I never dreamed the arrow would travel as well as they did through any of the obstructions. I figured (my luck) if the arrow skimmed a mosquito, the arrow would deflect straight up and end up hitting a kitten at a homeless shelter 😂
Really difficult to do, but it would be awesome to have a chronograph on one side to see how much FPS the arrow loses too vs no brush. It is our job when hunting to put the animal down as humanly as possible so this is great info to know may the situation arise. Thanks guys!
I don't know why yall get so much hate just cause yall don't pretend that hunting is easy and use what's trending you give real advice thanks for the great content.
@@Vinnys_vidsthey use tethrd gear, some wear first lite. Heavy single bevels are the in thing! I get what you are trying to say though. They are realistic average guys who do the shit U.S. average guys do.
Very useful information. I definitely agree a follow up video with different platforms and weights in mind would be incredible to see. Keep up the great work THP!
There is a silver lining with traditional equipment. I think Fred Bear made mention of this years ago. There are some hunting situations where lobbing an arrow is an advantage over a flat shooting arrow. I was looking at a deer across a weedy field at about 30 yards with sporadic weeds 3 to 5 feet tall. I did not take the shot because of so many weeds between me and the deer's vitals. As I was driving home, it dawned on me that I could have taken the shot because at that distance my arrow drops 24 inches and most of the arrow path arc would have been ABOVE the weeds until it almost arrived at the deer's location. Granted, 30 yards is a long shot for traditional equipment, but weeds may have not been the reason for passing on the shot.
I can’t remember which show it was, but I think it was a mule deer hunt where they basically put the pin on a large branch knowing at the distance it would arc over it. They got the deer.
Great job on the arrow deflection results but now I would like to see this done with the brush closer to the target. I noticed on some of your thicker brush the arrow would kick out but then stabilize before it hit the target and you hit your mark. I'm thinking with the thick brush closer to the target you are going to get some really bad angles and off target results. Keep up the great work you all do!!!
I’m glad y’all did this. I’ve been meaning to for years. In 2019 I shot a buck at 12 yards broadside, and there was a dead twig (half the diameter of my pinky) within arms reach, but outside my field of view. I realized afterwards my pins & sight housing was 3.5” higher than my arrow... The dead twig was never in my view After the shot, I never saw my lighted nock. I ended up hitting the buck in the back ham, resulting in an intestine/leg shot. Tracked the buck 3.5 miles with 2 different blood dogs. Broadhead was a slick trick Magnum.
The RF comment near the end is exactly what i was thinking.. the part 2 with different platforms. My mind was thinking compare a 550, 650, 750 platform w/ high FOC to "standard" arrows, standard inserts, 100 gr heads. TAW i hear as common is between 420-480 with 440 and 480 heard the most from a variety of videos I've watched over the last few years since my RF rabbit hole opened.
I would be interested in seeing a crossbow thrown into the mix. I know you guys don't crossbow hunt or have anyone on the THP team who does but for those of us that do it'd be useful info!
Aaron made a really good point about trajectory impacting penetration. Be nice to compare ballistic gel penetration between a clean flight arrow and an obstructed arrow. Also add some expandables with different deployment styles. I seen some crazy deflections in those forward swept blades that have to swing open, like Grim Reapers, rather than be pushed open like the Rages. Either way, great content. Thanks for the info.
Started watching back in 2020 and couldn’t be more appreciative of the content. Saved up and finally bought a bow and will be bow hunting for the first time this year!! All videos with the old rf have helped tremendously in my arrow selection just starting out.
I would have thought even the softer "weedier" brush would still deflect enough that it wouldn't be worth taking a shot. I might be a little more adventurous now after watching this video. Great content fellas👍👍👍
You guys beat us to this idea! We wanted to do the same testing on our channel. Great video showcasing arrow flight. We wanted to do a future video showcasing different penetration after going through the brush. Maybe it’s something you guys could help us out with or make a collaborative effort! Keep up the great content.
I quit shooting rages after 2 complete misses at 30 yards with my crossbow. (This was when they had rubber o-rings) The third one that failed was during practice and I was able to figure out that one of the blades deployed during the shot and I saw it corkscrew through the air. Went back to them when they came out with the plastic clips and haven't had a problem since. Awesome testing guys! Gives me a little more confidence in the river bottom that I hunt.
I had two clean misses the same way with rages. The arrows were basically doing summersaults and you could hear the flapping sounding in the are of the deployed mechanical blades. The arrows did not hit anything in flight, the rubber o-rings just failed. Heartbreaking. To be fair, mechanicals don't use that junk rubber O-ring crap anymore. That said, I've been a lot happier using a single bevel over the last 4 seasons.
@@SeanJRoberts I have a reminder every time I hunt about one of my clean misses on an 8 point. It is sticking in a tree about 40 feet off the ground (over a huge hill going down to the river).
Bow hunting in the 90s in south Texas, there’s a lot of cedar. I shot at a nice 10 point buck on what I thought was a clear shot. The arrow hit vines that were hanging between the trees and took off for space. I found it at the end of the season. Those vines were barely visible, and not very big, but redirected an aluminum 2216 with a 125gr Rocky Mountain broadhead. Science.
I don’t know about arrows, but I do know about bullets. Brush, no matter how big small or thick or thin. Devastating. I would think arrows would be even more so. ?? Interesting topic. 👍👍
Ranch Fairy love hearing you on other channels where you seem to be just you rather than on your own channel and well I completely different personality. The information and knowledge is always top notch.
I had an experience with deflection . I was shooting at a buck at 30 yards watch that Luma nock flying perfect towards that vital v about 5 yards before it hit the deer Luma nock disappeared watched the deer go of like ten yards and not even 30 seconds later it was swaying and waging its tail watch it walked of another 30 or so yards heard it bed down waited 2 hours checked the arrow it had barely any blood on it but the blood trail looked awesome went 20 yards could see the deer dead. That arrow deflection pushed that arrow so far off course I hit the furmoral arterie in its opposing side of a broadside shot. So nothing but luck getting that deer. But I am shocked that even thick grass didn't deflect the arrow more than it did. Great video guys. Keep up the good work guys on showing us this stuff.
Great video. I hunt inna lot of goldenrod and this video gave me some great advice. Trying different arrow weights and spine will be cool, but perhaps a video of shots through brush a little further than right out of the bow.
What a great video. This is the second time I watch one of your videos and I rethink my hunting. The other was mechanical broadhead, which I stopped using since. Great work, guys.
Love the channel!! Might I suggest next time, put a slow-Mo camera above and behind the target pointed at the shooter. Might be an interesting perspective to watch the fight of the arrow.
It's not just the wieght. It's the FOC, that's why Flys straight. With the center of balance (the pivot while in flight), so close to the point, the fletching act more like drag and less like "steering".
Note that green vegetation cuts easier than dry vegetation. I’d be interested to see this test after the first frost to show how it would deflect during hunting season.
The vanes contacting the brush certainly look to be causing some of the movement away from the shot line. You wonder if feathers would have larger or smaller deviations.
I used heavy double bevel set up last fall and one of the deer I shot I hit a branch before the deer causing it to have that back end kick out. It actually still went through the deer completely. But… it went in where I aimed by shoulder and went out the belly closer to the back side. It ended up going in the angle it kicked out. Not ideal but I did get 1 lung and it got the guts. I did recover the deer after some tracking.
I’ve been doing this kind of testing with my setup too. 33ish % foc @ 720gr rf single bevel. Seeing very little difference till start in to the heavier drier stems. Keep up the good work
This is great information, I've nicked a branch or two in my day...lol 😂 I used mechanicals for years, until ya'll R/D some Ranch Fairy broadheads. Thanks for the testing. 😊
I'm curious to know if longer arrows or shorter arrows make a difference. Does my 27" draw friend have an easier or harder time with shooting through things than I do with me 33.5" draw?
@@ItsDburch that's my assumption as well. Makes the most sense. But does the stabilizers being further away help refocus the flight quicker somehow given enough time? (I still think no... But I've been wrong before)
QUESTION….If using either a single bevel or the double like the stinger, is there a recommended size vane? I currently have the 125 stinger w/ 2” blazer vanes.
Finally someone tests this, you don't want to try this out in the field. I had a Buck this year I passed on because I was shooting through some tall grass, now I am kicking myself!
Back in the day. I used 2019. 25 inch. With over draw. Know that's old. But i was able to shoot thru scrub Oaks all the time. My buddy's was not able to with the 21 and 23. Thickness of shafts that would bend and deflect all the time
Ive always been super scared of shooting one of the flappers with the rubber bands through stuff like this. I just figured its like a little V sticking out front the can catch stuff. Cut on contact makes more sense to be able to slice its way right through.
About 25 years ago I was hunting elk and we were using aluminum shafts with 125 grain fixed blade. The shafts were on the light side because we wanted more speed. The elk was 13 yards away and slightly up hill. As I shot I did not see a very small branch. The arrow hit the branch deflected it down and under the elk. The bad thing that happened next is the elk stepped on the arrow bending it. Elk survived the arrow did not.
I’ve had a single stalk of wheat deflect my arrow. Clear as day hit the stalk and instantly veered right. But. At the time. I was using twister broad heads.
Fellows, love your channel great advice as always but on this I want to suggest you more carefully consider laws of motion (energy) and how a spinning stabilizing mass widens it center of gravity with centrifugal courses much like a gyro does. Imagine a kids top, when spinning is balanced and stable BECAUSE it’s spinning. The spin of arrow fights induced instability… notice the point pretty much pegs the center even after worse wood deflection tests? Perhaps if you wanted to insure more stabilization therefor accuracy through brush you could impart greater spin with stiffer or larger veins?
I think stiffer vanes would deflect more, catching the brush more and causing more destabilization, but then maybe larger feathers akin to fluflu arrows might be more beneficial?
You talked about it in the video, so it would be interesting to see how the arrow deflects when you hit a twig or brush at the end of the shot rather than from the beginning. Like when Aaron hit the twig at then end just before impact on the buck. Also, I shoot a crossbow. How would the impact be different using that instead of a compound bow? Either scenerio.
Hey guys love your stuff. Some of us old timers have had to go to crossbows. For various reasons. How about a show for us, with crossbows, that is. And I'm not an old-timer, might have some issues thou. lol.😵💫🤪
Years ago I had a doe broadside at 15 yards. Unbeknownst to me, there was some sort of woody plant stem, about 1/8” in diameter, in between me and her. I didn’t see it at all. What I did see though, was my arrow deflect and go right over her back and continue on an upward angle over a tree line 75 yards away, to God only knows where. It was a big lesson for me and I learned from it immediately.
To sum up, energy loss and change of angle at penetration. And I think this happens a lot more than people think because most of our shots are at dusk and low light and we're shooting through twigs that we can't see until full light. Especially in the fall and late season when everything is the same color and there are no leaves.
Great experiment! I’ve killed a couple bucks through a little golden rod.. I know it’s not ideal had they not been as big as they were I would’ve not pulled my bow back.. I lucked out twice probably won’t do it again hard to still hunt with bad knees ..
I tried shooting through brush for fun last weekend, I lost an arrow. 395 grain/ 9.6 FOC. It was gooonneee ! Rocket in the air into a overgrown fence line lol
There isn't enough time in a day, but would love to see how they perform with obstruction being different distances from the target as well! Especially if the obstruction is 2-6 feet in front of the target on a lets say 20 yard shot. I would think the arrow will hold more true with less time to get crazy, but maybe not.
This exact thing happened to me shooting a deer from a ground blind. It was dusk and super quiet so I could hear the arrow smack a stick I missed in my shooting lane cleanup. Deflected pretty good. Got the deer, but i was lucky the broadhead hit the major veins of the neck. Much more careful about low hanging twigs now.
When I was like 14 I was hunting with my dad. We sat until around 10:30 and I got pretty bored so I wanted to get down, despite him wanting to sit another hour. I lowered my bow, and right as I put my foot on the ground 3 does came sprinting into our setup (of course). I was able to get my bow untied, nock an arrow, and get my release clipped on, and then the momma doe picked me off and ran behind this giant bushy collection of plants that had grown and died between two trees. I drew my bow and I could see the deer at around 20 yards RIGHT on the other side of the brushy stuff. So I just centered the pin and shot and, no joke, the branches literally caught my arrow mid flight. Just lost all of its energy in the big net of branches and twigs and didn't even make it through, just got stuck. And I was shooting a fixed 4 blade muzzy broadhead. I was only pulling 60lbs because I was 14 but still, I don't shoot through anything at all anymore. It's either an open shot or I'm waiting, unless I absolutely am positive my arrow will make it easily through the obstruction. Bows just aren't made for it. Like ranch fairy said, your arrow really is trying its best to not fly straight, any small obstruction will disrupt the flight path catastrophically. I shot a doe last year at 30 yards from my saddle and hit her right behind the ribs. I wasn't sure why I was so far back until I watch the footage and saw that I hit a branch that was almost entirely invisible to the naked eye. It was directly between me and the deer. So in about 15 yards I had nearly a foot and a half of deflection after hitting a tiny, invisible branch.
Would like to see if you are further from the brush before it hits the target, how much it affects the shot. Even bring the target closer to the brush.
How wonderful, now everyone and their brother will shoot through brush and tall grass after watching this video. This video also gives those on the fence more confidence to take those questionable shots and wound more deer. Great job!
My thoughts exactly. We've all had mishaps with that unseen twig, but intentionally letting an arrow loose through heavy brush is just downright unethical in my opinion.
I never dreamed the arrow would travel as well as they did through any of the obstructions. I figured (my luck) if the arrow skimmed a mosquito, the arrow would deflect straight up and end up hitting a kitten at a homeless shelter 😂
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Exact thing happened to me in the 2018 season
Really difficult to do, but it would be awesome to have a chronograph on one side to see how much FPS the arrow loses too vs no brush.
It is our job when hunting to put the animal down as humanly as possible so this is great info to know may the situation arise. Thanks guys!
I don't know why yall get so much hate just cause yall don't pretend that hunting is easy and use what's trending you give real advice thanks for the great content.
Cause fakers are faker then haters hate, and they can't stand honesty either way
If it was easy. Everyone would be doing it! Hunting =not east!!
You do realize that heavy fixed is trending right?
I know but they don't have a phase 4 or a UV sight...... They don't go along with all the new trends like everyone else.
@@Vinnys_vidsthey use tethrd gear, some wear first lite. Heavy single bevels are the in thing!
I get what you are trying to say though. They are realistic average guys who do the shit U.S. average guys do.
Very useful information. I definitely agree a follow up video with different platforms and weights in mind would be incredible to see. Keep up the great work THP!
There is a silver lining with traditional equipment. I think Fred Bear made mention of this years ago. There are some hunting situations where lobbing an arrow is an advantage over a flat shooting arrow. I was looking at a deer across a weedy field at about 30 yards with sporadic weeds 3 to 5 feet tall. I did not take the shot because of so many weeds between me and the deer's vitals. As I was driving home, it dawned on me that I could have taken the shot because at that distance my arrow drops 24 inches and most of the arrow path arc would have been ABOVE the weeds until it almost arrived at the deer's location. Granted, 30 yards is a long shot for traditional equipment, but weeds may have not been the reason for passing on the shot.
I can’t remember which show it was, but I think it was a mule deer hunt where they basically put the pin on a large branch knowing at the distance it would arc over it. They got the deer.
Great job on the arrow deflection results but now I would like to see this done with the brush closer to the target. I noticed on some of your thicker brush the arrow would kick out but then stabilize before it hit the target and you hit your mark. I'm thinking with the thick brush closer to the target you are going to get some really bad angles and off target results. Keep up the great work you all do!!!
I’m glad y’all did this. I’ve been meaning to for years.
In 2019 I shot a buck at 12 yards broadside, and there was a dead twig (half the diameter of my pinky) within arms reach, but outside my field of view.
I realized afterwards my pins & sight housing was 3.5” higher than my arrow... The dead twig was never in my view
After the shot, I never saw my lighted nock. I ended up hitting the buck in the back ham, resulting in an intestine/leg shot. Tracked the buck 3.5 miles with 2 different blood dogs.
Broadhead was a slick trick Magnum.
The RF comment near the end is exactly what i was thinking.. the part 2 with different platforms.
My mind was thinking compare a 550, 650, 750 platform w/ high FOC to "standard" arrows, standard inserts, 100 gr heads. TAW i hear as common is between 420-480 with 440 and 480 heard the most from a variety of videos I've watched over the last few years since my RF rabbit hole opened.
Wieght is secondary to FOC when it comes to keeping a disrupted arrow flying towards the point of aim.
I would be interested in seeing a crossbow thrown into the mix.
I know you guys don't crossbow hunt or have anyone on the THP team who does but for those of us that do it'd be useful info!
Seeing how the cross bow has so much more kinetic energy I’d think it would deflect less
Why take a shot through any vegetation at all ?
Having said that , The Hunting Public is as candid as it gets !
Aaron made a really good point about trajectory impacting penetration. Be nice to compare ballistic gel penetration between a clean flight arrow and an obstructed arrow.
Also add some expandables with different deployment styles. I seen some crazy deflections in those forward swept blades that have to swing open, like Grim Reapers, rather than be pushed open like the Rages.
Either way, great content. Thanks for the info.
Started watching back in 2020 and couldn’t be more appreciative of the content. Saved up and finally bought a bow and will be bow hunting for the first time this year!! All videos with the old rf have helped tremendously in my arrow selection just starting out.
Nice to see Zack is back
I would have thought even the softer "weedier" brush would still deflect enough that it wouldn't be worth taking a shot. I might be a little more adventurous now after watching this video. Great content fellas👍👍👍
Would love to see more practical/scenario-based testing like this #trustthewhitecoats
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You guys beat us to this idea! We wanted to do the same testing on our channel. Great video showcasing arrow flight. We wanted to do a future video showcasing different penetration after going through the brush. Maybe it’s something you guys could help us out with or make a collaborative effort! Keep up the great content.
I quit shooting rages after 2 complete misses at 30 yards with my crossbow. (This was when they had rubber o-rings) The third one that failed was during practice and I was able to figure out that one of the blades deployed during the shot and I saw it corkscrew through the air. Went back to them when they came out with the plastic clips and haven't had a problem since.
Awesome testing guys! Gives me a little more confidence in the river bottom that I hunt.
I had two clean misses the same way with rages. The arrows were basically doing summersaults and you could hear the flapping sounding in the are of the deployed mechanical blades. The arrows did not hit anything in flight, the rubber o-rings just failed. Heartbreaking. To be fair, mechanicals don't use that junk rubber O-ring crap anymore.
That said, I've been a lot happier using a single bevel over the last 4 seasons.
@@SeanJRoberts I have a reminder every time I hunt about one of my clean misses on an 8 point. It is sticking in a tree about 40 feet off the ground (over a huge hill going down to the river).
Yes! I’ve been wanting to see this tested! Thanks!
Bow hunting in the 90s in south Texas, there’s a lot of cedar. I shot at a nice 10 point buck on what I thought was a clear shot. The arrow hit vines that were hanging between the trees and took off for space. I found it at the end of the season. Those vines were barely visible, and not very big, but redirected an aluminum 2216 with a 125gr Rocky Mountain broadhead. Science.
I don’t know about arrows, but I do know about bullets. Brush, no matter how big small or thick or thin. Devastating. I would think arrows would be even more so. ?? Interesting topic. 👍👍
I love seeing the fletchings steer back to center after the deflection
Fellas I'm am thoroughly enjoying the tips slash hunting experiments this summer. Much appreciated tons of fun!!!
Ranch Fairy love hearing you on other channels where you seem to be just you rather than on your own channel and well I completely different personality. The information and knowledge is always top notch.
I had an experience with deflection . I was shooting at a buck at 30 yards watch that Luma nock flying perfect towards that vital v about 5 yards before it hit the deer Luma nock disappeared watched the deer go of like ten yards and not even 30 seconds later it was swaying and waging its tail watch it walked of another 30 or so yards heard it bed down waited 2 hours checked the arrow it had barely any blood on it but the blood trail looked awesome went 20 yards could see the deer dead. That arrow deflection pushed that arrow so far off course I hit the furmoral arterie in its opposing side of a broadside shot. So nothing but luck getting that deer. But I am shocked that even thick grass didn't deflect the arrow more than it did. Great video guys. Keep up the good work guys on showing us this stuff.
Keep up the good work guys! Love watching your videos. 11 more weeks till deer season here!
Great video. I hunt inna lot of goldenrod and this video gave me some great advice. Trying different arrow weights and spine will be cool, but perhaps a video of shots through brush a little further than right out of the bow.
I find you guys fascinating with your love of bowhunting. Lot of information you give us.....Thanks
Love the Ranch Fairy Colab vidja's! God Bless ya'all!
Great little study.
Thanks for the show
What a great video. This is the second time I watch one of your videos and I rethink my hunting. The other was mechanical broadhead, which I stopped using since. Great work, guys.
This is a great video on arrow flight…more testing guys I love it..
Great work! Very informative
You guys keep getting better and better over the years seems like. My favorites to watch are Aaron, Ted, Jake, and Greg.
Could you run the same test with a target that measures kinetic impact? It would be cool to see how the grass effects it.
My interest is definitely been peaked on wether a heavy arrow corrects faster than a lighter arrow
Love the channel!!
Might I suggest next time, put a slow-Mo camera above and behind the target pointed at the shooter. Might be an interesting perspective to watch the fight of the arrow.
Sending thanks from Western Oregon. You are helping me out a crap ton. Keep up the good work.
Do heavier arrows correct better than lighter arrows? I think you have another test to try.
It's not just the wieght. It's the FOC, that's why Flys straight. With the center of balance (the pivot while in flight), so close to the point, the fletching act more like drag and less like "steering".
Great information need more stuff like this on the off season
Note that green vegetation cuts easier than dry vegetation. I’d be interested to see this test after the first frost to show how it would deflect during hunting season.
The vanes contacting the brush certainly look to be causing some of the movement away from the shot line. You wonder if feathers would have larger or smaller deviations.
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I used heavy double bevel set up last fall and one of the deer I shot I hit a branch before the deer causing it to have that back end kick out. It actually still went through the deer completely. But… it went in where I aimed by shoulder and went out the belly closer to the back side. It ended up going in the angle it kicked out. Not ideal but I did get 1 lung and it got the guts. I did recover the deer after some tracking.
I’ve been doing this kind of testing with my setup too. 33ish % foc @ 720gr rf single bevel. Seeing very little difference till start in to the heavier drier stems. Keep up the good work
This is great information, I've nicked a branch or two in my day...lol 😂 I used mechanicals for years, until ya'll R/D some Ranch Fairy broadheads. Thanks for the testing. 😊
Excellent video and analysis.
Great test.
I'm curious to know if longer arrows or shorter arrows make a difference. Does my 27" draw friend have an easier or harder time with shooting through things than I do with me 33.5" draw?
Shorter will be better, but only because of the higher FOC. Assuming all other things are equal.
@@ItsDburch that's my assumption as well. Makes the most sense. But does the stabilizers being further away help refocus the flight quicker somehow given enough time? (I still think no... But I've been wrong before)
QUESTION….If using either a single bevel or the double like the stinger, is there a recommended size vane?
I currently have the 125 stinger w/ 2” blazer vanes.
Finally someone tests this, you don't want to try this out in the field. I had a Buck this year I passed on because I was shooting through some tall grass, now I am kicking myself!
Back in the day. I used 2019. 25 inch. With over draw. Know that's old. But i was able to shoot thru scrub Oaks all the time. My buddy's was not able to with the 21 and 23. Thickness of shafts that would bend and deflect all the time
Ive always been super scared of shooting one of the flappers with the rubber bands through stuff like this. I just figured its like a little V sticking out front the can catch stuff. Cut on contact makes more sense to be able to slice its way right through.
About 25 years ago I was hunting elk and we were using aluminum shafts with 125 grain fixed blade. The shafts were on the light side because we wanted more speed. The elk was 13 yards away and slightly up hill. As I shot I did not see a very small branch. The arrow hit the branch deflected it down and under the elk. The bad thing that happened next is the elk stepped on the arrow bending it. Elk survived the arrow did not.
I’ve had a single stalk of wheat deflect my arrow. Clear as day hit the stalk and instantly veered right.
But. At the time. I was using twister broad heads.
Fellows, love your channel great advice as always but on this I want to suggest you more carefully consider laws of motion (energy) and how a spinning stabilizing mass widens it center of gravity with centrifugal courses much like a gyro does. Imagine a kids top, when spinning is balanced and stable BECAUSE it’s spinning.
The spin of arrow fights induced instability… notice the point pretty much pegs the center even after worse wood deflection tests?
Perhaps if you wanted to insure more stabilization therefor accuracy through brush you could impart greater spin with stiffer or larger veins?
I think stiffer vanes would deflect more, catching the brush more and causing more destabilization, but then maybe larger feathers akin to fluflu arrows might be more beneficial?
@@whodoyouthinkiam210 good idea to consider in further tests.
You talked about it in the video, so it would be interesting to see how the arrow deflects when you hit a twig or brush at the end of the shot rather than from the beginning. Like when Aaron hit the twig at then end just before impact on the buck. Also, I shoot a crossbow. How would the impact be different using that instead of a compound bow? Either scenerio.
These are awesome videos. Very good information. Thank you guys.
Hey guys love your stuff. Some of us old timers have had to go to crossbows. For various reasons. How about a show for us, with crossbows, that is. And I'm not an old-timer, might have some issues thou. lol.😵💫🤪
I’m surprised at how well those arrows flew! It would be interesting to see how lighter arrows fare.
Great testing
This is great info
Great information
love the realness
Good stuff boys! I always enjoy your videos with 'ole RF. Can't wait to see what's next.
I noticed the Fairys arrow, started to pull itself back straight before hitting the target!
Years ago I had a doe broadside at 15 yards. Unbeknownst to me, there was some sort of woody plant stem, about 1/8” in diameter, in between me and her. I didn’t see it at all.
What I did see though, was my arrow deflect and go right over her back and continue on an upward angle over a tree line 75 yards away, to God only knows where.
It was a big lesson for me and I learned from it immediately.
To sum up, energy loss and change of angle at penetration.
And I think this happens a lot more than people think because most of our shots are at dusk and low light and we're shooting through twigs that we can't see until full light. Especially in the fall and late season when everything is the same color and there are no leaves.
Great video! I’m sure there are some couch pirates in here voicing their opinions. Y’all are out there getting data and results. Enough said!!
I like that new guy Zach😊
I love to see heavier arrows take on those weedy bushes.
These arrows are all between 550-650
And have higher FOC, which is the main reason they fly where aimed once disrupted.
It would be interesting to see if a large variance in FOC would affect how much the tail wobble affects the point of impact after hitting a limb.
Great experiment! I’ve killed a couple bucks through a little golden rod.. I know it’s not ideal had they not been as big as they were I would’ve not pulled my bow back.. I lucked out twice probably won’t do it again hard to still hunt with bad knees ..
Very interesting
Nice work😊
Tremendous work! Keep it up boys!
Keep up the great work! Thanks guys
I tried shooting through brush for fun last weekend, I lost an arrow. 395 grain/ 9.6 FOC. It was gooonneee ! Rocket in the air into a overgrown fence line lol
There isn't enough time in a day, but would love to see how they perform with obstruction being different distances from the target as well! Especially if the obstruction is 2-6 feet in front of the target on a lets say 20 yard shot. I would think the arrow will hold more true with less time to get crazy, but maybe not.
Did you test different FOC arrows? I think the high FOC will pull the broadhead to the target, but less FOC may not pull that well.
Well, I'm going fishing tomorrow. LOL
I dare y’all to try and public hunt NC that will show how good you guys are
This exact thing happened to me shooting a deer from a ground blind. It was dusk and super quiet so I could hear the arrow smack a stick I missed in my shooting lane cleanup. Deflected pretty good. Got the deer, but i was lucky the broadhead hit the major veins of the neck. Much more careful about low hanging twigs now.
Keep up the videos, fellas great stuff
When I was like 14 I was hunting with my dad. We sat until around 10:30 and I got pretty bored so I wanted to get down, despite him wanting to sit another hour. I lowered my bow, and right as I put my foot on the ground 3 does came sprinting into our setup (of course). I was able to get my bow untied, nock an arrow, and get my release clipped on, and then the momma doe picked me off and ran behind this giant bushy collection of plants that had grown and died between two trees. I drew my bow and I could see the deer at around 20 yards RIGHT on the other side of the brushy stuff. So I just centered the pin and shot and, no joke, the branches literally caught my arrow mid flight. Just lost all of its energy in the big net of branches and twigs and didn't even make it through, just got stuck. And I was shooting a fixed 4 blade muzzy broadhead. I was only pulling 60lbs because I was 14 but still, I don't shoot through anything at all anymore. It's either an open shot or I'm waiting, unless I absolutely am positive my arrow will make it easily through the obstruction. Bows just aren't made for it. Like ranch fairy said, your arrow really is trying its best to not fly straight, any small obstruction will disrupt the flight path catastrophically. I shot a doe last year at 30 yards from my saddle and hit her right behind the ribs. I wasn't sure why I was so far back until I watch the footage and saw that I hit a branch that was almost entirely invisible to the naked eye. It was directly between me and the deer. So in about 15 yards I had nearly a foot and a half of deflection after hitting a tiny, invisible branch.
It would be interesting to see the reduction in velocity by the time it hit the target.
Would like to see if you are further from the brush before it hits the target, how much it affects the shot. Even bring the target closer to the brush.
Good stuff. Y’all are awesome!
that was really good even if arrow gets to mark no energy
Round 2 : shoot with target closer to shrubs and you backed off the shrubs to let the arrow fly. Great video guy
What brand of target are you using to stop the broadheads ?
Cool video 😎
Good content as always boys
holy smokes that first arrow shot in slow mo flew HORRIBLE out of the bow lol wow
Great video…
I hit a green briar one time a few feet from the deer arrow deflected enough that hit the neck just in front of shoulder and came out behind its ear.
Great video!!
Awesome video!
How wonderful, now everyone and their brother will shoot through brush and tall grass after watching this video. This video also gives those on the fence more confidence to take those questionable shots and wound more deer. Great job!
My thoughts exactly. We've all had mishaps with that unseen twig, but intentionally letting an arrow loose through heavy brush is just downright unethical in my opinion.
Are you guys still using Vector/Method Archery?