Blood Hunt Did Far More Harm Than Good To Marvel Comics
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Marvel Comics 60-issue mega event Blood Hunt came to a close this week with Blood Hunt #5. While there are some great highs like Wolverine: Blood Hunt and a new Sorcerer Supreme. The legacy of Blood Hunt will be far from kind. Not only was Blood Hunt far too large and boring, it formally introduced interior variants with it's Red Band editions. Wes and Jim break down all the highs and lows of Marvel Comics biggie sized event Blood Hunt. Blood Hunt did far more harm than good to Marvel Comics.
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This was to set up Doom for the Doom event where they can pre-plan/establish the upcoming MCU Doom storyline. Comics are now used to pave the way for their movie properties.
But nothing in the comics is ever related to what they do in the MCU?
Wait so now Miles is immortal?? He's a vampire that coincidently doesn't need to drink blood or is affected by daylight? His parents weren't looking for him while he was a vampire?? Unless all these BIG events take place in 1-2 days why is it no one is ever filing reports for the heroes' secret identities that aren't coming home of going to work??
God, I was scared for a minute that this was your pick of the week! My problem with Doom becoming Sorcerer Supreme is that he became Iron Man about 6 years ago. Let me know when Doom becomes Jeff the Land Shark.
The Bloodhunt main comic was pretty decent to me. It wasn't super epic but it was cool. I think that it was *really* created for the Dr Doom/Sorcerer Supreme reveal
100%
I can hear the phone conversation from Kevin Feige just fine "Hey guys, do you have anything planned for Doctor Doom" "Nope?" "Really? Whats your next big event?" "Bloodhunt. Its about Blade and Vampires..." "Can you shove Doctor Doom into it and have a Doom event next?" "Sure...any reason why?" "Can't say right now....."
That is 100% how that ending felt. Toss Blade aside and now focus on DOOM. You know....just like the MCU is doing....... I mean Dooms whole purpose was "Doom Commands....LET THERE BE LIGHT".
1)Why would the freed Blade not want to kick the vampires you know what from here to hell?!
2)You're saying the SORCERER SUPREME, DOCTOR STRANGE, could not handle a spell that DOCTOR DOOM could?! Pull the other one ok.
3)Clea, who had BEEN THE SORCERER SUPREME COULDN'T HELP STRANGE DO THE SPELL DOOM COULD?!? Again, pull the other one.
The ending made no sense and was obviously thrown together to elevate Doom. Why in the hell does Marvel now not understand THATS NOT AN EVENT. Thats what LEADS UP TO AN EVENT. They could have done this in an arc of avengers or doctor strange....you know, like they USED TO. Remember how the incursions started in the regular run of Avengers and New Avengers and LED UP TO THE EVENT?!?! Events are the fall out of something thats been slowly happening....not the fall out of an EVENT!
I think the writers at Marvel right now have massive ADHD "I dont want a slow build up to Doom Being Sorcerer Supreme....I want him to be that NOOOOWWWW!!!!" Its like something a kid would write
"And Blade is like bad...and fights cap...and is mean...and cap is sad and.....Doctor Doom wooshes in and....and now he's like Superman!!" Yep. thats it...right down to the crayon inspired artwork!
Good grief. Blade’s biggest advantage was being a day walker. I’m glad I noped out on this
First off, thank you Wes for introducing me to Weird Comics. Great channel. Blood Hunt is a lot of ideas but none of them fleshed out: All vampires are day walkers. I liked this idea of vampires co-existing with humans the first time in HBO Trü Blood. T’Challa & Miles are still vampires. Book of Mormon has this right? Doom as Sorcerer Supreme was the best reveal. Marc Spector is back. Honestly does anyone care? A decent event shifts the Marvel universe as a whole but…this vampire story minimizes Dracula, Morbius, Blade & the horror characters.
The fact that Stephen Strange can't seem to hold onto the sorcerer supreme mantle, he ISN'T worthy of it.
this was like the lastest temporary events of DC where nothing important happens until the end and leaves new plots initiated
But Blade is dead and Teenage Danger-Haired Lesbian Girl Blade has taken over! This is hugely important.
So Marvel being Marvel, then?
not reallly
Blade didn't die
Sounds like a big massive pile of crap to me
Every time I hear about what happened with the event I’m glad I gave up on the big two.
It was an event that seemed far more interested in moving the different pieces of Jed MacKay's Marvel books around, than actually telling a good story in its own right. At least the Fantastic Four and The Incredible Hulk had some pretty good tie-ins.
I prefer Millar's Ultimates vs vampires - and the main vampire was just some dude in an old Iron Man suit, lol. It wasn't even that good, but it was at least fun. It was also Millar's lampooning of the "new characters taking dead characters' superhero identities" trope that needs to stop - and this was years ago. Little did we know...
wolverine was my favorite tie in also. makes me excited for wolverine revenge and wolverine venom war. both have stellar creative teams
Yeah, I thought it was a decent story.
"Like KISS putting their blood in the comic"! I remember that like it was yesterday!!!😂
Events should have a limited, self contained scope. I appreciate that among all this event or long arcs going nowhere we had stuff like Ryan North's FF with 1-issue stories. Sure, the quality was up and down, but it was refreshing and it has some great numbers in there.
It should have been an epic spectacle that horror fans would be able to look at as a project unlike anything seen since the days of horror comics height, because so many content creators talk about how Marvel comics has so many great IPS for Vampires. And while I'm know it could be done with vampires alone (maybe small features of other monsters) it would have been cool to see the countless other monsters they have. If I was Marvel that would have been my aim.
10 cent names for 1 cent ideas
The three positives I’ll give this event:
*The idea of Black Panther slowly recovering from vampirism on his own because the Heart-Shaped Herb gradually purged the infection/curse from his system
*The reference to Cap-Wolf and the idea of Cap adding some silver to his shield to protect against vampires and werewolves
*The fact that they had vampires with powers to fight the Avengers. I don’t know how well it was done, but at least they realized, “Hey, the vampires taking on the Avengers need to be extra powerful because having them go down to regular vampires would make them look like chumps!”
You look at comics prior to the 2000s and you realize they didn’t feel the need to have event after event. Sure, there were events, but they weren’t constant. They had storylines and multi-part issues without everything being an event, a company-wide crossover, or a tie-in. Shoot, they even had plenty of stand-alone issues that had little or nothing to do with anything. It might reference previous events or set up for the next issue, but you could skip it and not worry about missing anything.
I remember hearing about a splatter film called Mark of the Devil that offered viewers a “stomach distress bag” with each ticket. 🤢
"I did read all of them"
I pity anyone who, like me, decided to suffer through Union Jack's blood hunt mini. THAT was absolute trash with zero relation to the main event and insufferable OOC writing for both Union Jack and the villain.
Really? Not familiar with the character but I thought it was a pretty cool self contained story. Maybe I just liked it bc I’m British. Idk.
I have been used to this insufferable garbage since the Brian Michael Bendis days of Avengers, 20 years ago. Every story Bendis wrote for Avengers lead to some stupid event. Avengers Disassembled led to House of M, which led to Civil War, which led to Secret Invasion, which led to Dark Reign, which led to Young Avengers: Children's Crusade, which led to AvX, which led to AXIS, and so on.
Yes, he started all this shit andthe Avengers book has become a tie-in title in that time.
Rumors are Hickman is doing the Doom event that’s coming in the fall.
I thought Annihilation 2099 (which is about Dracula 2099) was a much more fun vampire story, it was so dumb to release two vampire invasion comics around the same time
As well as running it concurrently with DC doing vampires
I thought the Wolverine mini was decent. Id rather have just read a Wolverine vampire story, and squashed the main story
Nah we gotta stop these vampires 👀😡😤
Absolutely terrible event. Badly thought out, badly written and ended up being pretty typical of every Marvel event in recent years. Would anyone have bought it if not for the 'red band' versions?
The Union Jack:blood hunt mini was actually a cool, self contained story but fuck paying like £200 for 60 issues of fucking marvel comics.
Just the fact that in 2024, Marvel went all in (whatever that means for Marvel nowadays) on a vampire story.... Speaks volumes about the deficit in creative ideas. Boring concepts, and an over reliance on mining past successes till they're literally bled dry... Oh, i finally see what Marvel was trying to tell us. How very meta. (This is sarcasm, btw. I doubt they would be that self aware or cleverly self critical to make vampires a metaphor for what they're doing to the entire franchise. It's very ironic though)
Blade's daughter has such a bad dated 90s/2000s look. Purple hair, grunge Buffy look (I'm Gen X and I can tell you, dark skinned people with purple hair look silly. I have dark skin so I know!) Its like when writers literally adapt a headline for a new story, not realizing it'll look silly within 6 months.
I really enjoyed it. It is weird that all vamps are day walkers and I see the point. There are at least some ramifications beyond the event that will be felt in the overall narrative going forward. It's kinda interesting 🤷♂???
The Vampires will now keep turning all the humans because not even the sun will stop them....think about it. But Sorcerer Suprene Dr. Doom has enormous potential.
@@Wes_From_TC agreed! I really don’t care for taking away Blade’s day walking gimmick, but current marvel only knows how to take what is most unique of a certain character and turn it into something incredibly derivative. Look at what they’ve been doing with Spider-Man! There should only have been one Spider-Man.
I bought all 5 issues, and it was just okay. I loved the art, and the story was serviceable. What I did like about it is that it was only 5 issues, whereas when DC comics had their vampire storyline, They expected you to buy twelve.
I know you mean the main book, but 12 issues is a bit better than 60+ ( i thought both stories sucked overall)
What would marvel do if they couldn’t rip off their own What If? stories from the 80’s?
I’m looking forward to the event where Dr. Doom becomes Spider-Man.
Sounds like another dud, it’s just miss after miss now isn’t it, wish you guys had something decent to read from the big 2.
Hit or miss/I guess they never hit, huh?
@@karaoconnoraliasraidraSeems that way to me, there’s nothing but misses.
I actually like the four issue blood hunters.. now it seems to be an origin story for a new comic series
If making Doom the Sorcerer Supreme was the ultimate point of all this confusing mess, why didn't they just make that the story.
What a waste of paper most of it sounds.
That aside it is a crime Tom Waltz won't be the writer on the main Wolvie title going forward. He has great feelings for the character, understood what worked from Ben Percy's run and ignored what didn't (and wrote Louise better than Percy did).
The stench of Krakoa means I'm unlikely to get the ongoing Wolverine anymore than any other X-book, at least not until I both hear it's good and it repudiates Krakoa..
But if it had been Waltz after reading Bloodhunt I would have been sorely tempted.
From one event to another, one does not get to even end before the next starts! Good thing not picking any events since King in Black. And no FOMO for Red Band books
This week at my LCS they were still trying to sell Blood Hunt 1
In fact they were going to give you it for free 4 weeks ago
Great points guys
22:01 when did scarlet witch turn black?
So Moon Knight has been dead for what, a few months?!
is it any wonder that we stopped caring when Superheroes die?!
I mostly blame the X-Men's Krakoa era for this lack of care in all their characters' death and constant over use of the trope.
@@spinningtornado4543 at least with the whole Krakoa thing, we knew beforehand that any mutant that dies will most likely come back to life (didn't make it great, just it didn't feel like they were trying to trick us)
with other characters it just feels like the writers have given up.
Daredevil goes to hell and "officially" dies, only to show up a week later as a priest.
Ms Marvel makes a "heroic sacrifice" to save Mary Jane, we have a big funeral for her, only then to find out she's a mutant.
it's literally impossible to get invested in stakes anymore where you can pretty much assume any kind of danger is a fake out.
@@KainGerc The writers tricked us plenty of times during Krakoa : They broke the very rules they set in place in regards to resurrection whenever they felt like it and never explained why.
They also retconned many emblematic mutant deaths and resurrections that occured before Krakoa to the point of tearing apart great storylines from the past.
Black Panther Blood Hunt was quite interesting at least for the first few issues. The Avengers tie-in on the Shield Heli-carrier was also interesting but aside from that much of the Blood Hunt stuff could have been condensed.
Marvel should just take a break with events and honestly it seems like image has better events.
QR Codes don't have to be a comic book industry gimmick, they could be an amazing tool that makes comics way better if done right. It can allow content that is added to a comic from its release date, but also for more content to be added as time passes.
I don't follow this event but bring back Moon Knight so early took away the weight of your death And Konshu are back too.Ahh the status quo.He never change. Strange being a idiot in trusting Doom and now he are the Sorcerer Supreme from the MU,setting up another event already. Marvel are out of ideas. Blood Hunt was just another cash grab after all.What a shame.
I owe the team at TC a round for taking the bullet and suffering through this sea of drek from marvel. I saved some money for better things. More importantly, l saved precious time. Going on ten years without buying a comic from 'the house of ideas'. Sad but true.
Didn't anybody learn anything from the flash/reverse flash trial or, the clone saga when it came to storylines that outlived their welcome?......
I like many Jed Mackay comics, his runs of Black Cat, Magic The Gathering, Moon Knight, Dr Strange/Strange. Passed on Blood Hunt. Not interested at all.
well at least it's done!
Mark Millar did this in the ultimates as five issue mini series....
Red band really frigging sucks.. I saw October’s solicitations and looks like there’s another one (blade). I’d probably read this event when it’s collected and even then it’s probably going to be in the bottom of my list.
The next interior variant red band comic is Wolverine Revenge #1.
Glad I stayed strong and only read the Fantastic Four tie-ins
Because of bloodhunt I stopped buying comics that I was already on the fence about. I don’t want tie ins that interrupt everything
After Avengers Forever I stopped buying all event comics. That one just broke me 😞
And that is why I usually read tie-ins to the events like these if they are like.
In fact the only good ones from the blood hunt event we’re midnight sons, wolverine , Union Jack , blood hunters and the hulk , werewolf by night one-shots.
Why would killing Varnae cure Miles? Marvel isn't What We Do In the Shadows. Fully turned vampires are not cured by killing the head vampire.
Awesome work guys
Still a DC vs Vampire rip-off.
I never noticed this before, but Thinking Critical looks a little bit like Ben Affleck
I don't think so..i really enjoyed it
Blood hunt was unfortunately a waste of time , It was just a could of been and focus on blade as a villain with the side kick being hero and blade is out ,they could have used a clone filler with an ancient spirit infused to the clone and vampires walking in daylight( what’s unique about blade now)
I dont care what you do, Miles isnt a good character outside of his original universe. What is wrong with writing when the AUDIENCE DOESNT LIKE IT
Well Doom is going to be the new Sorcerer Supreme. This is going to be the catalyst for Frank to come back.
"Union Jack: The Ripper" Mini was the only good thing that came out of this for me. The rest I either didn't read or was garbage.
So glad this is over. I liked the Wolverine and Fantastic Four issues, but didn't even bother to read the others. And why didn't they do this closer to Halloween??
I jumped off Moon Knight, the last Marvel Series i was following when they killed off Marc. I'm not returning to the MK series.
And i'm pretty sure they cause this a lot with their nonsense.
Is Doom now the white male version of Kamala Khan? Doom is God Emperor( admittedly bad ass and the end of Marvel in my head canon), Doom is Iron Man, Doom is Doctor Strange, Tony Stark is Doom?(MCU).
I think Doom needs a hug, bro is trying too hard. I'm certainly not going to do it, but somebody invulnerable should go try. 😁
Thankfully I know which writers to avoid. There are A LOT of them. I do like Ben Percy though. Red band needs to go!
No good comics this week?
It’s a catch 22. Marvel comics is dumb at business…but people still bought and fell for this BS gimmick. Thus, we are still at square 1 with no change for the better. :(
PS I no longer want to hear that the hologram and silver foiled covers from the ol days were bad. At least that gimmick was fun. Lolol
an aevnt that needed no tie-ins what so ever
Just more D. E. I. Stuff from the Marvel writers and artists.🤢
🤔How was it so "D.E.I."? Because Blade's daughter was in it?
@scinnyc anything with a person of color is automatically labeled D.E.I.
It's so annoying.
@@scinnyc Just wondering do they do any female characters replaced by sons? My introduction into modern Marvel is kind of zero.
@@PrivateCitizen84 Blade was never replaced. No one cares about Blade's daughter. And as far as I know, the only person that ever got replaced by their daughter was Wolverine when X-23 replaced him. But Old Man Logan was around at the same time so she only replaced him by name and costume
@@scinnyc So no sons then and no mothers then?
And they destroyed Black Knight again. No more. I can have a man with sword. Ill never buy or watch marvel again
I spent 5.99 for a QR Code
Great art story wasn't event worthy. Could have taken place in the regular Avengers cmic.
Shops didnt even order it for there walls. Blood hunt was the worst marvel event.please marvel stop written these nonsense events.and tiieing them in with current runs.the 5% of ur readers are leaving .😂
I got bored and stopped reading.
Nobody reads comics these days. My friends read manga.
The only blood hunt tie-in that I only like is the incredible hulk one-shot. Only because it felt like another hulk issue, just underground vampires that make some connection towards the main event.
This is my last Marvel crossover! I only read Bloodstunt 1-5 and it was uneventful and confusing and really pointless! Dr Doom treatment of Stephen Strange like a dumb ass fool has absolutely no tension! Once editorial ain’t doing their job! The main 5 issue should have the center of the story and Pepe Larazz is completely vague with muddy color and the adversaries were dull with absolutely no background with the possibility of them returning and messing up the Marvel comics universe! Who cares?? The blood stains on bagged exclusive comics was a empty marketing stunt, further BS to pitch with lack wit variants and confusion and screw over readers//retailers with lots of empty calories! 60 titles 🚽! Corporate cash grab and I’m done! It’s pointless ! Varnae haa a damn cool origin story from the old B&W Bizarre Adventures series from the 80’s with Swamp Thing artists Stephen Bissete and John Totleben! Novice editorial as usual asleep at their post? This could’ve been a one shot reprint tie in with Blood Stool! 🤡🥃💥🥊🥂🧻🚽