French Sock Toe // Technique Tuesday
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- Опубліковано 3 сер 2024
- This video demonstrates the French Toe (from Weldon's Practical Stocking Knitter, published 1886). This toe requires a multiple of 6 sts, so how to work decrease set up rows that flow into the regular sock toe decreases is explained, as well as how to modify the toe to get the exact length you need.
While the toe is demonstrated with the starting point at the center of the instep, you can start it at the center of the sole, if you would prefer the reverse side of the sock facing up.
The original instructions from Weldon's Practical Stocking Knitter are as follows:
"This is a pretty toe, but rather short, due allowance must therefore be made for it in knitting the foot. The stitches are to be divided equally upon three needles, with the first stitch of the first needle exactly in the centre of the foot. 1st round -- Knit 1, slip 1, knit 1, pass the slipped stitch over, knit to within 3 stitches of the end of the needle, knit 2 together, knit 1, work similarly upon each of the other two needles. 2nd round -- Plain. Repeat these two rounds until the toe is reduced to 12 stitches; place them equally upon two needles and cast off.
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To jump to a specific point in the video, click on the adjacent time-stamped links:
Introduction 0:00
What is a French Toe: 0:25
Setting up the French Toe: 1:34
How to work the decrease rounds: 3:28
Planning for the toe closure: 5:28
Finishing the toe/setting up for the closure: 7:31
What to do if you need a setup decrease round: 9:48
Modifying the French Toe (length): 12:59
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I am French, knitting for 60 years, and never seen a toe done like this in France!!!
Well, it's a toe from an 1886 stocking book. There are lots of things that were done at that time that we don't see much (if at all) today!
Another knitter here on You-tube announced a "danish way" of holding the two threads in a weird way, in the left hand by Fair Isle knitting, I have never seen that done anywhere here in Denmark.
Maybe these country-names of techniques just relate to a strange or new way - someone maybe learnt form a knitter from that country . I think its better to call techniques by a name which relates to its form or looks. This could be a three-pointed star-toe. But thanks to you Roxanne - its not meant as criticism. Love your youtubes.
@@pialindeg In this case, this is a very old sock toe technique that was given that label in a knitting publication from 1886. Anyone who has seen Weldon's Practical Stocking Knitter will have seen this toe with that label. I didn't make this one up! :-)
@@RoxanneRichardson Oh no - that was not what I meant - I am so sorry. I never thought so - I just meant that the name comes from somewhere at some time. I have heard about Weldons, and of course, I know you well enough to know that you are always well informed and prepared. Remember me, being Danish, my english can seem a little clumsy sometimes. Pia
@@pialindeg Oh, but I've been known to make up techniques with names like this! :-) I gave German Short Rows their name. I had only seen them in sources translated from German. The book I learned them from called them "Shortened Rows with Stitches Passed Over". I couldn't figure out if they had any sort of shorter name, rather than a description, and because they gave the same result as Japanese short rows (which I'm told aren't Japanese!), I figured German short rows made sense. It was only later that I discovered some knitters called them "double stitch short rows". I think when people want to share a technique, they try to give credit to the source, and often they don't know how else to identify it.
HI glanced at the title from the corner of my eyes and was just sure that I read “French sock it toe me”
Thanks for the video, Rox! I used this in my latest sock and am very pleased with the result. I was afraid that the decrease strip in the middle of my instep would bother me, but no. Comparing the wedge toe with the French toe, I find that the wedge toe has a tendency to twist front to back a little (aargghh!), whereas the triangulation of the three decrease strips of the French toe keeps them in place 👌.
I really enjoyed watching you plan out the modification for this toe. Thank you!
I'd never heard of this toe so thank you for teaching it!
I was wanting to try this one! I saw it online in a collection of sock toes, along with the Star Toe. However the instructions used a different decrease, skpo, like Mr. KCB describes below. Sock Toes can be fun! Thanks for working out the decreases too, for more stitch widths.
I always love these informative videos! Who knew how interesting toes could be! 🥰
Very interesting. I think that I will try this next time
Anyway I just love to take a look and try out as many heel- and toe- variations as possible - whatever name they have. And if anyone can tell a story about it, I am happy. But still I think its better to call a technique a name which describes it. All these russian, german and french things are just a bit confusing. But maybe thats more of a European habit. We are different people and therefore we can learn from eachother. And thanks Roxanne for all your nice videos I enjoy every one of them.
Thank you for the tutorial😆
interesting. i recognized the technique name becuse of nancy bush's "knitting vintage socks" book, where she updated techniques and patterns from "weldon's practical needlework." but she does/they do it differently... starting at the middle of the sole, not the instep, using a S1//K1/PSSO instead of an SSK, and closing the last 12 stitches threading working yarn through with tapestry needle like one would with a hat crown. would be interesting to see the pros and cons of the various methods. thanks for demonstrating! 😉
SKP (sl1-k1-psso) produces an untwisted, left-leaning decrease, which is the same result as an ssk. They are simply two techniques that bring you to the same endpoint. The instructions in Weldon's are quite terse, and say simply to start at the center of the foot. For whatever reason, I decided that meant to start in the center of the instep, but you could start it at the center of the sole, if you prefer, depending on the effect you want. The finishing instructions are to place the sts "equally upon two needles and cast off," which at that time typically meant to do a 3NBO.
Youll see more of a difference between the left leaning decs when working stranded patterns.
Thank You
I might use this for a hat decrease 😁
Hi, my favorite UA-camr - woman, it's so fine and nice, that top of a sock and you, as allways, made a very good video with all one could ever explain. Thank you therefore so much(can l say so?)!!! ls there a chance to watch a vid. Tos Up? Toe Up is my favorite and l'd like not to invent it on my own mind. I'm not as well as you are, especially in theese days, l'm ill and my fever doesn't led me think very well. Thank you for a quick answer!
Nice one
LOVE your tee! Roxanne, have you evervheard of toejacks...used to kitchener sock toes. found on Etsy, of course.
When I was young (long time ago....) I remember I made a toe which was toe-formed.It was very popular here in Denmark where I live in the late 1970 and start 1980. I havenot found it myself as I no longer have my old sockpatterns. Do you know that?
Roz, have you looked hard at your "what to do for a setup decrease round? You say, "you need to add stitches at these points and write "+1," but then you instruct to decrease at those points. Is it just a slip of the tongue & pen where it's too much trouble to redo that part of the video, or is it my migraine talking?
Hmmmmm, how interesting!
As a toe up sock knitter, my head immediately goes to how to modify this for toe-up knitting! Has anyone tried this?
It's pretty straightforward to reverse it. Closed CO, mark the center of one of the halves as the start of the round, divide the round into thirds, and work increases instead of decreases, alternating with plain rounds.
@@RoxanneRichardson I'm going to try this on my next pair of sox. I really like the look of that toe!
@@katherinemaas6712 I just cast on 12 sts with Judy’s Magic Cast-on, divided them among three DPNs, and began increasing at each end of each needle every other round (inc 6 sts/round). Looks good so far!
how would this work if you work toe up?
They say start at the middle of bottom of foot but I like the way you start. What would be the difference in the sock please
Aesthetics.
Thank you rather do it your way because I like your videos and they always turn out lovely.
Is this the same as the star toe?
No.