I put my order in on the day Hoo announced that the knives had arrived in the UK, just got the notification that its in the post while I was watching this. Great review Al, thanks❤🔪
It used to happen to my Spyderco PITS knife as well as my Ti Luna so I was pretty much expecting it on this too, short of an inlay underneath it, I don't really know if anyone has found a good solution to pocket clip rub on titanium.
@@UKLegalCarryKnives I have other Ti models but the rubbing on those is hidden under the clip. On this V1 I have almost 1cm of rub line on the scale as there is a bit of wobble on the clip before it even starts bending with extra pressure. Mine seems a little more stiff to operate than yours too so I'm having to apply more force on the clip to flip the blade open. I tried loosening the pivot but that just gave a load of blade wobble and it was still stiff.
@@SomeoneSmarter Hmm, they do have the warranty if the stiffness doesn't break in, maybe some lube on the detent points, or perhaps a burr left on the detent socket, worth a check!
@@UKLegalCarryKnives you could use a small layer of clear nail polish along the rub point but if there's already a mark then there's no point unless you just want it not to get worse. Do you know who manufactured these?
It looks like a “flipping Luna” in the closed position. Pocket clip etc. would love this knife with thumb studs. I have large hands and think the flipper tab will cramp the grip for me. Shame as it’s good to see an affordable higher end material uk friendly folding knife. Sure this will be well received in the community.
I have never doubted the quality of this knife since he was always posting updates about it ect I've seen the comment on a few places saying it looks like a luna when its closed ive got to agree it does but everyone likes the luna lol Buzzing for mine
Waiting for mine, but given the rate he is working at it won't be long. I will admit, given the pricing for the specs, I was nervous of doing a preorder as I was unsure what the quality would be like but by all accounts this seems stunning and as you say, fairly unbeatable value. The action looks perfect, I'm going to drive my wife nuts 🤣.
One could bend the detent arms by removing the detent inserts like in the video and bending them more straight to make a weaker detent or bend them out more for stronger, doing so though will of course, void your warranty I'd think.
Great review, mine turned up today waahòo. But just my 2 cents on the pocket clip issue I also have the titanium luna which has an even thinner clip and have no rubbing issues with that. But not the end of the world its a knife and I'm sure I will get more dinks and scratches giving it some loving character.
How do you open it? My Luna has rubbed (though admittedly not as bad), it won't naturally rub if you open it with two hands but using a thumbstud still pushes on it,
@@UKLegalCarryKnives I too also,use thumb stud bought a luna eco and took stud off, I use a pinch grip around handle with thumb and forefinger and when blade is lifted enough use thumb to fully open.if that makes sense.
@@ScottMProductions29 to be fair I had a look at mine today and it turns out the Luna is made of steel rather than Ti, that might lend to it's better strength.
Not sure why you think the cutting edge thing wouldn't stand up in court, Section 139 of the offensive weapons act specifically says cutting edge, it does not mention blade length.
@@alcw6346 ua-cam.com/video/5bVknOv19_w/v-deo.html&lc=UgwadhSTXy3Q6JR9-Rp4AaABAg.9KGFDd_fTC79KJFU-B6CUB Quote from the comments from a barrister in the above video: ---------- Firstly, the Act does not define a "cutting edge", which is one source of your frustration, but this has been broadly defined by the Court of Appeal Criminal Division in R v Davies [1998] Crim LR 564 as "an article with a blade that falls within the same broad category as a knife or sharply pointed instrument.” Your suggestion that I rephrase the wording is, with respect, misconceived, because your conclusion on your understanding is that "[you] can think of several, legal, non locking, pocket knifes on the market that have 80mm 'blades', but perfectly lawful 75mm 'cutting edges'." - which is not correct. If the "blade" of a folding pocketnife (including both sharp and dull portions) is 80mm in length, this exceeds 3 inches and you cannot assume they are legal to carry in public as you have asserted. This was also considered by the High Court in Charles Brooker v Director of Public Prosecutions [2005] EWHC 1132 (Admin) in which Lord Justice Laws ruled as follows: "In my judgment we should create a great mischief if we construed this statute so as to invite argument, in case after case, as to whether or not the object in question was sharp." Secondly, the exemption in s.139 CJA 1988 isn't defined as "a sub 3" non locking", it is defined as "a folding pocketknife" which is not the same thing - both of which have been further refined and interpreted by the courts.
This is a much debated issue in the knife community, the main counterpoint being, there haven't been any issues/recalls yet, have a read through this forum to get an idea for the scope of this debate: www.bladeforums.com/threads/bearings-on-titanium.1618596/ personally, I think it's fine, If a widespread issue crops up though, I'd be happy to hold my hands up and say I was wrong.
Thank you very much! Great to hear you're enjoying them, my output has slowed only due to work recently, hopefully it'll slow down in Jan and I'll be able to up my channel output again.
VP creations, they have a website. Used them multiple times, they take a bit of time to turn around cause it’s all custom made (couple of weeks) but very good. They do aluminium, titanium, all the like
Not BAD but not as good as my victorinox 🇨🇭 sorry those old Swiss army knifes just keeps on giving an giving Swiss made like a tank thanks for sharing this one with us 👍🏻
@@knots7962 I think you're confusing flipper and flick knife, so long as it isn't automatic, there's nothing I've seen that prohibits non locking, 3" or less knives with flipper tabs.
I put my order in on the day Hoo announced that the knives had arrived in the UK, just got the notification that its in the post while I was watching this. Great review Al, thanks❤🔪
Thank you Paul, I'm sure you'll love it as well, look forward to seeing your thoughts on it on instagram!
For their first knife think they have knocked it out the park. A very hard combo to beat at that price point. Congrats to HOO it may concern.
I see what you did there!
I can’t wait for mine to arrive!!! Thanks for the review and getting me even more excited!
12:00 YES. Glad you mentioned this. My scale is now torn up under the clip with al the sliding up and down :(
It used to happen to my Spyderco PITS knife as well as my Ti Luna so I was pretty much expecting it on this too, short of an inlay underneath it, I don't really know if anyone has found a good solution to pocket clip rub on titanium.
@@UKLegalCarryKnives I have other Ti models but the rubbing on those is hidden under the clip. On this V1 I have almost 1cm of rub line on the scale as there is a bit of wobble on the clip before it even starts bending with extra pressure. Mine seems a little more stiff to operate than yours too so I'm having to apply more force on the clip to flip the blade open. I tried loosening the pivot but that just gave a load of blade wobble and it was still stiff.
Hmmm may get some bike frame protector spots and stick one under the contact point.
@@SomeoneSmarter Hmm, they do have the warranty if the stiffness doesn't break in, maybe some lube on the detent points, or perhaps a burr left on the detent socket, worth a check!
@@UKLegalCarryKnives you could use a small layer of clear nail polish along the rub point but if there's already a mark then there's no point unless you just want it not to get worse. Do you know who manufactured these?
It looks like a “flipping Luna” in the closed position. Pocket clip etc. would love this knife with thumb studs. I have large hands and think the flipper tab will cramp the grip for me. Shame as it’s good to see an affordable higher end material uk friendly folding knife. Sure this will be well received in the community.
The next iteration, the V2 I believe is very similar with thumb studs, keep an eye out on his instagram!
Thanks for the heads I definitely will 👍
It looks like if Ray Laconico had made the Luna.
Do you wear big socks?
Sick! Literally just got paid, buying this right now!
Received mine 2 days ago. The knife is amazing quality for the price and a lovely smooth action.
Certainly seems to be impressing from everything I’ve seen and heard so far! Think it’s going on the list
Just received one of these. Fantastic knife for the money
Ok. Now I need one.
I have never doubted the quality of this knife since he was always posting updates about it ect
I've seen the comment on a few places saying it looks like a luna when its closed ive got to agree it does but everyone likes the luna lol
Buzzing for mine
Waiting for mine, but given the rate he is working at it won't be long. I will admit, given the pricing for the specs, I was nervous of doing a preorder as I was unsure what the quality would be like but by all accounts this seems stunning and as you say, fairly unbeatable value. The action looks perfect, I'm going to drive my wife nuts 🤣.
“Do you need another knife?” Says the wife. I can hear mine saying it already
@@edhockett Mine has long since given up complaining, fortunatley
@@alcw6346 you have now reach master level
Can the detent be adjusted?
One could bend the detent arms by removing the detent inserts like in the video and bending them more straight to make a weaker detent or bend them out more for stronger, doing so though will of course, void your warranty I'd think.
@@UKLegalCarryKnives Thanks.
I really like the look of this... any discount codes for loyal UK Legal Carry Knives viewers? Thank you very much.
I'm afraid not, nobody has approached me with discount codes, I'm too small of a channel sadly!
Hi what's the weight of the knife please?
Mine is 102g
@@UKLegalCarryKnives thanks dude 👍
Great review, buddy. It's a classy looking design, and it's nice to see something new for the UK market to be excited about. Cheers!
Like someone described a Luna over the phone (in the best possible way of course). Nice looking knife although probably a bit premium for my tastes :P
It’s a beautiful knife but not sure about the legality of a flipper, I will wait for the v2 which I believe has thumb studs .
True, the law is very vague about it, Carl has double checked with customs but as you say, the V2 with studs is coming along anyway.
It’s legal as long as it’s not an assisted flipper. The law isn’t vague, it’s actually fairly clear
@@toziassmitt So what qualifys as an assisted flipper?
@@GG-ml3vr any flipper which uses a spring. That’s the assisted part
Great review, mine turned up today waahòo. But just my 2 cents on the pocket clip issue I also have the titanium luna which has an even thinner clip and have no rubbing issues with that. But not the end of the world its a knife and I'm sure I will get more dinks and scratches giving it some loving character.
How do you open it? My Luna has rubbed (though admittedly not as bad), it won't naturally rub if you open it with two hands but using a thumbstud still pushes on it,
@@UKLegalCarryKnives
I too also,use thumb stud bought a luna eco and took stud off, I use a pinch grip around handle with thumb and forefinger and when blade is lifted enough use thumb to fully open.if that makes sense.
@@ScottMProductions29 to be fair I had a look at mine today and it turns out the Luna is made of steel rather than Ti, that might lend to it's better strength.
@@Squivels very possible.
My review will be up later, as my post has just been delivered (1pm)!
It'll be very interesting to hear your thoughts!
Website says 2.9" cutting edge. What is the full length of the blade?
3" exactly full length of the blade
@@UKLegalCarryKnives hmm, cutting it fine. 😇 Legislation says under 3" - and I'm not sure the "cutting edge" argument stands up in court.
@@UKLegalCarryKnives please cover this in your first review.
Not sure why you think the cutting edge thing wouldn't stand up in court, Section 139 of the offensive weapons act specifically says cutting edge, it does not mention blade length.
@@alcw6346 ua-cam.com/video/5bVknOv19_w/v-deo.html&lc=UgwadhSTXy3Q6JR9-Rp4AaABAg.9KGFDd_fTC79KJFU-B6CUB
Quote from the comments from a barrister in the above video:
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Firstly, the Act does not define a "cutting edge", which is one source of your frustration, but this has been broadly defined by the Court of Appeal Criminal Division in R v Davies [1998] Crim LR 564 as "an article with a blade that falls within the same broad category as a knife or sharply pointed instrument.”
Your suggestion that I rephrase the wording is, with respect, misconceived, because your conclusion on your understanding is that "[you] can think of several, legal, non locking, pocket knifes on the market that have 80mm 'blades', but perfectly lawful 75mm 'cutting edges'." - which is not correct. If the "blade" of a folding pocketnife (including both sharp and dull portions) is 80mm in length, this exceeds 3 inches and you cannot assume they are legal to carry in public as you have asserted. This was also considered by the High Court in Charles Brooker v Director of Public Prosecutions [2005] EWHC 1132 (Admin) in which Lord Justice Laws ruled as follows:
"In my judgment we should create a great mischief if we construed this statute so as to invite argument, in case after case, as to whether or not the object in question was sharp."
Secondly, the exemption in s.139 CJA 1988 isn't defined as "a sub 3" non locking", it is defined as "a folding pocketknife" which is not the same thing - both of which have been further refined and interpreted by the courts.
I like it! A bit Luna-esque on first appearance but that's no bad thing.
That’s lovely looking
Looks like the bearings run directly against the titanium scales (rather than a steel surface), is that a potential issue for future wearing? Thanks.
This is a much debated issue in the knife community, the main counterpoint being, there haven't been any issues/recalls yet, have a read through this forum to get an idea for the scope of this debate: www.bladeforums.com/threads/bearings-on-titanium.1618596/ personally, I think it's fine, If a widespread issue crops up though, I'd be happy to hold my hands up and say I was wrong.
Good to see you buddy, always enjoy your reviews... haven't seen you for a while, hope alls well - great review! Atb Gus 👍
Thank you very much! Great to hear you're enjoying them, my output has slowed only due to work recently, hopefully it'll slow down in Jan and I'll be able to up my channel output again.
Great channel. Don’t suppose anyone knows a U.K. crafty who can make me some custom scales for a UKPK please? Thanks Nick
VP creations, they have a website. Used them multiple times, they take a bit of time to turn around cause it’s all custom made (couple of weeks) but very good. They do aluminium, titanium, all the like
Not BAD but not as good as my victorinox 🇨🇭 sorry those old Swiss army knifes just keeps on giving an giving Swiss made like a tank thanks for sharing this one with us 👍🏻
SAKs are incredible for sure! Very versatile tools, very easy to carry too, always have a classic SD on my keychain.
Definitely not legal in Uk
Please can you highlight the legislation the advises this?
@@UKLegalCarryKnives because it’s a flipper knife init
@@knots7962 I think you're confusing flipper and flick knife, so long as it isn't automatic, there's nothing I've seen that prohibits non locking, 3" or less knives with flipper tabs.
Just my opinion, I won't buy detent. Environmentally I'd prefer a cardboard box. Sorry.
Even with a kick to keep the blade open? To each their own.
Plz