Thomas Sowel's life story would be a hell of a film. As would Frederick Douglas's, or Garrett Morris or George Washington Carver, or Red Foxx, and so on ad infinitum.
Sowell grew up in Harlem, tried out for the Dodgers, joined the marines, graduated from Harvard, has written over a dozen books and is genuinely brilliant.
Jada completely destroyed Will Smith, it was even more apparent following the infamous slap, how she used him to elevate herself as a victim. She is one of the most horrible people in Hollywood, as long as Will will stay with her, he's never going to get better. She's more than toxic, she's a succubus tearing at his soul!
I try not to be too hard on Will because when he finally says enough is enough and dumps her ass, the divorce is going to make Amber Turd look like mary sunshine and he's going to need all the support he can get.
That horrid and repulsive woman has ruined his entire life regardless of what he does now. She's already humiliated , embarrassed , emasculated and degraded him. Will Smith used to be a leading man and I enjoyed his movies because he came across as a mans man , a wise cracking, witty and strong man who can handle himself. Now I and many others just see him as a cuck, beta simp who is weak and ruled by a vile and vindictive woman and its tarnished all his other movie roles. The difference is and I myself am sort of guilty of this is we don't see him as the victim or a survivor and its clear she's mentally and emotionally torturing the poor guy but because he's Male theres all the stigma that he can't be a victim when he is. Lets say if he decides he's had enough and decides to divorce her imagine how much of his money she will take and she wont miss an opportunity to not be in the limelight so she'll drag it out for as long and publicly as she possibly can. I'm not a detective or a psychic or anything but I always knew something about Jada was off, there was just something about her that brought up red flags to me. She's done all the damage now and all the radical feminists will be cheering her on about how strong, empowered, stunning and brave she is and how she's shattered the glass ceiling and the patriarchy when the cold reality is she's a disgusting pig that nobody should aspire to be like
@@laurarules3642 That's was quite the reply but HOLY SHIT did you hit the nail flawlessly! Couldn't have said it better! Thank you for putting into words what I literally feel about this entire situation, I speak mainly French so it's harder to translate such deep thoughts!
Will Smith: "My career tanked because I assaulted Chris Rock. Time to play the Ace up my sleeve - my race card. It's bullet proof; anyone who criticizes it will magically become a racist in the eyes of all others. _Emancipation_ ? What's this script my agent says...?"
@@RodCornholio The man lost it. Hardly the worst thing to happen when someone has lost control. Not saying you should forgive him (I don't know why you would need to seeing as how he didn't slap YOU) but give it a rest at least. Maybe Will and Antoine wanted to tell this story for years. I mean we are getting a movie about Oppenheimer this year. Will you be posting about you can't criticize that one out of fear of being called antisemitic??? Not everything is attached to the culture war. Black people exist, get over it. This is from someone who is antiwoke but you people who see it where it isn't are just as insufferable.
I agree that this movie should've been a documentary. In this day and age of activism, social bullying/shaming, and a sad resurgence of racism (particularly from the left), the degree of embellishment in these types of stories make it far too easy to brush this story off as an exaggeration of the truth for the sake of a current-day message. I've never heard of this Peter, nor about the picture. That's something worth learning about and worth learning it right. Screw the message. Give me the facts. Honor this man's legacy by letting today's world know the most researched and verified truth about him and his impact.
My recommendation for Will Smith: do smaller, indie films for a few years, not big "Important" message movies. The best Will Smith movie I've seen -- that wasn't a comedy or action movie -- was "Six Degrees of Separation".
I've never seen anything from Smith that makes me think he's a good dramatic actor. He's a charming guy and great in roles with a comedic bent, but that's his lane. It feels like 15 years ago he got self-conscious about it, and now he's fighting as hard as he can to be seen as legitimate.
I agree. I get that he wants to be taken seriously as an actor, but these roles don't suit him. People went to his movies because they liked Will Smith. He was a charisma actor. Unfortunately he seems to have lost that too.
Incorrect, overall the 20th Century was a great century, even with all the horrible things like the two world wars, nazis and the holocaust, and communist terror. Overall living standards got a lot better for a hell of a lot of people worldwide, people got older, got more free, emancipated; medical breakthroughs that bettered so many people's lives. Billions of people. It's unpresidented how over the course of the 20th century things changed for the better overall compared to previous centuries.
I greatly prefer documentaries for subjects like this, because with a normal film there's always a question of what, exactly, is historically accurate, and more importantly, what, exactly, has been added for the sake of entertainment or narrative. In other words, I always wonder if there isn't an exploitative element, no matter how earnest the filmmakers.
Will Smith had a way to get out from under the whole slap thing. All he had to do was follow Robert Downey Jr's example. Own up to what he did and take the punishment for it. It would have been uncomfortable. He might have had to spend a little time in jail. It wouldn't have been much and it probably would have just been time served while waiting for trial. Then it would have been over. He could have moved on like Robert Downey Jr did after he had served his time and was released. Instead, he dodged any kind of accountability even though he committed a crime on camera in front of a huge crowd. He committed a crime in front of the whole world and walked away scot-free. People are going to remember that for as long as he is in the public eye. He is never going to be able to move on.
The slap was atrocious and wrong but when you think of why the slap happened and the story behind it with Jada it just makes the whole situation a million times more humiliating . At least RDJ could say he was out of his mind on drugs and alcohol ,it still doesn't make a crime right because you're under the influence but people can say Ok I understand that. With Will and the slap you have got to understand his back story that Jada was cheating on him , controlling him, dominating him and humiliating him and it makes Will look kinda weak and pathetic. And people will also remember all that for the rest of his life when the slap is brought up. Johnny Depp handled it right because he got the hell away from the toxic and disgusting Amber Heard and fought her but Will just seems weak and pitiful and has made no attempt to leave. He might be the victim of her terrible mental and emotional abuse but he's not trying to help himself and is content to stay with a horrible POS like her
I LOVE watching you guys and listening to your reviews. Thank you for all your content. That being said, I completely disagree about the “way” this was filmed….I hated the “saturated” choice. I wanted color. And it was really hard supporting WS….too soon for me. Thanks for your videos.
The British had already abolished slavery in their part of the world long before this photo had come out. Public opinion of slavery had already turned against the practice long before the Americans decided against it. It was the Europeans and their colonies putting pressure on America to end their purchase of slaves, that and the British had ended a lot of the slave markets in Africa.
It’s a bit more complicated than we can discuss on UA-cam. The US had banned the importation of slaves in 1808 after the passage of the Act Prohibiting Importation of Slaves in 1807. Great Britain prohibited slavery in GB alone in the reign of Elizabeth I @ 1600 but allowed the slave trade in its colonies. Great Britain passed the Act to Abolish the TransAtlantic Slave Trade in 1807, same as the US. GB’s Slavery Abolition Act in 1807 passed in 1834. And some colonies were exempt. And Caribbean slaves had to work off debt and were not fully freed until 1838. Factories in GB depended on US cotton and they knew it was a slave based commodity. There was a significant faction in GB that wanted to recognize the Confederacy. Only by The Emancipation Proclamation was the US able to end that threat. Another interesting point is that if the Mexican rebellion had not defeated the French, Mexico and France were moving towards recognizing and aiding the Confederacy. It’s why we celebrate Cinco de Mayo.
Give me 'Big Sam' from Gone With The Wind over Will Smith posturing any day, and yes, i would rather watch a good documentary about Peter than this movie. There are actual recordings on youtube of real slaves and they are so interesting.
Thank you, modern mainstream film/series writers/actors/directors/producers for continuing to do boring, preachy films. I don't have to waste money to go to the cinema or subscribe to Noflix and others. It gives me a plethora of time to watch films that were made long before this crapfest time, films I haven't watched yet. Not to mention catching up on not-yet-listened music. This combined will take a lifetime of quality entertainment enjoyment.
The North also still had slaves at the time.....I would highly recommend Rageaholic's Abraham Lincoln on a lot of historical misconceptions and narratives of the Civil War. Something like Judas and the Black Messiah is a much needed story that needs to be talked about as well but those is power don't want us talking about it.
I seem to remember that the TV series War and Remembrance also showed full frontal on US network TV, long before Shindler's List. Incidentally the scenes were also from the Holocaust.
I think will was used as a ploy due to bad globe ratings an artist loved by all more than likely to bounce back from a mistake especially since he's a minority they thought people would show mercy but it back fired
If it was planned out they would have chosen a justifiably offensive joke. No way he obliterated his career and reputation for award show ratings, why would he care?
After what atrocities committed? You conveniently forgot britain was the largest colonizer on planet earth. You white people are amazing how you white wash history.
They're right, Apple shouldn't have released this now, they should have waited. I just naturally assumed even I first heard of this film that Smith had taken it as a nakedly transparent attempt to clean up Smith's image, or at the very least change the conversation about him. I was surprised that it had already been filmed. It really must be bad if critics felt like they could give it bad reviews.
I agree. I wish there were movies about the incredible achievements black people have made all through history. It's important to know the evilness of slavery but also important to know the stories of all.the people who rose up past, present and future pride.
I'm just sad about hate crimes against Asians. Whomever might be committing these acts, shame on you. I can't imagine the perpetrators using the suffering of their ancient ancestors to justify horrific racist crimes today.
The movie sounds pretty interesting with the switch from escape to a Saving Private Ryan style story. I also wonder how well they handle the religious aspect. Still I’m in agreement with Dante here. Tell other black stories! There’s more to our history than just this! Heck you don’t even have to just do American blacks!
hrmmm Prep myself ya say .... nah Challenge accepted got it qued to play righ after this . thats all the prep ill do , I love the Reviews thanks Film Threat . Ben Foster as a Bad guy is scary tbh I dont know what it is about him but he always Plays one hell of a scary Bad guy
I wanted to like it, but as a historian of the civil war in Louisiana, there were too many inaccuracies. The treatment of the slaves by the Confederate Army as portrayed by the filmmakers would not have had occurred since the slave owners would never allowed their “property” and “investments” to be discarded that way. I did not like the color saturation and the ending and even the famous photo felt tacked on to an escape film.
The movie comes across as "Oscar Bait" and out of date messaging. If you want to beat someone over the head with the topic, tell a story about the failures of Reconstruction. These stories need to be told, but push the story too hard and you lose even a sympathetic audience. As far as the audience is concerned, we have been flooded for so long with movies that are angry, dark and meant to lecture us. We need something uplifting again. Just look at the Superman/Henry Cavill situation. Audiences are begging for an aspirational hero again and we aren't getting it.
Couldn't make it through Precious or Twelve Years a Slave...or Marley and Me...but Twelve Years was immediately like being hit with a sledgehammer of 'this is obviously bad, do you get it? DO YOU?' Yes, yes I do, leave me alone now. But I thoroughly agree that the documentary would be a deeper experience.
I'm involved in dog and cat rescue. It can be very rewarding but I also get exposed to some really sick shit and unfortunately have a good understanding of how cruel humans can be. Would I want to watch a movie about some of the stuff I've seen or heard about? Hell no. I get enough depressing stuff in real life. I prefer happy or empowering stories.
A few years ago Michael B Jordans name was attached to `Liberators` chronicaling the exploits of the Black Panther tank unit that served in World War 2.....its such a compelling story.........Similiar in some respects to the story of Red Tails, produced by George Lucas but with so much more to it. I really hope this movie eventually sees the light of day.
It's not playing in theaters? Oh well, I'm very iffy on slavery films. I liked 12 Years, really loved Django and watched Underground Railroad because I'm a fan of Barry Jenkins. This however like the Tragedy of Macbeth wasn't playing in my state at all. It's funny because if I'm correct, Will Smith turned down Django Unchained....
This movie is not going to get the tracking they are hoping for largely because of the bifurcation of the steering landscape. If I had most or all of the service subscriptions my monthly bill would be about the same as the cable bill we rejected.
To what extent does another film of this kind enrich the film landscape or lead to an increase of insight? Movies of this kind, which show the abysses of slavery and racism, have been more than enough in recent years, haven't they? Besides, films like "The Birth of a Nation" or "12 Years a Slave" always have something of a torture p***o in my humble opinion. Instead of another movie like this, I would rather have more movies like "Get Out" or "BlacKkKlansman" that dare to do something new and interesting. That make you think instead of just shocking and make you feel miserable.
It isn't just the "personal life" baggage that made this attempt fail... it's that combined with the vehicle that he chose. Selling the "black oppression" narrative is usually a pretty safe bet in this day & age... maybe not as a huge money maker... but at least from a critical standpoint. As convoluted & manipulative as those stories usually are... having a guy use that specific vehicle to get past the obstacles that he created himself might be "a bridge to far" for most folks.
I usually keep my mouth shut on topics like this, but I've read a couple of comments, and I just want to give people a different perspective. I was raised to accept everyone on their own merits (my parents were real progressives, not what we have today). They grew up during Jim Crow, '37 and '43, so they could have let that define them, and in some ways, it had to. But they didn't want their children to live their experience. They deserve credit. I want nothing from anyone, and I don’t need anyone to feel guilty about anything they weren't even around for. I get that. But if you ever want to make acquaintances with your neighbor, you usually want to understand them or understand the why of them. My great grandfather, not great, great, just great grandfather was a slave, and I'm 50. My grandfather was born in 1902, so you can imagine that world, and I mentioned my parents. This uncomfortable world isn't very far removed from mine, which is very different, thankfully, but not far at all. What I want those who are tired of this type of cinema, yet have never taken the opportunity to truly understand it to know is this: I was lucky to have the parents I had, but if I hadn't, and you heard their stories, you'd understand why I was the way I was. You learn from your parents, and not everyone turns the other cheek. Hell, I don't. (Working on it) But if you haven't truly done a deep, uncomfortable and painful dive, you should. If we want to build bridges, we need to understand the terrain on the other side. Once you've done it, you'll never have to do it again, but you'll be better for it.
Everyone's ancestry is tainted with suffering. The Holocaust was 80 years more recent than American slavery. My grandfather's two brothers and their families were murdered in a genocide perpetrated by the Turks in 1922. This is going to sound harsh, but you're not special and the suffering of your family is not unique. If we all clung to our outrage over historic injuries done to our families, we'd never stop hating each other and doing fresh injuries down through every generation yet to come. Be kind to the people your life brings you into contact with. That's all any of us can do and the only solace any of us will ever receive.
@familycorvette I never said I or anyone else was special. Do you think that any of that should be washed away and forgotten? What you just told me helps me understand you just a bit better. You read what I wrote and took that (it seems) as my story was more important than yours. Should any of it be forgotten? And what happens to those who forget history? Worst yet, what happens if we don't even attempt to teach the lessons of the past? Pretend nothing has happened and see what comes next. It's about remembering and learning, not wallowing.
@@blackcat513358 You wrote "I was lucky to have the parents I had, but if I hadn't, and you heard their stories, you'd understand why I was the way I was. You learn from your parents, and not everyone turns the other cheek." That suggests that those whose ancestors were slaves have suffered an offense to which they would respond with resentment, i.e., not turn the other cheek. First, those who caused suffering to your ancestors committed no offense against you, so to whom would you fail to "turn the other cheek"? Second, having oppressed ancestors is an almost universal experience, especially in America, to which people fled to escape oppression. What are the lessons of the past? Slavery continues to this day. The cobalt used in cell phones and computers and EVs is mined with slave labor in Congo, many of the slaves children. I agree with James Joyce - “History is a nightmare from which I am trying to awake." Yet we keep returning to the past like a dog returning to his vomit.
@familycorvette I'll keep this simple. My point was that the effects of slavery were felt by my parents, and since they raised me, they could easily passed on resentment to me. Have you ever been told where to sit, where you could eat, and what food to drink? It's a little different. And since all parents are human, they are imperfect, and things get handed down without a thought. My team had chicken bones thrown at us before a game and were called all manner of ugly things. In the 90s. Had friends I'd known most of my life tell me I was one of the good ones. Still, I hold no grudges. The good thing about learning about these things in school and one class in college is, you don't have to watch any movies on the subject but to make a big deal because a movie is made seems suspect. You took the class, skip the movie.
@@blackcat513358 You're still essentially saying that somehow something that affected your grandparents made them resentful and you're still keeping that resentment alive. You cling to the history..because you think makes you special. That you're this noble sufferer. The kids currently mining the cobalt or the ones that assembled your iPhone, wish they had the time you have spent b*tching, paragraph after paragraph, about what a poor martyr you are.
I'm done with slave narratives. I think we've gotten all we can get from them and it's time to move on. Hell, people are calling for America to let 9/11 go. Will Smith starring in it is just his team trying to get back into people's good graces after the Oscar incident.
You can't keep saying that you would rather "see this story in a documentary." We don't know anything about the guy in the photograph besides his injuries. The story in the movie was all fabricated. There is no information to make a documentary on.
It may be a great and worthy film, but releasing it right now, when nobody can shut up about racism and the Pres is talking about an epidemic of white supremacy, feels unproductive if not irresponsible.
Watched this two nights ago so it’s coincidental your review came out today. Hard to watch, but very powerful. I loved this film for what it was. Such a shame because im under the impression Will Smith would FOR SURE at least get a nomination for this performance.
There is a LOT more to our story than slavery. It's almost as if someone wants us to feel like victims at every turn.
Thomas Sowel's life story would be a hell of a film.
As would Frederick Douglas's, or Garrett Morris or George Washington Carver, or Red Foxx, and so on ad infinitum.
Thomas Sowell is great
Sowell grew up in Harlem, tried out for the Dodgers, joined the marines, graduated from Harvard, has written over a dozen books and is genuinely brilliant.
T.S. different and the best of us.
Frederick Douglass never dropped an album
There's that one guy who reached out to and changed the minds of members of the Klan!
I'm flaking on his name though.
Jada completely destroyed Will Smith, it was even more apparent following the infamous slap, how she used him to elevate herself as a victim. She is one of the most horrible people in Hollywood, as long as Will will stay with her, he's never going to get better. She's more than toxic, she's a succubus tearing at his soul!
So what you are saying is this is Emasculation and not Emancipation Big Willie? If what you say is true, then relationship slavery is a real thing.
I try not to be too hard on Will because when he finally says enough is enough and dumps her ass, the divorce is going to make Amber Turd look like mary sunshine and he's going to need all the support he can get.
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That horrid and repulsive woman has ruined his entire life regardless of what he does now. She's already humiliated , embarrassed , emasculated and degraded him. Will Smith used to be a leading man and I enjoyed his movies because he came across as a mans man , a wise cracking, witty and strong man who can handle himself. Now I and many others just see him as a cuck, beta simp who is weak and ruled by a vile and vindictive woman and its tarnished all his other movie roles. The difference is and I myself am sort of guilty of this is we don't see him as the victim or a survivor and its clear she's mentally and emotionally torturing the poor guy but because he's Male theres all the stigma that he can't be a victim when he is. Lets say if he decides he's had enough and decides to divorce her imagine how much of his money she will take and she wont miss an opportunity to not be in the limelight so she'll drag it out for as long and publicly as she possibly can. I'm not a detective or a psychic or anything but I always knew something about Jada was off, there was just something about her that brought up red flags to me. She's done all the damage now and all the radical feminists will be cheering her on about how strong, empowered, stunning and brave she is and how she's shattered the glass ceiling and the patriarchy when the cold reality is she's a disgusting pig that nobody should aspire to be like
@@laurarules3642 That's was quite the reply but HOLY SHIT did you hit the nail flawlessly! Couldn't have said it better!
Thank you for putting into words what I literally feel about this entire situation, I speak mainly French so it's harder to translate such deep thoughts!
Will Smith: "My career tanked because I assaulted Chris Rock. Time to play the Ace up my sleeve - my race card. It's bullet proof; anyone who criticizes it will magically become a racist in the eyes of all others. _Emancipation_ ? What's this script my agent says...?"
Movie was in post production when the slap happened.
@@IMDABROWN True and good point. Makes his assault even worse. Thank you.
@@RodCornholio He was a super idiot for that slap.
@@RodCornholio The man lost it. Hardly the worst thing to happen when someone has lost control. Not saying you should forgive him (I don't know why you would need to seeing as how he didn't slap YOU) but give it a rest at least. Maybe Will and Antoine wanted to tell this story for years. I mean we are getting a movie about Oppenheimer this year. Will you be posting about you can't criticize that one out of fear of being called antisemitic??? Not everything is attached to the culture war. Black people exist, get over it. This is from someone who is antiwoke but you people who see it where it isn't are just as insufferable.
The film was already made. If anything Smith killed any chance of the film being successful.
I agree that this movie should've been a documentary. In this day and age of activism, social bullying/shaming, and a sad resurgence of racism (particularly from the left), the degree of embellishment in these types of stories make it far too easy to brush this story off as an exaggeration of the truth for the sake of a current-day message.
I've never heard of this Peter, nor about the picture. That's something worth learning about and worth learning it right. Screw the message. Give me the facts. Honor this man's legacy by letting today's world know the most researched and verified truth about him and his impact.
Will Smith's career... RIP
Welcome to Reality
You misspelled Will Simp
The movie is good. it was well done, well shot and well acted.
R.I.P, rest in peace? No justice no peace.
@@cre8iveone699 to the people saying will smith career is death that no the cause he isn't cancelled broken blackbag or blacklisted Hollywood
My recommendation for Will Smith: do smaller, indie films for a few years, not big "Important" message movies.
The best Will Smith movie I've seen -- that wasn't a comedy or action movie -- was "Six Degrees of Separation".
He needs to get rid of that awful wife before people take him seriously again
Slave movies are becoming as trope as holocaust movies. Hollywood just loves 'em.
And they’re both easy to do badly. Documentaries, in my opinion, work better for both subjects.
They're basically snuff movies at this point.
I think this is a very accurate allegory movie for Will's life if he is seeking help to leave that toxic marriage.
I've never seen anything from Smith that makes me think he's a good dramatic actor. He's a charming guy and great in roles with a comedic bent, but that's his lane. It feels like 15 years ago he got self-conscious about it, and now he's fighting as hard as he can to be seen as legitimate.
I agree. I get that he wants to be taken seriously as an actor, but these roles don't suit him. People went to his movies because they liked Will Smith. He was a charisma actor. Unfortunately he seems to have lost that too.
There's a certain facial expression Will Smith uses for really important, dramatic roles like this. Has anyone ever noticed that?
When he juts his jaw out and his lips quiver?
I was just thinking that! He first demonstrated it on the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.
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Yes! That!
He has his own "Blue Steel" look. 😂
@@RolandDeschain1 Mostly the jaw thing, yeah.
The movie we need: Another movie about the horrors of slavery. People are evil; the 20th Century proved it. The 21st century continues to prove it.
Incorrect, overall the 20th Century was a great century, even with all the horrible things like the two world wars, nazis and the holocaust, and communist terror. Overall living standards got a lot better for a hell of a lot of people worldwide, people got older, got more free, emancipated; medical breakthroughs that bettered so many people's lives. Billions of people. It's unpresidented how over the course of the 20th century things changed for the better overall compared to previous centuries.
At least it was portrayed by a real slave this time
Jada be crackin that whip again so our boy gotta get some $$$ for that new house renovation
I watch no movie that tells me I’m racist if I don’t see it.
At some point in the movie does Will Smith say “take my wife’s name out chore fucking mouth“?
Now playing on Apple TV+
It might as well be playing on the moon TBH
Along with Paramount+ and Lionsgate. 🙄
I greatly prefer documentaries for subjects like this, because with a normal film there's always a question of what, exactly, is historically accurate, and more importantly, what, exactly, has been added for the sake of entertainment or narrative. In other words, I always wonder if there isn't an exploitative element, no matter how earnest the filmmakers.
Will Smith had a way to get out from under the whole slap thing. All he had to do was follow Robert Downey Jr's example. Own up to what he did and take the punishment for it. It would have been uncomfortable. He might have had to spend a little time in jail. It wouldn't have been much and it probably would have just been time served while waiting for trial. Then it would have been over. He could have moved on like Robert Downey Jr did after he had served his time and was released. Instead, he dodged any kind of accountability even though he committed a crime on camera in front of a huge crowd. He committed a crime in front of the whole world and walked away scot-free. People are going to remember that for as long as he is in the public eye. He is never going to be able to move on.
The slap was atrocious and wrong but when you think of why the slap happened and the story behind it with Jada it just makes the whole situation a million times more humiliating . At least RDJ could say he was out of his mind on drugs and alcohol ,it still doesn't make a crime right because you're under the influence but people can say Ok I understand that. With Will and the slap you have got to understand his back story that Jada was cheating on him , controlling him, dominating him and humiliating him and it makes Will look kinda weak and pathetic. And people will also remember all that for the rest of his life when the slap is brought up. Johnny Depp handled it right because he got the hell away from the toxic and disgusting Amber Heard and fought her but Will just seems weak and pitiful and has made no attempt to leave. He might be the victim of her terrible mental and emotional abuse but he's not trying to help himself and is content to stay with a horrible POS like her
Just give me an absolutely incredible epic historical piece about the Harlem Hellfighters already.
I like Alan. I think everyone does. He seems like a cool guy to be around
I LOVE watching you guys and listening to your reviews. Thank you for all your content. That being said, I completely disagree about the “way” this was filmed….I hated the “saturated” choice. I wanted color. And it was really hard supporting WS….too soon for me. Thanks for your videos.
The British had already abolished slavery in their part of the world long before this photo had come out. Public opinion of slavery had already turned against the practice long before the Americans decided against it. It was the Europeans and their colonies putting pressure on America to end their purchase of slaves, that and the British had ended a lot of the slave markets in Africa.
It’s a bit more complicated than we can discuss on UA-cam.
The US had banned the importation of slaves in 1808 after the passage of the Act Prohibiting Importation of Slaves in 1807.
Great Britain prohibited slavery in GB alone in the reign of Elizabeth I @ 1600 but allowed the slave trade in its colonies. Great Britain passed the Act to Abolish the TransAtlantic Slave Trade in 1807, same as the US. GB’s Slavery Abolition Act in 1807 passed in 1834. And some colonies were exempt. And Caribbean slaves had to work off debt and were not fully freed until 1838.
Factories in GB depended on US cotton and they knew it was a slave based commodity.
There was a significant faction in GB that wanted to recognize the Confederacy.
Only by The Emancipation Proclamation was the US able to end that threat.
Another interesting point is that if the Mexican rebellion had not defeated the French, Mexico and France were moving towards recognizing and aiding the Confederacy. It’s why we celebrate Cinco de Mayo.
Will Smith being tortured for 1 1/2 hours.
I'M IN!
Mid. Couldn’t be more average. A pandering and obvious movie. Two stars
Give me 'Big Sam' from Gone With The Wind over Will Smith posturing any day, and yes, i would rather watch a good documentary about Peter than this movie. There are actual recordings on youtube of real slaves and they are so interesting.
Those guys speak for most of the American movie 🍿 ticket buyer$.
You mean the people who guaranteed 8 Transformers films?
Thank you, modern mainstream film/series writers/actors/directors/producers for continuing to do boring, preachy films. I don't have to waste money to go to the cinema or subscribe to Noflix and others.
It gives me a plethora of time to watch films that were made long before this crapfest time, films I haven't watched yet. Not to mention catching up on not-yet-listened music. This combined will take a lifetime of quality entertainment enjoyment.
5:30 Just don't let Ken 'king of white guilt' Burns make the doc, he'd just try to make it a BLM tie in.
He's the only guy in the world that can make a sports documentary boring
Will Smith abused in horrific ways by his captors.
That's Hollywood for you!
O, you mean the film.
Hollywood? And here i thought they were talking about his wife and children.
The North also still had slaves at the time.....I would highly recommend Rageaholic's Abraham Lincoln on a lot of historical misconceptions and narratives of the Civil War. Something like Judas and the Black Messiah is a much needed story that needs to be talked about as well but those is power don't want us talking about it.
Yes most documentaries are way better than the fictional recreations ESPECIALLY BIOPICS 😝
😅Worst of both worlds is a documentary with actors recreating what happened. Almost always a hard cringe.
in the movie, how long does will smith wait before he begins slapping Massa about?
After cocktails & dinner, but before the attendees' gift packages are handed-out. ;-)
"KEEP MY WIFE'S WHIP OUT OF YOUR M*THERF*CKING HAND"
I'd love to see a good documentary and film about Robert Smalls. Fascinating man.
I seem to remember that the TV series War and Remembrance also showed full frontal on US network TV, long before Shindler's List. Incidentally the scenes were also from the Holocaust.
I think will was used as a ploy due to bad globe ratings an artist loved by all more than likely to bounce back from a mistake especially since he's a minority they thought people would show mercy but it back fired
Do you think Chris Rock was in on it, or do you think he was caught off guard?
If it was planned out they would have chosen a justifiably offensive joke. No way he obliterated his career and reputation for award show ratings, why would he care?
Hi Chris, Britain outlawed slavery in 1833 and was the first country in the world to do so.
After what atrocities committed? You conveniently forgot britain was the largest colonizer on planet earth. You white people are amazing how you white wash history.
...and lost thousands of sailors at sea fighting to end slavery around Africa
Dante has a good point.
They're right, Apple shouldn't have released this now, they should have waited. I just naturally assumed even I first heard of this film that Smith had taken it as a nakedly transparent attempt to clean up Smith's image, or at the very least change the conversation about him. I was surprised that it had already been filmed. It really must be bad if critics felt like they could give it bad reviews.
I agree. I wish there were movies about the incredible achievements black people have made all through history. It's important to know the evilness of slavery but also important to know the stories of all.the people who rose up past, present and future pride.
I'm just sad about hate crimes against Asians. Whomever might be committing these acts, shame on you. I can't imagine the perpetrators using the suffering of their ancient ancestors to justify horrific racist crimes today.
He threw it all away for an evil woman.
Am I the only one who thinks the poster makes it look like Will Smith is playing a black Abraham Lincoln in the movie?
I thought you where actually going to talk about actual emancipation not a movie about what Wills wife did to him 🤣🙄
‘This movie is made to win Oscars’
Future me: heh
I'm with Dante. / "I'd rather watch Harry and Meghan" OUCH!!
The movie sounds pretty interesting with the switch from escape to a Saving Private Ryan style story. I also wonder how well they handle the religious aspect. Still I’m in agreement with Dante here. Tell other black stories! There’s more to our history than just this! Heck you don’t even have to just do American blacks!
ABC showed full nudity when they aired ‘Roots’ and ‘The Holocaust’ miniseries back in the ‘70’s.
Shoulda cast Denzel.
Now that woulda been an Oscar.
hrmmm Prep myself ya say .... nah Challenge accepted got it qued to play righ after this . thats all the prep ill do , I love the Reviews thanks Film Threat . Ben Foster as a Bad guy is scary tbh I dont know what it is about him but he always Plays one hell of a scary Bad guy
Will Smith makes me reconsider why I bother supporting celebrities at all. Actors help who exactly?
Those neck and wrist shackles on Smith may as well have Jada’s name engraved on them 😂
I wanted to like it, but as a historian of the civil war in Louisiana, there were too many inaccuracies. The treatment of the slaves by the Confederate Army as portrayed by the filmmakers would not have had occurred since the slave owners would never allowed their “property” and “investments” to be discarded that way.
I did not like the color saturation and the ending and even the famous photo felt tacked on to an escape film.
The movie comes across as "Oscar Bait" and out of date messaging. If you want to beat someone over the head with the topic, tell a story about the failures of Reconstruction. These stories need to be told, but push the story too hard and you lose even a sympathetic audience.
As far as the audience is concerned, we have been flooded for so long with movies that are angry, dark and meant to lecture us. We need something uplifting again. Just look at the Superman/Henry Cavill situation. Audiences are begging for an aspirational hero again and we aren't getting it.
Couldn't make it through Precious or Twelve Years a Slave...or Marley and Me...but Twelve Years was immediately like being hit with a sledgehammer of 'this is obviously bad, do you get it? DO YOU?' Yes, yes I do, leave me alone now. But I thoroughly agree that the documentary would be a deeper experience.
I'm involved in dog and cat rescue. It can be very rewarding but I also get exposed to some really sick shit and unfortunately have a good understanding of how cruel humans can be. Would I want to watch a movie about some of the stuff I've seen or heard about? Hell no. I get enough depressing stuff in real life. I prefer happy or empowering stories.
If this was made 20 years ago id watch this show no doubt.
A few years ago Michael B Jordans name was attached to `Liberators` chronicaling the exploits of the Black Panther tank unit that served in World War 2.....its such a compelling story.........Similiar in some respects to the story of Red Tails, produced by George Lucas but with so much more to it. I really hope this movie eventually sees the light of day.
this and the Women king should be watched back to back
i love you man.
Thanks for the review. I'll watch Glory instead
It's not playing in theaters? Oh well, I'm very iffy on slavery films. I liked 12 Years, really loved Django and watched Underground Railroad because I'm a fan of Barry Jenkins. This however like the Tragedy of Macbeth wasn't playing in my state at all. It's funny because if I'm correct, Will Smith turned down Django Unchained....
This movie is not going to get the tracking they are hoping for largely because of the bifurcation of the steering landscape. If I had most or all of the service subscriptions my monthly bill would be about the same as the cable bill we rejected.
Where was I hearing good things about this movie? It looked like from early screenings that this was a redemption for Will Smith
I thought Will Smith was playing Black Lincoln?
To what extent does another film of this kind enrich the film landscape or lead to an increase of insight? Movies of this kind, which show the abysses of slavery and racism, have been more than enough in recent years, haven't they? Besides, films like "The Birth of a Nation" or "12 Years a Slave" always have something of a torture p***o in my humble opinion.
Instead of another movie like this, I would rather have more movies like "Get Out" or "BlacKkKlansman" that dare to do something new and interesting. That make you think instead of just shocking and make you feel miserable.
It was painful😢 but its America's sin of slavery. However the movie does inspire
I agree with Dante
It isn't just the "personal life" baggage that made this attempt fail... it's that combined with the vehicle that he chose. Selling the "black oppression" narrative is usually a pretty safe bet in this day & age... maybe not as a huge money maker... but at least from a critical standpoint.
As convoluted & manipulative as those stories usually are... having a guy use that specific vehicle to get past the obstacles that he created himself might be "a bridge to far" for most folks.
I’m sorry, now whenever I see Will Smith all I can think of is the SLAP heard around the world. I’ve lost my interest in watching his movies.
the slave peter got those scars after trying to kill his wife. they punished him.
I usually keep my mouth shut on topics like this, but I've read a couple of comments, and I just want to give people a different perspective. I was raised to accept everyone on their own merits (my parents were real progressives, not what we have today). They grew up during Jim Crow, '37 and '43, so they could have let that define them, and in some ways, it had to. But they didn't want their children to live their experience. They deserve credit.
I want nothing from anyone, and I don’t need anyone to feel guilty about anything they weren't even around for. I get that. But if you ever want to make acquaintances with your neighbor, you usually want to understand them or understand the why of them.
My great grandfather, not great, great, just great grandfather was a slave, and I'm 50. My grandfather was born in 1902, so you can imagine that world, and I mentioned my parents.
This uncomfortable world isn't very far removed from mine, which is very different, thankfully, but not far at all. What I want those who are tired of this type of cinema, yet have never taken the opportunity to truly understand it to know is this: I was lucky to have the parents I had, but if I hadn't, and you heard their stories, you'd understand why I was the way I was. You learn from your parents, and not everyone turns the other cheek. Hell, I don't. (Working on it) But if you haven't truly done a deep, uncomfortable and painful dive, you should. If we want to build bridges, we need to understand the terrain on the other side. Once you've done it, you'll never have to do it again, but you'll be better for it.
Everyone's ancestry is tainted with suffering. The Holocaust was 80 years more recent than American slavery. My grandfather's two brothers and their families were murdered in a genocide perpetrated by the Turks in 1922. This is going to sound harsh, but you're not special and the suffering of your family is not unique. If we all clung to our outrage over historic injuries done to our families, we'd never stop hating each other and doing fresh injuries down through every generation yet to come. Be kind to the people your life brings you into contact with. That's all any of us can do and the only solace any of us will ever receive.
@familycorvette I never said I or anyone else was special. Do you think that any of that should be washed away and forgotten? What you just told me helps me understand you just a bit better. You read what I wrote and took that (it seems) as my story was more important than yours. Should any of it be forgotten? And what happens to those who forget history? Worst yet, what happens if we don't even attempt to teach the lessons of the past? Pretend nothing has happened and see what comes next. It's about remembering and learning, not wallowing.
@@blackcat513358 You wrote "I was lucky to have the parents I had, but if I hadn't, and you heard their stories, you'd understand why I was the way I was. You learn from your parents, and not everyone turns the other cheek." That suggests that those whose ancestors were slaves have suffered an offense to which they would respond with resentment, i.e., not turn the other cheek. First, those who caused suffering to your ancestors committed no offense against you, so to whom would you fail to "turn the other cheek"? Second, having oppressed ancestors is an almost universal experience, especially in America, to which people fled to escape oppression. What are the lessons of the past? Slavery continues to this day. The cobalt used in cell phones and computers and EVs is mined with slave labor in Congo, many of the slaves children. I agree with James Joyce - “History is a nightmare from which I am trying to awake." Yet we keep returning to the past like a dog returning to his vomit.
@familycorvette I'll keep this simple. My point was that the effects of slavery were felt by my parents, and since they raised me, they could easily passed on resentment to me. Have you ever been told where to sit, where you could eat, and what food to drink? It's a little different. And since all parents are human, they are imperfect, and things get handed down without a thought. My team had chicken bones thrown at us before a game and were called all manner of ugly things. In the 90s. Had friends I'd known most of my life tell me I was one of the good ones. Still, I hold no grudges. The good thing about learning about these things in school and one class in college is, you don't have to watch any movies on the subject but to make a big deal because a movie is made seems suspect. You took the class, skip the movie.
@@blackcat513358 You're still essentially saying that somehow something that affected your grandparents made them resentful and you're still keeping that resentment alive.
You cling to the history..because you think makes you special. That you're this noble sufferer.
The kids currently mining the cobalt or the ones that assembled your iPhone, wish they had the time you have spent b*tching, paragraph after paragraph, about what a poor martyr you are.
Will should slap someone good this time. Someone from the crew on camera.
Will is still mad he didn't take Django...
Now there’s a film I will not be watching!
4:16 I am very tired of slave movies also, and I’m a 2nd generation American of Latino decent.
a Slappy White biopic woulda been better
Best movie to watch about slavery is Lincoln.
I'm done with slave narratives. I think we've gotten all we can get from them and it's time to move on. Hell, people are calling for America to let 9/11 go. Will Smith starring in it is just his team trying to get back into people's good graces after the Oscar incident.
I disagree. I don't think anyone's ever made the definitive film about the Arabs having invented the African slave trade.
People haven't let JFK go. Why should we let go of 9/11?
Any plans for.... Sardar udham.....????
You can't keep saying that you would rather "see this story in a documentary." We don't know anything about the guy in the photograph besides his injuries. The story in the movie was all fabricated.
There is no information to make a documentary on.
Seems like a black passion of the Christ
Regarding photograph - "Research Hypertrophic Scarring and Keloids."
I have no interest in ever seeing another film or series about American slavery
It may be a great and worthy film, but releasing it right now, when nobody can shut up about racism and the Pres is talking about an epidemic of white supremacy, feels unproductive if not irresponsible.
Rhymes with soon...
Slavery's baaad, 'mmmmkay...
Watched this two nights ago so it’s coincidental your review came out today. Hard to watch, but very powerful. I loved this film for what it was. Such a shame because im under the impression Will Smith would FOR SURE at least get a nomination for this performance.
Shocked by the comments. People will love watching a Revolutionary war, WWI or WWII movies. But slavery brings the worst out of everyone.
Will Smith? Hard pass.
Some people would pay thousands for that back tattoo!
To soon?
Spoiler alert
Smith was never good for this role anyway..
I liked the film.
This movie is not about slavery, it is analogous for Will Smith's marriage to Jada
When will Ben Foster become a Star?