Christ.
Bruh Martin Luther made it pretty clear what he wanted.
As a Lutheran, I do pray that our church can reunite with Rome one day while still respecting our different traditions.
Praying for you and your movement, not only because you are a friend, but because you truly are laborers in the battle for orthodoxy 🙏
I'll be praying for you guys in the PCUSA.
Stay strong!
Love from a Southern Baptist (PS: Fight till you have nothing left to possibly give)
@@btssupreme921 huh? Who are you talking about? Who is this "He"?
@@btssupreme921 they aren't lol.
@@btssupreme921 Nobody said anything about pagans, and I doubt you can show me anywhere RZ said any such thing.
@@Zed-Corps That’s not a Christian thing to say. All of us are made in the image of God, so when you say such a thing you are insulting God. We were all once enemies of Christ before we were saved by Him. So we are no better than pagans.
@@gigahorse1475 it's a bot, not a human, nothing but code behind that account.