I support the harsh stance on drug traffickers. I remember LKY was asked about this and his answer is similar to Min Shan’s. We should protect the innocent instead of feeling sorry for the people who caused so much pain to the victims, for their own profit. Save your sympathy for the victims.
this minister series is really something so niche that no podcast/show in Singapore has offered, so happy for u guys!! I think in a time when politics is getting more and more distant from the youth its great to have you guys bridging the gap for us and on our side airing our "grievances" on gvt's side giving them opportunities to explain, to me its a win-win la and its surely going to inspire youth like me to pay more attention to national issues! All the best ✌
Bringing ministers onboard is a masterstroke. Its so insightful and very enlightening. I had a different view towards the death penalty but hearing Min. talk about it gave me a whole new perspective. Love it. Really good stuff guys!
Next up please talk about NS. A lot of male citizens would hope to listen to more thoughts on this. Very strong negative feelings towards it’s “unfairness”.
Singapore, you are truly fortunate to have this man as a representative of your government! This man is very intelligent, is well-spoken as a natural born leader, and genuinely seems to care for the wellbeing of the people he has been elected to serve. I sincerely wish that more countries in this world had leaders like this Member of Singapore's Parliament!
Love this so much! Props to Min Shan for this conversation and to all the hosts for asking tougher questions to pull out the rationale to why Singapore's death penalty is still here. May not work for other countries but it works here
I am all for death penalty. For those who are fighting against it, you need to travel more, see more, experience more, in order to truly know how it destroys the individuals and families. This view will come with age; I was once younger and I used to think it’s cool to have lots of fun and a little drug wouldn’t kill but in reality, those people always end up getting too deep into it and have their lives implicated in a crazy way.
I love to listen to Mr Shanmugam’s interviews. His knowledge, experience, and how he explains things make the person who asks questions speechless. I am always learning something from him. I pray and wish to get a few ministers like Mr Shanmugam to our country (Sri Lanka) as well. Great work, guys! 🎉
Thank you for inviting Minister Shan and talking about this topic. Most of the people worldwide just making use of compassions of one from either family or from others for own benefits.
Yes, it is of highest possibility it is a health tracking device. Imagine the level of stress and thought processes each day as a minister - couple that with the health side effects of aging and the lack of quality time for personal matters: hobby, exercising and sleep. May they be blessed with long healthy lives and thank you for your commitment and dedication towards building the nation
Please bring him back or bring in other ministers, maybe host a Q&A session on your socials and get other fellow Singaporeans to ask questions. This is a really good series for us to get to know ministers on an individual level and also for them to keep boots on the ground with us peasants.
It’s heartening to hear that drug abusers don’t have criminal records in Sg anymore. Helping them back on their feet and reintegrate with society is so much more constructive and meaningful.
Yes. That's what I feel about drugs traffickers and their family who is fighting for them. Their family also enjoy the profits from the successful trafficking attempts but do not return the money when caught. The drug abusers' family should show up at these anti-death penalty protests and shout at them.
Finally subscribed to this channel after this episode! Really cool, love the minister series.. I see the pride in building sgp to world class...pride and arrogant is a fine line, stay humble, stay safe 🙏
Many SG people are too privileged and taking the safety in the country for granted. Just try staying in any other ASEAN city for a year alone, take public transport and stay on local public housing areas. Just try it and see for yourself why SG death penalties work as intended and is keeping your family out of harm's way.
If you think about it, the millionaires that are coming into Singapore, a good number of them were from the countries criticising our systems. If the alternatives are really that good, why are the richest and brightest from these regions coming here instead of remaining there?
I am an ardent supporter of the opposition and I detest Shanmugan and his ilk. But I am COMPLETELY in support of what he says here in the podcast. A very clear and firm stance. He also made superb points pertaining to the individuals and those behind them looking to enrich themselves by harming others. If said people are inclined to make money without due consideration for the lives of others, then why should the state or we as a people give any concern for their lives?
I think this ministry has to take a very hard decisions and his decisions have been very good despite the backlash from people. He put the priority on people than his own face because he's received hate.
Death penalty will still work as long self-discipline and personal responsibility doesn't. The fact is that most convicts are aware of the consequences, and still exercise their freewill. Whether is death penalty or other penalties, no one is (and should be) exempted from the consequences of the things they do or say.
I saw some Thai mother in rehab centers with their new horns who were drug addicts too. It was a shocking sight. It was like a ghost dying graves n the poor babies were crying
Re the 'low income' exception for drug traffickers - the problem is that the public policy argument is based on facts and logic, which, sure, makes sense, but appeals to the head and not the heart. IMO the bigger reason is the moral argument - that it is plain bs to say that these people are poor and desperate and that's why they resort to drug trafficking - how about all the poor and desperate people who refuse to take easy money and decide to keep struggling? Making this ridiculous argument spits on their struggles, efforts. Just because you are poor doesn't justify you hurting others, no more than being poor justifies you stealing. There are plenty of poor people who make the difficult and right choice - respect and honour them.
Yes, always say don't take the safety of Singapore for granted, the choping of seats with valueables here is ... .... smh. and everything else. Thanks Minister K. Shanmugam for the reply on why don't rape get the death penalty like drugs. and also, Thanks JP for asking that bonus question Working " with Lee Kuan Yew " that is a question I would always ask every old guard that worked with Grandpa Lee.
I read a quote somewhere, that mentioned why people should arrest criminals, murderers and drug traffickers despite their sympathetic backgrounds. we owe it all the people who have gone through similar tragedies, who found the strength to find other paths, who made the right choice. it isn’t fair to them, and it isn’t fair to the victims of the crimes. they had a choice, and they chose to go down the wrong path.
Loving the content yall put out all the time! Contetnt rly just keeps getting better and better ❤️ Really informative and interesting and Mr Shanmugam is so composed its lovely to hear him speak
I have a feeling that Lawrence Wong has a very diff leadership style and I hope he gets invited in the podcast. Shanmugam was a great lawyer, but I’ve spoken to many police officers and the morale within the SPF seems very low, very high turnover rate. His intellect is admirable but this may compromise leadership skills/ability to relate to those below. He views “affability” as an obstacle to getting things done which says a lot about one’s perspective and people skills (mindset from the past which sets the culture in various gvt agencies). He cites many statistics and “facts” but doesn’t necessarily lead from the heart which is important in bonding / inspiring people, it is a balancing act. The most socially intelligent are those like Jon, who relate to others, help others feel good, SO THAT they get things done. Hard-headedness does not make the best leaders, at least when the term is phrased/used that way. He needs a good deputy to complement his strengths.
Although some may have opposing views, myself included, I think Minister Shanmugam has convinced most of us of the factual basis of the Death Penalty. It is also good to know there are always reviews to make sure it truly serves its purpose as a deterrence. Hopefully one day, maybe slowly, our country may still maintain its safety while at the same time abolishing the death penalty and move on to more progressive forms of punishment. Until then it is always reassuring for citizens to know that our laws are always based on facts and the clear conscience of our governance.
Thats the issue. We are 100% hands on with this law, to protect singapore from drugs, however, that doesn't make us less sympathetic. Its kind of sad that people who live outside of singapore don't see it.
the death penalty for drug trafficking was introduced on 20 November 1975 presumely after the worrying results collected after the formation of the Central narcotics bureau in 1971.
If Singapore discontinues death penalty as capital punishment for drug trafficking, much more drug traffickers would definitely not anymore hesitate to try their lucks and chances. Singapore is now still almost 100% drugs-free all because of death penalty for drug traffickers as the first national defense line. (But even this is still not enough so Singapore needs Central Narcotics Bureau) Drug traffickers are warned about lethal consequences and they still choose to do what they do in Singapore. This can only be their choices, their mistakes and their problems but never Singapore's. Singapore never has any hesitations between choosing to protect innocents and mercy towards drug traffickers. So drugs cannot trespass into Singapore to hurt any Singaporeans!
Good that y’all are inviting ministers, but don’t get too caught up with “moving up”, this makes you susceptible to becoming mouthpieces for those “up there” in power.
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I support the harsh stance on drug traffickers. I remember LKY was asked about this and his answer is similar to Min Shan’s. We should protect the innocent instead of feeling sorry for the people who caused so much pain to the victims, for their own profit. Save your sympathy for the victims.
Very true.
Mr Shanmugam is always calm & composed . Love listening to him
Lies again? Drugs Guns
this minister series is really something so niche that no podcast/show in Singapore has offered, so happy for u guys!! I think in a time when politics is getting more and more distant from the youth its great to have you guys bridging the gap for us and on our side airing our "grievances" on gvt's side giving them opportunities to explain, to me its a win-win la and its surely going to inspire youth like me to pay more attention to national issues! All the best ✌
Okletsgo had a podcast with min Shan about 2 years ago. Do check them out!
I like how the hosts listen to Minister Shan so attentively. He is so calm and composed when he speaks and pulls no punches in his words.
Really? 1-2 hosts would often say or comment something while the Minister is talking. It happened more than once..
Bringing ministers onboard is a masterstroke. Its so insightful and very enlightening. I had a different view towards the death penalty but hearing Min. talk about it gave me a whole new perspective.
Love it. Really good stuff guys!
Man, it's the Minister's gathering. Collect them all, TDK.
"gotta catch them all"
Pokemon reference
@@itzSoonz hey what about pablo escobar thats a rare specimen indeed
Next up please talk about NS. A lot of male citizens would hope to listen to more thoughts on this. Very strong negative feelings towards it’s “unfairness”.
Pokémon? Keep them in your house
Very soon Lee Kuan Yew might comeback to life and join the podcast
The response to the penalty for rape was so well thought out. Never considered it, but it makes a lot of sense.
Singapore, you are truly fortunate to have this man as a representative of your government! This man is very intelligent, is well-spoken as a natural born leader, and genuinely seems to care for the wellbeing of the people he has been elected to serve. I sincerely wish that more countries in this world had leaders like this Member of Singapore's Parliament!
We are blessed to have a minister like him.
Minister Shan really put everything into perspective
Love this so much! Props to Min Shan for this conversation and to all the hosts for asking tougher questions to pull out the rationale to why Singapore's death penalty is still here. May not work for other countries but it works here
I am all for death penalty. For those who are fighting against it, you need to travel more, see more, experience more, in order to truly know how it destroys the individuals and families. This view will come with age; I was once younger and I used to think it’s cool to have lots of fun and a little drug wouldn’t kill but in reality, those people always end up getting too deep into it and have their lives implicated in a crazy way.
I really enjoy this minister talk! Please continue to invite them! 🙏🏻
Would love to see more ministers invited for this talks . Gives us insight of what happens behind each ministries. 👍🥰🥰
I love to listen to Mr Shanmugam’s interviews. His knowledge, experience, and how he explains things make the person who asks questions speechless. I am always learning something from him. I pray and wish to get a few ministers like Mr Shanmugam to our country (Sri Lanka) as well. Great work, guys! 🎉
This is exactly the type of government leadership we desperately need here in the US!
Honestly listening to this makes me want to work and move to Singapore. Im amazed how eloquently he spoke.
my favorite Minister! awesome to see him in such a setting!
I like this minister! He’s so calm, so collected and so wise!! / salute!
Thank you for inviting Minister Shan and talking about this topic.
Most of the people worldwide just making use of compassions of one from either family or from others for own benefits.
Pls invite Louis Ng on the podcast if possible, always found his career path as a MP to be a pretty interesting one.
Great piece for having Minister Sham on board to have a Q&A. Maybe can do a COVID wrap up with the Task Force Ministers? Or Minister Wong?
I’ve been working in the US for awhile and to those that think of drugs as harmless. They should really visit the Tenderloin area in San Francisco.
Same in Australia. Especially in country towns. It’s really rampant
I am with you for this. Look at what drugs harm did to Seattle, now Freettle, Drugttle, Homelessttle.
It's crazy, they are not well.
Informative talk. Factual arguments that makes one understand the reasons for our death penalty.
You know the minister has a busy life when you see the watches he wears on each hand
One of it might be a health tracker (The one on his right hand)
the one on the right is a health tracker
Yes, it is of highest possibility it is a health tracking device. Imagine the level of stress and thought processes each day as a minister - couple that with the health side effects of aging and the lack of quality time for personal matters: hobby, exercising and sleep.
May they be blessed with long healthy lives and thank you for your commitment and dedication towards building the nation
One is India time and the other is Singapore
@@STALINGRAD7 lmao what
13:02 The moment when Denise said "Yes, except now Hungry Ghost festival" was way too funny LOL
Really insightful episode, learnt a lot about what goes behind Singapore's policy making
Could you guys do an episode on Singapore's stance on e-cigarettes and vaping? Would love to hear all of your views on that.
thats not a topic worth going deep into
Getting strapped for this one, big fan of Minister K. Shanmugam.
Please bring him back or bring in other ministers, maybe host a Q&A session on your socials and get other fellow Singaporeans to ask questions. This is a really good series for us to get to know ministers on an individual level and also for them to keep boots on the ground with us peasants.
It’s heartening to hear that drug abusers don’t have criminal records in Sg anymore. Helping them back on their feet and reintegrate with society is so much more constructive and meaningful.
Yes. That's what I feel about drugs traffickers and their family who is fighting for them. Their family also enjoy the profits from the successful trafficking attempts but do not return the money when caught. The drug abusers' family should show up at these anti-death penalty protests and shout at them.
feels like many modern world shows more pity for the criminal more than the victims of the criminal quite sad really.
These episodes are great and informative. Really impressed with TDK :)
Really insightful podcast, would love to see Minister back again on the podcast!
I feel so lucky to be born a Singaporean.
Finally subscribed to this channel after this episode! Really cool, love the minister series.. I see the pride in building sgp to world class...pride and arrogant is a fine line, stay humble, stay safe 🙏
Damn, this is a quality podcast! how I wish Mr Lee was able to be invited here. it will be an exclusive episode.
Many SG people are too privileged and taking the safety in the country for granted.
Just try staying in any other ASEAN city for a year alone, take public transport and stay on local public housing areas. Just try it and see for yourself why SG death penalties work as intended and is keeping your family out of harm's way.
If you think about it, the millionaires that are coming into Singapore, a good number of them were from the countries criticising our systems. If the alternatives are really that good, why are the richest and brightest from these regions coming here instead of remaining there?
Tax haven, duh.
So happy with this podcast, very well respected Minister
Excellent clarification, Minister Shanmugam! TDK, keep them coming....👍
Kudos to the Minister for coming on the show & tackling the questions head on. Convincing!
I am an ardent supporter of the opposition and I detest Shanmugan and his ilk. But I am COMPLETELY in support of what he says here in the podcast. A very clear and firm stance. He also made superb points pertaining to the individuals and those behind them looking to enrich themselves by harming others. If said people are inclined to make money without due consideration for the lives of others, then why should the state or we as a people give any concern for their lives?
Totally loved this.
Do more of such interviews.
Awesome! These should be the way for Minister's Dialogues!!
Minister shan is an honest man with straight answers , cool respect
Pls bring more ministers on the show!
Singapore is gifted to have such talenteed and compassionate leaders
I think this ministry has to take a very hard decisions and his decisions have been very good despite the backlash from people. He put the priority on people than his own face because he's received hate.
Death penalty will still work as long self-discipline and personal responsibility doesn't. The fact is that most convicts are aware of the consequences, and still exercise their freewill. Whether is death penalty or other penalties, no one is (and should be) exempted from the consequences of the things they do or say.
Anyone else noticed that minister is wearing 2 watches? I super love these interviews with ministers and religion leaders 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
From what I remember, the death penalty for drug trafficking has been around when I was a small boy in mid 80s.
See title…. No way…. U got THE minister shamugam…….. kudos on having him the show! Ok watching now. Wheeeeeee
I saw some Thai mother in rehab centers with their new horns who were drug addicts too. It was a shocking sight. It was like a ghost dying graves n the poor babies were crying
Minister Shan got that drippppppppp
serious answers given in a very mild manner makes the commentators at ease
Re the 'low income' exception for drug traffickers - the problem is that the public policy argument is based on facts and logic, which, sure, makes sense, but appeals to the head and not the heart.
IMO the bigger reason is the moral argument - that it is plain bs to say that these people are poor and desperate and that's why they resort to drug trafficking - how about all the poor and desperate people who refuse to take easy money and decide to keep struggling? Making this ridiculous argument spits on their struggles, efforts. Just because you are poor doesn't justify you hurting others, no more than being poor justifies you stealing. There are plenty of poor people who make the difficult and right choice - respect and honour them.
Yes,
always say don't take the safety of Singapore for granted,
the choping of seats with valueables here is ...
.... smh.
and everything else.
Thanks Minister K. Shanmugam for the reply on why don't rape get the death penalty like drugs.
and also,
Thanks JP for asking that bonus question Working " with Lee Kuan Yew "
that is a question I would always ask every old guard that worked with Grandpa Lee.
Like how we have our minister putting out there the perspective of policy making and benefiting the society of SG in one big picture~
Haven’t watched this yet, but wow shit is getting real, Min Shan - hope you guys managed to hold your own lol
I read a quote somewhere, that mentioned why people should arrest criminals, murderers and drug traffickers despite their sympathetic backgrounds.
we owe it all the people who have gone through similar tragedies, who found the strength to find other paths, who made the right choice. it isn’t fair to them, and it isn’t fair to the victims of the crimes. they had a choice, and they chose to go down the wrong path.
broooo how lucky can y’all be to have a podcast with ministers
It's so stressful interviewing Minister Shanmugan lol.
Loving the content yall put out all the time! Contetnt rly just keeps getting better and better ❤️ Really informative and interesting and Mr Shanmugam is so composed its lovely to hear him speak
I feel the stress for you guys throughout the entire podcast
Should have a part 2 on the schooling case.
Such an intelligent man...
Denise facial expression and enlightentment + John's "NOT SAY IS SARPPORT AHH" hahaha EPIC!!! Min Shan #masterclass ^^
To the whole Daily Ketchup Team, i sincerely appreciate this podcast presented to us . Best wishes always. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Very very very good episode!! Well done! I hope there’s more than 1 episode
So much clarity!
Next Minister Tharman 😉
I have a feeling that Lawrence Wong has a very diff leadership style and I hope he gets invited in the podcast. Shanmugam was a great lawyer, but I’ve spoken to many police officers and the morale within the SPF seems very low, very high turnover rate. His intellect is admirable but this may compromise leadership skills/ability to relate to those below. He views “affability” as an obstacle to getting things done which says a lot about one’s perspective and people skills (mindset from the past which sets the culture in various gvt agencies). He cites many statistics and “facts” but doesn’t necessarily lead from the heart which is important in bonding / inspiring people, it is a balancing act. The most socially intelligent are those like Jon, who relate to others, help others feel good, SO THAT they get things done. Hard-headedness does not make the best leaders, at least when the term is phrased/used that way. He needs a good deputy to complement his strengths.
John really comes across as an ardent fanboy of the gov.
TDK be collecting MPs like pokémon
Gotta catch 'em all... Pokemon! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This series can be archived for future use
love the series with minsters !
Amazing Minister.
Getting burnt by Shanmugam just like how John did is one of the things I've never known I've always wanted.
i really enjoyed myself with this episode, in fact with the ministers onboard (Chan/Shan). keep it up.
OMG LOVE HIM SO MUCH!
Although some may have opposing views, myself included, I think Minister Shanmugam has convinced most of us of the factual basis of the Death Penalty.
It is also good to know there are always reviews to make sure it truly serves its purpose as a deterrence. Hopefully one day, maybe slowly, our country may still maintain its safety while at the same time abolishing the death penalty and move on to more progressive forms of punishment. Until then it is always reassuring for citizens to know that our laws are always based on facts and the clear conscience of our governance.
Insightful, great to hear a session where the thought process is thoroughly roll-out instead of being interrupted constantly,
Hard Head, Soft Heart
Now I really get persuaded on coming to SG
To me. He is the best minister :). He will always my support.
Thank you minister shanmugan :)
his voice is very calming….
Very insightful
Thats the issue. We are 100% hands on with this law, to protect singapore from drugs, however, that doesn't make us less sympathetic. Its kind of sad that people who live outside of singapore don't see it.
yes and continue to do so
HAHAHA the ending bloopers. I’m surprised my brain didn’t go there the first time 😂😂
the death penalty for drug trafficking was introduced on 20 November 1975 presumely after the worrying results collected after the formation of the Central narcotics bureau in 1971.
Very informative and interesting. More should watch. Kamsiah!
off topic but Mr Shanmugam is totes rocking his polo ralph vest
The biggest takeaway is from our Minister “善木跟” is that he has created a new trending by wearing digital & analog watches at the same time. 🤪👍👏🇸🇬
Omg I did not notice that
If Singapore discontinues death penalty as capital punishment for drug trafficking, much more drug traffickers would definitely not anymore hesitate to try their lucks and chances. Singapore is now still almost 100% drugs-free all because of death penalty for drug traffickers as the first national defense line. (But even this is still not enough so Singapore needs Central Narcotics Bureau)
Drug traffickers are warned about lethal consequences and they still choose to do what they do in Singapore. This can only be their choices, their mistakes and their problems but never Singapore's.
Singapore never has any hesitations between choosing to protect innocents and mercy towards drug traffickers. So drugs cannot trespass into Singapore to hurt any Singaporeans!
Good that y’all are inviting ministers, but don’t get too caught up with “moving up”, this makes you susceptible to becoming mouthpieces for those “up there” in power.
I love uuuuUu Mr Shanmugam!!
Can we have Tan Chuan Jin next?
Great video! Finished it and loved it
Singaporean here: Unwavering support for our death penalty🫡🫡🫡