Safe Life Defense Level 4 ICW Plate Test
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2022
- In this video I see how a Safe Life Defense Level 4 ICW Plate performs against a handful of common rounds including pistol and rifle cartridges.
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Would have loved to see it shot rifles first so it would be a true integrity test with out the damage from the pistols
Thank you! Awesome testing.
Basically the plates took some abuse before moving up to rifle rounds & without the added stability of tightly woven Kevlar behind it to absorbe some that backface deformation, it held up pretty well for being a thinner, lighter weight tile.
this channel is underrated af
I wonder what it would do in a plate carrier. And the bulge is called back face deformation. That’s why you run soft 3A armor with it.
What plates have you worked with that have preformed the best in your opinion and a brand that you would personally use for self-defense?
@civilianangle Do you know what is unfair to Fras? Everybody tested it as a stand alone plate rather than what it was meant for and that's as in conjunction with. Nobody has tested it with the accredited plate armor that makes it Level IV armor in the first place. What exactly would that Bernanke Black Magic do if if had the accredited plate to go wit it? Let alone those other pieces of ammunition that pierced it as a stand alone? How would it fair if you pair the full plate in conjunction with a smaller Fras plate in the place of the hard plate? Now that is a fair test to the Fras system sir. The same goes for this plate asxwell. Theyre all in conjunction with plates. Therefore none of the Safelife Defense plates were tested correctly. They qas misding the key component that made them level IV armor in which was the secondary armor that was to be conjoined to it to test it at the level IV armor level.
Hey Thanks sir! I have 2 of these exact plates on order to complement my bulletsafe3a vest.
Looks like Colorado dirt out there as well? I'm in Aurora,Enjoy and Merry Christmas brother!
I’m in southern Oregon! But for sure man. I think these plates are kick ass especially with some soft armor backing.
@civilianangle LOL I wasn't close but same mountain range!
Would having already shot the ceramic not compromise it’s integrity when testing rifle rounds or does that not matter?
Being that they are constructed with ceramic blocks, if you hit a fresh spot it should provide the protection.
Good vid, Wherever I May Roam is underplayed and underrated Metallica song. One of my favorite songs of all time.
I don't like that Safe Life is intentionally manufacturing these to force two purchases. Also I wish you had not shot the plate up with pistol rounds. Also note that GREENTIP are penetrator rounds and not AP rounds as you stated. In my opinion AND IT'S JUST ME SAYING, YOU REALLY DIDN'T TEST THEM FOR WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSEDLY RATED FOR...LARGE RIFLE AND ARMOR PIERCING ROUNDS..
A True LvL IV plate would have stopped that 308. Granted it's going to hurt but you stand a chance of living. You come of of your test claiming that was great performance? Mind you after you have shot the plate with PISTOL rounds?!?!?! Why didn't you just shoot up your soft panels instead?
That was a waste bro..
This is an ICW plate. ICW = In Conjunction With. You only achieve level 4 protection with soft armor behind them. I shot them to see how they would do as a stand alone plate. I used common rounds that shooters use. As a stand alone they did good for what they are, but with soft armor behind it would provide more protection. They are not true level 4 plates, and I find it annoying that safe life markets them as “Hard Rifle Plate Level IV ICW” because it’s misleading. Being that this is just a soft armor upgrade I wanted to see it on its own without backing. Maybe you missed that part?
@civilianangle and there is the problem. safe Life misleads people. They could have easily created a stand-alone LvL IV plate.
They instead chose to do this quirky ICW crap.
I do believe the marketing is misleading for sure, and that's unfortunate coming from a law enforcement perspective because I can see how the ICW system would work really well and have reasonable real life applications. @@gregchamberlain7554
@@civilianangle LvL IV protection can stop 30.06 armor piercing rounds. So calling it LvL IV wouldn't be the truth.
You would be closer if you had said LEVEL III. It is certainly not LeveL IV. If you are going to push this stuff got Safe Life it would be nice if you knew what you are selling
Would you trust these plates to take multiple hits from 62gr green tip & standard fmj 5.56 or .223 without the lvl3A vest? I suppose it would be fine, more so if the plate was not already shot with 9mm, 45 etc. Great video though.
I wouldn’t trust a green tip at all with these plates. Green tip scares me.
@@civilianangleyou should fear the M855A1 >:)
Honestly I wouldn’t trust any ICW plate by itself for any rifle round. I’d rather have a level 4 stand alone. That’s partly why I shot these plates because I’m not a huge safelife fan and I wasn’t going to buy the soft armor and really had no use for them.
I just bought this safe life level 4, the label said its made in China 😆 I would not want to be hit even with .22 lol
You think that last round would’ve been stopped if there’s a level 3a vest on behind it?
I’m not totally sure but I wouldn’t be surprised because safe life defense seems to surprise everyone with their quality and reliability.
I just wished this video was shorter overall or had time stamps. I have to go and look what I want to look for in a 26 minute long video.
It has mosaic ceramic tile which is supposed to handle rifle rds by itself. Maybe they are thinner than other brand level IV stand alone that use mosaic tile. Plates using this are usually the lighter in weight level IV plates as opposed to monolithic ceramic plates which are definitely heavier. I have a set of RMA level IV monolithic ceramic plates and are 8.3 lbs each for the SAPI cut, swimmer’s cut is 8.0 lbs each. Heavy af! 😅 Why not use another common rifle round like 7.62 x 39? So many have AK47s
He did shoot it with 7.62x39
But your plate technology will stop 308 AP and 30 06 AP rounds, along with anything of the lower calibers. That is what LvL IV plates should be able to do without question.
I like the idea behind FRAS reducing weight. But we also should note that there are sub 5 LB LvL IV plates on the market using plate technology. There are also duritium plates that can weigh in at I believe 3.5 LBS. This type of plate will also have a positive buoyancy rating. However you will spend quite a bit more money for them.
Even more critical is the fact that Safe Life says:
"FRAS WITH YOUR IIIA+ VEST: (ICW Maximum Protection) Use this 10×12 plate in your IIIA or IIIA+ Vest plate pocket to achieve level III+ protection against threats up to .308 & 7.62x54r!"
So, they sort of let you think it's a LvL IV Armor when they in fact in writing on their own website says it equivalent to LvLIII+. Again, no protection against AP (Armor Piercing) as would be the case with LvL IV plates.
If you look at companies like Hesco they create ICW plate such as:
3800LV-SH-MC-L at 2.1 lbs, and 3800LV-SH-MC-S at 1.4 lbs that only need LvL IIIA panels.
By comparison Safe Life tell us we need their LvL IIIa+ panels starting at "ONLY" 3.97 pounds.
Note what do they mean ONLY, since FRAS is heavier when compared to ICW products from Hesco.
Again Safe Life is far too misleading...
I wanna meet the liberal that told him green tips are armor piercing😂 peep that shooting stance with the AK too💀
What brand holster is that for the 9mm?
Safari Land
@@civilianangle RDR Gear makes a great bracket designed to mount to that safariland holster for a tourniquet holder mounting option, suppose you could use it to easily add a mag carrier as well lol. Check them out to clever little lightweight piece of kit
I bought that RDR bracket hoping it would Mount up well with my Guerrilla Tactical lvl2 holster which uses the Safariland qls but it did not a little bit too short cuz of the fold in the Kydex but I was half expecting it to not fit quite right cuz of the holster design still great item company when talking to him customer support was very cool recommend em.
So you waisted a plate to shoot pistol rounds? It's a lvl4 icw plate. Rifles buddy. Rifles.
I shot rifles at it buddy.
It’s only level IV if used in conjunction with level III. I’m grateful that he tested multiple calibers and I can feel less stupid about buying these plates
@@civilianangle we are all buddies around here lol
I saw both rifles a pistols. Was a great vid
@@YungBeezer ICW means only that the soft nij 3a will work as a blunt force trauma absorber (same as the standalone ones, that have that incorporated) - it does not mean that the plate will not stop the bullets that it is made to stop - or that will decrease it's level 4 classification. When they do their NIJ classification and testings, they are taking into account the blackface deformation that is supposed to be at a certain depth measurement and there is where the trauma pad (the soft armor nij 3a) comes into play,either embedded with the plate or as an add-on - ICW.
Just because your not going to use a soft nij 3a as backer (ICW) it does not mean that you are going to get punctured ,but, for sure your going to hurt more because of the back-face (edited here for @YungBeezer,who only understood the typo fault he found) deformation that your body is going to directly be submitted to without the absorber to do its job
So most rounds you will survive technically??
Yes, most small rifle rounds, but I wouldn't let body armor give a false sense of confidence.
dude we know its gonna stop .45 hollow points even level 2 soft armor can do that
I know, complete waste of time and space on the plate
This is an ICW plate being shot as stand alone. I put .45 through it along with other rounds incrementally so people could see that it would actually stop it. I would rather have people buy this plate knowing full well what it can do than just skip over very common rounds. Thanks for your concern.
Can use it alone with tactical vest?
You wanna test individual rounds you cant hit the same place as you shot a different round.
Yea so the the damage to the back of the plate by 9mm HP was done by the steel plate
Ya I was referring to the small bulge in the back of it but my shitty camera work didn’t really pick that up. But ya you’re right, most of it was from the steel plate.
Prob nobody cares about what the pistols do if you wanted to test with handguns you should’ve used 3a armor use the rifle
I’ll use whatever I want bud. Don’t tell me how to make my videos. If the content isn’t for you then keep scrolling.
@civilianangle what size are you in tactical vest if I wanted to go past the belly button
And can I wear alone with tactical?