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I have a 2017 Kia optima that is a EF I think which means energy efficient. It's not a sports car but I like it I'm sure the hell hope I don't start having any problems I'm at 20,000 miles and so far it drives like a dream I bought it certified with 12,000 miles and I have the warranty that comes with it and I bought an additional warranty. I'll make sure and get every single thing in writing in the future if something goes wrong
HEY SCOTTY!!! I have an 02 BMW(bigMoneyWaster) 330xi. It blows out white smokes here n there...runs like crap. Neighbor said d head gasket blown but I changed coolant n no oil was mixed in it...the oil didn’t have any coolant in it....should I just sell it? I spent 2,200 on it, it lasted me 2minths n has been sitting for 6months....I’m poor n wanted a nice car I don’t kno wat to do
@@ezriderspewstruth8867 it may not be a blown head gasket it could be piston rings does it smoke all the time? Or just on startup? Possibly valve seals of the smoke goes away after warm up
Scotty just check the pcv value or change with brand new one and check it stops burning oil. Because what i was experience before they had issue with PCV valve going bad even if it done only 1000 miles. And I'm not in the US but dealership in here are more useful and friendly with customers they even list the all common issues and they fix those free even when you out of the 7year warranty. It doesn't matter you needs an engine for company fault they do it gor you for free.
The worst vehicle I ever owned was a Jeep. After 100,000 km it started falling apart. Wife has a Kia Sportage with well over 200,000 km and still going strong.
My Ceed estate has the same amount of oil from oil change to oil change, my only aggravation is the road noise that gets amplified when the surface textures ar less smooth and also when the fuel tank gets below half full.
On my 2012 Kia Soul I travelled over 330,000km on it and had just about zero problem. The only problem I can remember was the alternator failing at around 280km which was only natural considering the mileage. It was the most problem-free car I have ever had driven. There's reason Kia is doing so great all over Europe.
I plan on getting a 2020 Kia Rio or similar years, thoughts about the car? I'm typically a Honda guy so this is all new territory for me. From front to back I have little idea on this manufacturer. Thanks.
I have owned 3 kia's . First was an optima I had for over ten years with zero problems. Then I bought my kid a kia Soul it had 80k and runs perfectly and my wife has a 2020 kia sportage which has 20k on it so far with zero issues... So I don't know what this guy has going on but they all had been good cars for me...
I own a grand caravan 1998 with 253k miles on it, my transmission still works, everyone else i know that had one went through many transmission related problems, also know several people with kia/Hyundai cara, all with major engine problems and also have one cousin with absolutely no problema at all in his Hyundai
Hyundai and Kia identical with regard to engines, I believe. Sister companies, they both use the same stuff. (And their steel. Frame is bassically a roll cage!)@@TrollingSince1991
When people buy a used car, they are taking a gamble with a car that may not have been properly maintained/maintenance by the previous owner. I own a Kia soul 2013 with 80,000 miles no problems..
I'm the 2nd owner of a 2011 (1st gen.) Kia Soul. The instrument cluster failed quickly, but fortunately there was still a short time frame of warranty left, so that repair was covered. I've now driven this Soul over 100,000 miles with reasonable normal maintenance. It still runs and drives super good, and still burns no oil. The only constant issues throughout this time is the radio won't power up about a quarter of the time, and maybe 1% of the time, the heat/AC fan won't work. Those issues have been consistent for years and have not gotten worse over time.
My wife has a 2015 Kia Sorento, fought with Kia about burning oil, after going through there testing for months, they finally replaced the motor. They STINK…
@Michael M lucky you! I have a 2013 Hyundai Sta Fe and have been fighting regarding excessive oil consumption from Hyundai Canada but no luck because it's not under the recall items and when I notice it I was late it was beyond warranty. The engine light does not lit even if I have less than 1cm of oil from the tip of the dipstick. I had 255k km right now and I have to tap a gallon of oil every 10,000km.
I had same problem like you burning oil in my kia sorento after I went 10 times or more in dealer and kia give me the worst customer service no help at all I just trade in get rid off big problem..they don t care at all about customers
The crazy thing about cars; regardless of the make, sometimes you get a good one, sometimes you get a bad one. I’ve got a 2.0L 2010 Kia Soul w/ just under 300K miles. It doesn’t burn a drop of oil. The only thing I’ve had to replace is tires, headlight bulbs, 1 tag light bulb, a battery, and the AC belt. It’s not a sexy car, but it’s never left me stranded. If I had to complain about anything, it would be that if I leave the headlight selector in the automatic position, when you turn the car off the tail lights will stay on if I leave the key in the ignition and kill the battery.
In Germany (and I assume elsewhere in Europe) KIA is doing very well and has increased its image greatly over the last couple of years. The reliability seems to be pretty good too given that they give a 7 year warranty on their cars.
They are doing well since they do they cheapest car out there that people can buy brand new, but they usually break down much easier comparing to other brands.
Having had two family members that had Kia's which both had serious engine and steering problems, in both cases Kia fought them tooth and nail to deny warranty coverage to actually repair the defective designs. Even if a car company offers a 100 year warranty but they refuse to honor the warranty or even acknowledge there is any problem, or when they do honor the warranty but the part they replace still has the same defect as the original part, then the whole "much better warranty" part of the equation gets tossed right out the window. Kia is the IKEA of the automotive world. They along with Hyundai focus mainly on styling, and flashy gadgetry but that comes at a sacrifice which is attention to reliability and/or foolproof design.
@@JA-rn5qv it's weird how one company can behave one way in one country and the total opposite in another country. Here in Australia Kia, Hyundai and Subaru are known to have the pinnacle of customer service at most dealerships. I have heard a couple horror stories but once head office got involved the problems were solved quickly and dealers even had to compensate and apologise to customers
I have a 2019 Kia Soul and use full synthetic oil and do oil changes every 5000 miles. I Haven’t had any issues with it. Close to hitting 50k miles on it now. It’s been one of the best cars I’ve owned.
My 2015 optima is over 150k miles now but needed a second engine for a known recall issue with engines catching on fire. I want to say it happened somewhere between 50 and 70k when my og engine made a pop sound n oil leaked everywhere. Dealer replaced for free but nobody can tell me where my new engine came from n I get free oil changes for the life of the car, it was every 5k but now every 3k n they couldn't explain why that was either.
At this point ngl i don't even worry about the engine. I know ppl are cheap but theyd have to assume someone would lawyer up if it was the same issue again I've had the car 7 years n drove it hella hard but stay on top of basic maintenance. ima drive if til the wheels fall off anyway. I don't think my Vin ever changed since I bought it so the engine prolly has a diff Vin physically stamped on it but it's prolly under the cover. The car overall has served me well, I don't think I'd buy kia again, but only cuz I've had time to save so I have more options than in 2015
I have a 2011 Soul that has over 200K and still runs like a top. Also, Scotty, the 2.0 has a timing belt. For what it's worth, I've had no major problems with my Kia Soul.
I've manged to track down a good condition 2011 soul and I'm picking it up tomorrow, and I'm extremely lucky to have found it. Especially in this market.
As far as I know, engines nowadays are made less sealed to have less friction, thus have better gas mileage. It's even written in the owner manual. They are squeezing every mile at the cost of reliability. Bad choice if you ask me.
Completely different time we live in now compared to 20 years ago really, 20 years ago nobody really cared or paid attention as much to gas mileage. How fast the market has changed from large boat vehicles like the Lincoln Town Car to economy vehicles with lots of tech. EV's are right around the corner now which is insane.
I sacrificed 100k miles from the durability of the engine guys. I had to squeeze out 2 extra mpg guys. Besides, they'll come back and buy a new model in 5 years.
Haha....I know someone who had the 6 SPD soul. It had a lifter noise by 90k , and by like 110k it needed a motor...and yes, she maintained it. She loved it untill she had to get rid of it bc she couldn't put a motor in it when it needed it
I'm on my fourth KIA. I started with a 2005 Optima LX that I picked up used. At 185k miles it was have oil pressure issues. I traded it in for a base model 2013 Rio. The Rio was nice but because it was a back killer getting in and out. Next was a 2016 Soul +. No more back problems. I liked the Soul so much that I traded it in for a 2021 Soul EX. The third generation Soul is by far the best yet. At 27k miles it is running flawlessly. No oil burning. I've owned many cars over the years and KIA has been the most reliable for me.
@Jonathan Sandoval It's called upgrading to a better vehicle because you are able to afford a newer vehicle. Switching vehicles within 20 years doesn't mean the cars you're replacing are bad.
I've owned several Japanese cars over the last 40 years, most of them were Hondas. None of them required any oil top ups between services. Why would they? Oil related issues with Kia engines is a global issue.
I agree with you. My wife's 06 Accord with 170,000 miles and 4-5,000 mile oil changes does not use any oil. Funny, I got scared with her car with so many miles so I bought a new Toyota RAV4 hybrid (when you could still get one a couple of years ago) but it sits in the driveway and I drive it once a week to keep it up. I can't pry the Accord away from her and I know why. My solution is to give it to one of my granddaughters when she gets a license. That will work, grandmas do anything for the grandchildren.
@@MikeJones-pp7gu First of all, how is Scotty washed up? He knows more about cars in his little pinky than you will know in your entire life.. And this is by far not the first time that he’s pointed out the absurd problems that Kia’s and Hyundai’s have.. They will never be the quality and long term reliability that Toyota’s and Honda’s are known for.. If your gonna buy foreign, why not buy the reliability of Japanese cars such as Toyota and Honda, for which they are known for, over some South Korean car that doesn’t even stand behind their products.. Good luck with your KIA! 🙄
I drive a 2014 Kia Soul and have the same burning oil issue. Mine burns about the same amount of oil as Scotty described in the video. One thing I do differently is that I change oil every 3k miles. I’m currently sitting at 146,000 miles and she still runs really great and haven’t had a single mechanical issue other than the burning oil. This is not enough to keep me from buying Kia. I love the brand and where they’re going. Can’t be any worse than something made by GM or Ford.
I stick to the factory recommended 5w-20 with a quality filter. I use only Mobile One Full Synthetic with a Wix or NAPA Gold (made by Wix) filter. A friend of mine has a Soul like mine with way less miles and he uses 10w-30 Regular Oil and Fram oil filters. He burns oil.
My 2015 soul never had any trouble burning oil until my local Valvoline started insisting on using vacuum machine to change out oil. 😡 I went there for 8 yrs and 120,000 miles with no issues. First time they used that machine I ended up with no oil on the stick within month of my oil change. I am going to start taking it somewhere that will do it by hand again.
I’ve got a 2012 Kia Sorento AWD with the big V-6 and it is loaded with every option available in 2012. I bought it used with 37,000 miles in June 2015. I religiously change the oil and other fluids, and do routine maintenance as needed. It currently has 175k on it, and it is probably the best car I have ever owned. I’ll probably roll it until the wheels fall off. I may own the exception instead of the rule, but my Kia Sorento is a great car!
I own a 2016 Sorento loaded as well. Never had a problem with it. It had 400 miles on it when I bought it and now at 102,000. Still runs like the day I bought it. I will drive it until it doesn’t go anymore. I think all cars have a breaking point. Just take care of them.
I have a 2016 Sorento AWD LX with the 3.5 liter V6 purchased in September 2016 with 26,000 miles. Right now it has 87,000 miles and is getting 28+ mpg in the 60-70 mpg range. My wife has been the primary driver. No goosing of the motor and using Michelin Defender tires. Standard maintenance. I can't complain. With current prices, I hope it keeps going.
Had a 2016 Sorento EX V6 with no major problems (stupid oil pressure sensor was all), but the engine was great, never burned oil. Was totaled in an accident at 115k miles, but really enjoyed that car. Replaced with a Mazda, though.
Kia/Hyundai problems are the Theta II family of motors, 2.0L, 2.0T, 2.4, and probably new 2.5L engines, they need intake cleaning every 15k and combustion chamber every 50k or so depending on driving habits.
Screw all dealerships! Do your own maintenance from day 1. We bought a brand new 2010 Ford Edge, changed fluids in the first 2,000 miles to Amsoil. Sitting at 172K today with no problems... going strong!
Oh, man. I love everything about this channel. The borderline videotitles, the brutally honest advice, the memes. It's over the top in a good way. Go Scotty! 😂👍
My 2018 kia soul just hit 50000 and just had to get the oil pressure switch replaced after it poured oil from the engine, AND the transmission went out at the same time. They replaced it but I'm looking to get rid of it asap.
i've had oil pressure switchs fail twice in 30 years. once on a toyota starlet with about 140k and the other time was my saturn sw2 with about 165k. an oil pressure switch failing at 50k is unreal.
Now is a great time to trade in a decent car, I paid $17K for a 2017 Sportage 3 years ago, got $15k for a trade in on a used RDX for $13k more, also 2017. That's about the same price difference I would have had 3 years ago.
I used to work at a body shop that shared parking lots with Kia and all this information is 100% accurate. Practically all the mechanics did was engine jobs. There were always massive piles of engine crates. It was also the dirtiest dealer out of all the dealerships nearby. The customer service was awful also. It was not an uncommon sight to see melted optimas in the back parking lot because they had a habit of catching on fire.
For work I sometimes service a Hyundai dealership, and I literally had a flashback of what you were describing of car engines on the floor, extremely dirty, the mechanics just look like they just worked on engines all day.
@@edscamperventure there’s a reason they “offer” a “10 year 100,000 mile warranty” 😂 smh. It’s cuz the cars can barely make it that long. Then you’re out of a car by the time they actually decide to replace your engine
Wow, that’s crazy. I’ve never seen an engine crate at the Honda or Toyota dealer. Kia really has some good looking cars these days but I’m still going to stick with Toyota, Lexus, Honda, or Acura.
So true. A friend had a Sonata that after only 2 years and a mere 11000 miles, engine went dead. Engine was replaced, 6000 miles later, engine started ticking, engine went bad, she got rid of it. Bought a Honda Accord. She said was worth the price.
I've had 2 Kias and both have been great. 1st one was a 07 Rio 5 it still runs great with over 240k miles and is a daily running car. My 2nd 2014 kia soul plus with only 48k miles but no mechanical problems and no oil burner. I do my own maintenance and use quality oil and filters. My son in-law worked where they make oil filters and gave me the inside scoop.
Get an intake cleaning on your Soul, my 2017 Sportage started using oil at 50k miles, by 68k it was .5 qt in 300 miles, then I learned about the intake and combustion chamber cleaning. I used full synthetics with a kia filter every 5 months, no matter what mileage per my warranty. Due to GDI and PCV, carbon build up will cause the oil useage.
Best car i ever owned was a 2007 Kia Sportage, 4cyl 2wd. Went over 300K before I retired it. Parts were average priced, went great through the snow, no rust considering being a PA car. Only negative was it seemed to go through tires quicker than other cars ive owned.
I had a 2016 Kia, lots of little things went wrong with it. At 60k I took the lo$$ and I listen to Scotty Kilmer and got me a 18 Rav4 , never been happier.
I worked at a Kia dealership for a while and, since I had a friend who had had a bad experience with one, I went straight to the service department and asked customers what they thought about their cars. They all seemed to like them, some liked them very much.
Some people don't care and/or don't pay attention to their vehicles until they "break". When that happens they are mystified and ripe for the picking by some dishonest dealership/garage or mechanic. This particular idea makes paying much more for a Toyota "reasonable".
Just because you have a lemon in one car don't mean they're all the same I've had three Kias and I've never had one issue with any of them at all Kia's are great vehicles
I had a 2015 and put 110k on it with no problems except a bad gas cap after 59k. I kept the oil changed regularly and mostly drove highway miles. I sold it and bought a Toyota after hearing about all the bad engines out there. Lucky I guess.
@Quick Thinking I had the same experience as chazmaz zing. I bought a 2015 Soul with 98,000 miles and have driven it to 151,000 miles with no problems except the gas cap. I keep it tuned up with fresh oil every 3,000 miles. Maybe I’m doing something wrong in speaking on behalf of my personal experience?
I guess I'm one of the lucky ones as I have one of the first year souls...2010....with 160,000 miles, it burns no oil between changes. Have not had any issues. Keep it up Scotty!
Rich Canfield If I remember correctly, the 2010/2011 Souls for both the 1.6l and 2.0l, were Mitsubishi engines. 2012-onward are Hyundai/Kia built engines.
@@SteelFangedWolf dude that’s false, because people were also trying to say they got their engines from other Japanese manufacturers, but mechanics quickly disproved that.
@@HD_Kerino Hyundai/Kia used to have an alliance with Mitsubishi and Chrysler for engine production. That is why many of the early Kia/Hyundai's would keep running even when the entire rest of the car was falling apart (the Kia/Hyundai content) but eventually the alliance was ended after 2009. So that's probably what itsfunnycanihaz is referring to. Taken from GEMA's site, here is a list of vehicles that have used its engines: * Chrysler Sebring * Chrysler Sebring Conv. * Dodge Avenger * Dodge Caliber * Dodge Journey * Jeep Compass * Jeep Patriot * Mitsubishi Outlander * Mitsubishi Lancer * Mitsubishi Lancer Evo * Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback * Mitsubishi Galant * Mitsubishi Delica (Japan) * Peugeot 4007 * Citroen C-Crosser * Hyundai Sonata * Hyundai Azera (Korea) * Hyundai Genesis Coupe * Hyundai Santa Fe * Hyundai Spectra * Hyundai Starex (Korea) * Kia Optima * Kia Sportage * Kia Sorento
@@JA-rn5qv that’s also another lie, it was only for production and the swapping of trucks, and small cars but didn’t go so well when Kia went bankrupt. It’s just another lie that people spread to put down the Koreans, plus the old Sportage had a terribly unreliable engine.
I have the same model of KIA soul as yours (2010 KIA soul) I have no issues with it. I have owned it for eight years and it's still running perfectly. And as a matter of fact, my KIA soul made me fell in love with KIA.
Around 60,000 miles I noticed my 5.0 F150 consumed about a qt of oil every 5,000 miles. So I started checking it every 1,000 miles and found that there was zero oil consumption all the way up to 4,000 miles. Now I change it between 3,000-4,000 miles without any consumption. I used full synthetic btw.
I would imagine that everyone has the expectation that the engine in their new auto would last at least 100,000 miles without burning oil. But that's just me. I suppose the engines lifetime is like the transmission, lifetime being the powertrain warranty period.
I have 2016 Kia Forte, 275,000, mostly highway, miles (75% thereabouts). 1.8L non GDI engine. Never has any issues with it beyond normal wear and tear items: brakes, tires, a couple suspension components. Engine doesn't use a single drop of oil between the recommended 7,500 change intervals. I have always used 100% synthetic oil. Looks as good as the day I bought it and and is a great car. Comfortable and fast enough for me. Maybe I was lucky I suppose, but I would buy another.
@@slowgoat6089 Yes I did actually. I deliver medical supplies to people released from hospital in upstate NY. I go anywhere from Albany to Buffalo, Massena to Binghamton. I deliver from Syracuse and I typically deliver 5 days a week, sometimes Saturday too.
I own 2 Kia Souls 2021 Automatic for my wife and 2018 manual 6 speed for my business, I transport trucks and RV'S and never have any kind of problems with them, best warranty out there right now.
2013 KIA Optima owner. I am on engine #2 after replacing #1 at 130K due to burning a quart every 400-miles. Replaced under warranty. Was told I have lifetime warranty on engine #2. Had to perform the "oli test" twice (dealer performs oil change, seals dip stick, return to dealer after 1000-miles to witness oil level is below 1 quart). PIA to do, but at least they honored the warranty. Shoulda bought a Toyota.
Bought a brand new Kia Soul 2010 i grew to love it after owning a hyundai getz for 8 years. Travelled across Australia and still to this day i have never had an issue with it besides a fan relay switch. Heap of leg room and suits our family well. There are quite a few around and owners seem really happy with its fuel economy and reliability.
I had a 08 Sorento that I bought brand new I definitely agree with the warranty work that they don’t really want to back from the dealership. On mine the roof rack was assembled wrong and the rear bar was put in front of the rear stop. It probably wouldn’t have been a problem except the only way to remove the stops and move the bar behind it was to remove the whole roof rack. The screw for the stop was at the bottom of the bar. The dealership was pissed when I demanded they fix it so I could actually separate the bars farther than 10 inches. They told me you realize that’s a big job…..well yeah I do but you sold me a defective product so fix it. They were so mad they had to remove the window and headliner just to remove two screws it took them 3 weeks to get it done. At first they didn’t want to give me a rental car either so I had to call Kia and complain lol. They told me if I needed anymore warranty work to go to another dealer. Never bought another car from them again.
"They told me if I needed anymore warranty work to go to another dealer."....absolutely amazing dude, and totally believable! I worked for a Chrysler dealer in OKC back in the 90's. You speak truth! Nothing made the dealer and shop manager angier than warranty work. The biggest problem in their case was getting reimbursed by the manufacturer for the labor, parts and not making a profit while doing it...that's why they hated it! Their mechanics didn't work for free and parts obviously cost money. Then there's the fact that a ZERO profit "warranty work" car was now taking up both time and space in the repair bay. I read somewhere that dealers and manufacturers are basically at war, until a customer shows up...then it's both of them against you! (it's very true!)
My 2014 Soul uses about a quart every 1000 miles or so. However, when I did a cross country road trip of about 1,200 miles, it didn't use a single drop. I had brought oil with me, expecting to have to top it up at least once, but it was still exactly on the full mark when I arrived. I'm still not sure why this would be - I guess it only consumes oil around town and not on the highway for some reason.
My guess is that it doesn't burn the oil until the oil gets broken down. In other words, it might not burn any oil for the first 3 or 4 thousand miles, but after that, as the oil breaks down (loses viscosity) it begins to burn. I've read several comments that point to this. It kinda makes sense, but obviously the design is flawed. Change the oil every 3k, and it might do very well.
@@Curt100 No it can't be that, it burns oil at a steady pace, no matter how recently the oil was changed (and I already do 3k oil changes, always have). I think the other commenter was right - it probably only burns oil only during the heating up phase, so it burns more over several short trips that on a long journey.
Nah, that’s just a lemon. I have a 2013 that’s only had a battery and the blower motor replaced and it’s got 230,000+. It’s my daily driver. Bought a 2019 Jeep renegade with just shy of 40k certified used-(like that actually means anything 🙄)-needed a whole new tranny less than a month after we took ownership. Spend the whole summer going back and forth with dealerships to get it fixed and the guys there had not even a hairsbreadth of a clue about their own make vehicle. Tried to tell me there was an oil cartridge. 🤦♀️ I stared at the technicians in shock. You cannot be serious. I walked in looking like a mark-a mom with two small kids in tow-but the thing is, I work on all my cars. And I mean work on them. Not just oil Change and tires. I mean cmon I have a dodge Dakota-I need to be half mechanic to go anywhere with that sucker lol
I have had the same experience. Owned my optima for 11yrs. Daily driver and I put on 500km a week back and forth to work. Reg maintenance is key, and I don’t bag the engine, I drive normaly. Best car I have ever had out of the 50+ over 60yrs. Well Maybey my 2009 Dakota was better. Loved that truck. Cheers
I'd assume most of you purchased new, and possibly trade often as well. The horror story for many, not just Kia/Hyundai in my opinion comes in the used market where people buy vehicles where the oil was changed well past the due date. I know people who try to play the 15,000-20k oil change tricks because they think they are saving the world. The 2nd owner is going to have a bad engine for sure.
I have a 2019 Kia Soul with the naturally-aspirated engine. I have over 60,000 miles on my car and have never had any problem with it burning oil. I suppose that was a defective engine, or model year. Kia has had several recalls on their engines and has replaced over half a million of them. I do agree with you about getting the service contracts in writing. I enjoy your UA-cam channel. This is my second Kia and I have had good luck with both of them.
2007 Kia Spectra just went down a few months ago. It has over 291 thousand miles on it. My 2008 Kia Rio still running great at 172 thousand. Strongly considering buying another one.
Yes, know the story. My sister had a 2014 KIA Forte and the same thing happened. It burned so much oil that it damaged the catalytic converter. They held the car for three months and decided that they would not change the engine. They did give her a great buy-back price toward a new one. It was cheaper to go that route than to rent a car. She is going to be smart this time and sell the car before it starts burning oil and get something else. All the car dealers stick you up in the service department. This is why I am still learning how to fix my own car!
Hyundai / Kia do not honor their warranties.... They Not Worth buying due to this. Toyota or Honda is the way to go! We have a 2016 KIA Soul with a 'Bad' catalytic converter - KIA refuses to cover it. My 'solution' is to never buy another KIA. We have had this car since new and have taken very good care of it at the KIA dealer. The initial low price is not worth it in the long term.
My neighbor commutes ti the city in his 2012 Kia Optima. The engine blew at 125K miles in 2019 and Kia gave him another engine. It's 3 years later and he drives 100 miles a day. New, used motor, it's still going and hasn't cost him anything in 3 years.
@@MikeJones-pp7gu I just watched a UA-cam video on a 2016 Toyota Tacoma having its transmissiin changed because coolant leaked into the transmission and grenaded it. Any make has the potential to have major issues.
@@MikeJones-pp7gu Kias are garbage on wheels I remember when they came out and everyone who bought one needed an engine and when you go to the junkyard today the only new cars you see there are kias and Fords. You can buy a 10 year old Kia for the price of a 1990s Toyota for a reason...
As somebody who is more fond of old cars from the 1980s-2000s, I might just get a kia soul someday. It's one of the few suvs/crossovers and modern cars that I can get behind owning. It's pretty much what would happen if a Scion xb and a suv wore the potara earrings from DBZ and fused together to create one very square crossover.
My thoughts exactly. The later gens seem to have more issues. I did driving school with a company that exclusively uses Souls, drives them forever, and the owner told me that 1st gen is great but after that there are some sketchy years. They all get a bad rep because of it. I have a 2010 that I just bought and am getting to know. Replacing things and listening to things. Inspection by a journeyman went great but I suspect he didn’t look as close as I’d like and so I’m trying to learn as much as I can to service this lil thing and hope it gives me some fun years. Great little car to drive. The electric ones are really fun to drive! But I’m not ready wallet wise or practicality wise to go electric as there aren’t a ton of charging stations yet where I am. Anyway. I pray for my little Soul and its eternal life 🙏😂
We all know the deal with car reviewers. They generally cannot say anything bad about the car without risking getting black-balled by the manufacturer. Luckily, Scotty gets his cars from viewers so he can circumvent that whole biased system and tell us the truth!!
My 2012 Optima has 93k miles. I have taken it for all the engine recalls and change the oil once a year (put on less than 5k miles a year). After all the Kia disaster stories I have been waiting for it to go south but it has been a good car for the most part. It never burns oil, none at all. This week I had to replace the brake pedal switch, but that was easy to replace and only cost $15. It is a fun car to drive, my wife hates driving our new VW Jetta she only wants to drive the Kia.
To be fair and honest, my wifes 2013 RAV4 burnt about 1qt from 6-7K mile oil changes. By the time we hit 60K miles, it oddly stopped burning oil. It has 124k on it now and it is running perfectly.
Gf's sportage engine blew up at 50k. I hate when people say "the new ones are actually nice now"- um no, they just haven't been on the road long enough. She has a Rav 4 now, much happier.
Hyundai / Kia do not honor their warranties.... They Not Worth buying due to this. Toyota or Honda is the way to go! We have a 2016 KIA Soul with a 'Bad' catalytic converter - KIA refuses to cover it. My 'solution' is to never buy another KIA. We have had this car since new and have taken very good care of it at the KIA dealer. The initial low price is not worth it in the long term.
I blew up a kia in 4 years 80k miles and the dealer fought me about replacing the engine. They tried to say the new spark plugs i got installed melted into the engine. Anyways I only ended up paying $400 for fluids afterall, it still had the same problem of saying engine was getting hot. Ended up trading it in for a Toyota.
@@bradleyscarreviews No, there is a video I found from S.Korea where a 2022 Optima with a 2.5L was in for oil consumption at 9,000 kilometers. Kia/Hyundai has not fixed the problems with GDI.
I have a 2016 Kia Optima, I bought it basically brand new, extremely low milage, 1 owner, and it was a freight car. Also got a really good deal on it. It's about 50K miles right now and it still runs amazing and I do normal maintenance on it. Guess I got lucky and got one of those better built Kia's.
You aren't lucky.....Korean cars have come a long way Scotty just needs to get checked for excessive carbon monoxide poisoning in his brain..... It was the old cars that did him in with carburetors I think.....vary volatile fumes from gasoline venting out the carburetors back then
I just replaced a 2014 Kia Rio 1.6L engine for a friend. The old engine has evidence that it was not maintained. There was sludge all inside the engine. Oil was NOT changed at the normal intervals. He said the car was running terrible and there was a knock. Mind you the engine gave up the ghost at 153,000 miles. I told him given the neglect this engine received was amazing the engine lasted that long. He says the replacement engine is running great. I placed 3.8 quarts of 5w20 synthetic oil and new filter in it. He went ahead and full in unknowing to me with an extra 1.2 quart of unknown weight of Lucas oil. I then told him when the engine breaks take it to someone else. SMH
My Niro FE has 421,000 miles. Engine just started a minor coolant leak (1/4 cup every 200 miles) that’s not visible and the heater quit last week. Suspect the heat exchanger is leaking into the exhaust. Other than that, it’s been awesome. Still performs well. Love it 👍.
@@lightsfansofthewest481 I bought the car new in June, 2018 as a 2017 leftover. I average 80-100k+ miles per year escorting Oversized Loads in Florida and occasionally Georgia. As an Escort driver, we are not required to have a CDL and not restricted by law on drive time’s like the Semi drivers. I’ve done as much as 16,800 miles in 30 days…yeah, it sux. Escort a load 600 miles and immediately turn around and drive another 600 back to grab another load for the next day. That’s the extreme days but can also go as little as 100 miles for the day. It’s feast or famine with this gig.
The best part of this video is the smashed up black truck in the back with the floormat covering the widow and the rock on top to hold it in place. That's some high tech stuff right there.
We bought a 2021 Kia Soul X-Line for the wife. Yeah I know... but hey she liked the way they look and our two adult daughters own Kia's and have had excellent reliability. Anyway, NO REGRETS. It now has about 18,000 miles. I've changed the oil every 5,000 miles (at the dealer) and the indicator line on the oil dipstick has *never* budged off of full so far.
At 73,000 miles my 2013 Kia Soul, 1.6 ltr motor, burned 1.5 quarts every thousand miles. The dealer sealed the dipstick for 1,000 miles. Oil burn confirmed. They did another thousand-confirmed. KIA replaced the motor and gave me a hybrid loaner. It took them 2 weeks. All and all, I was satisfied. There is a lawsuit going on related to this issue
Had the power steering warning light illuminate on my 2019 RX350 with less than 5K miles on it . 2nd time it came on I called the dealer who said it wasn’t safe to drive so I should flatbed it to them - at my cost. After a few choice unverbalized thoughts, I drove it the 12 miles to them. They said there was no problem and oh by the way, we will do you a favor and won’t charge you for the inspection…on a new car - unsafe to drive…a few months later, the PS warning came back…traded it in for a Honda. RX350 was a $60K piece of crap just like the dealer.
@@Mo-wq1oq LOVE IT! it’s our 3rd CRV and 4th Honda. Got the Touring Hybrid. Getting 35mpg+ in the city- and those are very short trips. Handles better than the RX ever did and I think the electronics are better designed - at least compared to the ‘19 RX. Safety features seem to work better, too.
Your issue sounds more with the dealership than the vehicle. A Power steering light, especially if a mechanic says nothing is actually wrong with the Power Steering, isn't a big deal. Just get a OBD tool and reset the code yourself.
You could have captured the image and then send to corporate. Lexus has the best customer service. They do not tolerate that behavior from a dealer. They could close down that dealer if it's their typical behavior.
In doing research on the KIA Soul, I have spoken with 6-8 KIA Soul owners over the past year - and they all LOVED their Soul. No major problems, routine maintenance. Souls have excellent ground clearance, comfortable seats, lots of headroom (even for very tall people), good fuel economy, lots of room front and back - and when you lower the back seats, they have LOTS of cargo space. For $22k for the base LX model, it's worth a look.
Call the Soul crap if you want Scotty but my 2021 model has been very reliable and economical. I like the car and with mileage average of 38 mpg highway and 35 around town I will hang on to it for a while. No oil burning issues and I have the oil and filter changed every 5,000 miles. Has been very reliable. I do check the oil everything I fuel up. The car has never burned more then 1/2 a quart, and that was during the first oil change cycle of 7,500 miles. Then went to 5,000 mile changes. The voice of reason was speaking loudly. Say what you want.
Many companies are making junk because they only care about making $ in the short term. Long-term quality and name recognition don’t factor into their spreadsheets. I’m not buying anything but a Toyota or Honda ever again. My wife’s 2015 Hyundai Genesis Ultimate manual is teaching me a lesson. Sad part is she loves, loves that dam car. So until I can talk her into a Lexus, I’m stuck maintaining the thing, and it’s only got 54k on the clock.
Totally agree on all points! The only valid reason to buy something that's not Honda or Toyota, is if you must buy a truck, cargo van, or want to go EV.
Absolutely no idea, didn't show any problems before. All of a sudden, the oil light came on and flickered randomly. Took it in and the engine was about to quit. Shame since I liked the car.
My 2015 Soul just went into Limp Home Mode today. Called the and left a voicemail at the dealership for the service manager. I’m hoping to hear from the dealership service department tomorrow. After seeing all the videos of people having issues getting replacement engines from Kia I think I’m being overly optimistic. I wish you luck with your engine replacement!!
I'm glad I found this video. My 2014 Kia started burning a half quart each 1000 miles sometime after reaching 85000 miles. They've been good about most factory recalls, but there seems to have been so many since I've owned this vehicle. They didn't have a fix for the cold engine start code. And they didn't offer any immobilizers even with all the theft going on in the Midwest.
I bought my Kia sportage with 19k miles on it as the second owner. It was the nicest car I had ever owned. I done oil changes every 5k. Around 110k miles it started using 1qt per 1k miles. I replaced pvc and paid a mechanic to do a tune up. At 135k miles on my way to work the engine failed. Kia told me I was eligable for a engine but because I had not done the recalls I couldnt get the engine. However as the second owner I never received recall notices.
i was a mechanic for 32 years and i will tell you that dealerships and dealer mechanics hate warranty work and will avoid doing it if they can A. there is no money in it for the shop and B. the mechanic gets paid less for the job so they will try to blow you right out the door until they can't anymore. i once had a new 87 pontiac Grand prix that had a ball joint go bad and i had gotten a bumper to bumper warranty. three years in the power antenna died and it had a bad ball joint. they kept telling me the ball joint was good. they did not replace it until i threatened to drive the car right through their showroom. they gave me nothing but grief but i made sure i got my money back out of the price for that warranty
@@MikeJones-pp7gu Problems started with Theta II GDI motors. I know guys with over 150k on a 2011 and 2013 and zero problems. My 2014 Optima started knocking at start up after sitting a couple of days, Kia put in 10w30 and said they found no problem. I traded it for a Tucson turbo 1.6L. My wifes 2017 Sportage started burning oil a t 50k, I put in 10w30 and reduced it, but left their 5w20 in for winter and at 68k it was using .5 qt in 300 miles. I then learned of the intake and combustion chamber cleaning, got it done, traded it off for a 2017 RDX.
That’s great! My 2021 Sportage was stuttering at 14,000 miles then the audio screen started going black randomly. Dealer said they couldn’t find anything wrong. Traded it in for a RAV4 and managed to get 25,000 trade for my Kia thankfully
In my limited ownership experience with a couple Kia vehicles they get a B. Had an 09 Optima LX with the 4cyl for 150k miles. Reliable car, comfortable enough, simple maintenance, but had weak interior door handles though. A 2010 Kia Soul+ with the 2.0l 4cyl. Easy to work on, affordable parts, but feels like a cheap car probably because it is, and has an interference engine with a timing belt. 2016 Sorento SX AWD with the 3.3l V6. Many issues with all the electronic gizmos at
If you had Hondas , you'd be happier. My wife has an orange 09 Honda fit 5 sport , rides a little rough bc it's small. But it doesn't really feel cheap. Nothing has broken, it has 200k , and it's barely needed anything but maintenance,. My 5 spd accord has 231k and has barely needed anything besides maintenance, both still have the original clutch. They both just needed minor suspension work recently, like tie rod ends, and stabilizer links, but not till like 180k , and our roads suck, and they're both older cars and had the original suspension
Have to wonder Scotty, WHY you LOVE dissing Hyundai and kia. You laugh, and clearly ENJOY ripping these cars apart. It's well known that if you don't follow the recommended break in procedure, it can cause an engine to consume excessive oil. Ive seen this on multiple manufacturers.
@@richsweeney1115 I disagree I had an accent that I drive to the scrap yard the other week with 415 000 kms on it Everything still worked It has a 110 horse 1.6 that's dam reliable and great on fuel The kia souls beta 2 2 liter also good especially mated to a 5 speed gearbox
@@fil1329 here I disagree u I had a close experience with a Hyundai vehicle which was purchased brand new and later had electronic problems which short all the electric supplied motors also we have the oil leaking /burning issues here too
Our Soul (2.0 engine) made it ~80k before it began burning oil. Now right at 100k and it absolutely devours oil. Oil Pressure light flickers regularly at idle due to low pressure (using 10w-30 to keep it somewhat at bay). This is all with religious 5k mile synthetic OCIs with Kia or NAPA filters (and 3750-mile OCIs since oil consumption began). I expect the engine isnt long for the world now. Had the SC200 recall applied around 90k after the knock sensor began to occasionally fire….hope they’ll replace my engine but not banking on it. Edit: PS- my ‘03 V8 4Runner burns a half a quart every 5000 miles, with nothing but 7,500 mile OCIs it’s whole life- 201k and counting. Still stuns me how clear it stays on the dipstick.
Kias are cheap, fun, smooth, packed with features. Nowadays, all cars cost $25k and above. I’m a Toyota guy but disgusted with markups that I’ll look elsewhere
Take your Kia to Scotty, and he will make another video telling Kias can be good vehicles like he did in the past with a Forte! He likes to mint money from UA-cam Algorithm and keep making videos and speaking loud!
We love you Scotty but we have 4 KIA vans. All four have over 200,000 miles on them. There have been no engine issues (all four have 6 cylinders) we love them. One is over 300k. All four are in our service department. The technicians do not even want a new replacement.
@@allencampbell8322 I see, well it seems as if the six cylinder engines are better. Here in the UK it's mostly fours and turbo triples. Our little 108 returns 55mpg combined. It's a Toyota engine and box, naturally aspirated, but has had a new water pump at 42k and it sounds like the clutch bearing is getting noisy. Still I guess you can't have the penny and the bun!
Two things Scotty is not aware of, it's the Theta II motors only, 2.0, 2.0T, 2.4 and probably new 2.5L. All their GDI motors will need an intake cleaning at 15k, a combustion chamber cleaning at 50k miles due to PCV and GDI. The v6s and 1.6L motors are fine. But the biggest problem is dealers not supporting their warranty, that goes for any make.
The trade off is that the engines have good warranties. I'm driving around a 2015 Kia soul and it's burning oil because the pistons are wearing out but the mechanic at the dealer says they'll replace the engine free of charge when the engine fails. Usually the engine is still covered under warranty even if you buy it used, which I did.
I had a 2017 sonata bought it brand new and it didn’t have any issues what so ever the first three years but then it started acting strange at around 40,000 miles traded it for. 2021 GMC Terrain started having transmission issues only after a few thousand miles. I’m about to switch back to Honda Accord and will remain there forever. No car is infallible but a busted transmission at 2-3 thousand miles is crazy
Theta II motors are the problem. From roughly 2013 to 2018. Just run full synthetics, get a valve intake cleaning every 15k miles or so, combustion chamber at around 50k miles and it will keep things clean. I only learned about those 2 months ago. They don't have to take anything apart, both cleanings together ran $650 at Kia. If you have a Kia in those years, make sure you have the knock sensor update, you will have a lifetime warranty on the engine with proof of oil changes. And only use Kia/Hyundai filters, they are made very well.
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I have a 2017 Kia optima that is a EF I think which means energy efficient. It's not a sports car but I like it I'm sure the hell hope I don't start having any problems I'm at 20,000 miles and so far it drives like a dream I bought it certified with 12,000 miles and I have the warranty that comes with it and I bought an additional warranty. I'll make sure and get every single thing in writing in the future if something goes wrong
SCOTTY TELLS EVERY KIND OF TOOL HE USES IN THESE VIDEOS EXCEPT THE KIND OF PHONE HE HAS. I KNOW IT'S A GOOGLE PIXEL.
I'M JUST WONDERING WHICH ONE.
HEY SCOTTY!!! I have an 02 BMW(bigMoneyWaster) 330xi. It blows out white smokes here n there...runs like crap. Neighbor said d head gasket blown but I changed coolant n no oil was mixed in it...the oil didn’t have any coolant in it....should I just sell it? I spent 2,200 on it, it lasted me 2minths n has been sitting for 6months....I’m poor n wanted a nice car I don’t kno wat to do
@@ezriderspewstruth8867 it may not be a blown head gasket it could be piston rings does it smoke all the time? Or just on startup? Possibly valve seals of the smoke goes away after warm up
Scotty just check the pcv value or change with brand new one and check it stops burning oil. Because what i was experience before they had issue with PCV valve going bad even if it done only 1000 miles. And I'm not in the US but dealership in here are more useful and friendly with customers they even list the all common issues and they fix those free even when you out of the 7year warranty. It doesn't matter you needs an engine for company fault they do it gor you for free.
The worst vehicle I ever owned was a Jeep. After 100,000 km it started falling apart. Wife has a Kia Sportage with well over 200,000 km and still going strong.
My Ceed estate has the same amount of oil from oil change to oil change, my only aggravation is the road noise that gets amplified when the surface textures ar less smooth and also when the fuel tank gets below half full.
F jeeps
Got 08 Sportage with 202k miles on it
The pre 2010 KIA’s were okay I guess, but after 2010 they started having all the lovely problems
Worst car I've owned was a 20 wrx.
On my 2012 Kia Soul I travelled over 330,000km on it and had just about zero problem. The only problem I can remember was the alternator failing at around 280km which was only natural considering the mileage. It was the most problem-free car I have ever had driven. There's reason Kia is doing so great all over Europe.
That's why Scotty is full of it.
123000 miles on my 2013 soul, never noticed oil loss and just changed spark plugs for the first time and they looked good.
I plan on getting a 2020 Kia Rio or similar years, thoughts about the car? I'm typically a Honda guy so this is all new territory for me. From front to back I have little idea on this manufacturer. Thanks.
love my kia soul excellent vehicle
Dame here my 2010 kia soul has 210k miles only issues I had was alternator and coil pack still driving it 4 hrs a day 5 days a week
I have owned 3 kia's . First was an optima I had for over ten years with zero problems. Then I bought my kid a kia Soul it had 80k and runs perfectly and my wife has a 2020 kia sportage which has 20k on it so far with zero issues... So I don't know what this guy has going on but they all had been good cars for me...
20000, 80000? Nothing
I own a grand caravan 1998 with 253k miles on it, my transmission still works, everyone else i know that had one went through many transmission related problems, also know several people with kia/Hyundai cara, all with major engine problems and also have one cousin with absolutely no problema at all in his Hyundai
Hyundai and Kia identical with regard to engines, I believe. Sister companies, they both use the same stuff. (And their steel. Frame is bassically a roll cage!)@@TrollingSince1991
When people buy a used car, they are taking a gamble with a car that may not have been properly maintained/maintenance by the previous owner. I own a Kia soul 2013 with 80,000 miles no problems..
That’s a lot for a KIA lol
I'm the 2nd owner of a 2011 (1st gen.) Kia Soul. The instrument cluster failed quickly, but fortunately there was still a short time frame of warranty left, so that repair was covered. I've now driven this Soul over 100,000 miles with reasonable normal maintenance. It still runs and drives super good, and still burns no oil. The only constant issues throughout this time is the radio won't power up about a quarter of the time, and maybe 1% of the time, the heat/AC fan won't work. Those issues have been consistent for years and have not gotten worse over time.
My wife has a 2015 Kia Sorento, fought with Kia about burning oil, after going through there testing for months, they finally replaced the motor. They STINK…
@Michael M lucky you! I have a 2013 Hyundai Sta Fe and have been fighting regarding excessive oil consumption from Hyundai Canada but no luck because it's not under the recall items and when I notice it I was late it was beyond warranty. The engine light does not lit even if I have less than 1cm of oil from the tip of the dipstick. I had 255k km right now and I have to tap a gallon of oil every 10,000km.
Try Pennzoil Platinum or the Right Amsoil but I never used Amsoil myself
Ford is bad about warranty repair also.
I had same problem like you burning oil in my kia sorento after I went 10 times or more in dealer and kia give me the worst customer service no help at all I just trade in get rid off big problem..they don t care at all about customers
B T. cheap price, low payments, easy credit.
The crazy thing about cars; regardless of the make, sometimes you get a good one, sometimes you get a bad one. I’ve got a 2.0L 2010 Kia Soul w/ just under 300K miles. It doesn’t burn a drop of oil. The only thing I’ve had to replace is tires, headlight bulbs, 1 tag light bulb, a battery, and the AC belt. It’s not a sexy car, but it’s never left me stranded. If I had to complain about anything, it would be that if I leave the headlight selector in the automatic position, when you turn the car off the tail lights will stay on if I leave the key in the ignition and kill the battery.
300K awesome! :)
Dealing with a KIA dealership when it comes to service was one of the most frustrating experiences of my life.
Try lg electronics
@@JS-te4gz
That must be Korean work ethics...
@@canardeur8390 Product isn't too bad warranty is non existent
Korean companies are the worst when it comes to faulty product resolution. Zero regard for customer satisfaction.
I've also had issues with LG. Hate them passionately. Not sure how these companies stay in business.
I have a KIA for 18 years with absolutely zero problems. I still have it and the garage guys said it is like new.
I have a 2017 Kia Soul. My son has my 2010 with over 100,000 miles on. I intend on buying another next year. Great little car!
I have a 2020 Kia Soul with 124,000 kms on it. No issues and I love it so far! I’m a light footed Uber driver though.
Factory tires were crap though.
In Germany (and I assume elsewhere in Europe) KIA is doing very well and has increased its image greatly over the last couple of years. The reliability seems to be pretty good too given that they give a 7 year warranty on their cars.
Same in Australia
They are doing well since they do they cheapest car out there that people can buy brand new, but they usually break down much easier comparing to other brands.
10 years in the US.
Having had two family members that had Kia's which both had serious engine and steering problems, in both cases Kia fought them tooth and nail to deny warranty coverage to actually repair the defective designs. Even if a car company offers a 100 year warranty but they refuse to honor the warranty or even acknowledge there is any problem, or when they do honor the warranty but the part they replace still has the same defect as the original part, then the whole "much better warranty" part of the equation gets tossed right out the window. Kia is the IKEA of the automotive world. They along with Hyundai focus mainly on styling, and flashy gadgetry but that comes at a sacrifice which is attention to reliability and/or foolproof design.
@@JA-rn5qv it's weird how one company can behave one way in one country and the total opposite in another country. Here in Australia Kia, Hyundai and Subaru are known to have the pinnacle of customer service at most dealerships. I have heard a couple horror stories but once head office got involved the problems were solved quickly and dealers even had to compensate and apologise to customers
I love my Kia Soul. 144,000 miles and still running GREAT.
I have a soul as well, only 71k miles but I've put about 40k on it myself in about 3 years. At most it's only ever needed routine maintenance and tlc.
Scotty's hands flailing around are like 2 mesmerizing wands you cant stop watching
I have a 2019 Kia Soul and use full synthetic oil and do oil changes every 5000 miles. I Haven’t had any issues with it. Close to hitting 50k miles on it now. It’s been one of the best cars I’ve owned.
I have a 2020 Kia Sportage AWD and I use full synthetic oil as well. I have about 52,000 miles on it. No problems whatsoever. It’s a great car.
@@Druguana Scotty gets another thumbs down from me lol. Kia’s are nice and dependable cars imo.
Same with the Sorento (at least the one I own). 60K miles, runs like a champ. Same here, full synthetic oil and oil change every 5000 miles.
My 2015 optima is over 150k miles now but needed a second engine for a known recall issue with engines catching on fire. I want to say it happened somewhere between 50 and 70k when my og engine made a pop sound n oil leaked everywhere. Dealer replaced for free but nobody can tell me where my new engine came from n I get free oil changes for the life of the car, it was every 5k but now every 3k n they couldn't explain why that was either.
At this point ngl i don't even worry about the engine. I know ppl are cheap but theyd have to assume someone would lawyer up if it was the same issue again I've had the car 7 years n drove it hella hard but stay on top of basic maintenance. ima drive if til the wheels fall off anyway. I don't think my Vin ever changed since I bought it so the engine prolly has a diff Vin physically stamped on it but it's prolly under the cover. The car overall has served me well, I don't think I'd buy kia again, but only cuz I've had time to save so I have more options than in 2015
I have a 2011 Soul that has over 200K and still runs like a top. Also, Scotty, the 2.0 has a timing belt. For what it's worth, I've had no major problems with my Kia Soul.
I've manged to track down a good condition 2011 soul and I'm picking it up tomorrow, and I'm extremely lucky to have found it. Especially in this market.
As far as I know, engines nowadays are made less sealed to have less friction, thus have better gas mileage. It's even written in the owner manual. They are squeezing every mile at the cost of reliability. Bad choice if you ask me.
Emissions lol
Completely different time we live in now compared to 20 years ago really, 20 years ago nobody really cared or paid attention as much to gas mileage. How fast the market has changed from large boat vehicles like the Lincoln Town Car to economy vehicles with lots of tech. EV's are right around the corner now which is insane.
@@cdos9186 most likely because the population has drastically increased and there are more motorists on road now
Yeah use this 0w 16 oil 🙄
@@juanzamarripa3778 Agree to the new world order. You'll own nothing and you'll like it. Says the billionaires.
This is the right guy that can make America great again.
Salute Mr. Scotty
Make cars great again
I sacrificed 100k miles from the durability of the engine guys. I had to squeeze out 2 extra mpg guys. Besides, they'll come back and buy a new model in 5 years.
Saluting Mr. MAGA Scotty from Aus 👍🏼👍🏼🇭🇲
My Soul is old 2011 and still running pretty darn well. So far, it's never broken down on me. I love my Soul!
Sure bud
It is well with my Soul.
@@DeathhAngel1 Not saying it doesn't need maintenance, but its not broken down, so far.
My 2013 Kia Soul 6 speed stick shift was made in Korea, 123,000 miles, burns no oil. No problems just routine maintenance.
Haha....I know someone who had the 6 SPD soul. It had a lifter noise by 90k , and by like 110k it needed a motor...and yes, she maintained it. She loved it untill she had to get rid of it bc she couldn't put a motor in it when it needed it
@@richsweeney1115 I have a kia pride with 350k on it burns no oil and kia have offered to buy it back.Should I donate it to Scotty to dissect?
@@front2427 I wish my iPhone had a dab emoji lol
@@front2427 yes we wanna know the ugly truth of how that shitbox held up till now
Have fun with it… got a 40 year old truck that handles better than a sketchy soul on the highway
Scotty. My Kia Soul is a 2012 with 247,000 miles and it is still going strong. No major engine work just general maintenance.
I'm on my fourth KIA. I started with a 2005 Optima LX that I picked up used. At 185k miles it was have oil pressure issues. I traded it in for a base model 2013 Rio. The Rio was nice but because it was a back killer getting in and out. Next was a 2016 Soul +. No more back problems. I liked the Soul so much that I traded it in for a 2021 Soul EX. The third generation Soul is by far the best yet. At 27k miles it is running flawlessly. No oil burning. I've owned many cars over the years and KIA has been the most reliable for me.
@Jonathan Sandoval It's called upgrading to a better vehicle because you are able to afford a newer vehicle. Switching vehicles within 20 years doesn't mean the cars you're replacing are bad.
@Jonathan Sandoval guess you don’t believe in upgrading.
I've owned several Japanese cars over the last 40 years, most of them were Hondas. None of them required any oil top ups between services. Why would they? Oil related issues with Kia engines is a global issue.
My Hondas rarely burned oil either, but they did leak a lot when they got older and the gaskets wore out.
I agree with you. My wife's 06 Accord with 170,000 miles and 4-5,000 mile oil changes does not use any oil. Funny, I got scared with her car with so many miles so I bought a new Toyota RAV4 hybrid (when you could still get one a couple of years ago) but it sits in the driveway and I drive it once a week to keep it up. I can't pry the Accord away from her and I know why. My solution is to give it to one of my granddaughters when she gets a license. That will work, grandmas do anything for the grandchildren.
Kia is Korean, not Japanese.
@@MikeJones-pp7gu First of all, how is Scotty washed up? He knows more about cars in his little pinky than you will know in your entire life.. And this is by far not the first time that he’s pointed out the absurd problems that Kia’s and Hyundai’s have.. They will never be the quality and long term reliability that Toyota’s and Honda’s are known for.. If your gonna buy foreign, why not buy the reliability of Japanese cars such as Toyota and Honda, for which they are known for, over some South Korean car that doesn’t even stand behind their products.. Good luck with your KIA! 🙄
@@BigKWS yeah definitely the gaskets that go out due to age but great design regardless so get those replaced and youre good to go!
I drive a 2014 Kia Soul and have the same burning oil issue. Mine burns about the same amount of oil as Scotty described in the video. One thing I do differently is that I change oil every 3k miles. I’m currently sitting at 146,000 miles and she still runs really great and haven’t had a single mechanical issue other than the burning oil. This is not enough to keep me from buying Kia. I love the brand and where they’re going. Can’t be any worse than something made by GM or Ford.
like scotty said, the oil degrades and becomes thin so as far as red flags go… burning oil is at the bottom of my list
I stick to the factory recommended 5w-20 with a quality filter. I use only Mobile One Full Synthetic with a Wix or NAPA Gold (made by Wix) filter. A friend of mine has a Soul like mine with way less miles and he uses 10w-30 Regular Oil and Fram oil filters. He burns oil.
I change mine every 3000 miles.. 80,000 miles with no issues.. Key fob finally broke😂
156k and the cat needs replaced. Running on 3 cylinders. Has always burned oil, but was a good car.
My 2015 soul never had any trouble burning oil until my local Valvoline started insisting on using vacuum machine to change out oil. 😡 I went there for 8 yrs and 120,000 miles with no issues. First time they used that machine I ended up with no oil on the stick within month of my oil change. I am going to start taking it somewhere that will do it by hand again.
I have a 2011 Kia soul with 219,000 miles. Lewis is still going strong 💪🏼 I hope to keep him for many years longer.
I’ve got a 2012 Kia Sorento AWD with the big V-6 and it is loaded with every option available in 2012. I bought it used with 37,000 miles in June 2015. I religiously change the oil and other fluids, and do routine maintenance as needed. It currently has 175k on it, and it is probably the best car I have ever owned. I’ll probably roll it until the wheels fall off. I may own the exception instead of the rule, but my Kia Sorento is a great car!
I own a 2016 Sorento loaded as well. Never had a problem with it. It had 400 miles on it when I bought it and now at 102,000. Still runs like the day I bought it. I will drive it until it doesn’t go anymore. I think all cars have a breaking point. Just take care of them.
I have a 2016 Sorento AWD LX with the 3.5 liter V6 purchased in September 2016 with 26,000 miles. Right now it has 87,000 miles and is getting 28+ mpg in the 60-70 mpg range. My wife has been the primary driver. No goosing of the motor and using Michelin Defender tires. Standard maintenance. I can't complain. With current prices, I hope it keeps going.
Had a 2016 Sorento EX V6 with no major problems (stupid oil pressure sensor was all), but the engine was great, never burned oil. Was totaled in an accident at 115k miles, but really enjoyed that car. Replaced with a Mazda, though.
Kia/Hyundai problems are the Theta II family of motors, 2.0L, 2.0T, 2.4, and probably new 2.5L engines, they need intake cleaning every 15k and combustion chamber every 50k or so depending on driving habits.
I have a 2013 with that same engine. Love it!
Screw all dealerships! Do your own maintenance from day 1. We bought a brand new 2010 Ford Edge, changed fluids in the first 2,000 miles to Amsoil. Sitting at 172K today with no problems... going strong!
Not exactly a selling point when Kia sends owners a letter saying they should not park their vehicles in their garage due to the risk of fire.
Oh, man. I love everything about this channel. The borderline videotitles, the brutally honest advice, the memes. It's over the top in a good way. Go Scotty! 😂👍
Do you like Kia cars?
@@AUA-camChannelwithNoName I wanna see ya, in a Kia 😂
@@AUA-camChannelwithNoName I never drove one so I couldn't tell you! But here in Europe Kia is very popular.
Scotty is god!
@@neewsay7979 You not going to mention the Kia recalls though?
My 2018 kia soul just hit 50000 and just had to get the oil pressure switch replaced after it poured oil from the engine, AND the transmission went out at the same time. They replaced it but I'm looking to get rid of it asap.
Good grief!
The way the used car market is set up, you should have no problem getting a decent buy off price for it. Look into it.
i've had oil pressure switchs fail twice in 30 years. once on a toyota starlet with about 140k and the other time was my saturn sw2 with about 165k. an oil pressure switch failing at 50k is unreal.
Now is a great time to trade in a decent car, I paid $17K for a 2017 Sportage 3 years ago, got $15k for a trade in on a used RDX for $13k more, also 2017. That's about the same price difference I would have had 3 years ago.
My Kia Soul was amazing. Traded it in at 80,000 miles. Never any trouble.
I used to work at a body shop that shared parking lots with Kia and all this information is 100% accurate. Practically all the mechanics did was engine jobs. There were always massive piles of engine crates. It was also the dirtiest dealer out of all the dealerships nearby. The customer service was awful also. It was not an uncommon sight to see melted optimas in the back parking lot because they had a habit of catching on fire.
For work I sometimes service a Hyundai dealership, and I literally had a flashback of what you were describing of car engines on the floor, extremely dirty, the mechanics just look like they just worked on engines all day.
@@edscamperventure there’s a reason they “offer” a “10 year 100,000 mile warranty” 😂 smh. It’s cuz the cars can barely make it that long. Then you’re out of a car by the time they actually decide to replace your engine
Wow, that’s crazy. I’ve never seen an engine crate at the Honda or Toyota dealer. Kia really has some good looking cars these days but I’m still going to stick with Toyota, Lexus, Honda, or Acura.
So true. A friend had a Sonata that after only 2 years and a mere 11000 miles, engine went dead. Engine was replaced, 6000 miles later, engine started ticking, engine went bad, she got rid of it. Bought a Honda Accord. She said was worth the price.
former kia tech, nothing but engine swaps all day
I've had 2 Kias and both have been great. 1st one was a 07 Rio 5 it still runs great with over 240k miles and is a daily running car. My 2nd 2014 kia soul plus with only 48k miles but no mechanical problems and no oil burner. I do my own maintenance and use quality oil and filters. My son in-law worked where they make oil filters and gave me the inside scoop.
I still have a 2010 KIA Soul with over 400,00 miles and going strong
Get an intake cleaning on your Soul, my 2017 Sportage started using oil at 50k miles, by 68k it was .5 qt in 300 miles, then I learned about the intake and combustion chamber cleaning. I used full synthetics with a kia filter every 5 months, no matter what mileage per my warranty. Due to GDI and PCV, carbon build up will cause the oil useage.
@@lonniebeal6032 I always use synthetic oil.
@@HOOTERSMAN94 I gotta see that. Every Kia since they came out has been junk that I've seen.
same here , kia rio 270k km the oil doesn't even drop, no leaks, no oil burning, I also have a kia sorento diesel 240k km no leaks or smoking.
Best car i ever owned was a 2007 Kia Sportage, 4cyl 2wd. Went over 300K before I retired it. Parts were average priced, went great through the snow, no rust considering being a PA car. Only negative was it seemed to go through tires quicker than other cars ive owned.
Came out before the Theta 2 engine that Hyundai and Kia share.
Kias are overpriced garbage, you have to be really dumb to buy one.
Did you do wheel alignment?
@@numanumaair lmao what. KIA is cheaper than competitors with the same amount of tech.
same, i had a 2006 sportage that i loved until it got totaled
I had a 2016 Kia, lots of little things went wrong with it. At 60k I took the lo$$ and I listen to Scotty Kilmer and got me a 18 Rav4 , never been happier.
I worked at a Kia dealership for a while and, since I had a friend who had had a bad experience with one, I went straight to the service department and asked customers what they thought about their cars. They all seemed to like them, some liked them very much.
Most people don't know what is good and bad until it kills them
Some people don't care and/or don't pay attention to their vehicles until they "break". When that happens they are mystified and ripe for the picking by some dishonest dealership/garage or mechanic. This particular idea makes paying much more for a Toyota "reasonable".
Most people settle for mediocrity in life as they haven't experienced Lexus ownership.
@@DEVILTAZ35 its all relative. Compared to a Mercedes, or BMW, a Lexus is mediocre.
@@DEVILTAZ35 I've owned strictly Kias since 2006 and not one of them ever needed any repairs done.
Just because you have a lemon in one car don't mean they're all the same I've had three Kias and I've never had one issue with any of them at all Kia's are great vehicles
I had a 2015 and put 110k on it with no problems except a bad gas cap after 59k. I kept the oil changed regularly and mostly drove highway miles. I sold it and bought a Toyota after hearing about all the bad engines out there. Lucky I guess.
@Quick Thinking I had the same experience as chazmaz zing. I bought a 2015 Soul with 98,000 miles and have driven it to 151,000 miles with no problems except the gas cap. I keep it tuned up with fresh oil every 3,000 miles.
Maybe I’m doing something wrong in speaking on behalf of my personal experience?
I guess I'm one of the lucky ones as I have one of the first year souls...2010....with 160,000 miles, it burns no oil between changes. Have not had any issues. Keep it up Scotty!
Rich Canfield If I remember correctly, the 2010/2011 Souls for both the 1.6l and 2.0l, were Mitsubishi engines. 2012-onward are Hyundai/Kia built engines.
@@SteelFangedWolf dude that’s false, because people were also trying to say they got their engines from other Japanese manufacturers, but mechanics quickly disproved that.
@@HD_Kerino Hyundai/Kia used to have an alliance with Mitsubishi and Chrysler for engine production. That is why many of the early Kia/Hyundai's would keep running even when the entire rest of the car was falling apart (the Kia/Hyundai content) but eventually the alliance was ended after 2009. So that's probably what itsfunnycanihaz is referring to. Taken from GEMA's site, here is a list of vehicles that have used its engines:
* Chrysler Sebring
* Chrysler Sebring Conv.
* Dodge Avenger
* Dodge Caliber
* Dodge Journey
* Jeep Compass
* Jeep Patriot
* Mitsubishi Outlander
* Mitsubishi Lancer
* Mitsubishi Lancer Evo
* Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback
* Mitsubishi Galant
* Mitsubishi Delica (Japan)
* Peugeot 4007
* Citroen C-Crosser
* Hyundai Sonata
* Hyundai Azera (Korea)
* Hyundai Genesis Coupe
* Hyundai Santa Fe
* Hyundai Spectra
* Hyundai Starex (Korea)
* Kia Optima
* Kia Sportage
* Kia Sorento
@@JA-rn5qv that’s also another lie, it was only for production and the swapping of trucks, and small cars but didn’t go so well when Kia went bankrupt. It’s just another lie that people spread to put down the Koreans, plus the old Sportage had a terribly unreliable engine.
I have the same model of KIA soul as yours (2010 KIA soul) I have no issues with it. I have owned it for eight years and it's still running perfectly. And as a matter of fact, my KIA soul made me fell in love with KIA.
Around 60,000 miles I noticed my 5.0 F150 consumed about a qt of oil every 5,000 miles. So I started checking it every 1,000 miles and found that there was zero oil consumption all the way up to 4,000 miles. Now I change it between 3,000-4,000 miles without any consumption. I used full synthetic btw.
Interesting!
I would imagine that everyone has the expectation that the engine in their new auto would last at least 100,000 miles without burning oil. But that's just me. I suppose the engines lifetime is like the transmission, lifetime being the powertrain warranty period.
"lifetime"... until it blows up!
2004 crown vic 4.6 v8 with 174,000 miles, burns 1 quart when I get to about 4000 miles. Then I change the oil.
It's the GDI that causes the burning oil.
previous video: this Kia is the best car to buy
todays video: why Kias are crap
@@gutadin5 never said Kia r the best car to buy tho
I have 2016 Kia Forte, 275,000, mostly highway, miles (75% thereabouts). 1.8L non GDI engine. Never has any issues with it beyond normal wear and tear items: brakes, tires, a couple suspension components. Engine doesn't use a single drop of oil between the recommended 7,500 change intervals. I have always used 100% synthetic oil. Looks as good as the day I bought it and and is a great car. Comfortable and fast enough for me. Maybe I was lucky I suppose, but I would buy another.
So u put 275k miles in 6 years? Nice lie.
@@slowgoat6089 Yes I did actually. I deliver medical supplies to people released from hospital in upstate NY. I go anywhere from Albany to Buffalo, Massena to Binghamton. I deliver from Syracuse and I typically deliver 5 days a week, sometimes Saturday too.
I own 2 Kia Souls
2021 Automatic for my wife and 2018 manual 6 speed for my business, I transport trucks and RV'S and never have any kind of problems with them, best warranty out there right now.
Scott's energy is everything.
Since joining this channel, I'm learning alot
Scotty is the living definition of the word "unique."
There was only one good car ever made, 1994 Celica GT
@@MoobsAlwaysFumbles Absolutely!
Just follow his advice & you'll never go wrong.
what are you learning ? To write letters that form (a word) in correct sequence. Like alot ? Good luck.
2013 KIA Optima owner. I am on engine #2 after replacing #1 at 130K due to burning a quart every 400-miles. Replaced under warranty. Was told I have lifetime warranty on engine #2. Had to perform the "oli test" twice (dealer performs oil change, seals dip stick, return to dealer after 1000-miles to witness oil level is below 1 quart). PIA to do, but at least they honored the warranty. Shoulda bought a Toyota.
Or honda
Yeah unless it's a Honda or Toyota engine that also burns oil
Think about it
What scout that 2.4 liter engine they had that failed due to burning oil
@@fil1329 that is why they're still popular in used car market LOL
@@fil1329 the turbo is the only Honda that has issues
Bought a brand new Kia Soul 2010 i grew to love it after owning a hyundai getz for 8 years. Travelled across Australia and still to this day i have never had an issue with it besides a fan relay switch. Heap of leg room and suits our family well. There are quite a few around and owners seem really happy with its fuel economy and reliability.
I had a 08 Sorento that I bought brand new I definitely agree with the warranty work that they don’t really want to back from the dealership. On mine the roof rack was assembled wrong and the rear bar was put in front of the rear stop. It probably wouldn’t have been a problem except the only way to remove the stops and move the bar behind it was to remove the whole roof rack. The screw for the stop was at the bottom of the bar. The dealership was pissed when I demanded they fix it so I could actually separate the bars farther than 10 inches. They told me you realize that’s a big job…..well yeah I do but you sold me a defective product so fix it. They were so mad they had to remove the window and headliner just to remove two screws it took them 3 weeks to get it done. At first they didn’t want to give me a rental car either so I had to call Kia and complain lol. They told me if I needed anymore warranty work to go to another dealer. Never bought another car from them again.
"They told me if I needed anymore warranty work to go to another dealer."....absolutely amazing dude, and totally believable! I worked for a Chrysler dealer in OKC back in the 90's. You speak truth! Nothing made the dealer and shop manager angier than warranty work. The biggest problem in their case was getting reimbursed by the manufacturer for the labor, parts and not making a profit while doing it...that's why they hated it! Their mechanics didn't work for free and parts obviously cost money. Then there's the fact that a ZERO profit "warranty work" car was now taking up both time and space in the repair bay. I read somewhere that dealers and manufacturers are basically at war, until a customer shows up...then it's both of them against you! (it's very true!)
get yourself a toyota.
@@edcox1630 Exactly. I worked at a dealership years ago in warranty and you sir hit the jackpot. Seen it many times.
My 2014 Soul uses about a quart every 1000 miles or so. However, when I did a cross country road trip of about 1,200 miles, it didn't use a single drop. I had brought oil with me, expecting to have to top it up at least once, but it was still exactly on the full mark when I arrived.
I'm still not sure why this would be - I guess it only consumes oil around town and not on the highway for some reason.
Hot engine, pistons and piston rings expand increasing the seal.
@@d.f.9064 Oh yeah, that makes sense
My guess is that it doesn't burn the oil until the oil gets broken down. In other words, it might not burn any oil for the first 3 or 4 thousand miles, but after that, as the oil breaks down (loses viscosity) it begins to burn. I've read several comments that point to this. It kinda makes sense, but obviously the design is flawed. Change the oil every 3k, and it might do very well.
@@Curt100 No it can't be that, it burns oil at a steady pace, no matter how recently the oil was changed (and I already do 3k oil changes, always have).
I think the other commenter was right - it probably only burns oil only during the heating up phase, so it burns more over several short trips that on a long journey.
Nah, that’s just a lemon.
I have a 2013 that’s only had a battery and the blower motor replaced and it’s got 230,000+. It’s my daily driver.
Bought a 2019 Jeep renegade with just shy of 40k certified used-(like that actually means anything 🙄)-needed a whole new tranny less than a month after we took ownership. Spend the whole summer going back and forth with dealerships to get it fixed and the guys there had not even a hairsbreadth of a clue about their own make vehicle. Tried to tell me there was an oil cartridge. 🤦♀️
I stared at the technicians in shock. You cannot be serious. I walked in looking like a mark-a mom with two small kids in tow-but the thing is, I work on all my cars. And I mean work on them. Not just oil Change and tires. I mean cmon I have a dodge Dakota-I need to be half mechanic to go anywhere with that sucker lol
I've had 4 KIAs. All ran like tops. I have heard of a lemon, though. A wiring issue.
Ok paid troll
@@adl6907 Uh, you sound like the troll actually...
I have had the same experience. Owned my optima for 11yrs.
Daily driver and I put on 500km a week back and forth to work.
Reg maintenance is key, and I don’t bag the engine, I drive normaly.
Best car I have ever had out of the 50+ over 60yrs.
Well Maybey my 2009 Dakota was better. Loved that truck.
Cheers
Same, 4th kia and never had problems.
I'd assume most of you purchased new, and possibly trade often as well. The horror story for many, not just Kia/Hyundai in my opinion comes in the used market where people buy vehicles where the oil was changed well past the due date. I know people who try to play the 15,000-20k oil change tricks because they think they are saving the world. The 2nd owner is going to have a bad engine for sure.
I have a 2019 Kia Soul with the naturally-aspirated engine. I have over 60,000 miles on my car and have never had any problem with it burning oil. I suppose that was a defective engine, or model year. Kia has had several recalls on their engines and has replaced over half a million of them. I do agree with you about getting the service contracts in writing. I enjoy your UA-cam channel. This is my second Kia and I have had good luck with both of them.
It's only 2 years old. Let's see how it is at 10
2007 Kia Spectra just went down a few months ago. It has over 291 thousand miles on it. My 2008 Kia Rio still running great at 172 thousand. Strongly considering buying another one.
What are your oil change intervals?
@@irongoose3865 I have 2008 5 speed Rio with 148k miles and I do my oil changes every 3-4K miles
@@matthewkirkland6497 That's why you've been able to put so many miles on it. Good job 👍
Yes, know the story. My sister had a 2014 KIA Forte and the same thing happened. It burned so much oil that it damaged the catalytic converter. They held the car for three months and decided that they would not change the engine. They did give her a great buy-back price toward a new one. It was cheaper to go that route than to rent a car. She is going to be smart this time and sell the car before it starts burning oil and get something else. All the car dealers stick you up in the service department. This is why I am still learning how to fix my own car!
Our 2014 forte is going strong
Just like your sister is going to "stick up" the next guy.
Hyundai / Kia do not honor their warranties....
They Not Worth buying due to this.
Toyota or Honda is the way to go! We have a 2016 KIA Soul with a 'Bad' catalytic converter -
KIA refuses to cover it. My 'solution' is to never buy another KIA. We have had this car since new and have taken very good care of it at the KIA dealer. The initial low price is not worth it in the long term.
It's a sad world we live in when "being smart" is dumping your trash on an unsuspecting buyer.
@@geronimo67 I hope they fix the car before some poor person gets it. I would hate to know that someone else has a bad vehicle.
My neighbor commutes ti the city in his 2012 Kia Optima. The engine blew at 125K miles in 2019 and Kia gave him another engine. It's 3 years later and he drives 100 miles a day. New, used motor, it's still going and hasn't cost him anything in 3 years.
@@MikeJones-pp7gu I just watched a UA-cam video on a 2016 Toyota Tacoma having its transmissiin changed because coolant leaked into the transmission and grenaded it. Any make has the potential to have major issues.
@@MikeJones-pp7gu Kias are garbage on wheels I remember when they came out and everyone who bought one needed an engine and when you go to the junkyard today the only new cars you see there are kias and Fords. You can buy a 10 year old Kia for the price of a 1990s Toyota for a reason...
@@MikeJones-pp7gu 5 years is a joke I drive a 1988 Plymouth I'd love to see even a 1998 kia still running but you won't because they are all scrap...
As somebody who is more fond of old cars from the 1980s-2000s, I might just get a kia soul someday. It's one of the few suvs/crossovers and modern cars that I can get behind owning. It's pretty much what would happen if a Scion xb and a suv wore the potara earrings from DBZ and fused together to create one very square crossover.
My thoughts exactly. The later gens seem to have more issues. I did driving school with a company that exclusively uses Souls, drives them forever, and the owner told me that 1st gen is great but after that there are some sketchy years. They all get a bad rep because of it. I have a 2010 that I just bought and am getting to know. Replacing things and listening to things. Inspection by a journeyman went great but I suspect he didn’t look as close as I’d like and so I’m trying to learn as much as I can to service this lil thing and hope it gives me some fun years. Great little car to drive. The electric ones are really fun to drive! But I’m not ready wallet wise or practicality wise to go electric as there aren’t a ton of charging stations yet where I am. Anyway. I pray for my little Soul and its eternal life 🙏😂
Future Scotty: "I don't know why Kia doesn't send me their cars to review." 😂
We all know the deal with car reviewers. They generally cannot say anything bad about the car without risking getting black-balled by the manufacturer. Luckily, Scotty gets his cars from viewers so he can circumvent that whole biased system and tell us the truth!!
My 2012 Optima has 93k miles. I have taken it for all the engine recalls and change the oil once a year (put on less than 5k miles a year). After all the Kia disaster stories I have been waiting for it to go south but it has been a good car for the most part. It never burns oil, none at all. This week I had to replace the brake pedal switch, but that was easy to replace and only cost $15. It is a fun car to drive, my wife hates driving our new VW Jetta she only wants to drive the Kia.
2011 Kia Forte Sedan. Nothing but preventative maintenance. Over 220,000 miles and starts up and drives like the day I bought it.
To be fair and honest, my wifes 2013 RAV4 burnt about 1qt from 6-7K mile oil changes. By the time we hit 60K miles, it oddly stopped burning oil. It has 124k on it now and it is running perfectly.
It just needed time to break in :).
@@MikeJones-pp7gu kia's
Gf's sportage engine blew up at 50k.
I hate when people say "the new ones are actually nice now"- um no, they just haven't been on the road long enough.
She has a Rav 4 now, much happier.
Hyundai / Kia do not honor their warranties....
They Not Worth buying due to this.
Toyota or Honda is the way to go! We have a 2016 KIA Soul with a 'Bad' catalytic converter -
KIA refuses to cover it. My 'solution' is to never buy another KIA. We have had this car since new and have taken very good care of it at the KIA dealer. The initial low price is not worth it in the long term.
2019 Kia Forte Ex Launch Edition with 135k miles with no issues and still going strong.
Stupid to go 6k or 7k between oil changes. I don't care what "the manufacturer" says.
Go 3k on conventional oil, and 4k to 5k with synthetic oil.
I blew up a kia in 4 years 80k miles and the dealer fought me about replacing the engine. They tried to say the new spark plugs i got installed melted into the engine. Anyways I only ended up paying $400 for fluids afterall, it still had the same problem of saying engine was getting hot. Ended up trading it in for a Toyota.
You guys , look at Honda too...lol I love Honda, we have 2 5 spd hondas with over 200k one has just over 200k, one has 231k that run like new
They are good now with their new engines. No complaints
@@bradleyscarreviews lmao..... This one in the vid is basically new....
@@richsweeney1115 it’s new, but has the old engine.
@@bradleyscarreviews No, there is a video I found from S.Korea where a 2022 Optima with a 2.5L was in for oil consumption at 9,000 kilometers. Kia/Hyundai has not fixed the problems with GDI.
I have a 2016 Kia Optima, I bought it basically brand new, extremely low milage, 1 owner, and it was a freight car. Also got a really good deal on it. It's about 50K miles right now and it still runs amazing and I do normal maintenance on it.
Guess I got lucky and got one of those better built Kia's.
2016 is still practically a new car though if it's looked after :)
Don’t tell this big mouth anything - go to the Car Care Nut for reliable info
You aren't lucky.....Korean cars have come a long way
Scotty just needs to get checked for excessive carbon monoxide poisoning in his brain.....
It was the old cars that did him in with carburetors I think.....vary volatile fumes from gasoline venting out the carburetors back then
Kias are great cars.
@@davidmuir405 yes they have come a long way
It's not Kia, it's the fact it was made in the US. The South Korean models are fine.
I just replaced a 2014 Kia Rio 1.6L engine for a friend. The old engine has evidence that it was not maintained. There was sludge all inside the engine. Oil was NOT changed at the normal intervals. He said the car was running terrible and there was a knock. Mind you the engine gave up the ghost at 153,000 miles. I told him given the neglect this engine received was amazing the engine lasted that long. He says the replacement engine is running great. I placed 3.8 quarts of 5w20 synthetic oil and new filter in it. He went ahead and full in unknowing to me with an extra 1.2 quart of unknown weight of Lucas oil. I then told him when the engine breaks take it to someone else. SMH
I'm hoping to get mine replaced. I'm experiencing detonation/lspi in my '13 rio sx even though I'm not burning oil and I have 178k km
@@arditsadiku8474 Did you pull any error codes from the car via OBD2?
"Get it in writing" That's the best advice you've ever given, Scotty.
@@MikeJones-pp7gu Enjoy your Kia then
My Niro FE has 421,000 miles. Engine just started a minor coolant leak (1/4 cup every 200 miles) that’s not visible and the heater quit last week. Suspect the heat exchanger is leaking into the exhaust. Other than that, it’s been awesome. Still performs well. Love it 👍.
Wow! Are you on the original battery? Still getting good mpg?
Are you a hotshot driver? Niro came out in 2017, and you're already at 421K?
@@lightsfansofthewest481 I bought the car new in June, 2018 as a 2017 leftover. I average 80-100k+ miles per year escorting Oversized Loads in Florida and occasionally Georgia. As an Escort driver, we are not required to have a CDL and not restricted by law on drive time’s like the Semi drivers. I’ve done as much as 16,800 miles in 30 days…yeah, it sux. Escort a load 600 miles and immediately turn around and drive another 600 back to grab another load for the next day. That’s the extreme days but can also go as little as 100 miles for the day. It’s feast or famine with this gig.
The best part of this video is the smashed up black truck in the back with the floormat covering the widow and the rock on top to hold it in place. That's some high tech stuff right there.
We bought a 2021 Kia Soul X-Line for the wife. Yeah I know... but hey she liked the way they look and our two adult daughters own Kia's and have had excellent reliability. Anyway, NO REGRETS. It now has about 18,000 miles. I've changed the oil every 5,000 miles (at the dealer) and the indicator line on the oil dipstick has *never* budged off of full so far.
any experience with the Kia Rio? Plan on getting a 2020 or similar year hopefully. Thanks.
At 73,000 miles my 2013 Kia Soul, 1.6 ltr motor, burned 1.5 quarts every thousand miles. The dealer sealed the dipstick for 1,000 miles. Oil burn confirmed. They did another thousand-confirmed. KIA replaced the motor and gave me a hybrid loaner. It took them 2 weeks. All and all, I was satisfied. There is a lawsuit going on related to this issue
So you’re saying that Scotty Kilmer is right?
8 months later: Here’s why Kia is the best affordable car
Honestly? Toyota, Honda, Mazda. That’s it.
My Mazda is 10 years old, still runs like a top.
Lexus, Acura, Scion too.
@@NicofTime...Lexus and Scion are apart of Toyota. Acura is apart of Honda.
Yep! Only vehicles that should be allowed to be on the road! EVERYTHING else is absolute crap
@@NicofTime...those are side brands of Toyota and Honda so yes
Had the power steering warning light illuminate on my 2019 RX350 with less than 5K miles on it . 2nd time it came on I called the dealer who said it wasn’t safe to drive so I should flatbed it to them - at my cost. After a few choice unverbalized thoughts, I drove it the 12 miles to them. They said there was no problem and oh by the way, we will do you a favor and won’t charge you for the inspection…on a new car - unsafe to drive…a few months later, the PS warning came back…traded it in for a Honda. RX350 was a $60K piece of crap just like the dealer.
How's the Honda treating you? Thinking of trading in my 2015 sonata.
@@Mo-wq1oq LOVE IT! it’s our 3rd CRV and 4th Honda. Got the Touring Hybrid. Getting 35mpg+ in the city- and those are very short trips. Handles better than the RX ever did and I think the electronics are better designed - at least compared to the ‘19 RX. Safety features seem to work better, too.
Your issue sounds more with the dealership than the vehicle. A Power steering light, especially if a mechanic says nothing is actually wrong with the Power Steering, isn't a big deal. Just get a OBD tool and reset the code yourself.
You could have captured the image and then send to corporate. Lexus has the best customer service. They do not tolerate that behavior from a dealer. They could close down that dealer if it's their typical behavior.
You will never find an honest dealer. Its a myth that an honest dealer exist - like a unicorn.
I have a 2016 Kia Soul and a 2021 Kia Soul and neither one has burned a drop of oil. We love both of them.
In doing research on the KIA Soul, I have spoken with 6-8 KIA Soul owners over the past year - and they all LOVED their Soul. No major problems, routine maintenance.
Souls have excellent ground clearance, comfortable seats, lots of headroom (even for very tall people), good fuel economy, lots of room front and back - and when you lower the back seats, they have LOTS of cargo space. For $22k for the base LX model, it's worth a look.
My niece has a Hyundai Kona. Needed an engine at less than 10,000 miles. They did replace it without much fuss in NY.
I'm nearing 150k on my Soul and have been lucky to avoid any major issues. I'll be looking out for burning oil from now on though
I got 2013. Soul with 172.000 miles I recommend you use syntatic oil. ✌
Call the Soul crap if you want Scotty but my 2021 model has been very reliable and economical. I like the car and with mileage average of 38 mpg highway and 35 around town I will hang on to it for a while. No oil burning issues and I have the oil and filter changed every 5,000 miles. Has been very reliable. I do check the oil everything I fuel up. The car has never burned more then 1/2 a quart, and that was during the first oil change cycle of 7,500 miles. Then went to 5,000 mile changes. The voice of reason was speaking loudly. Say what you want.
I'd change that oil every 3000 miles.
Many companies are making junk because they only care about making $ in the short term. Long-term quality and name recognition don’t factor into their spreadsheets. I’m not buying anything but a Toyota or Honda ever again. My wife’s 2015 Hyundai Genesis Ultimate manual is teaching me a lesson. Sad part is she loves, loves that dam car. So until I can talk her into a Lexus, I’m stuck maintaining the thing, and it’s only got 54k on the clock.
Totally agree on all points! The only valid reason to buy something that's not Honda or Toyota, is if you must buy a truck, cargo van, or want to go EV.
@@livejay9062 one more reason; if you're too sick of boring cars.
@@soidus well yeah....fun is always good!
I own a 2018 Kia soul and had it since 2018 till current and I've never once experienced this issue.
I have a 2019 and my oil light is on every 3 months. Insane! I do have 63k miles on it though.
I had a 2016 kia soul, put only 700 more miles on it and bam, had to trade it in
@@jcbuk2us how come?
Absolutely no idea, didn't show any problems before. All of a sudden, the oil light came on and flickered randomly. Took it in and the engine was about to quit. Shame since I liked the car.
The engine finally blew up in my Kia Soul 1.6 Dealing with Kia was a joke, I’m in the process of replacing it myself now.
My 2015 Soul just went into Limp Home Mode today. Called the and left a voicemail at the dealership for the service manager. I’m hoping to hear from the dealership service department tomorrow. After seeing all the videos of people having issues getting replacement engines from Kia I think I’m being overly optimistic. I wish you luck with your engine replacement!!
put a LS engine in it.
I'm glad I found this video. My 2014 Kia started burning a half quart each 1000 miles sometime after reaching 85000 miles. They've been good about most factory recalls, but there seems to have been so many since I've owned this vehicle. They didn't have a fix for the cold engine start code. And they didn't offer any immobilizers even with all the theft going on in the Midwest.
My wife's old 2014 Kia also burns oil at the same rate. Seems like it's normal lol!
You are a 🤡!
Kias are one of the most reliable cars on earth.
I bought my Kia sportage with 19k miles on it as the second owner. It was the nicest car I had ever owned. I done oil changes every 5k. Around 110k miles it started using 1qt per 1k miles. I replaced pvc and paid a mechanic to do a tune up. At 135k miles on my way to work the engine failed. Kia told me I was eligable for a engine but because I had not done the recalls I couldnt get the engine. However as the second owner I never received recall notices.
i was a mechanic for 32 years and i will tell you that dealerships and dealer mechanics hate warranty work and will avoid doing it if they can
A. there is no money in it for the shop and
B. the mechanic gets paid less for the job
so they will try to blow you right out the door until they can't anymore.
i once had a new 87 pontiac Grand prix that had a ball joint go bad and i had gotten a bumper to bumper warranty. three years in the power antenna died and it had a bad ball joint. they kept telling me the ball joint was good. they did not replace it until i threatened to drive the car right through their showroom.
they gave me nothing but grief but i made sure i got my money back out of the price for that warranty
LMAO
@@MikeJones-pp7gu KIa is garbage my dad almost died in a car accident with a kia it folded up like a soda can
@@MikeJones-pp7gu Problems started with Theta II GDI motors. I know guys with over 150k on a 2011 and 2013 and zero problems. My 2014 Optima started knocking at start up after sitting a couple of days, Kia put in 10w30 and said they found no problem. I traded it for a Tucson turbo 1.6L. My wifes 2017 Sportage started burning oil a t 50k, I put in 10w30 and reduced it, but left their 5w20 in for winter and at 68k it was using .5 qt in 300 miles. I then learned of the intake and combustion chamber cleaning, got it done, traded it off for a 2017 RDX.
The official pizza delivery vehicle of the USA.
My Kia Sedonas have had a few problems, but mostly they keep going. But they are much better than Dodge Caravans I had! No more Caravans ever!
My daughter wrecked my 03 Kia Spectra at 175,000 miles and it only used a half quart of oil by the 5000 mile oil change. It WAS a great car!
Seems to be hit and miss on these
I love my 2014 Kia Sportage I have 140,000 miles on it, And still kicking like a chicken
I have a 09 Kia Sportage got it at 142,000 miles couple months ago I’m at 149,200 now
That’s great! My 2021 Sportage was stuttering at 14,000 miles then the audio screen started going black randomly. Dealer said they couldn’t find anything wrong. Traded it in for a RAV4 and managed to get 25,000 trade for my Kia thankfully
@@sveronih5376 That sucks I still love the heck out of my Kia though I think certain years are built better than other years
Upside: half of quart every 1000 mile means never needs oil change
In my limited ownership experience with a couple Kia vehicles they get a B. Had an 09 Optima LX with the 4cyl for 150k miles. Reliable car, comfortable enough, simple maintenance, but had weak interior door handles though. A 2010 Kia Soul+ with the 2.0l 4cyl. Easy to work on, affordable parts, but feels like a cheap car probably because it is, and has an interference engine with a timing belt. 2016 Sorento SX AWD with the 3.3l V6. Many issues with all the electronic gizmos at
If you had Hondas , you'd be happier. My wife has an orange 09 Honda fit 5 sport , rides a little rough bc it's small. But it doesn't really feel cheap. Nothing has broken, it has 200k , and it's barely needed anything but maintenance,. My 5 spd accord has 231k and has barely needed anything besides maintenance, both still have the original clutch. They both just needed minor suspension work recently, like tie rod ends, and stabilizer links, but not till like 180k , and our roads suck, and they're both older cars and had the original suspension
Have to wonder Scotty, WHY you LOVE dissing Hyundai and kia. You laugh, and clearly ENJOY ripping these cars apart. It's well known that if you don't follow the recommended break in procedure, it can cause an engine to consume excessive oil. Ive seen this on multiple manufacturers.
@@richsweeney1115 I disagree
I had an accent that I drive to the scrap yard the other week with 415 000 kms on it
Everything still worked
It has a 110 horse 1.6 that's dam reliable and great on fuel
The kia souls beta 2 2 liter also good especially mated to a 5 speed gearbox
@@johnfranklin5277 very true......but scotty doesn't seem to know much about metallurgy and component failure orienting analysis either
@@fil1329 here I disagree u I had a close experience with a Hyundai vehicle which was purchased brand new and later had electronic problems which short all the electric supplied motors also we have the oil leaking /burning issues here too
Our Soul (2.0 engine) made it ~80k before it began burning oil. Now right at 100k and it absolutely devours oil. Oil Pressure light flickers regularly at idle due to low pressure (using 10w-30 to keep it somewhat at bay). This is all with religious 5k mile synthetic OCIs with Kia or NAPA filters (and 3750-mile OCIs since oil consumption began).
I expect the engine isnt long for the world now. Had the SC200 recall applied around 90k after the knock sensor began to occasionally fire….hope they’ll replace my engine but not banking on it.
Edit: PS- my ‘03 V8 4Runner burns a half a quart every 5000 miles, with nothing but 7,500 mile OCIs it’s whole life- 201k and counting. Still stuns me how clear it stays on the dipstick.
What year? Is it a turbo?
@@godsidekurt 2014 non-turbo. Better than a family member's ~05 Mini Cooper. That uses even more oil!
Kias are cheap, fun, smooth, packed with features.
Nowadays, all cars cost $25k and above. I’m a Toyota guy but disgusted with markups that I’ll look elsewhere
My KIA has 130,000 and it doesn’t use more than 1/2 quart in 5,000 miles. I use Mobile 1.
Glad to hear that. Gives me some hope.
Take your Kia to Scotty, and he will make another video telling Kias can be good vehicles like he did in the past with a Forte! He likes to mint money from UA-cam Algorithm and keep making videos and speaking loud!
It shouldn't at all!!!!!
@Ken what year and model is your Kia?
My Sportage doesn't use a drop of Oil between 5 Thousand mile Oil changes with Synthetic Oil
We love you Scotty but we have 4 KIA vans. All four have over 200,000 miles on them. There have been no engine issues (all four have 6 cylinders) we love them. One is over 300k. All four are in our service department. The technicians do not even want a new replacement.
So your a Kia dealer?
@@rob5944 Not hardly. We are a blueprint company
@@allencampbell8322 I see, well it seems as if the six cylinder engines are better. Here in the UK it's mostly fours and turbo triples. Our little 108 returns 55mpg combined. It's a Toyota engine and box, naturally aspirated, but has had a new water pump at 42k and it sounds like the clutch bearing is getting noisy. Still I guess you can't have the penny and the bun!
Two things Scotty is not aware of, it's the Theta II motors only, 2.0, 2.0T, 2.4 and probably new 2.5L. All their GDI motors will need an intake cleaning at 15k, a combustion chamber cleaning at 50k miles due to PCV and GDI. The v6s and 1.6L motors are fine. But the biggest problem is dealers not supporting their warranty, that goes for any make.
What years? I have a 2021 Sedona and the internet has me so scared I want to just go trade it in! 30k miles no problems so far
The trade off is that the engines have good warranties. I'm driving around a 2015 Kia soul and it's burning oil because the pistons are wearing out but the mechanic at the dealer says they'll replace the engine free of charge when the engine fails. Usually the engine is still covered under warranty even if you buy it used, which I did.
I had a 2017 sonata bought it brand new and it didn’t have any issues what so ever the first three years but then it started acting strange at around 40,000 miles traded it for. 2021 GMC Terrain started having transmission issues only after a few thousand miles. I’m about to switch back to Honda Accord and will remain there forever. No car is infallible but a busted transmission at 2-3 thousand miles is crazy
I have a Kia Soul 2014 manual 6 speed 144k miles. Best cars I’ve owned. I’m running this Kia past 250k+ for sure. It’s a very reliable car.
A lot of people don't take care of their cars
Theta II motors are the problem. From roughly 2013 to 2018. Just run full synthetics, get a valve intake cleaning every 15k miles or so, combustion chamber at around 50k miles and it will keep things clean. I only learned about those 2 months ago. They don't have to take anything apart, both cleanings together ran $650 at Kia. If you have a Kia in those years, make sure you have the knock sensor update, you will have a lifetime warranty on the engine with proof of oil changes. And only use Kia/Hyundai filters, they are made very well.
Number 1 rule of owning a car, never take it to the dealer for any reason
My 2017 Kia Sorento has had no issues. 84,000 miles and runs great.