Trucking: Are There Tax Benefits to Leasing over Buying?

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  • Опубліковано 17 лип 2024
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    @tommyrivera4204 3 роки тому +1

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  • @YouDriveUSuccess
    @YouDriveUSuccess 3 роки тому +3

    One important note, a highway tractor is depreciated over 3 years, not 5. Also, there are other methods to write of the depreciation rather than straight line, such as a declining balance method. You also have the option to not write off the full amount and instead write off up to a salvage value of the equipment. This can help avoid paying capital gains taxes if you sell it later on so the sale won't be recognized as a profit. These various methods give you a lot more flexibility to write of the money in the way that benefits you the most vs leasing you must write it off as you spend it.
    Also important to note, if you do finance the truck, any interest you pay us also written off. That portion is not part of the depreciation amount but written of as an expense.

  • @lmbpilot7
    @lmbpilot7 3 роки тому +1

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  • @anacuesta733
    @anacuesta733 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much! It was because of this video that we made the decision to buy and not being stuck on the idea of leasing. Thank you so much

  • @sweetness2689
    @sweetness2689 3 роки тому

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  • @towannsmith5872
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    @j-profit3801 3 роки тому +1

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    @rogerlacy7999 3 роки тому

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  • @kyleallen1835
    @kyleallen1835 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you 🙏 researching section 179

  • @tamieleo12
    @tamieleo12 3 роки тому +4

    Great point! A tax professional is always the best way to go.
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  • @lubsey
    @lubsey 3 роки тому

    👍 great. And helpful.

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    @MarcP5267 3 роки тому +1

    What a combo, a truck driver and accountant.

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    @cundaliniblack 3 роки тому

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  • @carlosaguirre1313
    @carlosaguirre1313 3 роки тому

    David
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    @cmofam1 3 роки тому

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    @TruthAintPrettyYet 3 роки тому

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  • @matt0183
    @matt0183 3 роки тому +1

    This is true with a traditional operating lease, but you can find capital leases that let you put the truck on your balance sheet and allow you to take the depreciation.

    • @TruckingFromScratch
      @TruckingFromScratch  3 роки тому

      That would make the treatment of the lease the same as buying the equipment, which supports my original stance which is tax benefits should be ignored when considering lease vs. buy.

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    @everythingbyjohn 3 роки тому

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    @Nich_Pavelow 3 роки тому +1

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  • @1616044
    @1616044 3 роки тому

    As in all your presentations great information. But please correct me if I am wrong, in a lease your financials do not reflect a long term debt obligation as a purchase would. But I was not familiar with the section 179, I will read it over. Thanks again David.

  • @divinestrength1774
    @divinestrength1774 3 роки тому

    Welcome back man! I thought you went M.I.A after your truck caught fire lol

  • @MarcP5267
    @MarcP5267 3 роки тому +1

    Which is better though? If you lease and your truck breaks down don’t you get a replacement?

  • @finalout99
    @finalout99 3 роки тому

    Hello David,
    I hope you are healthy and doing well. May I ask, do you do personal taxes for company drivers? Or, can you recommend a CPA or someone who works with and has knowledge of filing W2 taxes? Much appreciated and thank you for all the videos and knowledge you put out on your channel. Much respect ✊🏼

    • @TruckingFromScratch
      @TruckingFromScratch  3 роки тому +1

      Hi, I’ll be updating my video descriptions very soon with that information. Thanks

  • @work_klean
    @work_klean 3 роки тому

    So do you prefer leasing or buying and why

  • @Wanderer25
    @Wanderer25 3 роки тому

    Great info. Now why would anyone lease a truck, pay the value of the truck, just to return the rental? What am I missing here?

  • @Jerseytrucker911
    @Jerseytrucker911 3 роки тому +1

    Correct me if im wrong, but depreciation is only for 3 years not 5?

  • @davidrobinson8396
    @davidrobinson8396 3 роки тому +1

    What if I’m renting from Penske that’s a write off too ??

  • @stephenbuckley5273
    @stephenbuckley5273 3 роки тому

    Does yours website give applicable coaching tips for those who are looking to buy and use cargo vans as opposed to box trucks and 18 wheelers? @DavidMcGill

  • @brianburns7211
    @brianburns7211 3 роки тому

    If you finance, can the interest be deducted too?

  • @carlosc8465
    @carlosc8465 3 роки тому

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  • @dontworryaboutit9655
    @dontworryaboutit9655 3 роки тому +4

    Brother, I've been subscribed to your channel, and get all notifications, fora long time now... I enjoy your content... At least, 70% of my trucking knowledge comes from you. And I appreciate it. Im told I won't really find a financing being I have zero experience in the business.. I got my llc. Money ,$20+k,ready go. And I'm stuck.. anything you can share with us to get around this. I know you don't drive either.

    • @okegs4real
      @okegs4real 3 роки тому +1

      Many good trucks at 20k range in the auctions

  • @claygerringer4963
    @claygerringer4963 3 роки тому

    If you decide to lease, can the total amount paid for the lease each year be deducted? In this example you can deduct the 52k in the first year. Does that apply for each year (52k each year) you are under lease with that truck or trailer?

  • @greatnessez3910
    @greatnessez3910 2 роки тому

    What do write offs do you don't get that write off money back so

  • @christianola7014
    @christianola7014 2 роки тому

    This is a good start, but please consider the opportunity costs associated with buying something outright compared to making an investment for 5 years that might earn a better rate of return. Throw in the lease payment loss and it might benefit owner operators to NOT buy it outright. Additionally, 2022 IRS allows up to only $25,000 for 179

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    @kihemcarter-bey3576 3 роки тому

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    @jimmiewilliams9997 3 роки тому

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  • @makedonprodukcija2188
    @makedonprodukcija2188 2 роки тому

    Theres one comon mistake everyones doing it
    First of all know your tax bracket (either you are llc c'corp or s'corp), lease a truck and put aside your % bracket from every check so right before the year ends cash out the truck, instead of just giving it away to the irs.
    Number 1 reason why small companies dont grow fast, nobody saves money throughot the year so they ends up owing tens of thousands next year which leads to instalment agreements
    THATS WHY YOU ARE BROKE ALL THE TIME :))))
    My tax bracket is %26.4 and I make litlle over 300k from a single truck each year. Instead of paying to the irs, i save 26.4 on each check and I cash out a leased truck December 31st

  • @masaiya1
    @masaiya1 3 роки тому

    Greetings, I have to file my taxes for the first time as an owner. Any tips for as write offs in diesel. Also my person car, mortgage. Glad your back bro. Thanks

    • @lifestream4191
      @lifestream4191 3 роки тому +5

      I strongly recommend you use an accountant familiar with trucking for the first year, and probably every year. However, you can use them the first year then do what they did after that... but you must keep up with and understand changes in the state and irs codes. Personally, I kept very good and organized records and my CPA gave me a good rate on handling my taxes.

    • @masaiya1
      @masaiya1 3 роки тому

      @@lifestream4191 Thanks for the info.

  • @Mori_Shands
    @Mori_Shands 3 роки тому +3

    David can you make a video on how you pay yourself? @David McGill

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  • @JD-dw1dr
    @JD-dw1dr 3 роки тому

    What about the FMV leases? These are not lease purchase.

    • @JD-dw1dr
      @JD-dw1dr 3 роки тому

      No after the fmv lease you return the truck for a new truck. And there is no balloon payment. You only pay for what you drive which is the depreciation

    • @JD-dw1dr
      @JD-dw1dr 3 роки тому

      I’m talking about the lease that most fleets opt for

  • @MrBNARick
    @MrBNARick 3 роки тому

    Not really helpful IMHO... there are DISTINCT advantages to leasing. In a purchase scenario whether you are using the IRSC rule 179 or the 5 year spread, the MAX you can right off is (in your example) $52,000. Whereas with the lease, you can write off the $52,000 EVERY tax season as long as you are paying lease payments.

    • @TruckingFromScratch
      @TruckingFromScratch  3 роки тому +1

      I'm not talking about any other advantages of leasing or buying. My only point is "tax benefit" is not an advantage of leasing & should be ignored in the lease vs. buying analysis.
      My example was getting as close to an "apples to apples" comparison as possible with the numbers. You are right, you can write off the $52k in lease payments every year, but then we would be comparing a $156k lease (assuming it's a 3 year lease) to a $52k purchase. If the truck costs $156k (just like the lease truck) then the MAX you can write off would be $156k.
      My original point still stands; TAX BENEFITS should be ignored when deciding whether to lease or buy.

    • @TruthAintPrettyYet
      @TruthAintPrettyYet 3 роки тому

      @@TruckingFromScratch 🔥

  • @RMNshare
    @RMNshare 3 роки тому +2

    You can not depreciate a seminover 5 years. You have to depreciate a semi over 36 months.
    Unless you pay cash for the semi using sec 179 to write off the entire truck is going to create a income matching issues. So others understand. if you spent 10k on truck payments the next year that 10k is mostly all taxable. You'll generally only be able to deduct the interest and most repairs. Furthermore sec 179 100% depreciation in the first year is being fazed out through the Trump Tax plan.
    I like your videos and I like the fact you're trying to help, but some of the tips you're giving is wrong.

    • @TruckingFromScratch
      @TruckingFromScratch  3 роки тому +1

      If it's 3 years, 5 years, or even 10 years, it doesn't change the point that using section 179 you can deduct the cost in the year of purchase.
      I'm not going to address the matching issue here because too much would go into explaining book/tax adjustments & why that doesn't create an issue.
      You said some of the tips I'm giving are wrong and the tips I gave were "lookup section 179" and "speak to an accountant or tax attorney". Thanks for the feedback though.

  • @jayjy1583
    @jayjy1583 2 роки тому

    Think you better update your videos with Brandon, I mean Biden in the big house to 82,000 for the same trucks.