I love how honest you are in everything from reviews to "hey I messed this up", or even I really don't know so lets learn". Keep up the awesome videos and keep being awesome."
Good choice keeping the Occidental. I bought mine after watching the Essential Craftsman show his that he has worn for 16 years and still going strong. Something "old school craftsman" about a leather tool belt. If you didn't already have them, the Diamondback would have been a good one too, RR buildings seem to like theirs. I am sure Paerau will get great use out of them.
I went through a lot of bags from 1976 until 2000 when I seen for the first time the occidental, I was certain enough that I bought two sets complete with the occidental suspenders . My brother was with me and got caught up in my excitement and bought him a bag. I had planned on putting up one of mine but my son who was just getting started pleaded for my extra bag as he noticed how professionally we wore them , after all ......we are master carpenters and builders . I told him he had not enough years to have such a bag and made a big deal for a few weeks and finally gave up my extra bag to him but made him make payments on the bag every week until it was paid. Great bags, tough as a new saddle and takes many years to break one in and more than two decades wearing the same bag .........what else needs to be said...........Hammer time " can't touch this "
I install drywall (aka wallboard, plasterboard, sheetrock). And from what I've seen Diamondback doesn't have a tool pouch specifically for drywall. And as for a fastener pouch I really only need 2 fastener compartments. Diamondback seems to cater far more to wood framers and more similar trades so I don't think I'll make the switch. I'm also so used to Occidental, if I ever got into wood framing/form work, I'd buy their hammer holster and put it a 8582 FatLip tool pouch as I already have the similar black nylon fat lip fastener pouch.
I still have my occidental pouch and the 5 in 1 hammer loop and found it to be great. But then I realised it was too heavy. I then moved to buckaroo but then was annoyed that the pockets weren't deep enough like the occidental. I went to the US in June and purchased the eagle and rookie pouches from Diamondback but still use the buckaroo suspenders and belt. Its taken me 10 years to find the right set up for me. I love what all of those brands have to offer but at the end of the day, its what works best for you and the type of work you carry out.
Are the suspenders a must buy for the buckaroo belt ? Someone was staying they kink the belt up in the back. Iam going to buy the belt and just unsure about the suspenders.
I love my toughbuilt tool belt system! The pouches are not the end all ultimate in design, but they get the job done extremely well. When I'm on scaffolding and someone goes to do a fastener run, it's nice that I can hand them an extra clip and my fastener pouch. They can quickly add it to their belt (which they don't have to take off) and fill me up too. I also love that I can unclip the pouches to crawl or squeeze through tight spaces. I also like to mount my tool pouch to a stud in reach of the cut station. I like being able to share my pouches, with my co-workers, by handing them some clips to attach to their belt. "Pass me your driver?" *Click* *click* and my driver is on their hip, holster and all. I like being able to switch the side my fasteners are on if I need to go lefty. Takes two seconds and now holster is left side and fasteners are right side. Down sides? Yes. Hammer loops are HUGE. Hate them, especially when on finish work. I have to walk very wide to avoid scraping the walls or trim. I would love to have a deep pocket fastener pouch. It's not that my fastener pouch is bad, and this has yet to happen, but the open pockets they have on the outside make me worry that I will rain screws or nails. These pouches are affordable, haven't failed me and make an amazingly flexible tool belt. I do recommend. Side note, their utility pouch is now my every day carry. It carries 2 pencils, 1 pen, 1 marker, tape measure, chalk line, and olfa knife. I clip it into a pocket on my jeans, so that it doesn't get in the way of my tool belt. If I don't need my tool belt, that pouch stays on. Best 12 dollars I've ever spent!
Love my Diamondback Raptor. It takes some convincing to drop $350+ on tool belt but the build quality and detail are worth it IMO. As a remodeler like you, I love how adaptable they are for different types of work. And all the accessory bags make it really easy to customize. I could make a pretty interesting tool belt just with the accessory pouches I have.
I've got 2 on hand all the time, for framing, drywall, and decks I have an off-brand component style tool belt. And for finishing work, trim, doors, flooring, I have an Occidental vest. It took some getting used to, but I find it keeps the tools up off the floor when you're crawling and kneeling down a lot.
I run Buckaroo back support belt, suspenders and pouches, similar to occidental but Australian Made, best belt and bag i have owned, still going strong 3 years on
Late to the party here but Occidental all the way. I got a new one about 2 years ago. My first one I bought in '93. Wore it everyday for 25 years. Sent it back for minor repairs and cleaning twice. Great company, great service, great product. I'd never wear another bag.
Ha have the exact same connection with my Occidental Bought it in California in 2004 which I used there for 11 years then took with me back home to Ireland for a few years then to Auckland for 18 months tho had to leave behind as I was traveling light around SEA. Now on Canada's west coast banging nails again!
I wear an Occidental rig and I really like the natural work-flow it facilitates. I also like the weight to be on the hip and shoulders. The Diamondback rides at the waist and the bags are tight at the opening. I feel that your review is spot on. Thanks Scott
I think the Occidental belt is a better look on you since that's the belt you started this channel with and have always wore. As a remodel carpenter I think your kit is perfect and not to bulky or overloaded. I'm glad you are keep your original belt. Keep up the great work and thanks for the videos, I have learned a lot from you!
Occidental 8580 heritage fat lip with hip buddies and 5055 stronghold suspenders. A sheet metal man dream. Lovem. Almost bought the all leather bags like you have but my nylon bags going strong after 5 years
I have the same Occidental set up, but with the 4 pouch left side. Also to add more slots for tools I took an Occidental Pocket Caddy, cut off the belt strap, and riveted inside the big pouch on my right side.
I bought the Occidental 9855 and love it. What I really appreciate is the option to order handedness, which is huge for a lefty. Made a big difference for me.
Over in Australia, Buckaroo seems to be the go for a high end belt. Similar price to the Dimondback, but that's only if you want to fully kit it out. Love my set to pieces🤙
Problem is recording stuff at sparrowfart in the morning pretty much guarantees you'll get a bird racket as the backing track. I live next to native bush and you pretty much can't do anything involving sound before about an hour past dawn.
Great video as usual. I have a leather tool belt that I have worn my entire building career. I love it. I tried a very similar to the Diamondback belt a few years back, Used it for a week. Went back to my leather tool belt. Don’t see myself giving it up anytime soon.
From Ft Lauderdale, Fl,USA, discouvered the channel about 6 months ago..Why I like it.I get practical tips and hints in every episode,just by watching these two craftsmen working.....I would consider them as cabinet builders, couple steps up from carpenters.Attention to detail.AND care about work surroundings. Really like the work van wish it was sold in the USA. perhaps a review bout it???
I have trusted leather rig and a new fancy nylon rig. I went back to the leather just worked for me. I have an open wooden tool box for all the stuff that I need but, not constantly
Holy jesus balls, love the leather tool belt, thought to my self I want a bit of that action, went on amazon.....nearly 800 English pounds....I'll just stick with walking back and forwards to the van like the poor chippy i am.
Are Occidentals really that expensive when facing in everything for you? In the US I just got the 7 Framer bag for $240. I still need the Comfort Suspenders thou.
Working with my dad it's always been small toolbelts filled with the bare minimum and bring excess tools we may want to use in a wheelbarrow/bucket. When one of us is on the roof/on the trusses, it's easy enough for the other to throw things up as needed. It also means you don't have to worry as much about getting snagged while moving around. At the start of the year when I was helping him I mainly did work pants with need pockets for screws and tin offcuts, and then hung my hammer, gloves and any drills we needed off of my normal belt.
I look for a tool vest in my tool belts. Honestly I bought a vest and it’s the best thing. Very comfortable and having chest pockets really comes in handy. That diamondback does look really nice though. I love the idea of the angled hammer holder. I’m constantly worried about swinging my hammer into finished door frames and such.
Have your exact occidental leathers, love them! I live 10 minutes from occidental California where the company started. So just about everyone in this area rocks Occidental’s. Was thinking about trying the diamond backs, but my bags are still in great shape. Thanks for the review! Love your channel!
I'm a Union carpenter I n the US an I have been using my diamondback tool belt for 7 months, I have washed them once after 2 or 3 months to see if they would break in and make in easier to get my big hands into the pouches to get my nails out but nope it didn't. There are to many places to put tools it seems like nothing has a place, needless to say I will be switching back to Occidental bags in 10 years after these wear out lol
My boss bought me a set of occidental bags about 15 years ago. I didn't like the open bags so I kept my old leather home depot bags till about 2 years ago. Found diamondback and used them until a month ago. I'm running an atlas 46 apron now. Going from framing to trim to the shop has steered my choice alot.
I got given a Occidental tool belt without the shoulder straps only used it a couple of times but love it, can definitely feel why the shoulder straps come in handy, at the end of the day I feel like 90 year old who belongs in a rest home, where can I get some shoulder straps from I have looked at mitre 10 and Bunnings and couldn't find them anywhere
DB is probably a lot lighter. Issue is it’s bigger and holds more tools. And because of that, you add more tools. That cats paw (nail bar) has to weigh a lot on its own. So I think the weight of the tool belt itself, is really only half the battle. The other half is figuring out if you really need to carry around that nail bar. Do you really need two knives. Etc By choosing a smaller tool belt, you’re forced into deciding. The bigger one you don’t have to. And I think that’s why a lot of people choose that. It’s the easier decision. But in most cases, it’s probably the wrong decision.
I use to have the exact same one as your occidental... Sold it to an apprentice after buying and trying out a tool vest!! Way lighter, way more comfy, smaller pouches, easier to fit through rafters, tusses and joist, easier to organize tools and nails and such!! So smaller lighter is better and will be a tool vest from now on!! Snickers or Barklader(spelling might be wrong)
Have to agree, it all matters to what you can see easily in your toolbelt, worst thing is to look for some tool and find it finally in you tool belt that you were carrying with you all along.
hearing those birds sing when I'm currently in the arse end of a freezing winter was actually really nice, great video was thinking about a diamondback myself
I live in the UK and we don’t tend to wear tool belts too much as we use work trousers with multiple pockets which in my opinion are a nightmare. Everything ends up in the two larger front pockets and I mean everything, tape measure, pencils, screws, nails etc and even the van keys so you forever find yourself digging through to find what you want, and they also fill up with clippings and dust and crap so the missus hates emptying the pockets lol. Think I will try a tool belt with the harness/suspenders thing ( fly fishing jokes aside haha) in the near future 👍
😂 I've had a similar experience with the tool trousers, sometimes they are the best option (in a finished home) but more often than not I prefer the Occidental
I bought a set of Snickers tool trousers for my retail job (initially for the kneepads). The extra pockets are a huge bonus as I can keep boxcutters, pens, nikkos, store mobiles, paperwork, etc in them. Still considering getting a couple of the add-on pouches (mostly for the knives etc so i don't end up cutting the pockets out).
I look for a balance between comfort, weight and convenience. I was never a fan of the Diamondback because it tries too hard to fix things that just aren't really a problem. I think all the extra flaps and pouches are unnecessary and even a bit counterproductive at times. However, I very much like the look and feel of Diamondback. The black tactical nylon is very pleasing. I prefer simple, clean and efficient. If I need to add something to a standard tool belt, like a special pouch for a specific function, well there are always after-market options for small additions. I also have a lot of tools that rest in their own attachments in my tool kit that I can just attach to my belt when the need arises, For the most part I only carry the most essential tools like a hammer, speed square, small selection of screw drivers, tape, pencil, etc., on my belt at all times. This kind of forces me to think through my work flow so that I can prepare the necessary tools ahead of time and when I fail to do that properly, my punishment is having to burn some extra calories going back to my tool kit for the bits I missed.
I have a similar approach, keep the tools minimal and change them to suit the job. Variety is what makes our job interesting but it takes a bit of planning to make it work
As a multi trade guy, and I know yall going to make fun of me, but Tough Built has my number. Basic belt with 6 clips all around. I can swap bags between framing, finishing, electrical, plumbing, roofing, siding, whatever. Having fast on and off tool pouches that are lighter than leather but hold open like leather is such a huge plus. Going to be using a impact driver a lot while on a ladder slap on the driver holster, done with that and going to use a caulk gun a bunch, clip on my caulk gun holder, or why not both and have a few bags on top of that. Super fast bag and holder swaps is awesome and allows me to be up a latter working longer and more comfortably. Don't quite know why I'm always up a latter, but I feel like that's where I am a lot, maybe cause I hate latter work, have no issues with scaffolding, I just hate latters. For ground work I don't even wear a belt. Half of those bags for the belt system also have a little prop stand built in. So, no belt, or a severely minimised one. The holsters and bags also pull duty on organization, as I have a bunch of the clips on a sawhorse, so all my bags and holsters clip around the saw horse and I can openly see and grab whatever I need.
Love my diamondback. Got the next size up. With 3 pockets on each pouch. So handy with the hammer holster and mine came with a flat bar holster kinda sits just like the hammer but on the opposite side
@@curtiswilliams7638 works great. Hammer on the right side, nail puller on the left. Took a little getting use to but I love it. Probably could have got away with the same size pouch that scott had. 3 pockets on each side, kinda have to lean to get to the 3rd pocket so I kinda dont use it all that often. But live and learn.
When I was just a laborer I kinda regret not getting the occidental bags first. I wore out a clone in nylon finally in 6 years. Nothing like 10 lbs of Simpson pins, 5 lbs of 16d duplex nails, 2 lbs of 8d duplex, 1lb 4d trim nails, & a 3lbs sledgehammer. I stretched out so many sets of elastic suspenders. I paid $75 each bag, $55 belt and hammer loop, & $75 for the harness. All US.
Occidental for me... prefer the horizontal wide setup of the Occidental over the vertical slim setup of the Diamond Back. In the Occidental, I can easily fit M12 or M18 tools in the tool pouch, still hang a nailer while travelling from one place to the other and can also fit a ton of fasteners in the fastener bag as well. Great for scaffold or lift work! One thing on the DB, that nail puller position seems like poor positioning when you need to kneel. Pointy tip and all. I know the Occidental has the same position for the hammer but with a high back hammer holder it is much better. And no pointy tip to hit flooring and calves. Good review and good choice in the OL. Have same setup but in black leather.
Thats something I have learned to appreciate about the Occidentals. The main pouches are big enough you can just dump whatever you are using in there instead of needing to hang it off the belt. Half the time if I am using my hammer a lot it goes in the pouch instead of back on the loop. Same with a drill, or my oscillating tool. The first job I did after getting my belt was a lot of wood rot repair on an older house, and I was constantly using the oscillating tool to cut out rotted sills and jambs. The main pouch is just the right size to grip the battery end and kept it handy with no chance of dropping it to the ground.
You should use the occidental less if you want to keep it. I have had so many sentimental tools that were worn, broken or stolen on jobs. Pretty much have a "treat with care" at home and a "expendable" set for work.
I have both and I find myself longing for both if I do a project with one or the other so I'm happy with it all fyi that diamondback pouch accessory has to be the best thing I've ever had hanging off of my waist in years
I use nylon belts. They don't last as long but its 90+ degrees here 9 months out of the year and very humid so something light weight, dries fast and breathes is best for me.
I wear gator back bags. Just got them about six months ago like them a lot so far. I am a 30 waste so it is hard for me to find bags that fit without getting in the way when I walk, I’ve noticed some bags just rub on my thighs and make it difficult to move. The gator backs stay up where they’re supposed to and like you said they are open so you can reach in easily and see what you have in your bags easily. Are used to wear leather custom bags but I don’t do concrete work anymore so I don’t need anything that hard-core.
I have an old leather tool belt with separate leather pouches (3 different and interchangeable). Cost me about $120 Can. total. I have suspenders for it too but don't like things hanging off my shoulders when i work.
i think i prefer the occidental as well because of the sentimental as well. I really like the open pouches so that i can grab what i need. ive seen that diamondback has made a rig recently to mimick that set up, but i dont see anytime soon that i would need to buy a new rig.
Good review bub. I've been looking at getting either this or the Occidental. Right now I use the tough built because they clip on and off real easy so if I'm doing cabinets I don't have to wear a big rig but if I'm framing or forming concrete I use bigger bags. I think I'm sold though on the Occidental because I like seeing what I'm grabbing for
I don't really use a tool belt I have my own workshop and work mainly in theatre scenery construction here in Wales... But The bigger the tool box the more you put in it and the heavier it gets. I'm guessing its the same with belts... bu that extra big pouch does look useful.... maybe i will get me one
Thanks for the review vids man, very helpfulI. I was split between different tool belts and work trousers so I use both. Phone, van keys and wallet etc goes in work trousers, tools in the tool belt. Flipped between quite a few belts and various holsters and was looking at the diamond back rigs. After seeing the tiny size of the pockets they'd be of no use to me. I've settled on Makitas heavy duty belt system but swap and change the pockets and holders to suit what I'm doing - framing, finishing etc, but my trusty titanium Vaughan has been by my side for a couple of years and still going strong.
That’s interesting cuz I’m in the market for a tool belt as an 18 year old with a year and a half in the trades. Most guys I work with have occidental, one guy has a diamond back and they are both very nice belts but expensive
I bought a singular one of those high dollar tool belts figuring it would be very handy when doing repair work. Wrong, never really needed all those compartments let alone adding more weight to carry around. Used it twice. Still hanging in the same spot, 2 yrs later. If I need something, I have a go-getter.
Hiya Scott, notice you carrying your wood folding rule in your bags...no one uses them on the jobsites I work on-tradition? habit? What am I missing? Digging all the vids, keep em coming!
I think keep what you need for the job in hand in your pouch, keep the rest in an easy to carry tool bag, box or bucket. That way you're not carrying unnecessary weight, its also worth considering if you were to slip or trip you might be landing on those tools, a free swinging hammer in a loop for example has more chance of swinging clear then one in a full sheath between your pouch and leg, that's a bone breaker.
Bought the diamondback Denali setup a year and a half ago. The bags are still as stiff as the day I got them. I've even used a seam cutter to remove most of the unnecessary pockets within pockets, just to try and make more space to get my hands in. Hammer holster and belt are good, bags are just too stiff.
i got the denali pouch set at the time this video released. really like that one, only one thing is the pouches r little bit long for me , sometimes scratched on the ground when i crouch down. anyway the muscle memory is very important, when u get used to the toolbelt, u dont need to check the pockets to make sure its the right stuff u need.
I saw a couple videos of people talking about them had just gotten into the business and fell in love but pricey! I have the Wrangell right pouch hammer holster and 4 inch belt still saving for the left and cats paw holder but A+ quality and customer service is awesome too! love the insight wanna here what he has to say in the long review
I look for bulkiness or better yet is not that. My bucket boss pro is so bulky has large open pockets, storage to satisfy finish carpenter like me. want light weight for working long days, plenty of storage is of good quality. Even though my belt bought it 5 years ago still looks new is military grade denier ballistic nylon. The belt on hot sticky days I sweat more. I torn between demand back the buckle is a good selling point, lot of attachments, durable and priced accordingly The contender gatorback has ar vent system, voted most comfortable, is half of diamonds back, plan to see them in person to decide. Thanks Mr Brown!!!
I love your videos Scott. Watched this many times. I just ordered a Diamondback belt to put my Occi bags on as a test. If I like the way it feels and it impresses me, I may be making the whole switch over from Occi for weight and comfort.
do ocy pouches sit ok with diamondback belt? i got some dimensions from DB, it seems those two sections for pouches are a little to small for oxy pouches? btw what size of the belt you got? thanks
Light weight but functional I’m currently running two belts one for finish work which is simple and compact so tools don’t knock door ways etc and then a general purpose de Walt framers tool belt for everything else. The diamond back belt looks interesting but there’s nothing worse than tight tapered pockets... good review!
I have the DB Raptor set up and I love it for all types pf work. Big enough for framing and slim enough for finish work. I also have some accessory bags I had for specific work. I add a fastener bag for drywall or deck screws so I don't leave any in the bottom of my regular bags. The bags are fairly tight to start but they break in pretty quick. The belt is the most comfortable I've ever used. I don't even use they suspenders (also the most comfortable) half the time.
I run 2 different occidental rigs. One for finish carpentry and one for everything else (mostly framing). I rock the "adjust to fit" finisher and "adjust to fit" framer. Both in black nylon. LOVE THEM
I am no suspender kind of guy and my small waist i prefer the Diamondbacks belt it’s super confortable and do not hurt me after a long day. I like how the pocket on thé Diamondbacks are made i dont l’ost my tool . It’s feel more flexible when i walk with the system. Coming from a system that is like your occi wich i dont really like
I really like your content bro! It's not a step by step instructional DIY. But a VLOG sprinkled with golden nuggets of advice. You have an awesome personality and a true Craftsman! Looking forward to next week's video.
I have his same occidental leather bag, it's a great bag, so well made, but it is so so so heavy! Hurts my shoulder with the shoulder strap, and hurts my back. Unfortunately. But I love it, but it hurts, adding some sheep skin gonna try that.
Wow… that was a cool review video. I definitely think the leather bag has more character and says quality more than the canvas type. But I’m kinda old like that.
I have the traditional Taurus split leg tool belt and before that I had a Lyn river tool belt until I left it out 1 night in London and a bloody fox chewed it
As a carpenter / builder in OZ I can never really understand why some guys ( mainly yanks ) carry so much around in their nailbags ? I wear a 4 pocket leather Buckaroo nailbag separate tape holder , nail punches , dual chisel pouch and pouch for 4 fold rule plus hammer holder ( and phone pouch ) Along with nails or screws loaded up and that's enough ! ( I also wear it at the front of my body .... so you can actually see what you're grabbing ) If you need more than that then it's per task specific ie : you don't really need to carry it around every day .... especially whilst working indoors ! Easily damage walls etc .... with all those metal tools hanging out ! Also tougher on your body / back .... I mean , unless you like Chiropractor bills !
I could SO use that diamondback ! I still use cheap belts and haven't made the big purchase yet on a quality belt. It's a toss up between Occidental and diamondback. I'll take the diamondback off your hands if you still haven't gotten rid of it!
In my country tool belts are rarely used, I have never seen anyone in all of thetrades use tool belts. Vest are very common here. I like to have it very light. But I usually use carpenter pants instead. Much lighter since I have to climb a lot and always be on the move as a concrete framer. But I really want a diamondback tool belt but their so EXPENSIVE to buy and ship. 😰 Hopefully I’ll buy one in the future.
I got a tool belt that consists of DeWalt padded belt kuny’s nail pouch atlas 46 cats paw holder occidental hammer holder little bit of everything been using this setup for the last 8years I would have a hard time switching to another!
I love how honest you are in everything from reviews to "hey I messed this up", or even I really don't know so lets learn". Keep up the awesome videos and keep being awesome."
“It’s still alive, don’t worry” Lol
Good choice keeping the Occidental. I bought mine after watching the Essential Craftsman show his that he has worn for 16 years and still going strong. Something "old school craftsman" about a leather tool belt. If you didn't already have them, the Diamondback would have been a good one too, RR buildings seem to like theirs. I am sure Paerau will get great use out of them.
That guy is a legend, love his videos
I went through a lot of bags from 1976 until 2000 when I seen for the first time the occidental, I was certain enough that I bought two sets complete with the occidental suspenders . My brother was with me and got caught up in my excitement and bought him a bag. I had planned on putting up one of mine but my son who was just getting started pleaded for my extra bag as he noticed how professionally we wore them , after all ......we are master carpenters and builders . I told him he had not enough years to have such a bag and made a big deal for a few weeks and finally gave up my extra bag to him but made him make payments on the bag every week until it was paid. Great bags, tough as a new saddle and takes many years to break one in and more than two decades wearing the same bag .........what else needs to be said...........Hammer time " can't touch this "
I literally just ordered my occidental framer yesterday thanks to essential craftsman
I install drywall (aka wallboard, plasterboard, sheetrock). And from what I've seen Diamondback doesn't have a tool pouch specifically for drywall. And as for a fastener pouch I really only need 2 fastener compartments. Diamondback seems to cater far more to wood framers and more similar trades so I don't think I'll make the switch. I'm also so used to Occidental, if I ever got into wood framing/form work, I'd buy their hammer holster and put it a 8582 FatLip tool pouch as I already have the similar black nylon fat lip fastener pouch.
I still have my occidental pouch and the 5 in 1 hammer loop and found it to be great. But then I realised it was too heavy. I then moved to buckaroo but then was annoyed that the pockets weren't deep enough like the occidental. I went to the US in June and purchased the eagle and rookie pouches from Diamondback but still use the buckaroo suspenders and belt. Its taken me 10 years to find the right set up for me. I love what all of those brands have to offer but at the end of the day, its what works best for you and the type of work you carry out.
Buckeroo belt db pouches are a great match
Are the suspenders a must buy for the buckaroo belt ? Someone was staying they kink the belt up in the back. Iam going to buy the belt and just unsure about the suspenders.
@@codyfrancis4474 I'd try them without first and buy them later if you feel the need to remove some of the weight off your hips
I love my toughbuilt tool belt system! The pouches are not the end all ultimate in design, but they get the job done extremely well.
When I'm on scaffolding and someone goes to do a fastener run, it's nice that I can hand them an extra clip and my fastener pouch. They can quickly add it to their belt (which they don't have to take off) and fill me up too. I also love that I can unclip the pouches to crawl or squeeze through tight spaces. I also like to mount my tool pouch to a stud in reach of the cut station.
I like being able to share my pouches, with my co-workers, by handing them some clips to attach to their belt. "Pass me your driver?" *Click* *click* and my driver is on their hip, holster and all.
I like being able to switch the side my fasteners are on if I need to go lefty. Takes two seconds and now holster is left side and fasteners are right side.
Down sides? Yes. Hammer loops are HUGE. Hate them, especially when on finish work. I have to walk very wide to avoid scraping the walls or trim. I would love to have a deep pocket fastener pouch. It's not that my fastener pouch is bad, and this has yet to happen, but the open pockets they have on the outside make me worry that I will rain screws or nails.
These pouches are affordable, haven't failed me and make an amazingly flexible tool belt. I do recommend.
Side note, their utility pouch is now my every day carry. It carries 2 pencils, 1 pen, 1 marker, tape measure, chalk line, and olfa knife. I clip it into a pocket on my jeans, so that it doesn't get in the way of my tool belt. If I don't need my tool belt, that pouch stays on. Best 12 dollars I've ever spent!
Love my Diamondback Raptor. It takes some convincing to drop $350+ on tool belt but the build quality and detail are worth it IMO. As a remodeler like you, I love how adaptable they are for different types of work. And all the accessory bags make it really easy to customize. I could make a pretty interesting tool belt just with the accessory pouches I have.
I've got 2 on hand all the time, for framing, drywall, and decks I have an off-brand component style tool belt. And for finishing work, trim, doors, flooring, I have an Occidental vest. It took some getting used to, but I find it keeps the tools up off the floor when you're crawling and kneeling down a lot.
I actually just bought Diamondback maestro 701 Vest and really excited to try it......
I run Buckaroo back support belt, suspenders and pouches, similar to occidental but Australian Made, best belt and bag i have owned, still going strong 3 years on
Late to the party here but Occidental all the way. I got a new one about 2 years ago. My first one I bought in '93. Wore it everyday for 25 years. Sent it back for minor repairs and cleaning twice. Great company, great service, great product. I'd never wear another bag.
Ha have the exact same connection with my Occidental
Bought it in California in 2004 which I used there for 11 years then took with me back home to Ireland for a few years then to Auckland for 18 months tho had to leave behind as I was traveling light around SEA.
Now on Canada's west coast banging nails again!
I wear an Occidental rig and I really like the natural work-flow it facilitates. I also like the weight to be on the hip and shoulders. The Diamondback rides at the waist and the bags are tight at the opening. I feel that your review is spot on. Thanks Scott
I think the Occidental belt is a better look on you since that's the belt you started this channel with and have always wore. As a remodel carpenter I think your kit is perfect and not to bulky or overloaded. I'm glad you are keep your original belt. Keep up the great work and thanks for the videos, I have learned a lot from you!
I've been using a MasterForce tool belt I picked up about 4 years ago as a quick replacement and I actually really like it.
Occidental 8580 heritage fat lip with hip buddies and 5055 stronghold suspenders. A sheet metal man dream. Lovem. Almost bought the all leather bags like you have but my nylon bags going strong after 5 years
I have the same Occidental set up, but with the 4 pouch left side. Also to add more slots for tools I took an Occidental Pocket Caddy, cut off the belt strap, and riveted inside the big pouch on my right side.
I bought the Occidental 9855 and love it. What I really appreciate is the option to order handedness, which is huge for a lefty.
Made a big difference for me.
Hi Max where did you buy your tool belt.
@@davidsilverback5722 Amazon, only place I could find it.
Over in Australia, Buckaroo seems to be the go for a high end belt. Similar price to the Dimondback, but that's only if you want to fully kit it out. Love my set to pieces🤙
Love the new ambient bird sound you gonna keep it in the videos XD
Or Building Chef P - uses his Mikita drill to power the rotisserie, for the NZ Song bird.
Lunch anyone?
Problem is recording stuff at sparrowfart in the morning pretty much guarantees you'll get a bird racket as the backing track. I live next to native bush and you pretty much can't do anything involving sound before about an hour past dawn.
Great video as usual. I have a leather tool belt that I have worn my entire building career. I love it. I tried a very similar to the Diamondback belt a few years back, Used it for a week. Went back to my leather tool belt. Don’t see myself giving it up anytime soon.
From Ft Lauderdale, Fl,USA, discouvered the channel about 6 months ago..Why I like it.I get practical tips and hints in every episode,just by watching these two craftsmen working.....I would consider them as cabinet builders, couple steps up from carpenters.Attention to detail.AND care about work surroundings. Really like the work van wish it was sold in the USA. perhaps a review bout it???
I really like the look of the new belt and I would love to try it for work
I have trusted leather rig and a new fancy nylon rig. I went back to the leather just worked for me. I have an open wooden tool box for all the
stuff that I need but, not constantly
the cobra buckle is by far the most liked belt buckle out there. I see that the company got inspired by warbelts.
Holy jesus balls, love the leather tool belt, thought to my self I want a bit of that action, went on amazon.....nearly 800 English pounds....I'll just stick with walking back and forwards to the van like the poor chippy i am.
Are Occidentals really that expensive when facing in everything for you? In the US I just got the 7 Framer bag for $240. I still need the Comfort Suspenders thou.
Working with my dad it's always been small toolbelts filled with the bare minimum and bring excess tools we may want to use in a wheelbarrow/bucket. When one of us is on the roof/on the trusses, it's easy enough for the other to throw things up as needed. It also means you don't have to worry as much about getting snagged while moving around.
At the start of the year when I was helping him I mainly did work pants with need pockets for screws and tin offcuts, and then hung my hammer, gloves and any drills we needed off of my normal belt.
I have that sack bag and it's much more useful than I imagined just for chucking
stuff into
Thanks for the Canada call out! If you ever decide to come back to Canada I could keep you busy pretty much forever!
I look for a tool vest in my tool belts.
Honestly I bought a vest and it’s the best thing. Very comfortable and having chest pockets really comes in handy.
That diamondback does look really nice though. I love the idea of the angled hammer holder. I’m constantly worried about swinging my hammer into finished door frames and such.
Tool vest? What is a tool vest? Just curious
I just tried those clamps you recommended awhile back today..game changer love them thanks for the suggestion!!
Have your exact occidental leathers, love them! I live 10 minutes from occidental California where the company started. So just about everyone in this area rocks Occidental’s. Was thinking about trying the diamond backs, but my bags are still in great shape. Thanks for the review! Love your channel!
I'm a Union carpenter I n the US an I have been using my diamondback tool belt for 7 months, I have washed them once after 2 or 3 months to see if they would break in and make in easier to get my big hands into the pouches to get my nails out but nope it didn't. There are to many places to put tools it seems like nothing has a place, needless to say I will be switching back to Occidental bags in 10 years after these wear out lol
You had me at “reach around”.
My boss bought me a set of occidental bags about 15 years ago. I didn't like the open bags so I kept my old leather home depot bags till about 2 years ago. Found diamondback and used them until a month ago. I'm running an atlas 46 apron now. Going from framing to trim to the shop has steered my choice alot.
I got given a Occidental tool belt without the shoulder straps only used it a couple of times but love it, can definitely feel why the shoulder straps come in handy, at the end of the day I feel like 90 year old who belongs in a rest home, where can I get some shoulder straps from I have looked at mitre 10 and Bunnings and couldn't find them anywhere
In denmark we don't use toolbelts. But it seems like it is handy to have, instead of looking for tool's you can't find
Yeah it's good for the kind of work we do
I got a bucket on a rope. Fits all my tools.
Jack O'Neil so instead of reaching to your waist for fast easy access you rather bend down and search thru your tools in a bucket every single time ?
@@2223-t7e i got the bucket tied around my neck.
That sounds uncomfortable
mrgeorge118 i think you needa mind your own business buddy
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DB is probably a lot lighter. Issue is it’s bigger and holds more tools. And because of that, you add more tools. That cats paw (nail bar) has to weigh a lot on its own. So I think the weight of the tool belt itself, is really only half the battle. The other half is figuring out if you really need to carry around that nail bar. Do you really need two knives. Etc By choosing a smaller tool belt, you’re forced into deciding. The bigger one you don’t have to. And I think that’s why a lot of people choose that. It’s the easier decision. But in most cases, it’s probably the wrong decision.
I use to have the exact same one as your occidental... Sold it to an apprentice after buying and trying out a tool vest!! Way lighter, way more comfy, smaller pouches, easier to fit through rafters, tusses and joist, easier to organize tools and nails and such!! So smaller lighter is better and will be a tool vest from now on!! Snickers or Barklader(spelling might be wrong)
Have to agree, it all matters to what you can see easily in your toolbelt, worst thing is to look for some tool and find it finally in you tool belt that you were carrying with you all along.
I’ve seen these belts on RR Buildings...I would love one
Great channel!
That's the reason I bought one...because of kyle...lol
hearing those birds sing when I'm currently in the arse end of a freezing winter was actually really nice, great video was thinking about a diamondback myself
I live in the UK and we don’t tend to wear tool belts too much as we use work trousers with multiple pockets which in my opinion are a nightmare. Everything ends up in the two larger front pockets and I mean everything, tape measure, pencils, screws, nails etc and even the van keys so you forever find yourself digging through to find what you want, and they also fill up with clippings and dust and crap so the missus hates emptying the pockets lol. Think I will try a tool belt with the harness/suspenders thing ( fly fishing jokes aside haha) in the near future 👍
Get yourself an Occidental Leather tool belt or even better the Oxy tool vest with detectable bags.
😂 I've had a similar experience with the tool trousers, sometimes they are the best option (in a finished home) but more often than not I prefer the Occidental
I bought a set of Snickers tool trousers for my retail job (initially for the kneepads). The extra pockets are a huge bonus as I can keep boxcutters, pens, nikkos, store mobiles, paperwork, etc in them. Still considering getting a couple of the add-on pouches (mostly for the knives etc so i don't end up cutting the pockets out).
I look for a balance between comfort, weight and convenience. I was never a fan of the Diamondback because it tries too hard to fix things that just aren't really a problem. I think all the extra flaps and pouches are unnecessary and even a bit counterproductive at times. However, I very much like the look and feel of Diamondback. The black tactical nylon is very pleasing. I prefer simple, clean and efficient. If I need to add something to a standard tool belt, like a special pouch for a specific function, well there are always after-market options for small additions. I also have a lot of tools that rest in their own attachments in my tool kit that I can just attach to my belt when the need arises, For the most part I only carry the most essential tools like a hammer, speed square, small selection of screw drivers, tape, pencil, etc., on my belt at all times. This kind of forces me to think through my work flow so that I can prepare the necessary tools ahead of time and when I fail to do that properly, my punishment is having to burn some extra calories going back to my tool kit for the bits I missed.
I have a similar approach, keep the tools minimal and change them to suit the job. Variety is what makes our job interesting but it takes a bit of planning to make it work
Both are very good hard decisions
As a multi trade guy, and I know yall going to make fun of me, but Tough Built has my number. Basic belt with 6 clips all around. I can swap bags between framing, finishing, electrical, plumbing, roofing, siding, whatever. Having fast on and off tool pouches that are lighter than leather but hold open like leather is such a huge plus. Going to be using a impact driver a lot while on a ladder slap on the driver holster, done with that and going to use a caulk gun a bunch, clip on my caulk gun holder, or why not both and have a few bags on top of that. Super fast bag and holder swaps is awesome and allows me to be up a latter working longer and more comfortably. Don't quite know why I'm always up a latter, but I feel like that's where I am a lot, maybe cause I hate latter work, have no issues with scaffolding, I just hate latters. For ground work I don't even wear a belt. Half of those bags for the belt system also have a little prop stand built in. So, no belt, or a severely minimised one. The holsters and bags also pull duty on organization, as I have a bunch of the clips on a sawhorse, so all my bags and holsters clip around the saw horse and I can openly see and grab whatever I need.
Love my diamondback. Got the next size up. With 3 pockets on each pouch. So handy with the hammer holster and mine came with a flat bar holster kinda sits just like the hammer but on the opposite side
How does the nail puller holster works as apposed to the hammer holster
@@curtiswilliams7638 works great. Hammer on the right side, nail puller on the left. Took a little getting use to but I love it. Probably could have got away with the same size pouch that scott had. 3 pockets on each side, kinda have to lean to get to the 3rd pocket so I kinda dont use it all that often. But live and learn.
I've never worn a tool belt in my life, but Dixxy (and the bird) were killing it.
Great honest review man!! 👊🏼
When I was just a laborer I kinda regret not getting the occidental bags first. I wore out a clone in nylon finally in 6 years. Nothing like 10 lbs of Simpson pins, 5 lbs of 16d duplex nails, 2 lbs of 8d duplex, 1lb 4d trim nails, & a 3lbs sledgehammer. I stretched out so many sets of elastic suspenders. I paid $75 each bag, $55 belt and hammer loop, & $75 for the harness. All US.
Occidental for me... prefer the horizontal wide setup of the Occidental over the vertical slim setup of the Diamond Back. In the Occidental, I can easily fit M12 or M18 tools in the tool pouch, still hang a nailer while travelling from one place to the other and can also fit a ton of fasteners in the fastener bag as well. Great for scaffold or lift work!
One thing on the DB, that nail puller position seems like poor positioning when you need to kneel. Pointy tip and all. I know the Occidental has the same position for the hammer but with a high back hammer holder it is much better. And no pointy tip to hit flooring and calves.
Good review and good choice in the OL. Have same setup but in black leather.
Thats something I have learned to appreciate about the Occidentals. The main pouches are big enough you can just dump whatever you are using in there instead of needing to hang it off the belt. Half the time if I am using my hammer a lot it goes in the pouch instead of back on the loop. Same with a drill, or my oscillating tool. The first job I did after getting my belt was a lot of wood rot repair on an older house, and I was constantly using the oscillating tool to cut out rotted sills and jambs. The main pouch is just the right size to grip the battery end and kept it handy with no chance of dropping it to the ground.
You should use the occidental less if you want to keep it. I have had so many sentimental tools that were worn, broken or stolen on jobs. Pretty much have a "treat with care" at home and a "expendable" set for work.
I have both and I find myself longing for both if I do a project with one or the other so I'm happy with it all fyi that diamondback pouch accessory has to be the best thing I've ever had hanging off of my waist in years
I use nylon belts. They don't last as long but its 90+ degrees here 9 months out of the year and very humid so something light weight, dries fast and breathes is best for me.
I wear gator back bags. Just got them about six months ago like them a lot so far. I am a 30 waste so it is hard for me to find bags that fit without getting in the way when I walk, I’ve noticed some bags just rub on my thighs and make it difficult to move. The gator backs stay up where they’re supposed to and like you said they are open so you can reach in easily and see what you have in your bags easily. Are used to wear leather custom bags but I don’t do concrete work anymore so I don’t need anything that hard-core.
Sounds like a good belt mate 👍
I have an old leather tool belt with separate leather pouches (3 different and interchangeable). Cost me about $120 Can. total. I have suspenders for it too but don't like things hanging off my shoulders when i work.
I've got that setup. Love the clip, the belt, its fairly light, but the best part for me is the hammer sleeve!
I’m the same way Scott, I almost bought the diamond back but I went with Occidental, tradition 💯👊🏽
i think i prefer the occidental as well because of the sentimental as well. I really like the open pouches so that i can grab what i need. ive seen that diamondback has made a rig recently to mimick that set up, but i dont see anytime soon that i would need to buy a new rig.
Good review bub. I've been looking at getting either this or the Occidental. Right now I use the tough built because they clip on and off real easy so if I'm doing cabinets I don't have to wear a big rig but if I'm framing or forming concrete I use bigger bags. I think I'm sold though on the Occidental because I like seeing what I'm grabbing for
How come you’re moving away from the tough built, despite liking it?
I have a amish community close, they make custom leather bags. Haven't found anything that compares. Get it built your way!
Is it some what comparable with occys?
@@bnbrenovatie I have never worn a occys belt, so I can't answer. I can say they will build them how ever you want and there is no break in period.
I don't really use a tool belt I have my own workshop and work mainly in theatre scenery construction here in Wales... But The bigger the tool box the more you put in it and the heavier it gets. I'm guessing its the same with belts... bu that extra big pouch does look useful.... maybe i will get me one
Thanks for the review vids man, very helpfulI. I was split between different tool belts and work trousers so I use both. Phone, van keys and wallet etc goes in work trousers, tools in the tool belt. Flipped between quite a few belts and various holsters and was looking at the diamond back rigs. After seeing the tiny size of the pockets they'd be of no use to me. I've settled on Makitas heavy duty belt system but swap and change the pockets and holders to suit what I'm doing - framing, finishing etc, but my trusty titanium Vaughan has been by my side for a couple of years and still going strong.
That’s interesting cuz I’m in the market for a tool belt as an 18 year old with a year and a half in the trades. Most guys I work with have occidental, one guy has a diamond back and they are both very nice belts but expensive
I bought a singular one of those high dollar tool belts figuring it would be very handy when doing repair work. Wrong, never really needed all those compartments let alone adding more weight to carry around. Used it twice. Still hanging in the same spot, 2 yrs later. If I need something, I have a go-getter.
Not for everyone, do you go with the work trousers?
Hiya Scott, notice you carrying your wood folding rule in your bags...no one uses them on the jobsites I work on-tradition? habit? What am I missing? Digging all the vids, keep em coming!
Haha I put those straps on that belt too. It’s a great combo
I think keep what you need for the job in hand in your pouch, keep the rest in an easy to carry tool bag, box or bucket. That way you're not carrying unnecessary weight, its also worth considering if you were to slip or trip you might be landing on those tools, a free swinging hammer in a loop for example has more chance of swinging clear then one in a full sheath between your pouch and leg, that's a bone breaker.
Has Pareau reviewed the belt yet?
A very loud and happy 🐦 bird... it obviously liked you talking!!😁
Bought the diamondback Denali setup a year and a half ago. The bags are still as stiff as the day I got them. I've even used a seam cutter to remove most of the unnecessary pockets within pockets, just to try and make more space to get my hands in. Hammer holster and belt are good, bags are just too stiff.
i got the denali pouch set at the time this video released. really like that one, only one thing is the pouches r little bit long for me , sometimes scratched on the ground when i crouch down. anyway the muscle memory is very important, when u get used to the toolbelt, u dont need to check the pockets to make sure its the right stuff u need.
I have the same Diamond back rig and love it!!
how long have you been using it and what kind of work do you do? frame, drywall, remodel, etc.
offroadchevy4x4 ! About 6 months now and i just do general carpentry framing/finishing a bit of everything really
I saw a couple videos of people talking about them had just gotten into the business and fell in love but pricey! I have the Wrangell right pouch hammer holster and 4 inch belt still saving for the left and cats paw holder but A+ quality and customer service is awesome too! love the insight wanna here what he has to say in the long review
Anyone seriously considering a DB or Occidental should look at AKRIBIS Leather. Some price range but much better imo.
I look for bulkiness or better yet is not that.
My bucket boss pro is so bulky has large open pockets, storage to satisfy finish carpenter like me.
want light weight for working long days, plenty of storage is of good quality. Even though my belt bought it 5 years ago still looks new is military grade denier ballistic nylon.
The belt on hot sticky days I sweat more.
I torn between demand back the buckle is a good selling point, lot of attachments, durable and priced accordingly
The contender gatorback has ar vent system, voted most comfortable, is half of diamonds back, plan to see them in person to decide.
Thanks Mr Brown!!!
I love your videos Scott. Watched this many times. I just ordered a Diamondback belt to put my Occi bags on as a test. If I like the way it feels and it impresses me, I may be making the whole switch over from Occi for weight and comfort.
do ocy pouches sit ok with diamondback belt? i got some dimensions from DB, it seems those two sections for pouches are a little to small for oxy pouches? btw what size of the belt you got? thanks
I wish there were more options to have built in impact driver holsters like the clc belts but in diamondback or occidental
Light weight but functional I’m currently running two belts one for finish work which is simple and compact so tools don’t knock door ways etc and then a general purpose de Walt framers tool belt for everything else.
The diamond back belt looks interesting but there’s nothing worse than tight tapered pockets... good review!
I have the DB Raptor set up and I love it for all types pf work. Big enough for framing and slim enough for finish work. I also have some accessory bags I had for specific work. I add a fastener bag for drywall or deck screws so I don't leave any in the bottom of my regular bags. The bags are fairly tight to start but they break in pretty quick. The belt is the most comfortable I've ever used. I don't even use they suspenders (also the most comfortable) half the time.
I run 2 different occidental rigs. One for finish carpentry and one for everything else (mostly framing). I rock the "adjust to fit" finisher and "adjust to fit" framer. Both in black nylon. LOVE THEM
I mix it up with three tool belts. Some jobs need bigger belts. Some jobs are stationed around a work bench.
I am no suspender kind of guy and my small waist i prefer the Diamondbacks belt it’s super confortable and do not hurt me after a long day. I like how the pocket on thé Diamondbacks are made i dont l’ost my tool . It’s feel more flexible when i walk with the system. Coming from a system that is like your occi wich i dont really like
I really like your content bro! It's not a step by step instructional DIY. But a VLOG sprinkled with golden nuggets of advice. You have an awesome personality and a true Craftsman! Looking forward to next week's video.
Need some feedback from Paerau on the diamond back tool belt, Scott
I have his same occidental leather bag, it's a great bag, so well made, but it is so so so heavy! Hurts my shoulder with the shoulder strap, and hurts my back. Unfortunately. But I love it, but it hurts, adding some sheep skin gonna try that.
I’ve got the same occidental belt and love it
Wow… that was a cool review video. I definitely think the leather bag has more character and says quality more than the canvas type. But I’m kinda old like that.
I have the traditional Taurus split leg tool belt and before that I had a Lyn river tool belt until I left it out 1 night in London and a bloody fox chewed it
Robert Ross random haha
As a carpenter / builder in OZ I can never really understand why some guys ( mainly yanks ) carry so much around in their nailbags ?
I wear a 4 pocket leather Buckaroo nailbag separate tape holder , nail punches , dual chisel pouch and pouch for 4 fold rule plus hammer holder ( and phone pouch )
Along with nails or screws loaded up and that's enough !
( I also wear it at the front of my body .... so you can actually see what you're grabbing )
If you need more than that then it's per task specific ie : you don't really need to carry it around every day .... especially whilst working indoors !
Easily damage walls etc .... with all those metal tools hanging out !
Also tougher on your body / back ....
I mean , unless you like Chiropractor bills !
Good fair honest review👍
I could SO use that diamondback ! I still use cheap belts and haven't made the big purchase yet on a quality belt. It's a toss up between Occidental and diamondback. I'll take the diamondback off your hands if you still haven't gotten rid of it!
In my country tool belts are rarely used, I have never seen anyone in all of thetrades use tool belts. Vest are very common here. I like to have it very light. But I usually use carpenter pants instead. Much lighter since I have to climb a lot and always be on the move as a concrete framer. But I really want a diamondback tool belt but their so EXPENSIVE to buy and ship. 😰 Hopefully I’ll buy one in the future.
Great video as always! Just yesterday I bought a (cheap) tool belt because it makes woodwork, framing/roofing so much more efficient!
Super video! ... I would also like a belt from this one with bags, but in Romania we don't earn so well, and we can't afford it!
Great viddy Scott, got yourself there a diamond back beer pouch! 🍻
Lol I'll put some ice in the bottom
I got a tool belt that consists of DeWalt padded belt kuny’s nail pouch atlas 46 cats paw holder occidental hammer holder little bit of everything been using this setup for the last 8years I would have a hard time switching to another!
Paddo is gona b sick as with the all black belt on
I like diamondback design, looks like tactical belt. 🙂
Think it's time for your to try a badger tool belt scot :)
I have a set of Oxylights (Black nylon and leather) and really like them. Like you said, having those open pouches are very helpful.