TelaAmmo 7.62 x 39mm Accuracy (Precision) Test

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  • Опубліковано 2 лис 2024

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  • @intrusive_thoughts.
    @intrusive_thoughts. Рік тому +24

    Thanks for putting this together. This is the same stuff KUSA was selling under their brand name. On my testing at 5200 feet altitude at 95°F I was getting velocities consistent with yours (2317~2447 FPS) and the accuracy was just as lousy out of a 16" Arsenal. It was 100% reliable and it's good long-term storage ammo. Decent "minute of man" accuracy. Keep up the great content.

    • @Feldmutze
      @Feldmutze  Рік тому +4

      Thanks for watching and for mentioning your experience with it too. Cool to hear you got pretty similar results, though also a shame the ammo doesn't do better.

    • @couchwarrior2449
      @couchwarrior2449 4 місяці тому +1

      Minute of man is good enough. Minute of angle.
      And AK shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence.

  • @SigmaSheepdog
    @SigmaSheepdog Рік тому +7

    Great video! I'm glad that I came across this vid because I was giving serious consideration to purchasing two or three cases of the TelaAmmo.

    • @cheech9283
      @cheech9283 8 місяців тому

      Did you end up buying any? I'm curious if it's actually corrosive or not, despite what the box says.

    • @SigmaSheepdog
      @SigmaSheepdog 8 місяців тому +1

      @cheech9283 No, I never did. However, if I do, I will consider it as corrosive ammunition and clean accordingly after my shooting session. I have no issue at all with shooting corrosive ammunition.

  • @williamscott3444
    @williamscott3444 9 місяців тому +3

    Interesting test. Ive been considering purchasing some of this ammo. Ive still got some Silver Bear in my stash & its been very accurate. I enjoyed your test video and also like the style camo you're wearing in the testing. Thanks for taking the time to make your informative video.

    • @Feldmutze
      @Feldmutze  9 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for the comment and for watching, I'm glad you liked the video!

  • @rabidkitten01
    @rabidkitten01 Рік тому +4

    Thanks for putting this together. I kept looking for reviews on it and couldn't find any so I bought a case a month or 2 ago. Oh well I guess I'll just have to blast through it.

    • @Feldmutze
      @Feldmutze  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for watching! On the plus side, at least the ammo is reliable, so it'll work for closer-range practice at least.

    • @rabidkitten01
      @rabidkitten01 Рік тому +2

      @@Feldmutze so I cruised through reddit and someone said the first batches in March had QC issues and later made stuff has been solid. Not sure if that applies here.

    • @Feldmutze
      @Feldmutze  Рік тому +2

      Good to know. I'm biased as I only have a small sample size of the ammo I tried, but if others are reporting QC issues then there's probably some out there. Hopefully the newer TelaAmmo actually has fixed the QC problems you mentioned now.

    • @bluedownC
      @bluedownC Рік тому

      ​@rabidkitten01 what kind of QC issues did they have? I bought 500rds from Atlantic Firearms around August.

    • @rabidkitten01
      @rabidkitten01 10 місяців тому +1

      @@bluedownC sorry for the delay. But mostly just being quite inaccurate with a large fps spread.

  • @lajuanleslie2565
    @lajuanleslie2565 10 місяців тому +6

    I appreciate you for going into good details

  • @arl0xen551
    @arl0xen551 9 місяців тому +2

    Very nicely put together. Thank you.

  • @chrissimmonds4898
    @chrissimmonds4898 7 місяців тому +1

    Going to buy some. Some good information to know here before my purchase 🤙🏼

  • @Gunnypauly73
    @Gunnypauly73 8 місяців тому +5

    Yeah, I think I'll pass on this stuff.. My PSA with the FN CHF barrel and Barnaul ammo shoots about a 2 MOA with glass. Only problem, the Barnaul ammo is getting hard to find. I will not buy this stuff. I wouldnt even call it range ammo.
    Thanks for the video, you saved me some $$$$$. Thumbs Up!!

  • @dirtytruck4536
    @dirtytruck4536 8 місяців тому +1

    That's one hell of a set up.

  • @Somename1010
    @Somename1010 9 місяців тому +5

    Buffman range recently did a test to see if this ammo was corrosive and by the test he did it was. have you had any problems with corrosion after this?

    • @Feldmutze
      @Feldmutze  9 місяців тому +4

      I haven't had any problems with corrosion after shooting this ammo and I didn't clean the rifle for several months after doing this video. Thanks for mentioning that test Buffman did, though, as I wasn't aware of it until now and that's really good to know at least as a precaution.

    • @Somename1010
      @Somename1010 9 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the reply. I guess I’m just going to have to get some and do a little testing myself.

    • @R.Tafolla
      @R.Tafolla 9 місяців тому +2

      I’m guessing a few batches might have used corrosive primers accidentally or something.

  • @Christian0132
    @Christian0132 Рік тому +7

    i bought a cases of this when it was still labeled as “kalashnikov usa” (would of bought something else but it was drastically cheaper then any other x39 at the time) but it works, haven’t had any issues definitely a bit dirtier then say wolf but I’ve ran into no issues and seems to be “accurate enough” for range use

    • @Christian0132
      @Christian0132 Рік тому +1

      exact same markings as the the stuff i got

  • @robison87
    @robison87 Місяць тому +1

    I got some of this ammo and with my Zastava m70 i was able to get 2 moa at 100 yards with a 3x primary arms microprism. Using the same ammo on the same day eith my arsenal sam7f-62 i got about 4-5 moa with the same microprism. Different aks definitely like different ammo. I get generally poor accuracy with brass norma. I was happy with this stuff. It definitely had more recoil than the brass norma too.

  • @anthonyburdine2873
    @anthonyburdine2873 Рік тому +1

    Thanks, was wondering about this ammo

  • @McBurnside6380
    @McBurnside6380 6 місяців тому +1

    This is good information. Disappointing because I was hoping to score some ammo at a decent price.

  • @equalopportunityoffender6732
    @equalopportunityoffender6732 Рік тому +4

    Excellent review on the TelAmmo . I made my decision 👎🏻 Thanks for the heads up 👍🏻

  • @biggysground
    @biggysground 11 місяців тому +3

    Totally typical for a stamped receiver AK, you need to find which ammo your rifle likes. However, the Tela will hit a torso @ 100 yards. If your trying for the tightest groups start with a milled receiver AK as they can do as good as 2" @100 yards.

  • @OMWU
    @OMWU 3 місяці тому

    Interesting comment on silver bear. I've had great results with them. I prefer them over brass

  • @flcl48
    @flcl48 Рік тому +2

    Maybe bipod on a non-freefloat handguard? That's a problem with AKs and would explain the larger vertical variances in all groups.

    • @Feldmutze
      @Feldmutze  Рік тому +3

      I could see that normally, but this handguard actually is free floated.

    • @brianpresto1446
      @brianpresto1446 2 місяці тому

      So curious if shooting a non free float AK for accuracy testing what’s the best way to stabilize?

  • @Bostonescapes
    @Bostonescapes 11 місяців тому +4

    That is not "3P" - "ЗП" mark in Russian stands for "Забракованные Патроны" or "Blemished/Rejected Ammo". This is why you are getting bad results with ЗП ammo.

    • @Feldmutze
      @Feldmutze  11 місяців тому +2

      Interesting, I hadn't heard that before. I'll compare some of that ЗП ammo with the other stuff I have some time and I'll see if it's any different.

    • @Bostonescapes
      @Bostonescapes 11 місяців тому +2

      @@Feldmutze the only two other options for "ЗП" could be запасные патроны (reserve ammo) or заводская проверка (factory checked) but I think it is most likely забракованные патроны (blemished ammo).

  • @theoriginalOSOK
    @theoriginalOSOK 7 місяців тому

    If that is Golden Tiger.... I'm getting it bc it's very reasonably priced.... and available... even though I don't really need (need?) more 7.62x39 ammo... did I just type that? lol

  • @PaintedSkyDweller
    @PaintedSkyDweller 11 місяців тому +2

    Excellent advice, I will stay away from telammo , thank you 😊

  • @greenalien8503
    @greenalien8503 9 місяців тому +1

    Is silver bear banned in the US now? Or am i confused? Lol

    • @Feldmutze
      @Feldmutze  9 місяців тому +1

      There's still a lot floating around but all Russian ammo is now banned from import.

  • @derpinator6524
    @derpinator6524 10 місяців тому

    I’ve been having ammo issue where I’m getting light strikes very often now. It’s like the primers are seated too deep. That’s between vympel, some Barnaul, and wolf

    • @Feldmutze
      @Feldmutze  10 місяців тому +1

      If you're having issues with that many different types of ammo, it's more than likely there's an issue with your rifle itself. I'd check your firing pin for obstructions or damage. I had the same issue with this rifle a year or so ago and the firing pin had cracked in half and needed replacing.

  • @abram1994ga
    @abram1994ga Рік тому +1

    So with the video and the comments it seems the ammo itself not just a few bad lots are not consistent. I was thinking of a 545 build since tela told me it should be dropping mid November but if it's 6+ MOA I'll just get a RD nato ak and go 556.

    • @Feldmutze
      @Feldmutze  Рік тому +1

      Unfortunately it's not a good time to get into 5.45 so I think going 5.56 would be a much better option. I'll be testing Tela 5.45 when it comes out, but imo even if it fares better, it'd be a better idea to not have to be reliant on 1 manufacturer for all your ammo in case imports dry up again.

    • @abram1994ga
      @abram1994ga Рік тому +2

      My thought process exactly. Azerbaijan just doesn't seem like a reliable source long term anyway. Tired of riding the import roller coaster of here one day gone the next. If a manufacturer inside the US sourcing its own raw materials in the US I'd be more optimistic for 545. Wishful thinking at this point.

    • @Deathtroll1499
      @Deathtroll1499 9 місяців тому +1

      Well now Atlantic has Tela 5.45 lol

    • @Feldmutze
      @Feldmutze  9 місяців тому

      @@Deathtroll1499 Oh cool. I need to try some of that.

  • @Ahm12363
    @Ahm12363 Рік тому +1

    Is this a mulitarn jacket that you are wearing

    • @Feldmutze
      @Feldmutze  Рік тому

      Yes, it's one of the Kruschiki Multitarn smocks.

  • @gleamtarrest6310
    @gleamtarrest6310 7 місяців тому

    How is it been holding up lately?

    • @Feldmutze
      @Feldmutze  7 місяців тому +1

      Are you referring to the ammo or something else on the rifle? If it's the ammo, I haven't seen any differences from shooting it off-camera and how it fared in this test.

    • @gleamtarrest6310
      @gleamtarrest6310 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Feldmutze ammo

    • @gleamtarrest6310
      @gleamtarrest6310 7 місяців тому

      ​@Feldmutze been hearing that this is corrosive, can you confirm or deny?

    • @Feldmutze
      @Feldmutze  7 місяців тому

      TelaAmmo had some lots that got corrosive primers mixed in. It's not something I ran into myself on the 7.62 x 39 or the 5.45 either, and it does seem like they fixed it on their newest production ammo, but it's definitely something to watch out for.

  • @rdaugherty52
    @rdaugherty52 10 місяців тому +1

    Man what’s the matter with your rifle I bought a PSA bft and using some old 30 year old wolf ammo at 50 yds it would shoot 3 inch and I thought that was bad.

    • @Feldmutze
      @Feldmutze  10 місяців тому

      That's actually slightly worse to what I was getting with Silver Bear. See 9:34.
      Wolf is just an importer. Depending on the actual manufacturer of the ammo (Tula, Barnaul, Vympel, etc.) it can vary wildly in precision.

  • @lightningjockey6118
    @lightningjockey6118 11 місяців тому +1

    On kalashinkov USA website they shot over 50000 rounds on all their 7.62x39 to make sure. I don’t know why it not good here.

    • @Feldmutze
      @Feldmutze  11 місяців тому

      The ammo worked correctly here, it's just extremely imprecise. I'm sure Kalashnikov USA was able to shoot >50K rounds and have each of them work without malfunctioning, but the precision is another matter entirely.

  • @zachpeterson4519
    @zachpeterson4519 2 місяці тому

    Ah shit, I got 1000 rounds of this crap. So much for trying to bargain in bulk. I researched it before I bought it and saw good things. I didn't start seeing the criticisms until afterwards.

  • @albundy7459
    @albundy7459 9 місяців тому

    How come no one doing ammo tests ever measure for consistency? No shoulder measurements, no seating depth measurements no powder weights. I’ve never seen any ammo tester do that.

    • @Feldmutze
      @Feldmutze  9 місяців тому

      It's not a bad idea to do consistency measurements in practice, but in a lot of cases, and especially this TelaAmmo, it's nowhere near precise enough to bother with, and most the inconsistency comes through on target anyway.

    • @albundy7459
      @albundy7459 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Feldmutze but to understand the inconsistencies on target wouldn’t it be in good faith to explain why that happens? I’m not calling you out in anyway. It’s just something I noticed that can educate people on why ammo is good or bad and why the ammo is far more important than people actually think. I think it would greatly benefit those who don’t reload. It would also separate your channel from the rest.

    • @Feldmutze
      @Feldmutze  9 місяців тому

      I can see that. I don't think I'd do that in every ammo test for the sake of brevity since these can have a lot going on in them already, but you brought up good points and I'm heavily considering doing an in-depth explanation of it once in a standalone video that I can reference whenever I do future ammo tests.

  • @fatefinger
    @fatefinger Рік тому +5

    This is plinking ammo at best. This is the kind of ammo you just shoot at steel targets in the desert. Not something you’d be shooting groups with.

  • @Jrh-rp7np
    @Jrh-rp7np 10 місяців тому

    The way I always look at AK it’s like ok I’m not trying to win a marksmanship badge with it,, but it’s reliable and I can hit a target 🎯 with effectiveness out to what 300-400 yards,,and Azerbaijan holds a Formula one race every year so they at least have some money in the country…

    • @Feldmutze
      @Feldmutze  10 місяців тому +1

      I can see that. The AK isn't a tack driver but usually has adequate accuracy. This TelaAmmo, however, being 7.3 MOA, is way larger than a torso-sized target at 300 - 400 yards though.

    • @Jrh-rp7np
      @Jrh-rp7np 10 місяців тому

      @@Feldmutze welll I guess this is the type of stuff you store for a Teotwawki type of day since it’s Lacquer-coated and sealed

  • @frankbrowning328
    @frankbrowning328 Рік тому

    Velocity is good but the accuracy in this AK is terrible. I own Polish and Chinese AK's and have owned many, many others from Romania, China (in both milled and stamped recievers), Polish, USA and Egypt. The best would shoot 1.75 MOA and all but 1 would shoot 3 - 4 MOA with most any given load. The exception was the Chinese milled reciever AK that had an oversized bore and would not stay on a 5 galon bucket at 50 yards regardless of the ammo chosen

  • @johnlong7504
    @johnlong7504 4 місяці тому

    Thanks and, not trying to be a smarty, I'd call it " F e l d m u e t z e " just to be correct.

    • @Feldmutze
      @Feldmutze  4 місяці тому +1

      That's a good point, I'll think about doing that. I have the channel name as "Feldmutze" currently since most English-speaking people type it that way, even though it is incorrect. Though I don't think anyone even comes to this channel by searching the name anyway, so I might just go all the way and name it correctly with the umlaut.

  • @noneyabiz8225
    @noneyabiz8225 4 місяці тому

    TelaAmmo..AKA Suppression fire ammo..

  • @Gmny1MOA
    @Gmny1MOA 3 місяці тому +1

    Idk man the group is the group...that arsenal group is 9 inches...none of it looks too different than the next on those spread out groups you're shooting...looks more like a rifle or possibly a shooter problem

    • @Feldmutze
      @Feldmutze  3 місяці тому +1

      Put that into context though. The Arsenal group is 9 inches *including a flier, and across the board even when I tested TelaAmmo against other rounds such as Silver Bear it still shot significantly worse (11 MOA vs. 4.52 MOA). Pretty dishonest to cherry pick out the single instance where there was a flier.

  • @humansvd3269
    @humansvd3269 5 місяців тому

    Not the greatest but it's the rounds we got

  • @theoriginalOSOK
    @theoriginalOSOK 7 місяців тому

    OK, that's not Golden Tiger.... def not. No wonder it's cheap lol

  • @Barreta72
    @Barreta72 10 місяців тому

    This is definitely repackaged ammo I shot it no malfunctions good accuracy but smells like cat piss which means it's old ammo or old powder. Definitely shoots good just have to get use to smell.

    • @Feldmutze
      @Feldmutze  10 місяців тому

      Maybe they changed something with the ammo because when I shot it I didn't detect any abnormal smell, and the accuracy was really poor.

    • @Barreta72
      @Barreta72 10 місяців тому

      @Feldmutze was definitely really good shot 200 rounds telaammo and 200 wolf classic wolf. Wolf was a little more accurate but was sub moa or 1 moa putting rounds thru paper and putting round after round in same hole I was surprised myself your always nervous around new ammo I also tested out some new magazines from zastava arms polymer magazines with bolt hold open. Shoot thru my zastava m70 so it pretty much chews up any ammo but wasn't sure about this but my ffl said they have not had any complaints so I told them I would run 200 rounds thru my AK and let them know. So I switched between wolf classic and telaammo to make sure cycling both went back in fourth shot 400 rounds and not one malfunction and wherever I sent it the ammo went just smell real bad after 200 rounds of it and 200 rounds of wolf. But cannot be picky whet ammo is scarce I will live with smell but I would say repackage old military rounds but age of ammo overrated I have shot 10 15 year old ammo and no performance issues. I was happy to be surprised did not expect to cycle ever round and be that on target.

    • @Feldmutze
      @Feldmutze  10 місяців тому

      Are you sure you're measuring that MOA correctly? I've NEVER heard of or seen any AK shooting sub-MOA with any ammo, and even 1 MOA sounds like a stretch.

    • @Barreta72
      @Barreta72 10 місяців тому

      @Feldmutze Yes sending the ammo thru the same hole or close to it have not stretched it out 200 300 yards yet with ammo have to set appointment to use range but will be stretching it out within next 2 weeks ordering some more telaammo and see how it is longer range. So shooting 50 to 100 yards so far using vortex spark solar with zastava m70 and putting rounds right thru same hole or within half moa or 1 moa. Only bought 200 rounds to test out ammo and used 200 rounds wolf classic shot 400 rounds and rapid fire spread out more on target but still center mass unless I moved it myself. When shooting with a purpose was able to send rounds thru the same hole. Put apple size hole in paper target shooting thru the heart was very accurate. See what happens when I stretch it out more.

    • @Feldmutze
      @Feldmutze  10 місяців тому

      Nice. That's a good group regardless though if the rounds are touching at 50 yards that's not necessarily sub-MOA unless the holes are almost stacked on top each other. I'd be interested in seeing a vid of it being shot.

  • @fotique
    @fotique 11 місяців тому

    Military uniform to do an ammo review. Now I'm convinced 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Feldmutze
      @Feldmutze  11 місяців тому +6

      Imagine being so braindead you think all camo is a military uniform, focusing on that during an ammo review and disregarding everything else said, AND making a comment about it.
      You don't belong here. Go back to whatever hole you crawled out of.

    • @Feldmutze
      @Feldmutze  6 місяців тому

      @@botakbishop1441 Thanks! I actually tend to avoid wearing camo in a lot of my videos for technical reasons with the bitrate and compression, but you bring up a good point and I could see it being worth wearing camo even more just for the sake of pruning out commenters like the OP lol.

  • @jaksahn3370
    @jaksahn3370 Рік тому +1

    Pretty terrible. Not a great price either

  • @user-zj1uf8hs6t
    @user-zj1uf8hs6t Рік тому +1

    Gotta test against Vympel. Not buying this Azerbaijan story.

    • @fatefinger
      @fatefinger Рік тому

      Vympel is much more accurate.
      If I need to buy 7.62x39 I’ll be sure to buy the Bulgarian, Romanian or Turkish stuff.

    • @itsrass1378
      @itsrass1378 Рік тому +1

      ⁠​⁠@@fatefingerwhy does it matter, it’s all cheaper target ammo. I guess if you’re going for accuracy then I get it but I might get a case of this stuff.

    • @sweetmeatnc1504
      @sweetmeatnc1504 Рік тому

      ​@itsrass1378 ive only ahot a few boxes i picked up locally, a
      But out of my wbp i got pertty decent groups for steel case, about 4 moa, so i dont see an issue with it. Other than it being kinda expensive.

  • @NocturnalBallistics
    @NocturnalBallistics 11 місяців тому +1

    Yeah I've never seen a quality AK shoot that bad. I'd be willing to bet that either something is wrong with the rifle or shooter. I've had vastly different results at 50yds with pretty much any AK I've shot (with the exception of I.O....that company sucked.

    • @Feldmutze
      @Feldmutze  11 місяців тому +1

      I've done a lot of groups through this and most average ~4 MOA. The TelaAmmo is just particularly bad.
      Also hopefully this comment actually posts this time, it's disappeared twice.

  • @amym828
    @amym828 6 місяців тому

    "AKs are accurate shooters!!"....Yeah, ummm, about that...

  • @longshot7253
    @longshot7253 3 місяці тому

    Neither round looks to be the least bit accurate.