Finally… someone who can explain this so I can understand it and not put me to sleep! Appreciated 👍 Otherwise when linking my interface to an ADAT expander I most likely would have assumed an adat cable alone was enough.
After a dozen years of buying high-end rack mount equipment I finally "Get it" about Wordclock and Timecode thanks to this simple video. Bravo I was living in a cloud. Now to solve my issues of switching from Music recording sound to movie recording sound and Timecode~ expensive nonsense.
I run two RME PCI Cards and 3 Lucid 8 channel ad/da and three others. I use a ATI Master clock and distribution clock amplifier. I am living the dream, 52 channels of audio into my console.
Hello, I have a rosetta 200 and I intend to use it with an apogee quartet. the apogee quartet will be connected to my pc I intend to use the out 5/6 to output the sound from the daw process in my art pro vla 2 compressor and enter the rosetta 200 to convert to A/D using the optical cable Out from the rosetta 200 to the In adat of the apogee quartet. Is using word lock in this case interesting and should it work? the apogee quartet has a WC out the apogee rosetta 200 has WC In and Out. Will the Apogee Rosetta 200 be the master in fact?
I still use word clock from my Yamaha 02R to my two Motu 828 mk2 running 16 digital channels into my computer via FireWire. I have an Akai S5000 as the last machine in the chain. Don’t forget to BNC terminate the last machine. It makes a huge difference to the sound. All BNC cables should be 75 ohms and the same length.
I have the Orion 3232 and all my instruments are analog no digital cables synths and la2a and a mixer but all analog connectors no digital. And running into my Daw do I need one ?
So if i have a nice interface like Metric Halo and i record also att the same time thrue my Octopre thru ADAT sholud i have my Interface as master? World clock out from Metric Halo and in to my Octopre?
I have a universal audio apollo 8 , 16 both unit thunder bolt with upgrated by black lion audio as well as a universal audio 4-710d. Do o still need a clock source and what model brand would you refer. I most track keywords amd drum machine amd some vocals here and their.
Can I synchronize my two computers runing each on ableton live to the same clock by connecting their soundcards via their wordclock BNC plugs and can it replace midi synchronization ?
if your sync is working with the optical connection you don't need to connect word clock cable. since it's depends on the products involved the only way to know if you experience "improvement" from word clock cable it tasting the signal noise floor. jitter manifest itself as noise floor but 99% of the time the jitter noise will be lower than other noise contributing parts in the chain.
So what if Im just running 2 different preamps? I'm trying to utilize my 12 channel hybrid mixer with an ISA 428 and 828, 12 channels of SLIGHTLY portable awesome. Does these get ADAT and word clock to sync? And which is the lock vs slave?
Hi ! Nice video. I have an Apollo Twin X, only has ADAT in. And I am running an Audient Mico (2preamps with AD conversion into Apollo through ADAT cable inside ADAT in of Apollo). Only Mico has word clock in, so Apollo Twin X is slave and Mico is master. Does this affects the audio convertion quality of the Apollo? Help please.
Hi, I have the Arturia AudioFuse ( Audio Interfase ).. Do I need to buy a Word Clock Device / Equipment or not ? ; And in the Case ( Yes ) Which One I Should Buy ? ** In Advance: Thank So Much for Your Help and Support on this Questions.
I’m running 3 Avid 16-I/O interfaces and a Trinnov D-Mon 6. I’ve just purchased an Antelope OCXHD as a master clock but, nobody’s told me whether or not to remove the loop sync cables from the 16-I/Os. ???
Everything has to be connected somehow to the master. Loop cables should stay in for the interfaces. Otherwise they wouldn't have any connection to clock. And loop sync is proprietary and better than standard word. Thanks!
My audio interface does not have any jacks for clock cables (spdif, adat, etc). I have a basic UMC404HD by Behringer. How would I incorporate a word clock device to my Behringer? I ask this question because I plan to purchase dedicated mic preamps in the future so I have more varieties of preamps. So, in my case, do I need a master clock device? I shall wait for your response. Thanks in advance.
i own the antelope synergy core .i want to use adat and spdif together .my question is do i have to connect antelope and the other pres with word colck? or just connect only the spdif with word clock ?
Thanks for the very interesting Video. Does it matter if I synchronise two audio interfaces together over wordclock or ADAT? I'm having a focusrite scarlett 18i20 2nd gen. and I would like to buy another 8 channel interface (as a slave).
The $6k clock from Antelope needs to be put in perspective. Its not what I would consider expensive when you consider the following mistake most "producers" have made. You've spent years trying to reverse engineer all platinum hit recordings released from Warner brothers, and many others, and don't want to waste 1 million dollars building a studio, buying the $250k console, and fill the back wall with $150k in rack gear, only to realize you can't achieve the same sound as Warner. In a realization of your foolish mistake you sell off everything and mix on your laptop with a $6k master clock, knowing this to have been the secret all along. The SOS test was done by someone who doesn't understand this. You really only notice a difference when you are playing back multitracks with 40 plugins, and multiple sub mix effects running.
Sorry but this is completely audiophile nonsense. First, the price of products today have nothing to do with the quality of the final results. What you probably earing is experience and good workmanship. Save your money. Antelope atomic clock and other master clock promising better performance is pure marketing nonsense. Playing 40 channel multitracks or 2 channel audio will not "show this difference" in jitter, this disproof many times before, to play 40 channels you will need to lower the volume of each, whatever change in sound/side effect will be lowered in the same magnitude. Master clock are used to sync multiple units. that it. Most of "clock recivers" reclock the clock signal so any "improvement" would be "lost" even if it was true. If you saying improvement can be heard but not tested this is audiophile nonsense by definition, all parameters of exact audio reproducing are known and this proved many times by null testing. Ask yourself one question, If this was true and master clock could improve sound, why any of this brands don't publish a clear tests that show exactly that?
So if I have 3 interface two of which I use adapt to expand plus a dangerous ad convert which is my last ad conversion So if I purchase a master clock what unit would be the input into that clock My main interface and the out of that clock to all units. I’m a bit confused as you can tell. I am currently having an issue with distortion in one of my focusrite adapt signals
Cinema Sound I figured the units clock although a high end unit. Focusrite Red 16 was not handling the multiple adapts too two other units plus the bnc to the ad convert which is , I believe resulting in the Adat not functioning properly on one of the units. Very distorted. Thought perhaps a dedicated master clock for all units might give me better results
I have an Apollo interface and I have a friend who have the same but with an external clock and he keep telling me that I need to buy one to see the difference in the plugins response and clarity ... how true is that?? He keep saying that he can’t work with out it...
You're the man! I never really understood what Word Clock was despite the fact I've been recording stuff for like 15 years. Thank you.
Finally… someone who can explain this so I can understand it and not put me to sleep! Appreciated 👍
Otherwise when linking my interface to an ADAT expander I most likely would have assumed an adat cable alone was enough.
After a dozen years of buying high-end rack mount equipment I finally "Get it" about Wordclock and Timecode thanks to this simple video. Bravo I was living in a cloud. Now to solve my issues of switching from Music recording sound to movie recording sound and Timecode~ expensive nonsense.
You had my attention until you unnecessarily inserted (Ebonics)? Why?
I run two RME PCI Cards and 3 Lucid 8 channel ad/da and three others. I use a ATI Master clock and distribution clock amplifier. I am living the dream, 52 channels of audio into my console.
Oh, so the term "word clock" is a format for a synchronization clocking signal?
Hello, I have a rosetta 200 and I intend to use it with an apogee quartet.
the apogee quartet will be connected to my pc
I intend to use the out 5/6 to output the sound from the daw process in my art pro vla 2 compressor and enter the rosetta 200 to convert to A/D using the optical cable Out from the rosetta 200 to the In adat of the apogee quartet.
Is using word lock in this case interesting and should it work?
the apogee quartet has a WC out
the apogee rosetta 200 has WC In and Out.
Will the Apogee Rosetta 200 be the master in fact?
I still use word clock from my Yamaha 02R to my two Motu 828 mk2 running 16 digital channels into my computer via FireWire. I have an Akai S5000 as the last machine in the chain. Don’t forget to BNC terminate the last machine.
It makes a huge difference to the sound.
All BNC cables should be 75 ohms and the same length.
I have the Orion 3232 and all my instruments are analog no digital cables synths and la2a and a mixer but all analog connectors no digital. And running into my Daw do I need one ?
So if i have a nice interface like Metric Halo and i record also att the same time thrue my Octopre thru ADAT sholud i have my Interface as master? World clock out from Metric Halo and in to my Octopre?
This is actually a very descent and nice way to describe it 🍻
Thank you so much sir for your packaged information.
I have a universal audio apollo 8 , 16 both unit thunder bolt with upgrated by black lion audio as well as a universal audio 4-710d. Do o still need a clock source and what model brand would you refer. I most track keywords amd drum machine amd some vocals here and their.
Can I synchronize my two computers runing each on ableton live to the same clock by connecting their soundcards via their wordclock BNC plugs and can it replace midi synchronization ?
if your sync is working with the optical connection you don't need to connect word clock cable.
since it's depends on the products involved the only way to know if you experience "improvement" from word clock cable it tasting the signal noise floor. jitter manifest itself as noise floor but 99% of the time the jitter noise will be lower than other noise contributing parts in the chain.
So what if Im just running 2 different preamps? I'm trying to utilize my 12 channel hybrid mixer with an ISA 428 and 828, 12 channels of SLIGHTLY portable awesome. Does these get ADAT and word clock to sync? And which is the lock vs slave?
So wait does it have to do with Ebonics? I don't get it. Thank You
It was a bad joke.
Louie yeah, seemed like a weird shot.
Word
$100 says he's got an iron cross on his tummy 😂
That Ebonics joke sucked
Hi there , i am going to record on 12 -16 channels - Can you please suggest sound card interfaces and possible a sync box to centralize the clock.
Hi ! Nice video. I have an Apollo Twin X, only has ADAT in. And I am running an Audient Mico (2preamps with AD conversion into Apollo through ADAT cable inside ADAT in of Apollo). Only Mico has word clock in, so Apollo Twin X is slave and Mico is master. Does this affects the audio convertion quality of the Apollo? Help please.
no word clock out on apollo twin x far as I've seen
Good job explaining.
In my system I have to possibility to use word clock or Dante. Which would you recommend?
It’s good for mixing too it does the same with plugins... and in 96kz or more u can hear the difference..
Hey Cinema Sound!!! I wonder what could have been the other way to describe this stuff. You are awesome!!! Great.....!!! Please keep guiding us
Hi, I have the Arturia AudioFuse ( Audio Interfase ).. Do I need to buy a Word Clock Device / Equipment or not ? ; And in the Case ( Yes ) Which One I Should Buy ? ** In Advance: Thank So Much for Your Help and Support on this Questions.
only if your running another device with it, not if that is your only device
I’m running 3 Avid 16-I/O interfaces and a Trinnov D-Mon 6. I’ve just purchased an Antelope OCXHD as a master clock but, nobody’s told me whether or not to remove the loop sync cables from the 16-I/Os. ???
Everything has to be connected somehow to the master. Loop cables should stay in for the interfaces. Otherwise they wouldn't have any connection to clock. And loop sync is proprietary and better than standard word. Thanks!
Are there and brands or product lines you can point us to, so that we can research products?
TheRangeControl check out any MOTu product!
My audio interface does not have any jacks for clock cables (spdif, adat, etc). I have a basic UMC404HD by Behringer. How would I incorporate a word clock device to my Behringer? I ask this question because I plan to purchase dedicated mic preamps in the future so I have more varieties of preamps. So, in my case, do I need a master clock device? I shall wait for your response. Thanks in advance.
Sadly, I don't believe you can.
@@cinema_sound5003 Thank you for your reply.
Thanks !
i own the antelope synergy core .i want to use adat and spdif together .my question is do i have to connect antelope and the other pres with word colck? or just connect only the spdif with word clock ?
Thanks for the very interesting Video. Does it matter if I synchronise two audio interfaces together over wordclock or ADAT? I'm having a focusrite scarlett 18i20 2nd gen. and I would like to buy another 8 channel interface (as a slave).
@@cinema_sound5003 thank you, apreciate it...
You are the CLOCKING MAN
Would i need one if I am just running a focusrite isa one preamp going to a art pro vla compressor to a focusrite 18i8 audio interface
If you're doing just analog audio, then no. If digital, then yes. Thanks for reaching out!
The $6k clock from Antelope needs to be put in perspective. Its not what I would consider expensive when you consider the following mistake most "producers" have made.
You've spent years trying to reverse engineer all platinum hit recordings released from Warner brothers, and many others, and don't want to waste 1 million dollars building a studio, buying the $250k console, and fill the back wall with $150k in rack gear, only to realize you can't achieve the same sound as Warner. In a realization of your foolish mistake you sell off everything and mix on your laptop with a $6k master clock, knowing this to have been the secret all along. The SOS test was done by someone who doesn't understand this. You really only notice a difference when you are playing back multitracks with 40 plugins, and multiple sub mix effects running.
Sorry but this is completely audiophile nonsense.
First, the price of products today have nothing to do with the quality of the final results.
What you probably earing is experience and good workmanship. Save your money.
Antelope atomic clock and other master clock promising better performance is pure marketing nonsense.
Playing 40 channel multitracks or 2 channel audio will not "show this difference" in jitter, this disproof many times before, to play 40 channels you will need to lower the volume of each, whatever change in sound/side effect will be lowered in the same magnitude.
Master clock are used to sync multiple units. that it. Most of "clock recivers" reclock the clock signal so any "improvement" would be "lost" even if it was true.
If you saying improvement can be heard but not tested this is audiophile nonsense by definition, all parameters of exact audio reproducing are known and this proved many times by null testing.
Ask yourself one question, If this was true and master clock could improve sound, why any of this brands don't publish a clear tests that show exactly that?
So if I have 3 interface two of which I use adapt to expand plus a dangerous ad convert which is my last ad conversion So if I purchase a master clock what unit would be the input into that clock My main interface and the out of that clock to all units. I’m a bit confused as you can tell. I am currently having an issue with distortion in one of my focusrite adapt signals
Cinema Sound so a dedicated master clock would not be better?
Cinema Sound I figured the units clock although a high end unit. Focusrite Red 16 was not handling the multiple adapts too two other units plus the bnc to the ad convert which is , I believe resulting in the Adat not functioning properly on one of the units. Very distorted. Thought perhaps a dedicated master clock for all units might give me better results
antelope have a crystal oven clock can you imaging controling temperature inside the oscilator that's mind blowing
Audiophile marketing nonsense
I have an Apollo interface and I have a friend who have the same but with an external clock and he keep telling me that I need to buy one to see the difference in the plugins response and clarity ... how true is that?? He keep saying that he can’t work with out it...
You don't need one of those interfaces. Unless you're doing SUPER high end audio. Otherwise, your Apollo is just fine.
Got to much audio devices...
🌀hurry game
Only cucx tell corny ebonics jokes.
Ebonics...🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️