From the time I met Floyd Landis at the Tour of Georgia back in 2005 he has matured a lot and is very thoughtful and articulate. This is a really good interview and very honest.
I really appreciate his thoughtfulness about his parents and their faith tradition. He’s been an outsider and deep-thinker since young adolescence, which likely helped him make the leap of faith from doper-in-denial to thoughtful confessor. His folks can and should be prouder than if he had never tested positive for doping!🦋🙏😎 Good character prevailed!
Lance Armstrong just talks in circles and never says anything. These interviews are really interesting, truthful and makes it easy to follow what really went on.
@@Arturo-sm1tb I think Floyd WAS a massive asshole, for denying doping for so long, and one of his team trying to intimidate Greg LeMond against testifying (whether Landis had a hand in that, I don't know). But he has tried to atone by speaking the truth - even if he only initially started telling the truth to get revenge. But he seems genuinely remorseful, unlike others who were found out.
@@robentourage4687 Who is this person who you say is the best racer? The cyclists with the most Tour de France wins are Miguel Indurain, Bernard Hinault, Eddy Merckx, and Jacques Anquetil, with five wins each. I can't find the name you mention among the history books. You must be mistaken, lol. 😂
@0:20 Floyd's unorthodox positioning was a topic of considerable debate in the Time Trial community. Most riders have their forearms completely level, let's say punching through the wind. Some thought that his "hands up" positioning diverted airflow onto turbulent air over the rider's churning legs. No one every really won big in that unique position again but Floyd may have been trading a few hundredths of a point of .Cd for a few watts of power in a uniquely personal benefit... or just positioning his hip to feel better. Fantastic interview, I learned a few things I always wondered about and thank you Floyd!
Armstrong hand picked guys on his team like Floyd Landis & Tyler Hamilton because they had that same hard core attitude which made them mentally strong…..so much so that each of them soon left him to fulfill their own ambitions to lead their own team and seek to win the Tour de France for themselves.
The analogy to war is perfect. The Tour, like war, has that terrifying quality of being an ultimate conflict that plays out over a long time. Helping your side win in either conflict is so important it justifies a lot of personal sacrifice. And in the Tour, like in a war, individual victories are less important than winning the whole thing. You can expend too much potential on a daily win, but doing so could mean losing the war.
NCC1701A I left Perth WA with brand new tires. I got to Brisbane with the threads showing front and back. I got no flat tires for the first 2500miles I got 8 flat tires on the last 1100miles. I got to Brisbane 3 days before my flight out. I stayed at a hostel 20km from airport. So day before my flight I decided to ride to airport to see the route. I got 3 flat tires and decided to take the train to the airport next day. LoL.
Would like to see a Tour in Southern Ontario specially in Mid June with these conditions 1. 35 celcius with 98% humidity 2. Shitty roads from winter ( You would need 3 carbon bikes per stage from road damage) 3. 15-25 Km hr head winds on good days and 25-40 Km head winds in other days 4. 15- 25 km hr cross winds I lived in Europe near the 2000 meter line in the Mountains there is barely any winds in the mountain stages in Southern Europe. No one alive could climb those mountains with 40 km hr head winds. By the way Southern Ontario is all flat land, making it harsh with no descents to save energy.
John Andrews Ontario has some wacky weather 35 celcius one day and 15 celcius the next lmao. Heavy winds and 17 celcius today crappy for cycling unless you are in a big group. My road bikes are 15 kg ( bearer bike) and a 8.9 kg Carbon which is a joke to ride since it’s so light lol. Lived in Europe in the mountains never seen wind like this up at 2000 meters hehehehe.
@@jimgray3346 Lmfao asking Joe Dementia Biden the same question and he supposedly got 10 million more votes than the fist African American president who was elected by White people 2 fucking times lmfao!!’
Cycling, golf, boxing & tennis, you are out there by yourself and if you tweak a muscle, your teammates can't pull you through, you fall behind or get knocked out.
it's funny, everybody (who doesn't know any better) thinks mtb, even bmx, are the gnarly sports because they look 'rad' when in fact road is the overall gnarliest, by a good margin, out of everything. hint why- it comes down to the high speeds, never mind the sheer physical exertion.
both sports are gnarly. I don’t think road racing requires any more courage than BMX or MTB. BMX vert & racing are dangerous. Mat Hoffman has broken more bones than the entire TdF peloton combined. Road racing is more brutal from an endurance and physical conditioning point of view, and the sport has its share of crashes and serious injuries. There are many BMX riders who have sustained serious injuries, more so than road racing athletes.
Every successful pro cyclist has to make this conscious decision Floyd is talking about to no longer care about his physical well being. You have to accept it as part of your life. The moment you feel fear you're done, you are going to get seriously hurt or die or kill someone around you.
@@jmc8728 Hey, just saw your reply and thought I'd chime in. I know this is not the popular answer, but the great percentage of pro's I know raced completely clean their entire careers up until the mid to late 90's, unless they were the very top guys in Europe, and then, only the top teams in Europe were supporting entire teams to dope. If the guys were domestiques, US based, they were mostly clean. All the top guys know who's on the juice. That's a much longer discussion as to how we all knew. Anyway, to answer your question, I was doing 25-30 hours a week completely clean from 1987-1997, I was 25 until I was 35, then cut back a bit each year but still did 20-25 hours clean for the rest of my career. "Hard Miles" was maybe 10-15 hours depending on what you mean by "Hard"... Many of those hard days were Race Days. We had over 100 Race Days a season.
@@jamiepaolinetti5087 I mentioned hard miles here because, at the interview timestamp of 3:20 Floyd stresses 30 hours "hard miles" per week. I would imagine that even pros at that level would be worthless come race day if they are training 30 "hard mile" hours per week, Hence the reason for doping (so they can train harder and recover quicker). From what I understand; They dope for the higher intensity training/recovery benefits that ultimately pay off come race day. Just saying I would have followed up the question at 3:20 and given Floyd's candor in this series of interviews I am sure he would have enlightened us, as have you, in regards to realistic hard miles trained that a natural athlete can endure (just a missed opportunity by the interviewer in this case).
@@jmc8728 Yep. Agreed. He's also talking about preparing for the tour specifically I think. I know Floyd, have both raced and trained with him and all his friends from the time he started, I know he wasn't always doing that kind of intensity. That is one thing Lance, (and Floyd in later years) really changed in cycling. Lance mastered spending an entire year training, doping, and planning for one race, The Tour. Everything else was lead up or follow up.
Unpopular opinion: Cycling needs doping. Obviously it's bad for the riders' health but from a moral view it's either "everyone is doped" or "no one is doped". I didn't even bother to watch cycling for the last few years because it feels like very few are able to compete. Are they doped? I don't know, but it feels to me like the Tour is too difficult to complete successfully if you aren't on some kind of doping. It's a sport... It makes people famous. Lance Armstrong chose fame over his health and became an American hero and an icon. I bet he has no regrets.
being honest about the anxiety of the race and finally dealing with it is the truth..Lance would never talk like this because he is a cut above most humans...he truly is
Peoples different perception is funny, I think he comes across as a stone cold. Terminator like. I wouldn’t like to compete with him. You can tell he’s determined, I meant he did win the tour. The bit where he describes how he decided it’s a war and if he dies he dies to eliminate the fear is chilling. This is a bike race man and he’s accepting death lol
20k miles of racing is way different than 20k of group rides and trips to the cafe. Not to mention these guys climb around 1.5 million vertical feet each year
From the time I met Floyd Landis at the Tour of Georgia back in 2005 he has matured a lot and is very thoughtful and articulate. This is a really good interview and very honest.
Landis is intelligent and well-spoken. I loved this interview!
He really sounds sincere and honest.
I really appreciate his thoughtfulness about his parents and their faith tradition. He’s been an outsider and deep-thinker since young adolescence, which likely helped him make the leap of faith from doper-in-denial to thoughtful confessor. His folks can and should be prouder than if he had never tested positive for doping!🦋🙏😎 Good character prevailed!
Lance Armstrong just talks in circles and never says anything. These interviews are really interesting, truthful and makes it easy to follow what really went on.
Exactly. Floyd is a thoughtful, well adjusted human being. Armstrong is a sociopath full of BS, just like that orange asshole President.
@Shred Father agreed. And the tour is a race, not a Ted Talks speaking engagement. And Lance was the best racer. Period.
@@Arturo-sm1tb I think Floyd WAS a massive asshole, for denying doping for so long, and one of his team trying to intimidate Greg LeMond against testifying (whether Landis had a hand in that, I don't know). But he has tried to atone by speaking the truth - even if he only initially started telling the truth to get revenge. But he seems genuinely remorseful, unlike others who were found out.
@@robentourage4687 Who is this person who you say is the best racer? The cyclists with the most Tour de France wins are Miguel Indurain, Bernard Hinault, Eddy Merckx, and Jacques Anquetil, with five wins each. I can't find the name you mention among the history books. You must be mistaken, lol. 😂
@@dc8890 stick to your revisionist history then. I do agree with your opinion of Landis, though.
Fascinating and insightful interview series.
this guy is one of the best interviewers ever
He is
What excellent insight. Thanks Floyd.
@0:20 Floyd's unorthodox positioning was a topic of considerable debate in the Time Trial community. Most riders have their forearms completely level, let's say punching through the wind. Some thought that his "hands up" positioning diverted airflow onto turbulent air over the rider's churning legs. No one every really won big in that unique position again but Floyd may have been trading a few hundredths of a point of .Cd for a few watts of power in a uniquely personal benefit... or just positioning his hip to feel better.
Fantastic interview, I learned a few things I always wondered about and thank you Floyd!
Check out his pedal/clip position... almost under the arch of his foot, weird...
Well now it’s changed because of ganna
@@DBcycling1 Time trial positions have changed a lot since the years of Floyd, and not just because of ganna.
Armstrong hand picked guys on his team like Floyd Landis & Tyler Hamilton because they had that same hard core attitude which made them mentally strong…..so much so that each of them soon left him to fulfill their own ambitions to lead their own team and seek to win the Tour de France for themselves.
What an intelligent man Landis is.
The analogy to war is perfect. The Tour, like war, has that terrifying quality of being an ultimate conflict that plays out over a long time. Helping your side win in either conflict is so important it justifies a lot of personal sacrifice. And in the Tour, like in a war, individual victories are less important than winning the whole thing. You can expend too much potential on a daily win, but doing so could mean losing the war.
10 guys able to win the Tour in a year. I believe it.
This year only maybe 5
I rode 3600 miles in 58 days across Aussie. No masseuse. No trainer. No coach. No paycheck. No mechanic. No drugs.
Him Bike cool, you must have had a hell of a bike.... and 🦵 legs! 😍
NCC1701A I left Perth WA with brand new tires. I got to Brisbane with the threads showing front and back.
I got no flat tires for the first 2500miles
I got 8 flat tires on the last 1100miles.
I got to Brisbane 3 days before my flight out. I stayed at a hostel 20km from airport. So day before my flight I decided to ride to airport to see the route. I got 3 flat tires and decided to take the train to the airport next day. LoL.
Now thats an athlete.good jov.
@@PInk77W1. You lost me at the end
Great interview
I rode a fondo in New Jersey with Floyd last year he had Velcro shoes they looked like they were from 06
Would like to see a Tour in Southern Ontario specially in Mid June with these conditions
1. 35 celcius with 98% humidity
2. Shitty roads from winter ( You would need 3 carbon bikes per stage from road damage)
3. 15-25 Km hr head winds on good days and 25-40 Km head winds in other days
4. 15- 25 km hr cross winds
I lived in Europe near the 2000 meter line in the Mountains there is barely any winds in the mountain stages
in Southern Europe. No one alive could climb those mountains with 40 km hr head winds.
By the way Southern Ontario is all flat land, making it harsh with no descents to save energy.
Tour du Canada way back 25 years ago was in Ontario in the summer. Fun times.
John Andrews Ontario has some wacky weather 35 celcius one day and 15 celcius the next lmao. Heavy winds and 17 celcius today crappy for cycling unless you are in a big group. My road bikes are 15 kg ( bearer bike) and a 8.9 kg Carbon which is a joke to ride since it’s so light lol. Lived in Europe in the mountains never seen wind like this up at 2000 meters hehehehe.
bro what is wrong with you?
@@jimgray3346 Lmfao asking Joe Dementia Biden the same question and he supposedly got 10 million more votes than the fist African American president who was elected by White people 2 fucking times lmfao!!’
Cycling, golf, boxing & tennis, you are out there by yourself and if you tweak a muscle, your teammates can't pull you through, you fall behind or get knocked out.
Golf?!
Running as well
So much more thoughtful and insightful than most of the meatheads in the pro peloton
Agreed. Can you imagine a similar interview with Cavendish? It would be pretty tough answering these questions with a 100 word vocabulary.
@@XBKLYN Cant stand Cav on any level. Seems more articulate than some of the others but such a whiny and whinging baby.
@@baconlatte let's not forget Cadel Evans although perhaps that might be all for the best 😩
@@XBKLYN You mean not much upstairs?
@@baconlatte Cadel was king of the whiners....he made Cav look gracious and brilliant!
Champion por mí.
it's funny, everybody (who doesn't know any better) thinks mtb, even bmx, are the gnarly sports because they look 'rad' when in fact road is the overall gnarliest, by a good margin, out of everything. hint why- it comes down to the high speeds, never mind the sheer physical exertion.
both sports are gnarly. I don’t think road racing requires any more courage than BMX or MTB. BMX vert & racing are dangerous. Mat Hoffman has broken more bones than the entire TdF peloton combined. Road racing is more brutal from an endurance and physical conditioning point of view, and the sport has its share of crashes and serious injuries. There are many BMX riders who have sustained serious injuries, more so than road racing athletes.
@@steveneumeyer681 sure, playtime can mess you up, but not like the sheer kinetic energy of truly high speeds.
Will never forget when Lance to him to "Ride like you stole something!"
Every successful pro cyclist has to make this conscious decision Floyd is talking about to no longer care about his physical well being. You have to accept it as part of your life. The moment you feel fear you're done, you are going to get seriously hurt or die or kill someone around you.
@ 3:20 My next question would have been 30 hrs (hard miles) doping; But how many hard miles
training in a natural state?
@@jmc8728 Hey, just saw your reply and thought I'd chime in. I know this is not the popular answer, but the great percentage of pro's I know raced completely clean their entire careers up until the mid to late 90's, unless they were the very top guys in Europe, and then, only the top teams in Europe were supporting entire teams to dope. If the guys were domestiques, US based, they were mostly clean. All the top guys know who's on the juice. That's a much longer discussion as to how we all knew. Anyway, to answer your question, I was doing 25-30 hours a week completely clean from 1987-1997, I was 25 until I was 35, then cut back a bit each year but still did 20-25 hours clean for the rest of my career. "Hard Miles" was maybe 10-15 hours depending on what you mean by "Hard"... Many of those hard days were Race Days. We had over 100 Race Days a season.
@@jamiepaolinetti5087 I mentioned hard miles here because, at the interview timestamp of 3:20 Floyd stresses 30 hours "hard miles" per week. I would imagine that even pros at that level would be worthless come race day if they are training 30 "hard mile" hours per week, Hence the reason for doping (so they can train harder and recover quicker). From what I understand; They dope for the higher intensity training/recovery benefits that ultimately pay off come race day. Just saying I would have followed up the question at 3:20 and given Floyd's candor in this series of interviews I am sure he would have enlightened us, as have you, in regards to realistic hard miles trained that a natural athlete can endure (just a missed opportunity by the interviewer in this case).
@@jmc8728 Yep. Agreed. He's also talking about preparing for the tour specifically I think. I know Floyd, have both raced and trained with him and all his friends from the time he started, I know he wasn't always doing that kind of intensity. That is one thing Lance, (and Floyd in later years) really changed in cycling. Lance mastered spending an entire year training, doping, and planning for one race, The Tour. Everything else was lead up or follow up.
@@jamiepaolinetti5087 Thanks, for the replies and takes on this, enjoyed.
Once again Thx for telling the Truth - reason I luv watching and listening to U 😎😎😎🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
Unpopular opinion: Cycling needs doping.
Obviously it's bad for the riders' health but from a moral view it's either "everyone is doped" or "no one is doped". I didn't even bother to watch cycling for the last few years because it feels like very few are able to compete. Are they doped? I don't know, but it feels to me like the Tour is too difficult to complete successfully if you aren't on some kind of doping. It's a sport... It makes people famous. Lance Armstrong chose fame over his health and became an American hero and an icon. I bet he has no regrets.
Thank you
so sad, all those emotions, time and effort from the riders and everyone involved just to be told it's all fake years later. It was just another show.
Floyd could be a brother to Cal Crutchlow
being honest about the anxiety of the race and finally dealing with it is the truth..Lance would never talk like this because he is a cut above most humans...he truly is
Lance is a cheater and a bully.
A cut below most humans
@@PInk77W1 a cheater among cheaters
You missed the letter "n" when you wrote the word "cut".
Good job he never shared a peleton with Hinault...he would have been scared then.... Lol
why, cause he was a loud-mouthed frog?
A war??? Really
2:30
Regarding all the "doping" in athletics Ole Bill Burr said it best: "Our roided-up guy beat your roided-up guy."
He was talking about lance Armstrong
I wonder, did these doping cheaters return their prize money?
Yes, and paid the fines to
@@garethhancock8525 Ok, thanks for the information.
@@TerraRubicon no problem
Who are they cheating if everyone is on the same shit?
@@abone2pick Then they should rename the sport cycling on dope.
Get some soccer players on your show like Thierry Henry
this dude seems kind of soft for a professional athlete
dude...have you ever heard/seen chris froome talk??? chris froome makes this guy look like Rambo.
Soft lol
Peoples different perception is funny, I think he comes across as a stone cold. Terminator like. I wouldn’t like to compete with him. You can tell he’s determined, I meant he did win the tour. The bit where he describes how he decided it’s a war and if he dies he dies to eliminate the fear is chilling. This is a bike race man and he’s accepting death lol
He's just expressing himself. Cycling is a very emotional sport. Nothing fruity about it, just emotions
and also uses PED's lmao. cmon bud
24k miles isn't that much. I ride 20k and I'm not pro guess I am now 🤣
20k miles of racing is way different than 20k of group rides and trips to the cafe. Not to mention these guys climb around 1.5 million vertical feet each year