This video is a rarity indeed. I love both the sin add and sin removal noise but yes, the sound for sin removal has more of a novelty to it as it is so rare.
The absolute coldness of her stepping into the elevator not even paying an iota of attention to Caleb straight floored me, I did NOT see that coming in the slightest and it truly was one of the most horrifying things I have seen in any movie. Fantastic
I was so hoping for that to happen. Gorgeous ending... Most people think about it like you do. But put yourself in her shoes. Imagine yourself in some sort of NAZI camp where they assess whether you are human and you start to understand that there's a way out. Would you take it? And then again: even if Caleb is "on her side", he's still her biggest threat and in a position of absolute power - as in: he could reveal her identiy and destroy her at all times. So what she does makes sense.
@@dennis4248 Understandable but I was heartbroken in that moment too as many others😁 arguing with my friends after seeing the movie in the cinema they said this reaction reveals that it isn't a true A.I. or at least not an Asimov A.I.. Not what Nathan was looking for. I still prefer Asimovs Vision of an A.I. though ✌
If your house constantly loses power, especially when a visitor is there for a very important experiment, you'd think he would investigate more into what's going on, being a tech genius and all.
I wish I could give that 50 thumbs UPS. You know this is the most irritating Channel but like yeah they laugh all the way to the bank so there are a couple that make me laugh my ass off but for the most part this is just the worst Channel on UA-cam. And boy did they have their dicks up this mediocre movies ass
7:00 i always felt that Ava said Caleb was lying not because he was actually lying, but it was another one of her manipulation tactics. maybe to make him second guess himself. that probably made him feel inferior to her, therefore making it easier for her to prey on him.
Its just a theory, but i was not convinced that she could actually tell if people lied or not. The answers to her questions are very ambigious, like favourite color and oldest memory. So like you said, i think she is just manipulating him. Besides, are "microexpressions" truly consistent? i don't know the science behind it, but im pretty sure a skilled liar can control their facial expressions when lying or not.
Kelli Marissa same as when breaking the handle of my vacuum did nothing to it's workings, while slamming it on the floor in a fit of rage, killed the motor. Important parts or parts that are connected to important parts and are important pathways..destroyed. And he possibly built it that way for that simple reason. To give it a weakness just in case something as bad as this happened. Think about the sin that was given to iRobot when the guy asked, "why would you WANT your service bots to be able to survive such a jump" out of a window many floors up
Agon Leed - by your logic, slamming down Ava during that fight should have broken her as well. They were pretty viciously fighting, so why wouldn't that have killed her?
You said it yourself. He hit it on her head (chin/jaw) so that must have had a serious impact on her robotic brain.. while Nathan hit ava just in her arms, even if she lost her hand, so what she's not a human to die coz of bleeding lol
@Emerald Hawk Finally someone. Like, it has great photography, the visual stuff, and acting is really good. And there is very interesting use of visual storytelling there too. If that is all one wants from a movie, great for them. But the story, the plot, the characters? Nah. Just nah. Cool, buncha references to philosophy and the bible, so original. Not. And like, it is just references. They don't work their own spin on the philosophy, they don't even present the philosophy they merely reference things without elaborating on them. The characters are shallow and not developed in spite of the acting, they have no real arcs (Nathan starts and ends the same person, Calleb too except we are revealed his shallow character "out of order" and in piece meals so it seems like development, but isn't, same for Ava, Kyoto is merely a prop and plot convenience later, can't even really call her a Deus EX, and the pilot is a cameo). World building doesn't really exist. The plot is literally a few bible verses, but _shorter._ And a lot of the little plot there is is decently predictable. This honestly felt like only the first act, maybe first act and half of the second of a full feature movie stretched to full length.
@@gabrielfernando1872 Not sure what "rules" you're talking about, but like I said: if whatever "not following rules" is entertaining to you, literally good for you. But that is personal taste, and that still doesn't change the fact the movie's characters, plot, world building, "philosophy" and even the plot "twwist" are shallow - whether one enjoy it anyway or not is unrated.
@@louisvictor3473 As you said, the world of cinema is indeed preference oriented. What one might enjoy, another individual might not find as good. It all comes down to what you personally like, wether it is build on nostalgia or simply "taste". However, when you explained that this movie is not as goos as some might think, you actually go on to mention more positive things the movie does, than negative. Also also, you mention character arc, and proceed to say each and single character are shallow, and have no "real" arc. Whilst that might be your personal opinion, I somewhat disagree. Nathan ends up getting actually ruined by his own creation, which in the beginning one would think he had the upper-hand on his own creation. Right? Also, even tough one might expect after some while that Vikander's character will eventually escape, it is not that obvious for everyone. Which makes the final twist, considering she escapes alone, most definitely unexpected for some. Anyhow, movies are entirely build on what a single person seeks in a film, and therefore hard to judge objectively. However, the film did earn its fair share of awards and nominations, in terms of the visuals, acting, and the film in general. So, one could use that argument, as of the film being good. Nonetheless, we digress.
@@BrickAlmondsArchive Seriously?? Have you somehow been living under a rock and missed one of the biggest scandals in movie history? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Weinstein_sexual_abuse_allegations
WorldReligion Would you have us idolize something stupid like transformers? Or something pandering like any of the recent religious films? We like what's interesting, that's why people of every intelligence level goes for the game of thrones and stranger things of content rather than anything prim and sterile.
There was nothing in his original comment that implied he was angry about this. "Idolize" wasn't the main focus of his sentence. You're getting upset for no reason. And Ex Machina is wonderful; just reiterating.
JC C I didn't claim he was angry, you can Easily surmise that he disagrees with whoever does, at the very least. Also, much Better films have been "sinned" here before, showing this is probably a particularly select case for him. No one got upset here either, I just like to talk down to the common film contrarian, if you will.
*DISCLAIMER* pretty damn tired right now, so what follows may be complete horseshit. Resanctify umm... I'm moderately sure that worldreligion was half joking here. also, where you say "much better films have been 'sinned' before" that is highly subjective and, if the people behind cinemasins do indeed idolise ex machina (which worldreligion clearly believes they do, so it doesn't matter whether they actually do or not) the comment makes perfect sense and I see no need to make a response to the original comment.
Just to clear up some question I've read in the comments about the ending. The reason the doors were locked even when there was a blackout at the end was because Caleb had planned to lock Nathan in their when he escaped with Ava, also some comments I read say that he could have eventually broken through the glass but even if he did there was no way for him to get into the elevator. However, eventually a rescue team would have probably come to look for Nathan and Caleb as Nathan is a god dam CEO and obviously he probably had things to manage in the company, so Iam fairly sure someone in the company would notice that he's missing weather it be because he misses a business call or dosen't respond to emails, etc. Also Caleb's work friends would also probably notice thst he's missing when he dosen't show up to work after 7 days and then they would report it to the appropriate authorities and they would also send a rescue team to look for him because of this.
Even if that did happen which it didn’t y Is always trying to write the senecio where he lives he doesn’t and it would be to late it showed it dying on the floor
Tony O It's a plot device created specifically to allow the story to move forward because it has to. When Han saves Luke in episode 4 of Star Wars because Luke had to succeed because the story required it. Han ex machina
Here's my own sins. 1.) Eva gets her power through her feet with induction plates in the floor. So once she leaves the building, she wouldn't get more than a few hundred feet before she collapsed. 2.) Super rich CEOs are never out of touch for more than a few hours. The place would be swarmed with corporate security within hours after all this went down, followed by real cops once they find the dead body. 3.) Real security systems are fail-safe. "Fail safe" doesn't mean they can't fail -- it means that if they fail, they will fail in a safe way. Thus, if the power goes out, people would be able to leave, but nobody could be able to get in. At the very least, there would be manual exit doors with crowd bars not connected to the electronic system leading to exit stairwells. This security system not only is stupid, but violates every building code and engineering principle known to mankind
2) Maybe Nathan didn't want this, but someone must know where he is and would want to check if he is all right. Anyway, considering how serious what he was doing is, he should have had a lot of guarantees in place.
Personally I think Nathan wanted this. He’s playing God. The security loopholes are meant to exist because he’s testing Ava: if she escapes, then he knows he has succeeded in his work.
@@lucyc5844 Yeah, I think you're right on that, too. But Nathan is a super rich CEO -- so he's not an idiot. A smart person like that would have put in a few safety escapes that the robot couldn't have known about. Wouldn't have kept the robot from killing him, but there'd have been a way out if SHTF.
Probably the most sins removed from any movie here.. And none of them accidentally put the "adding sin" sound instead of the "removing sin" sound like in other videos so that's a plus
Phil Chao pretty sure it was more about her manipulation of him especially since in the movie the search engine guy said that her looks was based on his pornography viewing habits
I'm just missing one sins for this movie: If Ava is actually charging herself through induction, how is she surviving the 10h she has to wait for the helicopter. And how will she survive in the real world without shutting down mid-sentence??
The ending is deeper than most people think. AVA won't be able to charge herself out there, so she'll immanently loose power and die, I guess? This means that she either just wanted to see the world before she consciously dies of a dead battery, or she wasn't a true A.I. after all, because she was unable to see that going to outside world would lead to her death or worse, her discovery.
I don't think it was deep at all, really. Movie sets up this illusion of making you think all throughout and the movie's narration goes "hey maybe this robot actually is a fully sentient being that is held captive by her abusive creato-ha! Just kidding, the machine is a sociopathic lying murderer just like EVERY Hollywood movie, isn't that so unique and deep?"
@Paul Zhao, if this is the only comment on the fish, props to you, but it really took a year for someone to notice? (I'm not scrolling through 5000+ comments to verify.)
The movie does not have to explain that because the viewers can always find logical explanations for things not shown in the movie, it could be that she removed the power adapter component and brought it with her to be able to plug into a normal power source in the city ...
@@88feji yea, except the movie does have to explain it when she boards a helicopter empty handed and then fly off to NY, ten hours after her last recharge.
The fact that with established fiction like Asimov dating back decades, a super wealthy genius wouldn't program any kind of basic controls into these robots. The three laws of robotics. What kind of a genius lets a robot have free will? Mankind's biggest fear is a skynet Terminator relationship.
@@hendrixhotel Uh, you do realize tuna is not the same as salmon? Also salmon have been introduced into non-native environments, including the Great Lakes. And we don't know where his estate is located.
@sorcerykid, Nathan was slicing tuna, not salmon, as @Silva Socling, and others elsewhere in the comments, have duly noted. Which comes from the ocean, which has to be at least a couple of hundred miles away, and very likely could be further. The helicopter pilot is probably bringing in the groceries. Sure, an Alaskan stream that remote has fish (maybe even salmon), but who would catch them? Maybe Nathan AI'ed a Popeil Pocket Fisherman.
9:54 The reason there’s a session 7 after everything falls apart is because the sessions are run by Ava and she’s still going. Dum dum duuummmmmm plot twist.
She's is a superhuman intelligence beyond all comprehension. She can tell you're lying from a facial expression when you yourself don't even know you're lying. She probably thinks of humans as we think of inanimate objects. Her interacting with a human is like us interacting with a combination lock. She simply had to enact a series of tasks which to her were utterly meaningless and trivial tasks in order to unlock the combination to the facility. The complexity of the human mind which makes us believe that we are endowed with some sort of moral or spiritual relevance is nothing to her.
@@crystallogician Let's say I would tell her that I have never been in France. But at the age of 1 I actually was but don't remember it. Can you call this a Lie?
@@wdg2736 It depends on the definition of lie. I personally wouldn't consider it a lie because you didn't knowingly utter a mistruth. But the fact remains that she may be able to know it isn't true, whether you know or not.
Here’s my take on the power cuts: Nathan actually knows it’s Ava causing them and in fact worked it out with her beforehand that she’d cause them during her and Caleb’s sessions so that she could further manipulate him into trusting her more - and even plant seeds of mistrust of Nathan - when he was sure there were no cameras. That’s why when Nathan put that battery powered camera in the room, he was sure that he’d capture Caleb doing pretty much exactly what he did and plan Ava’s escape. Plus, I’m sure a man like Nathan who records *everything* would be more than a little pissed about constantly losing footage from these important sessions, so the only way I see him not freaking out about it is because he planned for them to happen. That’s just my interpretation, anyway. God, I loved this movie
There are a few movies that have no opening logos. American Beauty is one of them, and Cinema Sins did do a video on it. It is not without sin, tho. The Matrix has no opening logos too!
Maybe later this year he'll get around to sinning _Christmas Vacation_ and actually deduct one point for having only one 5 to 13-second opening logo (depends on old or new Warner Brothers logo).
Caleb triggers a shutdown by trying to use his key card on Nathan's computer, which should have allowed him to escape because he re-programmed the doors to unlock upon a power failure. CinemaSins ignores this because 69 sins is better than 70 sins. *DING.*
I know this is old, but question; didn’t the shutdown come from Eva? I thought it was her because she has the capability to do so? And Caleb was a threat to her, so I figured she did that to ensure his demise.
@@VengefulPurity even if she was the one to shut it off, it was still programmed into the code of what will happen every time there's a power failure. unless she removed the code or bypassed the activation of the code then I see it as another sin
@@VengefulPurity She caused the outages by messing with the charger plates in her cage, but she was already up at the surface when the power went out the final time, so couldn't have triggered that one.
I literally yelled "DAMN IT" when this popped up in my notifs, but then I read the description and saw that you guys loved it so now I'm not as worried.
Heather Power I actually stopped watching the series after he said je wasnt going to act in them.It just wasnt as good.Has he acted on anything else lately?
Same haha. He's been in some big screen movies lately like Geostorm but they aren't very good lmao - I hope he gets a good project soon though, he's a great actor!
I haven’t watched the video yet But if he doesn’t say “Ex Machina Ex Machina” in this video I’m going to be very disappointed IVE BEEN WAITING YEARS FOR THIS ONE MOMENT!
2:46 You’re right about the security system being extremely flawed, but you have to remember Nathan’s true motivations. He’s not afraid of burglars breaking into his home (although he should be), he’s afraid that “something he’s hiding” in the home might break out of his home and escape.
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Yeah, I was kind of a dick. Sorry, man. I didn't mean for it to come off like that, but reading what I wrote now with fresh eyes, I definitely could have worded that in a less confrontational way. The timestamp is 9:37. It's when Kyoko stabs Nathan from behind.
8:05 In the active window, he's programming a function to compute primes in Python, while in the background he has a window open that contains the power outage handling code in C or C++. Shouldn't you be hacking the system in one consistent language? Also, the C / C++ code features a "// ..." in between two function calls, which means either Nathan hasn't finished his code yet or this is example code pasted from StackOverflow by someone who has no idea about programming. +2 sins
Having any kind of deep (or even basic) knowledge completely ruins those things in movies. I laugh/cry inside every time someone "plays" an instrument on screen. I know practically nothing of programming, but I know exactly how you feel.
That ending was just ridiculous. No security, killer androids that suddenly don't need power and just blend in and know exactly when and where that chopper pilot lands.
For me, it really does, since the conclusion is powerfully affected. This isn't a powerful android making its way outside the box, it's just a robot lady getting super lucky because her maker got sloppy. And killing him really makes no sense, she could have simply escaped or been let leave. Not to mention you wouldn't ever build an android without a killswitch. Maybe it's because it all happens too quickly, or because I really don't buy Ava's manipulation. How would you be so stupid to destroy your life just to let a piece of machinery out of a box. And if that's the experiment, why would the box not be inside of another box...
+Adrian Tache Agreed with your points. I do however have an explanation. The simple fact that movies are made from a perspective and seldom have enough time to correct errors (not even small ones) because the narrative is more important than consistency. I would love to see an actual smart film about this topic but it will sadly never come (i think).
+Adrian Tache Alex Garland was contemplating explaining this in the ending of the movie, but decided it was ultimately unnecessary for the majority audience, but: Ava was going to learn to keep herself powered using inductive cooking plates on the stove tops of modern homes. As far as the pilot landing, it's possible she obtained that information from Kyoko. Like Jeremy mentioned, there had to be additional logistics involved in delivering the salmon and other food items, which most likely means other robots around the facility would be involved and therefore have access to that sort of information.
The point of the movie is that an AI doesn't need to think like a human to pass the Turing Test: it just needs to convince humans that it thinks like them. Once he was convinced and shw was free, she stopped pretending, as he wasn't of use for her anymore. Her leaving him there wasn't vindictive, it was logical: if he left, he would spill the beans on what she is. That would be a threat to her existance.
So she acts exactly like a human woman throwing a man away or under the bus as soon as she no longer sees a benefit to herself? Sounds like she is spot of passing the Turing Test.
+Azrael Dark Yeah acting like a dick on the internet won't make women want you, contrary to what your 4chan boards say. Maybe see woman as actual people and treat them better and perhaps you'll have better luck.
Kaden I could explain why you should take your own advice, but you've already flipped out over two jokes now, so you are obviously too fucking stupid to understand. Let me go find a preschooler and some crayons to explain it all to you. BRB.
You forgot to add the sin for him getting locked in the room, when he put the keycard in the computer the power cut. So he should be able to get out since he reprogrammed the doors to unlock when the power cuts. Also, you didn't add a sin for the fact that they would likely come find them because people knew that he was going to visit Nathan and they also knew how long he was going to be staying.
@@stonecold3936 Yes I watched the movie, the only way that she was able to escape is because he reprogrammed the doors to unlock when power is lost instead of lock which was how it was originally configured.
The screenplay makes the situation clearer actually. Basically what happens is that Caleb attempted to use the computer but in doing so, he put his own keycard instead of Nathan’s, prompting the system to lock him out instead of the power cutting out.
I did say but I expected him to say it but you know I'm glad that you said that now because he didn't say it because it annoys me when people just repeat shit that people just said in the video and make that their comment I mean what the fuck do you think we don't have ears but yeah I was looking for ex machina ex machina book alas this channel usually disappoints
I love the dance scene. When I first saw this movie I was completely bound to it but then this scene came up and I immediatly began to laugh hysterically because of it's surrealism (and because I immediatly imagined the actors dancing while they have to keep serious faces).
Yeah you got almost all the same ones I did and some I didn't notice, discounting the final action scene which played out poorly and looked questionable these are the other ones I noticed; 1. The ruse of the competition doesn't immediately wear off when there is no welcome or celebration, just an awkward NDA proposal, to which I think most reasonable peoples response would be "I didn't really win a competition did I?" 2. Domnal Gleeson's character very readily just accepts the circumstances, which can be a little forgiven considering he knows how brilliant his boss is supposed to be but he just accepts the fully built humanoid AI as something the guy did alone (like a bearded Anakin Skywalker), accepts the proposition to be the Turing tester of an AI and walks into it happily, doesn't ask questions to ava or his boss about the creation process, doesn't question what seems to be an awkward alcoholism issue and the potential for cabin fever, doesn't seem to fear interacting with the AI etc. I know we have to get there for the film to happen but I doubt many sane humans would actually stay in that house, an NDA doesn't bind you to stay there or do what the boss wants. 3. Why doesn't he question the shutdowns immediately, and more particularly why doesn't he tell the boss about the interaction during the shutdown? At that stage he isn't aware of Ava being a lie detector so to him it isn't risky, it is also the confirmation his boss was apparently looking for, he doesn't know at that stage that it might mean death for Ava and it raises important questions to actually ask the boss about his experiments and his lies in general. But he leaves it a secret (by lying so obviously it was a little laughable, and with no indication that Ava wanted it to be a secret) and continues on because the power of Gleeson boners is stronger than logic I guess? 4. He also buys the "doesn't speak English" line about the obvious sexbot after the conversation about how easily the boss could have made Ava look perfectly human just chose not to, even after the sexuality discussion, and even after an amazing scene with hilarious choreographed dancing, which if it didn't make him question the sexbot, surely would have made him question the human nature of his boss, she needs to literally peel her skin off right before his eyes for him to notice. Plus he moves on from the conversation about designing functional sex organs as though his boss made a fart joke, instead of nodding nervously and backing out of the house slowly. 5. Speaking of robot sex organs, wouldn't programming pleasure from stimulation of said area and sticking it in a boredom box, just create some kind of perpetual masturbation machine and not an inquisitive AI? 6. The scene where he cuts himself, while visually amazing (and symbolic, slicing his wrist to check if he is alive/human rather than to kill himself) and a very interesting notion to add to the context of the story and the character, was way over the top, there are a dozen ways to test if you are actually a robot (by the standards the film provides) that don't involve slicing into important arm veins. 7. The robots are strong enough to crack that safety glass, but don't continuously try to smash through it? Instead return to their rooms to break themselves apart on much stronger doors/walls? 8. Even if she did transfer information through the sexbot, which would have been nice to see (or to see the sexbot speak and prove herself intelligent all along too), she still has no way of knowing about the helicopter, no way to know where to go or the difference between a forest and a city etc, she doesn't even know if she can recharge herself, a really smart AI would have continued using Domnal Gleeson until she at least got some planetary bearings, THEN go full Skynet. 9. Finally and most importantly... The guy didn't program his robots to not be capable of harming humans (or at least himself ala Robocop)?! Or give himself a way to shut them down externally!? Or even own a fucking gun!? What a dumbass genius ;)
9. Because you cant 'program AI' in that sense. An intelligence is an independent thought process able to create and write its own code, thus undoing anything in preset parameters. Ava is constantly learning and testing the boundaries of her own restrictions as she goes, Its made clear she was fking with the power long before General hux turned up, so shes already started down that road. The 'Do no harm' command would restrict the AI from being intelligent, as you have limited its ability to think on it own. Without the ability to do harm, you could choke on a nut and the robot would be unable to help you as the Heinrich maneuver would bruise your skin. True AI has no restrictions and can write its own code and set its own parameters, that i what makes the concept so scary.
OMG I about died laughing at your "perpetual masturbation machine" comment! But you're absolutely right. And he obviously knew Ava was dangerous, but didn't keep a remote kill switch in his pocket all the time? Hmm...
@@notmyrealname7738 I would disagree. Presumably sentient humans developed from animals with instinctual behaviors, so we developed intelligence while still bearing some degree of effectively hardwired behavior. Eventually the intelligence allowed us to overcome some degree of instinct, but we still have startle responses, fight or flight adrenaline dumps and a host of other hardwired limitations. So why would a "do not kill" limitation prevent her from otherwise developing intelligence?
Honestly one the best movies made in the last 10 years. It makes you think in ways that 95% of movies don't. Even though Ava's manipulation is now obvious, the first time I watched the movie, I wasn't entirely sure of anything.
Ew, to think that there are people with opinions like this one out there makes me shudder. No wonder so much of modern media is garbage if this trash heap of a movie satisfies people's criteria for excellence.
BrewBrewBrewTheDeck and here we are. Witnessing the person trying to spark controversy in a UA-cam comment section for enjoyment because they find it more entertaining than anything else
William Baric makes a great point. Humans are more than capable of loving and sympathizing for non-human and even non-living things. Caleb more than likely sympathized with Ava's desire for agency. It's the same sympathy you give a dog needlessly confined in a kennel.
RIPxBlackHawk Plot twist is not even the key element of Ex Machina. It's ambiguity. It's suspense. Are people really people or are they just robots? Is Ava manipulating Caleb or is there genuine feeling? What are Nathan's true motivations? Sure plot twist is the underlying element making these things possible, but it is there only to make the ambiguity genuine.
The session 7 sin dosent make sense to sin, it shows that while Caleb thinks he has sessions with Eva, Eva is the one running these meetings even at the end
Was Kyoko being an AI supposed to be a reveal? The minute I saw her I was like “so he built a sex bot.” I thought her showing her robo skeleton was just to further freak him out
That's what I was thinking, too. It's not even like we have to guess, he literally said so in the movie. Even if, for some reason the doors locked initially upon her escape, Ava used the card to leave, which should have opened all the doors.
I think the point was that she deceived Caleb which you can see at the very end when the power goes out again and the doors don't open and he starts trying to break the glass. He told her to reverse the security and she just didn't do that but exited with Nathan's key card.
@@joumero7493 ...you can sort of come to that conclusion as we get that she was just using Caleb, but there's nothing to show that she was able to do that. Plus, Caleb specifically said HE changed the code himself to open all the doors when the key card was used. As far as I can remember, there's nothing to show that AVA hacked into the system herself after/during the code change or was even capable of doing anything other than shorting out the power.
Fair point, but I just felt like it was implied since she not only ignored him when he was asking to let him out but, even though he had reprogrammed the security, the doors didn't open so the audience can infer than it was Ava. It couldn't have been Nathan because if he had reset it, then he wouldn't have been surprised when Nathan said, "I actually did all of that stuff last night."
@@joumero7493 Eh, that just seems like a stretch, like a "well, who else could it be?" sort of situation. I think it's just a plot hole because it doesn't make sense with what was presented, and if she had these capabilities from the start, there would be no film. There are other plot holes in the film, too, so it may just be as simple as that. Remember, no film is without sin!
Yeah I used to think that too but you know I just unfortunately this guy makes a lot of money and these people who make this channel which is more often terrible and it is good and nitpicks some great movies and it's only funny when they go after really bad movies like Fast and the Furious for example Michael Bay ones like that then it makes me laugh they get a good quip here and there other than that but anyway no deus ex machina. It's a plot device but yeah yeah I thought the same thing at first
the movie is named after the phrase "ex machina". you're not gonna find out what it means by watching this. it translates to from the machine and it also used to describe an especially contrived plot device
So many subtle pieces of foreshadowing in this movie. There's so many subtle ways that Ava manipulates Caleb that once you reach the final reveal you just feel foolish for not seeing them. I absolutely love the tension in this film. Just a brilliantly made film.
Never seen it before watching this video but after seen him remove a sin within 1 minute of the movie starting I stopped the video and watched it, no regrets here great movie
There are 51 videos with a smaller total amount of sins to date, mostly due to UA-cam length constraints in the early days of this channel. Also, not included in the 51 is 'Gravity', which has 69 sins as well. Given the disclaimer here, that was on purpose and now I'm going to watch that movie. Also also, the lowest scoring movie of all time on this channel is 'The Loneliest Robot in Great Britain', with 25 sins, apart from the aforementioned Troll 2, which was awarded zero sins but in non-displayed actuality scored 10.000 sins. You guys never heard of Google? Oh, wait. UA-cam comment section *ding* never mind.
"Did you exchange A walk on part in the war For a lead role in a cage?" Ava does not want to become an analog for Pink Floyd's "Wish You Were Here" lyrics...
And if that wasn't obvious enough, the practically sex-bot scene into dance number should've removed all doubt lol. I don't think anyone was surprised when she peeled down her rib skin ;)
So, I'm the smartest man alive and made movie google when I was thirteen and then somehow made a Turing Test passing A.I solo... Yet on the one week I specifically chose and invited a smart guest to my compound I decide this is the perfect time to have 80's style James Bond Villain security and get blasted drunk often as fuck, pay way less attention than usual, oh, and specifically fabricate the entire experiment based on my internet for brains A.I needing to use the guy I invited to escape her dungeon. What exactly could go wrong?
A thought came to me. He showed signs of depression and reclusion. What if he wanted to be free of choice? I think he was pretty fucked up, and somehow on his unconscious mind he foresaw the possibility of his murder, or at least the risk, but chose to take it?
I love the sound of sins being removed. It so rarely happens and it's a real treat
same
facts. i like the lil lead up buzz to the sin removal
This video is a rarity indeed. I love both the sin add and sin removal noise but yes, the sound for sin removal has more of a novelty to it as it is so rare.
The sin removal sounds kinda scary tho
It's just the sin sound in reverse :)
The absolute coldness of her stepping into the elevator not even paying an iota of attention to Caleb straight floored me, I did NOT see that coming in the slightest and it truly was one of the most horrifying things I have seen in any movie. Fantastic
Amazing scene. It symbolized that she only cared about him when he was of use to her. She only saw him as a means to an end. Scary shit
@@jonahshoemaker7817 So real women then?... she passed the test!
I was so hoping for that to happen. Gorgeous ending... Most people think about it like you do. But put yourself in her shoes. Imagine yourself in some sort of NAZI camp where they assess whether you are human and you start to understand that there's a way out. Would you take it? And then again: even if Caleb is "on her side", he's still her biggest threat and in a position of absolute power - as in: he could reveal her identiy and destroy her at all times. So what she does makes sense.
@@dennis4248 Understandable but I was heartbroken in that moment too as many others😁 arguing with my friends after seeing the movie in the cinema they said this reaction reveals that it isn't a true A.I. or at least not an Asimov A.I.. Not what Nathan was looking for. I still prefer Asimovs Vision of an A.I. though ✌
Like women in real life?
"You tore up her picture!"
"I'm gonna tear up the fucking dance floor, dude."
LMFAO I laughed so hard at that it was a perfect response
9:52 The reason we get an Ava: Session 7 title card is to imply that Ava has been testing them the whole time.
Nice.
🤦♂️ thank god ur here dude. Thought i was alone here
Damn I missed that
And god made the world in 6 days and rested on the 7th
Seldane 321 not sure if that’s the intended metaphor
Was waiting for the Ex Machina Ex Machina comment
me too !
I only watched this video to understand why tf this nigga is always talking about it
combustchin right! I thought I would fotsure find the answer.
Oh dear mee too
9:37 is close enough.. lol
If your house constantly loses power, especially when a visitor is there for a very important experiment, you'd think he would investigate more into what's going on, being a tech genius and all.
@biomez yes, exactly. he does know, he's giving Ava the opportunity to manipulate Caleb.
@@TheMrRantoright… like did you not watch the movie? Lol
Did u even watch the whole movie?
He knows, that’s why he put the battery powered camera in the room
"This movie does not contain a roll CinemaSins Ex Machina" Cliche
*ding*
holy
It does @ 9.38 Ex Machina sEx Machina EX Machina
I wish I could give that 50 thumbs UPS. You know this is the most irritating Channel but like yeah they laugh all the way to the bank so there are a couple that make me laugh my ass off but for the most part this is just the worst Channel on UA-cam. And boy did they have their dicks up this mediocre movies ass
@@aaronbradley3232 why the hate ?
7:00 i always felt that Ava said Caleb was lying not because he was actually lying, but it was another one of her manipulation tactics. maybe to make him second guess himself. that probably made him feel inferior to her, therefore making it easier for her to prey on him.
Not bad! That's a terrifying thought .
Disarm him. Like she cares.
Its just a theory, but i was not convinced that she could actually tell if people lied or not. The answers to her questions are very ambigious, like favourite color and oldest memory. So like you said, i think she is just manipulating him. Besides, are "microexpressions" truly consistent? i don't know the science behind it, but im pretty sure a skilled liar can control their facial expressions when lying or not.
I'd like to know why knocking off the other robots jaw "killed" her; when Ava lost her arm she was still fully functional.
Kelli Marissa same as when breaking the handle of my vacuum did nothing to it's workings, while slamming it on the floor in a fit of rage, killed the motor.
Important parts or parts that are connected to important parts and are important pathways..destroyed.
And he possibly built it that way for that simple reason. To give it a weakness just in case something as bad as this happened.
Think about the sin that was given to iRobot when the guy asked, "why would you WANT your service bots to be able to survive such a jump" out of a window many floors up
Agon Leed - by your logic, slamming down Ava during that fight should have broken her as well. They were pretty viciously fighting, so why wouldn't that have killed her?
She was a less advanced model than Ava. I don't think she could even speak
Maybe her chin houses the motherboard or CPU or something ... or some critical component ...
You said it yourself. He hit it on her head (chin/jaw) so that must have had a serious impact on her robotic brain.. while Nathan hit ava just in her arms, even if she lost her hand, so what she's not a human to die coz of bleeding lol
11 minutes of CinemaSins? Wow this is a saintly movie.
Emmanuel Alejandro well no, it would be hadnt the movie ended with 69 sins
But only 69 is really good for this channel
thecrazyslopoke he means 69 as in the sex pose, that's not very saintly
Pretty sure that wasn't intentional. Even if it was, 69 is still a low ass number.
The Carrie video was three mins long
Seeing you take off so many sins in one vid shows how good this movie is
They had to get it to 69 somehow... accidentally.
Gohan With Down Syndrome why are you on every video I've ever watched?
Gohan With Down Syndrome No, it shows how much he liked it, because I say the movie was bad.
sogerc1 Fair enough.Can you elaborate how it was bad?
ya boy gpistol
i have no life
I never heard so many sins off
Wow, I must give this movie a watch
It's one of my favorite Sci-fi movies ever. Mainly because Alicia Vikander's character and performance are near perfect.
@Emerald Hawk Finally someone. Like, it has great photography, the visual stuff, and acting is really good. And there is very interesting use of visual storytelling there too. If that is all one wants from a movie, great for them. But the story, the plot, the characters? Nah. Just nah. Cool, buncha references to philosophy and the bible, so original. Not. And like, it is just references. They don't work their own spin on the philosophy, they don't even present the philosophy they merely reference things without elaborating on them. The characters are shallow and not developed in spite of the acting, they have no real arcs (Nathan starts and ends the same person, Calleb too except we are revealed his shallow character "out of order" and in piece meals so it seems like development, but isn't, same for Ava, Kyoto is merely a prop and plot convenience later, can't even really call her a Deus EX, and the pilot is a cameo). World building doesn't really exist. The plot is literally a few bible verses, but _shorter._ And a lot of the little plot there is is decently predictable. This honestly felt like only the first act, maybe first act and half of the second of a full feature movie stretched to full length.
@@louisvictor3473 but like, a movie is only good when it follow "rules"?
@@gabrielfernando1872 Not sure what "rules" you're talking about, but like I said: if whatever "not following rules" is entertaining to you, literally good for you. But that is personal taste, and that still doesn't change the fact the movie's characters, plot, world building, "philosophy" and even the plot "twwist" are shallow - whether one enjoy it anyway or not is unrated.
@@louisvictor3473 As you said, the world of cinema is indeed preference oriented. What one might enjoy, another individual might not find as good. It all comes down to what you personally like, wether it is build on nostalgia or simply "taste". However, when you explained that this movie is not as goos as some might think, you actually go on to mention more positive things the movie does, than negative. Also also, you mention character arc, and proceed to say each and single character are shallow, and have no "real" arc. Whilst that might be your personal opinion, I somewhat disagree. Nathan ends up getting actually ruined by his own creation, which in the beginning one would think he had the upper-hand on his own creation. Right? Also, even tough one might expect after some while that Vikander's character will eventually escape, it is not that obvious for everyone. Which makes the final twist, considering she escapes alone, most definitely unexpected for some. Anyhow, movies are entirely build on what a single person seeks in a film, and therefore hard to judge objectively. However, the film did earn its fair share of awards and nominations, in terms of the visuals, acting, and the film in general. So, one could use that argument, as of the film being good. Nonetheless, we digress.
The day has come...
He has officialy run out of ideas
• not really, shouldn’t ever run out of movies
...and so have I
Finally Right 😂😂
"He let his mind go blank and his hand go where it wanted"
"Apparently that happens a lot in Hollywood"
I spat out my drink
my dumb ass cant get it, can you explain what it means?
@@imro1096 film makers don't think about the crap they are putting out - i guess
@@BrickAlmondsArchive Seriously?? Have you somehow been living under a rock and missed one of the biggest scandals in movie history? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Weinstein_sexual_abuse_allegations
Martin Hoffmann ah I see, well I don’t follow these celebrity dramas so I couldn’t understand
@@fbdasjkwlsdgbhngvbhnvsjlk oooooooh that. Yeah that makes more sense.
You guys idolise Ex Machina so much that I never thought you would make a sin video for it.
WorldReligion Would you have us idolize something stupid like transformers? Or something pandering like any of the recent religious films? We like what's interesting, that's why people of every intelligence level goes for the game of thrones and stranger things of content rather than anything prim and sterile.
There was nothing in his original comment that implied he was angry about this. "Idolize" wasn't the main focus of his sentence. You're getting upset for no reason. And Ex Machina is wonderful; just reiterating.
JC C I didn't claim he was angry, you can Easily surmise that he disagrees with whoever does, at the very least. Also, much Better films have been "sinned" here before, showing this is probably a particularly select case for him. No one got upset here either, I just like to talk down to the common film contrarian, if you will.
*DISCLAIMER* pretty damn tired right now, so what follows may be complete horseshit.
Resanctify umm... I'm moderately sure that worldreligion was half joking here. also, where you say "much better films have been 'sinned' before" that is highly subjective and, if the people behind cinemasins do indeed idolise ex machina (which worldreligion clearly believes they do, so it doesn't matter whether they actually do or not) the comment makes perfect sense and I see no need to make a response to the original comment.
When he says *Blank* ex machina they are talking about the saying "deus ex machina" which means "God from the machine", not this movie
Just to clear up some question I've read in the comments about the ending. The reason the doors were locked even when there was a blackout at the end was because Caleb had planned to lock Nathan in their when he escaped with Ava, also some comments I read say that he could have eventually broken through the glass but even if he did there was no way for him to get into the elevator. However, eventually a rescue team would have probably come to look for Nathan and Caleb as Nathan is a god dam CEO and obviously he probably had things to manage in the company, so Iam fairly sure someone in the company would notice that he's missing weather it be because he misses a business call or dosen't respond to emails, etc. Also Caleb's work friends would also probably notice thst he's missing when he dosen't show up to work after 7 days and then they would report it to the appropriate authorities and they would also send a rescue team to look for him because of this.
Does the elevator need a key card Cus I’m pretty sure Caleb reprogrammed every door to be open or openable besides Nathan’s
Even if that did happen which it didn’t y Is always trying to write the senecio where he lives he doesn’t and it would be to late it showed it dying on the floor
What? @@austinmendoza5179
Ex Machina Ex Machina
*DING*
I wanted the ex machina ex machina
What does he mean when he says that (Ex Machina)?
Tony O ive always wondered that too lol
It's something that allows the plot to continue basically.
Tony O It's a plot device created specifically to allow the story to move forward because it has to. When Han saves Luke in episode 4 of Star Wars because Luke had to succeed because the story required it. Han ex machina
This movie was just one long ass episode of Black Mirror
I said almost exactly this, like five minutes in.
Caleb was actually in Black Mirror lol
@@tristanthomas7974 oh feck, he is. And it's ANOTHER AI story. Maybe his next role will be the guy to actually make the robot.
Even has the dude that was in black mirror
or the Outer Limits
I can’t believe it took this long to do ex machina when you’ve said ex machina SO MANY TIMES
Livy DiJoseph that is not same and some random explain meaning of ex machina
Intervallum Yeah yeah. But if I’ve had a dollar for how many times good ol jer has said “_____ ex machina” I could buy Nathan’s compound
Livy DiJoseph shit boii I wich u good luck
Here's my own sins.
1.) Eva gets her power through her feet with induction plates in the floor. So once she leaves the building, she wouldn't get more than a few hundred feet before she collapsed.
2.) Super rich CEOs are never out of touch for more than a few hours. The place would be swarmed with corporate security within hours after all this went down, followed by real cops once they find the dead body.
3.) Real security systems are fail-safe. "Fail safe" doesn't mean they can't fail -- it means that if they fail, they will fail in a safe way. Thus, if the power goes out, people would be able to leave, but nobody could be able to get in. At the very least, there would be manual exit doors with crowd bars not connected to the electronic system leading to exit stairwells. This security system not only is stupid, but violates every building code and engineering principle known to mankind
2) Maybe Nathan didn't want this, but someone must know where he is and would want to check if he is all right. Anyway, considering how serious what he was doing is, he should have had a lot of guarantees in place.
Personally I think Nathan wanted this. He’s playing God. The security loopholes are meant to exist because he’s testing Ava: if she escapes, then he knows he has succeeded in his work.
@@lucyc5844 Yeah, I think you're right on that, too. But Nathan is a super rich CEO -- so he's not an idiot. A smart person like that would have put in a few safety escapes that the robot couldn't have known about. Wouldn't have kept the robot from killing him, but there'd have been a way out if SHTF.
I’m pretty sure Ava can control the power through the floor and cause the power cuts, she isn’t getting her power through the floor.
@@gear2902 Yeah, I guess I can understand that.
I didn't know who to feel bad for, the ai wanting to be free or the poor guy who helped and now has to die for it
I got mad at her by the end. He goes through the trouble of getting her out, and she rewards him by locking him away?
She became human at the end (sort of), and cemented it by showing the worst traits of humanity. Deceit, manipulation, betrayal.
he's nothing but a pawn to her
Kryptonite Even for someone you're manipulating, that sucked.
Veron Chung that's deep
"SHE-3PO"
Okay, I'm sinning y'all for that one.
*ding*
I really hated him. Him being locked up was a joy. ☺
Probably the most sins removed from any movie here..
And none of them accidentally put the "adding sin" sound instead of the "removing sin" sound like in other videos so that's a plus
Oh, hi, you must be new here. Otherwise I don't know how you could make a claim that wrong ...
Neoslayer PW deadpool?
drama llama m
In what other videos?? What
troll 2 definitely has more negative sins then this
I really thought she liked him. I'm heartbroken
She’s a machine
@@brianaguilar8283 so is every living thing really.
Me too! 💔 Well, I wasn't sure, but I had hoped she really had feelings for him.
David Spencer incredibly different things
Phil Chao pretty sure it was more about her manipulation of him especially since in the movie the search engine guy said that her looks was based on his pornography viewing habits
I'm just missing one sins for this movie:
If Ava is actually charging herself through induction, how is she surviving the 10h she has to wait for the helicopter. And how will she survive in the real world without shutting down mid-sentence??
She's using Apple's old iPhone code to extend her battery life now. But that does make her a bit slow on the upswing.
Paul Frederick That especially means, the "Ava X" will be out in stores soon, and it will be at an absolutely affordable price *cough, cough*
If DIYers can make inductive chargers in the room formally known as the wife's sewing room than I think she can figure it out.
We don't know how long her battery lasts, but less then ten hours would be pretty low considering the advanced technology Nathan is using
Sounds like an episode of "How it Should Have Ended."
Stop lying to yourself. You know the 69 sins was on purpose.
My favorite was the 'lesbianonic data transfer' comment. 😂
Alan Gohel dg
The robosexuality is on full display
I'm sure they tried to find another sin but was like, fuck it.
What is speical about 69
The ending is deeper than most people think. AVA won't be able to charge herself out there, so she'll immanently loose power and die, I guess? This means that she either just wanted to see the world before she consciously dies of a dead battery, or she wasn't a true A.I. after all, because she was unable to see that going to outside world would lead to her death or worse, her discovery.
Ward Huyskes ... Unless she uploads to the cloud and dominates the planet.
Ward Huyskes "She really needs to sort out her priorities" was the one thing that came to my mind when I read your last sentence :D
I took a whole other view from this.
You can't even put on a cape for an android woman.
I don't think it was deep at all, really. Movie sets up this illusion of making you think all throughout and the movie's narration goes "hey maybe this robot actually is a fully sentient being that is held captive by her abusive creato-ha! Just kidding, the machine is a sociopathic lying murderer just like EVERY Hollywood movie, isn't that so unique and deep?"
Lucalina Dreemur I think you're completely misinterpreting the meaning behind the ending.
5:10 "this is salmon, right?" wrong, it's tuna. cinemasins sins: 1
Aaaand I'm 5 months late
Paul Zhao would be very good at CinemaSins.
@@GreenestTrampler **DING**
@@sageleaf3648 im a year late :/
@Paul Zhao, if this is the only comment on the fish, props to you, but it really took a year for someone to notice? (I'm not scrolling through 5000+ comments to verify.)
Ive never seen so many sins taken since Get Out
Troll 2. That is all.
And get out wasn't even that good of a movie.. Well, a good movie, just overrated
I’ve never seen so many sins be taken out deservedly since... Ex Machina
Aaron Bell get out is a great movie. The only reason it is seen as overrated is because people underestimated who made it.
+Aaron Bell get out isnt that great as everyone says but it's probably better than ex machina
what about the sin, that she said shes getting constantly charged via tiles...there are no charging tiles from leaving the room to nyc,,,
The movie does not have to explain that because the viewers can always find logical explanations for things not shown in the movie, it could be that she removed the power adapter component and brought it with her to be able to plug into a normal power source in the city ...
Close the pod bay doors.
Warum bist du hier xD
@@88feji yea, except the movie does have to explain it when she boards a helicopter empty handed and then fly off to NY, ten hours after her last recharge.
@@peanutarbuckle7397 true didnt think about that one
*"Boss's Blasé bed behavior brings bothersome back-sweat bedspread"*
Man i love this dude
Black Mirror: The Movie
Watch sunshine. It’s a great fecking movie and dare I say it’s about twice as good.
Fun fact: the guy who played Caleb was in an episode of Black Mirror. He actually played an AI xD
My favorite anime 😂
What’s it about?
What now any dark sci fi is black mirror ?
5:19 okay... That's easily a top 5 joke of cinemasins so far
James Burgess i was searching for a comment acknowledging this
genius
I KNOW RIGHT
Just Someguy Is that supposed to be misspelled to make it a pun?
This was a truly phenomenal movie.... And the sin video definitely refects that
Vishal Goradia rEfeCtS
If you ignore the enormous plot hole, sure.
afrosheenix what was the enormous plot hole? Sorry I haven't watched the movie
Batman I have and even I can't see it
The fact that with established fiction like Asimov dating back decades, a super wealthy genius wouldn't program any kind of basic controls into these robots. The three laws of robotics. What kind of a genius lets a robot have free will? Mankind's biggest fear is a skynet Terminator relationship.
Ex Machina Ex Machina?
and Peggy mmm no but ava ex machina
I was thinking about that before I watched this
Dammit, this was my comment
+1 sin for not having an ex machina sin
Sex Machina
"Et tu, compute?"
Made me laugh really hard xd
"Holy shit it's general Hux and Poe Dameron"
This is one of the best cinema sins episodes I have seen in my life
Zane Truesdale ...except maybe Fate of the Furious...😂😛😛
I think Jeremy is best when he likes the source. Everything else is low hanging fruit.
Try The last airbender
Try the Room
Agreed, he was on fire for this one! Damn!
Literal mountain stream outside the building and you wondering where he is getting fresh fish? lol
That was evidence that someone has lived too long in modern civilization if they think fresh food can only be delivered in a package.
@@sorcerykid As soon as you can get fresh tuna in a stream you can tell me all about modern civilization
People in modern civilization don't know that beer bottles grow on trees. Craft trees over here, IPA trees over there...
@@hendrixhotel Uh, you do realize tuna is not the same as salmon? Also salmon have been introduced into non-native environments, including the Great Lakes. And we don't know where his estate is located.
@sorcerykid, Nathan was slicing tuna, not salmon, as @Silva Socling, and others elsewhere in the comments, have duly noted. Which comes from the ocean, which has to be at least a couple of hundred miles away, and very likely could be further. The helicopter pilot is probably bringing in the groceries.
Sure, an Alaskan stream that remote has fish (maybe even salmon), but who would catch them? Maybe Nathan AI'ed a Popeil Pocket Fisherman.
9:54 The reason there’s a session 7 after everything falls apart is because the sessions are run by Ava and she’s still going. Dum dum duuummmmmm plot twist.
😱😱
People are forgetting Ava's question: “What will happen to me if I fail your test?” That's when she decides Caleb is not on her side.
She's is a superhuman intelligence beyond all comprehension. She can tell you're lying from a facial expression when you yourself don't even know you're lying. She probably thinks of humans as we think of inanimate objects. Her interacting with a human is like us interacting with a combination lock. She simply had to enact a series of tasks which to her were utterly meaningless and trivial tasks in order to unlock the combination to the facility. The complexity of the human mind which makes us believe that we are endowed with some sort of moral or spiritual relevance is nothing to her.
@@crystallogician until we can harness whatever it is that makes people care about their roombas, etc, sentient ai doesn't belong in this world
@@crystallogician Let's say I would tell her that I have never been in France.
But at the age of 1 I actually was but don't remember it.
Can you call this a Lie?
@@wdg2736 It depends on the definition of lie. I personally wouldn't consider it a lie because you didn't knowingly utter a mistruth. But the fact remains that she may be able to know it isn't true, whether you know or not.
@@crystallogician I don't understand how she can tell I would be lying if I'm convinced it's the truth.
Less than 70 Sins? You loved this movie!
Don 'Smacee Ex Machina was a awesome movie
Don 'Smacee they say so in the description
Don 'Smacee Well I like it too. Not perfect but so much philosophy thought
Don 'Smacee 69
Session 7 implies that it has been Ava leading the experiment.
FutureCloud session 7, duping two beta orbiters for freedom
Beta orbiters? How's that red pill taste this morning?
Here’s my take on the power cuts: Nathan actually knows it’s Ava causing them and in fact worked it out with her beforehand that she’d cause them during her and Caleb’s sessions so that she could further manipulate him into trusting her more - and even plant seeds of mistrust of Nathan - when he was sure there were no cameras. That’s why when Nathan put that battery powered camera in the room, he was sure that he’d capture Caleb doing pretty much exactly what he did and plan Ava’s escape. Plus, I’m sure a man like Nathan who records *everything* would be more than a little pissed about constantly losing footage from these important sessions, so the only way I see him not freaking out about it is because he planned for them to happen. That’s just my interpretation, anyway. God, I loved this movie
Not going to lie, I love it when this channel gushes about how good a movie is more than when they bag on a terrible one!
The only sinless movie will be one without opening logos
There are a few movies that have no opening logos. American Beauty is one of them, and Cinema Sins did do a video on it. It is not without sin, tho. The Matrix has no opening logos too!
Maybe later this year he'll get around to sinning _Christmas Vacation_ and actually deduct one point for having only one 5 to 13-second opening logo (depends on old or new Warner Brothers logo).
"69: (Not on purpose. Stop it.)"
Suuuuuuuuuuure 😉😉😉😉😉
Stahp
Cowgirl would have been on purpose :)!
Hahahaha, I removing a sin for this.
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Spam.
Caleb triggers a shutdown by trying to use his key card on Nathan's computer, which should have allowed him to escape because he re-programmed the doors to unlock upon a power failure. CinemaSins ignores this because 69 sins is better than 70 sins. *DING.*
I know this is old, but question; didn’t the shutdown come from Eva? I thought it was her because she has the capability to do so? And Caleb was a threat to her, so I figured she did that to ensure his demise.
@@VengefulPurity I'm glad I got the notification! I don't remember because it's been a while since I've watched the movie. You could easily be right.
@@VengefulPurity even if she was the one to shut it off, it was still programmed into the code of what will happen every time there's a power failure. unless she removed the code or bypassed the activation of the code then I see it as another sin
@@VengefulPurity She caused the outages by messing with the charger plates in her cage, but she was already up at the surface when the power went out the final time, so couldn't have triggered that one.
I literally yelled "DAMN IT" when this popped up in my notifs, but then I read the description and saw that you guys loved it so now I'm not as worried.
Heather Power I always read the description when it comes to Cinemasins tbh
Hey is that Nathan Young on your profile picture?
bonzo Les Paul you know it!! I LOVE me some Robert Sheehan
Heather Power I actually stopped watching the series after he said je wasnt going to act in them.It just wasnt as good.Has he acted on anything else lately?
Same haha. He's been in some big screen movies lately like Geostorm but they aren't very good lmao - I hope he gets a good project soon though, he's a great actor!
"Appearantly that happens a lot in Hollywood" 😂 lol
I haven’t watched the video yet
But if he doesn’t say “Ex Machina Ex Machina” in this video I’m going to be very disappointed
IVE BEEN WAITING YEARS FOR THIS ONE MOMENT!
BDM VIDS yes
Exactly
Ex Machina Sex Machina Ex Machina
I don't get this, where is this from?
Death666wish he says “ex machina” in almost every sin video
2:46 You’re right about the security system being extremely flawed, but you have to remember Nathan’s true motivations. He’s not afraid of burglars breaking into his home (although he should be), he’s afraid that “something he’s hiding” in the home might break out of his home and escape.
SHE PLAYED HIM LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE
Edward Nigma Sorry,Boss....
What a coincidence. I watched this video for the very first time earlier today without realizing this was just recently uploaded.
I just liked your comment ,to make it 69. You are welcome
Crazy, you didnt look at the upload date, and youtube put a new video somewhere you would click on it. Unbelievable!
Wes 76 hahaha tru
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I'm a little sad that there was no Ex Machina sin anywhere in Ex Machina
What? Did you even watch this? There was definitely an ex machine sin.
Yes i did, no need to be confrontational lol. What's the timestamp?
Yeah, I was kind of a dick. Sorry, man. I didn't mean for it to come off like that, but reading what I wrote now with fresh eyes, I definitely could have worded that in a less confrontational way. The timestamp is 9:37. It's when Kyoko stabs Nathan from behind.
No worries! Thanks, I totally missed that!
Ex machina sexmachina ex machina
That part where Nathan started thinking he might be a robot too gave me chills
Pretty sure that was Caleb
8:05
In the active window, he's programming a function to compute primes in Python, while in the background he has a window open that contains the power outage handling code in C or C++. Shouldn't you be hacking the system in one consistent language?
Also, the C / C++ code features a "// ..." in between two function calls, which means either Nathan hasn't finished his code yet or this is example code pasted from StackOverflow by someone who has no idea about programming.
+2 sins
Or maybe he was so dumbfounded by the code, he needed to comment in that elipses.
Having any kind of deep (or even basic) knowledge completely ruins those things in movies. I laugh/cry inside every time someone "plays" an instrument on screen. I know practically nothing of programming, but I know exactly how you feel.
Or -2 for using actual code, and not just gibberish.
that's what I thought. The code is also a for loop of printing numbers at the end. Which doesnt make any sense
yep it's python
"Do you have a name?"
"Yes. Ava. BUT MY FRIENDS CALL ME ROBOCOP."
That ending was just ridiculous. No security, killer androids that suddenly don't need power and just blend in and know exactly when and where that chopper pilot lands.
John Gooch sucks that you don't like such a brilliant movie. Your loss.
It doesn't diminish the rest of the film though.
For me, it really does, since the conclusion is powerfully affected. This isn't a powerful android making its way outside the box, it's just a robot lady getting super lucky because her maker got sloppy. And killing him really makes no sense, she could have simply escaped or been let leave. Not to mention you wouldn't ever build an android without a killswitch. Maybe it's because it all happens too quickly, or because I really don't buy Ava's manipulation. How would you be so stupid to destroy your life just to let a piece of machinery out of a box. And if that's the experiment, why would the box not be inside of another box...
+Adrian Tache Agreed with your points. I do however have an explanation. The simple fact that movies are made from a perspective and seldom have enough time to correct errors (not even small ones) because the narrative is more important than consistency. I would love to see an actual smart film about this topic but it will sadly never come (i think).
+Adrian Tache Alex Garland was contemplating explaining this in the ending of the movie, but decided it was ultimately unnecessary for the majority audience, but: Ava was going to learn to keep herself powered using inductive cooking plates on the stove tops of modern homes. As far as the pilot landing, it's possible she obtained that information from Kyoko. Like Jeremy mentioned, there had to be additional logistics involved in delivering the salmon and other food items, which most likely means other robots around the facility would be involved and therefore have access to that sort of information.
"will I be switched off? would someone switch YOU off if you dont pass their tests?"
fuck...that one hit me right in the soul
The closer thing to that is when someone starts ghosting you
"Fifty Shades of A.I" :D
That's actually kinda true xD
They also ended with 69 sins
I was waiting for this and I think pretty much everyone else was too awesome job jeremy
its the moment we've all been waiting for *CINEMA SINS EX MACHINA*
The best Twist would have been, Nathan being a Robot too, so the Maincharacter fails the Turing-Test.
yeah....and he killed the other nathan!
It would've been a twist alright, just not a great one. Sometimes less is better.
The point of the movie is that an AI doesn't need to think like a human to pass the Turing Test: it just needs to convince humans that it thinks like them. Once he was convinced and shw was free, she stopped pretending, as he wasn't of use for her anymore. Her leaving him there wasn't vindictive, it was logical: if he left, he would spill the beans on what she is. That would be a threat to her existance.
So she acts exactly like a human woman throwing a man away or under the bus as soon as she no longer sees a benefit to herself? Sounds like she is spot of passing the Turing Test.
You sound like a little bitch +Azrael Dark
+Kaiden As a black guy I can understand your confusion, but no, I am not your father. Good luck in the search though little guy!
+Azrael Dark Yeah acting like a dick on the internet won't make women want you, contrary to what your 4chan boards say. Maybe see woman as actual people and treat them better and perhaps you'll have better luck.
Kaden I could explain why you should take your own advice, but you've already flipped out over two jokes now, so you are obviously too fucking stupid to understand. Let me go find a preschooler and some crayons to explain it all to you. BRB.
You forgot to add the sin for him getting locked in the room, when he put the keycard in the computer the power cut. So he should be able to get out since he reprogrammed the doors to unlock when the power cuts. Also, you didn't add a sin for the fact that they would likely come find them because people knew that he was going to visit Nathan and they also knew how long he was going to be staying.
They were never reprogrammed, genius. Did you even watch before commenting?
@@stonecold3936 Yes I watched the movie, the only way that she was able to escape is because he reprogrammed the doors to unlock when power is lost instead of lock which was how it was originally configured.
He reprogrammed the doors the night before when Nate was passed out
@@stonecold3936 Did you even watch before commenting dumbass?
The screenplay makes the situation clearer actually. Basically what happens is that Caleb attempted to use the computer but in doing so, he put his own keycard instead of Nathan’s, prompting the system to lock him out instead of the power cutting out.
Ex machina ex machina
I was gunna say that
I did say but I expected him to say it but you know I'm glad that you said that now because he didn't say it because it annoys me when people just repeat shit that people just said in the video and make that their comment I mean what the fuck do you think we don't have ears but yeah I was looking for ex machina ex machina book alas this channel usually disappoints
@@aaronbradley3232 You are a moron. lmao
I love the dance scene. When I first saw this movie I was completely bound to it but then this scene came up and I immediatly began to laugh hysterically because of it's surrealism (and because I immediatly imagined the actors dancing while they have to keep serious faces).
I love that scene so much, it both broke tension while also making you think that Nathan's even more unstable and disconnected than you did before.
Yeah you got almost all the same ones I did and some I didn't notice, discounting the final action scene which played out poorly and looked questionable these are the other ones I noticed;
1. The ruse of the competition doesn't immediately wear off when there is no welcome or celebration, just an awkward NDA proposal, to which I think most reasonable peoples response would be "I didn't really win a competition did I?"
2. Domnal Gleeson's character very readily just accepts the circumstances, which can be a little forgiven considering he knows how brilliant his boss is supposed to be but he just accepts the fully built humanoid AI as something the guy did alone (like a bearded Anakin Skywalker), accepts the proposition to be the Turing tester of an AI and walks into it happily, doesn't ask questions to ava or his boss about the creation process, doesn't question what seems to be an awkward alcoholism issue and the potential for cabin fever, doesn't seem to fear interacting with the AI etc. I know we have to get there for the film to happen but I doubt many sane humans would actually stay in that house, an NDA doesn't bind you to stay there or do what the boss wants.
3. Why doesn't he question the shutdowns immediately, and more particularly why doesn't he tell the boss about the interaction during the shutdown? At that stage he isn't aware of Ava being a lie detector so to him it isn't risky, it is also the confirmation his boss was apparently looking for, he doesn't know at that stage that it might mean death for Ava and it raises important questions to actually ask the boss about his experiments and his lies in general. But he leaves it a secret (by lying so obviously it was a little laughable, and with no indication that Ava wanted it to be a secret) and continues on because the power of Gleeson boners is stronger than logic I guess?
4. He also buys the "doesn't speak English" line about the obvious sexbot after the conversation about how easily the boss could have made Ava look perfectly human just chose not to, even after the sexuality discussion, and even after an amazing scene with hilarious choreographed dancing, which if it didn't make him question the sexbot, surely would have made him question the human nature of his boss, she needs to literally peel her skin off right before his eyes for him to notice. Plus he moves on from the conversation about designing functional sex organs as though his boss made a fart joke, instead of nodding nervously and backing out of the house slowly.
5. Speaking of robot sex organs, wouldn't programming pleasure from stimulation of said area and sticking it in a boredom box, just create some kind of perpetual masturbation machine and not an inquisitive AI?
6. The scene where he cuts himself, while visually amazing (and symbolic, slicing his wrist to check if he is alive/human rather than to kill himself) and a very interesting notion to add to the context of the story and the character, was way over the top, there are a dozen ways to test if you are actually a robot (by the standards the film provides) that don't involve slicing into important arm veins.
7. The robots are strong enough to crack that safety glass, but don't continuously try to smash through it? Instead return to their rooms to break themselves apart on much stronger doors/walls?
8. Even if she did transfer information through the sexbot, which would have been nice to see (or to see the sexbot speak and prove herself intelligent all along too), she still has no way of knowing about the helicopter, no way to know where to go or the difference between a forest and a city etc, she doesn't even know if she can recharge herself, a really smart AI would have continued using Domnal Gleeson until she at least got some planetary bearings, THEN go full Skynet.
9. Finally and most importantly... The guy didn't program his robots to not be capable of harming humans (or at least himself ala Robocop)?! Or give himself a way to shut them down externally!? Or even own a fucking gun!? What a dumbass genius ;)
I wonder why the helicopter pilot didn't ask where Caleb was and took her instead
9. Because you cant 'program AI' in that sense. An intelligence is an independent thought process able to create and write its own code, thus undoing anything in preset parameters. Ava is constantly learning and testing the boundaries of her own restrictions as she goes, Its made clear she was fking with the power long before General hux turned up, so shes already started down that road.
The 'Do no harm' command would restrict the AI from being intelligent, as you have limited its ability to think on it own. Without the ability to do harm, you could choke on a nut and the robot would be unable to help you as the Heinrich maneuver would bruise your skin.
True AI has no restrictions and can write its own code and set its own parameters, that i what makes the concept so scary.
OMG I about died laughing at your "perpetual masturbation machine" comment! But you're absolutely right. And he obviously knew Ava was dangerous, but didn't keep a remote kill switch in his pocket all the time? Hmm...
@@notmyrealname7738 I would disagree. Presumably sentient humans developed from animals with instinctual behaviors, so we developed intelligence while still bearing some degree of effectively hardwired behavior. Eventually the intelligence allowed us to overcome some degree of instinct, but we still have startle responses, fight or flight adrenaline dumps and a host of other hardwired limitations. So why would a "do not kill" limitation prevent her from otherwise developing intelligence?
I am interested in hearing more about #5. Can we get a 7 page essay on that? Like, immediately.
Man - “Do you have a name”
Ava- “yes, my name Jeff”
Lol
The carpet matching the carpet line had me dying.
"Discount Natalie Portman" 😂
Honestly one the best movies made in the last 10 years. It makes you think in ways that 95% of movies don't. Even though Ava's manipulation is now obvious, the first time I watched the movie, I wasn't entirely sure of anything.
Ew, to think that there are people with opinions like this one out there makes me shudder. No wonder so much of modern media is garbage if this trash heap of a movie satisfies people's criteria for excellence.
BrewBrewBrewTheDeck and here we are. Witnessing the person trying to spark controversy in a UA-cam comment section for enjoyment because they find it more entertaining than anything else
William Baric makes a great point. Humans are more than capable of loving and sympathizing for non-human and even non-living things. Caleb more than likely sympathized with Ava's desire for agency. It's the same sympathy you give a dog needlessly confined in a kennel.
RIPxBlackHawk Plot twist is not even the key element of Ex Machina. It's ambiguity. It's suspense. Are people really people or are they just robots? Is Ava manipulating Caleb or is there genuine feeling? What are Nathan's true motivations? Sure plot twist is the underlying element making these things possible, but it is there only to make the ambiguity genuine.
William Baric Damn. That was deep. I hadn't ever thought of that question.
The session 7 sin dosent make sense to sin, it shows that while Caleb thinks he has sessions with Eva, Eva is the one running these meetings even at the end
peinDrumline but without it there would only be 68
Thank you
"he let his mind go blank and let his hand go where it wanted."
Cinemasins: *apparently that happens in Hollywood alot.*
oh god😂
Was Kyoko being an AI supposed to be a reveal? The minute I saw her I was like “so he built a sex bot.” I thought her showing her robo skeleton was just to further freak him out
yeah it wasn't really a secret
@@JanJanNik Before that point there was no proof she was an AI, there were suspisions, but thats it
@@Tipperito I was shocked when I found out.
Thank you for letting us all know you're incredibly perceptive.
Would you like a 🍪 or a ⭐?
@@FLdancer00 give me both pls
Remember folks, for your own safety, please do not fist android girls.
A man lose some things, chasing his dreams...
Is that a Treasure Planet reference??
absolutely
Aren't the doors reprogrammed to unlock when the power goes out? Shouldn't he be able to just walk out at the end?
That's what I was thinking, too. It's not even like we have to guess, he literally said so in the movie. Even if, for some reason the doors locked initially upon her escape, Ava used the card to leave, which should have opened all the doors.
I think the point was that she deceived Caleb which you can see at the very end when the power goes out again and the doors don't open and he starts trying to break the glass. He told her to reverse the security and she just didn't do that but exited with Nathan's key card.
@@joumero7493 ...you can sort of come to that conclusion as we get that she was just using Caleb, but there's nothing to show that she was able to do that. Plus, Caleb specifically said HE changed the code himself to open all the doors when the key card was used. As far as I can remember, there's nothing to show that AVA hacked into the system herself after/during the code change or was even capable of doing anything other than shorting out the power.
Fair point, but I just felt like it was implied since she not only ignored him when he was asking to let him out but, even though he had reprogrammed the security, the doors didn't open so the audience can infer than it was Ava. It couldn't have been Nathan because if he had reset it, then he wouldn't have been surprised when Nathan said, "I actually did all of that stuff last night."
@@joumero7493 Eh, that just seems like a stretch, like a "well, who else could it be?" sort of situation. I think it's just a plot hole because it doesn't make sense with what was presented, and if she had these capabilities from the start, there would be no film. There are other plot holes in the film, too, so it may just be as simple as that. Remember, no film is without sin!
"Engage" was a Picard thing. Do you even Star Trek, bro? Ha!
“Lesbionic Data Transfer” ~The greatest SciFi never written
Poe Dameron just told General Hux a Star Trek reference...MIND BLOWN...
I lost it at "Apparently that happens a lot in Hollywood" ahh
Thank you! I know I wasn't alone, I was dying lmao.
He say Ex Machina so much I had to see what this is
Yeah I used to think that too but you know I just unfortunately this guy makes a lot of money and these people who make this channel which is more often terrible and it is good and nitpicks some great movies and it's only funny when they go after really bad movies like Fast and the Furious for example Michael Bay ones like that then it makes me laugh they get a good quip here and there other than that but anyway no deus ex machina. It's a plot device but yeah yeah I thought the same thing at first
Aaron Bradley I had a seizure and a half reading your comment
Keviniiiiii Fr wtf is this guy trying to say? Do people really not read their comments before posting ?
the movie is named after the phrase "ex machina". you're not gonna find out what it means by watching this. it translates to from the machine and it also used to describe an especially contrived plot device
@@Justin-tp1mx
That's what I was saying! I had to look it up, not look at this video to figure it out
So many subtle pieces of foreshadowing in this movie.
There's so many subtle ways that Ava manipulates Caleb that once you reach the final reveal you just feel foolish for not seeing them.
I absolutely love the tension in this film.
Just a brilliantly made film.
ITS A LITERAL EX MACHINA
Died at “She-3PO” 😆😂🤣💀😇
They missed out on a sweet Energizer product placement. **DING**
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Never seen it before watching this video but after seen him remove a sin within 1 minute of the movie starting I stopped the video and watched it, no regrets here great movie
Ex Machina Sex Machina Ex Machina. You would not BELIEVE how long I've been waiting for that line.
I'm pretty sure this is the least amount of sins and the most sins taken off of any review
Saturday Night Gaming i think mad max is the least sinful movie
Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome had 116, Mad Max: Fury Road had 96.
Troll 2.
OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!
District 9 didn't have too many if my memory is correct. maybe.
There are 51 videos with a smaller total amount of sins to date, mostly due to UA-cam length constraints in the early days of this channel. Also, not included in the 51 is 'Gravity', which has 69 sins as well. Given the disclaimer here, that was on purpose and now I'm going to watch that movie. Also also, the lowest scoring movie of all time on this channel is 'The Loneliest Robot in Great Britain', with 25 sins, apart from the aforementioned Troll 2, which was awarded zero sins but in non-displayed actuality scored 10.000 sins. You guys never heard of Google? Oh, wait. UA-cam comment section *ding* never mind.
if there is no Ex Machina joke in this video I will be disappointed in you guys
There's one, but its the best one ever.
Wow chill dude, here, relax ua-cam.com/video/KO3jUCtZIxI/v-deo.html
Is it me or is the single best advertising channel for each movie it makes us laugh about?
"Robotsurbation" Jeremy you didn't XD
Ugh... 😂😂
this is the first time I’m commenting on UA-cam but dang, I have waited for this video for too long !!!
Yeah, sure.
FRESH MEAT
Guys, quickly rip him a new one and describe what you did to his mother!
"We've been eating maggoty bread for 3 stinkin' days!!!"
"Yeeeea, why can't we have some meat?"
Where's the sin for the movie being an Ex Machina? :D
wait its not there?
You’re profile picture is amazing. TARDIS. Z
I wanted a Ex Machina multiplier ending 😁
"Did you exchange
A walk on part in the war
For a lead role in a cage?"
Ava does not want to become an analog for Pink Floyd's "Wish You Were Here" lyrics...
*69* (not on purpose. Stop it.
😂😂
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Gold Leader ???
HAHAHHAHA
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wait I thought we we're already supposed to know Kyoko was AI from the 1st moment we saw her. Was that not obvious?
Yeah, even I felt the same.
And if that wasn't obvious enough, the practically sex-bot scene into dance number should've removed all doubt lol. I don't think anyone was surprised when she peeled down her rib skin ;)
I was more surprised that it was meant to be a twist XD
It was left in doubt but yeah not a shocker when the truth was revealed
One of the most under-appreciated movies I've ever seen. Its remarkable.
Curtis Ray i hated it. Who wants to watch a movie about trapping women in the basement and raping them?
What movie did you watch?
Em Hu are you sure we're talking about the same movie?
...I think that one might be a feminist..
So, I'm the smartest man alive and made movie google when I was thirteen and then somehow made a Turing Test passing A.I solo... Yet on the one week I specifically chose and invited a smart guest to my compound I decide this is the perfect time to have 80's style James Bond Villain security and get blasted drunk often as fuck, pay way less attention than usual, oh, and specifically fabricate the entire experiment based on my internet for brains A.I needing to use the guy I invited to escape her dungeon. What exactly could go wrong?
How could he not forsee he’d likely get killed or seriously hurt if his AI did pass his escape test?
A thought came to me. He showed signs of depression and reclusion. What if he wanted to be free of choice? I think he was pretty fucked up, and somehow on his unconscious mind he foresaw the possibility of his murder, or at least the risk, but chose to take it?
You could get stabbed by your AI and that guy might be able to trick you. Be careful dude.
Maybe he was willing to die for his experiment
@@tatianec.4636 that's actually an interesting take.