I’m a votaan fan and I’m glad you like them. Just remember unless you’re doing an official tournament, just glue whatever weapons and use the rules that your want, magnetise or bluetack on bigger things that change the model significantly
Thanks for the comment! I really love the content you guys are putting out, your upcoming Votann video will help a lot of people with some awesome tips.
Excellent stuff mate. I liked that. On cleaning up mould lines I'm one of those Wierdo's who enjoys clean up and build. I find it really relaxing and the whole process becomes a little like a Japanese Tea Ceremony. There is a trick that I can pass on, though. That Tamia super thin glue is excellent for removing mould lines on textured areas such as hair, rib cages, etc. Just brush over the mould line with a thin layer of Tamiya and the Worst of the mold line melts away 😀
Thanks for watching as well as commenting Tony, really appreciate it! When I started I didn't enjoy building or painting, I've now come to enjoy painting through videos from people like our friends at The Painting Phase as well as trying new things like slap chop. I tried that for the first time last night and really love it. I haven't found that love for building yet but hoping the more I do it the more I'll enjoy it. Really great tip on mould lines over textured areas, not heard that one before and that would definitely make life easier - there are often parts on guns where the hands are gripping the weapon and it's annoying to get a knife over as it's so bumpy. Sounds like this would clean it right up, I'll give it a go!
Slap chop also works with Metallic silver paints. Just do the black base coat a medium silver instead of Grey and a bright silver instead of white and you get a metallic effect on armor. Works great on space Marines I imagine it would work well on Votann
Really like the thought process you put into building your troops. Makes me wish I had done so myself, heh. As for mould lines, I’m still figuring it out. Like you I feel like I might be taking too much time with them. I’ve found I didn’t quite get rid of them on my Warriors while painting actually. At that point I just accepted the circumstances and try to do better next time 😅
I like to use a little set of hobby files from army painter on mold lines. You may or may not like it, but i enjoy not worrying about a sharp/semi sharp knife in my hand and how must faster I can go. It could have a small chance to mess with detail if you push too hard or are not careful, but might be worth a shot.
I'm a hobbyist with 20years experience and still take roughly the same time as you thanks to obsessing over mold lines. So no, there probably is no magic trick other than lowering your expectations (easier said than done) and/or decide if you want to paint a model to perfection or just use it as a toy and live with moldlines.
Thanks for the comment and this is actually a relief to hear in an odd way, as it means I'm probably setting my expectations a bit high for tabletop standard - but as you say, it's easier said than done to lower expectations. Appreciate the insight.
I bought two Votann army boxes for a tournament and honestly it took me over 20 hours to put them all together and clean all the mold lines (I am very thorough and remove all mold lines, drill out gun barrels and fill noticeable gaps) so don't feel like you are doing it wrong (the time you put in depends on the result you want). When assembling I dry fit all the models with the weapon and equipment load outs I want first and then put them into zip lock bags with the part codes and squad numbers written on the front. Great content by the way! looking forward to your next vid :)
Thanks for the compliment on the content, means a lot! Also a relief, in a roundabout way, to hear it took you a while to pull them together as it does assume me a bit this is just how long it takes - it's almost like if that's how long it takes and that's just what it is, I can let go of feeling like I'm too slow and just relax into the process a bit I guess.
Honestly i didn't even know how to take off those mould lines either. I'll probably use a exacto knife like you or go as far as sanding them out maybe? Idk
I like to use a fine nail file alongside the knife to clean mold lines. I do the rough part with the knife to get it mostly flush, than polish it with the file. The one i have has different grits on it, from medium to extra fine polish. I hope this helps!
It does, thank you! I do a similar thing too, basically use the knife all around for general mould lines and then a file for anything which is a bit rough - usually where I cut the nubs off.
@@TinBearStudios You just gotta. Otherwise, even though nobody else can see it, you just KNOW it's there and it will drive you mad. Build the models you wanna build the way that makes you happy. It's not a race, it's all fun :)
10 hrs isn't too bad, I built a cult patrol box on Saturday and spent all day doing the 32 models and I'd made all of the different model types in the box before too. I just did batches of 5 or 10 then had breaks between them. The only fiddley bit was the Hq in the box, since I already had the female mage and it wasn't posable I decided to cut up its staff to switch it round and changed the knife blade and head with spares from other cult characters. Ive changed a few arms for my tyranids and cult a few times so far, but they look a bit simpler than changing the drawf Weapons around. Found out recently from the codex while looking through it that the acolyte flag guys don't have guns so they had their hands cut off and replaced with knives, while at it cut off my neophyte leaders web pistols to replace with auto pistols to save points. There's pics on my Instagram (same name followed by a random number the I'd pic is a iron maiden trooper) if anyone wants to see
I've just liked those photos on your Instagram, they look fantastic! That's a lot you've got done in a single day, really nice work and very impressive! I also like all the conversions you've done there, I haven't converted anything yet. 10 hours isn't awful with the dwarves, I think I just wanted to be done so I can play with them on the tabletop but they do look great as models, I really like the detail on them.
I mainly got the cult patrol to stop myself from buying the new guard boxset when it comes out, I only want the new artillery and codex 'n cards from it. I'm not to bothered with the new sentinel or troops, I'll get some kasrkin early next year with a plane. Hopefully there isn't too much of a wait for the codex to be sold separately after its out or I'll be buying more tyranid stuff just incase.. lol
It's a pretty good plan to be fair, I've just done a similar thing with the Votann - bought the rest of the units needed to get me to 2k points which is a lot for me to build and paint, so I really shouldn't buy the new Guard set...but I also know I love a bit of hype to buy into!
Well.. this is a topic that simply cant be covered in merely one comment but il try.. first thing. And this is quite important and not somthing id say lightly if i wasent absoloutely sure .. Your attitude to the cleanup process is wrong. This is a time intensive hobby, No amount of tips n tricks or "hacks" will ever change that. You can burn yourself out being TOO obsessive with cleanup. However, Generally good cleanup+ good smooth coat of primer+ neatness makes a MASSIVE difference. It's almost always worth spending time and care on. Nothing is more annoying than seeing a messy nick cut/ mold line when painting. Its meant to be a hobby you can spend a lifetime getting better at and thats a good thing. As for tricks.. i see people in the comments already mentioning using extra thin to melt fine mold lines on hair, That can work, However Generally what i use is the same kind of tools that scale modellers use.. you are building a model and it is in a rough scale after all... But probally the most game changing thing ever if you havent used it before is.. sandpaper, Lots and lots of different types of sandpaper. Of all different kinds of grits. Wet n dry sandpaper to be precise. You can cut it into whatever sized strip you want to sand curved and flat surfaces smooth, You can stick it to wood and metal to make your own sanding sticks, Or just buy ready made sanding sticks. Nail files and buffers work just fine for alot of this.. but id buy hobby branded ones. Next up.. use a variety of tools, A nice set of files is incredibly useful once you get used to them, Good ones wont rip huge gouges out of your minis and will leave a nice dust slurry that can be rinsed or extra thinned away. Get yourself a variety of different blade types meant for hobby craft.. rounded concave and convex blades for curves, Chisel type blades for hard to reach crevices. Theres alot of good cheap options for these available everywhere. Watching people use flat blades on curved surfaces will make you wince after having this epihany lol Get yourself a scribing tool ( i like the tamiya scriber. ) For getting into areas like gaps in power armour or plasma gun coils or.. rescribing areas that have been filled in with putty/goo/other. Even a needle put into a pin vice chuck can work for this. Next up and this is quite a big revelation Spru goo! ( and putty ) Look up how to make this stuff and also putties like milliput. With spru goo you can make gaps in pieces dissapear during assembly.. which speeds up a quality mini prep quite considerably. it also usually makes for a fantastically strong bond that makes your minis a good amount less fragile. There is no quick fix with regard to getting faster at assembly even if you research all the stuff ive just mentioned. ( id reccomend looking at scale modelling/scale aircraft builders to get better. ) Once you do put the time in to researching and practicing though you will get faster and better at assembly This is a really exhaustive topic that almost everyone that comes into modelling from the GW route neglects. And GW leaves it up to the scale modelling community to wrap a comforting blanket around the victims of GWs abuse lies and gaslighting lmao If the gw studio team isnt using most or all of the things i've just listed behind closed doors il eat my hat. If you have other media i can DM you on i can provide a list of tools/equipment and other good guides if youd like.
Yeah it can be pretty expensive in general, I was surprised how much I'd spent getting into it and then purchasing stuff for them this weekend with the new Combat Patrol as well as a few other units…
Nice video man, most newer GW Kits seem to have this issue, of almost assembling a 3d puzzle. It can be really annoying and just overly time consuming. I miss the days of the old Cadians being a set of legs, a torso and 2 arms with a head. The main reason I actually commented though was to bring up the "Professionally painted Champion" My man, if you paid for that you got ripped off. It looks extremely amateur and I feel as hobbyists we should hold the term "Professionally painted" to a lot higher standard. I'd argue its a meme term that people chuck on badly painting Ebay Minis to try and justify charging over the top prices for less than table top standard minis...
Thanks on the video! I agree the builds can be pretty time intensive, I understand that people don't like mono pose models too so I guess I just need to find a way through it! Fair enough with your opinion on the paint scheme, I'm really happy with the end result though and it looks really great in person. The guy that did it (@tompaintsfigs on Instagram) shows the models better on his Instagram as I'm not the best at capturing these things on video.
Phew, pleased it's not just me! Don't get me wrong I did actually enjoy building these as I got into it, I especially liked how much freedom I had with switching heads out as well as the choice of arms and similar things, made it much more fun.
I’m a votaan fan and I’m glad you like them. Just remember unless you’re doing an official tournament, just glue whatever weapons and use the rules that your want, magnetise or bluetack on bigger things that change the model significantly
Awesome Video Andy! Enjoyed listening to your insight, We've got loads of Votann on pre order, can't wait to get started on them!
Thanks for the comment! I really love the content you guys are putting out, your upcoming Votann video will help a lot of people with some awesome tips.
Excellent stuff mate. I liked that. On cleaning up mould lines I'm one of those Wierdo's who enjoys clean up and build. I find it really relaxing and the whole process becomes a little like a Japanese Tea Ceremony. There is a trick that I can pass on, though. That Tamia super thin glue is excellent for removing mould lines on textured areas such as hair, rib cages, etc. Just brush over the mould line with a thin layer of Tamiya and the Worst of the mold line melts away 😀
Thanks for watching as well as commenting Tony, really appreciate it!
When I started I didn't enjoy building or painting, I've now come to enjoy painting through videos from people like our friends at The Painting Phase as well as trying new things like slap chop. I tried that for the first time last night and really love it.
I haven't found that love for building yet but hoping the more I do it the more I'll enjoy it.
Really great tip on mould lines over textured areas, not heard that one before and that would definitely make life easier - there are often parts on guns where the hands are gripping the weapon and it's annoying to get a knife over as it's so bumpy. Sounds like this would clean it right up, I'll give it a go!
The Votann look so cool
I really love the models, they look great!
Looking great, I'd love to paint that chaos knight for you when you get around to it
It's such a cool looking model isn't it!
Slap chop also works with Metallic silver paints. Just do the black base coat a medium silver instead of Grey and a bright silver instead of white and you get a metallic effect on armor. Works great on space Marines I imagine it would work well on Votann
What a great tip! Then using the contrasts on top, with them having translucency, means the metallic shows through?
@Tin Bear Studios exactly! I painted some Khorne Berzerkers this exact way and they came out great
Sounds epic!
Really like the thought process you put into building your troops. Makes me wish I had done so myself, heh.
As for mould lines, I’m still figuring it out. Like you I feel like I might be taking too much time with them. I’ve found I didn’t quite get rid of them on my Warriors while painting actually. At that point I just accepted the circumstances and try to do better next time 😅
I like to use a little set of hobby files from army painter on mold lines. You may or may not like it, but i enjoy not worrying about a sharp/semi sharp knife in my hand and how must faster I can go. It could have a small chance to mess with detail if you push too hard or are not careful, but might be worth a shot.
I’ll check these out as definitely know what you mean! I’ve seen those from Army Painter too.
I'm a hobbyist with 20years experience and still take roughly the same time as you thanks to obsessing over mold lines.
So no, there probably is no magic trick other than lowering your expectations (easier said than done) and/or decide if you want to paint a model to perfection or just use it as a toy and live with moldlines.
Thanks for the comment and this is actually a relief to hear in an odd way, as it means I'm probably setting my expectations a bit high for tabletop standard - but as you say, it's easier said than done to lower expectations.
Appreciate the insight.
I bought two Votann army boxes for a tournament and honestly it took me over 20 hours to put them all together and clean all the mold lines (I am very thorough and remove all mold lines, drill out gun barrels and fill noticeable gaps) so don't feel like you are doing it wrong (the time you put in depends on the result you want). When assembling I dry fit all the models with the weapon and equipment load outs I want first and then put them into zip lock bags with the part codes and squad numbers written on the front. Great content by the way! looking forward to your next vid :)
Thanks for the compliment on the content, means a lot!
Also a relief, in a roundabout way, to hear it took you a while to pull them together as it does assume me a bit this is just how long it takes - it's almost like if that's how long it takes and that's just what it is, I can let go of feeling like I'm too slow and just relax into the process a bit I guess.
Mild lines can be a pain but if you take your time it’s worth the effort.
Completely agree! I think my challenge is I am taking my time and it's taking hours to get models built.
They do look pretty great though.
Nice video. Obsessed with removing mold lines? I feel you 😂
Honestly i didn't even know how to take off those mould lines either. I'll probably use a exacto knife like you or go as far as sanding them out maybe? Idk
I still struggle with this all this time later!
I like to use a fine nail file alongside the knife to clean mold lines. I do the rough part with the knife to get it mostly flush, than polish it with the file. The one i have has different grits on it, from medium to extra fine polish. I hope this helps!
It does, thank you!
I do a similar thing too, basically use the knife all around for general mould lines and then a file for anything which is a bit rough - usually where I cut the nubs off.
Dude I have OCD and I have to get eeeeeeevery mould line. I feel you so much. :)
Phew, it's not just me!
I've kind of accepted it's just going to take me a while to build models now, it is what it is!
@@TinBearStudios You just gotta. Otherwise, even though nobody else can see it, you just KNOW it's there and it will drive you mad. Build the models you wanna build the way that makes you happy. It's not a race, it's all fun :)
I think I'm slowly realising it's not a race, it's only taken me a few months!
Oof, 10 hours. Yeah, building models can be grueling work! My top tip is to 3D print them instead 😁
That's a pretty good tip, especially having seen a sneak peek at your latest video and what's possible!
10 hrs isn't too bad, I built a cult patrol box on Saturday and spent all day doing the 32 models and I'd made all of the different model types in the box before too. I just did batches of 5 or 10 then had breaks between them. The only fiddley bit was the Hq in the box, since I already had the female mage and it wasn't posable I decided to cut up its staff to switch it round and changed the knife blade and head with spares from other cult characters. Ive changed a few arms for my tyranids and cult a few times so far, but they look a bit simpler than changing the drawf Weapons around. Found out recently from the codex while looking through it that the acolyte flag guys don't have guns so they had their hands cut off and replaced with knives, while at it cut off my neophyte leaders web pistols to replace with auto pistols to save points. There's pics on my Instagram (same name followed by a random number the I'd pic is a iron maiden trooper) if anyone wants to see
I've just liked those photos on your Instagram, they look fantastic!
That's a lot you've got done in a single day, really nice work and very impressive! I also like all the conversions you've done there, I haven't converted anything yet.
10 hours isn't awful with the dwarves, I think I just wanted to be done so I can play with them on the tabletop but they do look great as models, I really like the detail on them.
I mainly got the cult patrol to stop myself from buying the new guard boxset when it comes out, I only want the new artillery and codex 'n cards from it. I'm not to bothered with the new sentinel or troops, I'll get some kasrkin early next year with a plane. Hopefully there isn't too much of a wait for the codex to be sold separately after its out or I'll be buying more tyranid stuff just incase.. lol
It's a pretty good plan to be fair, I've just done a similar thing with the Votann - bought the rest of the units needed to get me to 2k points which is a lot for me to build and paint, so I really shouldn't buy the new Guard set...but I also know I love a bit of hype to buy into!
Well.. this is a topic that simply cant be covered in merely one comment but il try.. first thing. And this is quite important and not somthing id say lightly if i wasent absoloutely sure .. Your attitude to the cleanup process is wrong. This is a time intensive hobby, No amount of tips n tricks or "hacks" will ever change that. You can burn yourself out being TOO obsessive with cleanup. However, Generally good cleanup+ good smooth coat of primer+ neatness makes a MASSIVE difference. It's almost always worth spending time and care on. Nothing is more annoying than seeing a messy nick cut/ mold line when painting. Its meant to be a hobby you can spend a lifetime getting better at and thats a good thing.
As for tricks.. i see people in the comments already mentioning using extra thin to melt fine mold lines on hair, That can work, However Generally what i use is the same kind of tools that scale modellers use.. you are building a model and it is in a rough scale after all... But probally the most game changing thing ever if you havent used it before is.. sandpaper, Lots and lots of different types of sandpaper. Of all different kinds of grits. Wet n dry sandpaper to be precise. You can cut it into whatever sized strip you want to sand curved and flat surfaces smooth, You can stick it to wood and metal to make your own sanding sticks, Or just buy ready made sanding sticks. Nail files and buffers work just fine for alot of this.. but id buy hobby branded ones.
Next up.. use a variety of tools, A nice set of files is incredibly useful once you get used to them, Good ones wont rip huge gouges out of your minis and will leave a nice dust slurry that can be rinsed or extra thinned away.
Get yourself a variety of different blade types meant for hobby craft.. rounded concave and convex blades for curves, Chisel type blades for hard to reach crevices. Theres alot of good cheap options for these available everywhere. Watching people use flat blades on curved surfaces will make you wince after having this epihany lol
Get yourself a scribing tool ( i like the tamiya scriber. ) For getting into areas like gaps in power armour or plasma gun coils or.. rescribing areas that have been filled in with putty/goo/other. Even a needle put into a pin vice chuck can work for this.
Next up and this is quite a big revelation
Spru goo! ( and putty ) Look up how to make this stuff and also putties like milliput.
With spru goo you can make gaps in pieces dissapear during assembly.. which speeds up a quality mini prep quite considerably. it also usually makes for a fantastically strong bond that makes your minis a good amount less fragile.
There is no quick fix with regard to getting faster at assembly even if you research all the stuff ive just mentioned. ( id reccomend looking at scale modelling/scale aircraft builders to get better. )
Once you do put the time in to researching and practicing though you will get faster and better at assembly
This is a really exhaustive topic that almost everyone that comes into modelling from the GW route neglects. And GW leaves it up to the scale modelling community to wrap a comforting blanket around the victims of GWs abuse lies and gaslighting lmao
If the gw studio team isnt using most or all of the things i've just listed behind closed doors il eat my hat.
If you have other media i can DM you on i can provide a list of tools/equipment and other good guides if youd like.
i really want to get the Leagues of votann, but idont have enough money
Yeah it can be pretty expensive in general, I was surprised how much I'd spent getting into it and then purchasing stuff for them this weekend with the new Combat Patrol as well as a few other units…
Nice video man, most newer GW Kits seem to have this issue, of almost assembling a 3d puzzle. It can be really annoying and just overly time consuming. I miss the days of the old Cadians being a set of legs, a torso and 2 arms with a head.
The main reason I actually commented though was to bring up the "Professionally painted Champion" My man, if you paid for that you got ripped off. It looks extremely amateur and I feel as hobbyists we should hold the term "Professionally painted" to a lot higher standard. I'd argue its a meme term that people chuck on badly painting Ebay Minis to try and justify charging over the top prices for less than table top standard minis...
Thanks on the video! I agree the builds can be pretty time intensive, I understand that people don't like mono pose models too so I guess I just need to find a way through it!
Fair enough with your opinion on the paint scheme, I'm really happy with the end result though and it looks really great in person. The guy that did it (@tompaintsfigs on Instagram) shows the models better on his Instagram as I'm not the best at capturing these things on video.
Ah fuck.. I spilt agrax earth shade
I have done that twice and not enjoyed the experience either time!
@@TinBearStudios it is so much worse than spilling actual paint because shades get EVERYWHERE
I know right! I luckily only spilt it on my desk matt both times, it was annoying me enough that I replaced it last month and just got a bigger one.
Gotta stop drinking, mate. Hands are shaky af.
I've actually heard drinking alcohol will stop my hand tremors, but I've not tried it yet!
Yah don't feel bad there a pain in the ass. There almost as bad as space marines in my opinion.
Phew, pleased it's not just me!
Don't get me wrong I did actually enjoy building these as I got into it, I especially liked how much freedom I had with switching heads out as well as the choice of arms and similar things, made it much more fun.