Jeep Cherokee Odometer Correction/Reprogram for Cluster Replacement::
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This video shows the process for replacing a Jeep Cherokee instrument cluster / gauge cluster and correcting the mileage.
This process can also be used for upgrading from the idiot light cluster to the full gauges. This procedure applies to all 1997-2001 Jeep Cherokees (XJ).
This procedure should also apply to 1997-2001 Jeep TJ Wranglers.
This WILL NOT work for
1999-2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee WJ
2002-2007 Jeep Liberty KJ
2002-2006 Jeep Wrangler TJ
This procedure may work for 2007+ Jeep Wrangler JK.
Just updated an idiot lite Jeep to full gauges, and kept the original miles. the hardest part was downloading software for the programmer. thanks for the inspiration.
So excited to see someone finally made a straight to the point video. Thank you! I am going the solder route today.
did this work for you ?
i dont want to risk messing up my newer cluster that i bought. i found one with almost the same amount of miles, but the new one says 6k less than my original and i would like for it to be correct (i will never sell this jeep that i built, just want it to be correct)
i had a broken gauge cluster that just had dummy lights and switched it out for a non-broken gauge cluster with all of the little gauges.
Thank you so much for this, I've been trying to upgrade the dummy light cluster in my 99 cherokee for so long now but had no idea how to transfer the mileage
Jimmy265431 Yup! This is exactly what you needed to know to upgrade, glad someone found it useful! Good luck with your upgrade.
Awesome info, I don’t need any of it, just trolling through! Great info 👍! There’s a lot of information you give that is very useful! Oh and by the way I could hear you very clearly, Im not sure why other comments say you can’t be heard! I had no problem listening! I don’t need the information but I’m curious, and you did very well explaining how it works!! Good job!!
So, what all exactly did you use for programming it, and where did you source it all? Is there a kit? I've found some parts online, like the SOIC-8 connector and the TL866 module, but what about the adaptor? And what program did you use, and where can I find it?
It's a good video but my main complaint is the lack of consideration for people (like me) who don't know anything about programming. To someone who already knows what all of this is, this video would be a nice guide. To someone who doesn't know how to program (For example, pretty much anyone who wants to swap a gauge cluster in an XJ) it's a little confusing. Can I manually type in the mileage without needing to extract that data from the old cluster? If so, how do I do that with only 4 digits? Can I manually enter a VIN? Is the program you used even still available? Do I need an account/ membership to use it? What kinds of other programs might I be able to use instead?
Thanks for this though, I was getting nowhere until I found this video.
Very old video I just found while researching a way to reprogram a new cluster I plan on getting. How can I contact you directly as I seen you reply to someone to email you and that you can reprogram the cluster. Thank you for this video!
hands down best video I have found on youtube showing how to do without soldering... THANK YOU! 2 questions... 1-if you cant copy/clone and replace info, how can you actually TYPE in the correct miles onto the good cluster/ eprom…(plus it might be quicker that way, just having to get the clip attached to one eprom?). 2- I saw the stuff you were using and looked them up, the computer program however,, what is it? where do you get it? cost? thanks again for a very well thought out informative video!
You can change the values and then upload. The eeprom file is a hex file that can be edited with any hex editor, you can replace the values with whatever they need to be to match the vehicle. If for some reason the cluster could not be read but the mileage was still known, such as reading the odometer value stored in the PCM, the cluster can be programmed to that value, within a few dozen miles or so.
The eeprom doesn't get written for the last few digits and they seem to be stored in some sort of flash memory, so only the higher digits are stored, meaning you wont get exactly the miles you want to program, but can get pretty close.
Would you reprogram these for a fee? I am looking to upgrade my dummy gauges...
Hey, Nicely done. Tho I don't need this for mine. My issue is the dash lights for thee instrument panel are not working. Have to change the bulbs I suppose first. I could not find anyone doing this replacement for the "1995" Jeep Cherokee Sport SUV. Reminds me of my 91 Toyota 4 Runner where nobody shared how to replace the Rear Window Relay Switch-Box, which was located in the rear driver's-side 1/4 panel.
When I checked with Auto Repair places, they all said "It's an Auto-Electrical issue, take it to them." So I asked them and guess how much to replace it?
Just under...... (are you sitting down?) 600$ labor and 575$ for the part. Which pissed me off. So what did I do?
I did like I always to...
I searched world wide to find a used replacement... which I did for (Drum roll please....... 45$, yes, forty-fibe dollars) 1st savings = over 500$.
Secondly, labor time.. what to do? Now mind you, my rear widow was LOCKED or FROZEN UP, because the relay was dead. This made the challenge to get AT IT TO REPLACE even more of a challenge. But would I be defeated or intimidated?
HELL NO... that's not how "I" work. I'm the non-typical CAN DO guy. I ALWAYS CAN... even if I've never done so before. I WILL figure it out, and this particular time, at over a GRAND to replace it, it was worthy of my greatest efforts. Had NO CLUE what I was getting myself into, but I'M GOING FOR IT!... You WON;T BELIEVE THEE END RESULT.... but here we go...
I lowered my back seats to lying down. Put in some cardboard to put everything including myself onto. Loaded in my tools that I thought I might need, took a huge breath and set myself into GIT ERR DUNNNN MODE... climbed in and .....
I figured out HOW TO DO IT. Even with the rear window LOCKED IN UP POSITION or CLOSED.
Once I was able to locate the little bugger or culprit, I was ECSTATIC! I replaced it as fast as I could... anxious to see my window working again. (I'm like a little kid that way... excited to take up such challenges and WIN or SOLVE them! Woooo whoooo!!!) Sorry for that outburst. Back to the story...
After locating it and replacing it, it was time to see if it worked. A bit nervous now because hey, I got a 600$ part for 45$... what are the chances of this working out REALLY? Was I being scammed? Why sell this damn thing if it was working right? Well, let's face the music and see if it works.
Got in the driver's seat, put the key in thee ignition... heart starting to race... a small prayer came without thought, (Please God... please let this work.) Looking into the rear view mirror... the momement of truth. Turned the key.... the motor fired right up and idling... time to try the back window.... welp.... here goes nothing.... pressed the button to lower the rear window and. . . . . .
The SWEETEST SOUND.... that ZHHHHHHHHHHHH sounds that power-windows make when they are going down or up. I watched in my rear view mirror as the back window... after over a year of not working... smoothly rolled right down to the wide open position. WOOOOOOOOOOO WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH MAN!!!!! Talke about ELATED1 I JUMPED out of the seat and landed on the ground and jumped around, like a Zulu Warrior who'd just won a huge battle and was celebrating his victory! SWEET SUCCESS... I KNEW I COULD DO THIS!!!
ahahah... I went to the back... put the key in to see if it worked there as well. It did! Yay!!!
Jumped back into the driver's seat... tried it several times up and down... not a blip. AWESOME!!!
OMG I was SO HAPPY and wondered... "Why in thee hell didn't I get this done a LONG time ago?" Well, that was because of thee expences I was told I'd have in getting it done--- and... when it came to Auto Electrical, I wasn't kidding myself about it... I'm NO SAVVY with it AT ALL." But I DID THIS... I GOT IT DONE!!! Yahoo!
Now then! Can you imagine how LONG this took me to do? To find it, to replace it, and to put it all back together again afterward?
Are you ready for this?.... You might want to sit down again... cause here we go...
Now remember how much I told you thee Auto-Electrical shops quoted me for Labor to switch it out? $600.00 labor only! They didn't say how many hours, but if it were 100$ per-hour it would have been 6 hours... right? Well, guess what?...
It took me, (being 100% a novice to this task) a total time of UNDER 1 (one) hour to Find, Remove, Replace, Test, and put it all back together.
TAH DAH!!!
Now to figure out the Dash Lights on my 95 Jeep Cherokee Sport... since NOBODY'S SHARING HOW TO DO THIS... IT SHALL BE... ONCE AGAIN.... ALL ME, MYSELF and I. Time to GIT ERRR DUNNNNNN!!!!!!! Heeyawwwwwwwwwww!!!
Ciao everyone, and DON'T BE AFRAID to try and save yourself some money and GIT ERR DUNNN yourselves!!!! It's VERY REWARDING when you do... and if nothing else, you learn to REMOVE thee INTIMIDATION FACTOR because YOU CAN! :--))
Ciao!
I got really excited when I found your video, but I don’t want a clone. I want a complete reset. I spent a few years rebuilding my jeep from front to back. New motor, new transmission, transfercase rebuild and even the differentials. I would really like the odometer to be zero. Could care less about odometer fraud, as I’ll never sell the jeep.
FYI the latest TL866A/CS firmware will "brick" your programmer if it is a copied clone of the "mini pro."
Some on the forums have said it bricked their original even. Evidently the manufacturer has a warning on it's website and shows the difference between both clone vs original.
They discontinued the old version and the Newest is the XGecu T56 Universal and TL866II Plus high speed models.
I wish I understood what you were saying. My 2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport has issues with the part. I can get a used one from Canada and may I ask who could reprogram it using this video for me? Would a computer repair person be best?? I am not focused enough to try to follow it now.
@racheldillemuth7584 ,
it has to do with "firmware" that is downloaded onto your computer, then loaded onto the "mini pro" device.
All logic chips are "programed" this way to facilitate updates. It beats having a chip "burned" with a program and become "hardware bound" and useless when it becomes outdated.
It is my understanding that 97 98 clusters are not compatible with 99 00 and 01 because the gas light was replaced with the hatch open light therefore the pin outs and wiring is different. Also 99s were the transitional year because the gas light was moved. But the check engine light was still the words and not the engine icon
Is this correct?
@@MattWeaver909 I recently had an 01 XJ with 180k miles on it using a 97xj cluster with 140k Miles on it. Previous owner got duped
@@ProjectDanH Are the years interchangeable without issue? I have an 00 Xj and I just bought a new cluster to replace the dummy lights. I will be swapping the eprom chip to keep the exact milage. The Cluster I bought on ebay still has the "unleaded gas only" mark on it so that is before 99. I am hoping there will be no compatibility issues.
The cluster I ordered has the trunk open light and the Check engine words not image.
@@MattWeaver909 that is a 97 98 cluster.. I can program the correct milage and vin number for you if you'd like
W the oil pressure and temp gauge not working , do you think the check gauge light would still come on if there was an issue?
this is nice to know. but they must have changed it on newer jeeps. a friend has a 2008 and his went bad and bought a new cluster and all he did was hook it up started it. it showed 0 miles but after driving it a few miles turned it off and back on and it jumped back up to 130000 miles. or maybe it was because it was a new cluster not used. thanks i love videos like this.
The XJ Jeep Cherokee ended production in 2001. So whatever 2008 Jeep your friend had is a completely different vehicle. This method only applies to XJ cherokees, the reprogram method is different between grand cherokees, wranglers etc. Even the same year Grand Cherokee vs Cherokee is a different method.
@@IcarusOffroad i thought about that after i posted. but i still like videos like this. so keep up the good work.
@@MadsWorld34 Ha no worries, thanks for watching.
Most all are stored in the BCM modules now.
386K miles! Damn! Thats what I'm talkin about! I too shall surpass 300K miles in my WJ! (at 90k right now) can barely hear you and volume maxed out.
48474? Where’s the rest of that jeep?! I’d be swapping more than the cluster! 😂
2008 Jeep Liberty say ERROR where it should have the mileage. Any word on fixing this?
Thank you
I had the same issue after my battery was disconnected. I took my jeep patriot to the dealership and they couldn't tell me why and tried to blame it on my viper alarm/remote start. I tried everything from unplugging the battery and leaving it overnight, to pressing and holding the button while turning the key over etc etc. Ultimately what fixed my issue was buying a replacement dash cluster off of ebay (used for $40) and replacing the old dash cluster. It now works without "error" but retained the original mileage from the vehicle it was pulled from.
This works! Thanks for the solid info man. Well done
Hey Dan! Great seeing you all over the internet for XJ stuff. I’m assuming you were using or plan on using this method to reprogram one of your seemingly endless supply of police speedos. Did you have any problems going from 100 mph to 120mph?
It's not odometer fraud if you get a new title and check the block that says it's not the original mileage, then the odometer reading doesn't matter.
Have the ezp2019+ programmer and I get all my data, but the mileage does not look like the same reading on the dash
Thank for the video. One question...Do you need power to the cluster?
This is a very informative video! Touched on everything without being a slog of information.
One question though is if there is any information besides the vin and mileage saved on that eprom. I have a 100mph original and I’m swapping in a 120mph police cluster. I don’t want to overwrite any critical info that results in the cluster thinking it’s 100mph and being all out of wack.
Nothing besides vin and mileage.
@@IcarusOffroad would you be able to comment on wether a Mph cluster could be replaced with a kmph cluster and have the kmph cluster reflect converted mileage. 1.6 kms for every mile on the vehicle. So a 100000 mile vehicle rewritten to say 160000kms on the metric cluster.
@@cookingwithjesus my understanding is that if you toss in a KPH cluster into a MPH vehicle that it will display the speed and odo in KPH, and keep counting from the existing mileage. Therefor if a KPH cluster were reprogrammed to the equivalent KMs as the vehicle has in MI, it should pickup and keep working as a KPH cluster and record all the new mileage in KM.
I have also not tried this, but I believe this is how it works.
@@IcarusOffroad I made a video on my solutions I’d found when trying to reprogram a police speedometer
Does this work for a 98 jeep grand cherokee zj
I have a cluster from a 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee and it has a chip 2H5S1 and it also has a a number on it that says H246. I cannot find this chip in the XGecu and my IM508. I wonder what I am missing?
I believe on a 1998 ZJ the mileage is stored in the BCM, not the cluster.
This is interesting, I had to change the BCM in my "98 5.9 GC Now everything works but the odometer is about 93k more than my real mileage. If I decided to change that, I wonder if I should modify the BCM or the cluster? (or have someone do it) ... my other option is to just keep my eye out for another BCM that has close to my mileage.
Yes in the ZJ it seems that the mileage is stored in the BCM. Since the ZJ bcm has a microprocessor it’s likely that there is not a simple eprom chip to read and program. It may be more like programming the newer TJ gauge clusters.
@@IcarusOffroad Thanks a lot for your reply, I'll search around for more info on a
procedure
very low voice I can not hear but I liked the video thanks
Will that Programmer work with an iMac computer… Very informative video thanks for posting it
If you have windows it should work just fine. I doubt it is OSX supported.
@@IcarusOffroad I just sent you an email , hopefully you can help me out….Thank You for your info
@@IcarusOffroad I have a laptop im having trouble finding the right download… could you send me a link to the download….
Thanks
hi, you know why this not work on 2002 to 2006 wrangler? ic5 say a diferent number but look the same, we only need find the brand and model chip or plain not work? thank for this video.
2002 - 2006 TJ Wrangler Gauge Cluster uses a Motorola 68HC12 processor which has a built in eeprom which stores the mileage, VIN and other information. To read the program code or mileage information the CPU must be put into background debug mode, BDM. From BDM you can read and write specific memory registers which contains mileage and VIN. Goodluck, I have not yet figured out what I need to reprogram the mileage and VIN on these clusters. I have a specific tool that performs the function for the TJ Wrangler, but I have not been able to get generic tools to read the eeprom.
COrobotchicken thank for your response. Looks like the only way is buying a digiprog3 tool, i really need solve this, the car was flood and we cant find a dash with the correct or near correct miles.
I just read that twice and I still don't know what you're talking about. The mileage in the PCM has no bearing on the mileage in the cluster. Also the JTEC pcms (2002-2004) don't support BDM and the NGC controllers used in 2005/2006 also don't support BDM. So I don't understand what you're talking about.
As for setting mileage and VIN in the PCM, it's a trivial task that can be done with a DRB 3 over the OBDII port, no need for any sort of "background debugging mode."
I think I can clarify a bit. What I am referring to with background debug mode, or BDM, is for the programming of the 2002+ TJ clusters to correct the mileage and VIN when the cluster has been replaced. To reprogram the mileage and VIN in the cluster the cluster must be removed from the vehicle, and the rear plastic cover removed, and then the BDM pad on the circuit board can be accessed. Then the mileage in the cluster can be reprogrammed with with a DigiProg3 or other tool that can read specific memory register in the Motorola/Freescale/NXP HC12 processor through the BDM port. This is similar, but not the same, to programming through the BDM port on a Bosch ECU.
I am not referring to programming anything in the ECU for the 2002+ TJ.
I need to get a video filmed and uploaded for the VIN programming in the cluster for the the 02+ TJ using a DigiProg.
Yes the Digiprog3 will reprogram the odometer.
Another great tip ta
Great tips
can you correct my milage or do you know of someone that can? the oil gauge didn't work so i got one out of a diy wrecking yard and milage don't match.
Contact me through my profile and I can assist. I don’t post my email address so bots find it.
Do you have link to minipro programmer you used?
I love this option and I want it to work. Quick question on whether I just have chinese junk off of amazon or its user error. When I put the adapter into the programmer and try and read the chip, it gives me a Pin Detect Error and shows me a graphic of the programmer and the location of Pin#1. Adapter is in the correct position. Clip is in the correct position. I've gone through all configurations of adapter/clip location and error happens every single time.
Any hints what this could be? - Thanks
christopher dwyer well there are two ways to orient the clip, but even with a known orientation it can be hard to get good contact.
@@IcarusOffroad Ok thanks - I'll keep trying
Dude - It does take a bunch of tries to get the clip right but it absolutely WORKS. Local Jeep dealer refused and I thought I was stuck just adding 86k in my head every time I looked at the odometer. Thanks again for this.
I know this is an old video, but how did that Jeep hold up at 380k? Any major repairs ? How’s the trans?
The left speaker channel of the radio died recently, so the radio had to be replaced. It’s still out driving around. Maintain your vehicle and change the oil regularly and you get lots of useful life from it
A for effort. But I'm just gonna write myself a note with the previous milage and leave in in the glove box. Lol
Company online wants $140 to ship the 2 clusters and clone the old one onto the new one. Is this worth it or is it cheaper to do it myself, the thing is that my jeep will be down until they ship it back. Any help would be nice, great video btw
Edge-U-Cation it’s certainly cheap to do it yourself if you think it’s within you technical capabilities.
I charge less and can clone it without needing the old one if you supply the information. Contact me through the email in my profile if you are interested.
@@IcarusOffroad couldnt find your email anywhere on your profile
@@edge-u-cation5058 Go here, and look for "For Business Inquires:" ua-cam.com/users/COrobotchickenabout
Are you able to program a cluster for a 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee?
I have not tried but my equipment should support it. Email at my email in my profile.
I went to the “about me” section on your page and a email address is not listed.
How would this be done for a 95 XJ cluster?
NBHRaven the 96 and older XJs use a mechanical speedometer. To adjust this mileage you need to physically adjust the odometer. Generally they are designed to make this hard to prevent tampering. There is nothing you can reprogram to set the mileage in the older Cherokees.
Self* check sorry lol
Ah, there is no self check available on the older clusters. The older clusters are more mechanical, the newer cluster with digital odometer actually has a microprocessor in it that drives all the gauges.
What program did you use to copy the files from one chip to the other?
Clayton Boliski it was just the program my chip programmer came with. If you buy one it should come with software.
Can you rewrite the milage, I just put a new engine in mine and want it to reflect the correct miles
In the United States this would be consistent with odometer fraud, while it is acceptable to replace the cluster and program the correct mileage for the vehicle it is illegal to roll back the odometer to zero. Most people would also point out that even a "rebuilt" engine isn't the same as factory new, and that all the other million small components on your Jeep are not new. There are certain legal and potential ethical/moral ramifications to resetting the cluster to zero so that I cannot recommend you to reset it.
@@IcarusOffroad WRONG! All you have to do is check the block on the title that says "not the original mileage" and you can have a vehicle with ZERO miles when you replace the engine. Why do so many on youtube make this mistake?
@al hardy, the engine is only one part of your drivetrain. Your transmission still has all the mileage on it
I’m gonna roll all mine to zero., Then hero.
Any info on someone I can just take mine to and get it cloned?
I can reprogram or clone these if you are interested, reach out to me in the email in my profile under the "about me"
COrobotchicken I can’t find your email. I’m definitely interested.
COrobotchicken tkfinancial@gmail.com
Do you have any suggestions for 2004 jeep grand cherokee laredo?
Sophia Omatsone this same method will not work for the grand Cherokee WJ. A Digiprog can be used with the WJ Grand Cherokee cluster.
@@IcarusOffroad is the chip the same/similar in the 2004 wj. Is the process the same and is it affected by the instrument cluster not working? Can I just desolder and transfer the chip?
Sophia Omatsone I think the chip is the same between the TJ and the WJ. It may be the same between similar year of clusters. Desoldering the PRocessor May work, but it’s very fine solder work to do. It’s not a large eeprom, it’s a fine microprocessor.
@@IcarusOffroad thank you. I am going to try the desolder method. Hopefully it works.
@@IcarusOffroad just to be sure, there are 5 IC microprocessors(MC) on my board. The only 8-pin MC on my board is IC3. Is there a chance that the MC with the mileage and VIN data is a different MC?
Will this also work on 01 honda civic