The weight of this piano is fantastic. Without the lid and legs, it's very easy to carry, which is something I prize because I'm constantly adjusting my keyboard stand. The different engines cover different key ranges, which is something clearly laid out in the manual but came as a surprise to me. This means some of the lowest and highest keys on the Seven don't work with the Reed/Wurli or the Vibes (to name a few). The Acoustic and Electric Grands cover the full keyboard range. This is because the Crumar Seven is not only emulating the sounds of these old keyboards, but also their key range. The back-lit knobs are excellent but the button-pushes are clumsy. Sometimes you'll accidentally turn the effect off while trying to access the second parameter for adjustment. The touch of the keybed is slightly too heavy for the likes of me, but the layout and sound quality make up for any short-comings. The acoustic piano does sound a bit weird to me so that will be a good incentive to investigate the editing app. I think if the Seven was bi-timbrel (two sounds at the same time assigned to different midi channels) and had Midi-In, it would be the keyboard of the year for me.
These are the same sounds as the GSI Gemini, which also has the very excellent Crumar B3. (Crumar and GSI are the same company.) So if you can live with a MIDI controller and a Gemini desktop unit, you can assign various parameters and get the same thing.
I dunno, I think you gotta have those tines (or whatever) in there to get the sound. It’s like, they keep getting closer with the Rhodes and Wurly patches, but the closer they get, it’s weird, it’s like it’s even more frustrating, because THEY STILL HAVEN’T GOT IT! And don’t even get me started on Clavs.
@the piano forever mentions a couple points of comparison in his review of the Crumar Seven. I think he also mentioned that he'll be doing a direct comparison soon
I played a SV1 and the seven in a music store last year and the modelling of the seven isn't as realistic sounding to my ears. It sounded like there was some kind of aliasing especially on the higher notes, too.
Hi, thanks for your interest! The answer is “yes and no.” Both the Seven and the Seventeen have a range of effects including delay, reverb, flanger, phaser, chorus, and wah. However, the Seven also has tremolo and auto-pan effects that aren’t present on the Seventeen, and the Seven’s editor software allows for deeper control over the FX parameters than what’s possible on the Seventeen. I hope this helps - feel free to contact me directly with any further questions, and thanks again! Caleb Lowrey, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1620, caleb_lowrey@sweetwater.com
@@sweetwater thanks! I was listening to an interview of the guys that engineered it and I do not understand Italian so used the subtitles on youtube that are not very reliable… but they said something about that if one have the seventeen and it is missing some samples pr eefects for now they will come to add more and more to that model as well and they one will be be able to download, or update the firmware as as well as direct new pianos… Have they already began doing this? And what does these updates mean when it comes to such things that you mentioned as the Tremelo and so on? Do you consider it worth to get the Seventeen? Is a bit cheaper… Thanks for getting back! Chris
Hello! The Crumar Seven has a 73-key weighted action, balanced very similarly to the way a vintage Rhoads would feel. To my fingers, it feels a lot like a few other compact weighted pianos, first and foremost I'd compare it the the Nord Electro HP. If you'd like to go into more detail, please call my number below. Thanks for your interest! Nick LaMendola, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1660, nick_lamendola@sweetwater.com
Hi JustinDovidio, thanks for the question! No, this is a fully digital keyboard designed to evoke the look and feel of the vintage boards. It uses 'physical modeling' tech for the sound generation which does a good job digitally emulating the real instruments in a software space. Because they are modeled, you don't have any of the downfalls of sample based synths such as noticeable loop, limited velocity layers and noise floor. If you would like to talk about keyboards, just give me a shout! Drake Sobehrad, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3271, drake_sobehrad@sweetwater.com
Crumar made some very interesting synths for sure,I even have one in my synth collection.But to be honest you can buy the korg SV1 for half the price and the reed E/Ps sounds way more realistic than the ones on the seven here.Still the seven does have some interesting sounds and from what Ive heard has a better keybed than that of the SV1.
Psychedelic Machine the wurly is on par with the sv1. The Rhodes is amazing to play. It’s sounds and feels very real. I would buy it just on that experience alone. Very vintage sounding where the sv1 was too bright with too much bell character for my taste.
@@tylerthompson1842 i played and compared both in a music store last year. The sv1 definitely sounds more realistic, as the modelling on the seven generates strange artifacts. Its velocity response is much better than the sv1 though. I still bought the SV-1 as I hated the interface and tacky LEDs on the seven
Oh yes...luv this...my Hammond Sk1 61 would be perfect on top. I want it...I like the flatter Baldwin-Wurlizer acoustic piano sound this has. I love the buttons/controls too...
Not a fan, it’s not really that accurate to the Rhodes and other instruments if you know what exactly they sound like, it’s not hard to tell. The sv2 is definitely better in terms of sound quality
How did Korg do with the acoustic pianos on the SV-2? I own the SV-1 and I like the Rhodes and Wurly sounds, but the acoustic piano, while it’s not bad, doesn’t have very good sustain, which makes it usable only it certain contexts (like NOT ballads).
The Cool thing about it is granted its digital they can update with instruments. They "just" added a 2GB Grand Piano. It sounds very nice and well rounded. Just if you're in the mood to spend some serious cash :)
Great Rhodes and Wurlitzer. Decent vintage look to it, except for the cheap Christmas light knobs. The pianos are horrendous. Not even on par with Casio’s stuff. Another swing and a miss.
I disagree, you have an immediate visual feedback of the settings, and also changing presets you do not have to read dials. Just look at the colour scheme and you are ready to go. I think it is a brillant idea.
They look like cheap Christmas lights. That alone scares me away. Not to mention the pianos The joke used to be “it sounds like a Casio”. But the Privia’s sound amazing in comparison. Hard pass
The weight of this piano is fantastic. Without the lid and legs, it's very easy to carry, which is something I prize because I'm constantly adjusting my keyboard stand.
The different engines cover different key ranges, which is something clearly laid out in the manual but came as a surprise to me. This means some of the lowest and highest keys on the Seven don't work with the Reed/Wurli or the Vibes (to name a few). The Acoustic and Electric Grands cover the full keyboard range. This is because the Crumar Seven is not only emulating the sounds of these old keyboards, but also their key range.
The back-lit knobs are excellent but the button-pushes are clumsy. Sometimes you'll accidentally turn the effect off while trying to access the second parameter for adjustment.
The touch of the keybed is slightly too heavy for the likes of me, but the layout and sound quality make up for any short-comings. The acoustic piano does sound a bit weird to me so that will be a good incentive to investigate the editing app.
I think if the Seven was bi-timbrel (two sounds at the same time assigned to different midi channels) and had Midi-In, it would be the keyboard of the year for me.
I find that key range thing a bit weird, since it uses physical modelling it would be easy enough to stretch to the full range
I think it does have midi in on the side. Its like a USB midi port
Correct! It does have Midi In via USB
which does work with products like the Kenton MIDI USB Host MkII
if the controller has only Midi din
These are the same sounds as the GSI Gemini, which also has the very excellent Crumar B3. (Crumar and GSI are the same company.) So if you can live with a MIDI controller and a Gemini desktop unit, you can assign various parameters and get the same thing.
Seven parameters can be edited by all devices that has wifi.
Woah dude, nice playing! It‘s a very good review. Had to go to a store to try it out and it‘s as good as it seems!
They picked the best young guy for this demo.
mrwoo40 great player
Thanks Grandma, I hear he's such a strong boy too, he can nearly carry that piano by himself
they even put a nice place to put your bourbon-coke you ordered in between sets, thats nice of them
Underrated comment
Honestly though, I use synths and pedals so that surface is perfect for me.
Mr. Rogers on da vibes......Bravo 👏
5:05 made my eyes watery...this thing sounds incredible. You play very well.
Thanks Jimmy, I appreciate it!
Whats that song? I love it!
Part of a song I composed. Glad y’all like it 😁
Is there a full version anywhere? :D
I’m recording it this week at Sweetwater Studios so there will be soon 🙂
That is awesome. Love the playing
Rudog47 thanks!
The sound of 2 young new great bands!! PARCELS AND VULFPECK!
In the crumar seven, even the clav sounds beaultifull.
Fantastic playing!
Nice all around sound....... the Crumar name still stands tall. Did I hear something like a CP-70/80? Cool key!
No Hohner Pianet N, RMI Electra-Piano 368x or Baldwin Electric Harpsichord? If I never hear that Yamaha DX7's Rhodes sound again, I'd be happy.
You're an amazing player. Great demo too!
I dunno, I think you gotta have those tines (or whatever) in there to get the sound. It’s like, they keep getting closer with the Rhodes and Wurly patches, but the closer they get, it’s weird, it’s like it’s even more frustrating, because THEY STILL HAVEN’T GOT IT! And don’t even get me started on Clavs.
I love this piano! One day i will buy it.
Good luck.
Question is how this compares for example to the qualityof the Korg SV2?
That's what I'm wondering as well!
@the piano forever mentions a couple points of comparison in his review of the Crumar Seven. I think he also mentioned that he'll be doing a direct comparison soon
@@spmun420 Sweet. Good to know. Thanks, Sam.
I played a SV1 and the seven in a music store last year and the modelling of the seven isn't as realistic sounding to my ears. It sounded like there was some kind of aliasing especially on the higher notes, too.
will I get the same reverb and delay and so on with the little brother Crumar Seventeen? thanks
Hi, thanks for your interest! The answer is “yes and no.” Both the Seven and the Seventeen have a range of effects including delay, reverb, flanger, phaser, chorus, and wah. However, the Seven also has tremolo and auto-pan effects that aren’t present on the Seventeen, and the Seven’s editor software allows for deeper control over the FX parameters than what’s possible on the Seventeen.
I hope this helps - feel free to contact me directly with any further questions, and thanks again!
Caleb Lowrey, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1620, caleb_lowrey@sweetwater.com
@@sweetwater thanks!
I was listening to an interview of the guys that engineered it and I do not understand Italian so used the subtitles on youtube that are not very reliable… but they said something about that if one have the seventeen and it is missing some samples pr eefects for now they will come to add more and more to that model as well and they one will be be able to download, or update the firmware as as well as direct new pianos…
Have they already began doing this?
And what does these updates mean when it comes to such things that you mentioned as the Tremelo and so on?
Do you consider it worth to get the Seventeen?
Is a bit cheaper…
Thanks for getting back!
Chris
What amp or speakers were used in this demo?
5:55 😍 love that tune
I love your keyboard demos.
👍
Thanks! :)
Great demo!
What was the name of that last song you’ve played?
you certainly know how to sell keyboards my friend. I have the Mojo 61, but now I need this one dammit!
Perfect sound and design of Crumar 7. Simply the Best electric stage piano. ❤🎹👍🥇🏆😉📸🔈🔉🔊🍾🥂
What cover is he playing in the intro?
He's playing the jazz standard When Sunny Gets Blue
That’s correct 😁
Dude,,,that sound at around 7:50 is awesome!
The digital EP engines (DX, MKS) sound phenomenal imo, the rest well is a bit flat and lacking for me. Not sure what clav actually sounds like that
1:47 The “clav“ rather sounds like a CP-70.
Indeed, he said "clov" but selected a sampled CP70 sound :)
Killer playing 🔥
what song were you playing at 1:49 when you switch to the clav? BTW, great playing!!!
I was just improvising :) but it does have the sound of some modern jazz tunes I've played before, like by a Joe Henderson or Coltrane perhaps.
And thanks! Glad you liked it.
That Clav sound kinds sounds like a Yamaha electric grand.
It was. He mixed them up.
This one likes a ridiculous amount of fun!
Good video and good musician ! Can you talk more about the touch ? what other piano the touch is it similar to? thx a lot !
Hello! The Crumar Seven has a 73-key weighted action, balanced very similarly to the way a vintage Rhoads would feel. To my fingers, it feels a lot like a few other compact weighted pianos, first and foremost I'd compare it the the Nord Electro HP.
If you'd like to go into more detail, please call my number below. Thanks for your interest!
Nick LaMendola, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1660, nick_lamendola@sweetwater.com
Sweetwater thx a lot for your answer ! :):):)
Anyone knows what the outro music is?
So is this truly an electric piano with analog pickups and such?
Hi JustinDovidio, thanks for the question! No, this is a fully digital keyboard designed to evoke the look and feel of the vintage boards. It uses 'physical modeling' tech for the sound generation which does a good job digitally emulating the real instruments in a software space. Because they are modeled, you don't have any of the downfalls of sample based synths such as noticeable loop, limited velocity layers and noise floor.
If you would like to talk about keyboards, just give me a shout!
Drake Sobehrad, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3271, drake_sobehrad@sweetwater.com
This thing is an 80s/90s nostalgia machine. I want one.
60s*
I think the RolandRD2000 digital is still the best digital piano.
Great but how about wooly bully watch it now 😅
Makes me wish I could actually play piano
It have integrated speakers?
No
Crumar made some very interesting synths for sure,I even have one in my synth collection.But to be honest you can buy the korg SV1 for half the price and the reed E/Ps sounds way more realistic than the ones on the seven here.Still the seven does have some interesting sounds and from what Ive heard has a better keybed than that of the SV1.
Psychedelic Machine the wurly is on par with the sv1. The Rhodes is amazing to play. It’s sounds and feels very real. I would buy it just on that experience alone. Very vintage sounding where the sv1 was too bright with too much bell character for my taste.
@@tylerthompson1842 i played and compared both in a music store last year. The sv1 definitely sounds more realistic, as the modelling on the seven generates strange artifacts. Its velocity response is much better than the sv1 though. I still bought the SV-1 as I hated the interface and tacky LEDs on the seven
Hmm, I heard the keybed was worse.
Don't like the Clav sound on the Crumar.
Was that "Ego-Centric Molecules" for a second?
I have to get one love the sounds
Nicely done.
I heard that the key action is very heavy.
$2,309.00
Wow, sounds beautiful 2:10
Sounds great but I reckon this guy would make my kids little tikes toy piano sound good.
Good demo
I may have the sell the Wurlitzer 200A and get this.
No.
Oh yes...luv this...my Hammond Sk1 61 would be perfect on top. I want it...I like the flatter Baldwin-Wurlizer acoustic piano sound this has. I love the buttons/controls too...
Nice Jean Luc Ponty tribute
Nice catch :)
does it arrive with broken/missing/defective parts and freezing electronics like every other Italian instrument?
Yes, and with some spaghetti inside... at $2300 it's an offer you can't refuse...
I'll tell you one thing - I'd LOVE to have that case....to put my Nord Electro in so it will look cool.
Oh man, it's like the Korgrumar SV-1
Cheers !
Won't you be my neighbor? heh Some of those sounds are so soothing I could go to sleep on them.
Not a fan, it’s not really that accurate to the Rhodes and other instruments if you know what exactly they sound like, it’s not hard to tell. The sv2 is definitely better in terms of sound quality
I agree. I compared this to a SV-1 and it blew the seven out of the water!
And they aren’t a patch on Nords
How did Korg do with the acoustic pianos on the SV-2? I own the SV-1 and I like the Rhodes and Wurly sounds, but the acoustic piano, while it’s not bad, doesn’t have very good sustain, which makes it usable only it certain contexts (like NOT ballads).
Nice.
Nice big like 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Real shame that the acoustic piano isn’t good
Great wurly and Rhodes but the cheap sounding ac piano prevents me buying it
The Cool thing about it is granted its digital they can update with instruments. They "just" added a 2GB Grand Piano. It sounds very nice and well rounded. Just if you're in the mood to spend some serious cash :)
Sounds great but not $2,300 great
Jacob Humbert so get the Mojo 61. All the same sounds, and also Organ. $1000 less.
SteeVtheRipper not all the same sounds , but some. The most important ones to me though
@@thedarkestrainbow really
Great Rhodes and Wurlitzer. Decent vintage look to it, except for the cheap Christmas light knobs. The pianos are horrendous. Not even on par with Casio’s stuff. Another swing and a miss.
My god, is this only guy Sweetwater has? Jeezus freaking 'ell!!! I'll come work for $10 an hour jeez!
My car only has one engine on it.
The CP80 is so unnatural. I do prefer my YC61.
clAAAv - not clOv
Sounds great but those buttons are ugly!
Yeah I agree, after like a month of use I kinda wish they were just normal pots
I disagree, you have an immediate visual feedback of the settings, and also changing presets you do not have to read dials. Just look at the colour scheme and you are ready to go. I think it is a brillant idea.
They look like cheap Christmas lights. That alone scares me away. Not to mention the pianos The joke used to be “it sounds like a Casio”. But the Privia’s sound amazing in comparison. Hard pass
i like the look of it