Down4Sound Vs Big Jeff audio lithium car audio battery comparison test D4S LTO 6.0 Big Jeff 22ah
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Checking out 2 of the smallest car audio Lithium batteries form Big jeff Audio and Down4Sound.
All battery manufacturers rate the max amperage output of batteries at 7.2 to 8v. NO companies rate the output at 12v. I provide 2 tests for reference but the 10v is more relevent and even higher than the manufacturers max output voltage. But for car audio I see no sense in testing at 7.2 or 8v as car audio that is too low.
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I WAS LITERALLY SEARCHIING FOR THIS COMPARISON FOR 2 DAYS!!! THANK YOU
Then you're wasting your life and terribly misinformed.
nothing is that serious dude lol@@champion31337
@@champion31337why?
Im in the market for a battery or a couple of them for an 8k. Thinking about just building one. I want to see real world results. Have these batteries hooked up in a car playing heavy bass decaf more precisely with an alternator charging them.
That will determine who the winner is. Real world results. Does battery A charge faster than B? Does battery A hold cutrent better? Or B? For the amount that both are i can build one way bigger
Is the decal with Big Jeffs mug on it removable ??
That's hilarious I was going to ask the same thing. Don't need his ugly mug on there wearing bling😂
Same. I don't want that overweight, liar in anything I own. That's why I'll prob go on and get a glowe voltage under 500( support 12k, 720amps
It’s a sticker so I’m sure it could be removed.
HiFi Vector please test these against your Headway Builds. Interesting to see the comparison.
The difference is the amp hours. One battery is 22 ah vs 6 ah. You could have the same cells but the 22 ah vs the 6 ah will allow more current being drawn before voltage drop.
They are the same price though 😢
Moderators are going to be busy deleting this video from the d4s facebook group.
Haha
😮 whys that?, illegal use of material?
Well it's not to fair the jp is only like 5 or 6 ah. Bj is 22ah now he should compare it to the jp 40 it's only 100 buck more than the big jeff battery.
Umm not when space is a big factory.. the 6.0 will fit behind my rear seats in my pickup.. just barley clears in angle of the seat backs and that’s because it’s so short and narrow..
And let be real here.. 22ah at that size? I could do a same size agm battery and pull 45-65 in same size factor.
Not apples to apples..
That lto will also drop into the empty space under the carpet at the rear fenders if many cars.. the big Jeff will not..
Infact I can fit two 6.0 in my daughter car this way one one each side just using otherwise useless wasted space.. a lot to be said for the size and making it more useful
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open them up. what's inside?
I'd be interested in a comparison between the Big Jeff battery and a Glowe Voltage battery. Both about the same price (Glowe is $50 more) but Glowe series 2 claims to support literally 2x the power (Glowe 2 claims to support 12k watts vs Big Jeff claims to support just 6k watts).
This would be an amazing comparison as i want to get that glowe 2 myself. Insane power to value ratio
Cool test. Great idea. I think for us bassheads tho this test doesnt say much. In a car supported by an alt and supplying a 5k or 8k would give us real world comparison of what to expect for voltage drop. We appreciate your efforts tho hifi
Well keep in mind ALL car batteries max output is rated at 7.2 to 8v. I did not even test that low. But this is useful because you can see what output the battery can provide Standalone. If you look at other car audio manufacturers they rate max output at 7.2v because this has been the automotive industry standard for decades. But I only go to 10v which is way higher voltage than what others rate max output at. But obviously I think testing at 7.2 volts would be silly for car audio. But the 10v test is relevant and even higher than the 7.2v that manufacturers use. So this gives you an idea of a more usable amperage output. And when added to your system with an alternator that will even keep the voltage higher.
What is each amp hour rating of these the big Jeff says 22 on it but the d4s has me confused is it 6ah like the name? This would explain the huge reserve difference at high load.
Yes it is..6ah..
You should try the Metal Cased Jag35 battery. It's only 399 for a 74AH!
He did a torture test with the 148ah version. It can hold over 800 amps continuously at 12.3 to 12.5 volts. So the 74ah version should hold that voltage with a 400 amp draw.
What is the difference between the ultracap battery uh31 vrs 22ah lutimm? Thanks
Ultra caps aren’t batteries so a battery will provide power longer. Ultra caps charge faster than a battery but store less power.
@Hifivector did you purchase those Fluke ( model 871 im just assuming )meters individually or with the Clamp/iFlex?
I bought both with the flex clamp.
Great video as always man and I appreciate your hard work but to be honest what can we do with 10 volts in the car audio business I'm looking at blowing a hamper or something if I'm dropping that low so I don't really understand how that kind of information can help me any but thank you very much for what you do
I did mention it in the video a couple times but the reason is because all batteries max amp output which is ca or cca is actually rated at 7.2V this is because this has been the industry standard for decades. So when you see any car audio battery like XS agm or others even they rate the max output is at around 8v. No one rates batteries at 12V. I just do the 12v test to provide 2 different tests. So even at 10v , that is higher than what companies rate their batteries at. When installed with an alternator because the alternator is charging is will raise that voltage up. But standalone the batteries are rated at about 8v.
@@HiFiVector thank you very much. Now i understand. Appreciate you man.
Thanks so much brother and thanks for watching
Please try glowe voltage s3. Similar in size to big jeffs battery. Or try the trunk thunder lithium 10k.
All 💩 this going to be awesome 💯💯💯💯💯💯
Thanx for this video. Now i know wich one to buy
Glad I could help
Mr. Hifi I saw a comment about comparing these to headway builds if you do will you please include one with the lev60f from jag35. They're in the same price range as the d4s and big Jeff
Anyone know how these perform in very cold Temps like -25c/-13f
Not well no lithium is rated for that cold of weather u have to run a heater keeping them warm if it's dumb cold outside in ur car.
Is it possible to get a test on the Critical Mass CM-LB 6000 battery please?? Thanks.
Not sure what I just saw but I definitely can tell you big Jeff did better
What did you use to charge the batteries?
Victor men,, they Took the page down on amazon for the charger😢
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Can you run these by running cable back from your battery under the hood to one of these in the back
Yes
Is big jeff Good for 1/0 big 3 wiring, and a 320 amp alt? Looking to pair with taramps smart 5 down to .5 ohm
Should work pretty good for that setup.
Question: Can you run two of those with one in the front taking the place of the traditional lead battery and one in the back. Direct connection one to the other without any problems?
Maybe I am wrong but I don’t believe these are built to handle the engine compartment heat. Most lithium’s are not unless they are made to be a starting battery replacement.
@@HiFiVector thanks man
You’re very welcome
Hey man what kind of a charger did you use on these? If I purchased one of these, what kind of charger do I need to buy to charge it before I can use it. Thank you man.
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Nice man thanks 👍🤞
awesome video !!!
Thanks!!
Are the big jeff compatible with an agm battery up front?
Yes, but it’s always good to use a battery isolator they’re only like 30 bucks.
@@HiFiVector what if your car is equipped with a "smart altenator"?
Can either be ran under hood as main battery?
No most lithium can’t be run under the hood unless they are specifically made to replace your under the hood battery. To be able to be safe with the heat of the engine compartment.
Cool video, you think a xs power 4900(100ah) AGM with a mechman 370 and either 1 of these lithium batteries will keep my voltage pretty steady with a salt 3
Thanks man. Go with the big Jeff for sure but with it yes you will be good.
@HiFiVector awesome‼️ Yeah I was looking at the xs titan 8 pwr s5 lithium as well maybe to go with but the big jeff is little cheaper as well as 22ah over the titan 8 being like 10ah
In this scenario what happens if you have less alt power? Say closer to 200amp. Do you just add more batteries? Salt 3 can pull over 350amps at full tilt.
With a 200 amp and some good lithium’s you will be good with 3k. With box rise the amp won’t pull full current like on a dyno.
Yeah that’s a baby bass amp😂😂😂
Headway Bank for the Win.
What the chemistry differences?
D4s LTO, Bug Jeff LiFePo4
When it comes to lithium batteries it's all about the BMS and the type of charging system and even the system that doesn't let the battery's to low. And all those electric cars that just had their battery packs freeze up, they are now potential for electric car fires🔥
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Great video ! Md❤
holy crap im first !!!!
Get the Down4sound jp40 does more power then both of these batteries 40ah for 500 dollars.
Wow that used to be over $1000 wonder why they dropped the price so low?
@@HiFiVector yea they have been putting it on sale since it came out it used to be on sale for 800$ then 600$ and now 500$
@@HiFiVector you should get one and make a video on it man it would be awesome no one has made a video on these except for JP
@@AudioAddict.I been running a Jp40 since release date on a DD 5k in a diesel sprinter so far it’s been great, I wish he would do a video on the JP40.
@@2008guelo hell yea man I gotta install the jp40 still but I’m going to put it back there with the down4sound LTO 6.0 I got should do good
They're the same price right now
Big Jeff is way more powerful so if they’re the same price price, definitely the Big Jeff wins
You have a 5s LTO scib 2.9 bank vs a eve Panasonic 22ah LiFePO4 cell, of course the Panasonic wins. I use the 20ah Panasonic cells instead.
Can u hook up big Jeff lithium battery directly without an isolator??
The resting voltage of the lead acid battery is lower than the lithium battery. One battery drains the other when the car is off. You can remove the lead or isolate the lithium. You can directly connect them but if your car sets long enough the alternator is going to go crazy trying to charge the low charge lithium battery. Also if your going to put an isolator in factor in the ohms of resistance of the isolator into your all around loss to get proper power to amps.
@vegetable206 ok then..I have 2 of the lto's but no isolator tho..works fine in my vehicle..the draining part I haven't had that issue yet..
Forgot to mention that charging your lithium with max current from your alternator may shorten the life of the batteries.
@vegetable206 now I didn't kno dat..how do I avoid dat problem??
@FuckUA-camCensorship2024 oh ok..mines is hooked up to the charger. Not my alt..I was just wondering
What cells are these batteries using? And compare that to the cost of $300 -400 vs putting one together yourself. Is it still worth it
@@jimmiedean8035 wow thx
Not sure on what type of cells they use but you have to keep in mind a lot of people aren’t mechanically inclined and they do not want to mess with trying to build a lithium bank so those are the people that would buy these premade lithiums. But I tested it down for sound and XS power titan 8 s5 And this battery is as good as the xs power lithium and better than the D4s so for the price and buy it and go it’s a winner.
@HiFiVector of course you will always have those that perfer not to. I had zero clue on what I was doing and managed to get a 32ah then 64 now up to 92ah bank put together.. The thought is scarier than doing it lol
How much is big jeff ? And to run 8k RMS system how many we would need guys? Any suggestions?
About $400 and a lot depends on your alternator and wiring but 2 should do it.
@@HiFiVector OEM alternator
Wiring solid 0
What type of vehicle?
@@HiFiVector e class mercedes 2.2d saloon
My concern is if I hook 6x45ah yinglong Lithium cells
Can I simply remove AGM battery and leave the cells only for the car and system?. cells has BMS
Thank you sir for taking your time to answer my questions🙏🤜
It’s best to use a battery isolator like this.
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Easy to hook up and you can leave your main car battery connected with the lithiums. But your alternator isn’t that big so that’s what will be limiting you.
Why does alt size matter when everyone says you cant hook these up to your alternator..Its confusing..Can you use these like you would a reg battery ,2nd battery in the trunk...
You can add these to your system as a 2nd battery yes. And they will charge by your alternator just like any other battery. It’s a good idea to use a battery isolator for the lithium when using with a standard battery so when the car is off the regular battery doesn’t drain the lithium down.
Just buy a super beast and convert it to 12v 96ah. That's what Ive got planned for my build.
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You’re not supposed to charge 5s LTO above 14v
14.6-14.8 max
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It's not a fair comparison..22ah vs 6ah..
The point of the video was to compare 2 similar price batteries. So just showing what you get for similar price.
@@HiFiVector gotcha..on that it makes sense..it's not really to far apart in power output at 12v so that shows how the 6.0 is actually a better battery.
@@MyBlowncobra I agree, they both do similar numbers at 12v. And the big Jeff battery has 16 more AH than the D4S. I actually went with the D4S and I'm impressed.
guy's dollar for dollar go with headway's great video HIFI. headway's are more work to get together if that's a issue and you want easy plug and play these are good choices depending on you sitch.
D4S has a 12,000 - 20,000 watts
Battery as well
Lol no lol he doesn't. But yes, on another note, God is indeed very good.
@@champion31337 yes they do its like $1,200
@@champion31337 do your research bud
Big jeffs battery is bigger period
Neither of those battries worth buying.
I’ve heard only good things about both these batteries, but Big Jeff ftw 🦾🔊
I’m not sure what this test proves. JP is a 6ah vs BJ 22ah which is 3.5 times more in Ah. Kinda of a no brainer and a waste of time comparing these two.
@@evilinside5984 incorrect I’m Full D4S that battery normally 399 or 499 he did a sale at 299 for Christmas not battery claim to support 5k! Folks make it out to a battle but JP could care less!
Yes, I'd take him or anyone for that matter over a dueschbag that treats first time customers like a pile of shit. I agree.
@@champion31337 JP treats customers like this, or Jeff?
but the both battery had similar numbers on 12v. So I would say the D4S is better for a 12v system