I'm on the same boat... Puma's MG outsole is better. However, if these fit you better and you play on nice AG fields, the Phantom might just be better for you. Personally, the Future fit me better than the Phantom so it's not really a choice for me. Straight up Future MGs for me all day long.
@@ridingwithsam Just finished playing the winter season, all on AG. 7 months of practices and games on the same pair, no separation whatsoever. Separation is different for different players. Striking and running habits can have different outcomes on different pairs for people.
Got mine this week and tired it for a training session. I have a wide foot, and they are the most comfortable out of the box compared of any other boot I have worn. And the grip knit is amazing. Didn't expect it to be that good.
I was gonna order some Luna 2 elites but I’m not sure what size to get. I wear 10.5 in my normal everyday sneaker but I tried size 11 for the superfly 9’s and they fit way better than in 10.5. What size should I get for the lunas? I have narrow feet
Hey man, thanks heaps for these videos. I play in northern Australia, always on real grass and occasionally in wet/muddy conditions. Sounds like the AG plate is the go for me. Thanks again, your videos are a huge asset 🤙🏼
No worries mate! Aye that's awesome! 🇦🇺 Definitely a class pickup - might just get another pair of SG for when it gets really muddy, but outside that I'd go AG for sure
I gave this a shot with the AG plate instead of FG based on your recommendation! So far so good, except one brutal blister in my middle toe 😢. hoping they break in pretty quickly as the gripnit is so awesome!
Love to hear that mate, bummed about the blister though! I've got calluses everywhere on my feet so if you wait long enough you'll be able to get into anything 😂
Can you comment on the durability? I had the last year's model with AG soleplate. The soleplate cracked on both feet, right under the ball of the foot. These seem to have the same soleplate which scares me away a little...
@@BeastRo so far so good after one month at 2x training sessions + 1 game a week. Only complaint is I got one random blister and it bled through and stained the boot. Boots are very comfy now tho.
thoughts on using these on turf AKA really short artifical grass. I currentl have the Phantom GX Elite and I have to say I think my knee isn't liking the long FG studs. I'm 24 btw so i don't want to be that guy "I was good until that one injury" lol .
I have a pretty wide feet and I was really concerned about it. I bought the Gxs around two months ago and they are amazing for wide feet. Since the start of my experience with them they have shaped pretty well around my feet. My only complaint for this boot is the stud pattern which seems to get better with the AG model. Overall it's perfect for wide feet.
I have very wide feet. Currently I am wearing the wide size in the Furon V7 and I’m getting blisters on the mid foot from my feet overhanging out of the boot. Do you have any recommendations? Thanks for the video!
Love your channel, appreciate the great videos. Can you say if the traction on the AG’s is decent on taller grass? I play about 50/50 on artificial and grass pitches but have never used AGs before. Some of the grass pitches I play on are a bit tall.
I have wide feet and watched a few videos saying Nike have a wide shoe finally since the days of the total 90s. Well luckily I went to a storefront that actually had the elite and pro version. Let me tell you NOT made for wide feet. I even tried a size up and couldn’t get my foot in, talking about phantom gx 2. So no clue how anyone says for wide feet and I don’t think my feet are that wide. Tell me what I’m missing that it can be worn by wide feet? Tiempos are better but still tight in toebox
Bummer! Sorry to hear that mate. In the same size the GX2 is objectively wider than the Tiempo, so maybe the shape of the Gx2 just isn't suited for your feet 🤝
But why you reccomend AG more than FG? FG is supposed to have better tech for good pitches. I train in FIFA 2 star AG pitch and feel almost like high level FG pitch. But most teams in my tournament play in FG pitches but they aint really good pitches. I bought the FG model was it the correct decision?
brooooo i just ordered a pair of luna 2's.. custom made on the nike app. i cried after realizing they didnt come with a shoebag?!?! hahaha i can always buy a separate (even better one) but still!!! hahahaha cmon man... they should give a bag at least for that price tag right??? hmmm..
I have tried these and they are abslolutly not for me , too stif , compression IS high level even more than the superfly in same size. I don't know why you still saying it IS made for wide feet without talking MORE about the toebox of any shoes you review it IS very very important , this model just Squeez my last 3 toes it IS not tolerable
how flexible is that ag soleplate on those compared to mizuno morelia 2 mij ? also, i have tried on mizuno morelia 2 mij but the soleplate is a bit too stiff for me, will it get more flexible over time?
Hey mate loving your videos. I have the NB Furon V7+ FG and they are great but the ground is rock hard here in NZ at the moment. Would you recommend the GX2's in AG for hard ground? COYG!
Would these be worth over the fg version if i found the fg ones on sale for 212€? It feels like a significant price difference but im not sure how they would hold up on fg pitches
But what do you majority play on grass or turf because those are two major differences I feel like I should have both pair because I played both on grass and turf so
Would you recommend the GX2 AG over the Tiempo Legend 10 or the Mercurial Vapor 15 ?I play twice a week on AG and each Saturday on natural grass.Thx in advance.
Hey Noah, big fan of the channel. I play on both FG and SG, FG probably 70%+ of the time. Do you think the AG plate will hold up fine on Soft Ground pitches?
Noah can we still expect a video of you outing laces into the adidas x Speedportal +? I recently just caught 2 pair of them for $90 and was wondering if I should put laces in them.
@@NoahCavanaugh Do you think the cleats will hold up if I put laces in them? I'm a little worried about the upper ripping where the lace holes are poked.
Noah, thank you for the great review! I heard about issues with the Vapor 15 AG soleplate, do you notice any similar issues with Phantom AG soleplate? If I fit perfectly both in Mercs and Phantoms, which one would you recommend for AG pitches?
Excuse me sir, there are in fact people who like the Cyclone360 plate aka me. I think it is a bit more responsive than the AG model. BUT I will concede, that most people will Probly enjoy the AG plate more
Hey, I’m looking to switch from the Tiempo Legend 10s to the GX2 AG. I currently wear a size 9 for all Nike boots. My feet are slightly on the narrower side. Would anyone kindly care to tell me if I’m better off going half a size down on these or should I stick true to size?
Where do you buy your boots at I always have a tough volume finding them in my size ir thr ones that I'm looking for. (I wear a size 13.5 US in adidas)
Are there any boots similar to the phantom gx out there from Adidas? Not willing to buy gx2 as my feet are too narrow and there is too much spare material. Thanks
Your position has absolutely NOTHING to do with the boots you wear. If you fit in both boots, pick which one you like the look of better! If you only fit in one or the other, go with that one! If you don't fit in either, find something else that actually fits you
Hey Noah, my foot size is in between a size 9 and a 9.5 US and my feet are on the narrower side. Do you think I should go with a size 9? especially due to the extra space in these in the toe area.
I know you mentioned you would recommend true to size Noah, but I tried on half a size down in the Nike store and they seemed to fit perfect for me, this may not be the case when my foot expands after playing but just wanted to hear if you thought going down half a size could be feasable ?
Hey Noah, can you make a video on the feet exercises you mentioned near the end of the video? Also, any idea why Nike have only made the Luna 2 and not the GX2 available for custom on Nike by you? Cheers
Hey Noah, weird question, but, bought these, played in them. The left boot feels perfect, the right one however has heel slippage, almost as if they are 2 different sizes. Had the same problem with other boots. Ever experienced something similar, any tips?
I'd venture a guess that your right foot is slightly smaller than your left 😅 Have you ever been properly measured? I doubt it has anything to do with the boots!
I see. Nope, i mean it looks like length and size wise they are the same. I guess the heel might be smaller on the right or something as im quite flat footed, so maybe the right one is more or less flat footed etc which would affect the lockdown. Thanks anyways
Nah that's a great comparison bro, not sure to be honest. I'd probably still pick the GX cause I love the gripknit but the Furon is a close second for sure
Hi, if you go with the Ag-variant on Furon, know that it adds about 45 grams of weight if you compare it to the fg-variant. I have 2 pairs of furon with fg but they get butchered on ag-pitches Gx2 ag on the other hand actually shaves about 5 grams, when you go with the ag-variant. (190-195 grams)
Neither. 1) Your position has nothing to do with the boots you wear. 2) Neither boot is best in it's category and not even close to the top. 3) Find boots that FIT you the best.
Got the blackout pair in AG and absolutely loving them! ~7ish hours in them and I haven't seen any durability issues - knock on wood it stays that way
That's class mate! 😎
I want to buy an ag pair, but I think puma mg outsole is better. What do u think?
I'm on the same boat... Puma's MG outsole is better. However, if these fit you better and you play on nice AG fields, the Phantom might just be better for you.
Personally, the Future fit me better than the Phantom so it's not really a choice for me. Straight up Future MGs for me all day long.
The Nike AG outsole is better than the Puma MG, but the Puma MG will probably be better than the Cyclone360 on AG surfaces.
The puma sole plate will separate real quick. Trust me.
@@ridingwithsam Just finished playing the winter season, all on AG. 7 months of practices and games on the same pair, no separation whatsoever.
Separation is different for different players. Striking and running habits can have different outcomes on different pairs for people.
Witch boot is better for a winger? Mercurial vaper 15 or the phantoms (ag)
The only thing that matters is what FITS you the best mate, so whichever ones out of those two! Both great boot models.
@@NoahCavanaugh thank you
Was there anything wrong with the first gen gx fg soul plate?
These are the same as the 1st gen AG plate 😎
Got these in black white and gold . Absolutely perfect for AG and finally a pair of boots that fit mg wide feet 👏👏🙋♂️
Class mate! Love to hear that
Late to this but playing on AG is roughhh it turned to black black and gold lol
Got mine this week and tired it for a training session. I have a wide foot, and they are the most comfortable out of the box compared of any other boot I have worn. And the grip knit is amazing. Didn't expect it to be that good.
Love that mate! They're class aye 😎
I was gonna order some Luna 2 elites but I’m not sure what size to get. I wear 10.5 in my normal everyday sneaker but I tried size 11 for the superfly 9’s and they fit way better than in 10.5. What size should I get for the lunas? I have narrow feet
Download my free size guide mate! www.noahcavanaugh.com/product-page/football-boot-sizing-guide
@NoahCavanaugh is it true that the AG version is wider & more square at the toebox? SR4U said so in his review, just wanted to confirm.
Mmm I don’t think so, they’re very similar in shape!
Hey man, thanks heaps for these videos. I play in northern Australia, always on real grass and occasionally in wet/muddy conditions. Sounds like the AG plate is the go for me. Thanks again, your videos are a huge asset 🤙🏼
No worries mate! Aye that's awesome! 🇦🇺 Definitely a class pickup - might just get another pair of SG for when it gets really muddy, but outside that I'd go AG for sure
This silhouette is so cool in white with the all grounds sole
I agree!
I gave this a shot with the AG plate instead of FG based on your recommendation! So far so good, except one brutal blister in my middle toe 😢. hoping they break in pretty quickly as the gripnit is so awesome!
Love to hear that mate, bummed about the blister though! I've got calluses everywhere on my feet so if you wait long enough you'll be able to get into anything 😂
Can you comment on the durability? I had the last year's model with AG soleplate. The soleplate cracked on both feet, right under the ball of the foot. These seem to have the same soleplate which scares me away a little...
@@BeastRo so far so good after one month at 2x training sessions + 1 game a week. Only complaint is I got one random blister and it bled through and stained the boot. Boots are very comfy now tho.
Do these go okay on FG?
Just saw you said FG is good
thoughts on using these on turf AKA really short artifical grass. I currentl have the Phantom GX Elite and I have to say I think my knee isn't liking the long FG studs. I'm 24 btw so i don't want to be that guy "I was good until that one injury" lol .
Totally fine mate! The AG is built for that
Can u wear the phantom 2s with narrow-normal feet type? Thanks mate, great video
Yes, I reckon!
I have a pretty wide feet and I was really concerned about it. I bought the Gxs around two months ago and they are amazing for wide feet. Since the start of my experience with them they have shaped pretty well around my feet. My only complaint for this boot is the stud pattern which seems to get better with the AG model. Overall it's perfect for wide feet.
That's amazing mate! Glad to hear it.
Gun to your head what would you pick for AG?
The Nike Tiempo legend 10 elite
Nike phantom gx2 elite
Predator elite AG
What would you pick?
GX2 elite no question
I have very wide feet. Currently I am wearing the wide size in the Furon V7 and I’m getting blisters on the mid foot from my feet overhanging out of the boot. Do you have any recommendations? Thanks for the video!
These GX2!
@@NoahCavanaughThank you man I will try them out! 🙏
Love your channel, appreciate the great videos. Can you say if the traction on the AG’s is decent on taller grass? I play about 50/50 on artificial and grass pitches but have never used AGs before. Some of the grass pitches I play on are a bit tall.
It is mate, I wore my AG models a bunch
I have wide feet and watched a few videos saying Nike have a wide shoe finally since the days of the total 90s. Well luckily I went to a storefront that actually had the elite and pro version. Let me tell you NOT made for wide feet. I even tried a size up and couldn’t get my foot in, talking about phantom gx 2. So no clue how anyone says for wide feet and I don’t think my feet are that wide. Tell me what I’m missing that it can be worn by wide feet? Tiempos are better but still tight in toebox
Bummer! Sorry to hear that mate. In the same size the GX2 is objectively wider than the Tiempo, so maybe the shape of the Gx2 just isn't suited for your feet 🤝
But why you reccomend AG more than FG? FG is supposed to have better tech for good pitches. I train in FIFA 2 star AG pitch and feel almost like high level FG pitch. But most teams in my tournament play in FG pitches but they aint really good pitches. I bought the FG model was it the correct decision?
I like the AG plate better mate, that's why I recommended it. I've also played EXTENSIVELY with both. the AG is better all around for AG pitches.
Finally picking mine up soon!
Love to hear that! Can't wait to hear your thoughts!
@@NoahCavanaugh Thanks!
brooooo i just ordered a pair of luna 2's.. custom made on the nike app. i cried after realizing they didnt come with a shoebag?!?! hahaha i can always buy a separate (even better one) but still!!! hahahaha cmon man... they should give a bag at least for that price tag right??? hmmm..
Love that mate! They do come with a string bag, it just isn’t custom colors 🤝
I have tried these and they are abslolutly not for me , too stif , compression IS high level even more than the superfly in same size. I don't know why you still saying it IS made for wide feet without talking MORE about the toebox of any shoes you review it IS very very important , this model just Squeez my last 3 toes it IS not tolerable
Wow! Seems like you have a lot to say about these. Maybe another boot is better for you 😎
how flexible is that ag soleplate on those compared to mizuno morelia 2 mij ?
also, i have tried on mizuno morelia 2 mij but the soleplate is a bit too stiff for me, will it get more flexible over time?
mmm it's about the same, maybe a bit less stiff than the Mizunos
Hey mate loving your videos. I have the NB Furon V7+ FG and they are great but the ground is rock hard here in NZ at the moment. Would you recommend the GX2's in AG for hard ground? COYG!
Definitely mate 🤝
@@NoahCavanaugh Cheers!
Would these be worth over the fg version if i found the fg ones on sale for 212€? It feels like a significant price difference but im not sure how they would hold up on fg pitches
These are AWESOME. Definitely my prefered model over the FG model 🤝
Gx2 ag pro vs morelia2 japan what would you recommend?
Whichever fits your foot the best! 🤝
is the mds 007 also similar for wide feet,what is the feedback from people who use it guys,please tell
Not at all mate, I wouldn't recommend any vapor or superfly for wider feet
But what do you majority play on grass or turf because those are two major differences I feel like I should have both pair because I played both on grass and turf so
I have both because I play on both!
So you recommend the AG for Artificial grass but real grass aswell? Because I have to play on both
Yep! Especially these. Or go with a model that has conical studs
I’m a size 7.5 in mercurials should I stick to this size for the phantoms?
Yes, same size
Does the ag model taper a lot less in the toe box? I have the fg and I don’t like the way it squish’s my big toe in.
Not really, no! They're the same upper and shape
Are these wider or narrower than the Tiempo 10’s?
wider by quite a bit
Managed to grab the Luna, in this colourway. They are definitely staying in my rotation.
Class mate! They're awesome aye
Phillip Senderos does UA-cam now?! Cool
😂
Would you recommend the GX2 AG over the Tiempo Legend 10 or the Mercurial Vapor 15 ?I play twice a week on AG and each Saturday on natural grass.Thx in advance.
For my feet, yes! 👍🏼 That all depends what you prefer and what actually fits your feet the best! This AG plate will be just fine for FG too
I have used the mercurials for a few years and i dont have the widest feet. I like the lockdown in the mercs so will these be too wide and loose?
Probably mate! Unless you went down 1/2 size
whats your favorite cleats is it the mizunos??
I have a lot of different ones I enjoy
Do the Luna 2 fit same, so are Luna 2s good with wide feet?
Yep! They're the same boot
Can I have link for purchase?
Check the description!
Would you prefer these or the new tekelas from new balance?
That's a tough one! Probably these cause I love the grip aspect
If I were to shop for the ag instead of Fg where would I find them? I looked on the Nike website and they only have Fg
I reckon you can find them on other websites - ProDirect, Unisport, etc
@@NoahCavanaugh thank you so much!
are these good on 3g pitches
Yes
Hey Noah, big fan of the channel. I play on both FG and SG, FG probably 70%+ of the time. Do you think the AG plate will hold up fine on Soft Ground pitches?
SG is different from FG - I'd go for the AG and then get an actual SG pair that will do the rainy/muddy days
doesnt FG usually perform better on softer pitches than an AG would though? I can only afford the one pair at the moment@@NoahCavanaugh
Better than GX 1? I love my gx 1
Depends on your foot shape mate - they're a tad wider than the GX1 so they fit better out of the box for me
hi Noah, i have the mercurial Fg now but i need some Ag, which one do you recomend to me?
If you fit in the Merc, go for the AG version of that!
How do you clean that "sock" shoe tho haha
I don't 😂
And its real wide, for rice farmers from thailand.
Even wider than the 442 V2 Pro Wide version?
No
Not really, no - the 442 wide fit definitely still takes the crown on that
Can I use the on FG ?
Yes
Noah can we still expect a video of you outing laces into the adidas x Speedportal +? I recently just caught 2 pair of them for $90 and was wondering if I should put laces in them.
Probably not mate, I don't have the boots anymore! I put laces in mine and it worked just fine 😎
@@NoahCavanaugh Do you think the cleats will hold up if I put laces in them? I'm a little worried about the upper ripping where the lace holes are poked.
waiting for gx1 v gx2
Yeah wow, is there a kinder way you could ask me to produce an entire video? 😂
Should I get gx 2 or predator 24 ft
Depends what FITS you best! 🤝
Thanks
Except where the hell do I buy AG models?
Nike app or website
I'd honestly just ID a pair, then you'll get all the colors you want too
They dont exist in my area 😅
Damn!
@NoahCavanaugh been speaking to au cleats though! Australia is rough as for size 12-13 US football boots 😞
Noah, thank you for the great review!
I heard about issues with the Vapor 15 AG soleplate, do you notice any similar issues with Phantom AG soleplate?
If I fit perfectly both in Mercs and Phantoms, which one would you recommend for AG pitches?
Excuse me sir, there are in fact people who like the Cyclone360 plate aka me. I think it is a bit more responsive than the AG model. BUT I will concede, that most people will Probly enjoy the AG plate more
😂 You can enjoy whichever one you'd like mate, I've got no judgment of that at all
Hey, I’m looking to switch from the Tiempo Legend 10s to the GX2 AG. I currently wear a size 9 for all Nike boots. My feet are slightly on the narrower side. Would anyone kindly care to tell me if I’m better off going half a size down on these or should I stick true to size?
9 mate
@@NoahCavanaugh thank you Noah 🙏🏽
Where do you buy your boots at I always have a tough volume finding them in my size ir thr ones that I'm looking for. (I wear a size 13.5 US in adidas)
All over mate
Are there any boots similar to the phantom gx out there from Adidas? Not willing to buy gx2 as my feet are too narrow and there is too much spare material. Thanks
No, I'd go for the furon instead
Hey Noah , do you think the Phantom GX 2 Elite AG is better for strikers than Mizuno Alpha Japan AG ?
Your position has absolutely NOTHING to do with the boots you wear. If you fit in both boots, pick which one you like the look of better! If you only fit in one or the other, go with that one! If you don't fit in either, find something else that actually fits you
Hey Noah, my foot size is in between a size 9 and a 9.5 US and my feet are on the narrower side. Do you think I should go with a size 9? especially due to the extra space in these in the toe area.
I'd go with a 9 for sure brother 🤝
I know you mentioned you would recommend true to size Noah, but I tried on half a size down in the Nike store and they seemed to fit perfect for me, this may not be the case when my foot expands after playing but just wanted to hear if you thought going down half a size could be feasable ?
Okay, great! If they fit 1/2 size down then there's no harm in going for it! They'll stretch a little bit as well so you'll probably be fine
Hey Noah, is there a big difference in studs length between fg and ag? Thank you
Yes, the studs on the FG are about 2x longer
Is there a big difference between wefoot normal grip socks and the thin version
Just how thick they are!
How would these feel for narrow type of foot ? Thanks
Probably just fine! I'd try on both true to size and a 1/2 size down just to see which fits better though
can you do a review on the puma ultra pro hg ag? its a like the puma ultra ultimate but it has a tongue, they never released in the us, only in japan.
I can try mate, although I don't know if you'll like what I have to say about the Ultra 😂
Which one do you prefer the mad ready pack phantoms or the vortex one?
Vortex 100% - the Mad ready is dope but I don't really like the paint job on the GX.
How do you put foam pad on your heel of your soccer cleats??? Pleaseee
I don't, so couldn't tell you!
Hey Noah, can you make a video on the feet exercises you mentioned near the end of the video?
Also, any idea why Nike have only made the Luna 2 and not the GX2 available for custom on Nike by you? Cheers
I can do my best mate, yeah!
I got a pair of Luna 2 ID already, they're out!
u shouldve gona for white & black with gold or the fully blackout colour
I prefer these!
Hey Noah, weird question, but, bought these, played in them. The left boot feels perfect, the right one however has heel slippage, almost as if they are 2 different sizes. Had the same problem with other boots. Ever experienced something similar, any tips?
I'd venture a guess that your right foot is slightly smaller than your left 😅 Have you ever been properly measured? I doubt it has anything to do with the boots!
I see. Nope, i mean it looks like length and size wise they are the same. I guess the heel might be smaller on the right or something as im quite flat footed, so maybe the right one is more or less flat footed etc which would affect the lockdown. Thanks anyways
Are there any issues with wearing AG plate on natural grass? Less traction and grip or do these work relatively well like a Fg boot?
None at all
@@NoahCavanaugh thanks wah tossing up which ones to get, gx2 AG or predator elites :)
Noah…appreciate the videos. Furon v7+ or these? I know they’re different “categories”. I’m looking at AG plate on both.
Nah that's a great comparison bro, not sure to be honest. I'd probably still pick the GX cause I love the gripknit but the Furon is a close second for sure
Hi, if you go with the Ag-variant on Furon, know that it adds about 45 grams of weight if you compare it to the fg-variant. I have 2 pairs of furon with fg but they get butchered on ag-pitches
Gx2 ag on the other hand actually shaves about 5 grams, when you go with the ag-variant. (190-195 grams)
Put out the playtest for the puma future 7s !
Already on the way sheesh 🙄
@@NoahCavanaugh love that ❤️
Hey puma future or ultra for winger?
Neither. 1) Your position has nothing to do with the boots you wear. 2) Neither boot is best in it's category and not even close to the top. 3) Find boots that FIT you the best.