Kingdom of the PLANET OF THE APES Saga - The RETURN of CAESAR Explained
Вставка
- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
- What's next after Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes? Get your Planet of the Apes Parody MERCH Here → "Oh Wait I Was Wrong" → screencrushmerch.com/products...
"What a Wonderful Day" → screencrushmerch.com/products...
Go here → screencrush.com/
TikTok → / screencrushnews
Like us → / screencrush
Follow us → / screencrushnews
Get our newsletter → screencrush.com/newsletter/
Written and Hosted by Colton Ogburn ( / coltonogburn )
Edited by Harriet Lengel-Enright, Randolf Nombrado, Brianna McLarty, and Lee Mazzio
#Planetoftheapes #Whatsnext - Фільми й анімація
Traveling back to the past to grab Caesar seems WAAAAAY out there for this more grounded franchise. The originals got really bonkers and weren’t mapped out ahead of time that’s why you got crazy plots like that. Hopefully those plots stay in the past.
Yeah I really want them to go a different direction
Only thing I can think of is the next trilogy after this one starts like that. With the apes jumping in a ship and heading to space just ti end up in a blackhole that leads them to earth back in 2011 before it all began.
yea fr, are they out of their mind?
I think it's very unlikely they'll do backwards time travel. Forward "time travel" is already possible, as explained in the video. the next two movies will be Noah's story and the third trilogy will be Taylor's story.
@John-oo8dn yeah I hope they bring William Taylor in. If they do, who should play him??
No more time travel. That's a terrible idea. Caesar's story is done. Let him RIP.
Agreed. I’m ready for the remake of the original movie.
I agree! The way you worded it though, I can't help but think of Caesar's remains being turned into a Beyblade 🤣😭
When that guy started going into that I was thinking “I could work at screen crush”. He basically hit us with a somehow palpatine returned then just went with it.
*_You took the words right out my mouth._*
@@explore.chill.frankie LMFAO
Literally they could end this saga with a remake of Planet of the Apes.
From the moment I saw that Rocket news cast back when Rise came out I also assumed that was the plan.
We don't need that at all yet
No they need to resolve it.
New trilogy beginning with a remake of original called Planet of The Apes: NOVA
@@Yanel5795stop. 🤣 🤣 🤣
@Abrakadabro666 you really dont like planet of the apes. What triggers you about it.
I took this video seriously up until when he said Ceasar will not only travel through time but also resurrect
Caesar = Moses, freeing his people from slavery (from the humans, enlightening them), parting the Red Sea (the avalanche in war) and leading them to the promise land, which he never gets to live in as he dies.
Moses is also known as the law giver as he gives the Ten Commandments, similar to Caesar instilling his own commandments that the apes should follow.
I’m glad someone said this. I came to the comments to say something similar
Exactly, he never got to see the promised land
And his people eventually pervert his words in historical fashion
Looking forward to the series moving forward, I hope Caesar’s descendant basically is the nice ones that helped Heston in the original movie
Right. Caesar had two commandments:
• Apes together string
• Ape not kill ape
Rakka knew and honored both. Proximus decided to ignore #2, to his detriment.
Biblically, Noah came first, but ape-wise, Moses came first.
Yep. He’s Moses, not Jesus.
Somehow...Caesar has returned...
Exactly!
😂😂😂😂😂. That was great!
Ridiculous plot. They're not gonna do that. Tell narrator to lay off the ecstasy.
Mae seriously got on my whole nerve in this movie.
dont many humans in this franchise lol
Bro is reaching for the top shelf with this one
He has a case of the tippy toes
I have to disagree with your Christ-figure analysis. Caesar's arc, from being rescued in a basket/raised by the Rulers of the Land, and then leads his people out of bandage, but is unable to enter the promised land because of a personal failure - is Moses. No Jesus required.
I PRAY these movies don't make it a time traveling one. It'll completely ruin it
I would rather them giving callbacks and esters eggs from the originals than actually going full on time travel just because it would make it confusing. Like maybe give us an open ended stuff that hints to that but is never confirmed
WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THIS!!!!
There was a scene in the movie where Noa explains that he saw a “light eating tunnel”!!!
Noah seems intent on making a peaceful existence between human and ape. May seems like our reluctant villain. I think this trilogy will explore her path to accepting this new world. That is a major plot point reinforced on screen by her conversations with trevathan and her bringing a pistol to meet Noah at the end of the film.
If you think about it, Caesar is more Moses than anything. He liberated his people from bondage and took them to the promised land and unfortunately did not get to enjoy it.
I agreed
That is factual
At least he spent 10 years of relative peace with his people.
How would it be Caesar coming back from space? He died in the previous trilogy. That would require someone to first travel back in time to a point prior to Caesar's death then travel forward in time to Noah/Mays present. Then once again go back in time to bring Caesar to his present. That just seems like a paradox waiting to happen.
This makes no sense, we saw him get cremated in the opening scenes. The story line needs to stay believable.
why cant they just be looking into space
Its definitely a 'wormhole' for the astronauts to come back. "A tunnel that eats light"
I really didn't think of that... I just automatically assumed the tunnel was the telescope, and "eats light" was the best way Noah could describe how it worked.
Now I'm convinced this was what they meant!
@@dillonfisher7615 but mae knew what a telescope was and she still reacted shocked, I also on first watch thought he was talking about the telescope
@@knockdoubt well that was the point
@@knockdoubt I can't imagine she would've had access to a telescope, despite knowing what one is. She could just be reacting to space
@@dillonfisher7615 Makes sense. At first I was thinking, “Is he describing the telescope? It doesn’t make sense if it makes you see far away.” Him looking inti the telescope on the other end is what made me think that maybe it was the telescope, but still never made sense to me how it eats light😅 Now if there is an explanation do tell!
Thank you for not spoiling the newest movie just with the thumbnail and title alone. Appreciate you guys. (For anyone who needs it this comment should be read in a very sarcastic tone.)
I can see a cure being part of the plot as well. Mimicking the mutated humans from the original movies
I honestly think the people we see at the end are going to become the mutants least that’s what I hope😅
They saw Palpatine bcoz somehow Palpatine returned
Plot Twist: They’re looking at Pericles in his ship from the 2001 film
Worst theory I've heard yet. More plot holes than Swiss cheese 💩
You lost me at caesar coming back lol I was with you til you said that 😂😂😂
Cezar was more Moses not Noah
One hundred percent. He freed his people and led them to the promise land.
Exactly. Noah is clearly going to be the Noah figure in this trilogy similar to how Caesar was Moses in the last one.
I agreed
I think if Caesar was to return it would be as a descendant rather than time travel, but with what the old films pulled I suppose anything is possible. But I feel like the reboot has remained mostly grounded and consistent with its logic and science
I know what they saw... it's Marky Marrrrk, in SPAAAAAACE!
Plot twist: Noa is Caesar's direct descendant.
I kinda assumed that when his mom looked at him and said he was different.
They had matching birthmarks, I thought this was a plot point
I assumed Noa is Caesar's descendants the moment i saw him. He looks a lot like Caesar
That could be very possible
I assumed the same thing based on the trailers and Noa's birthmark. It is no impossible some point in time during the past 300 years that a descendant went back to California and settled somewhere at the ruins of LA and established the eagle clan.
WHAT A WONDERUL DAY !
Indeed!
That scene had a massive "Can you dig it!?" feel from The Warriors. It was very cool.
Seems like a lot of us disliked the idea of a time traveling Caesar. These apes movies are more grounded than previous installments. My theory is that this new trilogy might focus on the debate of whether or not mankind should survive / reconquer the planet. Noah’s goal was to rescue his clan, but along the way he learned how dangerous ideas can be. Proximus with his kingdom for apes and Mae’s retaking the world that was lost. Does the end justify the means?
If they bring back the original actors and story from the original film of this franchise by having the astronauts crash in the first of the final three films. This will be the most ambitious sleeper franchise of our times.
I sooo loved this film! Totally a refreshing start of a new era....
It feels far fetched and 9 parts really sound like a lot. But if it’s already planned to have that many more movies in the franchise I guess something as wild as this could be for planned
4 down, 5 to go, so possible 😊
These are all prequels to the original I bet
I would like to see the 9th film ending with them traveling back to 1972 alternating history to which the OG movies happen.
The spaceship now travels to the future in 1972 instead of 2011, the apes arrive in the past etc.
@@giovannigiovanni.7220 that already exists literally Escape from the planet of the apes
@@giovannigiovanni.7220i could see it leading up to maybe like the remake in 2001 when he goes back in time in the original and they’re all apes in DC with the abraham lincoln statue being a ape
@@professormoo2 The remake is a completely different universe, it doesn't work.
The new movie is still set roughly 700 years before the original
I think the bunker humans will get together and use nuclear weapons to kill all the apes. Then the next trilogy will be about the aftermath many years after that. Doubt we'll ever actually get time travel.
I thought he was just looking at saturn, because it looked like noah recognized it when he was in the base
the odds of the telescope being aimed perfectly at saturn or really anything is SO SLIM
You said Kingdom is 300 years in the future so how could those astronauts possibly still be alive after all that time?
Time dilation is actually real. It was first discovered by Einstein. The closer you travel to the speed of light the more time assintially slows for the traveller. So if you travel at the speed of light for several light years more time will have passed on earth as apposed to the person travelling. You could leave come back be only a decade older and your kids dt ied of old age.
watch intersteller
Colton is out here trying to turn Caesar into “some how palpatine returned”
My brother and I went to go see this movie on opening weekend. Before the movie started. My brother and I started a chimpanzee war cry. People in the audience joined in and the entire audience sounded like a zoo
Doc Brown finds Ceasar…………
It’s your kids Ceasar, you’ve got to stop your kids from destroying the world! 😳
Marky marks space ship.
Maintaining quality content with new hosts isn't easy and you've done it here. Congrats!
Interesting ideas Colton. I'm honestly seeing the Noah character sharing a lot with Paul Atredes from Dune as a conflicted "saviour". I remember watching the original Heston PotA in the late 60s and have always compered these later movies to them.
I even liked the Marky Mark and the Monkey Bunch movie.
Okay it's Noa not Noah 🤔
@@rogermazuca4582 Thanks. Didn't know-ah...
Good point about the Paul Atreides comparisons. I like his journey going from trying to impress his father by going after the to nest to doing what he must to get his clan back and then possibly becoming the defacto leader of the clan. Incredible. 💪
Love seeing Colton, on more, good rotation between videos of Ryan and Colton
That all just made my head hurt …. Tried to follow but got lost about halfway through 😅
Caesar: I'm the main character of this franchise.
Koba: Imma extend this franchise.
Im glad im not alone in hating this guys idea lol. But I feel bad. He seems like a nice guy. Just has terrible movie ideas.
Noah will probably be the ancestor of Thade.
who let Colton out of his box? :)
with all due respect, of course
People always talk about how good the "No" scene in Rise is, and it's an amazing scene, but the scene in Dawn where Caesar shows up in war paint with an army to deter the humans is slept on. He hes such a terrifying presence, even though at this point in the story you're 100% on his side.
I'll eat up 5 more of these, and then some, if they're even half as good as those first 3. I'd take an apes cinematic universe over the MCU any day.
Ceaser might be coming back. YES, SIR.. they killed him off too fast. Ceaser didn't play no games. Ceaser was a great leader. Love to see Ceaser returning.
I really really hope they will avoid all the time travel bullshit in these new movies. They've manged to do it for four movies, I believe they can keep doing it!
One classic at a time. I can't imagine any studio willing to sign on for more than a three film package. But anything is possible, and maybe the APES franchise could pull it off!
Thanks for the video
Cornelius and Zira had a son called Milo, Milo renames himself as Caesar. Everything else is conjecture and assumption .
I think we will only get 2 more films, and it will bring it back full circle to the original film.
I’m absolutely thrilled for the next chapter in the Planet of the Apes saga! The anticipation is killing me! 🎬🐒
This felt like the perspective of the people on the planet while the astronaut is sleeping in space. Kind of connecting to the original series.
I just love it. It’s perfect. Sprinkle in the humans worshipping a nuke in a silo somewhere as a secondary plot thread, a little bit of deformed humans as a filler, and I’m sold. Take my money…
This whole idea was not good. A time traveling zombie Cesar pulling a back to the future is a bad idea. And it doesn’t fit the more grounded tone these films have now. It would make more sense that the astronauts simply land and literally pull a remake of the first film.
Beautiful! Great Theory!
Thank you!
The international space station? Give them something to reach for.. The Stars:)
Great concept
I just hope they wrap this up before I die 😂
"Great Scott what have you done marty!?"
Sequel idea: Apes vs Lizard-men.
Planet of the Apes: AvV >:)(APES Verses V)
Man was cooking till he mentioned Caesar randomly pooping up in the future lol
Love the explanation ❤I too would love to see the franchise come full circle with the *Astronaut’s returning to Earth coming through some kind of time warp/worm hole. I would love to see an *A list actor play Mr. Heston character.
Peace and love but time traveling Caesar would be god awful lmao
9 Movies?!?! That's Banana's 🍌🍌🍌🙈🙊🙉
But how and when did Cesar go to space?
Many thanks to Colton, Harriet, Randolf, Brianna and Lee! 🦧
Don’t they actually say they saw a hole that sucks up light? It’s the worm hole the astronauts came through
Who the hell will play Charleston Heston? Marky mark?
Even though it's not stated, I think Noa is a direct descendant of Cesar. Cesar was born with ligh eyes and his sons were born with blue eyes, just like Noa. The other apes of Cesar's generation acquired green eyes from the drug but it wasn't passed on to their kids.
Did I miss something?
Caesar died. So how would he be ‘returning’, in a space ship?
Click bait. Notice how none of that came up but in the last 3 minutes. Pathetic.
I think it's fair to say that the next movie will be a race of technology between Apes and Humans... who can advance faster in the bronze age.
i like this host allot please have him on more!!
I think a great way to end the series is having mark walhberg land on the planet randomly. Meaning Wally's movie happened and he just traveled through a worm hole that took him to another planet that also was dominated by monkeys. He gets off heads back to earth and he traveled in time 1000 years and that's him landing on a planet that found earths technology and art and rebuilt it
Everybody is freaking out trying to connect anything to the 1968 movie... but heck, maybe they're just looking at the stars through the "light tunnel" (Noas' words) and maybe Mae is just part of a survivalist community, living in the satcoms bunker (kinda like Fallout)... just standard POTA life, nothing connected to the original incoming starship yet.
But you need to chose between healthy (Rise), low-tech (Dawn), on the break of extinction or primitive (POTA 1968)... especially this "some humans are primitively dumb, some others are as untouched" thing doesn't really seem plausible. That's pretty much my only bad thing to say about Kingdom.
As long as the money is there, they will continue the series. I hope it maintains the same high standards of storytelling it has to date. I feel you are on the right track with your predictions. I recently did a rewatch of all things Ape and discovered some strong parallels that can’t be denied. Ultimately, I think they are retelling the entire saga but from a more grounded perspective. The first trilogy basically covered Conquest and Battle from the original series along with elements of Escape and Planet. I think this current trilogy will retell Beneath with the underground mutant humans with telepathic abilities being replaced by the remnants of humanity hiding in bunkers joining together against the Apes. Then the final trilogy will in essence be Planet of the Apes and elements of Escape with the Icarus mission returning in some fashion and the time travel elements of the story kicking in. I agree that it would be very interesting to have Caesar return instead of humans. We shall see what happens…. Hopefully 🤞 Thank you for the great breakdown and theories!🙏
Whoa.. I gotta watch the originals now lol
YOU SHOULD! THEYRE AWESOME - AND SHORT!
I'm sure others have probably already posted this, but I always saw Caesar more of a Moses character. Just a thought. ---- As for Noah (the ape), he is just Luke Skywalker. Spoilers for both films... A boy with father issues yearns for something better, is forced to leave home after violence arrives on this doorstep, he meets a wide old teacher character along the way who teaches him about the old ways, but then the mentor is killed. The boy needs to save others from the villains clutches, and finally has to destroy the bad guys fortress which has powerful weapons, and in the end learns he had a special ability in him all along! --- To be fair, this film is just doing the classic hero's journey, just like Star Wars did. But there are similarities! 😀
Wow, what a cool theory 😎 👌
It’s so crazy it might just work
I want to point out that Mae shouldn't be surprised by looking through the telescope since she ends up being connected to humans that have access and knowledge of satellite communication so her seeing the stars or moon shouldn't shock her too much. Now, if it really was something shocking, that would make sense its just that they would be really lucky to have seen anything out of a couple hundred yr old telescope.
Love your work and videos. ❤ From India!!
Thank you!
Cesar = Adam.
Adam walked with God in the garden (pre fallen Earth) Cesar walked with man in the prefall Earth.
Cesar learns the knowledge of good and evil when he becomes self aware.
When Eve eats the fruit she "dies" and Adam joins her.
When Cesar's wife dies, he falls into war.
Noa is Noah.
Survives a flood, his descendants are building towards heaven and will fight their creators.
It makes more sense for Noa to shift into an Abrahamic or Moses figure in the next two movies.
In a sense he was already kind of a Moses figure, he led his people out of slavery after meeting "God" (the teachings of Cesar).
We watched Ceasars death and his parents were unintelligent regular apes. There's no way he can come back in time.
No way we get anything as good as what you just laid out. But I hope we do.
Caesar is Moses. There are nods to the Exodus in the previous prequel trilogy and to Cecile B. DeMile Ten Commandments which starred Charlton Heston (star of the original Planet of Apes). The way he is referred to as the lawgiver, how he never got to be in the promised land.
What you do get correct is Noa being like his biblical namesake. But who knows in the end. The key thing seems to be that like in Genesis, when Adam and Eve partook of the forbidden fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil in Eden, knowledge while gives you power, can also bring about the worst of a species: greed, desire, etc.
Thought it was Dr Claw from Inspector Gadget at the start of the video 😂
My man went off the deep need with his theories 🤣🤣some of his ideas were way to far fetched.
Oh my god I’m dyingggggg bro started yapping shit at the end omg
In the original Apes movie, over 2000 years passed from when they left earth so how could they possibly see his ship or communicate with them?
When I saw them looking through the telescope, I took it as them just looking into the vast depths of space and realizing there is more out there than their small world and how that may help them evolve more.
Time travel and the humans who could use telepathy ruined the original series. They don’t need time travel. Having these new films eventually connect to the 1968 film would be great, not time travel.
I appreciate your imagination, but these speculations became wild at the end😂😂
such a gnostic view
5 more movies, 3 - 5 years in the making. Could be here for 25 years
“A tunnel that eats light” sounded just like a Wormhole to my nerd’s ears to be honest 😅
Glad to see that some other people said it but I’ll say my bit anyways to help push the thought. Caesar is more like Moses. I always saw the golden gate bridge scene as a red sea moment. Freeing his people from the sanctuary, zoo, and gen-sys. But then again you get the moments in the third one of him stopping the other ape from being whipped or him taking them to the promised land he cannot enter. And also setting essentially the “commandments” for apes. I understand wanting to make the Christ connection especially if you’re watching War. But even if you think about the humans as the Egyptians and the apes as the slaves, like Moses, Caesar was raised by humans but chooses to be with the apes.