WRC VR Beta | Was it WORTH THE WAIT? (Pimax Crystal)
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- Опубліковано 30 кві 2024
- EA Sports WRC has released perhaps the most eagerly awaited update: Version 1.8 introduces VR in beta form, while also implementing numerous small fixes and adjustments.
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#wrc #virtualreality #easportswrc - Ігри
Every racing game needs VR support. Its not even hard to do anymore.
100%
Should be part of the early stages of game development and not an after thought anymore.
Basically, WRC could have been run in VR since release by using the UEVR mod. So yes, basic implementation not hard.
100% agree. Any racing game without VR is DOA to me lol
Support isn't a problem There are 3rd party apps that do that. But performance is a huge turn off.
With 50 fps on average not even the biggest Vignette will safe you from feeling sick :D that is not acceptable, not even in a beta. Stable 90fps or more are needed for most people. thanks for testing and putting your health at risk haha
Definetly going to give it a try on EA Pass... need to take a break from Assetto Corsa. Thanks for covering this. Made me confident in wanting to try it. GG
Tried this is vr already using the unreal injector and it did help my driving but it clearly wasn’t native vr. Hopefully this’ll sort out that hole, or soon anyway (once out of beta). Looking forward to testing this
I've got it working pretty nicely on my Quest 2 / 4070 setup. I'm just actively searching for a little more sharpness ahead of me, out of the car.
How did you make it works? A lot people with Pimax Crystal and Varjo Aero doesnt make it works even disable openxr.
Can confirm, works in Bigscreen Beyond via SteamVR
Hey. Do you have any issues with brightness? I am also on Crystal and I have no issues with other games but WRC has an issue where most details are blown out. Way too bright. If I lower the brightness in the game everything turns super dark but some details are still kinda bright.
No issues with brightness, have you tried to change the Local Dimming Level in the Advanced Settings of Pimax Play? -Michel
My quest3 is also tto bright at some points on different stages... Looks like the same problem they had initially with normal monitors! Its not a specific headset problem!
Same for Rift S 😢 my eyes hurt, turning brightess down makes it kinda worse, we need contrast slider or more image settings in general.
Disable HDR if enabled, sometimes it sticks, headset won't support it and will render everything super washed out.
Can you link or provide steps to adding OpencCmposit? Is it the standard way , or is there a specific openvr_api .dll ? Can you give details in description? Confused.. I'm on a Quest 3 and searching for a guide & settings. (wireless Virtual Desktop) - Vielen Dank
For me (Quest 3) it was very jittery when moving head until I tried Link with Cable. VD and Airlink had shaking objects when moving head a little. 2 days to figure out cable was the solution. But it's still not as smooth when comparing with Dirt Rally 2 on the same system, especially playing Dirt 2 after WRC. Both 90hz and according to Performance monitor stable 90fps.
Looking to trying this combined with motion.!
First the graphics were horrible, but after setting up higher AA, anistropic filtering and activating DLSS it got quite better. Very annoying that I have to change the audio-source in Windows to my Quest 3 and need the motion-controllers for some menu-stuff despite the mouse works, but it's invisible.
DLSS Quality without sharpening also works best for me, but still kinda hungry with a 4080 on full resolution with the Crystal. -Michel
How do I make it VR? I’m using a steam HMD (dpvr E4) and I don’t receive an option to enable VR after launching.
Try lowering your AA setting. I noticed that even dropping the AA from like Epic to High gave me back a LOT of FPS. The game is essentially rendering for 2 screens (each eye) in VR which I am sure you know, so aliasing will be harder to notice anyway.
Hello can not get my vive pro working with eawrc .
Other games works perfect .
Do you have some idee
In what state is the game in general? Any more stutters?
the nr1 thing i missed when jumping into vr in wrc is that you dont get a cursos pointer... very stupid to be forced to use the keyboard to navigate the menus. other than that, yes the visuals are a bit blurry or jagged at the edges at times but all in all good fun tho, now i only need LMU to do the same and come out with VR and i'll be set.
Is TrackIR also supported?
Hi. How on earth did you get this going with Crystal? I’ve tried absolutely everything since 1.8 dropped and not once have I seen the option to use VR in-game.
I’m using oepnXR with DCS, MSFS2020, AMS2 & Dirt Rally 2.0 with no problems at all so OpenComposite, PimaxXR etc is already setup and running.
I’ve tried disabling openXR toolkit but nothing happens.
If I leave the PimaxXR on the Pimax runtime, WRC on Steam will not even launch full-stop.
If I change the runtime over to SteamVR then it’ll launch but ingame I ‘never’ get an option to use VR. I’ve tried with different runtimes in OpenComposite but nothing works.
Is there something we’re all missing as there’s so many Crystal users like myself that just haven’t been able to get it going in VR.
Good question, I did nothing special - disabled OpenXR, switched the toggle in the OpenComposite tool, started SteamVR to then start WRC. Sometimes you have to try 2-3 times, its not perfect yet but works for me for the most part. F9 btw the hotkey for center VR view, hope that helps! -Michel
Hmm. Everything that I’ve done time after time with no luck whatsoever. Thanks for your reply though 😬
Did anyone ever figure out how to make this work? I’m having the same issue of not being able to get the enable VR prompt to show up, while trying to use my 8KX. Have tried Open XR, Pimax XR, Steam VR run times, and disabling Open XR. Nothing works sadly. 😢 Any help would be greatly appreciated. Cheers 🙏
Chew mint gum while driving in VR! It massively reduces motion sickness.
As soon as the gum starts to lose its flavour, swap out for a fresh stick!
Never tried this, I don't normally suffer from motion sickness but might see if it works with friends. Having a fan blowing on you helps a good bit as well.
The best thing is fresh ginger.
Wow, smart!
when i got sick from vr,I take a tea spoon of Ginger Paste. Now i can easily do 60min races on nordschleife in ACC without getting sick at all tho
motion sickness is the best part, i miss when i'd get it occasionally in vr 😮💨
Small adjustment: if you only want to play in VR:
wait until BETA badge is away, *then* buy and refund if it does not work as you expect.
The BETA badge is there for a reason.
No. A beta version has to work. It's not a beta it's a non finished development. Even not an alpha. It's a shame.
@@scanx6163 I agree that in this particular case chances are not good for Codemasters to be able to deliver a good VR experience, for engine issues, whatever - but, in general, one *should* give an manufacturer a chance to deliver a good product.
Just lets hope that they either
a) get that unreal engine to work properly or
b) develop a customized engine again
for their next games.
All very well. But what are the specs of your PC. With my 5800X3D/RTX3080 and Pimax Crystal it runs at about 1 frame every twenty seconds!!!! In PC2, AMS2, AC or any other driving game it is perfect.
RTX4080 5800X3D, I guess we have to wait for some patches. -Michel
@@OverTake_gg Nice video thank you! Just a tip, you might want to always include your specs in teh description even if it is mentioned in the article, or here in comments to avoid repeating questions. Either way thank you for your video! However, i guess that my 5800x3d and 2070 super will probabbly suffer hard until better optimazation
For me on a 3080, 12600k, 32 gigs ddr5 with a rift s. It is blurry as hell, I can't see 20 feet in front of me.
3070 and meta quest 2. It's garbage
They need to make it vr only so they can focus on the vr and not mix it.
Release screen version and a VR only version its the mixing them thats the problem.
Its razy why they dont do this must cost them more time.solving stuff than it would if they didn't have to worry about breaking the screen version.
Danke..
Do VR2 work on it please mate
2:58 550° or did you mean 540°?
540
I wish they would add VR technology to xbox
There hardware power just is not there. Graphic cards costing much more than the entire xbox are still struggling to run this smoothly.
@@Max.44 Yet Sony figured it out
If the vr updates give a two different image remdering to each lense then i could rate it 10/10 for having a 3d dept effects... but if the two lense just have same image rendering then i could just rate it 1/10... . Hmmmm
ok.. no excuse to get the game... Will have an aler to it
Waiting for native triple screen support
Well for me it is always no VR no money so now let me investigate and see what´s what.
Sim racing came to the point where people said the graphics look actually realistic just for vr to come along and ruin the graphics again.
Imagine the image quality and performance from a monitor inside a vr headset. That woukd be dope.
In DR2 in headset I have visuals like on a monitor, in AMS2 also. WRC here is another story, but it shows that the technology is there, just some game engines are not well optimized.
Such a shame it’s nots coming to PSVR2 😭😭😭😭. For GT7 it’s a game changer 🤔
I’ve got a 4090 with Q3 and GT7 VR blows WRC out of the water, night and day.
Oh really 😂? GT7 ? The game with short stages , No damage system , worst physics and Environment that is Way way less compared than WRC ? And it looks better ? What a miracle....
@@Tripokaridos22 yeah crazy and it’s optimized and way better!
worse physics is a crazy statement, other than that I agree
They better make it for psvr2 makes no sense that dirt rally 1 had it on psvr1 but then they didn’t for dirt rally 2.0 like it needs to be made for psvr2
The performance isn't there you need a 4080 to play it on PC.
Come on man. You're disabling OpenXR TOOLKIT, not OpenXR itself. The game is still running in OpenXR. Opencomposite is doing nothing, because the game already runs in OpenXR.
Hey Logan, it could be because of misinformation that is all over the internet that we also fell for. I'd really like to correct that.
Do you have a good source to explain all the implications a bit better? -Michel
@@OverTake_gg Just look at the pages for the individual pieces of software to understand what they do. Like OpenComposite is for getting OpenVR games to run in OpenXR.
OpenComposite makes a log file somewhere that you can check to confirm it's not doing anything with WRC
@@OverTake_gg The corresponding web pages for the two utilities says what they do.
It's just the reddit and discord users that have been misrepresenting what these apps actually do
VR is pointless in this Graphics Engine, Its very Heavy Look terrible and most people will get Angry. They Should've waste their resources on that game. Next game with new Engine and VR from start will be good idea. Even DR 1.0 looks way better on VR .
Agreed. Although if they didn't do vr I would have been pissed. They lose either way because I'm still pissed with how bad this vr implementation/ optimisation is.
Anything lower than 72fps is going to be horrible in VR. you want 90fps++.
unreal engine is just bad for VR in racing games. ACC and this games proved that.
Time to reinstall game
With only about 1.3% of gamers having VR this is a niche that's not surprisingly not getting much resources.
Maybe! Last time we had a poll in our community it was 10% who wanted buy a VR headset as their next purchase for Sim Racing, so it might still be an interesting market to support 👍🏻 -Michel
I would say sim-racing is a niche in itself. Probably a relatively high percentage of simracers have a VR headset.
Compared to all gamers, yes, only a small percentage have a VR headset.
I'll give you a tip, never fkn play VR at 50 fps 😂
yeah I know, but to achieve more than 80, I have to make the game look like its from 2005 or scale down the resolution - at least for the video I wanted it to be a bit better looking. I hope it will be optimized soon! -Michel
But your settings are not realistic then because 50fps is not playable. Tune them for 90fps and show everyone the terrible graphics.
@@thinknn Might be the way to go.. next time! -Michel
This "game" is so much mess. I miss the old days when devs first priority wasnt the money
You're, with all respect, nuts to play this in 50fps. VR needs 90fps LOCKED. WRC has the worst VR ever, that should be the name of this video. Please be honest from the start, it's just absolutely terrible and completely flawed. DR2 was 100 times better.
👍 exactly
This game is the perfect example ofnwhat the results are when a game which isn't built with vr from the start and instead squeezed in at the end. This game is the worst VR SIM game I have played to date. Apart from the game mostly crashing even before you get to the stage. once you get to a stage then you wish it did crash, the graphics are just so bad.
This VR mod is crap. It's a shame for EA and Codemasters.
It's not a beta, it's a non finished dev. Even not an alpha...
thanks for the video you were able to use opxrtoolkit for me with crista it lets me use it only set in safe mode if you use it tell me how you did it thanks
I think dirt 2.0 and EA wrc both sucks! on VR.. il stick to my ultra wide monitors much better
I'm done with VR and selling my Quest 2 and 3. VR is so clunky, shitty and unuser friendly. Total PITA and inefficient to navigate around it's menus, etc. Graphics and sound are rubbish and is no more immersive than a good desktop screen. VR is a bloody gimmick IMHO! Still needs years of developement. Wish I never wasted my money to find out.
hard to believe as i play in VR and the G9 cant compare my VR graphics are insane nothing can compare