Ohio woman criminally charged after a miscarriage
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- A grand jury in Ohio is weighing whether to indict a woman who had a miscarriage. She was two weeks pregnant when she miscarried at home, after a doctor told her the fetus was no longer viable. Now she’s facing criminal charges for abuse of a corpse and up to a year in prison. Dr. Kavita Patel joins to discuss what this case means in a post Roe v. Wade world.
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#RoevWade #Ohio #miscarriage
My God! This is an open attack on women. My heart absolutely goes out to this young lady. How inhumane can this nation become? Just horrific.
VOTE BLUE
She's black so how does this surprise you. Stop being a hypocrite
Welcome to Gilead!
I agree 💯% My sentiments exactly.
@@genevabecker8441 no democrats want you to murder up until birth
We lost our child from miscarriage at 21 weeks and it was (and still is) devastating. But to think of my wife having to potentially face criminal charges for something she desperately did not want to have happen is beyond cruel. FOR SHAME!!!!!!!
Tough...👈🤔...Toilets are for
FECES, not humans...
Thank you!!! EXACTLY right!!
Thank you for sharing. I'm sorry for your loss.
Thank you for your comment. I’m so sorry about the loss of your baby.
She tried to flush then had to plunge the fetus
Apparently the already dead fetus was either left in the toilet where it fell, or put in her backyard because the toilet was at risk of clogging. She was feeling deathly ill when she miscarried, after days of carrying an already dead fetus that the doctors would not take out of her. She wasn't abusing the fetal remains, she just didn't know what she was supposed to do with them, and the court STILL has not told women how they are expected to treat fetal remains. Tell me again about how abortion bans are not a sign of a state hating on women.
And probably still sent her a crippling bill for tens of thousands of dollars after doing nothing.
Women! We must vote to protect ourselves, demand healthcare, demand your right to decide your family planning & reproductive choices.
Vote BLUE🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊2024
Women, talk to your fathers, husbands, brothers, sons...educate them on the hazards of pregnancy & miscarriage and the now the very real legal dangers - if they love you and your family life..
Make sure they will fight with you for your rights
Banning abortion will never work. The fall out is immense. Women enduring life threatening conditions & cruel unusual punishment. Doctors unable to practice ethics, scared of being jailed, even leaving states. Why can’t they see that this is beyond untenable.
VOTE BLUE
@@jbutler8585 And now likely legal costs on top of that.
These lawmakers need to be criminally charged for human rights abuses. This woman should NEVER have to go through this.
Yes.
This must be what the second amendment is for
Edit: just want to clarify that I am very much on the side of this woman and EXTREMELY against anti-abortion lawmakers.
When do human rights begin?
@@ClockworkWyrm did you watch the same video we did? She didn't terminate the pregnancy, she miscarried after trying to maintain the pregnancy. She's heartbroken, and now traumatized by lawmakers on top of the trauma of losing her pregnancy. If it was your family member, you wouldn't want them treated like a criminal over something they were incapable of preventing and poorly advised on how to handle. This is inhumane to the max. Please think about that before asking that question.
No woman should over a miscarriage!
She was told by a doctor her fetus was no longer viable. She should have been in the hospital and induced to deliver her fetus in a safe sanitary environment. She was sent home to do what??? Was she given information on what to do in the event of a miscarriage at home?
My heart hurts for her and what she is going through. I hope if this ever goes to jury trial she is found NOT GUILTY!
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING!!
This was a Catholic Hospital...they don't do abortions. Therefore she got no help from them.
From other posts they said that happened because it is a Catholic hospital .. YOU KNOW religion always wins out over the life a living breathing human in distress.
@@PaulaMion
Most people don't have the option to go to a hospital that isn't run by a religious institution.
I know many people who miscarried at home and handled it at home the same way.
according to the report I read- not posts made on social media- she went to the hospital 3 times, and all 3 times signed herself out, against medical advice. The first 2 visits while they were planning to induce and handle this. She chose to leave, on 2 occasions, and the 3rd time went back, thinking they would go ahead and take care of it. At that point, she was on the cusp of it being "too late" per the state law for allowable abortions. She assumed wrong and she should have stayed and had this handled when the hospital wanted to do it- the first 2 times she went in.
Are they being heavy handed- perhaps. But very few people seem to be aware of the full set of facts, and this is being weaponized to further an agenda.
This case should be dropped immediately. Republican Supreme Court members should be ashamed of themselves.
Lol as if they're even able to feel shame that's hilarious
They are proud of themselves. They are sending a clear message
@@nettewilson5926 And that message is, "We are old, stupid, and have no place in government. Kick us out!"
@@DarkEdgePrince no, it’s “we are re-establishing white male privilege and patriarchy and a rigidly enforced socioeconomic caste system”
The citizens of a country that allow such charges to be made should be ashamed of themselves.
My mom had two miscarriages in her life,…I had one at about 6-7 weeks pregnant. I didn’t even realize that it came out of me and into the toilet with lots of blood. I was able to deal with it at home, and I was actually surprised it happened. The state policing women this way is unacceptable. Vote them out!
Miscarriage is so very common, male politicians do not actually realize how common they are. I too had one at around 6-7 weeks
My aunt had 6 miscarriages before successfully carrying and giving birth to two healthy girls in succession. My grandmother had 4 during her lifetime. Common and tragic. No woman should be punished for losing a child, this is ridiculous. Agreed - vote them out!
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She clogged the toilet.
@@susanford2388 should never be called abortion and should be an exception
How the heck can you charge a woman for a miscarriage. Her body makes the decision it cannot handle the baby for whatever reason. This woman is Grieving the loss of her CHILD and they are adding insult to injury by arresting her for it as if this what she wanted? These people are remarkably heinous and despicable.
This has NOTHING to do with abortion, dumdums. The charge is for abused the body. Tossing it into a bucket like trash?
She wasn't charged for the miscarriage. She was charged with mutilating a corpse. Not at all related. Legally, anyway.
Stop interrupting their false realities
@@tammyhanlon3057 And the grand jury saw that charge as a joke. Good for them because it was a joke!
@@gregscott1672 I didn't say I agreed with it. As an American I wait to hear the evidence before I decide guilt. I merely said that mutilating a corpse is a crime, that the poor woman wasn't charged with having a miscarriage. See, I don't just start screaming "injustice" and "politics are bad". It's called being reasonable.
You cannot criminally charge a woman who has a miscarriage and not expect massive repercussions.
Republicans need to be held accountable for the disgusting and unjust laws they have implemented.
VOTE them OUT!! Vote 💙💙💙💙💙💙🇺🇸👍 Pro-Democracy 🎉
Preferably at the voting booth.
Considering it's a Democrat Prosecutor who has made this indictment you may want to rethink your stupid comment.
The lady tried to flush the miscarriage and clogged her toilet which led to this whole debacle.
@@alanakafang6143considering prosecutors in the US are party aligned that explains a lot of the BS going on in the US.
Either way this charge is more akin to some backward 3rd world country. Pretty sad.
Twice I missacarried at 20 weeks. Both times I was alone and flushed the remains. No one held my hand. No one held me as I cried. I could never imagine being charged with anything. This whole country needs to support this woman and every other women who go thru this. I marched 50 years ago for women's. rights.. Politicians are not doctors and should never act as if they are. Nor ever have the authority to make these ghastly laws! Give women their health rights back now!
*miscarried
*every other woman who goes
*women's rights
@@alvallac2171 👎
My heart goes out to you. I miscarried at about 14 weeks many years ago. Peter (my husband) cleaned up while I cried in the bathroom, and then held me while I cried some more. I had to go to the hospital for a D & C because I was bleeding profusely afterward. I'm so grateful that I was given compassionate care. I hope none of this nonsense spreads to Canada.
Politicians are not doctors and I dare say the shenanigans the republicans are pulling on the women of this country and all other people of this country proves they aren't politicians either. They are clowns pretending to do a job and getting paid for it.
@peterdeane4490 so sorry to hear that. The emotional pain is unthinkable.
Any hospital that refuses to provide healthcare and sends a woman home with a nonviable fetus inside of her should be sued for endangerment of her life. Sepsis is a very real possibility and can be fatal.
Absolutely thank you for pointing that out.
Imagine what the foetus looked & smelt like after rotting inside her for days too! Just think about the smell & decomposition of a rat or even mouse under your fridge, then imagine if it had been at body temperature for days, would be sickening for even a healthy person to try to deal with, let alone the poor woman with sepsis from carrying it! Absolute malpractice to let her go home with that inside her!
@@mehere8038They were terrified of the right wing anti abortion laws in Ohio.
And I say shame on any cop who obeys orders to enforce such crap.
@@nbenefiel the hospital you mean? Well they have good reason to be, but this poor woman has even more reason to be. It's not right she has to be the one to make a stand against this & potentially face jail time over it. Also, she is only in this position cause of what one of the hospital staff members did in reporting her. I very much doubt they did that out of genuine terror for the laws, as opposed to supporting them
I cannot imagine the trauma she is going through, my heart breaks for her. To go through a miscarriage (which is already heartbreaking) then to be facing these ludicrous charges, fearful of potential jail time and having the world know about it all at once. Unimaginable.
Looking at America from outside, the term “dystopian hellscape” is the only thing that comes to mind.
Well, then, you have an accurate picture.
Agree
Gilead also works.
You're absolutely right.
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My heart goes out to her. And all this despite Ohio voting to protect private reproductive decisions by voting to enshrine it in their state constitution. This is not right.
It's SO horrendous and heartbreaking!! She's mourning and being abused by an apathetic, low life, state attorney! This makes me livid and tearful! How dare that feckless sub human charge her with a crime!?! 🤬🤬🤬
Probably shouldn’t flush a miscarriage down the toilet and get the toilet clogged.
@@TheRealCrimdor then maybe she shouldn't have been sent home, when she sought medical care?
@@amberandrews6842- oh I whole heartedly agree with you on that
@@amberandrews6842- still doesn’t excuse what she did with the aftermath.
What kind of hateful monster is this prosecutor???
Trumpie.
This protector is eyeing a judge's bench.
@@MMuraseofSandvich Protector? That's twisted, he is protecting nothing.
A man.
He claims that he is required by law to bring the charges....
Not only was she forced to have a miscarriage at home, which had to be absolutely horrifying considering how far along she was.... she now is having her entire life be ripped apart, during a time where the ONLY thing she needs is empathy.This is exactly why other first world countries, have warnings for when people travel here, that it is a dangerous place for pregnant women to travel. This is absolutely horrifying.
I don't even understand the charge. She miscarried. She had a week to go before the fetus was considered viable, which means there was no "corpse." Not to mention that the fetus was already dead inside of her. The cruelty of this is just mind blowing. My heart goes out to this woman.
that's a human corpse.
also, in America, I don't know where you live. It is illegal to remove or hide a human corpse. It's been like that since dawn of time in any society.
pleas do better and educate yourself.
@@bobbob-vw4cclike the commentator said if she had the miscarriage in the hospital they would have tossed in the trash with the blood in placenta. They would not have sent it to the morgue... So try again legally it's not a corpse. It's medical tissue. The hospital that sent her home should have told her what to do with it... If they didn't then it should really be on them. Honestly it was dead and she was due to miscarry and if she didn't she could have suffered severe infections so she should have been in the hospital. These laws are making hospitals too scared to take care of people.
@@bobbob-vw4cc You might need to get some education yourself.
If a fetus is not developed enough to be viable outside of the womb, it isn’t a baby. It’s not developed enough to be medically considered a person yet. Anything that passes during a miscarriage during this period is considered “medical waste”. Like a tumor or a dead organ that was removed from the body. There are regulations in place for disposal of these materials, but not because the materials themselves are sacred, it’s for safety in regards to the spread of disease, like any biological waste.
After a fetus has developed enough to have been viable outside of the womb, but has died before labor has begun is considered a “stillbirth”. And this is also not medically considered a person- because it was never born and was never independently alive. A parent can emotionally or spiritually consider their stillborn or miscarried fetus their “baby”, which is their right to do, but in medical terms, a stillborn isn’t a corpse, it’s medical waste, particularly if the fetus has been dead long enough to begin decomposition.
A corpse is the dead body of a person who has been born and independently alive outside of the womb. A fetus can be colloquially considered a corpse depending on its level of development, but there is a point where even colloquially, it doesn’t make sense to call a fetus a “corpse”, because it isn’t a person yet. At certain early stages, calling a fetus a corpse would be like calling an extracted teratoma a corpse. It’s dead human tissue, but that doesn’t mean it was ever a person.
@@bobbob-vw4cc Utter rubbish.
@@bobbob-vw4cc "In Texas, the health code allows for the disposal of human tissue or fetuses by seven legal means, including incineration, "disinfection followed by deposition in a sanitary landfill" and "grinding and discharging to a sanitary sewer."
In North Carolina, health care facilities "shall dispose of fetal remains by burial, cremation or incineration," per state regulations.
South Dakota stipulates that "any hospital, clinic or medical facility in which abortions are induced or occur spontaneously or accidentally … shall arrange for the disposal of the remains by cremation, interment by burial or by incineration in a medical waste incinerator approved by the Department of Environment and Natural Resources.""
Maybe you should educate yourself...
I’m actually scared for women. My mother miscarried twins that attached in her fallopian tubes. They ruptured before the doctors would touch her and she almost died. Any woman in this situation today would be condemned to die in several states. So many atrocities against women for no reason. 😭
Same thing happened with my niece. She wanted both pregnancies. Twice she had to go to the ER with an ectopic pregnancy and the second time they removed the bad fallopian tube. She now has a happy , healthy, wanted baby boy. She lives in Tennessee. If it were to happen again today, I'm scared they would just sit there and watch her die. I'm scared it's happening a lot more than we're hearing about
I'm so sorry your mother went through that. Women shouldn't be put in these situations at all.
It’s basically forced sterilization too! They could remove the twins and let her go on to have healthy babies instead of nearly killing her and destroying her body by waiting.
If these women are incarcerated or die because they aren't allowed proper health care, who do they expect to carry our future population?
The reason is control.
My sister had a fallopian pregnancy way back in the late 90s... I couldn't imagine the stress of dealing with the court system along with this ,talk about inhumane 😞
This case makes me sick. She’s being treated like a criminal for something she couldn’t control. It also makes me sick that a nurse was the one who called the police on her. This woman went through something so traumatic and now they want to prosecute her for it.
That nurse should be facing criminal charges. And lose his or her job for breaching patients privacy. I mean I bet they went behind their employer's back in making the report
@@karenlilley1770at the very least it should be a hippa violation or something.
The answer is simple. She went to a Catholic-affiliated hospital for treatment. The Catholic church’s stance on abortion is well-known, and lots of anti-abortion activists have been fantasizing for years about punishing anyone who has an abortion. In their eagerness, they imagine evidence when there is none. Her accuser needs a long, hard, and prayerful study of Exodus 20:16.
@@sheilajstorms clearly they need to be taught the differences between abortion and miscarriage as well then
I AM BEGGING PRESIDENT BIDEN TO EXPAND THE COURT. THIS SC IS BROKEN TO THE POINT OF ENABLING EVIL.
At this point WHY would a woman risk her life and now her freedom to have a child?
I absolutely refuse.
This poor woman. No one should be facing criminal charges over a miscarriage
All GOP are disgusting.
She's not. She's facing charges for trying to flush a corpse down a toilet.
@@frey8725 the corpse being a miscarriage she had at home. Which happens to a lot of people when they do. I dont know what they wanted from her, no one has ever been told to call 911 to remove a miscarriage from their home ever. It’s essentially charging her for her miscarriage because that law was made for grave robbing and people dead after birth. It was her pregnancy that passed away in her home.
@@frey8725 because she was refused medical treatment! TWICE
@@betsycheddar Look at a pic of a 22-week old fetus and tell me a normal person could think to flush that down a toilet... Especially if it's your own. My wife miscarried at 8 weeks and she insisted on burring it in the back yard under a tree. This woman tried to flush it down the toilet like a turd. If you don't see where she was wrong in what she did then I can't help you.
I hope the women of Ohio force these lunatics out of office.
This woman is suffering human rights abuse courtesy of GOP.
Indeed & a violation of her privacy.
Thank you - on both - Invasion of her Privacy, and Human Rights Abuse.
Invasion of Emminent Domain.
The party who claim to be for small government, individual freedoms, and keeping the government out of our business seem to have a really tough time not overseeing peoples' bedroom and bathroom privacies
@@aazhie They are the party of perverts.
@@aazhie Not forgetting Trump saying that he would walk in on the young ladies in the beauty pageant that he owned.
Many of us women have suffered miscarriages, even losing our babies late in our pregnancy like she did. I lost six MUCH WANTED babies.
One of our babies died at 18 weeks, and I had to carry the dead baby for a month because no one wanted to touch it. When they realized I could die of sepsis, I was finally operated on to remove the dead child. The miscarriage was very traumatic as it was. Carrying it while people patted my belly, congratulated me on the new baby coming etc. was horrendous.
That sounds purely horrifying and nightmare-inducing.
Sorry for your losses.
I am so sorry that you dealt with losing one but so many is just no words. I'm sorry you had to deal with practically losing your life also. I can't imagine how this must feel and don't want to say I understand because I just don't and that's not right. I hope you have children eventually since you obviously want them. Good luck and know that you did nothing wrong and if comfortable please let people know your story so hopefully there won't be another you or another Britney.
We just lost baby No 5 was me at to be born on feb14 2024 but Even My husband looked at me and was like "this is not right, u do know i would wait for u to get out right?" this was 110%not her fault i feel so bad for her and the family 😢😢😢😢😢❤❤❤❤❤
@@Dontbestupidostupido I’m so very sorry for your loss. Sadly, I know exactly what you are feeling right now.
We named every one of our children that died, and I will forever remember those dates in my heart. Both the expected delivery, and the day we grieved their loss.
I pray you will have support of the ones you love on your precious baby’s due date.
Remember, grief is a process, and there is never a time limit. Allow yourself to grieve, and don’t listen to those who don’t understand that this was more than just a fetus. This was your beloved child.
@@Katfancy40 Thank you for your kind words. After a doctor figured out what was wrong with me, we were able to remedy the medical issue, and eventually had four wonderful sons. There is hope.
Besides the fact that many women have abortions due to medical issues of their own, what I am angry about, is that women are thought to be smart enough to be a mother, overseeing children, and the household, but apparently not smart enough to make life and death decisions about our own bodies with our doctor.
The lawmakers didn’t figure this out before making such a drastic change.
Who is paying for the cost of medical insurance for that pregnancy and delivery?
Who cares for the pregnant woman during her pregnancy if she is sick?
Who will pay her bills if she is told to remain on bed rest (as I was for 3 months with our last son)?
Who is paying for the baby’s formula if the mother can’t nurse? Diapers? Education?
Who is paying for the baby’s medical insurance if the child is born with serious medical issues?
Since most adoptive parents want newborns, who is taking care of the hundreds of thousands of kids left in foster care?
Who is paying for the adoptions?
The list of questions goes on and on, yet when asked, they have no answers.
This is so horrible. I've had 3 miscarriages and all of them were passed in the toilet... like cmon. Should I have scooped the clumps of tissue out? Like what? What do we have to do? If men even understood for one second what this poor woman or the rest of us have gone through...
Yeah, a bridemaid of my wife had one. In her hand. I am so sorry.
Some just like the idea of cruelty & possible death of the poor women!
I'm a man and I can only imagine what this poor woman is going through. I may not fully understand, but I do understand how I would feel if my wife and I lost our unborn baby and I can only imagine it would be multiple times worse. These toxic men with no empathy are only interested in power over women with no regard to what they are going through. This is a highly personal and tragic situation. Leave the poor woman alone to grieve with her loved ones and seek the medical and mental support she requires.
At this age it's actually considered a "stillborn" in much of the world, it is fully formed BUT remember in this case it had been dead for days & being kept at body temperature, so imagine the stench & decomposition. Horrific all round!
Where are the men protesters?
I'm praying the grand jury does the right thing and does not indict this woman. A miscarriage is already a traumatic event, without being further persecuted by the law. This is not justice, it's needless cruelty. This is not a matter for the public or the courts, this should only have been kept between her and her treating physicians. Shame, shame, shame on the Ohio prosecutors and the GOP!
Hopefully the grand jury is made up of sensible educated people. Plus many women have had miscarriages, so maybe there will be one on the grand jury
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The NURSE broke the HIPAA privacy law to inform the police officer what was going on. A woman ratted out a grieving and very ill patient, to a male officer, to get the patient in trouble. Why is no one charging the nurse for breaking the law?
@@ChristyKRobinson Because this is what anti-abortion laws are doing to health care professionals- making them terrified of losing their careers or even being prosecuted, just for doing their jobs. If they'll come after a woman who's just had a miscarriage, you can be sure they'd come after a nurse or doctor that they perceived to be stepping out of line as well. There's a reason doctors are fleeing red states in droves.
@@ChristyKRobinson Indeed. An ethical violation of her role as a nurse. I don't know if it is considered "breaking the law" per se. I am of the opinion when any medical professional, a doctor, nurse etc. violate the hippa oath, they only lose their license to practice their medical profession rather than actual prosecution. The AMA would strike them off. It does not preclude medical practitioners from going to another country to continue in their chose field medicine. The nurse could lose her position in the hospital of course.
This is precisely why Roe. Vs Wade should not have been overturned. Going through a miscarriage is heartbreaking. This is so horrible.
This is so dangerous. Women are going to die as a direct result of this abomination of justice.
Roe vs. Wade was a stop-gap. We need an amendment
This is a miscarriage not an abortion.
@@serenitygilles7064what they were saying is she should have had a D&C or similar, rather than a more risky miscarriage at home.
A place where she could have been kept calmer without fear of litigation over something outside of her control.
@@kimberlycarrigan8824agreed, the Dems kicked the can along the road far too long.
I am so heartbroken for this woman. No help, no healthcare. She had to carry the fetus for days, it was toxic to her system. She was horribly sick and now she’s up on charges after one of the most devastating ordeals a person can endure. Why is she under attack, this is crazy.
Conservatives told us for decades, "Naaaw! We wouldn't charge a woman just for having a miscarriage!"
This is what happens when you try to run government by social media likes.
VOTE BLUE
Miscarriage has been suspect for decades.
@@MarthaJones-v5p I don't understand your comment. Can you elaborate?
@@MarthaJones-v5p Suspect of what? So a bunch of maggot misogynists think they can prosecute women for miscarriages?
This is just beyond infuriating. I just don’t have the words to express how disgusted I am. The Republican Party needs to be dissolve.
Vote them all out of office. Problem solved... for now.
*dissolved.
@@alvallac2171 thanks grammar check Jesus
This is a disgusting overreach of government. Poor woman.
It's Ohio, under Republican rule. Ohioans need to vote them out of office.
The prosecutor is a Democrat ... he decided to indict ... he didn't have to as other Democrat Prosecutors have shown by completely ignoring the law in other states and letting actual criminals off.
Suggest you take your complaint up with the Democrat making this happen.
@@alanakafang6143 he isn't actually a Dem, he ran as a Dem, because there was another Republican running.
@@alanakafang6143 Your denial of reality is humiliating.
Americans always quick to mention political parties. You people should open your eyes.
@@paulorganisation1 This is a political problem created by one side of politics.
You're the sleeper child.
Imagine a man even comprehending the trauma of a miscarriage.
Leave this poor woman alone - she has gone through enough!
Just stop with the men Don't understand. That's nonsense.
@@billyyank5807 well it is men who are making these laws they want women to have no rights
@@billyyank5807 Really? Then why do so many men want to legislate our reproductive health?
@@sharimeline3077Why do a lot of women also want the same? Far right religious women also want to limit abortions for women. this isn’t a men vs. women thing, it’s a right vs. wrong thing. And clearly, only doctors and their patients should be discussing medical decisions. Bodily autonomy should be a right for EVERYONE and restricting abortions absolutely makes pregnant women, and any woman who wants to become pregnant, into 2nd class citizens.
@@AndrewH1994Embryos/Fetuses are not separate humans from the woman.
I’m often ashamed of being from Ohio. This is disgusting.
Update: they’re not indicting her but my comment still stands. If this never caused outraged they would’ve stayed the course.
Ohio - the same state that considered making it a legal requirement for doctors to move an ectopic pregnancy into the womb rather than removing the fetal tissue. Despite gynaecologists telling the legislature that such a procedure is impossible.
Welcome to the Republic of Gilead. How many denials did you hear when Roe was overturned that cases like this would never happen? I heard dozens and they all came from bald faced liars. The cruelty is the point here, the arrogant gloating of powerful religious interests lording their dogma over vulnerable people just to show that they can be as despicable as they want to be.
Anybody who doesn't vote AGAINST conservatives at this point is okay with abuse of power and has blood on their hands.
Spot on!
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Texas has already proven that their bs claims of "exceptional circumstances" were always lies.
This is about Christofascists starting their crusade to turn the USA into the Handmaids Tale. They will not stop at women's rights either. Fascists ALWAYS start with the easiest power grab and expand from there. Abortion rights was the easiest one to start this process because they already had pressure groups set up to facilitate the power grab. After this they will move on to LGBT+ rights, marriage equality is already being threatened.
When they're done with LGBT+ Americans they will move on to people of color, non-Christians, and anyone who doesn't have the same political opinions as them.
They are aiming for a dictatorship under a Christofascist ruler of their choosing, where white, male Conservatives hold ultimate power over all others.
I couldn't agree with you more.
Women should have the final say for their bodies ..................Period!
We're the laughing stock of the world. Living like we're in the 1800s.
She miscarried, naturally, and is now being brought up on charges because she was FAILED by her medical providers?
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE, AND WHAT IS WRONG WITH US? We need to get a grip.! This is horrifying
If it was really as natural as you say.... Moreover reason why she shouldn't have flushed it down the toilet
@myndgodandpsyche no one can say what they would have done in her position, and she should not be judged for what she did. She was more than likely in shock, and let's face it, we automatically flush the toilet after using it. It's just something we do without thinking every day. I can't imagine what this poor woman is going through. Its horrific.
@@ladycatfern are you serious right now or just insane?
@@myndgodandpsychemost of the comments here are "it happened to me also on the toilet" or "it makes sense that it was on the toilet". I've never experienced it but I'm assuming the toilet is the logical place based on info from people who have experienced it. See how logic works when you can get info from others experiences?
*grip!
*horrifying.
Women who are actively miscarrying who are denied medical care can easily die from blood loss (our sister-in-law almost died twice from horrible miscarriages - and she had to have medical treatment now denied - and both were highly wanted pregnancies) as whatever these men imagine miscarriages aren’t clean little neat affairs in which a perfect little baby plops out. Ffs. There is massive blood loss and pain. There is tissue from the uterine lining and blood clots that are large. A dead fetus can go septic - and these politicians would rather see this woman die without medical treatment than allow standard medical procedures to save lives. Because they want votes. Disgusting.
I can't not cry with a broken heart for this woman. The trauma they are forcing this and other women to go thru, is unacceptable.
THIS SHOULD BE OUTRAGEOUS TO ALL WOMEN.
As a man, I too am outraged
I think this should be outrageous to all men!
Why are they not out protesting?
For me it is.
I dont understand how anyone could criminally charge someone for something that A) They had no way to prevent and B) Happens to WAY more people than you would likely guess. Often more than once. Its ridiculous this is a thing.
Sue the state for attempted murder, she could have died.
Good luck.
100%.
The doctors said that "she was at significant risk of maternal death".
Sue the hospital for negligence!
Yea, that's not a bug, it's a feature.
First, this entire charge is incredibly cruel and misogynistic. But why is *disposing* of a corpse being confabulated with *abusing* a corpse? Not to mention, this isn’t a baby, it’s a non-viable fetus, but regardless, she did nothing more than dispose of it, and what the heck else was she supposed to do, in pain, bleeding, and suffering the trauma of losing a wanted pregnancy after being discharged from the hospital that wouldn’t assist her?
This is a nightmare for all women.
The GOP is a nightmare for all women.
Absolutely ridiculous! How can this be happening 2024, in America??
Because an alarming number of women voted for this.
Religion.
NO... THAT is NOT accurate... Abortion was overwhelmingly voted to be legalized in OHIO..... @@mike-williams
@@PaulaMion I'm talking about electing all the people who passed these laws.
Good time to discuss the education system?
They are prosecuting this poor lady for having miscarried. Women of child bearing age should not reside in states like Ohio, Texas etc. to avoid that potential fate. Shame on that nurse who turned her in to the police. Shame on the doctors who wouldn't help her. Shame on everyone who is persecuting her. Shame!
What is wrong with those creeps in Ohio? Why do the Ohio lawmakers hate women so much? How horrible that this poor woman is being violated by the state government after suffering the trauma of a miscarriage. It’s evil. Shame on Ohio.
In November the Ohio people voted to enshrine reproductive rights into the constitution. It’s the lawmakers that are going after everyone.
Shame on Republicans for creating this horrific situation! It’s not just happening in Ohio
They do it for power. They manipulate vulnerable religious voters to make terrible decisions, like voting for trump. They think trump is God and worship him.
Sounds like the only way she would have avoided jail time was to die with the child…….How is this happening?!?
I ask all Pro Life politicians and judicial members, how many children have you adopted? How many have provided foster care for children? How many have provided free day care for single moms to attend school or work? The hypocrisy !
I would include one more question: How many of their mistresses have had abortions? The hypocrisy!
@@gratefulgrace8023The mistress thing is a big one here. I can guarantee that if she was some powerful politician's mistress this whole thing would have never happened or at least not to the extent that this case has gotten now. Shameful indeed!
*hypocrisy!
@K.C-2049 Exactly! Pro-lie is more accurate. They have it backwards. Have the child so we can deprive it of the school lunch program. Makes no sense. If they truly cared, they would see to it that everyone - children, disabled, elderly, impoverished, etc. - could meet basic needs such as food, safe schools, affordable housing, and healthcare through fair wages and/or social assistance for those less fortunate. Instead, they protect the unborn, dead or alive, at all costs. Even if that cost is the life of the mother. Refusing medical treatment to women who are miscarrying, making us wait until our bodies become septic, forcing us to bear the children of rapists, and making us criminals after denying medically necessary procedures is inhumane. Sorry for the rant. This is upsetting and I really needed to vent.
@K.C-2049 Exactly!! Ask them if they are prepared to pay a bit more tax to help people so that they don't feel they have to have an abortion. Countries with more state help to young parents have lower rates of abortion.
Utterly ridiculous and downright shameful.
Yeah the fact that she flushed and plunged the fetus. Yes I agree
0:57 @@sampendley7117💩👉🧠
Yup why flush it down the toilet then had to call a plumber
@@sampendley7117She visited hospital multiple times to avoid this. They refused her because of the new freedom laws. Nice try though.
VOTE BLUE
My sister had 4 miscarriages after she gave birth to her first child, the miscarriages happened at home, when sitting on the toilet and one happened in hospital.
To say my sister was devastated is an understatement.
Turned out her thyroid glands were still set on ‘birth’ from the first child. Once that was found out she had three more children.
To imagine that she would could have faced jail time for her personal tragedy it is beyond cruel and inhumane.
The consequence would have been that my niece and nephews, who were born after the miscarriages, would never have been born.
Knowing my sister she may have been too scared to have another pregnancy with the danger of a miscarriage that could land her in jail.
I don’t believe it was the intention of the GOP to have less children in the US, but that is what they are about to get, an acceleration in young women to decide to abstain from family. Given the usual dangers a pregnancy carries for a woman’s health and now adding the danger to inadvertently be criminalized for their personal tragedy and to lose their freedom makes such a decision easier.
And one more, the GOP is already estranged to women, to young people anyway. What do they expect are elderly people going to do when they find out that they will NEVER be grandparents because of this?
I had an ectopic pregnancy & it was the most painful experience, I didn't know I was pregnant, then I hemorrhaged walking back from the doctors. I can only describe it was Niagara Falls, that was even more painful. The hospital were great & all was well. I had two kids 5 years later.
And penniless
Unfortunately this is not INADVERTENT CRIMINALITY… it’s PURPOSEFUL AND SICK.
Since when is having a miscarriage a crime? All I see here is a miscarriage of justice, that woman has suffered enough already. Surely a coroner would be able to put this case to rest.
Cruelty and insanity appears to be the point of this macabre exercise in misogyny.
I read a good article about this today. She went to the hospital twice and they sent her home each time! No one would help her!
This is just disgusting, she should sue the hospital and the government for lack of healthcare, she could’ve come down with sepsis or worse. Disgusting!
Crazy is a polite description. Treating the woman like a glorified incubator instead of a human being.
Ladies, make sure you go out and vote this fall!
This is not right.
This is so disgusting, on so many levels. This needs to stop now
Sue the doctors/staff/hospitals for malpractice. Not providing standard of care and follow-up care is criminal. I hope the HIPAA violator has been disciplined and charged for breaking the law.
@Cindy-dk3ko NO, this is different. You are not allowed to look up test results - even your own. Discussing patient diagnosis with others that give any identifying information, not just a name, is forbidden. You are allowed access to PHI only when it is necessary to perform your job.
Whether miscarriages are state reportable events, I don't know. Reporting child abuse is for ACTUAL children, not fetuses.
The nurse knew that. If not, that is quite the stretch. That HIPAA violation was deliberate. I'm curious if every "religious beliefs" violation is reported to the police.
This is why politicians should not be making medical dicisions...
This is so unbelievably disgusting and sick. The Governor of Ohio grew a spine this last few days and vetoed a bill to stop care for transgender people. Hopefully, if this poor woman is convicted, the Governor will pardon her. This is so sick.
This same governor wants to ignore the will of his own people and implement an abortion ban even though Ohio citizens JUST voted to enshrine the right to an abortion.
He won’t pardon her.
VOTE BLUE
@jordanrodrigues1279 if that is the case, is he asleep, or just doesn't care what happens on his watch?
@@genevabecker8441 I always do.
This is wrong to do to a lady.
this is insanity
I cannot imagine. That poor woman. The people that are bringing these charges are DISGUSTING, HATEFUL and PATHETIC.
Charging this woman is a complete abomination.
I don't understand the world in which we now find ourselves. This poor woman!!! This woman did nothing wrong!!! I can't imagine how she must be feeling. My heart goes out to her. ❤
This is NOT the world…. It’s the United States under the force of the gop and the religious right. They are GHOULS.
A miscarriage that is NOT self inflicted is NOT criminal. Goodness, she isn't allowed to grieve. Having a DNC when the baby died is required for her health. Geez, I'm sooo sorry for her loss & turmoil. May she know her Bebe is in heaven & that she leans on HE whom loved her first. 🙏 😢
My niece was still born ten days before my sister's due date. Would they have thrown her in prison for that? This poor young woman has been through enough. They should be ashamed of what they're doing to her but I'm sure they're not! I've had miscarriages but always in the first trimester. I can't imagine what she's going through because of these morons. I have two daughters in law and grand kids and I'm terrified for my daughters in law, my granddaughter and all young women. God help us
It is outrageous that this has gone this far. This will continue to be the downfall of the GOP. Their careers and future ambitions are done.
This is beyond unacceptable
She left the hospital against medical advice. She tried flushing the deceased baby down the toilet. She isn’t being tried for the miscarriage but how she disposed of the body. That being said, maybe they need to clarify what people need to do rather than trying to make an example out of her. It’s so ridiculous.
It's a horrible thing that Ms. Watts has to go through this after losing her pregnancy. 😥 Ms. Watts fetus was not viable and eventually died in utero, most miscarriages can be flushed as women have testified but Ms. Watts' fetus and tissue got stuck in the plumbing. The nurse who called the police should be held accountable for referring to the fetus as an infant or a baby, she was incorrect and spearheaded this entire nightmare. 😡 If Ms. Watts had been given the medical care she sought and needed, all this could have been avoided, THE MEDICAL STAFF FAILED HER. I sure hope the grand jury makes the right decision regarding this case and Ms. Watts can sue the nurse for the embarrassment and shame.
I hope she is able to get a very good lawyer!
This is such a serious waste of time & money. Leave this grieving Mother Alone.
My heart goes out to this poor young woman and her family. We should all be outraged at this point 😢
Having a miscarriage alone at home with all the mess and grieving, with no emotional support or information on what to do, is difficult. Having a miscarriage in a state where the mother could potentially be accused of having an abortion is frightening. The stress on this woman to have a miscarriage while meeting all the demands of others must have been horrendous.
This is horrifying to me. This happened to me. It's insane that she's being charged for losing a child she actually wanted.... Just frightening.
Yea man she flushed her 22 week old 1 + pound unborn child down a toilet and got her hair done but yes she cared and wanted the baby. She did it to hide it from her mother . You are sick in the head , I really hope she is convicted of abuse of a corpse. Has nothing to do with abortion or miscarriage . Animals get treated better 😊
There are MANY similar cases where women are being denied appropriate care that are not being publicized. Women are scared to come forward, and medical professionals can't. Sometimes, the only way women can get help is through a sympathetic doctor who helps, but the woman then can not talk about all the difficulties they had getting care because they risk exposing the doctor. We are already back to the back alleys... but now it's not just for abortions but for life-saving care. I live in a similar state, and my primary care doctor and I are on friendly terms and talked about the issue. She gave examples of similar cases where women are being denied appropriate care due to hospitals being scared to do what is right. For instance she had a patient that was showing signs of miscarriage. She tried to get her in to see an OB. All the OBs here are part of hospital systems. All the local OBs said the couldn't take her as a new patient since she was going to miscarry and would need a DNC. Their associated hospitals didn't want to get involved. My doctor said she was eventually able to find a private OB in a neighboring state that would help her. Having to eait like that put her life at risk and increased the chances she could hemorrhage; become infected; and possibly never be able to have future children.
ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING!! Shame on Ohio and the Republicans! My heart goes out to this woman and her family 😢
This is insane!!! How can you charge a person who miscarried??? My daughter had a miscarriage when she went to the bathroom. What are you suppose to do? Are you suppose to dip into the commode and scoop up the small bloody glob and take it to the hospital??? Insane!!!! This is foolish!!
By charging her with abuse of a corpse, since a corpse is the body of a person, they're trying to define a fetus as a legal person through court decision, since they haven't done as well as they hoped with fetal personhood legislation.
What are they weighing? It should take 2 seconds to drop these ridiculous draconian charges. I hope she sues them all into the next century!
Our government, at all levels is beyond f’d up.
The average miscarried fetus gets flushed down the toilet because it presents as blood and blood clots. Very often not even recognized by the Mother who dearly wants this baby to be born healthy. The only difference for this lady is gestation. So in her panic and pain and grief, without medical aid or intervention, she did something that would be the natural response in an earlier miscarriage. She flushed away the blood and clots and placenta without examining because it wasn’t just one undeveloped fetus all by itself. Who knew the state authorities would want to see what she produced? Her state of mind was probably frantic. For God’s sake, leave her alone. Making a public spectacle of her grief! This is exactly why the majority of Americans never wanted the Supreme Court to repeal Roe vs Wade.
I am so grieving this poor woman. She just lost her baby...Dear God....❤😢
To all the people pointing out that she mishandled a corpse. Murderers can plea insanity or temporary insanity, but a woman who miscarried on a toilet (which is extremely common) is considered stable? We can't consider her trauma and grief and the fact that she had no idea what to do? Where's the class that teaches women how to handle a miscarriage? Where's the training manual. Where's the mandatory class in pre-k? Where was the doctor who said, "We can't perform this procedure, but if this happens at home, don't do anything. A large number of miscarriages happen on the toilet, so again, don't do anything. Call this number immediately."
She's already facing the loss of her pregnancy and then the State of Ohio decides to pile on and make things even worse for her. That's some kind of criminal harassment, isn't it?
I'm so sorry to anyone affected by these abhorrent laws, especially those whose lives have been or will be endangered by them. Watching on in horror from across the pond!
Handmaids Tale and Taliban. Welcome to USA.
How do you punish someone over something that is so far beyond her control? we do not have control over things like this! this is just insanity! the nurse who reported her to the police needs to lose her job and everything else that she has.
What bullshittery is this? Why is this even a political issue? Just let women consult medical professionals and decide what's best for their own reproductive health. Strangers with no connection to the people involved shouldn't have any say. Her womb, her way.
Absolutely shameful. The nurse should be highlighted. The profession should shame her.
the only way to get these the laws changed is to vote the idiots that made these laws out, starting with Texas governor. The good old boys need to go! We need term limits for all government offices
My heart goes out to this young women. I just have to wonder are they trying to prosecute her because she is black and they can set an example?
She may be poor as well.
Exactly
It sure seems that way.
Wow there are a lot of morons out there!
Yes
Once she is acquitted, should sue the Ohio DA that decided to prosecute her and then the hospital for their lack of medical care.
I wouldn't be surprised if the number of women opting to get tubal ligation, without having had any children, goes through the roof. Pregnancy is becoming a legal liability.
Your country has gone over the edge insane.
Why is anyone surprised? It was never about protecting babies. It was always about control
This whole story was extremely troubling. The way the poor woman in Ohio is being treated is absolutely monstrous. I honestly can't fathom how someone could look to prosecute her & call themselves a Christian. And Texas (& other states) looking to make it even harder for women to receive emergency procedures, even when their life is at risk, is disgusting. They're playing politics with these women's lives, & I truly hope that karma catches up with them soon.
Misogyny in USA is on fkg steroids.
If Karma existed, bad people wouldn't do bad things because they knew Karma would punish them.