I got my hands on one but I'm kinda dissapointed. Adding a custom stream destination is possibile, but so far I haven't found a solution to add a destionation that is password protected. Also, my device did randomly restart a couple of times, luckily never during streaming.
It's great to be able to stream to UA-cam without software OBS or vMix. My students make small shows in our television studio, as assignment for my video course. They provide me with the streamkey of their UA-cam live event they prepared. I insert it into the software and can start the UA-cam event on their own channel live center, on there own laptop. Last monday, I managed to do 20 little streams in one day.
Thank you for another very informative and well presented video. Always a joy to watch them. I think the advantage over atem mini would be: 1. build in sdi connectors 2. little videoscreen 3. front controlled rack able 4. smaller size However the atem mini pro is currently even cheaper then this presenter and a hdmi-sdi converter is only 50 euro. As the Atem mini pro can do almost the same + much more, I guess this presenter is for a smaller more specific market. I am not sure the Atem mini pro can switch upload bandwidth and or resolution while being live but the fall back to a mobile connection is available after the last update. What the atem mini pro does not do is auto switching back to the preferred network when it comes back on-line after it switched to the backup connection. It only (tries to) switch back when the backup (mobile) connection loses its connection.
Finally got a hold of one a few weeks ago. Replacing the original Web Presenter in my 2ru road case where it is teamed up with two Hyperdeck Mini's and an ATEM 1 m/e 4k switcher. I really love the monitor output. As well as the multiple options it has for outputting encoded video streams.
@@heretorecord It works Very well. The monitor out works as a final program monitor. So it's just two portable 15" displays used with the rig. Multiview and the Webpresenter monitor out. That WP display is fantastic. The only thing it's missing is a histogram and audio spectrum display. ;) (Give a mouse a cookie.....) The WP hangs off of Aux3 of the ATEM. The two hyperdecks off of 1 & 2. This way I have the option of not necessarily recording the same feed going to the web. (In case I want a clean feed for either output).
Great quick overview of the new WebPresenter .. got mine a month ago but hasn't time to play around with .. looking forward for more indepht explonations on this handy little thing ....
Is something like this necessary for gaming streams? Or is this just once you add a mic and camera? Then would it be useful/necessary for streaming game play?
Hey! Thank you for the video. I intend to start streaming from very remote places. And if possible, I would like some advice from you: 1. Among the multiple "power options" we saw on the back: how can I power this up with a battery pack? Which battery pack can I buy? - I have casually filmed with Nikon before, but I have zero experience with battery packs and stuff. 2. Would it be possible to use this with 2 cameras, a BMD Atem Mini Pro, a mobile phone (tethering), and NO laptop or HDMI monitor. While everything is powered on batteries? - I wish to travel as lightly as possible (even if it means using the Web Presenter's small screen) and an Atem Mini Pro to switch my HDMI cameras But I don't know is any of this is possible. A 100% battery powered setup.
Is it still necessary to stream via OBS if Web Presenter HD can handle the streaming itself? I have a livestream concert coming up in a few weeks. Ideally, I would like to stream from the Web Presenter HD and have OBS as a back up for streaming. Your videos are always so helpful and informative! Thanks!
Where both the Ethernet and the phone signals are weak, can you use speedify bonding software on a laptop to connect the WPHD through the USB type 'C' ?
Hi John. I would like to ask if you tried to connect it to wifi repeater directly? i mean i have an event coming and they told me that wifi only can be access not ethernet to the venue. so i was thinking if will it work if the venue Wifi router to wifi repeater/bridge to ethernet connect to web presenter hd? what yah think? thanks
Nope - one streaming destination at a time. For split screen, you would need to add an ATEM into your production workflow and do all of your split-screening on that
Did you experience any caching issues during your testing? I purchased 3 of them and am unable to use any of them successfully. Yet I can stream with no problem with software or other hardware encoders.
What camera did you connected to the Web Presenter Hd? I have trouble to use the web presenter to my Nikon D7200, any help will be helpful to where to get the proper cable (hdmi to sdi). Thanks.
Is there a way to quickly change the stream settings (to send to a different channel)? Ideally something that can be streamlined with macros (using Companion)
Too bad they remove the HDMI input from the original WebPresenter! I really like having 2 input switching capability, it is so useful in many smaller scale situation.
@@heretorecord Amazing. Ill take a look and hopefully that will then give us better output from Extreme to UA-cam quality, because of web presenter HD. 👍
Wondering how possible and/or practical using these to multi stream would be if you daisy chained 3-5 together. Maybe ATEM on location to a stream bridge, HDMI Splitter to a few of these, out to the audience. Could replace Vimeo or restream perhaps
You could certainly do this, but keep in mind that using a service like Restream means you ONLY need to send ONE feed out of the building, and let Restream do all the work from there. Running multiple of these devices in the same room will work however you need to make sure you internet is up to the task.
@@heretorecord Good point. My home internet is pretty fast, up to 1000mbps. Do you think it would be practical or possible to stream on-site to a streaming bridge at home and run 3-4 web presenters from home?
Hi, can you please send the details of the network cable you are using in this video. It is very thin and flexible. i am searching for such ultra thin network cable from long time.
There are a few reasons why you may want to consider this device for your setup... - You have a switcher that does not have streaming abilities and want to add streaming to it. - You have a completely SDI workflow and want to live stream your event. - You want to not rely on one single device for the video switching, recording and streaming of your show. That said, if you are happy with your ATEM Mini Pro and you don't particularly see a need for this device, then it might be this device is not needed in your setup at all.
I would like to see BM make it easier to adjust for using CBR vs VBR. I understand you can modify in XML file, but haven’t done it myself yet. Another item to for wish list, make it easier through app interface to add third party outputs. I agree on the HDMI. That would have been nice to add.
If you have the ethernet connected as well as a phone tether, is it using your phone's data the whole time or only if it fails over? Is the tether always the backup if ethernet is connected or can you set which one is the main/backup?
It will only use one connection at a time and you can choose the "connection priority" in the menu system. So the tether can be the main internet source with the ethernet as the backup!
@@heretorecord Thanks John. So just to be clear, it doesn't send the stream data (or any data) out to the backup destination UNTIL you disconnect the main? So you wouldn't be using data on the phone (if it's the backup) until it was needed? Also, what triggers the failover? What if the primary connection is just getting throttled (slow speed but the connection is still up), will it switch to the backup? Or does the connection have to completely drop? Thanks.
I bought a Sony HXR-NX100 camera and one web presenter... But the web presenter doesn't detect my camera I don't see anything on the small screen or when I open OBS... Why do you think? thank you
1) Can one schedule streams to start automatically? 2) If so does one have to type the stream key every time (create event first) or can it create new events automatically?
I only really know about UA-cam, and you could set a UA-cam stream up to auto-start. Additionally you can use the same stream key again and again on UA-cam.
Is anybody facing problems with cache memory oh BMWP HD? There are few posts on BM Forum for similar problem from few users but i see there are no problems for other users. Can you do a video help us find out, what we doing wrong? I try several cameras with BM HDMI to SDI 3G converter. I can see the camera normaly, with sound. But the cache of BMWP is goinf after 1 min to 100% and stay there, no matter the internet speed.
That would have been an nice addition, though it would have changed the price a bit - it does take an internal reworking to add a recorder. Plus they also just brought out lots of new recorders so I am not surprised.
It does not. You will have to push to another service like restream, but I don’t think you will like that answer. I’m actually not sure what the cheapest multistream service is
I use a magewell ultra stream for my streaming currently. It can push up to 2 rtmps streams at a time. It is comparably priced but lacks some features like USB webcam out or even live video monitoring. Everything is done through an app or a browser. It's a solid device but takes some getting used to.
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Do you have a Web Presenter HD or are thinking of getting one? What will you use it for?
I got my hands on one but I'm kinda dissapointed. Adding a custom stream destination is possibile, but so far I haven't found a solution to add a destionation that is password protected. Also, my device did randomly restart a couple of times, luckily never during streaming.
It’s a set backwards. Where the XLR inputs?? How do you connect a board with a SDI input only?!?
It's great to be able to stream to UA-cam without software OBS or vMix. My students make small shows in our television studio, as assignment for my video course. They provide me with the streamkey of their UA-cam live event they prepared. I insert it into the software and can start the UA-cam event on their own channel live center, on there own laptop.
Last monday, I managed to do 20 little streams in one day.
Great video, John!
Mine will complement yours nicely once I get it edited.
I thought it would!
I can’t wait Doug -Petra
Thank you for another very informative and well presented video. Always a joy to watch them. I think the advantage over atem mini would be: 1. build in sdi connectors 2. little videoscreen 3. front controlled rack able 4. smaller size However the atem mini pro is currently even cheaper then this presenter and a hdmi-sdi converter is only 50 euro. As the Atem mini pro can do almost the same + much more, I guess this presenter is for a smaller more specific market. I am not sure the Atem mini pro can switch upload bandwidth and or resolution while being live but the fall back to a mobile connection is available after the last update. What the atem mini pro does not do is auto switching back to the preferred network when it comes back on-line after it switched to the backup connection. It only (tries to) switch back when the backup (mobile) connection loses its connection.
Great video! Even better tiny home!
Finally got a hold of one a few weeks ago. Replacing the original Web Presenter in my 2ru road case where it is teamed up with two Hyperdeck Mini's and an ATEM 1 m/e 4k switcher.
I really love the monitor output. As well as the multiple options it has for outputting encoded video streams.
The monitor output is so great! Hope it works well for you!
@@heretorecord It works Very well. The monitor out works as a final program monitor. So it's just two portable 15" displays used with the rig. Multiview and the Webpresenter monitor out.
That WP display is fantastic. The only thing it's missing is a histogram and audio spectrum display. ;) (Give a mouse a cookie.....)
The WP hangs off of Aux3 of the ATEM. The two hyperdecks off of 1 & 2. This way I have the option of not necessarily recording the same feed going to the web. (In case I want a clean feed for either output).
Very nice review. I just got mine several days ago. Can’t wait to share my thoughts
Looking forward to your video(s) too!
Great quick overview of the new WebPresenter .. got mine a month ago but hasn't time to play around with .. looking forward for more indepht explonations on this handy little thing ....
Wow that is taking a while!
Is something like this necessary for gaming streams? Or is this just once you add a mic and camera? Then would it be useful/necessary for streaming game play?
Thanks for this video John and the generator.
Thanks, as always, for the support, George!
Thanks for confirming what I thought. Very helpful!
No worries!
Could the Black Magic Web Presenter HD stream HLG input signals using the Rec.709 color space?
Hey! Thank you for the video.
I intend to start streaming from very remote places. And if possible, I would like some advice from you:
1. Among the multiple "power options" we saw on the back: how can I power this up with a battery pack? Which battery pack can I buy?
- I have casually filmed with Nikon before, but I have zero experience with battery packs and stuff.
2. Would it be possible to use this with 2 cameras, a BMD Atem Mini Pro, a mobile phone (tethering), and NO laptop or HDMI monitor. While everything is powered on batteries?
- I wish to travel as lightly as possible (even if it means using the Web Presenter's small screen) and an Atem Mini Pro to switch my HDMI cameras
But I don't know is any of this is possible. A 100% battery powered setup.
Hi and thanks for the Video. Does this equipment allow transmitting to several Social Networks simultaneously by itself?
Great Video, thanks!
You're welcome!
Awesome!!!
I will oder one ASAP
Excellent idea!
Is it still necessary to stream via OBS if Web Presenter HD can handle the streaming itself?
I have a livestream concert coming up in a few weeks. Ideally, I would like to stream from the Web Presenter HD and have OBS as a back up for streaming. Your videos are always so helpful and informative! Thanks!
You can do all the streaming from the Web Presenter HD - note that you will need to supply your video feed over SDI into the Web Presenter HD
Can you stream to different platforms at the same time from here ? UA-cam and Facebook
Will you be doing a video on the Web Presenter 4k?
I just dont get, why they killed the audio inputs.... so dumb!
SDI
SDI can carry 12 channels, so there’s no need for any other audio inputs.
Where both the Ethernet and the phone signals are weak, can you use speedify bonding software on a laptop to connect the WPHD through the USB type 'C' ?
Hi John. I would like to ask if you tried to connect it to wifi repeater directly? i mean i have an event coming and they told me that wifi only can be access not ethernet to the venue. so i was thinking if will it work if the venue Wifi router to wifi repeater/bridge to ethernet connect to web presenter hd? what yah think? thanks
Would love it if they released 4K streaming options!
It would be interesting. And then my internet would cry.
Answered my questions- thanks!
Can you live stream to Facebook and UA-cam simultaneously?
Is there a way to split between FB and YT?
another great video as always !
Many thanks!
Can you stream to multiple platforms at the same time such as UA-cam and facebook?
Anyway in having 2 cameras with a split screen approach ?
Nope - one streaming destination at a time. For split screen, you would need to add an ATEM into your production workflow and do all of your split-screening on that
Did you experience any caching issues during your testing? I purchased 3 of them and am unable to use any of them successfully. Yet I can stream with no problem with software or other hardware encoders.
Can you stream to Facebook and UA-cam at the same time? In other words can you stream to multiple destinations at once?
No this will only stream to one location at a time.
What camera did you connected to the Web Presenter Hd? I have trouble to use the web presenter to my Nikon D7200, any help will be helpful to where to get the proper cable (hdmi to sdi). Thanks.
Im using an SDI based system for this. You’ll want a HDMI to SDI converter (like the Blackmagic Design HDMI to SDI converter)
Is there a way to quickly change the stream settings (to send to a different channel)?
Ideally something that can be streamlined with macros (using Companion)
Too bad they remove the HDMI input from the original WebPresenter! I really like having 2 input switching capability, it is so useful in many smaller scale situation.
Yeah I think so too. But I suspect they did it because they ran out of buttons on the front.
Can I use my stem extreme as a. Idea mixer, then connect to Webptesenter to go live? Someone suggested using web presenter for SRT rather than rmtp
Yes you could certainly connect the ATEM Mini Extreme to the Web Presenter.
@@heretorecord Amazing. Ill take a look and hopefully that will then give us better output from Extreme to UA-cam quality, because of web presenter HD. 👍
Wondering how possible and/or practical using these to multi stream would be if you daisy chained 3-5 together.
Maybe ATEM on location to a stream bridge, HDMI Splitter to a few of these, out to the audience. Could replace Vimeo or restream perhaps
You could certainly do this, but keep in mind that using a service like Restream means you ONLY need to send ONE feed out of the building, and let Restream do all the work from there. Running multiple of these devices in the same room will work however you need to make sure you internet is up to the task.
@@heretorecord Good point. My home internet is pretty fast, up to 1000mbps. Do you think it would be practical or possible to stream on-site to a streaming bridge at home and run 3-4 web presenters from home?
Hi, can you please send the details of the network cable you are using in this video. It is very thin and flexible. i am searching for such ultra thin network cable from long time.
These ones: www.amazon.com/Monoprice-SlimRun-Cat6A-Ethernet-Patch/dp/B01BGV2IPQ?th=1
Quick question. What's the advantage of the WPHD over an atem mini pro ? Atem cost less and do more, so why should I choose it over ?
There are a few reasons why you may want to consider this device for your setup...
- You have a switcher that does not have streaming abilities and want to add streaming to it.
- You have a completely SDI workflow and want to live stream your event.
- You want to not rely on one single device for the video switching, recording and streaming of your show.
That said, if you are happy with your ATEM Mini Pro and you don't particularly see a need for this device, then it might be this device is not needed in your setup at all.
I would like to see BM make it easier to adjust for using CBR vs VBR. I understand you can modify in XML file, but haven’t done it myself yet.
Another item to for wish list, make it easier through app interface to add third party outputs.
I agree on the HDMI. That would have been nice to add.
hey love your videos! can you stream to multiple platforms at the same time
If you have the ethernet connected as well as a phone tether, is it using your phone's data the whole time or only if it fails over? Is the tether always the backup if ethernet is connected or can you set which one is the main/backup?
It will only use one connection at a time and you can choose the "connection priority" in the menu system. So the tether can be the main internet source with the ethernet as the backup!
@@heretorecord Thanks John. So just to be clear, it doesn't send the stream data (or any data) out to the backup destination UNTIL you disconnect the main? So you wouldn't be using data on the phone (if it's the backup) until it was needed? Also, what triggers the failover? What if the primary connection is just getting throttled (slow speed but the connection is still up), will it switch to the backup? Or does the connection have to completely drop? Thanks.
I bought a Sony HXR-NX100 camera and one web presenter... But the web presenter doesn't detect my camera I don't see anything on the small screen or when I open OBS... Why do you think? thank you
What are you using to convert HDMI from the camera to SDI?
1) Can one schedule streams to start automatically?
2) If so does one have to type the stream key every time (create event first) or can it create new events automatically?
I only really know about UA-cam, and you could set a UA-cam stream up to auto-start. Additionally you can use the same stream key again and again on UA-cam.
Anyone else having issues streaming through Ubiquiti network hardware?
We currently have a 4k in our booth that is virtually useless.
Is anybody facing problems with cache memory oh BMWP HD? There are few posts on BM Forum for similar problem from few users but i see there are no problems for other users. Can you do a video help us find out, what we doing wrong? I try several cameras with BM HDMI to SDI 3G converter. I can see the camera normaly, with sound. But the cache of BMWP is goinf after 1 min to 100% and stay there, no matter the internet speed.
That's a tough one as I find it relies so heavily on the internet configuration on your end. I will give it some thought though!
Why couldn’t there just add an SDCard to record what you are streaming as well?
That would have been an nice addition, though it would have changed the price a bit - it does take an internal reworking to add a recorder. Plus they also just brought out lots of new recorders so I am not surprised.
amazing
Thanks!
Hello, I am trying to stream a sporting event in 4k. How can I add a scorecard using the 4k version of this device? Any help is much appreciated.
What other equipment do you have and what have you tried so far?
I don't have A Way to get audio into sdi do they make an adapter
They do, its the "Mini Converter Audio to SDI"
So actually there is no reason to have booth atem mini and webpresenter, right ?
Correct if you have an ATEM Mini Pro or higher. But there are many other hardware devices that don’t have streaming built in.
Can I stream to both youtube and Facebook at the same time?
Nope, not directly from this device. You would need to stream to something like Restream first.
We don’t need this if we have atem mini extreme right"?
You don't need it, nope. You may still want it though :D
Does it multistreaming? what's best way to multistreaming, I mean cheap, and not thes Restream or Castr, too expensive for weekly task.
It does not. You will have to push to another service like restream, but I don’t think you will like that answer. I’m actually not sure what the cheapest multistream service is
I use a magewell ultra stream for my streaming currently. It can push up to 2 rtmps streams at a time. It is comparably priced but lacks some features like USB webcam out or even live video monitoring. Everything is done through an app or a browser. It's a solid device but takes some getting used to.
Money
You have it or you want it?
Hi John, I am loving your content. I just ‘joined’ your Channel and would like to be added to your discord server. In the perks it says to DM you in discord to get an invite but I need both your user name AND tag.. can you please help?
There is actually a link under every video -once you join you will find me much easier! Thanks for being a member!